The Megyn Kelly Show - Megyn on Radical Trans Ideology as Key 2024 Campaign Issue, Plus Murderer Gets Surgery Thanks to Kamala, with Matt Murphy ｜ Ep. 920

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00:00:15.540 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:27.060 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

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00:00:34.220 An issue that has honestly helped define this show since its inception, not to mention my

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00:01:53.060 I'm speaking about the transing of our children and women's rights and girls' rights. 1.00

00:01:58.640 There are few, if any, shows that have done more on this topic than we have here at the

00:02:02.980 MK Show.

00:02:03.960 Way back in October of 2020, we launched in September of 2020, on episode 12, when we were

00:02:12.980 still just an audio podcast, we brought on Abigail Schreier about her groundbreaking,

00:02:20.720 life-changing book.

00:02:23.060 Today, the book that people don't want you to read or us to talk about.

00:02:28.200 But guess what?

00:02:28.960 We're going to do it.

00:02:30.120 It's called Irreversible Damage, and it is important.

00:02:34.140 The book is about the number of girls who are declaring themselves transgender and how that

00:02:39.300 number is skyrocketing.

00:02:41.640 Since then, we've covered the dangerous ideology that has been forced on us and our children,

00:02:47.260 in our schools, and our communities at length.

00:02:51.280 From the genital surgeries on healthy young boys and girls cutting off perfectly healthy 0.97

00:02:57.660 body parts, to the detransitioners who have been hurt by this insane ideology, who then 0.77

00:03:04.360 get ignored by the media and rejected by the community that love-bombed them into doing

00:03:11.760 this to themselves in the first place.

00:03:13.920 We've discussed many times the impact on sports as boys and men invade women's spaces and sports 1.00

00:03:22.900 and take their prize money and take the glory of winning away from them in matches that are

00:03:29.180 neither fair nor safe.

00:03:31.400 Back in June of 2023, it was episode 564 that I stated publicly after I had on Kelly J. Keene,

00:03:39.860 who really convinced me that it was time to stop using these so-called preferred pronouns.

00:03:47.900 I have resolved to base my conversations around gender on the same tenets that already govern

00:03:54.420 my life, truth and reality.

00:03:56.660 I will not use preferred pronouns, a decision motivated by a growing alarm over women's rights

00:04:03.820 and the safety of children.

00:04:04.900 I will speak to a trans person kindly and with empathy.

00:04:09.540 In their presence, I will likely try to avoid pronouns altogether as I have no wish to intentionally

00:04:14.540 provoke or upset anyone.

00:04:17.460 But I will not take this gateway drug anymore because I have a daughter, because I am a woman,

00:04:25.900 an adult human female.

00:04:27.640 I get emotional just hearing that.

00:04:33.480 It's just what we've done to ourselves, what we've done to our kids, what we've done in 0.69

00:04:39.960 ceding this whole argument to the trans activists who are the worst people. 0.97

00:04:44.540 Honestly, they're just so vicious. 1.00

00:04:46.800 They're men.

00:04:48.420 Nine times out of ten, it's men posing as women who try to stifle and shut up women and girls 0.81

00:04:54.860 who are speaking up for themselves and their rights.

00:04:56.680 Since it's gone on for too long, while we were all asleep, they got laws changed in

00:05:01.920 state after state.

00:05:04.140 And only now has the sleeping giant been awoken to what they did.

00:05:09.960 And we need to fight back.

00:05:12.360 I've often mentioned that this topic has turned me into an almost single issue voter.

00:05:17.120 And I did predict that this would be a critical topic in the 2024 race.

00:05:20.440 Didn't realize it would take quite so long, but better late than never.

00:05:23.340 Finally, these Republicans are waking up to the fact that the electorate is not in favor

00:05:28.780 of this stuff, not Democrats or Republicans, never mind independents.

00:05:34.300 In fact, according to an article that just dropped, it was October 8th in the New York

00:05:37.920 Times, the Trump campaign's most aired ad in recent weeks about Kamala Harris has been

00:05:45.480 along these lines.

00:05:47.220 Kamala supports taxpayer-funded sex changes for prisoners.

00:05:50.440 Surgery.

00:05:51.980 For prisoners.

00:05:53.060 For prisoners.

00:05:54.120 Every transgender inmate in the prison system would have access. 0.55

00:05:59.600 It's hard to believe, but it's true. 0.93

00:06:01.680 Even the liberal media was shocked.

00:06:03.600 Kamala supports taxpayer-funded sex changes for prisoners and illegal aliens.

00:06:08.400 Every transgender inmate would have access. 0.98

00:06:11.520 Kamala's for they-them. 0.97

00:06:12.840 President Trump is for you.

00:06:14.720 I'm Donald J. Trump, and I approve this message.

00:06:18.700 This past Wednesday, Fox News' Brett Baer sat down with Vice President Harris and asked

00:06:23.780 her about the ad.

00:06:25.200 Are you still in support of using taxpayer dollars to help prison inmates or detained illegal

00:06:29.860 aliens to transition to another gender?

00:06:32.800 I will follow the law, and it's a law that Donald Trump actually follows.

00:06:37.220 The Trump aides say that he never advocated for that prison policy and no gender transition

00:06:41.960 surgeries happened during his presidency.

00:06:43.080 Well, you know what?

00:06:43.100 You've got to take responsibility for what happened in your administration.

00:06:45.920 Yeah, no surgeries happened in his presidency.

00:06:47.900 It's in black and white.

00:06:48.920 So would you still advocate for using taxpayer dollars for gender reassignment surgeries?

00:06:53.000 I will follow the law.

00:06:53.720 I think he spent $20 million on those ads, trying to create a sense of fear in the voters because

00:07:00.680 he actually has no plan in this election that is about focusing on the needs of the American

00:07:07.240 people.

00:07:08.380 Whereas, at $20 million on that ad, on an issue that, as it relates to the biggest issues that

00:07:16.220 affect the American people, it's really quite remote.

00:07:19.500 And again, his policy was no different.

00:07:23.060 Oh, quite remote, you say.

00:07:25.820 And yet that quite remote issue is making headlines on both the left and the right and becoming

00:07:31.380 a serious problem for Team Blue.

00:07:34.240 Because in reality, Vice President Harris, it impacts all of us, every single person who

00:07:40.060 gives a damn about children and about women's rights. 0.88

00:07:44.820 According to the Times, privately, quote, Democratic strategists concede that the transgender attacks 0.86

00:07:52.520 are taking a toll in some states, end quote.

00:07:55.580 And guess which states those are?

00:07:58.600 The critical swing states in this election.

00:08:01.080 The Times, noting that the ads have been running in key Senate races, including in Montana.

00:08:06.420 Don't forget, the Republicans, they're going to win West Virginia's Senate race.

00:08:09.920 If they get Montana, they get control of the Senate as long as they can hold the seats

00:08:13.000 they now have.

00:08:13.640 In Montana, in Ohio, in Pennsylvania, in Texas, and Wisconsin.

00:08:20.640 Yes, Texas is tighter than the Republicans would like it to be.

00:08:23.440 But this issue has taken center stage.

00:08:26.780 The Wall Street Journal editorial board wrote on October 13th that, quote, transgender sports

00:08:31.040 is a 2024 sleeper issue.

00:08:33.720 Welcome to the party, Wall Street Journal.

00:08:35.880 My God, it's just so annoying.

00:08:38.400 Sleeper issue?

