The Megyn Kelly Show - November 08, 2024


How Trump Won, with Charlie Kirk, and Part Two of Megyn's Biggest Losers of the 2024 Election | Ep. 940


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 13 minutes

Words per Minute

175.13997

Word Count

23,429

Sentence Count

1,949

Misogynist Sentences

103

Hate Speech Sentences

62


Summary

On this episode of The Megyn Kelly Show, host Meghan Kelly is joined by Charlie Kirk, founder and CEO of Turning Point USA and host of The Charlie Kirk Show on The CharlieKirk Show, to discuss the results of the mid-term elections.


Transcript

00:00:00.560 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.
00:00:12.080 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday, ending an incredible week.
00:00:18.640 Well, not incredible for some. For the far left and Hollywood types, they're still absolutely losing their minds.
00:00:24.800 They think it is a not credible week. They think it's just an awful week.
00:00:28.140 I mean, it's been very, very dramatic. Can you imagine, imagine yourself so upset about an election?
00:00:34.540 And I'm sure everybody out there has had the feeling where you're upset about an election.
00:00:37.660 And you're so upset to the point where a tear starts pouring out of your eye.
00:00:41.960 And what you do is you grab your phone.
00:00:47.440 That's what they're doing. They're screaming and crying into their phones, which is just perfectly on brand.
00:00:52.720 Total performative sadness, distress, because what they want is for you to feel sorry for them.
00:01:00.080 They don't actually just want to sit alone in their sadness, which is what a mature adult would do.
00:01:05.420 Okay. The freakouts are on full display. We're going to go through some of them because, let's face it, we've earned it.
00:01:11.200 But first, I'm going to be joined with one of the people who played a critical role in the next future president's 47th position here.
00:01:22.060 It's not an understatement to say that this man is responsible for helping the Republicans win back the White House and the U.S. Senate.
00:01:30.840 Joining me now is Charlie Kirk, founder and CEO of Turning Point USA and host of The Charlie Kirk Show.
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00:02:39.220 Charlie, congratulations.
00:02:41.940 Thank you.
00:02:42.980 Well, as Kamala Harris would say, we did it, Joe, but we did it, Megan.
00:02:47.980 And your speech was awesome, by the way.
00:02:51.960 Thank you for your support and how amazing that was.
00:02:54.780 I really believe that moved votes and not to mention just your podcast here.
00:03:00.400 I think it held the line with sane women in this country and gave them an understanding
00:03:05.220 of the stakes and gave them an understanding of really what we are up against.
00:03:09.580 And so you deserve a lot of credit, too, Megan, because this was really a coalition.
00:03:14.380 There's so much to unpack from this election.
00:03:17.980 Part of it is also how alternative media was able to crush the major propagandist networks.
00:03:24.500 And you look at four years ago during COVID, all of our alternative media was largely censored.
00:03:29.900 But we won this time.
00:03:31.460 Podcasts and shows like this one, Joe Rogan, my show, the All In podcast.
00:03:37.280 The left couldn't keep up with it.
00:03:38.900 And President Trump, to his great credit, built a once-in-a-lifetime unity ticket,
00:03:45.360 which I think the media completely underestimated, from Bobby Kennedy to Tulsi Gabbard.
00:03:51.260 And then finally, of course, it cannot be repeated enough.
00:03:54.900 God bless Elon Musk.
00:03:56.200 I mean, that guy put it all on the line.
00:03:58.560 I mean, it wasn't just like he wrote a check and hoped it would get better.
00:04:02.500 He lived in Pennsylvania the last 45 days of the election.
00:04:07.040 He personally would host town halls across the state of Pennsylvania.
00:04:12.300 He was giving away a million dollars a day to random citizens to help encourage citizen participation.
00:04:18.060 And so there's a lot of people that deserve credit.
00:04:20.600 We all kind of played a small role.
00:04:22.880 And that's why it feels so different than 2016.
00:04:25.880 2016 was just lightning in a bottle, took him by surprise.
00:04:29.540 It was a movement.
00:04:30.660 This was really 30 or 40 different people that went all in,
00:04:35.360 that we just called the bluff of the Democrats,
00:04:37.780 and we beat the most powerful thing ever to exist in the history of the world.
00:04:43.620 It's pretty awesome.
00:04:44.660 Praise God.
00:04:45.320 Oh, it's amazing.
00:04:46.420 And you are so generous and kind to be giving me any credit
00:04:50.420 when you truly deserve actual credit for getting Donald Trump elected.
00:04:54.300 I mean, truly, you're one of a handful of five that really made the difference.
00:04:58.380 And we need look no further than the youth vote.
00:05:00.840 That wasn't the exclusive reign of your influence.
00:05:03.760 But man, when have young people come out for the Republican?
00:05:11.040 I mean, like never.
00:05:12.680 And especially in today's day and age where he's been totally demonized
00:05:16.260 all over TikTok and the sources of information that they use.
00:05:20.940 But you reached billions.
00:05:23.980 I mean, obviously, there's not that many people voting in this election.
00:05:27.220 I mean, the number of views of your videos going out onto these college campuses,
00:05:32.320 you know, challenging them, saying, go ahead.
00:05:35.360 Like, why are you voting for her?
00:05:36.820 Let's walk through it.
00:05:37.880 That would go viral every time.
00:05:39.440 We have to look at some of them because, like I said, it's just so fun right now.
00:05:44.080 Here's one woman who was very much determined to believe that Donald Trump is a racist.
00:05:49.200 And here's Charlie dismantling her.
00:05:51.320 Sought to.
00:05:51.680 You've got to give me a good reason, at least two, why you don't like Trump.
00:05:57.220 He's racist.
00:05:59.760 Yup.
00:06:00.400 Boomy.
00:06:02.240 Can you define what does it mean to be racist?
00:06:07.940 Do you want me to look up a definition?
00:06:10.060 No, no.
00:06:10.300 I want you to.
00:06:10.900 You said he's a racist.
00:06:12.220 So you must have a definition of racism in your mind.
00:06:15.440 Tell me what that definition is.
00:06:16.880 Okay, so, I'm going to make you guys wait on this.
00:06:24.020 Oh, zero knowledge.
00:06:25.720 Guys, please don't heckle.
00:06:27.100 It's hatred towards another race, right?
00:06:30.040 So when has he ever exhibited that?
00:06:32.140 Give me clear and specific examples.
00:06:34.920 You got one?
00:06:35.420 Um, well, yeah, I heard someone say he told, uh, told.
00:06:47.820 Yes!
00:06:49.040 Okay, but let me just help you out here.
00:06:51.160 Uh-huh.
00:06:52.740 What, you think he's a racist because the media has told you he's a racist.
00:06:56.820 Because you can't give me an example off the top of your head.
00:06:59.300 And even when you phone a friend of the audience.
00:07:00.980 I'm not criticizing you.
00:07:02.220 Maybe the media is lying to you.
00:07:06.140 Wow.
00:07:07.160 Truer words were never spoken.
00:07:08.940 How many exchanges do you think you had like that on college campuses, Charlie?
00:07:11.920 Oh, I mean, we had hundreds this semester.
00:07:14.500 That particular video, by the way, received over 60 million views on TikTok alone.
00:07:19.480 Uh, 60, and that's just, and so we tallied it up.
00:07:22.280 It was, again, billions of views.
00:07:23.600 So that means that target young voters were watching our content six, seven, eight, nine,
00:07:28.120 ten times.
00:07:29.260 And so, so, Megan, we do these tours.
00:07:31.140 I visited 25 college campuses, uh, this semester, which is the most I've ever done.
00:07:36.360 And over the summer, we said, how do we make a difference?
00:07:38.760 And we were doing these videos in the spring.
00:07:40.880 And I came up with the idea.
00:07:42.040 I said, man, I think the election is going to be as hot as a pistol.
00:07:44.880 I think there's going to be a lot of interest.
00:07:46.840 Why don't we do the most tours ever?
00:07:48.360 But instead of the traditional evening events, why don't we do these kind of dialogues and
00:07:52.760 these exchanges to try to see if we can, um, show the world the contrast of ideas
00:07:58.680 and to see which ideas are better and to kind of create, um, this digital movement of people
00:08:05.780 that are want to make up their mind.
00:08:07.820 And, and Megan, it was way more successful than I could have ever imagined.
00:08:11.300 And part of it was how unscripted it was.
00:08:14.480 There was, there was no, anyone could come up at any time, a professor, a professional
00:08:19.400 debater.
00:08:20.060 You could bring notes.
00:08:21.240 You could bring 10 friends with you.
00:08:22.600 It doesn't, there's no rules, right?
00:08:23.920 And so that's very interesting to an audience, both digital and in person.
00:08:28.420 And it was so real when so much of this campaign on the Democrat side was fake and synthetic.
00:08:35.760 And so here we were with the most real thing you can do, which is set up a table and talk
00:08:41.040 to people that are 180 degrees opposed to you.
00:08:44.700 And so we started doing these events in early.
00:08:47.240 The first one we did was university, Wisconsin, Madison, and we drew 2000 people.
00:08:51.740 And I said, I've been doing this for 12 years.
00:08:54.680 Okay.
00:08:55.360 I've done more in college campuses than I think anybody in this space, not, you know,
00:08:59.460 belittling anybody, but it's been the fields of which I've been working for 12 years.
00:09:03.300 We'd be lucky to get like a hundred people and a lot of protesters, right?
00:09:07.220 We drew 2000 people in Madison as our first one in September.
00:09:10.380 And I turned to my team.
00:09:11.440 I said, is this an anomaly?
00:09:12.480 Is there something happening at Madison that I don't know?
00:09:15.140 And all of a sudden we did three or four more and it was becoming the rule.
00:09:18.800 And I said to my team, I said, guys, something is happening on these campuses and the media
00:09:24.660 was ignoring it.
00:09:25.460 In fact, we were mocked on social media by all this, the intelligency of the political
00:09:31.140 establishment, right?
00:09:32.820 And the left saying, oh, you know, the, the polls show that younger voters are going to
00:09:36.700 go for Kamala than ever before.
00:09:37.840 And I said, well, maybe, but what I'm seeing is unlike anything I've ever seen before.
00:09:42.660 And not only that, Megan, our ground game and our ground team was registering these kids
00:09:46.440 to vote.
00:09:47.000 We were getting thousands and thousands of these first time voters.
00:09:50.340 So it wasn't just like, okay, let's put on a show and we leave.
00:09:53.560 We were translating the support into votes, which is kind of the, was the operating thesis.
00:10:00.220 It was our, our, our theory of the case, if you will, as we were going into this.
00:10:04.640 And then finally, as a kicker, you know, we had Mark McKinnon go to one of our campus
00:10:09.640 stops who's a fair guy, but he's definitely not a Trumper.
00:10:13.040 And he was a Bush guy, he did the circus and I've always had respect for him.
00:10:17.880 And he, he started to see this stuff on social media and to his credit, to his credit, unlike
00:10:21.900 anybody else, he's like, I need to see this.
00:10:23.480 I don't believe, he was almost like, I don't believe it.
00:10:25.660 So he went to the university of Georgia and we drew 5,000 people, Megan, 5,000 people at
00:10:31.320 the university of Georgia.
00:10:32.200 And he went and he was like, I said that Kamala was going to win, but now I'm second guessing
00:10:37.660 myself based on what he saw.
00:10:39.260 I was like, yeah, Mark, I mean, there's something happening here.
00:10:41.940 And now the exit polls, we won the youth vote in Michigan.
00:10:45.140 We almost won it in Wisconsin.
00:10:47.500 In Pennsylvania, we don't know, but we almost flipped Center County, which is Penn State.
00:10:52.540 We got within one point of it, which usually it's a 20 point Democrat victory there.
00:10:57.140 And we went to Penn State and did a massive event.
00:10:59.560 We did five events in Penn State, by the way, this cycle for obvious reasons.
00:11:04.000 And it's tempting to say that it was a landslide, which it was.
00:11:09.080 However, let me kind of humble the audience a little bit.
00:11:12.060 Donald Trump won by less than a point in Wisconsin, about 28,000 votes.
00:11:16.940 He won by a point-ish, 1.2 in Michigan.
00:11:22.200 And then he won by one point in Pennsylvania.
00:11:25.520 And so, Megan, it is conceivable that without this record movement of youth vote, he doesn't win.
00:11:31.660 And I'm not saying that because I'm, you know, in that space.
00:11:35.940 But we're talking about a point and a half across three states.
00:11:40.080 Now, the Sun Belt states were more generous and were more decisive.
00:11:43.980 But as you know, everyone was saying, if you can't win a Rust Belt state, Kamala is president.
00:11:48.580 So you could say that the kids are all right and the kids put Donald Trump back in the White House.
00:11:54.340 It's incredible.
00:11:55.560 I mean, no one's really paid that much attention to them before.
00:11:58.460 It's one of those things where Republicans have always assumed they're not gettable.
00:12:01.700 And then along comes Charlie Kirk.
00:12:03.640 I mean, I don't mean to go totally biblical on you, but I really feel like this is destiny.
00:12:08.520 And I've been thinking about you this past week so much because I know we talked about this in 2016.
00:12:13.500 You were like Don Jr.'s assistant.
00:12:16.720 You were helping him with bags.
00:12:18.880 I was getting diet Red Bulls for, oh, no, no, sugar-free Red Bulls for Don Jr.
00:12:23.300 I was, you know, I had no Twitter followers.
00:12:25.260 We had Turning Point, but it was a small thing.
00:12:27.760 And yeah, eight years ago, I was a bag carrier.
00:12:31.520 It's incredible.
00:12:32.740 OK, so this is what made me think of you, among other things, the obvious.
00:12:36.300 I know you saw this clip.
00:12:38.240 Her disgusting, gross elitism and her complete out-of-touch nature with respect to the rest of the world.
00:12:44.780 Sunny Hostin goes on The View and decides now would be a great time to dump all over the so-called uneducated, not non-college educated, the uneducated, which is what you are in Sunny Hostin's view, including you, Charlie Kirk, because she's conflating, right, people who didn't go to college with people who are uneducated.
00:13:07.240 We've got to look at the clip, and then I need your reaction.
00:13:10.740 What we did not have is white women who voted about 52%, right, for Donald Trump.
00:13:17.260 Uneducated white women is my understanding.
00:13:19.600 You have Latino men actually voting more for him.
00:13:23.080 And you have, and black men was not the story, were not the story here, because they voted almost 80% for the vice president.
00:13:30.140 So why do you think that uneducated white women voted against their reproductive health freedoms?
00:13:35.040 And why do you think Latino men voted in favor of someone that's going to deport, says he's going to deport the majority of his community?
00:13:43.080 I don't think white women like being called uneducated white women.
00:13:45.460 I think the economy matters, national security matters.
00:13:47.580 That's what the poll said.
00:13:47.940 But when you put people in these boxes, I think that's a takeaway from this, right?
00:13:53.080 Okay.
00:13:54.040 It's amazing.
00:13:55.260 She's specifically there referring to the women.
00:13:57.060 But of course, it's the non-college educated men as well who voted for Donald Trump.
00:14:00.600 And the nerve of this woman to whom the country has given so much to try to dump on people who didn't go to college.
00:14:07.400 Look at you.
00:14:08.100 Look at your achievements.
00:14:09.260 How do you like the so-called uneducated now, Sonny?
00:14:13.240 Yeah.
00:14:13.880 And again, by the way, rarely do you get the answer to a question in the question.
00:14:19.620 And her whole question is exactly why there was a rebellion against them.
00:14:24.300 Listen, just because you didn't go to college doesn't mean you're stupid.
00:14:28.560 And it doesn't mean that you don't have wisdom.
00:14:30.480 I always differentiate between knowledge and wisdom.
00:14:33.300 You can go to college and get a bunch of irrelevant facts about how men can allegedly give birth or whatever they teach.
00:14:40.780 I mean, it's about North African lesbian poetry.
00:14:44.080 OK, that's fine, I guess.
00:14:46.580 But I said this to our team.
00:14:50.480 I said working people, the muscular class, including working women in the sense of waitresses and women that work for Amazon.
00:15:00.180 And there's a lot of women delivery drivers.
00:15:03.020 They are so in favor of Trump and they don't want to be called stupid or uneducated.
00:15:08.620 And I've said this for so long and it's finally manifested, which is that it is laced into how we do our public opinion polling.
00:15:17.540 And she played into it perfectly because I've said this for a decade.
00:15:21.440 And finally, I have a piece of evidence to show this more than anything else, that we look at how we elect our leaders in two buckets, stupid and smart.
00:15:30.460 And the stupid people are the people that don't have a certificate from Yale and the smart people are two hundred thousand dollars in debt because they went to Drake.
00:15:40.440 And so the the breakdown, though, is that Donald Trump, which, by the way, is just smart politics because there's more people that didn't go to college than did go to college.
00:15:51.280 And I know that's really hard for the Democrats to realize because everyone in their circle went to college.
00:15:56.260 But the majority of the country actually does not have a four year college diploma.
00:16:01.240 The majority of the country are people that have two year technical degrees or community college or they just went into the workforce right out of high school.
00:16:08.200 And so Donald Trump gave these people a voice because they're tired of being told that they're stupid just because they didn't go into debt to go study that something that doesn't matter to find jobs that don't exist.
00:16:20.280 And these people, by the way, Megan, both men and women, we call them, as I said, the muscular class.
00:16:27.020 They are the ones that kept the economy alive to great personal risk for themselves and their family during covid.
00:16:33.840 They're the ones that delivered you your Uber Eats for three months on straight while you in the laptop class were able to keep on doing your job by opening your laptop in the comfort of your home while the Amazon trucks were still delivered.
00:16:47.360 And the supply chain went uninterrupted.
