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00:01:00.840 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:02.600 Live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:01:06.280 Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:15.820 You're not going to believe this. I mean, you are totally going to believe this.

00:01:21.560 Let me, can I just show you something? Let's just do it this way.

00:01:25.140 Can we play Natalie Portman? Natalie Portman is super upset.

00:01:28.240 I'm going to show you some breaking news about the man she's crying over.

00:01:32.280 But here's Natalie Portman.

00:01:34.220 What's going on in our country right now is absolutely horrific with what the federal government,

00:01:41.280 Trump's government, Kristi Noem, ICE, what they're doing is really the worst of the worst of humanity.

00:01:48.980 And then we also have the best of the best of humanity for the way people are showing up for each other in community

00:01:55.100 and Americans coming out to support each other and protect each other and fight against injustice.

00:02:01.360 So I'm, I could not be prouder to be American right now by the way the Americans are acting.

00:02:08.600 And I could not be sadder to be American right now with the way the government is behaving.

00:02:13.480 It's, sorry I'm getting so emotional because it's, it's really been, it's such a horrible day.

00:02:21.060 It's been a horrible week.

00:02:23.700 And, um, it's, um, very joyful to be at a film festival.

00:02:28.880 And in a creative community, celebrating film together.

00:02:33.320 But what is happening in our country is just obscene.

00:02:39.180 And what Trump and Kristi Noem and ICE are doing to our citizens is,

00:02:45.920 and, and to undocumented people is outrageous and needs to end.

00:02:53.560 Okay.

00:02:54.700 No one gives a shit about Natalie Portman's political opinion,

00:02:57.340 but she's representative of these far left loons, the Karen Intifada that we've been watching in Minneapolis.

00:03:04.540 And that was after we learned about the death of Alex Preddy on Saturday.

00:03:08.960 She managed to gin up some tears.

00:03:10.660 She's an actress.

00:03:11.740 So, yeah.

00:03:12.600 Um, over this guy, you know, cause he was just like this poor innocent guy.

00:03:17.540 And the left won't even really, they're not even loving the term protester for him.

00:03:21.120 It's like, they're basically calling him like a good Samaritan.

00:03:23.960 Listen, just, just directing traffic that, okay.

00:03:27.100 He was interfering with a federal law enforcement operation.

00:03:30.060 He was not directing traffic.

00:03:31.160 Like, Hey, watch out for the federal officers.

00:03:32.900 He was like, yeah, right this way.

00:03:34.480 If you want to block ice, that, that he was obviously an agitator, an anti ice agitator.

00:03:42.100 That's been really clear.

00:03:43.220 We, of course, have reported that here at the MK show and on AM update.

00:03:47.660 And now we get this report from CNN.

00:03:50.440 It just hit right before we came to air.

00:03:53.380 And it is the headline from CNN, uh, in a piece by Jeff Winter and Priscilla Alvarez is Alex Preddy broke rib in confrontation with federal agents a week before death.

00:04:04.320 Sources say I'll give you the highlights now, and then we're bringing on ruthless to react federal immigration officials or officers have been collecting personal information about protesters and agitators in Minneapolis.

00:04:16.800 There's just told CNN and had documented details about Alex Preddy before he was shot to death on Saturday.

00:04:22.800 It is unclear how Preddy first came to the attention of federal authorities, but sources told CNN that about a week before his death, he suffered a broken rib when a group of federal officers tackled him while he was protesting their attempt to detain other individuals.

00:04:39.100 The earlier incident started when Preddy stopped his car after observing ICE agents chasing what he described as a family on foot and began shouting and blowing his whistle, according to a source who asked not to be named out of fear of retribution.

00:04:56.460 Preddy later told the source that five agents tackled him and one leaned on his back, an encounter that left him with a broken rib.

00:05:04.420 The agents quickly released him at the scene.

00:05:06.820 That day, he thought he was going to die, said the source.

00:05:11.500 Preddy was later given medication consistent with treating a broken rib, according to the records reviewed by CNN.

00:05:17.020 So they have confirmed that he was in some sort of an altercation with ICE, leaving him with his broken rib.

00:05:22.260 The form titled Intel Collection Non-Arrests allows agents to fill in personal information of agitators and protesters who they encounter.

00:05:31.640 Preddy's name was known to federal agents.

00:05:34.100 Got it.

00:05:34.520 His name was known to the federal agents.

00:05:37.080 That's how active he had been, according to a source, though it's unclear whether the new intake form was used to share his information.

00:05:43.300 It's also not clear whether the federal agents who encountered him on Saturday recognized him before they confronted him.

00:05:48.580 If they did, it would be highly relevant, of course.

00:05:51.780 But it's not necessary.

00:05:52.840 What this is is confirmation that this guy was out there looking for a fight.

00:05:57.300 He had already interfered with ICE conducting its lawful operations out there and trying, as it sounds here, to abduct, to arrest a family that was fleeing, obviously, with probable cause to believe that they were illegal.

00:06:13.100 Well, that's fine.

00:06:14.660 That's their job.

00:06:16.140 That's what Barack Obama did, too.

00:06:17.580 And he thought it was his business to interfere, to inject himself in that situation and found himself on the wrong end of ICE operators.

00:06:27.940 And did that give him one modicum of hesitation to do it again?

00:06:33.860 Do you think now, with a broken bone and having been roughed up by officers, as you or I would be if we had done what Alex Preddy had done that first time, he learned anything?

00:06:45.640 Did he understand that when you interfere in a lawful ICE operation or Border Patrol operation, you are placing yourself in physical danger?

00:06:58.000 Broken bones and worse can happen to you.

00:07:01.020 Of course he did.

00:07:02.600 Of course he did.

00:07:03.860 We knew that yesterday.

00:07:06.380 We knew that Sunday.

00:07:07.600 We knew that Saturday.

00:07:09.720 We didn't need this report to confirm it, but it does.

00:07:12.740 It's not going to change a thing about how the far left reacts to this.

00:07:17.820 Maybe they'll count it as another brutalization by the evil ICE.

00:07:21.660 No, that's not what this proves.

00:07:23.120 It proves this guy was an agitator and he was part of the terror crew that felt they could insert themselves

00:07:32.600 in between a cop and his target, which is putting your life on the line 10 times out of 10.

00:07:40.480 No sane person thinks they can do that without risking their life.

00:07:45.020 No one, especially not in Minneapolis, where these guys are being terrorized, the ICE agents and the Border Patrol agents.

00:07:54.160 He knew it was assumption of the risk.

00:07:57.700 That's a legal defense when you get charged with, say, accused of negligence in a civil tort claim, right?

00:08:08.800 When somebody's trying to seek money from you.

00:08:10.440 Don't come onto my property.

00:08:13.000 It's super icy today.

00:08:14.260 Snow is everywhere.

00:08:15.120 I can't ensure your safety.

00:08:16.700 I see the snow.

00:08:17.580 I see the ice.

00:08:18.280 I'm going to come anyway.

