An issue that has helped define this show since its inception, not to mention my own life in recent years, is now front and center in campaign 2024, and it s about time. Imagine waking up one day to find out your home no longer belongs to you. That someone somewhere has stolen your property right out from under you. It sounds unthinkable, but it s a sad reality for some American homeowners and a risk for anyone that owns property.
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00:19:10.000I don't want boys playing in girls' sports.
00:19:13.320He had the chance to sign on to a law that would have prohibited it, and he voted no.
00:19:19.300More than that, in June of 2023, he co-sponsored a law that, quote, would force public schools to allow biologically male athletes who identify as transgender on the girls' sports teams.
00:19:34.000He co-sponsored the law to require it in public schools.
00:19:49.880In March of 2023, he co-sponsored a resolution, quote, recognizing that it is the duty of the federal government to develop and implement a transgender bill of rights.
00:20:01.040It specifically calls for federal law to ensure that biological men can participate on sports teams and in programs that best align with their gender identity and use school facilities that best align with their gender identity.
00:20:18.320He just looked you in the eye and told you that wasn't true.
00:20:22.280He's not trying to allow boys into girls' sports.
00:20:26.540In February, back in February of 2021, he co-sponsored and voted for a revised version of the disgusting, quote, Equality Act.
00:20:38.540Under this act, an individual shall not be denied access to a shared facility, including a restroom, a locker room, and a dressing room that is in accordance with that individual's gender identity.
00:20:54.420He co-sponsored a mandate that would require boys to have access to your daughter's bathroom, locker room, and dressing room.
00:22:09.580CNN now forced, thanks to The Times giving this attention, thanks to The Wall Street Journal finally giving this attention, CNN now finally forced to note this is becoming quite an issue in this race.
00:22:23.740So the bottom line is Republicans are running on this issue because it's a winning issue for them.
00:22:28.720In fact, it's a rare issue that unites Republicans and divides Democrats.
00:23:07.100And you'll see that when we get closer to Christmas.
00:23:09.740But we also got into one of the most chilling murders we've ever discussed on this show.
00:23:16.260The case centers around a biological man who's now serving a life sentence in California for luring an innocent couple onto their own boat that they were trying to sell.
00:23:27.820He posed as a potential buyer, got them to come onto their own boat, ostensibly to, you know, kick the tires and see if he wanted to buy it.
00:23:37.000And instead, he tied them to an anchor and threw them overboard.
00:23:42.660This sick guy recently underwent a taxpayer-funded sex change operation in California, thanks to Kamala Harris.
00:24:21.120What happened in California was there were a couple of people who wanted this, who were in the prison system.
00:24:29.280And there was one named Jeffrey Bryan Norsworthy, who in 2015 was serving a prison sentence for murder, who sued the state's prison system to compel them to pay for a sex change operation.
00:24:43.180Her office initially oversaw California's fight to block that surgery.
00:24:49.680This was back in the days where we knew this was wrong.
00:24:52.860The inmate wound up paroled right before the state had to cover the cost.
00:25:13.100They were still battling with this guy Norsworthy, who ultimately was paroled before they had to cover the costs.
00:25:19.740But in comes this guy, Rodney Quine, and the state's still engaged in this ongoing battle with Norsworthy.
00:25:26.480And at this point, Harris negotiated a settlement, quoting here from the Free Beacon, in which the state paid for Quine's sex change surgery and hundreds of thousands of dollars in attorney's fees.
00:26:28.900Quine gets imprisoned, and thanks to Kamala Harris, Quine gets a sex change operation in prison on the California taxpayer's dime, including the daughter of the victim, who said this is a slap in the face.
00:26:43.640I am paying for the sex change operation of the man who killed my father over $33 and a car, notwithstanding my father's begging for mercy, begging to have his life spared.
00:27:01.620She was forced by you, Kamala Harris, to pay for that operation.
00:27:06.780And here is Kamala Harris's, in her own words, bragging about that role she played in changing the policy in California.
00:27:18.660When I was attorney general, I learned that the California Department of Corrections, which was a client of mine, I didn't get to choose my clients, that they were standing in the way of surgery.
00:27:36.240And when I learned about the case, I worked behind the scenes to not only make sure that that transgender woman got the services she was deserving.
00:27:47.200I made sure that they changed the policy in the state of California so that every transgender inmate in the prison system would have access to the medical care that they desired and need.
00:28:00.840And I believe it was not only, I know it was historic in California, but I believe actually it may have been one of the first, if not the first in the country where I pushed for that policy.
00:29:07.340You did as Attorney General and you certainly would as President.
00:29:11.540So do you or do you not stand by your 2019 ACLU questionnaire where you said you wanted at the federal level to mandate taxpayer-funded sex change operations in every prison?
00:29:27.180And will you promise the voters that you will work to undo any policy that now exists that requires it?
00:29:46.760She not only made sure this guy Quine got a sex change surgery on the taxpayer's dime, but she made sure this other guy, who Matt Murphy told us about, got the same.