00:16:50.540 Those people have felt belittled.
00:16:53.680 They have felt talked down to.
00:16:55.580 And Donald Trump communicated with them better than any candidate since Ronald Reagan in 1988.
00:17:00.620 And the final point I'll say is this, is, Sonny, do you guys thought that abortion was going to be this like quasi zealot religious issue?
00:17:12.440 I'm pro-life.
00:17:13.360 If people in the audience aren't, that's fine.
00:17:15.260 What I'm saying, though, what gives me promise, and I think we can all agree on this, is that there are other issues that should animate and drive our politics other than this very divisive one.
00:17:27.040 And I was really encouraged by that, Megan, very encouraged because the media was forcing this as an up or down vote on a referendum on a highly complicated, very emotional, very personal issue.
00:17:41.180 And it turned out the American people were like, yeah, actually, these other six things matter more and good for them.
00:17:47.520 By the way, Sonny Hostin, I think, went to Notre Dame, her son's at Harvard, her daughter's at Cornell, she's married to the Ivy League, and that's why she looks down on everyone else as a bunch of stupid losers who didn't vote the right way because they're not as smart as she is.
00:18:07.460 I spent many years across from Sonny Hostin on the set of Bill O'Reilly.
00:18:12.280 She is not as smart as she thinks she is.
00:18:14.700 In fact, I defy you to show me one debate we ever had that she won.
00:18:18.220 There isn't one.
00:18:20.100 So I'm not done with the Charlie Kirk homage.
00:18:24.320 Oh, boy.
00:18:24.540 We put together a little bit of you on your college tour just so the audience can see some of the hard work you were doing.
00:18:30.780 Let's play Sop 1.
00:18:32.860 Can you tell me her greatest accomplishment?
00:18:34.900 No, I can't.
00:18:35.640 Can you tell me a single accomplishment?
00:18:38.640 I cannot.
00:18:39.660 I want to leave.
00:18:44.320 What is Kamala Harris' greatest accomplishment?
00:18:51.640 The honk-wise.
00:18:53.760 Could you please explain why under a Trump presidency it would be more beneficial to me than a Harris presidency?
00:18:59.180 I want to try to win you over as a liberal for Donald Trump.
00:19:01.720 Why should I vote for Trump?
00:19:04.000 There's no guesswork in this election.
00:19:05.640 We know the type of president that Trump was and that he will be.
00:19:08.320 There are three things I want you to think about when voting for Trump.
00:19:11.880 Homeownership, border, war.
00:19:13.780 Three objective things.
00:19:15.340 When I decide, just in case, can I have a hat?
00:19:18.160 You can have a hat.
00:19:19.200 So which way are you leaning?
00:19:20.660 Can I get a hat?
00:19:22.260 That's a good answer.
00:19:23.320 How are you leaning this election?
00:19:26.180 Well, after what you said, Trump.
00:19:28.020 Let's go.
00:19:28.760 All right.
00:19:32.380 And two points on that, Charlie.
00:19:33.580 So we had a bunch of kids from my son's high school here with me in studio on election night.
00:19:39.240 And, you know, maybe like whatever, 15 of them.
00:19:41.560 And they were all Trump supporters.
00:19:44.180 It was where there was no screening.
00:19:45.680 Like we're only taking the Trump supporters.
00:19:47.720 But that just happened to be how it worked out.
00:19:49.640 And that third point, war, was a big one for all of them.
00:19:54.620 They're actually really worried about this neocon strain in the Democrat Party because they're the ones who are going to have to go fight it.
00:20:04.460 And so you were tapping into exactly the right thing.
00:20:06.700 And then one other cue point.
00:20:08.300 My kids are in school all day and therefore do not listen to my show every day.
00:20:12.640 They listen to it here and there.
00:20:13.740 And they get clips on social media.
00:20:16.100 And we were talking this week about who I had coming on today.
00:20:18.860 And I told him, Charlie Kirk.
00:20:20.820 And my son and my daughter, she's 13, he's 15, go, you know, Charlie Kirk?
00:20:27.220 I'm like, yes, I know Charlie Kirk.
00:20:29.960 Yes.
00:20:30.720 Could we meet Charlie Kirk?
00:20:32.140 I'm like, I think I could arrange it at some point.
00:20:33.600 But that's how young, you're like a 13-year-old girl.
00:20:37.060 She's seen your clips.
00:20:37.980 She's been influenced by you.
00:20:39.460 They watched you on that show.
00:20:40.880 Where do they surround you when you debate all the people?
00:20:43.820 Jubilee.
00:20:44.420 They watched you there.
00:20:45.160 That was something.
00:20:45.620 I mean, you're making a huge difference, not just in today's voters, but in the next up-and-coming ones who are going to be voting four years from now, Charlie.
00:20:54.200 It's huge.
00:20:55.200 I do feel there's something divine going on.
00:20:57.420 You were chosen for some reason.
00:20:59.060 Well, I'm humbled.
00:21:00.680 And I said this.
00:21:01.440 Well, thank you, Megan.
00:21:02.160 And I'd love to meet your kids.
00:21:03.380 And I just, I said this on election night, God gave us grace as a nation.
00:21:09.760 I'm humbled by it.
00:21:11.500 I say praise God.
00:21:13.280 I'm just a small part.
00:21:14.660 And he used what we were doing.
00:21:16.360 I mean this.
00:21:17.700 I had zero expectation that what we were going to do was actually going to move the dial this much.
00:21:24.180 We did it out of obedience.
00:21:25.500 We did it out of, hey, let's play the role.
00:21:28.200 You know what it's like on a campaign, right, Megan?
00:21:30.240 Oh, if we can move, you know, a couple hundred people and do your part and it all adds up.
00:21:35.180 I had no idea that this thing was going to set off the way it did.
00:21:40.260 And I mean, we look at, we look at these youth vote numbers.
00:21:44.840 It's not normal.
00:21:45.860 It's, it's not, it's, it's the best performance by a Republican since 1988.
00:21:51.940 And allow me to say one other thing about the youth vote that I think you'll really appreciate,
00:21:55.620 Megan, which is the Democrats underestimated how much pent up rebellion energy was there
00:22:02.180 because of how they were treated and lied to during COVID and the political correct regime
00:22:08.640 that coupled with COVID.
00:22:10.640 So they lost proms, graduations.
00:22:13.380 They had to wear masks.
00:22:14.540 They were on Zoom class.
00:22:16.300 And then during it, they were propagandized with the most ferocious, aggressive, misleading
00:22:22.080 left-wing propaganda on race, on sexuality, on gender, on America that we've ever seen.
00:22:29.620 And so now four years later, this Gen Z was like, you know what?
00:22:34.440 You guys in charge, the same people that were trying to lock up Trump, you guys materially
00:22:40.700 messed up my life and I don't like you.
00:22:43.180 And I think the Democrats misread the vibe, you know, for all about, you know, they're
00:22:49.440 about the vibe.
00:22:50.440 They misread it.
00:22:51.840 And we happened to read the room.
00:22:54.980 We saw it.
00:22:55.660 And again, these kids were disproportionately punished for doing nothing wrong during COVID
00:23:03.260 for extended periods of time.
00:23:05.920 And the Democrats just shrugged their shoulders.
00:23:08.140 Oh, kids will get over it.
00:23:09.280 Think about it, Megan.
00:23:10.020 You know, you remember probably years 13 through 17 more than years, you know, 23 through 27.
00:23:16.620 Those are your formative years.
00:23:18.120 And they were they were robbed by these kids from these kids.
00:23:21.760 And so we played into that in the best possible way.
00:23:25.700 And Donald Trump became this ascendant symbol of we're going to take back the country so
00:23:32.860 that you can have a better future.
00:23:34.700 And as I said, at almost every campus stop, you guys represent the first generation since
00:23:39.720 George Washington to have it worse off than your parents.
00:23:42.760 It is a breakdown of the social contract.
00:23:45.000 You are the most depressed, anxious, suicidal, drug addicted, psychiatric drug addicted,
00:23:52.740 alcohol addicted generation in history.
00:23:55.220 You guys deserve better.
00:23:56.900 We do politics basically for one reason, to leave a better future for our kids.
00:24:01.600 I mean, all the other stuff is fine, but that's really why we do this, right?
00:24:04.620 So that you can keep this beautiful experiment going.
00:24:07.020 And we failed in that.
00:24:08.660 And this next generation had a say to try to make sure that they could also have access
00:24:13.040 to the American dream like their parents.
00:24:14.620 And they spoke decisively.
00:24:16.240 And every Democrat right now is scratching their head, going through precinct by precinct,
00:24:21.420 wondering why they're safe spots of college campuses like Dane County, Wisconsin, like
00:24:27.120 Center County, Pennsylvania, like Arizona State, like University of Arizona in Tucson, why
00:24:32.740 they move 20 to 25 points in Donald Trump's direction.
00:24:37.720 It's amazing.
00:24:38.800 Just the right combination of recognizing what the issues were as created by the Democrats and
00:24:43.680 then getting in there and doing the work to exploit them, to reach out to these kids,
00:24:47.520 to say, let me, let me give you the proper framework for it.
00:24:50.980 You know, I mean, I feel like that's half of what I do on this show.
00:24:53.780 Let me give you the framework for what's being done to you right now, because it, they just
00:24:58.620 take out their fire hose and they, they train it on you.
00:25:01.860 And most people are just like on their heels, getting completely pummeled by the fire hose
00:25:06.080 of information about what terrible people they are and why they have to believe boys can
00:25:10.500 become girls or whatever your issue is.
00:25:12.700 And it does help to have somebody like you go on and say, let me put in perspective what
00:25:18.120 you're feeling, like the stuff about the anxiety.
00:25:20.080 That's not normal.
00:25:21.000 You don't have to live like this.
00:25:22.380 This has been done to you.
00:25:24.980 Um, I do want to show you something that's happening on college campuses, a few things,
00:25:29.820 but before I move on to that, this is worth playing at the moment Trump announced or that
00:25:36.820 it was announced that Trump won, sought three and Charlie's reaction.
00:25:43.180 Let's go.
00:25:44.840 There it is.
00:25:45.480 Everybody should remember this moment.
00:25:52.120 Look, I'm going to, I'm going to echo Charlie from earlier.
00:25:54.800 Remember where you were when this happened.
00:25:57.460 Remember where you were when you realized that the unit party and all of these, you know,
00:26:02.760 just the establishment, you said it's time to actually participate and look what you guys
00:26:08.140 have done.
00:26:09.260 And if anyone deserves to get tears in his eyes, it's Charlie.
00:26:13.820 I think we all agree.
00:26:14.760 I think Erica was chopping some onions or something in the, uh, in the break room.
00:26:18.140 No one has worked harder than Charlie for this.
00:26:20.020 We got to, we got to hear some words here from you, Charlie.
00:26:22.800 You put all this together, my man.
00:26:24.180 Let's hear it.
00:26:24.920 I am just humbled by God.
00:26:28.020 It's all God.
00:26:30.020 It's all God.
00:26:32.380 Oh, that is emotional to watch.
00:26:34.900 I share your feeling, Charlie.
00:26:37.160 I felt it that night too.
00:26:38.300 I just, um, I was humbled and blown away because I, throughout this entire thing, I'm getting
00:26:46.240 emotional thinking about it.
00:26:47.720 Um, and I'm sure you agree, Megan.
00:26:49.460 I said, there's no way they're going to, they're going to let us do this.
00:26:52.080 That something's going to happen.
00:26:53.520 Right.
00:26:53.960 And again, call it paranoia, call it, um, just trying to be ahead of the curve.
00:26:59.520 And I'm sitting in the seat right here where I saw Trump got shot and like, they tried
00:27:06.980 to kill him and indict him.
00:27:08.100 And it's like at every turn, I'm like, here we go.
00:27:10.300 The regime is striking back.
00:27:11.700 Right.
00:27:12.620 And I just, you, you don't think you're actually going to get there because we've been programmed
00:27:18.380 to just say that like powerful people get what they want.
00:27:21.420 Right.
00:27:22.960 And it's, it, yeah, he was one millimeter from this whole country, just going into bedlam
00:27:28.740 and what if one of these trials would have went differently.
00:27:31.500 Right.
00:27:31.940 What if Jack Smith would have rushed his cases and this, I mean like a million different
00:27:36.720 things.
00:27:37.080 Right.
00:27:38.020 And there you go.
00:27:39.220 And you hear the words that Donald Trump is president elect.
00:27:42.220 I just, um, again, glory be to God is all I can say, because I, I believe there's a divine
00:27:47.340 element.
00:27:48.140 I asked the question, is God done with this land?
00:27:51.640 I don't think it was, he is.
00:27:53.300 I think that, um, the evil that would seem to have covered of this butchery.
00:27:58.680 We have children is going to come to an end.
00:28:00.440 This evil of allowing men and female sports is going to come to an end.
00:28:04.280 And, um, I, we were, we were blessed to play a small role.
00:28:09.560 I, in that moment, I had two of those moments like you on election night where they called
00:28:14.440 it for him.
00:28:14.900 And these boys from the high school were on the other side of the camera for me.
00:28:19.300 And even more than my own reaction was their reaction that really got me where they were
00:28:24.300 all, they, some of them did what you did, like face into the hands.
00:28:28.680 Some of them did arms up, you know, it was like, it was like this with the hands behind
00:28:34.120 the head.
00:28:34.380 Like they were so relieved.
00:28:36.800 They were, you could feel the palpable relief and just exaltation, just that they, that they
00:28:44.380 weren't going to have to go on in the way that they've been going.
00:28:46.760 And we, as you know, are at a non-woke school.
00:28:49.080 That is why we're there.
00:28:50.420 I mean, we left, we fled a woke school and found the right school for us.
00:28:54.080 So they're not getting it over the head, but they get it from society.
00:28:56.840 And even if you find a good school for your kids, they get it from society.
00:28:59.340 They get it from TV.
00:29:00.060 They get it from the movies they watch.
00:29:01.760 They now get it from sports.
00:29:03.060 You cannot avoid the negative messages that are coming down to especially young men.
00:29:07.440 And they felt it acutely.
00:29:08.960 And the second moment, Charlie, was something you hit on in your answer, which was that night
00:29:14.960 it hit that the DOJ was dropping its appeal in Mar-a-Lago case against Trump and dropping
00:29:22.600 its J-6 case against Trump because of their policy not to prosecute a sitting president.
00:29:26.440 And I was sitting on here with the National Review guys and with Maureen Callahan, all
00:29:29.340 of whom I love.
00:29:30.280 And for me, you know, having done so much on the lawfare, I almost couldn't catch my breath.
00:29:34.940 It was like, I can't even talk.
00:29:36.160 I felt like you felt in that clip.
00:29:37.320 Like, I can't talk.
00:29:38.780 I need just a minute.
00:29:40.880 Like, who could put into perspective the Herculean task it was for Trump to just get through
00:29:49.160 that, those four cases, not to mention the civil, I mean, total and utter victory over
00:29:57.980 very evil people.
00:30:00.620 And I just, I want to say, when I saw this firsthand, I hope your audience understands
00:30:04.840 that every one of these charges, he had to have like a two-hour meeting with lawyers about
00:30:09.240 details about it, right?
00:30:10.500 You know how it is, Megan, right?
00:30:11.640 The strain that it took on him physically and mentally, where lawyers would come in with
00:30:18.720 binders of stuff, well, the government's accusing you of this, this, this.
00:30:21.700 And then after that, Megan, he has to go on a plane and go give three speeches in Iowa,
00:30:26.100 right?
00:30:26.560 He's got to get on a plane and go give, you know, a town hall and a podcast.
00:30:30.040 And that, I think, was one of the reasons they did it, because they said, if nothing else,
00:30:34.340 we'll be able to weigh this man down, right?
00:30:36.440 We'll be able to slow him down and mess him up.
00:30:40.700 And we might be, and he was in a, he was in a courtroom back in May on a total Soviet
00:30:47.040 show trial.
00:30:47.820 I want your audience to just appreciate that.
00:30:50.100 I know they locked up a candidate with the inability to campaign for weeks.
00:30:54.960 And then Fannie Willis did what she did.
00:30:57.400 And.
00:30:57.780 Oh, and one other word on that.
00:30:59.180 One other word on the New York trial.
00:31:00.360 Let's not forget.
00:31:01.280 This is another piece of it.
00:31:03.000 They humiliated him.
00:31:04.840 They, that judge worked together with the prosecution to let in as many embarrassing
00:31:11.200 details as Stormy Daniels could spew in her moments on the stand to humiliate him, not
00:31:18.740 to mention the mugshot down in Atlanta.
00:31:21.720 They did their level best to try to make a fool out of him.
00:31:25.660 I mean, all of it was, it was just so infuriating.
00:31:30.160 There's still, I mean, you got the New York judge who's still like, oh, he could be sentenced
00:31:33.960 to go to jail.
00:31:34.380 Okay.
00:31:34.940 That's happening.
00:31:35.560 I think November 26th, but yeah, it was just a complete route.
00:31:39.240 Charlie, just a complete route by there's something almost not, I know not, but like almost super
00:31:45.120 human in the way Trump handled all of it.
00:31:48.020 I, again, I, I, I cringe when some people say things a little more extreme than that,
00:31:54.320 but I do believe that there was a divine element of the hand of God on him.
00:31:58.360 And look, I have a lot of energy.
00:32:00.780 I'm on like four hours of sleep right now.
00:32:02.940 I I've traveled with him.
00:32:04.200 I mean, I'm taught, this guy gets three hours of sleep for, and he gets up with tons of life
00:32:09.400 force and energy.
00:32:11.140 He'll take, by the way, just so everyone understands before a MAGA rally, he takes 120 pictures.
00:32:17.520 He will do a round table.
00:32:19.340 He will speak for 40 minutes with friends.
00:32:22.040 And then he goes and gives a two hour speech and then he goes off and then holds court on
00:32:26.200 the plane.
00:32:26.960 As one of my friends on the campaign, Taylor would say, I'd joke around Taylor Bundowich,
00:32:30.960 great guy.
00:32:31.660 And I said, Hey Taylor, um, he's really sweet.
00:32:34.620 I joked around because I would go to some of these events and we hosted two of them for
00:32:37.960 Trump a week out.
00:32:38.880 And I said, Hey, you're getting some sleep on the plane.