00:08:19.180 I have special boots.

00:08:20.300 I'll be fine.

00:08:21.160 Slip, fall, lawsuit for negligence in maintaining the property in an unsafe way.

00:08:26.520 Defense, you assume the risk.

00:08:28.980 It was disclosed.

00:08:30.420 You knew about it.

00:08:31.320 You came anyway.

00:08:32.980 The defendant wins that case.

00:08:34.160 But it is a concept in the law that relieves a defendant of a legal burden.

00:08:40.780 And it applies, in theory, in a criminal case, too.

00:08:44.100 I mean, it's basically a self-defense case.

00:08:46.200 But my point is simply, this guy knew very well, very well, what was going to happen to him if he, yet again, injected himself in the middle of a Border Patrol enforcement operation.

00:09:00.380 But he did it anyway.

00:09:01.840 I'm not shocked.

00:09:05.460 You're not shocked.

00:09:07.200 We don't give a shit what Natalie Portman thinks or doesn't think about this.

00:09:11.820 I'm just showing you her fake fucking tears.

00:09:14.320 I mean, like, where were her tears for Lake and Riley?

00:09:16.780 I don't remember her tearful video over Jocelyn Nangare down in Texas.

00:09:21.960 Did you cry for her, you rich bitch, who's protected by guards and fences and multimillion dollar estates from having to deal with anything?

00:09:31.840 Like what these Border Patrol agents are going through or these ICE agents are going through in order to protect people who don't have your money and means and resources?

00:09:40.960 Tell it to Jocelyn's mother as you cry while these guys are trying to deport molesters of children.

00:09:50.780 You fucking idiot, know-nothing Hollywood starlet.

00:09:56.380 Honestly, it's infuriating to watch them.

00:09:58.660 It's not just her.

00:09:59.660 Here's Jimmy Kimmel.

00:10:00.600 All right, let's look at Jimmy Kimmel.

00:10:02.160 Say every single word I just said about Portman applies to this loser, too.

00:10:06.120 Watch.

00:10:06.400 And to the people of Minneapolis, to the pretty family and the good family and these people who were looking out for their neighbors, we want you to know that we are with you and you are not alone.

00:10:19.120 So, cried.

00:10:28.920 He cried.

00:10:30.820 Where were his tears for Elizabeth Medina?

00:10:33.500 A young teenager who lived in Texas and Houston when an illegal went into her home, possibly to burglarize it, saw her and brutalized her to death.

00:10:46.680 Her mother found her dead in the bathtub when she didn't show up to a parade later that day.

00:10:50.720 Here she is in her cheerleading uniform.

00:10:52.840 Do you remember Natalie Portman crying for Elizabeth?

00:10:54.940 I don't remember.

00:10:55.680 By the way, the guy pleaded guilty to her murder and could still potentially get out on parole in 30 years and he's a young man.

00:11:04.000 I don't remember Jimmy Kimmel shedding tears over Elizabeth.

00:11:07.520 Jimmy, why don't we care about her?

00:11:10.800 Why do we only care about illegals who are getting arrested by ICE and Border Patrol and the agitators who try to keep them there, who try to keep them free so they can have access to Elizabeth.

00:11:24.900 And Jocelyn and Lakin.

00:11:27.760 Save your acting for someone who cares.

00:11:32.160 Save your fake tears, which in Jimmy Kimmel's case are always about himself.

00:11:38.360 All he really has to do is gin up the moment when he almost got canceled.

00:11:41.960 Oh, my God.

00:11:42.840 He wasn't going to be in front of the Klieg likes again.

00:11:45.240 He was going to be reduced to podcasting.

00:11:47.020 What's it all?

00:11:47.980 And he can cry like that.

00:11:49.780 It's easy for him.

00:11:51.280 It's easy for Natalie Portman.

00:11:52.920 Okay.

00:11:53.240 She grew up a child actress.

00:11:55.560 God only knows what that did to her.

00:11:57.860 I mean, seriously, what kind of a sane parent puts their child into child acting in this environment?

00:12:03.720 But that's what was done to her.

00:12:05.500 So maybe it's probably easy for her to gin up the tears, too.

00:12:08.420 You would have thought that it was so easy.

00:12:10.240 She would have spared one for Jocelyn or one for Lisbeth.

00:12:14.100 Just one.

00:12:14.800 You know, just what would that video look like?

00:12:17.580 Do you think you could spare time at the Cannes Film Festival for the young teenage girls murdered in their homes?

00:12:24.340 Or Jocelyn sexually assaulted and thrown over a bridge?

00:12:27.920 Do you have like even just like a welling of the eyes for her, Natalie?

00:12:31.360 No.

00:12:33.460 It's all fucking performative.

00:12:35.400 That won't get them likes, you see.

00:12:37.700 They're not going to get snaps at Cannes for that.

00:12:41.380 They're only going to get it for dumping on law enforcement.

00:12:44.980 It could be a cop.

00:12:46.060 It could be a Fed.

00:12:47.780 It could be a National Guardsman.

00:12:49.180 It could be an ICE agent.

00:12:50.240 It could be a Border Patrol agent.

00:12:51.340 They don't care.

00:12:52.460 They don't care.

00:12:53.040 Just try to look like you hate Trump and it's a win.

00:12:58.100 Okay?

00:12:58.520 That's your main goal as a Hollywood actress.

00:13:02.260 It's disgusting.

00:13:04.080 And now we know.

00:13:05.660 You're shedding tears over a man who knew full well the danger he was assuming when he injected himself into an ICE operation, a Border Patrol operation, with which he had no business.

00:13:19.800 None whatsoever.

00:13:20.700 Okay.

00:13:21.160 Let's get to our guests.

00:13:22.080 Joining me now, the guys from the great hit program, Ruthless.

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00:14:37.860 Guys, welcome back.

00:14:40.300 Unbelievable.

00:14:41.000 Thoughts?

00:14:41.880 Unbelievable.

00:14:43.240 Look, I think your summary was very, very well said.

00:14:48.140 Today's left, there is no right and wrong.

00:14:52.280 It's performative, and it requires a permission slip for what is right and what is wrong from political leaders.

00:14:59.580 I think this is why one of my great takeaways from what's happening in Minnesota is the permission slip that was granted by the governor, Tim Walz, to the left when he said,

00:15:10.940 we're at war with the federal government, from the mayor who said, get the F out, ICE, and what that did for not only the furthest reaches of the far left in Minnesota, but activists nationwide.

00:15:24.860 They're funded by God knows.

00:15:26.900 I mean, I think we do know who, but is it provided a permission slip for them to go in and erase what is right and what is wrong and just simply try to oppose law enforcement, which, as we know, doesn't end well.

00:15:39.660 And you summarized pretty aptly.

00:15:42.220 I think my bigger issue here is, like you mentioned this, Alex Kapp.

00:15:46.500 He is a guy who is a far left activist, clearly somebody who wants to cause a lot of trouble one way or another for ideologies that he doesn't agree with.

