The Megyn Kelly Show - November 14, 2025


Epstein Files Vote Coming, Comey and James Want Dismissal, BBC Apologizes to Trump: AM Update 11⧸14


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21 minutes

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153.86029

Word Count

3,350

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207

Misogynist Sentences

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Hate Speech Sentences

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Summary

Epstein is back in the news this week, as tens of thousands of newly released documents and emails from the disgraced financier emerge, some with reference to President Trump. This as a group of House members gain enough signatures to bypass leadership and force a vote on compelling the Department of Justice to release most of its Epstein files.


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00:00:30.000 Good morning, everyone.
00:00:33.980 I'm Megan Kelly.
00:00:34.900 It's Friday, November 14th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.
00:00:39.640 These emails prove absolutely nothing other than the fact that President Trump did nothing wrong.
00:00:45.300 The White House confronts a fresh wave of Jeffrey Epstein-related scrutiny
00:00:49.460 as the House pushes for the release of many more Epstein files.
00:00:54.140 We've been really fortunate to have Nike reach out to us and say,
00:00:57.940 we want to study transgender youth.
00:01:01.440 New questions for Nike over its involvement in a shelved study on transgender youth athletic performance.
00:01:09.320 Attorneys for Letitia James and James Comey in court attempting to get the cases against their clients thrown out.
00:01:15.400 And the BBC apologizes to President Trump, but that's all.
00:01:20.000 All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
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00:02:05.340 The Jeffrey Epstein story back in the news this week
00:02:10.540 as tens of thousands of newly released documents and emails from the disgraced financier emerge,
00:02:16.380 some with reference to President Trump and other prominent figures.
00:02:20.000 This as a group of House members gain enough signatures to bypass leadership
00:02:24.240 and force a vote on compelling the Department of Justice to release most of its Epstein files.
00:02:30.580 The House Oversight Committee on Wednesday releasing a new batch of Epstein's emails
00:02:34.560 obtained from his estate as part of its investigation into the DOJ's handling of the case.
00:02:40.880 Democrats on the committee highlighting three emails referencing President Trump.
00:02:45.680 One 2019 email from Epstein to purported journalist Michael Wolff reading,
00:02:51.720 quote, redacted Mar-a-Lago, redacted.
00:02:55.180 Trump says he asked me to resign, never a member, ever.
00:02:59.220 Of course he knew about the girls as he asked Ghislaine to stop.
00:03:03.240 What that means remains unclear.
00:03:06.240 Trump asked Ghislaine, meaning Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's associate, to stop what exactly?
00:03:12.420 Mr. Trump has previously said he kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago because Epstein recruited Mar-a-Lago
00:03:17.660 spa employee Virginia Giuffre, who would go on to become one of Epstein's victims.
00:03:23.480 Perhaps Mr. Trump told Ghislaine to stop stealing his staff from Mar-a-Lago.
00:03:28.420 We simply do not know.
00:03:30.580 But listen to the New York Times' podcast, The Daily, which, through its powers of clairvoyance,
00:03:36.980 apparently has it all figured out.
00:03:39.660 So this is very clearly Epstein telling Wolff, for reasons that are not entirely clear,
00:03:45.260 that Trump had full awareness of what Epstein was doing and the fact, apparently the fact,
00:03:50.580 that he and his associates were recruiting young women and perhaps girls from Mar-a-Lago
00:03:56.300 into their sex trafficking operation.
00:03:58.760 Whoa, whoa, what?
00:04:01.180 Where is the evidence for that?
00:04:03.740 He had full awareness of the sex trafficking operation?
00:04:07.220 Based on what, New York Times?
00:04:09.660 He knew about the girls.
00:04:11.580 That could mean anything.
00:04:12.940 Host Rachel Abrams then asks whether Epstein is denying he was ever a member of Mar-a-Lago,
00:04:19.940 a question Deputy Investigations Editor David Enrich quickly dismisses,
00:04:24.700 redirecting Abrams to his imaginary scoop.
00:04:27.800 But to me, the bigger sentence is, of course he knew about the girls.
00:04:32.180 And obviously, Trump has denied having any knowledge of the sex trafficking operation.
00:04:39.260 And so this would appear to be a refutation of that argument.
00:04:45.020 And it wasn't just the Times that ran with this invention.
00:04:48.540 Take a listen here to CNN and MSNBC.
00:04:51.580 These are damning emails where Epstein says, this is his view, what he alleges,
00:04:56.720 that Donald Trump knew of Epstein's conduct.
00:04:58.780 These new documents that we have show that Jeffrey Epstein was talking about President
00:05:02.820 Trump multiple times in emails.
00:05:04.700 Of course, we've long known that they were incredibly close friends,
00:05:07.040 but Trump had denied he was in the files.