00:29:59.060And he is one of the most disgusting criminals in California history.
00:30:05.660Here's my interview with 27-year prosecutor Matt Murphy on that.
00:30:11.540Matt, I've got to ask you about this case.
00:30:17.720Team Trump has realized in the waning days of this campaign that the insanity that's happening with respect to women's rights versus trans rights is a very hot election issue.
00:30:31.240You're starting to see this issue with, in particular, Democrats being on the wrong side of this, raised in the Texas Senate race, in Wisconsin, in Michigan, and at the presidential level between Trump and Harris.
00:30:45.000He's got an ad running in almost every NFL game reminding people that Kamala Harris both wrote explicitly that she's in favor of taxpayer-funded sex change operations for prisoners and for illegal immigrants and that she's on camera bragging about having done it in California.
00:31:05.920And you were the prosecutor of the one man in particular who's been in the news, thanks to the Free Beacon, which raised this, who she basically, I mean, he can thank his taxpayer-funded sex change operation in California to Kamala Harris.
00:31:48.120This is a guy who, this is one of the worst murders that I'd ever seen, that I ever encountered in my 17 years exclusively of doing homicide cases.
00:31:57.880Essentially what he did was he, there's a couple named Tom and Jackie Hawks who retired and bought a yacht called the Well-Deserved, and their dream was to sail off into the sunset.
00:32:09.680And they had a grandson, and they decided to sell their boat and move back to Arizona to help raise the grandson.
00:32:18.160And these are salt of the earth, wonderful people who really loved each other.
00:32:22.780She was 47, he was 57, and they went out on what's called a sea trial, which is basically a test drive for a yacht.
00:32:30.060And they sail out, and they were tied to an anchor, begging for their lives, and thrown overboard.
00:32:39.600And the person who did that as a part of this huge conspiracy was Skyler de Leon.
00:32:44.800And as we're investigating their disappearance, we find an Interpol liaison card for the LAPD.
00:32:52.100It turns out Skyler was responsible for a completely different murder about 10 months earlier down in Mexico of a guy named John Peter Jarby, who Skyler lured down there, cut his throat on the side of the road, and took $50,000 off of him as a part of another big manipulative, hey, we have a no-lose, probably convinced him they had a drug deal down there or something like that.
00:33:15.020And Skyler de Leon is one of the most vicious, cruelest, and sadistic human beings that has ever existed in the United States of America.
00:33:26.320This guy lured – he brought his baby onto the boat to lure these people into a false sense of security so they would trust him enough to go out to sea with them, and then literally force them to sign bill of sale documents indicating that they had sold the boat to Skyler.
00:33:43.480They took them out to sea. Jackie Hawks was begging for her life. Tom and Jackie are – they subdued them with stun guns.
00:33:51.800They tasered Jackie Hawks as they physically overwhelmed her husband.
00:33:58.260They threatened each one and basically saying, if you don't sign this, we are going to – we're going to hurt your – we're going to hurt your husband.
00:34:05.740If you don't sign it, we're going to hurt your wife.
00:34:07.160But Tom, who is a retired probation officer and fireman, somebody who really contributed to the world and society, he said, you know, just don't hurt my wife.
00:34:18.340And once they got the form sign, instead of bringing them in like they promised, they took them out to sea, knowing that they were going to die.
00:34:26.680Tom Hawks was stroking his wife's hand, who was still saying, I need to see my grandchild one more time, stroking her hand, saying it's okay, we're going to be together.
00:34:35.500And then they literally took him out on the standstill of the boat, tied him to an anchor, and threw the anchor in the cold November ocean off of Catalina Island and drowned them.
00:34:47.540And that guy – so Skyler had $50,000 in cash after the murder of John Jarvie.
00:34:54.180Now, all this sex change stuff, he had enough money to get the sex change 10 months before.
00:34:59.640And that was allegedly one of the motives, like one of the reasons he wanted the money was so he could pay for his own?
00:35:17.600He was in the Marine Corps for about a minute before he went AWOL, but he had a force recon tattoo and tell everybody he was in the special forces in the Marine Corps.
00:35:26.580This guy – so I was a DA for 26 years, Megan.
00:35:30.120This is the best liar I have ever seen of all of them, Ed Shin, of all of them.
00:35:36.280This guy showed up with these documents, and Tom and Jackie Hawks were missing.
00:36:10.840He was a pathological liar who would – any tale he could tell that could manipulate somebody into giving them something that he wanted, he would do it over and over and over again.
00:36:22.700So he had $50,000 in cash after the murder of John Jarvie, and they blew it on – they bought a new car.
00:36:29.820He bought a $900 sex toy the day – like, the day he murdered Jarvie, he crosses back into the United States, finds this thing online, and purchases it with the money.
00:36:42.220So he has this – he has a little spending spree.
00:36:45.320They go through the money in about 48 hours, buying stuff, frivolous things.
00:36:50.220So the idea that he committed this murder out of some desire to have gender-reaffirming surgery is absolutely bogus.