00:15:56.780 But he also has a governor who told him it's okay.

00:15:59.460 It's okay to put yourself in that position because the state of Minnesota has your back.

00:16:03.960 And when you do something like that, there's a profound vacuum of leadership that allows for these sorts of things to happen.

00:16:12.960 That's where this thing has gotten entirely off the rails because if you look at this from eight years ago, Barack Obama deported far more people than Donald Trump has even conceived of deporting at this point.

00:16:26.700 And there wasn't a peep out of any of these people.

00:16:29.940 We didn't hear anything about the trouble we had in communities.

00:16:34.360 In fact, we heard the opposite when Donald Trump literally just continued the same policies that Barack Obama had.

00:16:42.520 And all of a sudden it was kids in cages and family deportation.

00:16:45.480 This was making the rounds this morning online on X, and it's Barack Obama in 2010.

00:16:50.420 Let's listen, and then I'll give it back to you.

00:16:52.100 There are those in the immigrants' rights community who have argued passionately that we should simply provide those who are illegally with legal status or at least ignore the laws on the books and put an end to deportation until we have better laws.

00:17:13.820 And often this argument is framed in moral terms.

00:17:17.020 Why should we punish people who are just trying to earn a living?

00:17:20.280 But I believe such an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair.

00:17:25.380 It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally that there will be no repercussions for such a decision.

00:17:32.140 And this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration.

00:17:37.420 And it would also ignore the millions of people around the world who are waiting in line to come here legally.

00:17:42.340 Ultimately, ultimately, our nation, like all nations, has the right and obligation to control its borders and set laws for residency and citizenship.

00:17:53.860 And no matter how decent they are, no matter their reasons, the 11 million who broke these laws should be held accountable.

00:18:01.280 So, yeah, I mean, that unbelievable that I mean, it it's right on.

00:18:06.180 It's it's it's in full support.

00:18:07.980 You would think of Homan and Noem and Bovino and all these guys out there trying to clean up our streets.

00:18:12.860 I mean, that guy wouldn't have a prayer of winning a Democratic primary with that point of view today.

00:18:17.200 We'll be considered a right wing Nazi at this point.

00:18:19.540 I think the difference between then and now he framed it as morals, right?

00:18:23.460 Like it's, you know, moral to allow these people to stay here.

00:18:27.200 I don't think the left really even puts it into moral terms now.

00:18:30.580 It's just straight nihilism, right?

00:18:32.540 It's that laws don't apply.

00:18:33.920 And the foundation of which is no one is illegal on stolen land.

00:18:37.680 And if that is the permission structure you're operating under, there are no there are no laws.

00:18:42.160 You can do whatever you want.

00:18:43.700 You can obstruct justice.

00:18:45.360 You can get in the way and riot around law enforcement because any of that is justified if that's your precondition.

00:18:51.240 I mean, I would say one thing that's very interesting about that is that was in 2010.

00:18:55.360 That was when the Dems still had faith that there would be this Obama coalition of how they could establish a permanent majority in America just because the Dems were so popular in Obama, so charismatic.

00:19:06.940 I think starting in 2012, they changed their tune.

00:19:10.640 They were like, I don't think we have a permanent voting bloc in place.

00:19:16.000 And that's when you started to see more of this leaning into dreamers.

00:19:20.640 And we have to find a path to citizenship.

00:19:24.140 A path to voters is what they essentially want is we have seen what's happening in Minnesota where Democrats have realized there's a lot of money to be made and voters votes to be had.

00:19:34.300 If we just find these certain groups of people to pay off and let them run amok.

00:19:39.520 And that's what the Democrat Party has become essentially is they're happy to import voters that they can pay for who are reliable as opposed to having to deal with losing to Donald Trump, not only the Electoral College, but the popular vote.

00:19:51.540 Yeah, what Smug is saying is exactly right.

00:19:54.460 And we actually interviewed Tom Homan last week on the Ruthless podcast, and we asked him this exact question.

00:20:01.580 You know, you've been in law enforcement, border enforcement for an entire career.

00:20:05.300 You were given a medal by Barack Obama because you were doing such a good job.

00:20:09.520 At what point did you notice this shift between Democrats who were ostensibly for law and order to now where they are backing this foreign funded insurgency in Minnesota?

00:20:20.900 And he said that he identified what Smug was talking about and also said that when Trump came into office, Democrats were just like, we're going to oppose absolutely everything Trump does, no matter what it means for this country, because we think that's good politics for us.

00:20:35.440 Obviously, they learned in 2024 it wasn't such good politics for them.

00:20:39.520 But their party has gone off an absolute cliff.

00:20:43.300 I mean, under what circumstances would you align with foreign billionaires who are pumping money into ruining this country?

00:20:51.760 I think that the future for their party is very, very dicey.

00:20:57.560 And we'll see what happens in this midterm.

00:20:59.880 But, I mean, beyond that, Americans want a safe country.

00:21:03.380 We want a safe, safe communities and allowing these criminal illegals to just flood the streets.

00:21:12.120 That is not consistent with that.

00:21:14.120 Let me just make one more point, Megan, because you have to ask yourself, why is ICE there in the first place?

00:21:19.940 Why is federal law enforcement there in the first place?

00:21:22.140 They're there because Minneapolis released 460 criminal illegal aliens in the last year.

00:21:32.020 OK, the city of Minneapolis opened the jail doors and just released them back into the community.

00:21:37.680 There are another 1360 criminal illegal aliens sitting in jail and the federal federal enforcement just wants to remove them from the country rather than allow them to go back into our communities.

00:21:52.560 So they have an actual legitimate reason for being there, but the left will never tell you that.

00:21:59.100 They won't because Minneapolis is a sanctuary city and Minnesota, though not officially a sanctuary state, it is a sanctuary state.

00:22:06.160 And they don't cooperate with ICE the way they should and are required to under federal law, but they don't.

00:22:11.920 They don't call ICE, especially for the city and the county jails.

00:22:15.120 Bill Malusian was making this point on X yesterday that Tim Walz is saying that they do do that is lying.

00:22:20.480 While some of the state level will, the city and the county jails will not.

00:22:24.460 If they've got an illegal in there on whom there is a federal ICE detainer, they will not call ICE and they will not cooperate with ICE.

00:22:30.980 That's what a sanctuary city refuses to do, among other things.

00:22:34.620 Right.

00:22:35.020 I want to stay with these preening millionaires who have no idea.

00:22:40.340 They are like, it's amazing how they come out.

00:22:43.440 Look at Glenn Close.

00:22:44.960 Look at this nutcase.

00:22:46.000 I mean, she's played nutcases in a few films and she's an excellent actress.

00:22:50.480 And now I realize maybe she's not that great.

00:22:53.080 Maybe it's just method.

00:22:54.080 Maybe it's just her.

00:22:55.020 You know, it's like you ask me to go on some show and act like a news anchor.

00:22:59.100 Yeah, it'd be pretty easy for me.