00:08:38.980 Like, everybody who listens to this show knows that this has been an important issue for a

00:08:43.780 long time.

00:08:44.300 It's just that these highbrow mainstream media types have been totally ignoring it.

00:08:49.620 Oh, like her.

00:08:50.780 It's a remote issue.

00:08:52.340 Really?

00:08:54.040 Sterilizing and chopping up the healthy body parts of children? 0.71

00:08:57.880 It's just a sleeper issue. 1.00

00:09:00.360 Screw you.

00:09:00.860 The Wall Street Journal went so far to suggest it might cost Democrats control of Congress 0.99

00:09:05.620 this year.

00:09:06.600 Hello, McFly.

00:09:08.020 Hello.

00:09:09.040 We've been telling you all along.

00:09:11.280 This is a huge issue.

00:09:12.780 It doesn't have the support of the majority of Americans.

00:09:15.620 What it needed was media coverage.

00:09:18.720 That's it.

00:09:19.200 Um, we'll get to Kamala Harris trying to claim, you know, Trump.

00:09:25.320 Oh, he did it too.

00:09:26.180 That's a lie.

00:09:27.780 But I'm going to get to exactly what she did.

00:09:30.440 She says, I follow the law.

00:09:31.840 I follow the law.

00:09:32.680 No, no.

00:09:33.420 She worked in California to change the law to allow this. 0.96

00:09:38.000 She worked to change the law. 0.94

00:09:39.720 Now she looks Brett Baer in the eye and says, oh, I don't, I have no agency.

00:09:43.460 What do you mean?

00:09:44.200 I'm just going to follow the law, whatever it is when I get there.

00:09:46.280 Thanks to Obama, the policy was, we're going to pay for these procedures for these inmates.

00:09:53.240 Trump got in there and he worked to change that.

00:09:56.220 He challenged it legally and he challenged it administratively.

00:10:00.200 And then by the time he left, after he left, a prisoner wound up having a procedure under

00:10:06.560 Joe Biden on the taxpayer dime.

00:10:09.140 Joe Biden liked the old procedure.

00:10:10.400 He wanted the Obama policy of let's pay for it all.

00:10:12.900 But now they're trying to pin that on Trump because he didn't actually get the policy reversed,

00:10:16.800 though he worked against it while president.

00:10:18.740 That is apples to oranges.

00:10:20.420 I mean, that you cannot compare.

00:10:21.500 She worked actively as AG of California to change the policy, which did not allow it.

00:10:27.820 She was 180 degrees away from where Trump is.

00:10:31.180 All right, back to the Senate and how this is playing out.

00:10:34.820 Ohio, every, the Senate races, as you know, then the House races too.

00:10:39.320 They're not about swing states.

00:10:40.560 They're about numbers, sheer, raw numbers.

00:10:43.680 The Republicans need to win two, two seats and it's a great year for them to do it.

00:10:48.760 And if they don't do it this year, it doesn't look good for them next time around because

00:10:51.500 they're defending a lot more seats.

00:10:53.940 Um, so they're going to win West Virginia and it looks good for them in Montana, though

00:10:58.140 nothing's a lock.

00:10:58.860 And, um, if they could win another seat or two, it would give them some pad and it would

00:11:08.760 potentially cover maybe Texas or Ted Cruz is in a real knife fight to save his seat.

00:11:16.780 Um, and possibly another.

00:11:19.440 So they would like to run up their numbers and by run up their numbers, I mean, win by

00:11:24.320 more than just by winning those two seats where it's, you know, 51 49, they would love

00:11:28.920 to have 53 if they could get it.

00:11:31.080 So that's where these other States come in Ohio.

00:11:33.400 It's possible.

00:11:36.340 It's possible for them.

00:11:38.080 The Democrat is Sherrod Brown and he's the incumbent and he is dealing with the fallout

00:11:45.100 right now from this ad.

00:11:47.000 Watch.

00:11:47.780 It's just common sense.

00:11:49.180 Sherrod Brown talks about common sense, but Brown voted multiple times to allow transgender 0.98

00:11:54.120 biological males to participate in girls sports. 1.00

00:11:57.920 Brown supported allowing minor children to receive sex change surgery.

00:12:03.400 All right.

00:12:04.280 So Senator Brown has now released a counter attack ad suggesting this, this just isn't

00:12:10.100 true.

00:12:10.400 These are lies.

00:12:11.440 And he is now getting hit by the left for that ad in particular, the folks at the advocate,

00:12:17.800 which is pro LGBTQ, um, right.

00:12:20.880 So he's in a tough position because he's got to tell the normies in Ohio that he's not for

00:12:25.500 all the stuff that he's for.

00:12:26.980 And now the left wing folks are kind of irritated.

00:12:29.580 So no, they're not going to run over and vote for the Republican, but they might not.

00:12:33.400 If this is their big issue, it depresses the excitement, the enthusiasm and so on.

00:12:38.680 So it's not a great time for these incumbent Democrats to have this come up because they,

00:12:43.700 they have very little wiggle room.

00:12:45.580 Then there's Wisconsin democratic Senator Tammy Baldwin, who not so long ago was considered 0.94

00:12:50.740 a shoe in.

00:12:52.200 Um, and now is apparently in more of a nail biter in her race. 1.00

00:12:57.200 Watch this as the mom of a daughter and livid that boys are now being allowed to compete 1.00

00:13:02.840 in girls' sports.

00:13:04.000 It's just wrong.

00:13:05.300 And I blame Tammy Baldwin. 1.00

00:13:08.340 Hmm.

00:13:09.120 You should, because like most Democrats, she's on the wrong side of this issue. 1.00

00:13:13.600 The issue is also front and center.

00:13:15.160 Uh, it was at this week's fiery Senate debate down in Texas, where Republican Senator Ted

00:13:22.700 Cruz is trying to fend off a stronger than expected challenge from Congressman Colin Allred.

00:13:30.580 Watch this.

00:13:31.140 Four times he has come out for men playing in women's sports, for boys playing in girls'

00:13:38.460 sports.

00:13:38.900 He is a co-sponsor and he voted for a law called the Equality Act.

00:13:41.940 The Equality Act mandated that boys be able to go in girls' bathrooms, in their locker rooms,

00:13:46.480 in their changing rooms.

00:13:47.440 He voted for it.

00:13:48.520 That is his record.

00:13:49.680 Congressman Allred was an NFL linebacker.

00:13:52.040 It is not fair for a man to compete against women. 1.00

00:13:55.300 You know, when Ted Cruz starts talking about team sports, you got to watch out because

00:13:58.360 the only position he ever played was left out.

00:14:00.520 I'm not trying to be mean, Senator, but let, you know, just, you know, sit this one out,

00:14:03.940 please.

00:14:04.540 Listen, I don't support boys playing girls' sports. 1.00

00:14:07.300 I don't.

00:14:08.020 Why'd you vote for it?

00:14:08.500 No, stop.

00:14:09.100 Stop.

00:14:09.480 Why'd you vote for it?

00:14:09.920 Let me speak.

00:14:10.500 Let me speak.

00:14:10.980 What I think is that folks should not be discriminated against.

00:14:15.700 He lied.

00:14:17.100 He lied, lied, lied. 1.00

00:14:20.680 He's a liar. 1.00

00:14:21.440 I'm going to, all right, let's go through. 0.99

00:14:24.160 So what Colin Allred, oh, he's so likable.