00:32:40.560 He said, Charlie, it's Trump force one.
00:32:44.540 I'm not, no one's sleeping on the plane.
00:32:46.580 I was like, Oh yeah, sleep.
00:32:47.820 No, he said, he said, literally when Trump is done, he's going, he says, I want the
00:32:51.700 latest polling.
00:32:52.380 How are we doing?
00:32:53.040 How are we raising money?
00:32:54.120 Get me on the phone with this guy.
00:32:55.320 How's the center to doing?
00:32:56.240 How's Ted Cruz doing?
00:32:57.420 Should we do a truth?
00:32:58.120 So, I mean, it, I, everybody, he ended his campaign.
00:33:02.480 He got wheels down at 5.
00:33:04.380 AM in Palm beach on election day, 5.
00:33:07.380 AM.
00:33:07.900 And on the flight down from grand Rapids to Palm beach, he's like, okay, uh, is anyone waiting
00:33:13.080 in the polls in line?
00:33:13.940 How are we doing?
00:33:14.520 How's the election integrity effort?
00:33:16.160 I mean, they have not slept for three straight days and Trump is like holding a session at
00:33:21.600 40,000 feet.
00:33:22.880 I mean, you would think that finally be like, okay.
00:33:25.060 And, uh, I've never seen any, I've never seen anything like it.
00:33:28.320 No, what did we do?
00:33:29.520 We, we went and we met him in Pittsburgh.
00:33:30.980 I brought the whole family.
00:33:32.200 We, that was Monday night.
00:33:33.460 We got home by midnight, 12 after midnight or 15 minutes after went to sleep.
00:33:38.120 We were exhausted the next day, the next morning.
00:33:40.000 My kids were like, what do you think Trump's doing?
00:33:42.100 And I was like, they were like, do you think he's sleeping?
00:33:44.000 I said, absolutely not.
00:33:45.900 He's definitely not sleeping.
00:33:46.920 He's awake.
00:33:47.720 And then, you know, Trump, of course, did it again.
00:33:50.660 And he had rally after rally and stayed up late.
00:33:52.580 I don't know how he does it.
00:33:54.160 I do want to show you this, having brought up the New York trial and how jubilant you
00:33:59.320 are feeling.
00:33:59.760 And so am I, not everyone feels that way.
00:34:01.960 I give you Michael Cohen who held a little live stream on Tik TOK and he's enabled it
00:34:08.060 in such a way that allows the people watching it to put like graphics on the screen and,
00:34:15.060 and then he charges them for it.
00:34:16.780 So I guess this is how he makes money now.
00:34:18.260 And it, no, it was wonderful.
00:34:21.020 You are, if you're listening to this right now, my friends, you've got to go to youtube.com,
00:34:25.020 go to about 35 after the hour and look at this video.
00:34:29.720 Watch this.
00:34:30.300 No problem.
00:34:32.360 Wow.
00:34:33.140 Genius.
00:34:33.700 You are.
00:34:34.680 Can we stop with the turkey?
00:34:36.420 I appreciate it.
00:34:37.480 I don't like the stupid turkeys.
00:34:39.200 All right.
00:34:39.880 Let's just, let's just knock that stupid shit off, please.
00:34:42.980 All right.
00:34:45.000 I did.
00:34:45.780 I said I was leaving.
00:34:47.240 And then the following day, get that through your dumb heads.
00:34:50.620 The following day, I turned around and I said that there's no chance in the world that
00:34:56.540 I'm leaving my country.
00:34:57.640 Thank you very much.
00:34:59.680 All right.
00:35:01.200 I'm not leaving anywhere.
00:35:02.420 You leave.
00:35:03.740 This is my country.
00:35:07.020 And I have every right, every single right within which to turn around when we stop so
00:35:12.520 we can.
00:35:14.220 All right.
00:35:14.880 Two seconds.
00:35:15.440 I'm going to end up blocking this idiot.
00:35:23.700 Charlie.
00:35:26.240 God bless the people.
00:35:28.940 This is good.
00:35:29.520 By the way, that's probably some 19-year-old on TikTok.
00:35:32.520 God bless him.
00:35:33.320 Yes.
00:35:33.660 That is just trolling Michael.
00:35:35.240 I love it.
00:35:35.540 He's part of the team.
00:35:36.940 I love it.
00:35:38.000 Oh, that's as good as it gets.
00:35:39.840 So that's Michael Cohen.
00:35:40.920 But we were talking about the universities.
00:35:42.380 That's incredible.
00:35:43.040 This is turkey.
00:35:43.900 For the listening audience, it's like a turkey.
00:35:45.480 It's like a cooked turkey, butter-based, cooked, nice brown turkey with a big hole in the middle
00:35:50.120 of it.
00:35:50.360 It's like its little legs pointing down its body all around his head.
00:35:53.340 Okay.
00:35:54.400 We're talking about universities and what these kids have been dealing with, the nonsense
00:35:59.560 that goes on on these campuses.
00:36:00.700 And there's a great example of it today.
00:36:02.300 There is someone at the University of Oregon.
00:36:06.220 He is the assistant director for fraternity and sorority life.
00:36:10.260 And he's not taking Trump's victory very well.
00:36:13.980 Look at SOP 32.
00:36:14.940 I'm done crying.
00:36:18.060 My sadness is over.
00:36:19.620 My anger has set in.
00:36:21.960 I am a very petty person.
00:36:24.300 And I am very proud of that.
00:36:26.800 Love it about myself, actually.
00:36:28.900 And so I say this in the most disrespectful way possible.
00:36:33.300 I don't care if you are my family.
00:36:35.560 I don't care if you are my friend.
00:36:37.640 I don't care if we've been friends our entire lives.
00:36:40.200 You can literally go fuck yourself if you voted for Donald Trump.
00:36:45.580 If you are so sad about your groceries being expensive, get a better fucking paying job.
00:36:52.900 Do better in life.
00:36:54.140 Get a fucking education.
00:36:55.820 Do something.
00:36:57.100 Because you are fucking stupid.
00:36:59.520 And I hope you go jump off of a fucking bridge.
00:37:05.380 So the university responded after it hit the Daily Mail.
00:37:10.200 That this is a post made on his own time, which is well within his rights.
00:37:16.800 To suggest that all of his students should go kill themselves.
00:37:19.960 Just fine.
00:37:20.740 Didn't cross any lines.
00:37:22.040 Wait just a few hours until the blowback hits.
00:37:24.880 And now there is an update.
00:37:26.860 The school has placed him on administrative leave and opened an investigation into the matter.
00:37:31.260 As a public university, we take our duty seriously to provide an environment that welcomes diversity of thought and respect in alignment with our educational mission, said the spokesperson.
00:37:41.200 Um, I don't want to say too much, but we're going to have a lot of fun at the Department of Education.
00:37:45.820 We're going to have a lot of fun.
00:37:46.700 Oh, can I tell you something?
00:37:48.820 Like, I've had quite a few people contact me about that particular post.
00:37:52.440 Like, I'm sure I have one hundredth of what you're getting, but people are contacting me about cabinet posts.
00:37:58.360 I'm like, I got nothing.
00:38:00.020 I mean, yeah, uh, I'm actually, uh, after this conversation heading to Mar-a-Lago for a week, uh, and we have a lot to sift through.
00:38:08.100 And if I could be helpful, I have asked, uh, I want to be actively involved in all things education, as you can imagine.
00:38:13.980 Um, and, uh, priority, like, number numero uno is, uh, we're getting all that Title IX stuff fixed, and we're getting that all cleaned up.
00:38:22.320 Yes.
00:38:22.880 Um, yes.
00:38:23.580 We're, we're, we're going to get it, we're getting it done.
00:38:25.980 Um, and there's a lot more there, by the way.
00:38:28.520 There's a lot of DEI, CRT, um, garbage that is coming to the Department of Education.
00:38:34.820 Also, we need to say, by the way, this is very important.
00:38:38.720 President, I will push for President Trump and try to persuade him.
00:38:42.000 Uh, we're going to end all affirmative action and hiring practices, is my hope, uh, in federal government hiring.
00:38:47.140 We're going to make it merit-based, uh, and these colleges are still doing affirmative action against the Supreme Court.
00:38:52.460 So, I, I hope the Department of Education does some investigations into that.
00:38:56.680 Um, and look, the way it needs to work from this point forward, in my personal and humble opinion, again, I'm not in charge.
00:39:01.880 I'm just going to try to convince people of that and use, use whatever platform I have, is that federal funding should not continue to schools if you have lunatics like this.
00:39:10.020 Done.
00:39:10.660 There should, the next time a professor like this comes out, there should be a call from whoever the department, the Cabinet Secretary of Education is, say, hey, um, your funding is suspended until this professor is fired.
00:39:21.760 And it better not continue.
00:39:23.880 And also, DEI, CRT, and Black-only dormitories will not be tolerated and will not be subsidized by the federal government.
00:39:31.040 And again, I will say this, and I don't want to get too into the future because I do want to, I want to just continue to celebrate because we earned it.
00:39:38.220 However, I am so encouraged, Megan, based on how the Trump team is, they are saying this phrase over and over again, fulfill the mandate, fulfill the mandate.
00:39:51.320 And boy, there's, there's a team of all-stars coming together that I think is going to make a lot of people happy.
00:39:58.900 Uh, we are going to sprint out of the gate.
00:40:01.360 Um, there will be a lot of reversals and also a return to common sense and order and decency.
00:40:07.460 Um, so I'm, I'm thrilled that, and, uh, Susie Wiles is a phenomenal pick to do that.
00:40:12.860 But anyway, um, I don't want to digress too much on that.
00:40:15.420 I'm just saying that.
00:40:16.100 No, that's thrilling.
00:40:17.880 The, uh, the Department of Education is definitely going to be, uh, a focal point of ours.
00:40:22.320 Can you talk about Susie Wiles?
00:40:24.180 She ran Trump's campaign.
00:40:25.560 She, she used to work for DeSantis.
00:40:27.300 It didn't end particularly well.
00:40:28.560 Then she moved over to team Trump and, you know, they made history.
00:40:32.800 So now she's going to be his chief of staff, which I don't know her well, but I, I like the idea of somebody who was able to manage, I'm using air quotes, Trump, as well as anybody can quote manage Trump, right?
00:40:46.280 Like I think outside of Melania, almost, almost nobody can do that.
00:40:50.060 Right. But like, I know she kept him in like between the bumpers for, I would say at least 80% of his campaign, which is an amazing feat.
00:41:00.720 So what do you, what do you expect from her?
00:41:03.100 Well, first of all, she's spectacular.
00:41:04.420 Let me tell you, uh, two things, uh, that I think are important.
00:41:06.900 Number one is she never, ever tried to manipulate Trump on who he talks to, uh, how he was receiving information, which is something every other chief of staff or person prior in that role would do.
00:41:19.820 They try to cut off access.
00:41:21.780 They said, look, it's the president's prerogative.
00:41:23.440 He could do what he wants to do.
00:41:24.840 She, and she would remain so consistent with that, which was awesome.
00:41:28.020 At the same time, she was able to organize, uh, a very diverse cast of characters to be able to get towards this mission.
00:41:36.160 But let me tell you why I really have respect for Susie Wiles.
00:41:39.660 If we would have lost Megan, Susie Wiles almost assuredly would have gone to federal prison.
00:41:44.460 Let's just be honest.
00:41:45.640 Anybody close to Trump would have, and they'll think about it.
00:41:48.000 And she knew that.
00:41:48.760 She risked her entire professional career, which was an excellent one.
00:41:52.920 She risked her entire life because there would have been a revenge campaign, which either they would have gone to her to go rat on Trump or whatever, right?
00:42:00.900 On fake stuff.
00:42:01.780 And someone who was willing to risk that, given the lawfare state, is someone who is deserving of being a White House chief of staff.
00:42:09.640 Um, not someone on the outside.
00:42:11.820 She put it all on the line for her country because everyone enters Trump orbit and myself included in Elon.
00:42:18.060 We kind of knew that if things wouldn't go our way, all of our get out the vote, all of our organizations were going to come under incredible scrutiny.
00:42:25.080 I mean, you know how it is.
00:42:25.820 I mean, these people, as they would say in the video, petty, and they want to eliminate and they want to try to turn the country into one party rule like California.
00:42:32.680 So Susie Wiles knew the stakes.
00:42:34.120 I want everyone to understand this.
00:42:35.620 Susie Wiles leaned in when Donald Trump received the Mar-a-Lago raid.
00:42:41.020 She leaned in when Donald Trump received the January 6th indictments.
00:42:45.180 How many people in politics would do that?
00:42:47.820 There was no hedging.
00:42:49.160 There was no backup plan.
00:42:51.120 She said, we're going to win this thing.
00:42:53.260 We are going to go get this thing done.
00:42:54.980 And she was unfazed, focused, like a heat-seeking missile to get Donald Trump back in the White House.
00:43:01.240 And so that speaks to her character, her tenacity.
00:43:05.940 And let's be honest, until we get the FBI figured out, they're going to try to do a Peter Strzok stroke smirk crossfire hurricane again.
00:43:13.380 And I said this to the team yesterday.
00:43:16.280 I said, guys, first couple days of the administration, don't be surprised if an FBI agent shows up again like Peter Strzok and tries to get you guys to say something.
00:43:23.800 And he does a 302.
00:43:25.100 And next thing you know, they try to Michael Flynn you again.
00:43:28.140 Susie Wiles will never turn on Donald Trump.
00:43:31.840 And other people that were being contemplated, I don't know.
00:43:36.100 But Susie Wiles will remain loyal to the country and to Trump.
00:43:38.680 And also, she's wicked smart.
00:43:41.700 Well, that's the thing.
00:43:42.560 And he's had chiefs of staffs who are out there thinking that they know better than Trump, you know, that they need to, like, control Donald Trump.
00:43:47.960 It's like, at this point, the man is owed some deference.
00:43:51.980 His instincts have proven very, very apt.
00:43:54.900 And I think she understands that, that she's in a supporting role.
00:43:57.920 She's not there to usurp his power.
00:44:00.200 She's there to help him channel it in whatever way he deems best.
00:44:03.540 She wasn't elected president.
00:44:04.820 I'm not saying she thinks that.
00:44:05.800 I'm just saying he's had some past chiefs of staff, as we've seen in the late phase of this election, who just feel they know better.
00:44:12.360 They thought they knew better than Trump that they somehow had earned a mandate to govern, and they hadn't.
00:44:16.720 I want to spend our remaining time on two points.
00:44:20.120 One, there's buzz in the political rags today and by political pundits like this guy Bakari Sellers over on CNN, though he's not the only one, suggesting the move in the next couple of months is, well, I'll let him tell it to you.
00:44:36.840 Here, watch.
00:44:37.200 Is you have a hell of a vice president right there who has a legal pedigree to sit on the Supreme Court and let Republicans go crazy in eighth.
00:44:48.000 I'm even mentioning that option.
00:44:49.840 Did Bakari Sellers just float Vice President Kamala Harris as a potential Supreme Court nominee?
00:44:55.520 Not only am I floating it, but I want to stir up everything.
00:44:58.540 I want people's heads to explode this morning so we go into the weekend, just knowing that the chaos has not ended just yet.
00:45:04.300 What do you make of that idea?
00:45:09.460 Well, yeah, are they talking about packing the court?
00:45:11.860 So adding?
00:45:12.820 No, no, they're saying force Sotomayor out, force her not to pull a Ginsburg.
00:45:17.200 They're saying she's not in great health, she's 70, but she's got diabetes, and they were saying she's dealing with some personal things.
00:45:22.620 She should step down because you never know what could happen in four years of Trump, and he should put Harris in there while they still control the Senate.
00:45:29.040 You know why I think that's hilarious?
00:45:30.880 Guys, could Kamala Harris get through open air cross-examination of Senate testimony?
00:45:37.000 I would love to hear.
00:45:38.800 Hey, Kamala Harris, have you ever prosecuted a case?
00:45:42.040 Kamala Harris, which McDonald's did you work at?
00:45:45.120 Right, right.
00:45:47.520 Now, if they do it-
00:45:48.880 Also, I'd love to hear.
00:45:50.080 You know, you were such a champion, madam, when you cross-examined Brett Kavanaugh for a role in the U.S. Supreme Court.
00:45:55.600 I know that female abuse of any kind is deeply important to you.
00:46:00.240 Let's talk about this Daily Mail piece, which was backed up by the woman's first-person testimonial and by independent witnesses.
00:46:07.560 Should we have any concerns that your husband, the husband of a potential Supreme Court justice, is a woman abuser, madam?
00:46:15.700 I just want to hear that.
00:46:16.440 No, exactly.
00:46:17.860 And I find it unlikely that Joe Manchin, on his way out, will even put up with this and Kyrsten Sinema.
00:46:24.060 Because remember, they're at 51 Senate seats.
00:46:26.280 And they're running out of time because, remember, the Senate actually gets sworn in in early January ahead of the presidential inauguration.
00:46:34.200 So I find this very unlikely because they also have to pass a spending bill that they would do this.
00:46:39.220 If they do it, though, I mean, we'll be ready for it.
00:46:41.720 But I will say that if Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, I find that to be low likely.
00:46:47.780 But can we also just celebrate, guys?
00:46:49.340 We took the United States Senate, which is amazing.
00:46:52.500 McCormick's race is over, despite what Mark Elias is saying.
00:46:56.260 53 Senate seats.
00:46:57.060 He's the lawyer representing Bob Casey trying to challenge McCormick's, which gives Republicans 53 seats.
00:47:02.680 Keep going.
00:47:03.160 Yeah.
00:47:03.640 Carrie Lake's race is not done.
00:47:05.200 She still has a little bit of a climb to go.
00:47:07.200 So I wouldn't say she's the favorite.
00:47:08.320 But there's still over 850,000 votes to count, and she's down 43,000 votes.
00:47:12.660 So anyone that does math can tell you that that is not over at all.
00:47:16.420 And there's still a lot of Trumpy votes left there.
00:47:19.220 And so that would be amazing to get to 54.
00:47:21.380 But yeah, look, the Democrats have been displaced from power.
00:47:25.120 And what I will say, though, is that Donald Trump, working with this Senate, I wouldn't be surprised if Alito and Clarence Thomas respectfully step aside.
00:47:34.540 And we get two young guns there to kind of just allow them the respect that they are due, but also get a couple 40-somethings that love the Constitution that we can then cement.
00:47:48.580 They're going to be tough to recreate.
00:47:50.380 I mean, like, with all their respect to Kavanaugh and Coney Barrett and Gorsuch, they're not Alito and Thomas.