00:23:00.340 I'll just be myself.

00:23:01.220 I think that's Glenn Close.

00:23:02.180 Here she is.

00:23:03.420 So we've watched for the rest of the world.

00:23:05.540 Our democracy is being systematically disemboweled and torn apart, along with the institutions,

00:23:12.340 which in the near past, though never perfect, have stabilized our society and supported the

00:23:19.060 American people.

00:23:19.960 I am outraged and sickened by what is happening under the Trump regime.

00:23:27.000 The cruelty, inhumanity, and arrogance, the voracious corruption, the cowardice, the sickening

00:23:37.840 hypocrisy, the blatant manipulation of facts, and now the cold-blooded murder of American

00:23:46.780 citizens.

00:23:47.540 Oh, my God.

00:23:48.000 Okay.

00:23:51.600 She played a lawyer in Jagged Edge named Teddy, and she was very good.

00:23:57.440 Glenn, it doesn't actually make you a lawyer.

00:23:59.460 Just to steal a line from Working Girl, doesn't make me badada.

00:24:03.020 Never will.

00:24:04.120 It doesn't make you a lawyer.

00:24:05.960 This is not murder, you absolute idiot.

00:24:08.960 Hello, Corrine Jean-Pierre in a blonde or gray wig.

00:24:12.420 She can't get through a one-minute statement without reading it?

00:24:15.440 Why don't you try, oh, what do you call it, ad-libbing?

00:24:18.380 I think that's what you actresses call ad-libbing.

00:24:20.680 Try to have an independent thought that comes from the heart, as opposed to reading down on

00:24:25.320 your fucking laptop, which is so obvious that's what you're doing, you couldn't even fake

00:24:29.160 it well.

00:24:29.920 Do you need cue cards?

00:24:31.140 Is that, if you don't have your cue cards, you can't say something intelligent?

00:24:34.360 I am sick of these multi-millionaires pulling this bullshit.

00:24:37.800 That leads me to Whoopi Goldberg, speaking of actresses who don't know how to act.

00:24:45.440 People on both sides of the aisle are saying the account from Gnome and Bovine does not

00:24:53.760 seem to match what they watched with their own two eyes.

00:24:58.580 So the question is, how long can they continue this?

00:25:02.160 They murdered a man.

00:25:04.380 He is standing, he has his phone, and he has a bottle of water.

00:25:08.140 He has his phone, and a bottle of water, and they shot him ten times.

00:25:16.800 What the?

00:25:17.620 Part of the torture that intelligent people have to endure being on this earth is being

00:25:27.160 surrounded by idiots like that.

00:25:29.160 It's not easy.

00:25:30.440 It's not easy.

00:25:31.580 You think it's easy, it's a gift to have two brain cells.

00:25:35.640 The audience is feeling it with me right now.

00:25:37.720 It's not.

00:25:38.280 It's not a gift.

00:25:39.140 It's actually a curse.

00:25:40.580 Sometimes I'd rather be an idiot.

00:25:41.780 I'd rather be somebody who can sit in that view audience and be like, yeah, he was just

00:25:46.080 standing there with his phone in his water bottle.

00:25:49.120 God, they're so mean.

00:25:51.400 You know, like, what's the name of that actress?

00:25:54.780 Yeah, it makes me want a hot dog real bad.

00:25:59.540 What's her name?

00:26:00.360 Jennifer Coolidge.

00:26:02.240 Like, life would be easier if you could be at that level of intellectual functioning.

00:26:08.720 Unfortunately for all of this audience and the gentlemen who are my guests today, we're

00:26:12.940 not there, and so it's incredibly frustrating to have to share our globe with these morons

00:26:17.860 who actually want to go out and spew misinformation like that on a case as important as this, you

00:26:23.020 guys.

00:26:23.480 It's unfair.

00:26:25.380 It's unfair to us.

00:26:26.280 Yeah, it's unfair to us, Megan.

00:26:27.520 And I'd also say it sort of feels fake to even debate these people at this point.

00:26:34.160 You know, when all of these encounters that are happening with ICE start with one of these

00:26:39.880 agitators assaulting officers and obstructing law enforcement, right?

00:26:45.380 But of course, all of that is forgotten in the debate of this entire thing.

00:26:49.080 We're supposed to, like, study tape like the Zabruder film and decide that these ICE agents

00:26:53.980 are evil.

00:26:55.040 It kind of depresses you because it makes you feel like if she's saying stuff like that,

00:27:00.020 then there's people that believe that.

00:27:01.440 Right.

00:27:01.660 Right?

00:27:02.220 Yeah, no, that's exactly right.

00:27:04.080 And this is just my own point of view, Megan.

00:27:06.920 But, I mean, honestly, I don't care how many times Glenn Close says she's not going to be

00:27:11.660 ignored.

00:27:12.220 I'm going to choose to continue to ignore her.

00:27:16.260 Don't you have a bunny to boil somewhere, Glenn?

00:27:18.660 What happened to that?

00:27:20.120 I mean...

00:27:20.800 I don't know.

00:27:21.600 She liked her better there.

00:27:22.940 It's just so profoundly disappointing because there's just not a fundamental commitment to

00:27:28.780 the rule of law as they started.

00:27:30.140 There's just not.

00:27:31.540 It's partisan permission slips one way or another.

00:27:34.340 When you hear what they have to say, you wonder a lot about how those people would have

00:27:38.040 reacted in the 60s in the Deep South, where the federal government had to come in and make

00:27:43.200 sure that little black kids could go to school.

00:27:45.520 But the local environment didn't support it, and they were up in arms.

00:27:51.280 And it's a similar situation in many regards.

00:27:54.960 And then you look at what it is that this illegal immigrant community has done in Minneapolis

00:28:00.660 in terms of pedophilia, rape, murder, all the people that they're saying that they're picking

00:28:08.220 up now.

00:28:08.700 These are realistic community impact deals that they just want to ignore simply because

00:28:13.600 Donald Trump has made a commitment to remove these people.

00:28:17.320 And there is historical parallels.

00:28:19.880 I'm not saying the federal government is always right.

00:28:22.840 What I am saying is that if you are a decent human being, you will look at what this election

00:28:27.140 in 2024 was about and is about removing these sorts of people, removing illegal immigrants

00:28:33.260 who are committing crimes in our communities.

00:28:35.480 And just to cast that away and somehow side with a bunch of protesters who put themselves in

00:28:41.380 harm's way to try to prevent that from happening does reek a little bit of the 1960s, in my view.

00:28:48.020 I don't know if we have the will or the ability to actually do this, though.

00:28:52.320 Like, I was thinking about it over the weekend.

00:28:55.160 And, you know, Jesse Kelly, you know, Megan, you know, Jesse Kelly, he's talked for years

00:28:59.560 about this national divorce.

00:29:01.160 And I feel like we're on the brink of that, you know?

00:29:04.240 Like, I mean, there's some Americans who don't care about safe streets.