00:05:08.720 Donald Trump has obviously been living all year in fear of release of the Jeffrey Epstein files.
00:05:14.800 And tonight, that fear has to be more intense than ever.
00:05:17.520 There was also an email dated April 2nd, 2011, in which Epstein tells Maxwell that, quote,
00:05:24.220 that dog that hasn't barked yet is Trump.
00:05:27.440 Victim's name, Redacted, spent hours at my house with him.
00:05:31.480 He has never once been mentioned.
00:05:33.320 Democrats redacting the name of the alleged victim here purportedly to protect her identity
00:05:39.020 as a sex trafficking victim.
00:05:41.180 Except the so-called victim is, once again, Virginia Giuffre, which we know because Republicans
00:05:47.480 released the unredacted document right after the Democrats released the redacted one.
00:05:52.880 Why would the Times continue protecting Giuffre's identity here when Virginia Giuffre, who died
00:05:59.780 in April, had publicly outed herself as an Epstein victim long ago?
00:06:05.020 A news organization has no ethical duty to redact the name of an alleged victim who has
00:06:09.620 already gone public with her allegations, something the Times is well aware of because elsewhere,
00:06:15.320 in this very same podcast, it names Giuffre as one of Epstein's victims, just not here
00:06:21.840 when they're discussing the wonderful mystery of an unknown victim who spent hours at Epstein's
00:06:28.460 with Donald Trump.
00:06:30.180 So why would the Democrats and the Times keep Giuffre's identity redacted in this email?
00:06:37.240 Perhaps it's because naming her would have immediately blown up Epstein's story as false.
00:06:42.640 You see, Giuffre gave testimony, under oath in this case, swearing that Trump, quote,
00:06:49.460 did not partake in any sex with her, or for that matter, with any others that she knew
00:06:55.020 of connected to Epstein, none of which you would know if you only listened to The Daily,
00:07:00.640 which is why you don't.
00:07:02.320 You listen to AM Update.
00:07:03.900 Good call.
00:07:05.100 Also on Wednesday, the newly sworn in U.S. Democratic Representative Adelita Grijalva
00:07:10.040 of Arizona, becoming the crucial 218th signature on a discharge petition that would force a vote
00:07:17.020 compelling the DOJ to release the bulk of the Epstein files.
00:07:21.060 The bill, excluding classified information, information identifying victims, and child
00:07:25.940 sex abuse materials from being released.
00:07:28.440 Every Democrat signing the petition, along with four Republicans, co-sponsor Thomas Massey
00:07:33.660 of Kentucky, Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, Lauren Boebert of Colorado, and Nancy Mace of
00:07:38.760 South Carolina.
00:07:40.060 Speaker of the House Mike Johnson saying on Wednesday he plans to bring the vote to the
00:07:43.680 floor next week.
00:07:45.060 Politico reporting that Democrats believe the vote on the floor will receive overwhelming
00:07:49.880 bipartisan support.
00:07:52.100 If the bill does get passed in the House, however, it would still require approval by the Senate
00:07:57.360 and would need to be signed into law by President Donald Trump.
00:08:01.160 Per Politico, quote, Senate GOP leaders have not guaranteed that they would hold a vote in
00:08:06.100 their chamber.
00:08:07.300 President Trump railing Wednesday on Truth Social against Republicans for going along with
00:08:11.340 Democrats here, quote, the Democrats are trying to bring up the Jeffrey Epstein hoax again
00:08:15.560 because they'll do anything at all to deflect on how badly they've done on the shutdown
00:08:19.820 and so many other subjects.
00:08:22.240 Only a very bad or stupid Republican would fall into that trap.
00:08:25.900 There should be no deflections to Epstein or anything else, and any Republicans involved
00:08:30.880 should be focused only on opening up our country and fixing the massive damage caused by the
00:08:36.020 Democrats.
00:08:37.080 Political reporting White House aides are brushing off the latest round of Epstein drama, characterizing
00:08:42.540 the latest email release as nothing more than annoying, noting, quote, the Epstein discourse
00:08:47.500 has had little impact on Trump's poll numbers and appears to remain a mostly niche conversation
00:08:52.500 on the right, while the broader electorate is concerned about more
00:08:55.780 bread and butter issues like cost of living.
00:08:59.760 New details emerging about what led Nike to abandon a, quote, transgender youth athletic
00:09:05.600 study.
00:09:06.160 The story kicking off in April with a lengthy New York Times piece quoting researcher Joanna
00:09:11.860 Harper, who is a man pretending to be a woman, as an expert on transgender athletes in sport.
00:09:17.820 The article describing Harper as leading, quote, an ambitious study of trans adolescents that
00:09:23.780 measures their results on a 10-step fitness test before they start hormone therapy, and
00:09:29.220 then after they have begun to medically transition every six months for five years.
00:09:34.580 Harper telling the Times that study was being funded by Nike, that detail triggering a wave
00:09:40.080 of reporting, most prominently from right-leaning sports site OutKick, which found multiple references