00:47:56.680 Like, you need deep-seated conservatives.
00:47:58.480 And mind you, this is the key of having 53 Senate seats, is that you can lose now Murkowski and Collins, and you're at 51, and you could lose even one more.
00:48:10.180 And Mr. J.D. Vance is now a tiebreaker.
00:48:12.720 So you could get all the way down to 50, which is amazing.
00:48:17.060 Again, I would hate to see Clarence Thomas leave the court.
00:48:20.440 I would hate to see Alito.
00:48:21.720 But if you want to play the long game, I think them stepping down—
00:48:26.720 And you know what, though, Charlie?
00:48:27.680 They love the country.
00:48:30.100 Oh, no, they do.
00:48:30.860 They would do it.
00:48:31.860 And by the way, they would have more fun.
00:48:32.980 I think they would do it.
00:48:33.460 They got role reversed.
00:48:35.600 They've done so much.
00:48:36.880 I just feel like—
00:48:37.760 I would like them to stay just a little longer just until we get some of the trans cases that are working their way up.
00:48:42.660 No, for sure.
00:48:43.200 Heard, right, by this court.
00:48:45.380 We're out of time.
00:48:47.680 I know we got to go.
00:48:48.580 So I'll save the discussion on alternative media and its role for the next time, because that's another great one to dig into.
00:48:54.080 Charlie Kirk, you're a miracle worker.
00:48:56.820 Congrats.
00:48:57.660 I'm so in awe of you.
00:48:58.840 God is a God of miracles, and we serve a great God.
00:49:03.140 And the best days are ahead now, Megan.
00:49:05.020 I've never been—and I'll just close this.
00:49:06.620 I know we have to go.
00:49:07.860 I questioned—I said, what country am I living in at times?
00:49:11.200 And it turns out I'm living in a pretty awesome country.
00:49:15.200 Oh, good luck over the next weeks.
00:49:17.500 I'm thrilled you're involved.
00:49:18.880 All the best.
00:49:19.380 Thank you.
00:49:20.000 God bless.
00:49:20.960 Oh, yay.
00:49:22.460 Such a joyous time, isn't it?
00:49:24.840 It's so nice to take in the news and just feel happy.
00:49:28.500 I don't know about you, but I'm loving it.
00:49:30.980 To steal a tagline from the place Kamala Harris never worked.
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00:50:24.820 I wanted to talk through some of the big stories of this week post-election.
00:50:33.920 Now, I just want to tell you what has gone on here at the MK Show over the past few hours.
00:50:38.880 We were going to do Glenn Greenwald and then Charlie Kirk, but Glenn wasn't able to join us because he isn't feeling well.
00:50:48.980 So we had the most hilarious miscommunication on my team about this this morning that you must know about.
00:50:54.700 Steve Krakauer and Glenn have given me permission to share this with you.
00:50:58.560 So Steve has a dog in Dallas, Texas, where he lives, who had to have emergency surgery this week and hasn't been doing that well.
00:51:09.900 And so I knew this, that he and his wife are dealing with their sick dog, and we didn't know what the outcome was going to be.
00:51:16.500 And then this morning, he had mentioned something in passing that Glenn wasn't feeling well separately, Glenn Greenwald,
00:51:24.340 and that we weren't sure if he was going to be able to make air, and we said, okay, that's fine.
00:51:28.560 So I kind of forgot about that information on Glenn, and then Steve sends me a text this morning on our group text chain that reads,
00:51:43.640 Glenn is out, chest infection.
00:51:46.300 We'll prep some more for your block, which we will record whenever.
00:51:50.360 And I thought he, I thought Glenn was the name of his dog.
00:51:55.780 And I thought he was telling me his dog didn't make it.
00:52:00.360 I forgot all about Glenn being sick.
00:52:03.920 And I wrote, oh, no, get out of here.
00:52:06.040 We've got this.
00:52:07.040 Go.
00:52:07.820 So sorry, Steve.
00:52:13.240 And he responded with, wait, sorry, Glenn Greenwald, I'm saying, is out for today.
00:52:20.360 I wrote back, oh, Lord.
00:52:21.880 I thought Glenn was your dog.
00:52:24.780 And he said, no.
00:52:26.620 Oh, sorry, that's Lexi.
00:52:28.140 They did take her spleen out, but she's doing okay.
00:52:30.640 And then we're all dying.
00:52:32.120 We're all crying.
00:52:33.420 Everybody texts back, I'm dying.
00:52:35.000 I'm dying.
00:52:35.280 Look at Lexi.
00:52:36.180 She's okay.
00:52:36.980 She's got the big dog.
00:52:38.940 Collar on.
00:52:39.760 You get after the spay or neutering.
00:52:41.620 She's going to make it.
00:52:42.800 So her name is not Glenn.
00:52:45.000 And she's Lexi.
00:52:47.620 She's fine.
00:52:48.400 And in even better news, Glenn Greenwald is fine, too.
00:52:51.960 He does need the day off.
00:52:53.700 But thank God he's fine, too.
00:52:57.140 Do you ever have one of those with your friends?
00:52:59.100 We're just like total, choo.
00:53:01.280 And meanwhile, we were laughing about how callous Steve was.
00:53:04.180 Like, if it really was his dog.
00:53:06.540 Glenn, out.
00:53:08.340 Glenn, out.
00:53:09.280 Chest infection.
00:53:09.980 Wow.
00:53:10.900 Harsh.
00:53:11.560 Jeez.
00:53:11.860 Okay, but, you know, good luck with your grieving.
00:53:14.660 Anyway, everyone's fine.
00:53:16.000 And you're stuck with me for the one hour.
00:53:18.840 And we'll bring on Charlie as well.
00:53:20.560 We'll have Charlie here as well.
00:53:21.700 Okay.
00:53:22.460 So I want to start with what's happening over on the left as they are in a full panic.
00:53:28.120 They don't know why they lost.
00:53:30.260 Like, the fingers are all like this.
00:53:33.020 You know, it seems like Kamala Harris's team thinks it's Joe Biden's fault.
00:53:37.320 Joe Biden's team thinks it's Kamala Harris's fault.
00:53:39.900 There's another pocket of Dems that think it's just, you know, market circumstances and the
00:53:44.240 Biden policies that got us into this hole.
00:53:46.500 There's another group that's saying global, global circumstances.
00:53:50.880 You know, a lot of incumbents are losing globally, and it's all due to COVID.
00:53:57.380 Meanwhile, he wasn't actually the president who was in there when COVID broke out.
00:54:02.220 He was just the one who ruined everything after it did.
00:54:05.060 Um, and then there's a very, very small pocket of Democrats that seems to be saying,
00:54:10.700 do you think it's us, Stephen?
00:54:12.840 Like, is it possible that it's, that it's us?
00:54:15.140 I don't know.
00:54:16.120 It might be us.
00:54:16.900 And then there's the pocket of Democrats that's turning on that last pocket.
00:54:20.540 Like, ah, how dare you?
00:54:22.860 How dare you say it's us?
00:54:24.460 F you.
00:54:24.960 That's your racism and your misogyny and your transphobia speaking, which is super fun for
00:54:31.060 me because it shows they're not going to change and they're going to keep losing, um, that
00:54:36.060 pocket of the Democrat party that just won't move on identity politics is a cancer from
00:54:41.300 within that is going to make them lose elections from now to forevermore.
00:54:45.960 I mean, either they will remove that pocket, they will excise it like the cancer that it is from
00:54:52.720 their party, or they will be brought down by said cancer as it metastasizes throughout the
00:54:58.480 Democratic body.
00:55:00.200 Either way, our side wins the normals we win.
00:55:05.140 And I know, I know, cause I, I know who watches the show.
00:55:08.580 I know I am speaking to Democrats who have left the party because of this nonsense or who are still
00:55:14.020 in the party, but begrudgingly because they're pro-choice or what have you on other issues.
00:55:19.360 So I do describe us as the normal side.
00:55:22.380 It's not just the right that I'm talking to here.
00:55:24.600 It's the normies, like normal people who think there's a Mr. Rogers video that just got tweeted
00:55:31.400 out by libs of Tik TOK who think as Mr. Rogers did boys stay boys.
00:55:38.300 Oh, ho forever.
00:55:40.260 Girls stay girls forever too.
00:55:42.800 And on all the other stuff, maybe we'll cue that up so you can listen to Fred Rogers do
00:55:48.080 it instead of me.
00:55:50.120 I'm going to, I'm going to talk to start off with Julie Roginski.
00:55:53.680 I worked with her at Fox news.
00:55:55.080 She's a Democrat.
00:55:55.980 She's more of a centrist.
00:55:57.520 And she's one of the Dems who are in that penultimate group.
00:56:02.440 I talked about saying, maybe it's us.
00:56:05.440 Like, maybe it's, maybe we've gone too far.
00:56:07.540 And then of course, getting the backlash for saying that, but take a listen to her.
00:56:12.260 I believe this was today.
00:56:13.320 Stop four.
00:56:13.720 I'm going to speak some hard truths to my friends in the democratic party.
00:56:18.000 This is not Joe Biden's fault.
00:56:20.240 It's not Kamala Harris's fault.
00:56:21.800 It's not Barack Obama's fault.
00:56:23.660 It is the fault of the democratic party and not knowing how to communicate effectively to voters.
00:56:29.920 We are not the party of common sense, which is what the message that voters sent to us.
00:56:35.680 We address Latino voters as Latin X, for instance, because that's the politically correct thing to do.
00:56:40.920 It makes them think that we don't even live on the same planet as they do.
00:56:44.780 When we put pronouns after names and say she, her, as opposed to saying, you know what,
00:56:50.460 if I call you by the wrong pronoun, call me out.
00:56:53.480 I'm sorry.
00:56:54.040 I won't do it again.
00:56:54.880 But stop with the virtue signaling and just speak to people like they're normal.
00:56:58.700 But that's not what Democrats do.
00:57:00.800 We constantly try to parse out different ways of speaking to different cohorts because our focus
00:57:05.680 groups are polling shows that so-and-so appeals to such and such.
00:57:09.720 That's not how normal people think.
00:57:11.360 It's not common sense.
00:57:14.120 No, it's not.
00:57:15.940 She was right, except for the last part in there where she was saying, if I say the wrong pronoun,
00:57:20.460 call me out.
00:57:20.920 No, don't call me out.
00:57:22.880 You should make it obvious for me what your pronoun is.
00:57:25.640 And if you don't, you're going to have to suffer the consequences of my stepping on
00:57:29.160 the wrong one.
00:57:29.740 I don't.
00:57:30.760 Sorry, I'm not doing pronouns.
00:57:32.760 And if I use the one that you look like, if I happen to go with your gender identity,
00:57:38.380 then good on you.
00:57:39.240 You fooled me.
00:57:40.100 And if I go with what my eyes and my instincts tell me, then too bad.
00:57:44.020 But whatever.
00:57:45.020 She's trying to speak sense to her side.
00:57:47.160 And I appreciate that.
00:57:48.080 But there is very good reason to believe it's not going to happen.
00:57:53.060 She can't convince these people.
00:57:55.500 They're too rabid.
00:57:57.500 And they are deeply, deeply rabid.
00:58:01.640 You tell me how she is going to get through to the likes of Joy Reid.
00:58:07.080 Now, I'm going to play you an old soundbite of Joy Reid's.
00:58:10.080 She hasn't changed a bit from this.
00:58:11.640 But this is Joy Reid after Kyle Rittenhouse.
00:58:16.940 I can't remember whether this was after he was acquitted or what it must have been after
00:58:20.660 he was arrested or just found himself in the news.
00:58:23.060 But I remember the clip so well because she was mocking white tears.
00:58:28.540 This woman is a raging racist.
00:58:32.220 Race is everything to her.
00:58:34.560 She hates white people.
00:58:36.240 And she has one of the most prominent positions on the dying industry of cable news primetime.
00:58:43.140 But she does have one of the most prominent positions on it.
00:58:45.560 Take a listen to SOT 21.
00:58:47.880 There's a thing about both white vigilantism and white tears, particularly male white tears.
00:58:57.580 Really white tears in general, because that's what carrots are, right?
00:59:01.100 They carrot out.
00:59:01.800 And then as soon as they get caught, it's like, bring waterworks.
00:59:06.240 Oh, oh, for who's crying now, Joy?
00:59:11.240 How you feeling this week?
00:59:13.560 Your laughter at all the white tears.
00:59:16.420 Guess what?
00:59:17.780 Whites and blacks and Latinos just flipped you off.
00:59:22.500 No one is buying into your version of identity politics and reducing everything to race essentialism
00:59:27.460 and all the nonsense anymore.
00:59:29.440 Or you've lost and your entire belief system has been rejected by the vast majority of the American people.
00:59:39.060 Maybe you'll go home and cry about it and I'll laugh at your tears.
00:59:42.800 It's just absurd.
00:59:44.120 That's what Julia Roginski is up against.
00:59:46.440 The Joy Reads of the world, the Sonny Hostens of the world.
00:59:49.720 She's still railing on.
00:59:50.880 We played this for you, but listen to SOT 15.
00:59:52.680 Finally, we talk a lot about these different demographics and these assumptions of where
00:59:59.780 they're going to go.
01:00:00.720 Latinos in Texas, a district that's 97% Latino, went 75 percentage points for Donald Trump.
01:00:07.020 Why?
01:00:07.700 Misogyny.
01:00:08.360 No, it's on the border.
01:00:09.760 It's misogyny.
01:00:10.060 The border crisis is on their doorstep.
01:00:11.860 So, so.
01:00:12.420 And they were begging people to care about it for years.
01:00:14.620 We need to take some lessons.
01:00:15.760 That's what that was.
01:00:16.340 The lessons are not misogyny.
01:00:17.160 Knock, knock.
01:00:18.140 Who's there?
01:00:19.000 Oh my gosh, it's whooping.
01:00:20.320 Misogyny.
01:00:23.640 See, I love this.
01:00:24.820 I think this is great, great news for the normies because those people cannot be convinced
01:00:29.940 out of their sick, sick ideology.
01:00:32.940 And so, again, they'll lose every election from now until they do, until they get ostracized
01:00:38.920 out of the party altogether.
01:00:40.440 I mean, and then there's the true radical left who's gone beyond all the identity issues.
01:00:44.840 I mean, don't, don't get me wrong.
01:00:45.940 The person I'm going to show you is 100% wrapped in all of them.
01:00:48.400 But like genuinely believes the Hitler fascist stuff, like is distraught because they really
01:00:56.940 think Hitler just got reelected.
01:00:58.760 Most of them were just pretending.
01:01:00.020 But then they're the ones who genuinely believe it like AOC.
01:01:04.620 Take a listen to AOC and sought 26.
01:01:07.540 We are about to enter a political period that will have consequences for the rest of our
01:01:15.620 lives.
01:01:16.500 Let's say peers in history of mass movements of people that mobilize to protect one another
01:01:23.480 in times of fascism and authoritarianism.
01:01:28.640 And this is the era that we are poised to enter.
01:01:36.460 Donald Trump has talked about turning the military on U.S. citizens that he deems his domestic
01:01:45.680 political enemies.
01:01:47.000 Authoritarians and people that he affiliates closely with and strong men abroad in regimes
01:01:57.720 like that.
01:01:58.280 It is not uncommon to jail political dissidents or legislative opponents.
01:02:05.240 One of the most prominent Democrats in America.
01:02:10.280 She's gone.
01:02:11.320 There's no I don't know what's going to happen to AOC.
01:02:15.080 Her district went more than double digits to the right in this election.
01:02:20.160 She may have a very limited time left.
01:02:22.200 And there was talk about AOC becoming a senator.
01:02:24.840 It's not going to happen.
01:02:26.260 New York, the state of New York, never mind the city, which is the most blue part of New
01:02:31.200 York, move double digits to the right.
01:02:33.560 She's not going to be a senator.
01:02:35.500 What what the Democrat Party needs right now to save itself is moderates, moderates, normal
01:02:44.740 Democrats like the ones who listen to this show.
01:02:48.800 Sometimes I know I hear from you.
01:02:51.520 I read the emails if you want to send me when it's Megan at Megan Kelly dot com.
01:02:55.720 And some of my friends, some of my friends are still Democrats and they're listening to
01:02:59.140 me right now and they know I absolutely adore them.
01:03:01.160 Um, they they don't know what's happened to their party.
01:03:04.820 They're not on board with all this shit.
01:03:06.240 They may play along here and there, but they're they're not on board with all the shit and
01:03:08.880 they don't want this nonsense.
01:03:09.600 So they certainly don't believe that fascism lies.
01:03:12.100 You know, they're like they're they're normal Democrats who are like pro choice and they're
01:03:17.280 really worried about the environment.
01:03:18.640 And they think the Democrats, at least the Democrat Party of old, used to be better for them on
01:03:23.300 tax policy.
01:03:24.360 It used to admit Romney's party would favor more.
01:03:27.700 They thought the rich and tax cuts and not them with social social safety net programs.
01:03:33.160 That everything's done.
01:03:35.280 That's all done.
01:03:36.160 That's yesterday.
01:03:36.960 That's yesteryear.
01:03:38.220 It's a new day.
01:03:40.300 And that is why today and yesterday we've seen Bernie Sanders all over the news saying
01:03:46.360 things like, is it any wonder that the Democrats lost the working class after years of abandoning
01:03:54.020 it and not caring at all about it?
01:03:56.720 And now they're really hand wringing over how are we going to win elections with only
01:04:03.920 the smart people?
01:04:05.300 It's going to be really hard.
01:04:07.000 It was a lot easier when we had the dumb ones.
01:04:09.700 That's how they view the working class.
01:04:12.260 I mean, speaking of Sonny Hostin, you saw that yesterday.
01:04:15.660 They're they're uneducated.
01:04:17.580 You know, it's great when they vote for us, but they're dumb.
01:04:21.100 And it was wonderful because we could just fool them right into voting for us.
01:04:24.140 But now somehow they've been wrested away from us by this maniac, Donald Trump.
01:04:30.600 There is a group that's trying to convince themselves that really what the problem is
01:04:35.040 here is not anything I listed in those first whatever five possibilities that the that the
01:04:41.460 Dems are throwing out there is their problem.
01:04:43.220 But a right wing media system that has risen up to deliver misinformation in the deep,
01:04:54.380 dark corners of the Internet.
01:04:55.720 We're hearing this more and more.
01:04:57.820 It happened the night Trump won.
01:05:00.820 Jen Psaki threw it out there.
01:05:01.980 She would not be the only one.
01:05:03.480 But this is one we have on camera.
01:05:05.600 We've got to hear somewhere.
01:05:06.780 You guys know the one I'm looking for.
01:05:07.980 Jen Psaki, Monday night.
01:05:09.700 Take a listen.
01:05:10.160 And finally, let me just end with this.
01:05:13.820 Our democracy is strong and the American people are fierce.
01:05:18.040 But even if Trump is defeated tomorrow, he has exposed during his time out there some