00:29:06.920 Okay, but we're getting custody of the children because the lunatics on the other side

00:29:10.680 don't want them exposed to them.

00:29:13.480 A very bad hombre.

00:29:14.420 Sorry, Megan, keep going.

00:29:15.240 ISIS is here to remove criminal illegal aliens.

00:29:18.360 They are not riot police.

00:29:19.980 Right.

00:29:20.320 Right.

00:29:20.840 Like, that's not their job.

00:29:22.560 And so at some level, if you have governors and you have citizens who are opposed to the

00:29:30.800 rule of law, how do you have a country with these people?

00:29:34.080 And so here's the thing is, I think specifically what we've seen unfold in Minneapolis and in

00:29:38.740 Minnesota is under the command of that corrupt governor, Waltz.

00:29:44.220 He's essentially told the police, step back and let the mayhem happen.

00:29:50.160 Because what the left, we just discussed how these people are vapid and they aren't concerned

00:29:55.520 about, well, you've had billions of dollars of fraud.

00:29:57.820 You've had murders committed by illegal aliens.

00:29:59.800 You've had all this crime that's committed by illegal aliens.

00:30:02.140 What the left is fundamentally now operating on is feelings and images.

00:30:07.980 So they want to put out an image of a child standing next to an ICE officer.

00:30:12.600 They don't want to talk about how the father abandoned him and they contacted the mother

00:30:16.740 and the mother has refused to pick up the child.

00:30:19.600 Yeah, but there's a lot of people who just see that headline or they're on Instagram and

00:30:25.580 they see the child and it's implanted into their head and there's 20% of the population

00:30:29.720 that only goes to that surface level of the thing.

00:30:33.480 And their ultimate goal there is just drive down the polls on supporting strong borders

00:30:38.380 and ICE.

00:30:39.360 And it works.

00:30:39.860 And so Waltz allowed the mayhem specifically and he ordered people, get out there with the

00:30:44.940 cameras.

00:30:45.720 I want you to film because he thinks this is all a joke.

00:30:49.140 He knows the left loves this like money train that they have going from all this corruption

00:30:53.520 where Keith Ellison's gotten money from people who have now been convicted of being part of

00:30:58.060 that Minnesota fraud.

00:30:59.080 So they see this as a money train.

00:31:00.680 He said, get out there, get me some good looking footage.

00:31:03.260 I want to see something that we can put on Instagram that we can have Hollywood people

00:31:06.560 put out.

00:31:07.300 And now you're starting to see that, okay, we got the footage that we needed.

00:31:11.460 If you muddy the water enough, your own culpability doesn't come to the fore.

00:31:16.680 Yeah.

00:31:17.080 And now we have, I don't know if we call it detente, but President Trump talked to Tim

00:31:24.020 Walls yesterday.

00:31:25.720 They agreed to take down the temperature that President Trump seems to be suggesting if

00:31:31.980 they would just give us the criminals in the jails, we'll leave.

00:31:35.760 That's not right.

00:31:37.420 I'm sorry, but that's incomplete.

00:31:39.860 That's actually not all that we want.

00:31:42.980 If you ask me, the American people favored the removal of, yes, criminal illegals, meaning

00:31:49.260 illegals who have committed additional crimes.

00:31:51.080 But what about the ones who are not sitting in the jail?

00:31:53.080 What about the ones who are still at large?

00:31:54.840 I want them caught.

00:31:55.840 I want them deported.

00:31:57.240 I'm not okay with just getting rid of the ones who are in the jails.

00:31:59.720 And secondly, the vast majority of Americans before this operation started wanted all illegals

00:32:03.920 deported, whether they'd committed a crime or not.

00:32:06.120 And I'm still amongst those people.

00:32:08.180 I want them gone.

00:32:09.520 I don't want this.

00:32:10.680 If we stop at just the ones who are in the jail, then this whole operation has worked.

00:32:15.080 Then we have shamed the administration out of doing what it was elected to do.

00:32:20.740 And it will be repeated in other blue cities to keep it limited to just the criminals who

00:32:24.800 have been arrested so far.

00:32:26.020 If that's the actual understanding, and as with anything, it's less than clear, as it's

00:32:31.400 like a true social post from which we're supposed to glean policy, then it's not good enough.

00:32:36.280 I mean, I'm all for taking the temperature down, but not by bending the knee.

00:32:40.660 This is an operation that is just and has majority support, or at least it did prior to

00:32:45.020 these leftist tactics.

00:32:46.620 And I understand we need to take the temperature down in terms of the polls and the midterms

00:32:50.500 and all that.

00:32:51.240 But we cannot stop at just the ones who happen to be sitting right now in the county jails

00:32:55.700 in Minneapolis.

00:32:56.260 Did you see that video, Megan, from a couple of nights ago from that hotel, which had been

00:33:01.100 ransacked by these left-wing lunatics, and there was only one federal officer there bleeding

00:33:07.560 from his head because he'd been hit by a brick or a rock or something, and he was left alone.

00:33:12.640 And people got footage of when the police had been called, they saw the scene, and they

00:33:17.940 pulled a U-turn and got out of there.

00:33:19.280 These men and women who've been out there are basically besieged.

00:33:24.940 Beyond left for dead, the governor of the state, the mayors, are all encouraging individuals

00:33:31.900 to do everything you can to hurt these people, dox them.

00:33:36.120 They're parts of these signal groups which have been coordinating.

00:33:38.500 And I've seen multiple veterans who served in Afghanistan and Iraq being like, looking

00:33:43.880 at this, this is exactly how we found the insurgency was operating when we're overseas, and to see

00:33:48.800 it at home is horrific.

00:33:50.800 And so that's what they're, the conditions that these people are under, trying to protect

00:33:54.900 us from these criminals.

00:33:55.940 Yeah, as a general rule of the left, very dumb.

00:33:59.400 Very dumb.

00:34:00.140 But they figured out a couple of different things.

00:34:02.340 One is this pervasive, profound intolerance for unpleasantness.

00:34:09.840 And if they can create unpleasantness, they can muddy the water on the ultimate objective,

00:34:16.040 no matter if it is, if it's rooting out fraud.

00:34:19.320 Remember Elon Musk with Doge?

00:34:22.120 Unpleasantness.

00:34:23.140 You can make that controversial just because it's unpleasant.

00:34:26.860 People are losing their jobs.

00:34:27.960 So we don't actually root out the billions and perhaps trillions in fraud.

00:34:34.960 Immigration.

00:34:35.800 Everybody says that they want all these folks deported, particularly the criminal illegals.

00:34:42.360 Unpleasantness.

00:34:42.940 And all of a sudden, then you get some people who are like, I don't know, I'm not sure.

00:34:46.560 And all of a sudden, your governing coalition starts to fade because of that critical demographic

00:34:53.700 that we're working with who doesn't like unpleasantness.

00:34:56.360 This is what they seize upon.

00:34:57.640 I mean, I understand it's a little in the weeds, but that is the playbook of the left.