00:09:45.980 linking sports medicine physician Dr. Katherine Ackerman to this same project.
00:09:51.860 In clips and presentations dating back to 2023, Dr. Ackerman describes the study, stating she was
00:09:57.720 approached by Nike to work on it.
00:09:59.880 We've been really fortunate to have Nike reach out to us and say, we want to study transgender
00:10:07.140 youth, and what can you study?
00:10:10.060 So we very quickly put a study together, looking at people who are 12 and above, going through
00:10:17.140 these gender clinics, and then putting them through exercise testing.
00:10:20.820 We're basically doing something similar to the president's physical fitness test.
00:10:24.920 We're doing the Eurofit test, testing these people that are going through this treatment.
00:10:28.800 We are not affecting their treatment.
00:10:30.500 They were already going through these clinics anyway, and we're going to check DEXA and
00:10:34.820 labs and do these exercise outcomes to see how they compare to cis adolescents, because
00:10:41.300 that is the million-dollar question.
00:10:43.080 I think if we start people at a younger age with treatment, we don't know how much of an
00:10:48.560 effect that's going to have on performance compared to when we hear things in the news about
00:10:52.940 someone who transitions at the age of 35.
00:10:55.700 So stay tuned.
00:10:56.860 OutKick's reporting sparking immediate public backlash against Nike.
00:11:02.020 Vice President J.D.
00:11:03.020 Vance condemning the study in April on the Clay and Buck show.
00:11:06.560 I think that so many of these companies, Nike or otherwise, they got caught up in this cultural
00:11:11.740 zeitgeist of 2020-2021.
00:11:14.940 And it's like, I don't know, maybe they just thought the progressives were going to win.
00:11:19.340 And so they decided to fund this stuff to the hilt, not realizing that the American people
00:11:23.860 would have a rebellion against the craziness.
00:11:26.060 I think that rebellion, on the trans issue in particular, I mean, think about this, giving
00:11:30.560 hormonal therapies to 12-year-old kids, causing irreversible damage to their bodies, forcing
00:11:36.660 young girls to compete against boys in sports, sometimes causing serious injury in the process.
00:11:42.080 I think this issue is such a bad loser among the American people that even some of the
00:11:48.200 true believers have dropped it as a political issue.
00:11:51.780 Within days of OutKick's reporting, a Nike executive telling the outlet on Background,
00:11:56.880 their research was, quote, never initialized.
00:11:59.560 But now, Harper is giving a different impression, suggesting to the site OutSports that public
00:12:05.740 pressure did play a role in killing the study, quote, the haters got wind of it.
00:12:10.520 This was an exciting study.
00:12:12.080 I regret that they made this decision.
00:12:13.960 I wish they hadn't pulled out.
00:12:15.700 I understand in the wake of what happened to Bud Light that Nike got nervous.
00:12:20.340 Those comments reopening questions about what exactly Nike was funding, how far the study
00:12:25.560 advanced, and whether political pressure did force the company to cave.
00:12:29.560 The brand, positioning itself as one of the most aggressively pro-LGBTQ athletic brands
00:12:35.480 in America, featuring a full page on its website called No Pride, No Sports, declaring, quote,
00:12:42.340 sport without the LGBTQIA plus community is incomplete.
00:12:47.860 It highlights a partnership with a trans-focused charity called Not A Phase and links to a page
00:12:53.640 called, quote, 10 Policies for LGBTQIA plus Inclusion in Sport.
00:12:59.560 We reached out to the terrible Nike for comment and have yet to hear back.
00:13:05.400 Coming up, former FBI Director James Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James pushed
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00:13:13.920 And the BBC apologizes to President Trump for a misleading edit in a documentary.
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00:15:03.320 appearing in an Alexandria, Virginia courtroom yesterday asking Clinton-appointed U.S.
00:15:08.520 District Judge Cameron Curry to disqualify the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of
00:15:13.360 Virginia, Lindsay Halligan, and to dismiss the cases against their clients.
00:15:18.400 At issue, whether Attorney General Pam Bondi is allowed to make multiple 120-day interim
00:15:24.220 appointments to the post of U.S. attorney.
00:15:27.860 Under federal law, if a U.S. attorney vacancy remains unfilled after the 120-day interim period,
00:15:34.300 the judges in that district are supposed to then appoint the interim U.S. attorney until
00:15:40.000 the Senate confirms an actual nominee for the position.
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00:15:48.680 seat by Eastern District of Virginia judges following the completion of his own 120-day
00:15:54.880 limit.
00:15:55.920 Siebert, resigning on September 19th of this year, reported the over-his reluctance to pursue
00:16:00.820 charges against Comey and James.
00:16:03.080 President Trump maintains he fired Siebert.
00:16:06.200 Three days later, A.G.