00:37:01.280This is a manipulation where he's taking advantage of the trans community, and he's garnering sympathy so that he can get additional privileges, so that he can get sympathy, so that he can get trips out of the prison.
00:37:46.260I'm as, like, live and let live as you can possibly get.
00:37:50.760This man and what he did, nobody should be taking him onto their team.
00:37:56.260This guy manipulates – at least this time people aren't going to die because they believe his bullshit.
00:38:02.020But the idea that this man is worthy of any sympathy or our tax dollars to do this, he's a condemned prisoner.
00:38:10.040He's been sentenced to death, okay, and I know California has a moratorium on it.
00:38:14.740I understand he'll never be executed in the state of California.
00:38:16.880But the idea that we are spending precious medical resources to give Styler de Leon, not like a burglar who's in there who was on the eve of his surgery and got arrested, but this man who murdered these three people, especially Tom and Jackie Hawks, is a slap in the face to the victims.
00:38:34.240It really is, and it is something that people – people should educate themselves about this case.
00:38:40.520And part of the problem is the media that's coming out on it, they're identifying him with his birth name as John Julius Jacobson.
00:38:48.820He changed his name legally, and he did it after he went AWOL from the Marine Corps in part to make it harder for them to track him down.
00:38:56.920But this guy, this is a ruthless psychopath that used his kid, used his infant child, brought his child onto the boat with the express purpose of luring Tom and Jackie Hawks into a false sense of security.
00:39:13.380He literally said that to his wife, hey, you got to bring the kid, bring Haley down here so that we can put these people at ease so we can take them out to sea.
00:39:21.620This is a – you don't get any more vicious as far as killings go.
00:39:27.140You don't get any darker or more disturbing.
00:39:29.880And the idea that we're spending precious medical resources on this guy, in my view, is morally wrong.
00:39:38.880You know, like it's just – that's not a political statement.
00:39:41.280Even by Kamala Harris's logic, it's to alleviate his emotional stress in being trapped in the wrong body.
00:40:28.400I don't know where they have him housed right now.
00:40:30.520Last I checked, which wasn't that long ago, he was still in San Quentin.
00:40:33.340But now – so now he is a woman under the laws of the state of California.
00:40:39.400Fine, but can you really house him with men anymore?
00:40:41.900So he's been trying to get – from the minute he was arrested, in our case, Megan, he was trying to get transferred over to the women's jail.
00:40:49.980He was wearing women's – he came in with contraband, women's T-shirts.
00:40:55.560Like he's been – this has been his thing since he was arrested.
00:41:10.940I have no beef with anybody that – any adult that wants to go through that surgery.
00:41:15.840But when you have been sentenced to death for one of the most vicious and depraved murders that turned out to be three murders because he murdered another innocent guy, you know, what are we doing?
00:41:48.740And it's because of her, quote, good work that after she left, but he benefited from the policies, this guy was able to bill the California taxpayers, the truckers, the waitresses, the nurses, for this so-called reassignment surgery.
00:42:04.620Listen, in my circle of friends, I have plenty of – my best friend in the whole world is a died-in-the-wall Democrat, okay?
00:42:11.700Some of the best judges I've tried cases in front of are Democrats.
00:42:15.740Every Democrat I know in my world is outraged by the fact that Schuyler de Leon was given this surgery.
00:42:24.240Like, this is not even a Democrat-Republican thing.
00:42:27.860I don't think – this is a common sense, like, right and wrong thing.
00:42:33.140Like, this is – like, it's a slap in the face to the victim's families that will never get over the horror of this murder.
00:42:49.600I don't know what's happening in my state.
00:42:51.120I just – this is one of those things – again, this is – from my view, this transcends politics.
00:42:59.540This is a waste of resources for somebody that – you know, like – I mean, there are better uses for that money because that's taxpayer.
00:43:29.520No, we're now funding his ongoing fraud, which may very well end up with him in a woman's prison, which California is doing by the dozens, and probably a woman getting hurt.
00:43:42.580I mean, that's honestly how these things have been going.
00:43:45.380More articulate than I could have put it, it is an ongoing fraud.
00:44:46.160We've all had that conversation as kids.
00:44:47.880The only – the haunting image that everybody is left with is how do you cry and try to hold your breath at the same time?
00:44:55.540That's the discomfort that Jackie Hawks was put through.
00:44:58.660That's what they did to totally innocent people.
00:45:00.920The idea that we're spending precious medical resources in an ongoing fraud to make somebody more comfortable when he made no provision for anybody else's comfort in one of the most cruel, sadistic murders I ever saw.
00:45:15.660It is just – it makes me lose sleep.
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00:56:58.640This is actually a new fragrance, in my opinion, at least of one I've smelled that's gone wide.
00:57:03.660And this actually, oh my God, like when I smelled this immediately, I was like, whoa, like core memory unlocked, core fragrance memory unlocked.
00:57:12.540And I was like, oh my God, this smells like marshmallow musk or vanilla musk with peppermint.