00:35:04.360 Totally.

00:35:05.140 And I mean, you guys, you stole the name ruthless out of the ether from these terrible leftists

00:35:10.680 who actually are, right?

00:35:12.640 Like, you're actually sweet guys.

00:35:16.080 You're political strategists and you know what you're doing, but like, you're actually good

00:35:18.980 men.

00:35:19.640 These leftists are truly ruthless.

00:35:22.140 They will cut a bitch, man.

00:35:24.560 I mean, they will like, they don't care.

00:35:26.920 Yeah, they'll bite a finger off.

00:35:30.200 They'll kill Charlie Kirk without, they'll celebrate the death while his family's still

00:35:35.560 grieving.

00:35:36.400 No problem.

00:35:37.240 They'll do the finger with the neck.

00:35:39.240 You know, like that.

00:35:40.000 You know what's been super illuminating, Megan?

00:35:41.320 What's her name?

00:35:41.960 Garcia?

00:35:42.220 You go on X and you find these leftists who get like 5,000, 10,000 retweets of being

00:35:47.240 like, boy, ICE has no humanity.

00:35:49.680 The cruelty that they're displaying and the lack of compassion.

00:35:52.460 And you do a search on them for Charlie Kirk.

00:35:55.080 Yeah.

00:35:55.480 I mean, without fail.

00:35:56.860 Psychos.

00:35:57.280 They're spiking the football and enjoying the murder of an innocent man who tried to

00:36:01.380 just have a dog.

00:36:02.040 They're like, why can't we just bring down the temperature and have a discussion about

00:36:05.220 this?

00:36:05.520 Because you guys killed the guy who wanted that.

00:36:08.920 Or smug.

00:36:09.880 You'll see them barge into a Sunday service with children crying and terrified.

00:36:17.760 A woman running out, breaking her arm, according to the federal affidavit in support of the

00:36:22.380 arrest warrants.

00:36:23.380 And you'll have someone like Don Lemon saying, that trauma is all part of it.

00:36:27.380 That's part of the First Amendment.

00:36:29.520 The system's working as it should.

00:36:31.180 I mean, there's like a, just a, I don't know.

00:36:34.960 I saw the affidavit.

00:36:36.300 They were telling children to their face that, do you know your parents are Nazis and will

00:36:40.380 burn in hell?

00:36:41.020 They were telling children, children in church this.

00:36:44.580 I'm sorry, but this is not a tactic of the right.

00:36:46.800 Like the true ruthlessness is over there on the left.

00:36:51.360 Like, I'm sorry, but I don't, where is the right version, the right wing version of this

00:36:57.300 fucking nutcase named Melinda Cook, who works at VCU, which is a university, a hospital facility

00:37:04.580 down at, in Virginia, in Richmond.

00:37:07.700 Listen to this.

00:37:08.560 This is via libs of TikTok, SOT32.

00:37:11.280 Sabotage tactic, or at least scare tactic.

00:37:14.140 Um, all the medical providers, grab some syringes with needles on the end.

00:37:19.500 Have them full of saline or succinylcholine.

00:37:23.140 You know, whatever, whatever.

00:37:24.640 That will probably be a deterrent.

00:37:26.180 For today's resistance tip, I vote, um, anybody got any, uh, poison ivy, poison oak in their yard?

00:37:34.540 Get some of that up with gloves, obviously.

00:37:37.580 Get it in some water.

00:37:39.100 Get some, get the poison ivy oak water.

00:37:42.960 And I'm gonna put it into a water gun.

00:37:47.280 Aim for, aim for faces.

00:37:49.440 Hands.

00:37:49.840 All right, the single ladies where these ICE guys are going, get on Tinder, get on Hinge,

00:37:54.860 find these guys.

00:37:56.180 They're around.

00:37:58.000 They're an ICE agent, bring some ex-lax and put it in their drinks.

00:38:01.460 Get them sick.

00:38:03.880 Um, you know, nobody's gonna die.

00:38:06.800 Just enough to incapacitate them and get them off the street for the next day.

00:38:09.320 Okay, let's make their lives fucking miserable.

00:38:13.720 Okay, this is a working nurse filming herself in her scrubs and her surgical mask,

00:38:19.380 who clearly has ongoing access to patients, including Republican patients.

00:38:24.640 For all I know, she could be a, she could be in the ER when some ICE officer who's performing

00:38:30.260 his duties in Virginia has to go into the ER and, and he runs into this woman and she's

00:38:35.400 going to stick him with succinylcholine, which is, as I understand it, partially paratural,

00:38:39.320 paralyzes you, um, just to incapacitate him.

00:38:42.100 She's going to, what, slip a little, um, what'd she say, like Vizine or Lactin, whatever,

00:38:47.260 something to incapacitate you with ex-lax, uh, with diarrhea, when she's supposed to be

00:38:52.320 your caregiver.

00:38:52.860 And well, this is like, there's something seriously wrong with these nurses.

00:38:55.700 I'm like, let's not forget that Alex Preddy was also a nurse out there with his gun, having

00:39:01.160 had another, at the previous confrontation with law enforcement, they didn't say anything

00:39:04.980 about whether he was armed, but he came back the second time armed and loaded.

00:39:09.320 And I don't know what he had planned.

00:39:10.820 Kristi Noem's taking a beating for saying he planned to kill ICE officers or however she

00:39:15.940 put it, we'll play it.

00:39:17.120 But listen, she may have overstated it.

00:39:18.720 She may not have.

00:39:19.940 What do we know?

00:39:20.940 Why don't we watch the investigation play out?

00:39:22.940 But these nurses are absolutely fucking lunatics.

00:39:25.320 And VCU has now made a statement saying, um, we prioritize the health and safety of anybody

00:39:31.800 who comes here.

00:39:32.700 We're aware of a series of videos that appear to have been posted by an individual who is

00:39:36.360 confirmed to be an employee of our health system.

00:39:38.140 The content of the videos is highly inappropriate, does not reflect the integrity or values of

00:39:41.660 our health system.

00:39:42.700 VCU police are assisting with this investigation per policy while the investigation is underway.

00:39:46.280 The individual is on administrative leave and will not be in our facilities or interacting

00:39:49.940 with patients.

00:39:50.500 I mean, you know, if it's a he said, she said, if it's like, did the doctor give the

00:39:56.000 patient the wrong meds?

00:39:57.320 Maybe you put the person on leave while you conduct an investigation.

00:40:00.120 It's right there on video.

00:40:01.560 I don't know what they have to investigate.

00:40:03.300 She should be fired within the next hour.

00:40:06.380 And also, I mean, you're an attorney.

00:40:07.660 I don't need to tell you the liability that a hospital would open themselves up to if a conservative

00:40:12.820 were to die there, say, well, I have reason to believe that this health care system, VCU,

00:40:19.320 seems to have a bias against conservatives and encourages killing them because that drug

00:40:23.400 that she recommended using, if it's not administered by an anesthesiologist, it quite

00:40:27.360 often can be fatal.