01:05:23.620 serious limitations within our system.
01:05:26.160 And it may be time to ask ourselves things like whether social media platforms should
01:05:30.380 have the freedom to operate at a lower level of accountability than local television networks
01:05:34.540 in terms of the lies they can spread.
01:05:36.720 Or whether the Electoral College alone is the right way to determine who should lead this
01:05:41.160 country or whether, just putting out there, a convicted felon should be eligible to run
01:05:47.020 for the highest office in the land.
01:05:49.220 Those are some really important questions at some point we will need to consider.
01:05:52.680 But there's plenty of time for that.
01:05:54.300 Those questions are not for tomorrow.
01:05:56.140 Tomorrow is about answers.
01:05:57.740 It's about finally learning how much protecting our democracy matters, whether morality and character
01:06:03.340 matter, whether our rights to make choices about our own bodies matter enough to enough of the
01:06:08.260 American people.
01:06:09.780 Tomorrow, we will start to learn a whole lot more.
01:06:14.340 Dora, social media platforms.
01:06:17.440 Those are the problem.
01:06:19.960 And of course, what she's speaking about is podcasts like the one you're listening to now,
01:06:24.660 and most particularly, X.
01:06:27.540 Elon Musk bought Twitter, and they don't control it anymore, even though they have leftists controlling
01:06:33.900 Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, and YouTube.
01:06:41.220 However, it's not enough.
01:06:43.860 Rumble allows conservative thought uncensored.
01:06:47.540 X allows conservative thought uncensored.
01:06:50.100 And don't be mistaken, X has had a massive influence on changing the conversation because
01:06:56.340 it just allowed it to flourish.
01:06:58.720 And when conservative ideas are allowed to flourish, they often tend to win.
01:07:04.160 Not always, but often.
01:07:06.260 And on some of the insanity being pushed on us by people like Dora Psaki, we always win.
01:07:12.300 Because her side speaks nonsense.
01:07:14.220 Women steers.
01:07:15.680 Joy Reid, no one wants to listen to that.
01:07:17.880 Just give her a platform.
01:07:18.860 Allow more people to see it by making that viral on X.
01:07:22.180 And she loses, like the loser she is, and to quote Trump, has been for a long time.
01:07:26.920 Rosie's a loser.
01:07:27.600 She's been a loser for a long time.
01:07:30.760 Okay, so that was Psaki the night before the election.
01:07:33.400 I'll give you a couple more because this is growing on the left.
01:07:36.800 Here's Salon, which is just a left-wing rag.
01:07:39.720 But this is Sabrina Hockey's hot take.
01:07:43.660 This is a lawyer, 25-year federal trial lawyer, First and 14th Amendment defense.
01:07:49.720 Okay.
01:07:50.280 So she says the following.
01:07:55.320 It's more complicated than Americans seemingly embracing a known monster.
01:08:01.520 She says the truth here is that Trump supporters in the U.S. consume right-wing propaganda far more than the rest of the country,
01:08:19.840 which means they were either not informed about Trump's sinister plans or Fox and Musk succeeded in scaring them with a firehose of Harris disinformation.
01:08:32.040 I mean, if only there were a way for the left-wing and Democrats to get their messaging out to people,
01:08:40.560 how could they get past this evil propaganda being pushed on them by Fox and Musk?
01:08:50.060 How on earth could they get their message out to the electorate?
01:08:54.460 Like, hmm, could it be CBS, NBC, and ABC, and CNN, and MSNBC, and the BBC?
01:09:03.920 I could go on.
01:09:04.860 The New York Times and Politico and USA Today.
01:09:09.060 Is it the Washington Post, the San Francisco Chronicle?
01:09:13.160 Like, what?
01:09:15.200 The Star Tribune.
01:09:17.280 How could they ever?
01:09:18.940 Oh, wait.
01:09:20.220 They control all of those outlets.
01:09:22.620 Maybe they could have, I don't know, it's going to be tough to find some Hollywood actor other than, like, Gary Sinise and, you know, John Voight come out.
01:09:33.220 You know, Dennis Quaid.
01:09:34.100 Like, how are they ever going to get past those Hollywood stars to get their message?
01:09:40.420 This is absurd.
01:09:42.280 Do we have to go back to the Oprah Roundtable?
01:09:44.860 Meryl Streep?
01:09:46.300 Madam President.
01:09:47.560 Oh, I mean, Vice President.
01:09:50.060 I know, I know you're going to win.
01:09:51.700 I know you're going to win.
01:09:53.520 Her little love notes to Kamala Harris with her stupid, I've met with chancellors and kings and prime ministers and presidents.
01:10:01.640 Oh, you're so important.
01:10:03.200 Oprah.
01:10:03.500 Like, they control that entire industry that influences our, what we watch on the big screen, what we watch on the small screen, what comes into our homes, what comes in via YouTube as it gets its second or third life, what comes in via Netflix.
01:10:16.760 I mean, do you remember Netflix after the whole BLM protests?
01:10:19.900 If only they had a way of reaching us with their messages, for example, about how evil and racist America is.
01:10:26.940 Has anyone heard that at all in the past five years?
01:10:30.200 No, it's because of the damn right wing ecosystem.
01:10:34.560 They're deluded.
01:10:36.140 Try to go to a basketball game back in 2020 without getting the BLM message shoved down your throat.
01:10:43.520 How about all of corporate America that for the past five plus years has been trying to earn a gold star pat on the head from human rights campaign, which is a far left organization trying to cut off the genitals of our children.
01:10:57.440 Yes, you are 100%.
01:11:00.780 That's your new mission.
01:11:02.860 And if a corporation isn't in favor of it, you give them a bad score and it actually hurts their bottom line and they've been bending the knee to you in response to your message, which is not from the right wing ecosphere.
01:11:16.020 The absurdity of this weaponized disinformation will ultimately kill the first amendment, says this 25 year federal trial lawyer.
01:11:27.440 We aren't hateful, she goes on.
01:11:30.180 We're just misinformed.
01:11:31.520 As I see it, Trump didn't win this election.
01:11:34.980 Disinformation did.
01:11:36.420 More specifically, the world's richest men funding disinformation will stop at nothing to end government regulations, taxes, and democracy itself.
01:11:47.540 We aren't a hateful nation.
01:11:49.420 We're a nation that's been lied to.
01:11:52.560 So the problem is the rich people backed Trump.
01:11:55.700 Trump, okay, says the person on the team of the campaign that raised a billion dollars in less than three months, a billion dollars like that.
01:12:08.440 I've told the story before, but Jeffrey Katzenberg, one of the richest men in America and one of the most important men in Hollywood, told me in 2016, I will spend every dime I have to get Hillary Clinton elected.
01:12:19.120 There is no limit to the amount I will spend.
01:12:22.220 And guess who was one of the chairs of Joe Biden's campaign?
01:12:26.100 Jeffrey Katzenberg.
01:12:27.360 How'd that work out?
01:12:29.000 How'd that work out?
01:12:29.700 Their billionaires couldn't get it done because our working class people saw through their lies.
01:12:37.680 So it must be the fault of the right wing ecosystem that they're listening to.
01:12:41.380 Enter Jen Psaki.
01:12:42.560 The right wing ecosystem, meaning social media apps, meaning X and podcasting must be controlled.
01:12:49.540 They must be controlled or we're going to keep losing.
01:12:53.920 You see how it's going?
01:12:55.240 They're not the only ones.
01:12:56.500 Listen to this person.
01:12:57.880 It's PBS reporter, Laura Barron Lopez on.
01:13:03.260 Are they on CBS?
01:13:04.800 Is this person on?
01:13:05.660 They're on CNN.
01:13:06.820 Yeah.
01:13:07.040 She was on.
01:13:08.120 This person was on CNN the other night.
01:13:10.160 Listen.
01:13:11.820 Maybe it's not so much Democrats policies or messaging or the words that they use specifically, but there is an entire right wing media ecosystem.
01:13:20.300 It doesn't exist on the left.
01:13:22.060 It does not exist in the center or mainstream.
01:13:24.700 And people are getting their information in very different ways now.
01:13:29.820 The right wing media ecosystem is to blame.
01:13:34.320 And this is why we have been asking people to go to MeganKelley.com and just sign up.
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01:13:48.220 It's so fucking annoying when your email gets sold to everybody because you're just trying to sign up with the product.
01:13:53.380 We do not sell your email list and we are not trying to we won't we never bomb our audience with anything.
01:13:58.540 You get one email from us a week if you want.
01:14:00.320 And that's our American News Minute email on Fridays where we have all sorts of fun stuff.
01:14:04.440 This this actually this week, by the way, you should sign up because we put in a bunch of behind the scenes photos from when I went went and met with Trump on Monday night in Pittsburgh.
01:14:11.740 And some of the Trump family.
01:14:15.140 There's like some really great stuff in there.
01:14:16.500 Some behind the scenes photos from our set during the election night coverage.
01:14:19.760 But anyway, you can sign up for that if you want by going to MeganKelley.com.
01:14:23.720 But just give us your email so we have a direct relationship with you because we don't know what these lunatics are going to do.
01:14:28.120 They're not in power, which is good.
01:14:29.700 And we don't think they're going to take power in the house, which is good, but they might.
01:14:33.620 We're just a little worried and we are not trying to like some people are exploiting this to try to get you to pay them.
01:14:39.860 That's not us.
01:14:40.420 We just want to make sure we have contact with our audience in case something happens, like on YouTube, which is not controlled by the government and is controlled by lefties.
01:14:51.560 So far, we've been good with them, but I don't know what the future is going to bring.
01:14:55.840 There's more and more of this talk about shutting down these so-called purveyors of different disinformation.
01:15:01.700 And they're smearing these people.
01:15:03.820 And we are some of them.
01:15:07.560 Here is another one.
01:15:09.060 I want to make sure I get this guy's name correct.
01:15:11.960 Anand Giridadas.
01:15:15.540 And he was on MSNBC offering more of this nonsense today.
01:15:22.800 Particularly the media ecosystem, it's not a good one.
01:15:27.660 It's a negative one.
01:15:28.580 It's a radicalization funnel.
01:15:30.540 But what they have done in their online media ecosystem is build a radicalization engine, literally the way militant groups do around the world, that takes people from relatively low-level annoyances with the world.
01:15:43.440 Why are eggs so expensive?
01:15:45.020 Why is my kid learning this new thing in American history in school that I didn't learn?
01:15:49.300 And then moves them through YouTube videos, through podcasts, moves them from that annoyance all the way, slowly, slowly, slowly, to a full-blown fascist politics.
01:15:59.120 It's an elaborate, multi-billion-dollar infrastructure.
01:16:02.800 And there is nothing like it on the pro-democracy side.
01:16:06.400 We don't have an influence when a man is just lost and lonely and not yet radicalized.
01:16:12.240 We don't have the equivalent of Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson to move that man in a feminist direction.
01:16:18.600 By the way, we should educate men that it's actually really great to live with a strong woman who makes money.
01:16:24.020 It's actually easier.
01:16:24.800 Life is easier.
01:16:25.360 You're an idiot.
01:16:29.240 You actually literally had Joe Rogan on your side up until recently.
01:16:32.840 You're so dumb.
01:16:34.460 Joe Rogan was a Bernie Sanders supporter last time around.
01:16:37.500 Your nonsense idiocy on these woke issues in particular moved him over to the side of the normies.
01:16:46.740 He was norm before, but you guys became so radical.
01:16:50.320 He said, I want no part of you.
01:16:52.720 Same.
01:16:53.320 I can totally relate.
01:16:56.420 I was open-minded.
01:16:58.320 I was never a feminist, but I certainly was listening on where women were in America.
01:17:05.060 And then your absolute insanity radicalized me the other way, to stand up against you, to fight you with everything I have.
01:17:15.520 Because you're destructive and you're deeply, deeply wrong.
01:17:19.540 And my standing up for female empowerment, which I've done my entire life, does not require me to shit all over American men.
01:17:28.180 I'm sorry.
01:17:29.080 But this is why I never called myself a feminist to begin with.
01:17:31.960 Because I knew, I knew what you leftists thought of feminism.
01:17:36.520 It meant abortion and crapping on men.
01:17:39.400 And most of us women over on the side of the normies don't want that.
01:17:44.080 We love our husband.
01:17:45.400 We love our boys, our sons, our dads, our brothers, our male friends and colleagues.
01:17:51.020 And we are not ready to consider this a zero-sum game where we must advance at their expense.
01:17:57.000 Until you get that through your thick fucking head, you'll keep losing.
01:18:02.500 You will keep losing.
01:18:03.920 And I look forward to watching your tears.
01:18:06.300 She's like, join me with your white tears.
01:18:09.560 It's just, it's infuriating, but it's somewhat encouraging too, right?
01:18:13.760 Like I said, they're going to keep losing.
01:18:16.120 They're going to keep losing.
01:18:17.080 That one really fired me up.
01:18:19.960 He's so clueless.
01:18:22.080 And now what we're seeing, in addition to all of this, is that there is a sizable portion.
01:18:27.660 I don't know whether it's the majority.
01:18:29.380 I don't know what size, but sizable of these people who don't even believe any of the bullshit
01:18:37.300 they've been pushing on us.
01:18:39.880 They, they don't believe it.
01:18:43.100 But we heard Scarborough this week, we talked about that earlier, how he was like, there
01:18:50.460 isn't a person who comes over for dinner who doesn't say, my college student doesn't feel
01:18:54.580 like she can say anything.
01:18:55.460 She's going to get canceled on our college campus.
01:18:58.020 Where were you?
01:18:59.340 Where were you fighting for her prior to losing your credibility?
01:19:04.420 Yes, that happened long ago.
01:19:05.420 But the election this week, where were you?
01:19:07.260 And then revealing on Morning Joe, you know what really had effect in this election?
01:19:13.840 The boys playing in girls sports, right?
01:19:16.000 85% of America is against it.
01:19:18.420 You know, that, that really needs to stop.
01:19:20.460 Where were you assholes when the rest of us were advocating for those girls?
01:19:24.980 You know where you were?
01:19:25.820 You were calling us transphobes.
01:19:28.280 I've talked about this myself.
01:19:30.140 I talked about, and as you guys know, I've had my own evolution on this.
01:19:33.980 I was on the wrong side of this 10 years ago, totally wrong side.
01:19:38.860 And, you know, I've bored you guys with a lot of that story, but there was a moment
01:19:42.100 with Dr. Keith Abloh when he came on my show in like 2012, Cher's daughter, Chastity Bono,
01:19:49.300 was transitioning to, you know, male in air quotes, and was on Dancing with the Stars.
01:19:56.580 And Keith Abloh came on my show and said, I really don't think this is a good idea.
01:20:00.100 I think like there's a bit of a social contagion.
01:20:02.960 I'm rephrasing what he said, but it's not smart to highlight this.
01:20:07.080 And it wasn't about hating on trans people.
01:20:08.740 It was about the more we celebrate this in the public eye, the more of it we're going
01:20:12.580 to get.
01:20:12.960 It's not something we should be encouraging.
01:20:14.560 And I chastised him and said, we've, we've had too much hate against trans people.
01:20:19.460 It came from the heart, but I owe Dr. Abloh an apology.
01:20:23.120 I've said this before, and I do apologize to him because he was right.
01:20:27.060 And I was wrong and I want to hear that from Joe Scarborough and Willie Geist.
01:20:35.340 It is not enough to say, gee, the lawn, the lawn sign saying keep boys out of girls sports
01:20:39.500 did really well.
01:20:40.820 Open your eyes, argue, advocate for our girls, do what's right instead of pandering to your
01:20:50.200 leftist viewers who don't want to hear it.
01:20:52.800 And that brings me to this guy.
01:20:55.100 You probably never, never heard of before Seth Moulton, M O U L T O N. He's a congressman
01:21:02.880 from Massachusetts.
01:21:03.680 The sixth district, the woman to Harvard university happens to be a retired U S Marine who served
01:21:11.720 four tours in Iraq.
01:21:13.340 And for that, we thank him.
01:21:15.060 This guy comes out and says the following, this is not on camera.
01:21:23.620 Is it guys?
01:21:24.040 This is just a, uh, okay.
01:21:26.140 This is a written statement.
01:21:27.540 Okay.
01:21:28.720 He, he says the following quote Democrats.
01:21:33.680 This is in the wake of Biden of, uh, Kamala losing Democrats spend way too much time trying
01:21:39.200 not to offend anyone rather than being brutally honest about the challenges many Americans
01:21:43.920 face.
01:21:44.640 I have two little girls.
01:21:46.480 I don't want them getting run over on a playing field by a male or formerly male athlete, but
01:21:52.320 as a Democrat, I'm supposed to be afraid to say that.
01:21:56.340 Well, I first read this and thought, Seth, that's wonderful.
01:21:59.640 Thank you for speaking the truth.
01:22:01.420 Right.
01:22:02.280 By the way, there's no such thing as formerly male, but okay.
01:22:04.280 You're almost there.
01:22:05.340 Welcome.
01:22:05.940 Welcome to team reason.
01:22:07.380 Here he is.
01:22:08.140 And then my team looked a little bit into Seth Moulin of Massachusetts, courtesy of the
01:22:16.740 hell mag, the hill.com and found the following about this guy.
01:22:21.480 You're not going to believe this.
01:22:23.420 He hasn't just been quiet on the trans issue because he's afraid he's been openly pushing
01:22:33.440 it at every turn.
01:22:35.700 He co-sponsored house Democrats, transgender bill of rights, which among other protections
01:22:42.240 reading here from the hill would guarantee trans athletes, the right would guarantee them
01:22:47.980 the right to participate in girl sports and the sport of the team that matches their so-called
01:22:54.020 gender identity.
01:22:54.720 Moulin voted against the protection of women and girls in sport act, which had sought to
01:23:02.320 change title nine to recognize sex as based solely on person on a person's genetics at
01:23:08.720 birth.
01:23:09.060 That's our side.
01:23:10.060 He voted against it and voted affirmatively for the law that would mandate their entrance