00:14:27.660 He's a former NFL football player.

00:14:29.600 He's a native son, uh, in Texas, born and raised.

00:14:33.520 He's a former linebacker.

00:14:35.300 Sure.

00:14:35.460 He's a manly man.

00:14:36.360 He's going to look out for the young girls. 0.88

00:14:37.800 First of all, he has no girls.

00:14:38.840 Just FYI.

00:14:39.600 He's got two sons.

00:14:40.380 He has no daughters.

00:14:41.520 Maybe he'd look at this differently if he did. 0.99

00:14:43.740 And second of all, he's a liar, which is disqualifying. 0.94

00:14:47.140 Please, my Texas viewers and listeners, and I know we have a ton of them. 0.95

00:14:52.960 We can see where our biggest cities are and we're big in Texas.

00:14:55.860 I know this.

00:14:56.640 Please, please listen to me now.

00:14:59.860 Colin Allred not only is on the wrong side of this, but he lied to you.

00:15:04.260 He lied right to you in that debate.

00:15:07.000 It's not just like he took one little position that he's trying to disavow.

00:15:11.340 I'll go through it with you.

00:15:12.900 Here's his history.

00:15:13.760 In March of 2023, he voted against H.R. 5, because he's a U.S. congressman.

00:15:22.560 He voted against U.S. 5, the Parental Bill of Rights, which would require schools to notify

00:15:30.720 parents about opening up sports to all genders and would require schools to obtain parental

00:15:36.080 consent before they let a child change their gender markers or name or change their sex-based

00:15:43.220 accommodations.

00:15:44.140 All that said, that was saying, before my daughter shows up at your school and you start calling

00:15:50.800 her Joe instead of Jane and you start letting her go into the boys' room instead of the girls'

00:15:56.820 room, where, by the way, she's probably not safe to pose as a boy with the other boys,

00:16:02.760 because you have to tell me, let me tell you, this is so huge.

00:16:07.000 All the studies show that well into the 90 percentile of kids who socially transition,

00:16:13.900 which is what that is, will go on to the puberty blockers and the cross-sex hormones.

00:16:18.700 Once they socially transition, it's almost impossible to undo it.

00:16:22.780 They have skin in the game.

00:16:24.400 They feel embarrassed.

00:16:25.340 They feel they don't want to admit they made a mistake.

00:16:27.300 And then you're off to sterilization and body parts being chopped off.

00:16:31.760 And a lifetime of difficulty, aggravation, and mental health problems.

00:16:37.100 A school doing this without notifying the parents is child abuse.

00:16:44.000 It is the most flagrant disregard of parental rights you can get.

00:16:48.760 And so HR5 was an attempt to say schools must notify parents before they allow that.

00:16:55.320 Social transitioning is what they're talking about.

00:16:56.920 And also before they decide to open up sports to all genders, which is a safety issue, 0.70

00:17:01.800 not to mention fair, but a fairness issue.

00:17:04.180 But he voted against it.

00:17:06.780 Colin Allred voted against it.

00:17:09.520 He would have men who look like he does, like the size of a linebacker,

00:17:15.560 be able to come over into girls' field hockey and volleyball, tennis, you name it. 1.00

00:17:22.540 And then he lied.

00:17:24.760 He lied at that debate saying that he never did any of this.

00:17:30.080 And it's not true.

00:17:32.160 His ad says he didn't do it.

00:17:35.560 Here's his ad responding to Ted Cruz's ad, which attacked him on all this stuff.

00:17:41.180 Listen to him lie more.

00:17:42.320 Ted Cruz is lying again, but now he's lying about our children.

00:17:47.840 I'm a dad.

00:17:48.880 I'm also a Christian.

00:17:50.520 My faith has taught me that all kids are God's kids.

00:17:53.700 So let me be clear. 0.93

00:17:55.220 I don't want boys playing girls' sports or any of this ridiculous stuff that Ted Cruz is saying.

00:17:59.880 Ted Cruz is lying about my record because he can't defend his own.

00:18:03.240 He's done nothing to secure the border.

00:18:05.120 He wants to raise the retirement age for Social Security.

00:18:07.940 He's full of it.

00:18:09.120 You know that.

00:18:09.760 I'm Colin Allred, and I approve this message. 1.00

00:18:14.720 He's a liar. 0.98

00:18:17.000 Listen to this. 0.99

00:18:18.720 He voted against, as a U.S. congressman, H.R. 734, the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act.

00:18:24.900 That act would have prohibited males from participating in school athletic programs meant for girls.

00:18:32.400 He had the chance to ban it, and he refused.

00:18:35.740 He refused.

00:18:37.220 Can we play the ad again?

00:18:38.120 Play the ad again.

00:18:38.640 Ted Cruz is lying again, but now he's lying about our children.

00:18:43.660 I'm a dad.

00:18:44.760 I'm also a Christian.

00:18:46.420 My faith has taught me that all kids are God's kids.

00:18:49.580 So let me be clear. 0.93

00:18:51.100 I don't want boys playing girls' sports or any of this ridiculous stuff that Ted Cruz is saying.

00:18:55.780 Ted Cruz is lying about my record because he can't defend his own.

00:18:59.120 He's done nothing to secure the border.

00:19:01.000 He wants to raise the retirement age for Social Security.

00:19:03.680 He's full of it.

00:19:05.000 You know that.

00:19:05.660 I'm Colin Allred, and I approve this message.

00:19:10.000 I don't want boys playing in girls' sports. 1.00

00:19:13.320 He had the chance to sign on to a law that would have prohibited it, and he voted no.

00:19:19.300 More than that, in June of 2023, he co-sponsored a law that, quote, would force public schools to allow biologically male athletes who identify as transgender on the girls' sports teams.

00:19:34.000 He co-sponsored the law to require it in public schools.

00:19:40.780 The blatant dishonesty. 1.00

00:19:42.880 Colin Allred, you're a disgusting liar. 1.00

00:19:47.380 The receipts are right here. 1.00

00:19:49.000 It goes on.

00:19:49.880 In March of 2023, he co-sponsored a resolution, quote, recognizing that it is the duty of the federal government to develop and implement a transgender bill of rights.

00:20:01.040 It specifically calls for federal law to ensure that biological men can participate on sports teams and in programs that best align with their gender identity and use school facilities that best align with their gender identity.

00:20:18.320 He just looked you in the eye and told you that wasn't true.

00:20:22.280 He's not trying to allow boys into girls' sports.

00:20:25.380 This is unbelievable.

00:20:26.540 In February, back in February of 2021, he co-sponsored and voted for a revised version of the disgusting, quote, Equality Act.

00:20:38.540 Under this act, an individual shall not be denied access to a shared facility, including a restroom, a locker room, and a dressing room that is in accordance with that individual's gender identity.

00:20:54.420 He co-sponsored a mandate that would require boys to have access to your daughter's bathroom, locker room, and dressing room.

00:21:04.940 That's Colin Allred.

00:21:06.620 Ted Cruz has been fighting against all of this for years.

00:21:12.140 It's the gall for this guy to stand on that debate stage and look at Ted Cruz and try to mock his athleticism as a kid.

00:21:22.020 And, oh, big, tough linebacker.

00:21:24.460 Let me tell you about the sports.

00:21:25.840 What you tried to do was make it so your sons can come into our daughter's locker room, sir. 0.99

00:21:33.340 So screw you. 0.99

00:21:35.120 It keeps going. 1.00

00:21:38.160 I could go back.