00:40:28.500 So she's just saying, you know, well, let me ask you this, Smug.

00:40:31.100 Let me ask you this.

00:40:32.520 So this woman goes into VCU and she does it.

00:40:35.260 Let's say she does what she's telling everybody else to do and illegally administers an anesthetic

00:40:41.520 to a perfectly fine patient to incapacitate them physically and or mentally.

00:40:46.120 And that patient dies because she's not an anesthesiologist and she does it wrong.

00:40:50.460 And then who has responsibility for prosecuting her?

00:40:53.340 Why don't we look up the chain in the Commonwealth of Virginia?

00:40:56.080 Who's the top law enforcement officer there?

00:40:57.940 Well, that'd be Jay Jones who encourages the murder of not just Republicans, but their children.

00:41:03.640 Right.

00:41:04.520 I mean, this is what our poor friends in Virginia who are right-leaning, and there still are

00:41:07.880 millions of them, are dealing with in this state that has been made blue thanks to the

00:41:12.880 influx of residents from Washington, D.C. who vote blue and a bunch of illegals.

00:41:19.480 There's just a report out this morning about the two heavily Hispanic districts in Virginia

00:41:24.700 that put Abigail Spanberger over the top, which has got a bunch of immigrants who are

00:41:30.480 living there from places in Central and South America who who didn't want cooperation with

00:41:36.520 ICE, which is one of the first things she did.

00:41:39.520 You guys were talking about this on the Variety program the other day about how the one of

00:41:43.360 the very like the not one of the first thing she did was to end cooperation with ICE.

00:41:49.160 Yeah, I mean, listen, I think you got to get back to the basics at some level, because I

00:41:55.520 do think that the vast majority of Americans at some level understand that a functioning

00:42:00.180 judicial system is pretty imperative to our way of life.

00:42:04.740 But you've seen in blue places, I mean, we're talking about Minnesota, that's a great example.

00:42:09.700 We saw it in D.C. too, with a bunch of different arrests after the Trump National Guard deal and

00:42:15.920 everything else where they somebody would commit some kind of an assault and a jury would just

00:42:21.160 find them not guilty.

00:42:23.660 We got to get back to the basics on this stuff.

00:42:25.960 If you do not have a functioning court system or a system or a jury of your peers is basically

00:42:33.420 just a red lot, blue lot lineup.

00:42:37.120 And like if I get the vast majority of blue versus red, we have a mistrial or something else

00:42:43.060 and we can send people on their way. It's problematic. I mean, you're seeing this time

00:42:47.880 after time after time. It became a problem with the whole Alex Soros judge purchase. But now it's

00:42:55.360 beating into a point where you have elected officials who basically, I mean, it's almost a

00:42:59.660 litmus test of whether or not if you find a Democrat guilty of crimes, well, you're a sellout.

00:43:06.740 Well, I worry, though, about getting back to basics while in the midst of retreating on the

00:43:11.140 issue. And that's what I worry about with the Trump administration right now, because it's

00:43:15.220 entirely asymmetrical to, I think, the point we've all made here. It's like conservatives,

00:43:19.660 we want to protect our fellow American. These liberals, they want to kill us.

00:43:23.720 Exactly.

00:43:24.380 You know?

00:43:24.920 Yeah.

00:43:25.160 And so if we have some sort of detente that then turns into a retreat on enforcing the rule

00:43:30.080 of law, they're going to learn the lesson that they can win.

00:43:33.260 Yeah.

00:43:33.560 That they can win, that they kick enough mud up on the tires, they complain, they burn down

00:43:37.980 cities and they get their way. That's what they learned after George Floyd. And if they

00:43:41.740 learn it again, we're never going to get back to basics.

00:43:44.060 But I don't think that's remotely close to the response the Trump administration is having

00:43:49.200 in Minneapolis. They were like, oh, you don't like the guy in charge of the situation in

00:43:56.120 Minneapolis yesterday? Well, we're bringing John Wayne in tomorrow. Tom Holman is showing

00:44:00.480 up and he is going to clean these streets like you've never seen before. And he doesn't

00:44:04.620 care what you, about your whining. He is brought there with a job.

00:44:09.640 Okay. But Ashbrook, let me ask you something. I love Tom Holman. He's literally my favorite

00:44:14.320 administration official. But he's not going to do anything that President Trump doesn't

00:44:20.360 want him to do. So that's the question because he kind of goes in there right now, slightly

00:44:27.460 hobbled given the mess that's there. And it's no accident that he pulled Kristi Noem.

00:44:34.620 And he pulled Bovino, head of the Border Patrol. And then there was initially a report, a couple

00:44:40.920 of reports suggesting they were about to be turfed out, that Bovino is now retiring, that

00:44:45.120 Kristi Noem could not be potentially not long for her role, that she had a several hour meeting

00:44:50.720 with Trump at her request on Monday. She was not happy. She was being pulled. She realized

00:44:55.060 what it would look like. And I don't know whether that's true. I believe it's not true that

00:44:59.140 Kristi Noem's job is in danger. I don't know about Bovino. Now there are some reports that it was

00:45:03.180 more this guy right above him in between him and Kristi Noem named Rodney Scott, who may

00:45:10.880 have like kind of put out bad information on him because there's some sort of a turf war

00:45:13.820 going on. I don't know. But the point is, it doesn't look great. It certainly doesn't

00:45:17.900 look like Trump is endorsing what Noem and Bovino were doing in Minneapolis. So now Holman

00:45:22.880 goes in. What is he actually going to be empowered to do? That's the question. No more than

00:45:27.020 President Trump wants. Well, he doesn't do the whiz bang. Right? He just makes it happen.

00:45:31.960 There's no photo ops. There's no, you know, sort of show of force. It's just a matter of

00:45:37.600 doing your job, which I do think is appropriate in this thing. The other thing that I would

00:45:41.260 just say is like, look, there are 49 other states. And more importantly, there are a lot

00:45:45.180 of other blue states. Minnesota is not like the epicenter of illegal immigration. Far from

00:45:50.580 it. Wow. I bet it is. Who would have guessed? The guy from Minnesota is like, let up the

00:45:54.060 gas. From the billions and billions of dollars that have been stolen. I don't think sending

00:45:59.240 Tom Holman is enough. I think we should be sending the military. This is a state where

00:46:03.480 the governor has said, I have ordered law enforcement not to cooperate with the government officials

00:46:08.140 and has essentially legalized crime, has said that earlier that he feels he's at war with

00:46:13.040 Trump. I am so pleased that Trump has been able to get walls to let the police prevent rioters

00:46:19.480 from killing ICE agents. I mean, that's just like the bare minimum. Thank God that is happening.

00:46:23.540 That was big progress. That's another headline from last night. Trump and Walls spoke and Walls

00:46:28.440 has now finally agreed to let the police intervene when ICE officers are under attack or when it's

00:46:35.580 an obvious breaking of the law. And it happened last night where the once again, they surrounded

00:46:40.100 a hotel that they thought ICE officers, they thought Bovino was at and behaved lawlessly.