01:23:15.700 into girl sports.
01:23:17.420 Moulin and Tom Sousa's 2024 campaigns were endorsed by the hateful human rights campaign,
01:23:24.380 which I just told you about.
01:23:26.340 And Moulin is a member of the Congressional Equality Caucus, which promotes LGBTQ equality
01:23:32.640 in the House and has condemned Republican led legislation targeting transgender rights, including
01:23:39.820 an effort to prohibit student athletes from competing on sports teams that align with
01:23:45.240 their so-called gender identity.
01:23:47.300 I have one more for you.
01:23:48.940 In March of 2023, he posted on Instagram, this guy, Seth Moulin, with anti-trans bills passing
01:23:55.780 across the U.S.
01:23:56.620 Let me be clear.
01:23:57.860 This kind of hate fuels fear and violence and leads to thousands of suicides every year.
01:24:03.560 That's a lie.
01:24:04.180 We must continue to defend the rights of our transgender brothers, sisters, and friends
01:24:08.700 everywhere.
01:24:10.180 That's the same guy who issued the statement today in the wake of their loss on Tuesday.
01:24:15.860 Democrats spend way too much time trying not to offend anyone rather than being brutally
01:24:19.420 honest about the challenges many Americans face.
01:24:21.740 I have two little girls.
01:24:22.740 I don't want them getting run over on a playing field by a male or formerly male athlete.
01:24:26.880 But as a Democrat, I'm supposed to be afraid to say that.
01:24:29.460 Seth Moulin, go F yourself.
01:24:32.940 You fucking cretin.
01:24:35.300 You created this problem.
01:24:37.300 You put the legislation in place that hurt these little girls.
01:24:42.020 Where is your damned apology?
01:24:44.900 Where is your mea culpa?
01:24:47.060 Where is your come to Jesus moment?
01:24:50.020 I don't give a shit about your paper statement saying, oh, gee, my poor daughters, you screwed
01:24:55.760 them.
01:24:56.740 They're in danger because of you.
01:24:59.200 It's your fault.
01:25:00.420 Get out there and reverse this shit.
01:25:04.360 My God, my potty mouth today.
01:25:06.180 Forgive me.
01:25:06.920 I just can't believe this.
01:25:09.400 This is why it's so wonderful to now watch them suffer.
01:25:13.800 Go down.
01:25:15.520 You're going down.
01:25:16.620 I pray, I hope and pray you soon get voted out of office.
01:25:21.020 I know it doesn't look like it happened this time.
01:25:24.000 I hope I, you know, I look forward to two years from now.
01:25:26.860 And if I don't hear all of that from you, all of it, I am making a pledge to personally
01:25:31.140 make donations to some centrist Democrat.
01:25:34.220 I assume you're from some blue district in which a Republican couldn't win, but I'll
01:25:37.540 look into it and I will actively campaign against you when you have to run again in
01:25:41.440 two years.
01:25:41.860 I will, I will do everything I can to defeat you.
01:25:44.660 Your, your bullshit one-liner is not enough.
01:25:47.920 You're worse than the Joy Reads and the Sonny Hostins.
01:25:51.500 At least they're true believers in this nonsense.
01:25:54.180 You secretly all along were worried about your daughters and then you consciously endangered
01:26:00.200 them so you could get a pat on the head from the human rights campaign.
01:26:03.980 How disgusting are you?
01:26:08.280 Deep breaths.
01:26:09.600 It's a joyous day.
01:26:10.800 It is.
01:26:11.360 It's genuinely a joyous day, but the evil must be held to account.
01:26:15.460 The cowards, this guy who fought in Iraq for us.
01:26:20.120 My team pulled his record.
01:26:22.380 During the 2003 invasion of Iraq, he led one of the first infantry platoons to enter Baghdad.
01:26:28.360 He was awarded the Navy and Marine Corps medal for valor in addition to a bronze star, and
01:26:34.220 he couldn't find his balls enough to protect his children and ours.
01:26:40.920 It's a U.S. congressman with the power to protect all of our daughters or to hurt them.
01:26:46.140 And only now that he's worried about his political ass does he come out with this admission.
01:26:53.420 I just, I can't.
01:26:56.100 I can't.
01:26:57.140 I have to take a break.
01:26:58.880 Yes, I'm taking a break.
01:27:00.380 I'm coming back.
01:27:01.300 Don't go away.
01:27:02.380 There's much, much more.
01:27:03.180 Trump, as it turns out, is not Hitler.
01:27:09.400 We should have led with that.
01:27:10.560 That's an important news piece of news to bring to you.
01:27:15.380 He's not Hitler, as it turns out.
01:27:17.500 Just ask the people who have been telling us he's Hitler and a Nazi and all the fascist
01:27:22.300 things for the past few months.
01:27:24.320 And that would be Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, whose messages about Trump sound dramatically
01:27:29.460 different this week than they did last.
01:27:32.680 I spoke with President-elect Trump and congratulated him on his victory.
01:27:37.300 I also told him that we will help him.
01:27:41.580 I spoke with President-elect Trump to congratulate him on his victory.
01:27:45.280 And I assured him that I'd direct my entire administration to work with his team to ensure
01:27:52.180 a peaceful and orderly transition.
01:27:54.900 Something I hope we can do, no matter who you voted for, is see each other not as adversaries,
01:28:01.600 but as fellow Americans.
01:28:03.860 Bring down the temperature.
01:28:06.080 I also hope we can lay the rest of the question about the integrity of the American electoral
01:28:10.860 system.
01:28:11.320 It is honest, it is fair, and it is transparent.
01:28:17.760 And it can be trusted, win or lose.
01:28:23.020 Okay, so we're going to peacefully transition power to Hitler, who then immediately begin
01:28:30.940 killing you all.
01:28:32.640 He will open up the camps and start unleashing the DOJ on all of you and sending the military
01:28:38.960 to your houses to arrest you if you didn't vote for him.
01:28:43.320 That is what they were, minus the killing all of you, that is what they were saying days ago.
01:28:48.360 You could still measure it in hours.
01:28:50.840 But maybe not so Hitler-y now that we've lost.
01:28:54.820 Okay, just underscoring the absolute bullshit of everything they've been saying.
01:29:01.300 It's a point Charlemagne was making over on his radio show, and he's not wrong.
01:29:05.960 Take a listen.
01:29:06.380 I will say this.
01:29:08.440 I'm glad everybody's having a sense of optimism, because the reality is we have no choice,
01:29:12.060 because we're here now.
01:29:12.900 Donald J. Trump is going to be the 47th president of the United States of America, like it or
01:29:16.620 not.
01:29:16.880 And we all hope for the best for this country.
01:29:18.920 That's all we can do.
01:29:19.780 But don't y'all find it strange that now that he's won, they're not calling him a third
01:29:23.660 to democracy?
01:29:24.740 They're not calling him a fascist?
01:29:26.340 I mean, damn, on Monday.
01:29:27.360 They're not calling him anything.
01:29:28.560 They can't.
01:29:28.700 They can't.
01:29:29.380 On Monday, they was just calling him that.
01:29:30.740 But I would think that, you know, if you really believe that, then somebody's speech would
01:29:34.060 be about how America effed up and how things are about to be really bad.
01:29:38.800 He's the most powerful man in the world now.
01:29:41.780 It just makes you wonder how much of it did they really believe or how much of it was just
01:29:45.720 politics.
01:29:46.180 No.
01:29:47.700 Okay, I'm confused because Charlemagne called him a fascist and forced Kamala Harris to
01:29:52.180 say she thought he was a fascist.
01:29:53.940 Like he demanded.
01:29:54.820 But so which I don't get it.
01:29:56.520 Like you believe it or you don't believe it because you, you said it, you, you pressed
01:30:02.080 her to say it and she said it.
01:30:04.460 And now you're saying you think she just said it to win the election and that her behavior
01:30:08.560 has changed.
01:30:09.080 So what, I mean, you're well aware of that.
01:30:11.280 You know, you just made her say it.
01:30:13.520 Do you believe it?
01:30:14.800 Because you don't sound like you believe it.
01:30:16.100 Like it's, it reminds me of that Ezra Klein clip.
01:30:19.740 He's the God on the left who now they developed like some severe crush on him.
01:30:24.200 He was, he was wrong about almost everything, just FYI.
01:30:27.040 And by the way, with their whole, like, where are we going to find a podcaster like Joe Rogan?
01:30:31.300 He's your God.
01:30:32.660 He's your kale eating scooter riding leftist effete God, um, that he doesn't have the influence
01:30:39.840 of a man's man like Rogan with like the UFC fighting and the hunting and the guns.
01:30:45.200 I'm sorry, but that's not your, your God is not the God.
01:30:50.420 He's just not the God of podcasting.
01:30:52.600 So try harder.
01:30:54.400 Um, he admitted this on his podcast when Joe Biden was spiraling downward and Ezra Klein
01:31:01.740 was one of the people he thought he should be replaced.
01:31:03.700 He admitted this in a pretty interesting moment earlier in this campaign.
01:31:07.320 Listen, you know, it would be quite unpleasant for me personally to come out against the
01:31:12.420 president, um, as a elected official in the Democratic Party and weighing what will happen
01:31:17.100 if Donald Trump wins and saying, you know, in a revealed preference way, I can live with
01:31:22.120 Donald Trump winning.
01:31:23.480 Um, and I've had people say that to me off the record, to be fair.
01:31:27.840 I've had, I've had top Democrats say to me basically something like, I don't know why
01:31:35.500 all these Democrats who think Donald Trump is an existential threat to democracy are acting
01:31:38.900 the way they are.
01:31:39.600 But the reason I'm acting the way I am is because I don't think that, who the fuck is
01:31:43.380 this?
01:31:44.700 Who, I think, how your source is Ezra, I'm in, I'm about to be in leaking text mode over
01:31:49.240 here myself.
01:31:49.820 Like, that is crazy.
01:31:51.100 That was Tim Miller, who I think he's the, he's the fool who interviewed Doug Emhoff among
01:31:58.240 others and didn't ask him about the abuse allegations.
01:32:00.500 He is with the bulwark, not the dispatch.
01:32:07.360 And that is an important distinction because the dispatch, they're not pro-Trump.
01:32:11.020 That's Jonah Goldberg and Steve Hayes, who are decent men who really can't stand Trump,
01:32:17.180 but they're not lunatics and their reporting is solid.
01:32:21.120 The bulwark are the lunatics.
01:32:22.940 They're one step away from the Lincoln project.
01:32:25.620 They've truly, I mean, like severe TDS to the point where you get Doug Emhoff sitting
01:32:30.020 there and you don't ask him about the abuse allegations against him at all.
01:32:33.340 So that was Tim Miller on the receiving end of Ezra Klein's comments saying like, what?
01:32:36.980 Who are, but at least Tim Miller's being kind of consistent, right?
01:32:40.040 He's like, no, he's Hitler.
01:32:41.880 No, what are you saying?
01:32:43.120 They could accept Hitler.
01:32:44.160 You can't accept Hitler.
01:32:45.040 So it's amazing to see that veil come down.
01:32:49.040 I promised you this yesterday.
01:32:50.460 I said, we heard that there was a Lincoln project live feed from election night.
01:32:53.420 It wasn't Lincoln project.
01:32:54.880 It was the bulwark, the crazy Tim Miller, whatever lunatic, never Trump site.
01:33:00.920 And we pulled a little bit of how they took the news on Tuesday.
01:33:03.900 Watch.
01:33:05.120 Let's talk about our feelings for a second.
01:33:06.820 How's there?
01:33:07.580 The New York times just decided to, uh, just decided to publish their needle.
01:33:13.020 You want to know what they've got where the needle's right now?
01:33:16.920 Yeah, sure.
01:33:18.780 They've got Trump at 275 and Harris at 263.
01:33:22.700 Let's see.
01:33:23.480 I'd rather be Trump.
01:33:24.920 Trump is not just gaining in the rurals.
01:33:27.060 He's gaining in Miami, Chicago, New York, Dallas, Houston.
01:33:30.260 None of those are swing states.
01:33:32.600 It's a pretty grim evening, uh, all told.
01:33:35.700 There's no way to, um, kind of, uh, sugarcoat it.
01:33:41.100 Trend lines are bad everywhere.
01:33:43.860 If the present trends continue, that'll be the big story.
01:33:49.640 Uh, whether we have, uh, to use the name of, um, your outfit, whether we have a bulwark
01:33:56.780 for democracy.
01:33:58.920 You know, I read somewhere that this is a, this election actually isn't all that important.
01:34:03.780 Being correct over the next four years is not really going to bring a lot of joy.
01:34:07.200 I will tell you that.
01:34:08.100 Uh, and I'm not going anywhere.
01:34:09.620 I'm fucking not leaving.
01:34:10.840 There is Bill Kristol joining at the last minute, by the way.
01:34:14.700 Okay.
01:34:14.980 Well, good luck.
01:34:15.900 That's fine.
01:34:16.320 You can continue standing for your principles and continue losing.
01:34:20.360 Kids are good.
01:34:21.160 That's fine.
01:34:22.100 How, how did it work out the first time again?
01:34:24.660 Donald Trump lost in 2020 because of COVID because of the most extreme
01:34:28.240 development we'd seen in public health in generations, which sent the world into chaos.
01:34:34.740 And by the way, led to a lot of mail-in balloting.
01:34:36.800 I mean, I'm sorry.
01:34:37.420 I've been one of those who's been mocking the election deniers,
01:34:40.540 but like, how did they have 15 million more votes in 2020 than they've had before or after?
01:34:46.020 I realize we had more because they like to some extent,
01:34:48.520 because the mail-in balloting was easier, but like, it does smell bad.
01:34:51.940 You've got to look at that and say that smells bad.
01:34:53.580 Anyway, fine.
01:34:55.740 You're going to keep losing because you don't have COVID and God willing,
01:35:00.240 you won't have another COVID, uh, during the next term of Donald Trump.
01:35:03.420 And if you continue to double and triple down on these terrible,
01:35:05.820 terrible policies that alienate us all by race and gender,
01:35:10.540 and mutilate children, you will continue to lose.
01:35:14.700 You were supposed to be conservatives.
01:35:16.660 That's how both of those organizations I just mentioned, not to mention Lincoln Project, were born.
01:35:20.700 Disaffected conservatives who didn't like Trump, but still were conservative.
01:35:23.640 How do you support this border?
01:35:26.600 How do you support what's happening to the working class?
01:35:28.860 They don't give a shit.
01:35:30.520 Their TDS has driven them so insane.
01:35:33.320 They'll sell every value they have up the river.
01:35:35.620 That's what happened to Liz Cheney.
01:35:36.760 That's why she's out there, supposedly deeply pro-life person, telling us we should vote for Kamala Harris.
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01:36:42.980 All right, so you might be asking yourself, what is the left's plan then?
01:36:49.700 If they can't even admit or agree on what the cause of their massive losses was,
01:36:55.300 how are they going to agree on a solution?
01:36:58.440 Well, perhaps they'll look to their leader, Rachel Maddow,
01:37:02.620 missed $30 million a year for one hour of television a week.
01:37:09.020 She only does one show on Mondays.
01:37:12.320 She's found the solution.
01:37:14.320 Here it is.
01:37:15.820 Not to be boring here for a second, but just getting very real.
01:37:19.520 Well, we now are just another one in the list of countries that has decided to, you know,
01:37:28.540 hey, what the heck?
01:37:29.660 Let's try the strongman thing.
01:37:31.480 There are many more countries in the world governed by that kind of a system than there
01:37:34.600 are governed by ours.
01:37:36.040 We are the only 248-year-old multiracial, pluralistic democracy in the world.
01:37:41.340 And shall we keep it?
01:37:42.620 A lot of our fellow Americans say we shouldn't.
01:37:47.520 See, what they really don't want is for those tens of millions of Americans to wake up tomorrow
01:37:52.660 feeling scrappy as hell.
01:37:54.620 So now we can work full time on being freaking pirates, on being a thorn in the side to anyone
01:38:01.440 who now intends to try to turn this country into some tin pot tyranny.
01:38:06.800 Hope you are feeling scrappy.
01:38:08.460 Hope you are tapping into your inner pirate energy, because it is one thing to be a defender
01:38:15.180 of the realm.
01:38:16.440 It is another thing to be in opposition.
01:38:18.780 And opposition can be a lot of things.
01:38:20.360 It can be dangerous.
01:38:21.900 It can also be fun.
01:38:24.620 It would have been nice to win the election.
01:38:27.260 Didn't.
01:38:28.300 Okay.
01:38:30.320 Time to save the country.
01:38:32.700 Oh, my God.
01:38:35.360 She is stomach turning, isn't she?
01:38:39.180 It could be.
01:38:39.940 You're in danger.
01:38:41.220 What are you going to do with your 10 houses and your tens of millions?
01:38:44.080 My God.
01:38:45.140 You better start preparing.
01:38:46.960 You should start getting the medication kits and the food right now.
01:38:49.400 Store away.
01:38:50.180 Trump is coming for you, Rachel.
01:38:53.140 She could be fun.
01:38:54.840 Could be fun.
01:38:55.840 Oh, yeah.
01:38:56.420 Who would ever know what it's like for MSNBC to be in the opposition?
01:38:59.340 Oh, wait.
01:39:00.300 Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.
01:39:03.000 We know your trick, Madam Pirate, when you're in the opposition, your nobility and your efforts
01:39:10.840 to save the country.
01:39:12.080 You fucking lie.
01:39:13.440 That's what you do.
01:39:14.320 You lie every day.
01:39:15.420 And then you play the victim.
01:39:17.260 What a ridiculous person.
01:39:19.500 She is such a great example of what happens to these media people.
01:39:23.220 I've actually asked myself, like, why didn't this happen to me?
01:39:26.960 Maybe it did.
01:39:28.320 Maybe it did.
01:39:29.200 Why didn't, when I actually started to earn money as a media person, did I not lose complete
01:39:36.120 connection with my audience and my roots?
01:39:39.840 I just didn't.
01:39:40.920 I don't come from a rich family at all, as you've heard me say.
01:39:44.760 I actually do come from a middle-class family.
01:39:47.660 My dad was a professor, first at Syracuse University, and then at SUNY Albany, and my
01:39:53.080 mom was a nurse.
01:39:54.180 So I don't know what that makes us, but we didn't have a lot of money.
01:39:56.920 They had three kids, and they put us through college, and it was great.
01:39:59.740 And my dad died when I was young, and then my mom used his insurance money to help me go
01:40:03.740 to college.
01:40:04.660 So I don't, we were not rich.
01:40:06.300 We were not poor, but we were not rich.
01:40:07.780 And as I told you before, I spent every summer going through my mom's sprinkler in the backyard
01:40:13.660 or at my Nana's very run-down but sweet boatyard on the Hudson River in Rockland County, where