00:21:38.740 I mean, I have another page of Colin Allred's behavior on this.

00:21:42.440 I think you get the picture.

00:21:45.040 I think you get the picture.

00:21:46.700 Don't vote for him.

00:21:48.520 Please, I urge you, Texans who listen to this show and watch this show, please.

00:21:54.460 I like Ted Cruz.

00:21:55.340 I'd vote for him anyway.

00:21:57.340 Please do not vote for this man, Colin Allred.

00:22:00.560 Ted Cruz is the only option if you care about this issue at all.

00:22:05.660 And it's not just Texas.

00:22:07.540 It's not just Ohio.

00:22:09.580 CNN now forced, thanks to The Times giving this attention, thanks to The Wall Street Journal finally giving this attention, CNN now finally forced to note this is becoming quite an issue in this race.

00:22:23.740 So the bottom line is Republicans are running on this issue because it's a winning issue for them.

00:22:28.720 In fact, it's a rare issue that unites Republicans and divides Democrats.

00:22:33.060 So take a look here.

00:22:33.800 Think transgender athletes should only play on teams that match their birth gender. 1.00

00:22:38.600 Look at this.

00:22:39.060 48 percent of Democrats, the slight plurality, actually agree with that idea.

00:22:43.240 47 percent opposed.

00:22:44.620 Among Republicans, it's a blowout.

00:22:46.400 93 percent agree with the idea versus just 6 percent opposed.

00:22:49.780 This issue is not going away.

00:22:54.380 And that brings me to my guest.

00:22:57.300 All right.

00:22:57.520 Former prosecutor Matt Murphy.

00:22:58.760 He's been on the show before.

00:23:00.080 He was recently on for a show.

00:23:01.380 We taped to air Christmas week when I go on vacation.

00:23:05.480 And it was on a different topic.

00:23:07.100 And you'll see that when we get closer to Christmas.

00:23:09.740 But we also got into one of the most chilling murders we've ever discussed on this show.

00:23:16.260 The case centers around a biological man who's now serving a life sentence in California for luring an innocent couple onto their own boat that they were trying to sell.

00:23:27.820 He posed as a potential buyer, got them to come onto their own boat, ostensibly to, you know, kick the tires and see if he wanted to buy it.

00:23:37.000 And instead, he tied them to an anchor and threw them overboard. 0.91

00:23:42.660 This sick guy recently underwent a taxpayer-funded sex change operation in California, thanks to Kamala Harris. 0.97

00:23:55.820 Okay? 0.97

00:23:56.340 This is not the only one.

00:23:58.880 Before I show you my interview with Matt Murphy, let me just tell you what happened in California.

00:24:04.240 Thanks to her.

00:24:06.260 She says to Brett Baer, I'll follow the law.

00:24:08.180 She changed the law, as I pointed out, in California to allow this, to mandate that the taxpayers fund these surgeries. 1.00

00:24:17.820 That is thanks to her.

00:24:21.120 What happened in California was there were a couple of people who wanted this, who were in the prison system.

00:24:29.280 And there was one named Jeffrey Bryan Norsworthy, who in 2015 was serving a prison sentence for murder, who sued the state's prison system to compel them to pay for a sex change operation.

00:24:43.180 Her office initially oversaw California's fight to block that surgery.

00:24:49.680 This was back in the days where we knew this was wrong.

00:24:52.860 The inmate wound up paroled right before the state had to cover the cost.

00:24:56.340 Okay?

00:24:57.240 But then there was another inmate who came forward.

00:25:01.040 His name was Rodney Quine, Q-U-I-N-E, serving a life sentence for murder.

00:25:06.840 And he filed a similar lawsuit amid the state's battle over this issue.

00:25:12.980 Okay?

00:25:13.100 They were still battling with this guy Norsworthy, who ultimately was paroled before they had to cover the costs.

00:25:19.740 But in comes this guy, Rodney Quine, and the state's still engaged in this ongoing battle with Norsworthy.

00:25:26.480 And at this point, Harris negotiated a settlement, quoting here from the Free Beacon, in which the state paid for Quine's sex change surgery and hundreds of thousands of dollars in attorney's fees.

00:25:39.900 Now, here's the thing.

00:25:44.060 The law still at that point said, no, we're not paying for this surgery.

00:25:48.820 But Kamala Harris worked behind the scenes to change the policy so that Quine could get it. 1.00

00:25:56.080 And all other inmates in California could get it.

00:25:59.260 And taxpayers would have to pay for it.

00:26:02.540 And I'm going to play her sound by bragging about it to an LGBTQ group. 1.00

00:26:06.580 But let me just tell you a word about Quine.

00:26:08.880 All right?

00:26:09.660 KCRA out in California reports, this guy kidnapped a 33-year-old father of three over $80 in the man's car.

00:26:19.980 His daughter later came out and said her father begged for his life, 33 years old.

00:26:26.920 He was merciless, this guy Quine.

00:26:28.900 Quine gets imprisoned, and thanks to Kamala Harris, Quine gets a sex change operation in prison on the California taxpayer's dime, including the daughter of the victim, who said this is a slap in the face.

00:26:43.640 I am paying for the sex change operation of the man who killed my father over $33 and a car, notwithstanding my father's begging for mercy, begging to have his life spared.

00:27:01.620 She was forced by you, Kamala Harris, to pay for that operation. 1.00

00:27:06.780 And here is Kamala Harris's, in her own words, bragging about that role she played in changing the policy in California.

00:27:17.660 Watch.

00:27:18.660 When I was attorney general, I learned that the California Department of Corrections, which was a client of mine, I didn't get to choose my clients, that they were standing in the way of surgery.

00:27:32.240 For prisoners.

00:27:33.600 For prisoners.

00:27:34.080 And there was a specific case.

00:27:36.240 And when I learned about the case, I worked behind the scenes to not only make sure that that transgender woman got the services she was deserving.

00:27:45.380 So it was not only about that case.

00:27:47.200 I made sure that they changed the policy in the state of California so that every transgender inmate in the prison system would have access to the medical care that they desired and need.

00:28:00.840 And I believe it was not only, I know it was historic in California, but I believe actually it may have been one of the first, if not the first in the country where I pushed for that policy.

00:28:10.580 She's proud of it.

00:28:12.740 Just to clarify what I said, I'm getting all hot and bothered.

00:28:14.760 I'm screwing up my facts.

00:28:16.220 The victim was 33 years old and a father of three.

00:28:19.540 It was over $80, $80 in his car that he was attacked and he was murdered.

00:28:25.540 He was kidnapped.

00:28:26.580 He was murdered and he was robbed.

00:28:28.760 And that is what this guy, Quine, was convicted of. 0.96

00:28:33.360 It's disgusting.

00:28:36.060 As you guys know, because you listen to my show, I thought Brett did a great job in this interview with Kamala Harris the other night.

00:28:42.540 But this is where, you know, had it been yours truly there, I would have followed up when she said, I'll follow the law.

00:28:50.160 I'll follow the law.

00:28:51.500 Same as President Trump.

00:28:52.340 I would have said, you worked to change the law by your own admission in California.

00:28:56.800 You worked to mandate that taxpayers provide these surgeries.

00:29:01.560 And I would have played that soundbite.

00:29:04.440 You act as though you have no agency.