00:16:07.780 Bondi appointing Lindsay Halligan to replace Siebert, following public calls by President
00:16:12.440 Trump to install Halligan, his former personal attorney, in that position.
00:16:17.820 Within days of being sworn in, Halligan appearing before a grand jury to secure an indictment against
00:16:23.000 Comey on charges of obstructing Congress and making a false statement just days before the
00:16:28.380 five-year statute of limitations expired.
00:16:31.600 In October, a federal grand jury indicting James on charges of bank fraud and false statements
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00:16:42.200 Comey and James' legal teams presenting a joint argument.
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00:16:52.580 acting period had run out.
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00:16:57.480 Bondi issuing an order naming Halligan a special attorney within the DOJ, and she retroactively
00:17:04.160 dated her memo to when Halligan was sworn in, delegating to Halligan the power to conduct
00:17:10.580 and supervise prosecutions of Comey and James.
00:17:14.560 Comey's attorney, Ephraim McDowell, arguing that Halloween Day memo proves that Halligan was
00:17:20.920 not lawfully serving as U.S.
00:17:22.660 attorney when she secured the indictment on September 25th and says because the statute
00:17:28.620 of limitations has since run out, Comey cannot be re-indicted.
00:17:33.340 Letitia James' attorney, Abby Lowell, telling the court Halligan was, quote, pretending to
00:17:37.960 be a U.S. attorney when she appeared before the grand jury in September without Senate confirmation.
00:17:43.840 Lowell conceding, however, that unlike Comey, another prosecutor could still bring an indictment
00:17:48.520 against James because the statute of limitations has not yet run out.
00:17:53.600 DOJ attorney Henry Whittaker, on behalf of Halligan, arguing Comey and James are trying
00:17:58.060 to, quote, elevate what is at best a paperwork error, arguing nothing in the statute bars the
00:18:03.980 attorney general from making more than one interim appointment.
00:18:08.120 Judge Curry appearing skeptical of that argument, noting for centuries it has been judges who make
00:18:13.360 appointments after the 120-day period lapses. Judge Curry says she expects to issue a ruling
00:18:19.580 before Thanksgiving. For now, separate trials for both defendants set to begin in January.
00:18:25.760 Both Comey and James have pleaded not guilty.
00:18:29.620 One day ahead of President Trump's Friday deadline, the BBC formally apologizing for editing Mr.
00:18:36.100 Trump's January 6th, 2021 remarks at the U.S. Capitol in a grossly misleading manner.
00:18:42.640 The news outlet stopping short, however, of complying with the president's demand for
00:18:46.800 compensation. Mr. Trump sending notice to the British Broadcasting Corporation earlier this week,
00:18:52.480 threatening a $1 billion defamation lawsuit if the network did not comply with his demands.
00:18:58.180 The warning, a response to a BBC documentary titled Trump, A Second Chance, which originally aired the
00:19:04.920 week before the 2024 election. The BBC splicing two separate portions of Mr. Trump's January 6th
00:19:12.360 speech, nearly an hour apart, and omitting entirely his instruction for the crowd to march, quote,
00:19:18.780 peacefully and patriotically toward the Capitol, clearly trying to make it seem that Mr. Trump was
00:19:24.800 trying to incite a mob.
00:19:26.460 We're going to walk down to the Capitol, and I'll be there with you. And we fight. We fight like hell.
00:19:34.920 And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.
00:19:38.640 The controversy leading to the resignations of the two top BBC executives earlier this week,
00:19:44.740 the network posting in its corrections section, quote, we accept that our edit unintentionally
00:19:49.740 created the impression that we were showing a single continuous section of the speech,
00:19:54.480 and that this gave the mistaken impression that President Trump had made a direct call for violent
00:19:59.040 action. The network adding that the doc will not be re-aired on any BBC platforms. BBC Chair Samir
00:20:06.740 Shah sending a personal letter to the White House apologizing for the edit. A BBC spokesman saying,
00:20:13.000 quote, while the BBC sincerely regrets the manner in which the video clip was edited,
00:20:17.360 we strongly disagree that there is a basis for a defamation claim. The apology coming just hours
00:20:22.680 after a new report from the UK paper, The Telegraph, which broke this story, documenting a similarly
00:20:28.760 misleading edit on President Trump's January 6th speech that aired in a 2022 BBC program. Uh-oh.
00:20:37.380 A Trump legal spokesman telling The Telegraph it is, quote, now clear that the BBC engaged in a pattern
00:20:43.240 of defamation against President Trump. The BBC saying of the latest accusation, quote,
00:20:48.320 this matter has been brought to our attention, and we are now looking into it. Good luck with that.
00:20:55.300 The White House has yet to respond to the BBC's apology.
00:21:00.360 And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for the MK Show,
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