01:40:21.740 I most of the time was in the back making mud pies for fun.
01:40:26.200 It was not, it was not rich in the sense we use that word today, but it was rich in all
01:40:30.780 the other ways.
01:40:31.520 It was some of the happiest times of my life.
01:40:33.740 Those are the people I relate to.
01:40:36.420 Those are the people I still surround myself with.
01:40:39.260 Those are the people I make an effort to make sure my children are with often.
01:40:43.680 We spend our summers at the Jersey Shore so that my kids will not grow up in only these
01:40:48.240 elite rich circles.
01:40:49.440 Like I confess, I live in now.
01:40:51.020 It's fine.
01:40:51.340 There are a lot of lovely people who are my dearest friends, but I'm just saying they
01:40:54.480 need exposure to real America and not just privilege.
01:40:58.800 Rachel Maddow doesn't know any of that.
01:41:00.980 She doesn't know any of that.
01:41:02.620 She's made so much money.
01:41:04.160 She's lost her tether to real people.
01:41:08.920 She thinks the whole world is the New York times.
01:41:11.360 And speaking of the New York times, but before I get to the New York times, I would say I
01:41:15.880 almost did.
01:41:16.960 Sometimes I think that I had risen to the top at Fox and that I was starting to believe
01:41:23.420 like my own press, you know, maybe that's what happened with the whole realignment.
01:41:29.040 Maybe that's what led me to like ultimately go to NBC and have such a disastrous ride
01:41:36.140 there because I needed to be knocked down.
01:41:39.100 Do you know what I mean?
01:41:39.720 Sometimes the Lord knows better for you what you need than you know, and you get knocked
01:41:43.720 down and then you're at a crossroads.
01:41:46.000 You have a decision to make.
01:41:46.780 Who am I?
01:41:48.180 What do I actually believe in?
01:41:49.540 It's very helpful to have a realignment like that, to have almost like a false God, this
01:41:56.260 like peaceful existence.
01:41:57.400 I was going to have on the left, not doing policy politics.
01:42:00.100 That was my goal in going to NBC.
01:42:01.780 And then the left shows me who they really are over there.
01:42:04.220 When my own politics inevitably came out over and over while I was on NBC defending a Brett
01:42:09.140 Kavanaugh and so on, just a reminder of who you really are and what your value system is.
01:42:14.020 Anyway, that's neither here nor there.
01:42:16.260 But speaking of the New York Times and who Rachel Maddow surrounds herself with and who
01:42:21.740 she reads every day to lead her so, to be so out of touch, she thinks she's a pirate.
01:42:27.760 It's going to be fun to be in the opposition.
01:42:29.820 And she doesn't believe because of this election that we have a multiracial, pluralistic democracy.
01:42:36.720 Forgive me if you missed it, but it's very multiracial, pluralistic group over on Team
01:42:42.580 Trump.
01:42:43.360 We've had blacks voting for Trump in levels we've never seen before, or at least since
01:42:47.720 the late 80s for a Republican.
01:42:49.440 We saw Hispanics voting for him.
01:42:51.280 Almost 50% of Hispanics in the country voted for Donald Trump, not to mention working class
01:42:57.320 voters and yes, some rich people too.
01:42:59.820 Um, kind of pluralistic, those around him, half of them voting for him and running with
01:43:04.860 him are Democrats.
01:43:06.220 Elon was a double Barack Obama voter.
01:43:09.200 RFKJ is still a Democrat.
01:43:11.300 Tulsi Gabbard was a Democrat who ran for president under the Democratic ticket four years ago.
01:43:16.800 Now she's a Republican because of the lunacy.
01:43:18.920 But who are you kidding that this is not a pluralistic group that just got elected?
01:43:24.240 And by the way, Trump was a Democrat for most of his life too.
01:43:26.500 Hello.
01:43:26.720 We put together this montage of these New York Times opinion writers who thought it might
01:43:33.340 be good to, after the election, this was put together on Wednesday, not Monday, warn
01:43:40.340 us what's coming under the regime of Donald Trump.
01:43:43.280 The worst possibilities.
01:43:44.680 This is like styled under one day we'll do the worst and the next day we'll do the best.
01:43:47.940 And the ones that they dropped today, which is absolutely pathetic.
01:43:50.200 It was like, well, I can't really think of anything.
01:43:51.940 Maybe this, but when he leaves, that'll be, anyway, here's some of their worst predictions.
01:43:57.160 Rachel's friends.
01:43:59.600 And it is not only extremist, but also effective in that extremism.
01:44:04.160 Emboldened by a series of Supreme Court rulings, um, you know, perhaps bolstered by support in
01:44:10.100 both houses of Congress, um, you know, Trump will fulfill his promise to be a dictator on day one.
01:44:15.680 He sends troops into neighborhoods like my own to try to round up undocumented immigrants,
01:44:24.500 that he sets up a network of camps.
01:44:28.060 Mass deportations.
01:44:29.400 It would likely plunge the United States into something like a recession.
01:44:32.780 His tariffs, likewise, promise to spike prices for most Americans and cause costs to go up dramatically.
01:44:39.680 That version of Trump could result in abandoning Ukraine to advancing Russian armies could result
01:44:46.320 in extraordinarily erratic foreign policy in the Middle East.
01:44:49.260 I mean, Donald Trump often talked about things like bombing Mexico to deal with drug cartels.
01:44:53.240 People stopped him from doing that.
01:44:54.940 But there's not going to be any adults in the room this time.
01:44:58.040 The worst version of a Trump administration seeks, uh, various forms of retribution against
01:45:03.500 Trump's enemies, real and, uh, perceived.
01:45:06.540 Okay, so that you got a little preview there of what you're going to be reading in the New
01:45:11.460 York times as we head into the, they're totally open-minded.
01:45:13.800 I'm sure the times is going to do a one 80 to try to reach out to the disaffected middle.
01:45:17.560 That's already rejected them.
01:45:18.720 Okay.
01:45:19.180 You get the picture.
01:45:21.840 These people, Rachel and the others, the dispatch, sorry, the bulwark people are basically the
01:45:27.700 on-air version of what we're seeing online in reacting to the Trump win.
01:45:32.840 This, there's a couple that take the place, but this woman in number 37 on TikTok, she speaks
01:45:41.240 for a large amount of the very angry left.
01:45:44.680 This type of messaging is all over TikTok and Instagram today.
01:45:50.040 Take a listen.
01:45:50.560 I took the morning to grieve.
01:45:53.320 That's all the time we have.
01:45:54.560 Now is your time to start making a plan.
01:45:56.300 Women, I'm here to talk to you today.
01:45:58.160 The first thing you're going to do is you're going to delete your period tracking app.
01:46:00.940 I don't care what state you're in.
01:46:02.380 The next thing you're going to do is you're going to follow creators like Jessica Valenti.
01:46:05.800 She talks about abortion in her newsletter, Abortion Every Day.
01:46:10.080 She is a godsend.
01:46:11.340 I don't know how she does it.
01:46:12.880 You're going to get the pill.
01:46:13.820 You're going to get the, the implant in your arm.
01:46:16.660 You're going to get the IUD.
01:46:18.160 You're going to get your tubes tied for your safety is to not get pregnant right now.
01:46:22.900 I am not going to get pregnant right now, even though I would love to have a family one
01:46:26.520 day.
01:46:27.020 That dream just went out the window forever, unless I moved to another country.
01:46:31.400 If you and your male partner voted differently this election, if he voted for that man, you
01:46:37.360 need to leave him.
01:46:38.520 You need to leave him.
01:46:39.520 I'm sorry.
01:46:40.560 I'm sorry.
01:46:41.260 You need to leave him.
01:46:41.900 I know you love him.
01:46:43.180 I know you love him.
01:46:44.080 I know you think he's going to change.
01:46:45.240 I know you think he just doesn't understand your problems.
01:46:47.600 I know that you think he's more concerned about the economy, but especially if you're
01:46:51.000 married to him, you are in danger right now.
01:46:53.540 You are in a lot of danger.
01:46:55.280 Speaking of marriage, I wouldn't get married right now.
01:46:58.900 I don't think you have to worry.
01:47:00.220 If you do get a, get a, a really, really strong prenup, but I can't promise you that
01:47:08.800 that's going to be honored.
01:47:09.800 Be prepared so that you don't have to panic.
01:47:11.860 I can't really speak on the experience of people of color, of people who are LGBTQ.
01:47:17.920 You guys all need to be making your own plans as well.
01:47:21.280 Everyone needs to be making a plan depending on which category you're in, because they're
01:47:25.060 putting us in categories now.
01:47:28.020 They're putting us in categories.
01:47:29.880 The Trump administration.
01:47:30.940 Yes, they're all about the categories.
01:47:32.300 Unlike the left with their BIPOC and their LGBTQ and okay.
01:47:39.320 That's an insane person.
01:47:40.800 They're everywhere.
01:47:41.560 I don't know what happened.
01:47:42.620 Is that a COVID hangover that the woman has of insanity?
01:47:45.880 Is she's had like an SSRI cocktail that went wrong, but this is like, she's not alone.
01:47:51.600 Would you listen to the number of absolutely insane things that were in that woman's diatribe?
01:47:56.500 You have to, you've got to get the pill, the insert in your arm, like ASAP.
01:48:02.560 You have to delete your period tracker app because Trump and JD Vance are going to be
01:48:07.140 on there.
01:48:07.720 Ah, she's fertile.
01:48:09.600 Ah, it's two weeks after she was fertile.
01:48:11.680 Somebody get in there and check her womb.
01:48:13.280 Make sure she carries that baby to term.
01:48:16.840 Okay.
01:48:18.400 Don't get married at all.
01:48:20.240 Clearly not a concern for her.
01:48:21.780 Um, and if you are married, you should divorce your husband, divorce your husband.
01:48:27.000 If you voted for Trump, um, you're not safe.
01:48:30.000 She, she said, leave your spouse, uh, and get your tubes tied.
01:48:34.340 Get actually never have children, which in her case may be a very good idea.
01:48:38.820 I mean, truly I'm not like, it's not nice, but I really feel that way.
01:48:42.260 This woman should not reproduce.
01:48:43.940 It's not a concern, but, um, what kind of a person gets online to tell everybody not to
01:48:48.760 get married, to divorce their spouses.
01:48:50.140 If they are married to take birth control, nonstop, to make sure that they have all sorts
01:48:54.260 of medications ready to go because the government's going to be monitoring them.
01:48:57.060 Like, and then, and then you have the, the leftist who lost this election lamenting how
01:49:02.780 the right wing is spreading disinformation.
01:49:05.360 I mean, she's not alone.
01:49:08.520 There is this mom who she might divorce her husband for all I know, because she did something
01:49:14.700 very irresponsible, which we've seen a lot of leftists do.
01:49:17.020 But she dragged her kids into it.
01:49:19.920 Let me tell you something back when Trump won in 16, I was not rooting for him.
01:49:24.260 I was angry with him at the time.
01:49:25.940 I did not share any of that with my children.
01:49:28.080 I didn't want, did not want my children to have to think about politics at their young,
01:49:31.760 tender ages back then.
01:49:33.220 And I never let them know that I had personally negative feelings about him.
01:49:37.380 And I understood all along that he could win.
01:49:39.380 And the last thing I wanted was for any sort of political upset.
01:49:42.840 I might've been feeling to be shared with my children.
01:49:45.780 I know that that is how the vast majority of American parents behave.
01:49:50.200 I was not in the minority, but this lunatic on the left, there, there are lots of her because
01:49:56.140 we have seen this trend to trying to share your neuroses with your children, which of course
01:50:02.320 has the sad effect of passing them on.
01:50:04.280 Watch.
01:50:10.680 Harris did not win.
01:50:16.040 Trump.
01:50:20.560 So we're, I'm.
01:50:24.940 Take a breath.
01:50:26.120 Yep.
01:50:27.200 Oh my God.
01:50:28.020 So today may look a little different at school.
01:50:32.980 Okay.
01:50:33.420 They're probably going to be friends who have questions.
01:50:38.460 Right.
01:50:40.420 Um, I'm sure your teachers are going to.
01:50:45.300 How could this happen?
01:50:48.280 Can you check?
01:50:49.880 I'm very sad.
01:50:52.380 And now you're crying.
01:50:53.480 That's child abuse.
01:50:59.920 She's an abuser working out her own bizarre mental issues through her kids is abuse.
01:51:07.540 She, she cares more about her politics than she does about her children.
01:51:12.620 She intentionally upset them.
01:51:15.860 Who doesn't know how to handle a child in that situation?
01:51:19.560 Even if you're upset, it's, I mean, even if you're on the airplane and you think that
01:51:23.680 there's a serious problem, you tell the kid it's fine.
01:51:26.680 You don't say to the kid, I'm deeply upset.
01:51:29.720 This thing's going down.
01:51:31.260 What kind of a shit parent is that?
01:51:34.040 This is just like, people are deranged.
01:51:36.240 Not everybody should have kids back to lady one.
01:51:38.660 She's starting to talk me into it.
01:51:40.260 Maybe you should delete your period app and get the thing in your arm and don't have sex
01:51:43.900 and get rid of your husband.
01:51:45.000 Maybe you should.
01:51:45.640 If you think like these people think she's right, be an incel.
01:51:49.860 Don't reproduce.
01:51:50.920 Not everybody's fit to be a parent.
01:51:53.120 This is just so wrong.
01:51:55.840 You know, I just, okay.
01:51:57.240 We have to stop because you've seen all these colleges cancel classes in the wake of Trump's
01:52:02.460 victory.
01:52:03.960 I, we talked earlier in the week about, uh, Fieldston ethical culture in New York city.
01:52:07.920 They are not alone.
01:52:08.660 Happened a lot of colleges to all these professors saying classes, cancel classes, canceled.
01:52:12.380 I don't have a list in front of me, but there were a lot of them.
01:52:14.980 Our school sent out a memo saying you will show up, you will teach, and you will not share
01:52:18.760 your politics with the children right on, right on, sir.
01:52:23.980 Um, they're not, as I say, alone in the Democrat party.
01:52:29.440 Their leaders, um, in terms of who, who is at the top in, um, American celebrity culture
01:52:37.200 and so on are just as upset and just as gone.
01:52:41.160 Madonna decided to put out an F Trump cake and eat it and had a bunch of expletives that
01:52:52.020 she wanted to share with us about how dangerous he is and how bad he is.
01:52:55.940 Stuffed my face with this cake last night.
01:52:58.260 F Trump.
01:52:58.840 Uh, all right, girl power.
01:53:02.240 Is that, is that your solution?
01:53:05.180 Okay.
01:53:05.460 So, so far we have be a pirate, divorce your husband and eat a cake that says F Trump.
01:53:12.800 Any other ideas to somebody else?
01:53:14.680 Let's see.
01:53:15.100 Let's check in with Kathy Griffin and see how she's doing.
01:53:17.640 So now we're paying the price and freedom isn't free and we've been free and technically
01:53:27.920 we're still a democracy.
01:53:29.660 Gays, you may not be safe.
01:53:32.300 So to be gay in America, much less trans, because they're obsessed with trans people, to be LGBT
01:53:38.400 in America is not going to be a safe thing anymore.
01:53:42.480 So to be a woman in America will be even less safe than it already is.
01:53:50.160 I, I know this will get me in trouble, but I really, really wish Taylor Swift had done
01:53:55.520 an event with Vice President Harris in Pennsylvania, did not realize how racist and misogynistic
01:54:06.800 America still is.
01:54:09.740 Oh my God.
01:54:11.380 She's so dumb.
01:54:12.300 She still thinks Taylor Swift is the answer.
01:54:14.960 Taylor Swift would not have saved you, Kathy.
01:54:19.660 She has no power.
01:54:21.880 She has power to make little girls buy albums.
01:54:25.520 That's it.
01:54:27.040 She does.
01:54:27.960 She couldn't have gotten this done just like Beyonce didn't get it done.
01:54:31.780 Just like Beyonce, who actually did campaign for Hillary and played songs on like this time
01:54:36.040 around, couldn't get it done.
01:54:37.660 Just like Michelle and Barack Obama, the biggest stars on team blue, couldn't get it done.
01:54:43.220 Oprah couldn't get it done.
01:54:44.540 None of these.
01:54:45.680 You have to change your insane politics and messaging and cultural behavior.
01:54:52.380 If you're, if you ever want to win an election again, the answer you dumb ass is not Taylor
01:54:58.400 Swift.
01:54:58.740 Let's check in with Rosie O'Donnell.
01:55:00.980 Somebody should do a wellness check.
01:55:02.400 Obviously, she's got to be upset.
01:55:03.960 Let's, let's hear what she has to say about what happened.
01:55:05.900 For yourself, call your friends, check on him and get ready because we're in for one hell
01:55:15.060 of a ride with him at the helm and no immunity guardrails.
01:55:22.700 Okay.
01:55:23.800 We get rid of the electoral college.
01:55:27.680 Is that anybody like that?
01:55:31.540 Anyone?
01:55:32.340 I'm not so sure anymore.
01:55:33.240 It's a popular vote.
01:55:36.940 That's what we need to do.
01:55:38.380 Oh my God.
01:55:39.300 Gets the most votes wins.
01:55:41.180 One vote, one person.
01:55:45.500 No racist math in the equation.
01:55:48.700 Okay.
01:55:52.680 She doesn't know he won the popular vote.
01:55:57.740 She doesn't know.
01:55:58.840 She, she decided to take the time to go on online, do her a little bit without doing like
01:56:06.820 a simple Google search.
01:56:08.040 Is there anybody in the country who doesn't know he won the popular vote too?
01:56:10.600 It's been a very big story.
01:56:12.260 She used to sit on what's supposed to be a news analysis program every day.
01:56:16.760 Okay.
01:56:17.760 Why don't we try that?
01:56:18.700 Oh wait, that won't help you either.
01:56:20.580 He won that too.
01:56:22.120 And guess who helped put him over the edge?
01:56:23.660 A bunch of women.
01:56:24.480 And the women you tried to scare with the abortion lies.
01:56:28.960 That's great.
01:56:29.800 I mean, that's like, talk about misinformation.
01:56:31.440 What are we going to do about that misinformation?
01:56:33.500 Oh, this is tough.
01:56:34.500 So we're going to have to crack down on it.
01:56:37.240 Okay.
01:56:38.480 One other thing.
01:56:39.800 Yesterday we did our biggest losers of campaign 2024.
01:56:43.400 And today we have part two of our biggest losers list.
01:56:48.560 There were so many to get to late in the show.
01:56:51.220 I added Joe Scarborough and that's worthy of going back and listening to because he's
01:56:55.280 absolutely one of them.
01:56:56.720 Zero credibility left.
01:56:58.040 None.