00:29:07.340 You did as Attorney General and you certainly would as President.

00:29:11.540 So do you or do you not stand by your 2019 ACLU questionnaire where you said you wanted at the federal level to mandate taxpayer-funded sex change operations in every prison?

00:29:27.180 And will you promise the voters that you will work to undo any policy that now exists that requires it?

00:29:40.280 She's so dishonest. 0.95

00:29:41.540 She's as dishonest as Colin Allred. 0.99

00:29:44.240 She knows exactly what she did. 0.97

00:29:46.760 She not only made sure this guy Quine got a sex change surgery on the taxpayer's dime, but she made sure this other guy, who Matt Murphy told us about, got the same. 0.99

00:29:59.060 And he is one of the most disgusting criminals in California history. 0.94

00:30:05.660 Here's my interview with 27-year prosecutor Matt Murphy on that. 0.89

00:30:11.540 Matt, I've got to ask you about this case.

00:30:14.500 It's all over the news right now.

00:30:16.160 This was your case.

00:30:17.720 Team Trump has realized in the waning days of this campaign that the insanity that's happening with respect to women's rights versus trans rights is a very hot election issue.

00:30:31.240 You're starting to see this issue with, in particular, Democrats being on the wrong side of this, raised in the Texas Senate race, in Wisconsin, in Michigan, and at the presidential level between Trump and Harris.

00:30:45.000 He's got an ad running in almost every NFL game reminding people that Kamala Harris both wrote explicitly that she's in favor of taxpayer-funded sex change operations for prisoners and for illegal immigrants and that she's on camera bragging about having done it in California.

00:31:05.920 And you were the prosecutor of the one man in particular who's been in the news, thanks to the Free Beacon, which raised this, who she basically, I mean, he can thank his taxpayer-funded sex change operation in California to Kamala Harris.

00:31:24.880 He can thank her for it.

00:31:26.340 He's the so-called yacht killer serving a life sentence, and he got a taxpayer-funded sex change surgery thanks to her.

00:31:35.220 His name, last name is Jacobson.

00:31:37.500 Can you tell us about this case?

00:31:39.220 Yeah, his birth name is Jacobson.

00:31:41.760 His actual name, he changed it, is Skyler de Leon, and that's what he's known as.

00:31:46.040 So, yeah, quick rundown on this.

00:31:48.120 This is a guy who, this is one of the worst murders that I'd ever seen, that I ever encountered in my 17 years exclusively of doing homicide cases.

00:31:57.880 Essentially what he did was he, there's a couple named Tom and Jackie Hawks who retired and bought a yacht called the Well-Deserved, and their dream was to sail off into the sunset.

00:32:09.680 And they had a grandson, and they decided to sell their boat and move back to Arizona to help raise the grandson.

00:32:18.160 And these are salt of the earth, wonderful people who really loved each other.

00:32:22.780 She was 47, he was 57, and they went out on what's called a sea trial, which is basically a test drive for a yacht.

00:32:30.060 And they sail out, and they were tied to an anchor, begging for their lives, and thrown overboard.

00:32:39.600 And the person who did that as a part of this huge conspiracy was Skyler de Leon.

00:32:44.800 And as we're investigating their disappearance, we find an Interpol liaison card for the LAPD.

00:32:52.100 It turns out Skyler was responsible for a completely different murder about 10 months earlier down in Mexico of a guy named John Peter Jarby, who Skyler lured down there, cut his throat on the side of the road, and took $50,000 off of him as a part of another big manipulative, hey, we have a no-lose, probably convinced him they had a drug deal down there or something like that.

00:33:15.020 And Skyler de Leon is one of the most vicious, cruelest, and sadistic human beings that has ever existed in the United States of America.

00:33:26.320 This guy lured – he brought his baby onto the boat to lure these people into a false sense of security so they would trust him enough to go out to sea with them, and then literally force them to sign bill of sale documents indicating that they had sold the boat to Skyler.

00:33:43.480 They took them out to sea. Jackie Hawks was begging for her life. Tom and Jackie are – they subdued them with stun guns.

00:33:51.800 They tasered Jackie Hawks as they physically overwhelmed her husband. 1.00

00:33:58.260 They threatened each one and basically saying, if you don't sign this, we are going to – we're going to hurt your – we're going to hurt your husband.

00:34:05.740 If you don't sign it, we're going to hurt your wife. 0.99

00:34:07.160 But Tom, who is a retired probation officer and fireman, somebody who really contributed to the world and society, he said, you know, just don't hurt my wife.

00:34:17.200 I'll sign anything you want.

00:34:18.340 And once they got the form sign, instead of bringing them in like they promised, they took them out to sea, knowing that they were going to die.

00:34:26.680 Tom Hawks was stroking his wife's hand, who was still saying, I need to see my grandchild one more time, stroking her hand, saying it's okay, we're going to be together.

00:34:35.500 And then they literally took him out on the standstill of the boat, tied him to an anchor, and threw the anchor in the cold November ocean off of Catalina Island and drowned them.

00:34:47.540 And that guy – so Skyler had $50,000 in cash after the murder of John Jarvie.

00:34:54.180 Now, all this sex change stuff, he had enough money to get the sex change 10 months before.

00:34:59.640 And that was allegedly one of the motives, like one of the reasons he wanted the money was so he could pay for his own?

00:35:09.020 No, he just wanted the money.

00:35:11.180 This sex change is a manipulation by Skyler DeLeon. 1.00

00:35:14.600 Skyler DeLeon is a pathological liar. 0.92

00:35:17.600 He was in the Marine Corps for about a minute before he went AWOL, but he had a force recon tattoo and tell everybody he was in the special forces in the Marine Corps. 0.91

00:35:26.580 This guy – so I was a DA for 26 years, Megan. 0.67

00:35:30.120 This is the best liar I have ever seen of all of them, Ed Shin, of all of them.

00:35:36.280 This guy showed up with these documents, and Tom and Jackie Hawks were missing. 0.80

00:35:43.400 The family's worried sick.

00:35:44.660 It's approaching the holidays.

00:35:46.080 They were really nice, loved people with a lot of friends and family, and they just disappeared.

00:35:51.480 And Skyler and his wife Jennifer show up with the boat and these bill of sale documents.

00:35:57.180 And when they interviewed Skyler – and I monitored this myself – they were so convincing, but especially Skyler.

00:36:06.360 And what he is, is he went through his life telling everybody he was a hermaphrodite.

00:36:10.320 He wasn't. 0.98

00:36:10.840 He was a pathological liar who would – any tale he could tell that could manipulate somebody into giving them something that he wanted, he would do it over and over and over again. 0.81

00:36:22.700 So he had $50,000 in cash after the murder of John Jarvie, and they blew it on – they bought a new car. 0.82

00:36:28.540 They paid off some credit card bills.

00:36:29.820 He bought a $900 sex toy the day – like, the day he murdered Jarvie, he crosses back into the United States, finds this thing online, and purchases it with the money.

00:36:42.220 So he has this – he has a little spending spree.

00:36:45.320 They go through the money in about 48 hours, buying stuff, frivolous things.

00:36:50.220 So the idea that he committed this murder out of some desire to have gender-reaffirming surgery is absolutely bogus.

00:37:01.280 This is a manipulation where he's taking advantage of the trans community, and he's garnering sympathy so that he can get additional privileges, so that he can get sympathy, so that he can get trips out of the prison.

00:37:13.100 I mean, this guy is –

00:37:13.900 Well, so now – but now – but now he did, in prison, get the surgery.

00:37:19.160 I mean, he wrote what we know he did, and he confirmed it personally, and you paid for it, Matt.

00:37:24.640 Right.

00:37:25.280 Me and my fellow Californians paid for that.

00:37:28.560 This is a slap in the face to the victims in that family.

00:37:31.300 Look, this is not a political statement, and I'm sure you feel the same way.

00:37:35.360 I have nothing but support for anybody that feels that they've got to, you know, have surgery to be a happier person.

00:37:42.160 I'm all for it.

00:37:42.740 I have no problem with the trans community.

00:37:44.320 I support them.

00:37:45.000 I've worked with a trans colleague.

00:37:46.260 I'm as, like, live and let live as you can possibly get.

00:37:50.760 This man and what he did, nobody should be taking him onto their team. 1.00

00:37:56.260 This guy manipulates – at least this time people aren't going to die because they believe his bullshit. 1.00

00:38:02.020 But the idea that this man is worthy of any sympathy or our tax dollars to do this, he's a condemned prisoner. 1.00

00:38:10.040 He's been sentenced to death, okay, and I know California has a moratorium on it.

00:38:14.740 I understand he'll never be executed in the state of California.

00:38:16.880 But the idea that we are spending precious medical resources to give Styler de Leon, not like a burglar who's in there who was on the eve of his surgery and got arrested, but this man who murdered these three people, especially Tom and Jackie Hawks, is a slap in the face to the victims.

00:38:34.240 It really is, and it is something that people – people should educate themselves about this case.

00:38:40.520 And part of the problem is the media that's coming out on it, they're identifying him with his birth name as John Julius Jacobson.

00:38:47.340 This is Skyler de Leon.

00:38:48.820 He changed his name legally, and he did it after he went AWOL from the Marine Corps in part to make it harder for them to track him down.

00:38:56.920 But this guy, this is a ruthless psychopath that used his kid, used his infant child, brought his child onto the boat with the express purpose of luring Tom and Jackie Hawks into a false sense of security.

00:39:13.380 He literally said that to his wife, hey, you got to bring the kid, bring Haley down here so that we can put these people at ease so we can take them out to sea. 1.00

00:39:21.620 This is a – you don't get any more vicious as far as killings go.

00:39:27.140 You don't get any darker or more disturbing.

00:39:29.880 And the idea that we're spending precious medical resources on this guy, in my view, is morally wrong.

00:39:38.880 You know, like it's just – that's not a political statement.

00:39:41.280 Even by Kamala Harris's logic, it's to alleviate his emotional stress in being trapped in the wrong body.

00:39:49.480 Who cares?

00:39:50.080 If this guy's feeling emotional stress or trauma, good.

00:39:53.940 Yeah, there's a way that we could alleviate his emotional stress by carrying out the execution that was ordered by the judge in that case.

00:40:01.200 I mean, that would alleviate it.

00:40:02.860 And we could spend that limited hospital time, precious resources on a child that needs some sort of transplant.

00:40:11.780 There's better uses for that money than making a monster like that comfortable in somebody.

00:40:16.900 And here's my biggest problem is that it's a con.

00:40:20.160 It's not real.

00:40:21.040 He went ahead with the surgery, but that's – it's all about shock, and he's going to try to get into a women's prison. 0.99

00:40:26.740 Now he's a male in San Quentin.

00:40:28.400 I don't know where they have him housed right now.

00:40:30.520 Last I checked, which wasn't that long ago, he was still in San Quentin.

00:40:33.340 But now – so now he is a woman under the laws of the state of California. 0.92

00:40:39.400 Fine, but can you really house him with men anymore?

00:40:41.900 So he's been trying to get – from the minute he was arrested, in our case, Megan, he was trying to get transferred over to the women's jail.

00:40:49.980 He was wearing women's – he came in with contraband, women's T-shirts.

00:40:55.560 Like he's been – this has been his thing since he was arrested.

00:40:59.960 It's not real.

00:41:00.580 This was – he was in the Marines, and he was a father with two kids.

00:41:05.320 And I understand, like, people can change, and people can decide to do that.

00:41:09.920 More power to them.

00:41:10.940 I have no beef with anybody that – any adult that wants to go through that surgery.

00:41:15.840 But when you have been sentenced to death for one of the most vicious and depraved murders that turned out to be three murders because he murdered another innocent guy, you know, what are we doing?

00:41:29.920 We're done.

00:41:31.840 What are we doing?

00:41:33.860 What is my state doing?

00:41:35.360 Like, he's been sentenced to death, but we want to make sure that he's comfortable in his own body, which is a con.

00:41:39.840 It is not real.

00:41:40.380 You know why you're doing it.

00:41:41.880 You're doing it because Kamala Harris made a policy change. 0.99

00:41:45.740 She's bragged about it on camera.

00:41:47.400 She's very proud.

00:41:48.740 And it's because of her, quote, good work that after she left, but he benefited from the policies, this guy was able to bill the California taxpayers, the truckers, the waitresses, the nurses, for this so-called reassignment surgery.

00:42:04.620 Listen, in my circle of friends, I have plenty of – my best friend in the whole world is a died-in-the-wall Democrat, okay?

00:42:11.700 Some of the best judges I've tried cases in front of are Democrats.

00:42:15.740 Every Democrat I know in my world is outraged by the fact that Schuyler de Leon was given this surgery.

00:42:24.240 Like, this is not even a Democrat-Republican thing.

00:42:27.860 I don't think – this is a common sense, like, right and wrong thing.

00:42:33.140 Like, this is – like, it's a slap in the face to the victim's families that will never get over the horror of this murder.

00:42:39.880 It really is.

00:42:40.480 And for whom he had zero empathy.

00:42:43.900 He had zero empathy for him.

00:42:44.980 Yes.

00:42:46.060 Yes.

00:42:47.520 I mean, I'm outraged by it.

00:42:49.600 I don't know what's happening in my state.

00:42:51.120 I just – this is one of those things – again, this is – from my view, this transcends politics.

00:42:59.540 This is a waste of resources for somebody that – you know, like – I mean, there are better uses for that money because that's taxpayer.

00:43:08.220 He didn't pay for that himself.

00:43:09.420 He had nothing.

00:43:10.620 So don't we have better uses than to spend it on something?

00:43:15.520 And that's a significant surgery, right?

00:43:18.200 But also, it's a con by him.

00:43:21.140 Everybody – they've been manipulated by Schuyler by putting in for that.

00:43:25.020 Like, he's been – he's – the evidence against him is totally overwhelming.

00:43:28.560 He's never getting out.

00:43:29.520 No, we're now funding his ongoing fraud, which may very well end up with him in a woman's prison, which California is doing by the dozens, and probably a woman getting hurt.

00:43:42.580 I mean, that's honestly how these things have been going.

00:43:45.380 More articulate than I could have put it, it is an ongoing fraud.

00:43:48.380 That is my problem.

00:43:49.340 It is an ongoing fraud and manipulation.

00:43:51.320 And he's just gone from this poor couple that he murdered after this pilot that he murdered.

00:43:56.100 First, it's the pilot.

00:43:57.580 Then it's the poor couple.

00:43:59.080 And now it's the state of California. 1.00

00:44:00.680 And everybody is like – they're still dancing to the music of this freaking psychopath. 0.99

00:44:05.620 He made – okay. 1.00

00:44:06.640 He planned that murder for months.