01:56:59.180 Um, but how could I have forgotten these guys, white dudes for Harris.
01:57:06.720 Women's freedom is exhibit a after Donald Trump demolished the right to choose.
01:57:11.320 But of course, men are also more free in a country where we have a president who stands
01:57:17.920 up for things like access to abortion care.
01:57:20.300 What a variety of whiteness we have here.
01:57:24.740 We got the dude, we got Pete.
01:57:26.460 It's like a rainbow of, uh, of beige.
01:57:30.300 Kamala is carrying on her shoulders 248 years of pain, of agony, of hope, of frustration.
01:57:36.080 I know that we have a lot of speakers, uh, and afterward, of course, there's another zoom
01:57:42.080 that I invite you all to called couches against Trump, better known as cats.
01:57:48.000 And JD Vance is his mini me.
01:57:51.560 I even created my own cognitive test that describes the two of them.
01:57:56.740 Sofa, dolphin, shark, cats, convict.
01:58:01.080 Okay, governor Pritzker, why don't you go back to Illinois and work on transing some
01:58:07.880 more kids since that seems to be your family's life mission.
01:58:11.140 Okay.
01:58:11.680 That's you wonder who's behind all the trans messaging, the Pritzker family.
01:58:16.540 We did a whole episode about it.
01:58:18.920 Why don't you worry more about that than your weird acronyms that got you nowhere?
01:58:24.060 Shockingly.
01:58:24.580 What the hell was he saying?
01:58:25.420 Does anybody follow?
01:58:26.260 I have Bradley Whitford.
01:58:28.020 He, he starred on the West wing and he thinks he's actually like a political operative.
01:58:33.500 You were playing a role, sir.
01:58:36.040 You, you learned nothing about actual politics.
01:58:38.800 You make that clear with all of your commentary, a rainbow of beige, um, big, big losers, not
01:58:47.020 quite as big as the, I don't know.
01:58:50.540 What part was she, was she a white lady, white women for Kamala?
01:58:53.840 Remember, I mean, like speaking of dividing us into groups.
01:58:56.620 Yeah.
01:58:57.460 Who could forget the most annoying person of campaign 2024?
01:59:02.380 Ariel.
01:59:04.700 As white women, we need to use our privilege to make positive changes.
01:59:09.600 If you find yourself talking over or speaking for BIPOC individuals or God forbid, correcting
01:59:16.040 them, just take a beat.
01:59:17.920 And instead we can put our listening ears on.
01:59:19.940 So do learn from and amplify the voices of those who have been historically marginalized
01:59:26.200 and use the privilege you have in order to push for a systemic change.
01:59:31.920 As white people, we have a lot to learn and unlearn.
01:59:36.680 So do check your blind spots.
01:59:39.500 I've got my listening ears on, Ariel.
01:59:43.900 And what I heard was a deafening roar from the working class Americans who are over you
01:59:49.260 and your bullshit.
01:59:50.880 Can you, this, how are they going to excise that?
01:59:58.160 They, they put her on.
01:59:59.600 This was like one of the big first Zoom calls for Kamala Harris after the coup.
02:00:04.180 And this was the message, like they chose to put this person on and give her a forum and
02:00:09.400 thought that was great messaging.
02:00:10.860 I mean, good luck explaining to Ariel that we're no longer going to be doing that, that
02:00:15.580 we're, we're going to stop with the BIPOC, CRT, trans insanity.
02:00:19.620 Like I can't wait to watch it unfold.
02:00:22.760 I wish you all the luck in the world.
02:00:24.720 You're going to need it.
02:00:26.280 The other big losers, big losers, the ridiculous, obviously partisan pollsters, including this
02:00:34.160 guy, Alan Lickman, Alan Lickman is the guy who was touted as having gotten all the presidential
02:00:41.380 races, right.
02:00:42.820 Um, all the way going back, I don't know how many years, 20 plus years, he only got one
02:00:48.740 wrong and it was Bush V Gore.
02:00:50.200 And that one was only decided by the Supreme court after like 500 votes divided the two
02:00:53.600 men.
02:00:53.780 So you could forgive him.
02:00:54.580 So they really touted him as being the Nostradamus of predicting presidential elections.
02:00:59.520 He has 13 keys and he just keeps plugging them into every race.
02:01:03.420 And if the keys come up a certain way, he just goes with that person's name, supposedly
02:01:07.880 irrespective of his own partisan politics.
02:01:10.720 And he said it was going to be Harris.
02:01:13.400 And some people like Nate Silver said, I used your same keys just for fun.
02:01:17.780 And they don't predict a Harris win.
02:01:19.140 They actually predict a Trump win.
02:01:20.640 And Alan got very upset and was given a forum all over cable news because they all needed
02:01:26.920 to be told that Kamala was going to win.
02:01:28.480 She's going to win.
02:01:29.020 She's going to win.
02:01:29.520 Don't, don't worry.
02:01:30.240 And so I'm going to play two soundbites from him.
02:01:33.640 Here's the one right after she, she lost.
02:01:37.460 It's not 13.
02:01:39.200 Look, my prediction for this presidential election was wrong.
02:01:43.600 I own up to it right now.
02:01:45.440 I am taking time off today, Wednesday through my live show Thursday.
02:01:51.060 My aim is to assess why the keys were wrong and what we can learn from this era and what
02:01:58.900 the election means for the future of our country going forward.
02:02:05.460 Well, he took his time off.
02:02:07.060 He did his assessment and he has come back with the following piece of analysis.
02:02:11.280 Look.
02:02:11.460 Do you think the issue is that Trump is beyond the keys and Trump changed the locks?
02:02:18.780 I think that's a little too, too glib.
02:02:23.380 It's not just Trump.
02:02:25.220 Trump lipped out tomorrow.
02:02:26.980 Nothing much would change.
02:02:28.380 It's the deeper forces that I outlined of deception, racism, misogyny, xenophobia, which
02:02:36.080 are by no means limited to Trump.
02:02:37.860 Speaking of xenophobia, racism, did we get a Senate result in Arizona, Sam?
02:02:45.540 It's that horrible woman lose.
02:02:47.380 It's not.
02:02:47.980 It's not been called yet.
02:02:49.540 But Ruben Gallego is up.
02:02:54.580 That's your nonpartisan analysis that you've been seeing all over the airwaves.
02:02:59.460 Correct on every election since 1984, except for that one.
02:03:03.360 That's him.
02:03:04.560 He wasn't really wrong.
02:03:06.020 The keys are perfect.
02:03:06.920 It's just our racism and misogyny that trumped them this time around.
02:03:10.940 Great job, Alan.
02:03:12.140 You completely effed yourself.
02:03:13.420 You have zero credibility left.
02:03:15.040 And you are officially a biggest loser of 2024.
02:03:18.580 How could I forget the media?
02:03:21.320 And some specific players deserve a specific call out.
02:03:25.100 Dana Bash of CNN.
02:03:27.840 You know, you were on the right track.
02:03:30.400 You co-hosted that one debate between Trump and Biden with Jake Tapper.
02:03:34.800 And you asked relatively anodyne questions.
02:03:38.120 Really, you weren't the story that night because Joe Biden's mental meltdown was.
02:03:42.140 But you had made it.
02:03:43.460 You had made it through that first debate unscathed.
02:03:45.700 And then you got the first sit down with Kamala Harris and Tim Walls.
02:03:49.960 And you completely crapped the bed.
02:03:52.880 You didn't ask any challenging questions.
02:03:56.020 You were a supplicant in that interview.
02:03:58.720 You let her get away with saying she had held her, no, I'm not in favor of banning fracking nonsense.
02:04:06.400 And I've said that since 2020.
02:04:09.580 You let her get away with it.
02:04:11.460 She did not reverse her favor of a fracking ban in 2020.
02:04:15.440 She had gone on stage in a vice presidential debate at the time and said she would support Joe Biden's policy of not banning fracking.
02:04:24.200 That is not the same.
02:04:25.820 You didn't push her on that at all.
02:04:27.420 You let her cling to her emotional security white blanket next to her, her emotional security support governor.
02:04:33.640 You didn't ask him any hard questions.
02:04:36.320 And you completely set the tone for the media giving them a hard pass on any questions.
02:04:42.440 To their credit, only 60 minutes with their mild-mannered reporter asking a few hard questions about the border would start at least a mild trend of asking a few tough questions.
02:04:53.600 But it would take six weeks.
02:04:56.340 You blew it.
02:04:56.760 You are one of my biggest losers.
02:04:59.120 Margaret Brennan over at CBS.
02:05:01.760 Yes, you did not acquit yourself well, sister, in this election.
02:05:05.060 You were one of the co-hosts of that vice presidential debate.
02:05:07.600 And you were the one who kept trying to fact check J.D. Vance falsely and then cut his mic when he tried to correct your crappy fact check about what was happening down on the Joe Biden border.
02:05:21.600 You tried.
02:05:22.480 You played.
02:05:23.280 You lost, madam.
02:05:24.180 Your co-host, Dora O'Donnell, was not much better at the debate, but she was a little better.
02:05:29.420 And then she resumed her post on the CBS Evening News and her hard partisan coverage of said news.
02:05:36.320 Every night in the week leading up to the presidential election, she got more and more rabid in the way she would open the show and frame what Trump was doing versus what Kamala Harris was doing.
02:05:48.660 The examples were legion.
02:05:50.060 They went completely viral.
02:05:51.340 Both of you have sacrificed your credibility, at least whatever was left of it.
02:05:56.800 And most of us are enjoying that.
02:05:58.280 While we're on the media, ABC News, I mean, we all watched the debate between Kamala Harris and President Trump and President Trump and David Muir and Lizzie Davis, his other two adversaries.
02:06:13.860 Was there ever a more biased showing in a debate by the moderators?
02:06:19.940 The so-called fact checking, which I mean, by my count, at least nine out of 10 or four to five, however many they did, were false.
02:06:27.540 They kept interrupting him.
02:06:28.880 Remember David Muir?
02:06:30.540 Well, it didn't sound sarcastic to me.
02:06:33.240 What?
02:06:33.920 Mr.
02:06:34.400 I am king of all emotions and I can read exactly.
02:06:36.640 Those two huge losers, ABC News was rated the most biased in its evening news coverage of this entire race by the Media Research Center and they know of what they speak.
02:06:49.460 And then there's my friend Mark Cuban.
02:06:52.580 Oh, Mark.
02:06:53.740 People are pointing out online that he's looking an awful lot like Rachel Maddow.
02:06:57.360 They're not wrong.
02:06:58.680 It's not a good thing, Mark.
02:07:00.080 It's time to reevaluate your look.
02:07:01.660 You've got a lot of money.
02:07:02.860 You could go to a good hairstylist.
02:07:04.280 You don't have to wear like the big liberal glasses, the huge dark glasses that they're all wearing now to lecture us.
02:07:11.380 In fact, apropos of those two sad ladies we were showing you, the one crying with her kids and the other saying divorce your husband.
02:07:17.380 Somebody got on Twitter or TikTok and did like a mocking bit of these leftist meltdowns.
02:07:22.240 We've got to show this lady.
02:07:23.240 Look.
02:07:24.520 OK, I'm going to guide you through.
02:07:26.060 Now, shave the hair.
02:07:27.900 Glasses.
02:07:28.260 I don't know where you get these big glasses, but we all have them.
02:07:30.480 So if you want to be one of us, you've got to find these somewhere in the store.
02:07:32.640 I've never I don't know where I got these, but everybody's got the septum piercing.
02:07:36.640 Get that right away.
02:07:37.600 For some reason that that unites us.
02:07:39.340 The passport.
02:07:40.000 Get your passport.
02:07:40.840 You're going to need it.
02:07:42.040 Plan B.
02:07:42.960 Pharmacy.
02:07:43.360 Right away.
02:07:43.640 You've got to go to your pharmacy and get your plan B.
02:07:45.920 And most importantly, you can't wear a bra ever again.
02:07:50.020 OK, there's this.
02:07:51.200 You've got to do this.
02:07:54.000 You've got to tape that baby up.
02:07:55.960 You've got to tape it up.
02:07:56.960 Oh, I'm going to tell you the blue bracelet.
02:08:00.380 Don't forget the blue bracelet.
02:08:02.160 Don't forget the blue bracelet so we know who we are.
02:08:06.140 OK, I don't know where to get these glasses.
02:08:08.620 We all have them, but I can't tell you where to get them.
02:08:10.820 I don't know.
02:08:11.900 But I'm going to get some duct tape.
02:08:15.020 I don't have any duct tape right now.
02:08:16.560 I only had the bag tape, but I'm getting the duct tape.
02:08:18.820 I mean, that's like one step away from Mark Cuban right now.
02:08:23.820 She's not wrong.
02:08:24.760 It was well done by this woman.
02:08:25.980 The blue bracelet is apparently their secret way of showing each other that they voted for
02:08:29.480 Kamala.
02:08:29.920 They're team blue.
02:08:30.980 They're in the resistance.
02:08:32.060 They're pirates, just like Rachel.
02:08:34.380 So, OK, how will we ever figure it out?
02:08:36.660 Oh, you know what?
02:08:37.480 I have news for you.
02:08:38.180 We didn't need your bracelet here.
02:08:39.580 Your duct tape over your vag was enough for us to tell.
02:08:43.900 Who did?
02:08:44.580 Like, it's amazing.
02:08:46.020 So, Mark Cuban, you were a huge loser.
02:08:48.480 Not only because you threw it all in for Kamala Harris, but because you made the disastrous
02:08:52.620 mistake of saying there were no smart, intelligent or strong, intelligent women who supported Donald
02:08:58.800 Trump, and they showed up in droves on Tuesday to prove just how wrong you were.
02:09:05.800 So, suck it.
02:09:07.540 OK, on the winner list, yes, obviously, DT.
02:09:12.940 Donald Trump is the biggest winner of all, the greatest comeback of all time, the greatest
02:09:16.380 political run, the greatest political story of all time, so much winning.
02:09:20.940 He's actually correct about that prediction he made long ago.
02:09:23.920 But we've got to spend one minute.
02:09:25.620 This is where I'm going to close out the show on J.D. Vance.
02:09:29.920 I'm so proud of the guy.
02:09:31.280 He's been so on point.
02:09:32.840 He took so much shit when he was named, especially when they did the switcheroo on the Dem side.
02:09:37.400 People were getting nervous.
02:09:38.260 They were like, you should have done something that would appeal to more Republicans like Nikki
02:09:41.140 Haley, which really didn't understand where the Republican Party is right now at all.
02:09:46.080 She's not popular, to put it mildly, with the MAGA base.
02:09:50.240 And he took a lot of shit with those childless cat ladies and all this stuff.
02:09:53.260 They tried to paint J.D. Vance into a monster.
02:09:56.180 And he is anything but.
02:09:57.420 He is a dear, kind, smart, noble guy.
02:10:02.300 He really is.
02:10:03.020 And to this moment, he's running, kind of messaging for Trump in a way that really cuts
02:10:09.680 through the nonsense.
02:10:10.840 He just sent out a tweet that I pulled, because you should hear it, where he's trying to speak
02:10:16.000 to the people on this whole disinformation, who was misled and who wasn't.
02:10:19.780 This is what he writes.
02:10:21.340 One of the most important skills I see in successful and good people is to constantly re-evaluate
02:10:26.240 assumptions.
02:10:27.200 They make predictions based on various inputs, some of them unknown, and re-evaluate based
02:10:32.880 on what they got right and wrong.
02:10:35.300 They trust people, not because they're always right, no one is, but because if you're constantly
02:10:39.640 seeking the truth, it's easy to identify those who are doing the same.
02:10:45.580 Not you, Alan Lickman.
02:10:47.840 That was me, not him.
02:10:49.440 If you were confident that Donald J. Trump was going to lose, maybe you should question
02:10:54.380 what else you, quote, know about him.
02:10:57.660 Maybe the people who misled you about his electoral chances have misled you about other things.
02:11:03.240 In the words of Cormac McCarthy, quote, if the rule you followed brought you to this,
02:11:08.740 of what use was the rule?
02:11:11.800 Well said.
02:11:14.040 There is not likely to be that kind of reflection on the left, but J.D.
02:11:18.900 Vance doesn't need to prove himself anymore to any of us.
02:11:21.560 And I'm privileged to have met him a long time ago and to have seen the promise in this guy
02:11:27.500 when he was still pretty baby-faced, a little rounder than he is today, not quite as sharp
02:11:34.400 in a few different ways, but still just as special.
02:11:38.680 And it's a clip that's been making the rounds on Twitter in the wake of his victory, and
02:11:43.240 I thought we'd close with it today.
02:11:45.400 Here we are.
02:11:46.840 Was it 17 or 18?
02:11:48.400 I always forget.
02:11:49.120 The years are kind of blending together.
02:11:50.720 It was 2017.
02:11:52.720 Yours truly, and J.D. Vance.
02:11:55.540 Being sworn at, insulted, or humiliated by your parents.
02:11:58.700 Sure.
02:11:59.520 Check.
02:12:00.320 Being pushed, grabbed, or having something thrown at you.
02:12:02.540 Check.
02:12:02.820 Having parents who were separated or divorced.
02:12:05.360 Check.
02:12:06.080 Living with an alcoholic or a drug user.
02:12:08.380 Check.
02:12:09.160 Living with someone who is depressed or attempted suicide.
02:12:12.080 Check.
02:12:12.640 Watching a loved one be physically abused.
02:12:16.060 Check.
02:12:17.560 You're batting a thousand.
02:12:18.780 Yeah.
02:12:22.040 That man will be sworn in as Vice President of the United States on January 20th, notwithstanding
02:12:28.420 the many lies that have been told about him, too.
02:12:33.380 He's exactly right.
02:12:35.520 You should go back and look at the people who told you those lies, or who weren't open-minded
02:12:41.280 to the possibility that this is a complex human being, just like all of us.
02:12:46.600 And notwithstanding, a comment here or there should be judged on the full body of his thoughts
02:12:51.560 and work.
02:12:53.360 J.D. Vance is a good man.
02:12:55.100 So is Donald Trump.
02:12:56.080 And we are lucky that men like that are willing to serve us.
02:13:02.920 I, for one, will be cheering him in a particularly special way when he takes the office, along
02:13:08.220 with his beautiful wife, Usha, who's the smartest of us all.
02:13:12.500 I mean, this woman is absolutely brilliant.
02:13:14.200 And we'll be, I'm sure, helping him in the challenge of his life.
02:13:18.680 And we should all be praying for both of them to stay safe, to feel emboldened, to enact
02:13:26.520 the clear mandate that they've been given, and to get to work on helping the Americans
02:13:32.140 put them in office.
02:13:34.180 I can't wait to see them get started.
02:13:37.840 Have a great weekend, and we'll see you on Monday.
02:13:39.420 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.
02:13:43.820 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.