00:44:08.360 Again, just so we understand, when you're talking about the word comfort, he planned that meticulously for months.

00:44:14.100 He brought in two other men on the boat with him.

00:44:16.840 This was – they drafted the documents.

00:44:19.700 He made absolutely no provision in his planning for their suffering, for their comfort.

00:44:26.220 He tied them to an anchor and threw them overboard.

00:44:28.880 And Jackie Hawks, according to one of the co-conspirators that we rolled, who testified, she was crying when she went overboard.

00:44:35.900 And it's like that thing that we all had as a kid, right?

00:44:37.980 That conversation we've all had around a campfire at some point.

00:44:40.500 What's the worst way to die?

00:44:41.940 Like, fire ants or a bear or a lion? 0.97

00:44:44.940 Would you burn to death a priest?

00:44:46.160 We've all had that conversation as kids.

00:44:47.880 The only – the haunting image that everybody is left with is how do you cry and try to hold your breath at the same time?

00:44:55.540 That's the discomfort that Jackie Hawks was put through.

00:44:58.660 That's what they did to totally innocent people.

00:45:00.920 The idea that we're spending precious medical resources in an ongoing fraud to make somebody more comfortable when he made no provision for anybody else's comfort in one of the most cruel, sadistic murders I ever saw.

00:45:15.660 It is just – it makes me lose sleep.

00:45:18.180 It's not right.

00:45:18.960 It is not right.

00:45:19.980 Matt Murphy, thank you for being one of the good guys your whole career and putting guys like that behind bars where they belong.

00:45:25.800 Great to see you.

00:45:27.000 Thank you.

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00:47:52.260 Okay.

00:47:52.700 We've got a lot of great questions that came in to MeganKelley.com and Megan at MeganKelley.com.

00:47:57.340 This first one is from Diana.

00:47:58.320 She wants to know, what are the odds that Joe Biden will give Donald Trump a full pardon

00:48:02.420 on his last day in office as the ultimate FU to the Democratic Party?

00:48:06.800 Diana, I would put that at zero, zero.

00:48:09.880 He hates Donald Trump and Donald Trump hates him.

00:48:13.160 However, I do think he will pardon Hunter Biden, despite the fact that he has said he would not.

00:48:17.940 So Hunter gets the pardon and Trump does not.

00:48:21.480 Okay.

00:48:22.100 Excellent.

00:48:22.440 Well, there you go.

00:48:23.220 Now, this one is kind of about us and The Megan Kelly Show.

00:48:26.200 Steve, good name Steve, not for me though.

00:48:27.880 Uh, wants to know how has working at the Megan Kelly Show been different or the same

00:48:31.540 versus your time at the Kelly File at Fox?

00:48:35.260 Oh, it's like night and day, Steve, night and day.

00:48:37.700 It's, uh, it's so great to be on my own.

00:48:41.220 I have to tell you just today, I was getting ready for the show.

00:48:43.960 I was looking out my window.

00:48:45.660 I was looking at the fall colors.

00:48:47.860 I had brought my own children to school.

00:48:51.540 I will have dinner with them tonight.

00:48:53.580 I'm at work when they're at school, which is such a blessing.

00:48:55.980 It was so different at Fox.

00:48:58.020 You know, I left for work just as my kids were getting home from school.

00:49:01.880 I never looked out a window.

00:49:03.800 I only looked at ugly tan walls.

00:49:07.040 Um, and if I did look out a window, it was just cityscape, corporate buildings, you know,

00:49:11.860 the concrete jungle.

00:49:12.640 I didn't see a flower, a tree.

00:49:15.060 I just love all of that.

00:49:16.400 I can, I can do things the way I want to do things, you know, just, I don't know, like

00:49:21.720 in the morning I can work out now.

00:49:23.380 There's some time when I put the show together, I can be doing it in like comfortable settings

00:49:28.480 and wearing comfortable clothing.

00:49:30.380 I'm not constantly like squeezing myself into some polyester bright pink dress and getting

00:49:35.780 false eyelet.

00:49:36.440 It's just like my life is better.

00:49:38.500 I can see my family.

00:49:39.440 I can have a more relaxed day and on the content that's night and day too, right?

00:49:44.540 It's just having more meaningful discussions, having the chance to have a show like this

00:49:48.000 where you can spend the time to really explain what a liar Colin already is and give the example.

00:49:55.360 I could never have done that Steve Krakauer on Fox because there's just not enough time.

00:50:00.960 There's only 42, 38, usually minutes of content in a show.

00:50:03.800 So you can't devote it to one thing.

00:50:06.100 You know, they would never have allowed that.

00:50:07.780 So all of it feels like a luxury to me.

00:50:10.840 And, uh, I only wish I had done it sooner.

00:50:13.900 Yeah, this is great.

00:50:14.860 This is just like, this is an extra episode with no limits on time.

00:50:17.800 It's just like, oh, we'll just put it out and talk to her as long as we need to, to do it.

00:50:21.120 So, uh, yeah, no, it's great to have that, that flexibility.

00:50:23.740 Um, all right, let me jump to the personal side though, again, because Jennifer is a mom of three 0.98

00:50:27.980 ages, 15, 13, and nine.

00:50:30.120 They don't have social media, but they're starting to get to the age where, uh,

00:50:33.780 they've one's got a phone and they've got obviously the friends thing.

00:50:36.420 So she wants to know as a parent, how do you help them navigate serious situations as they

00:50:40.280 transition to young adulthood?

00:50:42.560 Oh, Jennifer, thank you for that.

00:50:44.040 And as you know, our kids are almost perfectly aligned, right?

00:50:47.100 Cause we, I've got 15, 13 and 11.

00:50:50.100 Uh, it's, I mean, the social media thing, it hasn't been hard.

00:50:53.520 I have to say, we just kind of said, we told them early and we continue to tell them like,

00:50:57.860 it's not happening for you.

00:50:59.220 Now, obviously at some point they're going to have social media introduced into their lives as

00:51:03.340 they get older and that's okay.

00:51:04.900 Like I, I realized that we can't ban it forever, but I think getting them through the most tender

00:51:11.480 ages, especially girls, I mean, boys too, but especially girls, you know, at the time when

00:51:16.500 the body image is everywhere and so like, that is a gift that we give to our kids.

00:51:20.540 And I, our kids, all the feedback we've gotten from them is they love not having it.

00:51:25.320 It's, they love being like, Oh, my parents banned it.

00:51:27.500 You know, I'm not allowed.

00:51:28.660 It just, they don't have to look at Snapchat and see where all their friends are.

00:51:32.460 And if they're not invited, they don't have to look at all these images of girls and wonder

00:51:35.680 why they don't look like that.

00:51:37.880 So it's been pretty easy.

00:51:39.380 The phones have it like saying you can have a phone, but you can have social media is an

00:51:43.560 acceptable compromise.

00:51:44.460 I think to these kids and their friends text them, they get invited to stuff via text.

00:51:49.180 They just, you know, so I think as far as that goes, it's not as hard as people think.

00:51:53.700 And even though our kids are either the only ones literally in their grades or the only

00:52:00.000 one, but for two, like they're one other, um, it's been fine.

00:52:04.800 They, they really, once, once they kind of lived life doing it, it wasn't that big a deal

00:52:08.640 for them.

00:52:10.360 All right.

00:52:10.760 My last one for this week is from Margaret.

00:52:12.420 Uh, she is approaching her 50s.

00:52:14.420 She says she's currently changing her skincare routine.

00:52:16.500 She says your skin is gorgeous.

00:52:17.700 Do you have any suggestions for Margaret?

00:52:20.400 Margaret, thank you.

00:52:21.560 Um, well, I mean, first of all, stay out of the sun.

00:52:23.700 That's for sure.

00:52:24.640 No matter what you age, you are.

00:52:26.820 Uh, second of all, some sort of retinol, whether it's actual like retin-A or the retinol products

00:52:35.400 that are like a little gentler, get some sort of retinol product going on your skin.

00:52:40.400 My skin is really sensitive.

00:52:42.160 So I had to start by doing it just one day a week.

00:52:45.600 And then once your skin isn't getting flaky, you can do like a Monday and a Friday.

00:52:51.240 And then after a couple of weeks of that, you can add in a Wednesday and then eventually

00:52:56.460 you can get up to maybe five days a week.

00:52:58.160 And I am telling you, it shrinks your pores.

00:53:02.220 It gets rid of redness.

00:53:04.140 This is for guys too.

00:53:05.140 Cause you know, I always feel bad for the guys.

00:53:06.640 They don't wear makeup.

00:53:07.940 So if you have imperfect skin, it's kind of like, Oh, you don't have to deal with it.

00:53:11.200 No, try, try a retinol product because you can really make your pores smaller.

00:53:15.260 You can get rid of redness on your face and it fights wrinkles and stimulates collagen.

00:53:20.700 Uh, so I think it's a game changer.

00:53:23.420 And if you do nothing else, ask your derm about some sort of retin-A product that to stay out 0.98

00:53:29.840 of the sun.

00:53:30.700 And last but not least, I have recently begun using a red light and I love my red light

00:53:38.160 therapy.

00:53:38.780 I really think it's making a difference in like my complexion, like, uh, getting redness

00:53:45.120 out and like maybe a little like sun damage.

00:53:48.300 I wish I had taken a before with a naked face so you could see the after, but I myself am

00:53:52.440 definitely noticing.

00:53:53.020 I just do 10 minutes a day, do 10 minutes in the morning.

00:53:55.420 You can get the fancy machine that costs a thousand bucks, or you can get the cheaper

00:53:59.720 stuff that costs $200.

00:54:01.720 It's not that expensive and it makes a big difference 10 minutes a day.

00:54:06.520 All right.

00:54:07.300 Love it.

00:54:07.740 Great questions.

00:54:08.320 Great answers.

00:54:08.780 Back again next week.

00:54:10.620 Thanks for writing in everybody.

00:54:12.100 We appreciate it.

00:54:12.760 Again, it's Megan, M-E-G-Y-N at megankelly.com.

00:54:16.040 Okay.

00:54:16.460 And before we wrap up this episode, it is time for another edition of Thanks, But No

00:54:21.420 Thanks, where we say thanks, but no thanks to something bubbling up in the news.

00:54:26.120 Today, we're talking candles.

00:54:28.420 It is that time of year, those aromas of fall giving way to Thanksgiving and the holiday

00:54:33.240 season.

00:54:33.720 And you might be making your way to Bath and Body Works at your local mall to check out their

00:54:38.940 just released new Christmas collection for 2024.

00:54:41.760 There's Frosted Forest and Frozen Lake, Winter Golden Pear and Frosted Coconut Snowball.

00:54:49.860 Wait, what?

00:54:51.140 Okay.

00:54:51.320 And then there's that red one in the corner called Snowed Inn.

00:54:55.280 Sounds pretty normal.

00:54:56.520 According to Bath and Body Works, Snowed Inn has fragrances that include sweet musk and cozy

00:55:03.000 vanilla and creamy buttermint, whatever that means.

00:55:06.600 But look a little closer.

00:55:07.960 Really think about what that snowflake design brings up in your mind.

00:55:12.980 What does that look like to you?

00:55:15.060 And what you will find is what the internet has dubbed the Ku Klux Klandle.

00:55:22.620 Yes, that stylized partial snowflake is actually a bunch of Klansmen wearing their white hoods.

00:55:30.800 It looks identical.

00:55:33.100 Bath and Body Works, what are you doing?

00:55:35.820 Who screened this?

00:55:37.980 The Snowed Inn design used to be a window overlooking a snowy landscape.

00:55:43.660 Perfect.

00:55:44.300 But now they decided it needed upgrading, I guess.

00:55:46.820 And they have stepped right into a racist sense PR nightmare.

00:55:50.820 At least that's the determination of the internet, which, as we know, always acts perfectly rationally.

00:55:56.660 It was not long until the executives at Bath and Body Works issued a statement that reads,

00:56:01.920 At Bath and Body Works, we are committed to listening to our teams and customers and committed

00:56:06.600 to fixing any mistakes we make, even those that are unintentional like this one.

00:56:11.580 We apologize to anyone we've offended and are swiftly working to have this item removed and are evaluating our process going forward.

00:56:19.720 Yes, there will be a great replacement of this racist candle from all the mega malls in America.

00:56:27.100 But unfortunately, not everyone got the memo.

00:56:31.220 You see, last week, over on the Candle Channel on YouTube, yes, that's a thing, run by the nation's preeminent candle reviewer, Kent,

00:56:41.480 but the new Snowden candle got its time in the spotlight.

00:56:45.520 Moving on, we have Snowden right here, and that's what that looks like.

00:56:50.700 We have like a pink metallic feel to this one.

00:56:54.400 And yeah, I was like, what is this going to be?

00:56:56.840 Like, is it going to be Twisted Peppermint?

00:56:58.140 But it isn't.

00:56:58.640 This is actually a new fragrance, in my opinion, at least of one I've smelled that's gone wide.

00:57:03.660 And this actually, oh my God, like when I smelled this immediately, I was like, whoa, like core memory unlocked, core fragrance memory unlocked.

00:57:12.540 And I was like, oh my God, this smells like marshmallow musk or vanilla musk with peppermint.

00:57:18.100 Yeah, it's nice.

00:57:19.640 It's pretty and it's cute.

00:57:21.940 So we'll see how it does.

00:57:23.200 So Snowden, right there.

00:57:26.300 Kent, oh Kent, oh no.

00:57:29.380 We've got a creamy buttermilk insurrection on our hands.

00:57:32.220 No one told Kent about it.

00:57:34.220 He's just sitting there rambling on about marshmallow musk with peppermint.

00:57:38.880 Oh, Kent, I hope you're watching.

00:57:41.360 Please don't cancel Kent.

00:57:42.940 The guy just enjoys sniffing candles.

00:57:44.960 He doesn't know he's holding a lovely smelling symbol of white supremacy.

00:57:48.640 The Ku Klux Klandl. 0.81

00:57:50.620 Because look, in America, there are very fine candles on both sides.

00:57:54.640 Yes, even that frosted coconut snowball nonsense.

00:57:58.240 But to those secret racists pushing subconscious white supremacist messaging, when we are just 0.55

00:58:05.080 trying to sniff some of that sweet musk, cozy vanilla, and creamy buttermilk, we are saying

00:58:11.500 thanks, but no thanks.

00:58:14.380 And thank all of you for joining me today.

00:58:17.760 We'll see you next time.

00:58:18.600 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. 0.94

00:58:24.060 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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