00:46:45.400 And the local cops finally came. You know, we went from the night before with that one

00:46:50.180 federal officer saying, where are the local cops? Bleeding out of his nose and his mouth.

00:46:54.440 They weren't there. To the next night, thanks to the Trump Walls phone call,

00:46:57.960 the local cops showed up. They said, disperse or you're going to be arrested.

00:47:01.940 The ones who dispersed weren't arrested and the ones who refused were. So that's that is progress.

00:47:06.500 Yes. Here's video of the protests outside of that hotel, which got very rowdy. And thankfully,

00:47:12.160 the cops did what they what they should have been doing. So, yes, you're right, Smug. Good.

00:47:17.180 That was a good result out of that phone call. Keep going.

00:47:19.400 Yeah, no, I made the mistake of trying to make an intellectual point here, which was that

00:47:23.420 in Minnesota, you have a relative.

00:47:27.500 Offense taken. You have a relatively small group of problems here, both from a protester side and

00:47:36.200 from an illegal immigration side. What happens when you go to California?

00:47:40.560 What happens? Do you think that a governor who's running for president against this administration

00:47:46.480 in particular is going to have any different reaction than Tim Walls does? No, of course not,

00:47:51.560 because there's all of the mayhem and all of it is political incentive on his front. And there is,

00:47:58.560 I don't know, roughly 75 X, maybe 150 X the problem on each segment of that state than there

00:48:06.660 is in Minnesota. What happens when you go to, you know, the upper northeast Boston? What happens when

00:48:13.260 you go, you know, like literally any blue state, you're going to have this problem. And the point is,

00:48:19.880 if you're interested in trying to solve it, you have to figure out how to scale it. You can't spend

00:48:24.080 six weeks in trench warfare here. And I think the administration has done everything that they

00:48:30.620 should be doing. You've encountered the lengths of which the far left is willing to go to try to

00:48:35.640 stop it. I think it's strategically important that Tom Homan and everybody else think about this in

00:48:41.300 terms of how you can actually fulfill the campaign promises of 2024 versus just making like a national

00:48:47.700 debate for six weeks over and over and over again. Or the alternative is to stop, which I think is

00:48:54.020 your problem, Duncan. Yeah. And I agree with that entirely. Like there's a mandate here. You got to

00:49:00.080 figure out how to do it. It doesn't mean that you're just going to roll tanks. Like you've got to figure

00:49:05.180 out how to do it. I will say one thing about Minnesota that hopefully is unique to Minnesota

00:49:10.280 is it feels like a lot of the elected Democrats have a vested interest in allowing the crime to

00:49:17.880 continue. We learned from the New York Times of all places that it was Biden's Department of Justice,

00:49:24.680 which opened an investigation into Ilhan Omar and how she got all this money all of a sudden.

00:49:30.400 So the kind of pushback that we're seeing from people like Keith Ellison, we've noted on the program,

00:49:35.440 why is it that both of the last two chairmen of the DNC are from Minnesota? Seems like that state's

00:49:40.780 really punching above its weight class unless they've got access to money somehow that the

00:49:45.040 Democrats love. There's a lot that makes Minnesota unique in this situation, but it feels like they're

00:49:50.480 getting so much pushback. The federal officials are at least getting so much pushback from the local

00:49:54.460 Dems because it seems like there's a lot of money there for the Democrats that they count on.

00:49:58.800 You know, the other Democrats around this country who are as unscrupulous as Tim Walls are watching

00:50:04.760 Tim Walls on the main stage acting for these foreign billionaires who fund Democrat politics,

00:50:11.760 and they want the exact same access to the exact same money so that they can be competitive

00:50:17.000 heading into 2028. Whether or not they're going to be the main candidate or whether they're going to

00:50:21.240 be some sort of cabinet official or something, these Democrats are going to compete to be the worst of

00:50:27.980 the worst in the eyes of your average normal person.

00:50:31.980 Yeah, it's to me, it's just so disheartening because these are the latest numbers.

00:50:36.980 This is from Department of Homeland Security on January 20th. They say nearly 3 million illegals are out of the

00:50:41.980 country. DHS has removed more than 675,000. And they estimate 2.2 million have self deported.

00:50:50.160 Okay, let's, they're obviously going to go with the most generous numbers. Let's assume that's true. We have

00:50:56.700 what, 17 million to go? Let's use the lowest numbers. Say it's 11. Okay, we have 8 million to go. We're just

00:51:05.620 never going to get there at this rate. Stand by on that thought. Quick break. We're right back.

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00:53:23.160 Josh Holmes, comfortably smug. Michael Duncan and John Ashbrook are with me. They are the fellas

00:53:32.400 from the Rootless Variety program. And they're back with me now. Guys, Trump just spoke to this.

00:53:37.660 Got a couple of soundbites for you. First, he speaks to the investigation he would like to see happen.

00:53:42.940 He said Alex Cuddy's death was justified.

00:53:46.280 Well, you know, we're doing a big investigation. I want to see the investigation.

00:53:49.920 I'm going to be watching over it. I want a very honorable and honest investigation. I have to see

00:53:56.120 it myself. I want an honorable and honest investigation. I have to see it myself. Then

00:54:00.940 he speaks to the status of Kristi Noem in his view. I think he's done a very good job. I think

00:54:07.760 he's done a very good job. The border is totally secure. You know, you forget we had a border that

00:54:13.920 I inherited where millions of people were coming through. Now we have a border where no one is

00:54:19.600 coming through. They come into our country only legally. And last but not least, he speaks to

00:54:25.820 the death specifically of Alex Preddy. Well, I'm looking at that whole situation. I love

00:54:31.860 everybody. I love all of our people. I love his family. And it's a very sad situation.

00:54:37.520 Okay, so he's doing what he needs to do as president, that we can be a lot more straightforward

00:54:43.560 in podcasting. He's got a different role, which it's great. He's understanding it. Sometimes Trump

00:54:49.500 gets out on a limb. Barack Obama constantly went out on that limb and offered his opinion on things

00:54:55.320 that were extremely divisive, like the race of people involved in a particular altercation.

00:55:01.060 Trump there is being more measured because Minneapolis is a powder keg right now. So that's a good

00:55:06.200 message to come from him. But we'll see. So Tom Homan is now on the ground. And you will see

00:55:12.400 whether that changes the rhetoric. We did hear Tim Walsh rein it in a little in his rhetoric,

00:55:18.000 you know, in speaking to reporters after his chat with Trump. I'm not sure whether any of these leftists

00:55:23.280 are actually going to try to rein it in. But I also don't have a lot of trust in the media.

00:55:29.360 What we saw yesterday with the media was, well, I'll just give you one example. Here's a guest

00:55:34.840 on with Jake Tapper on CNN and SOT 5. We can't do business as usual right now anyway,

00:55:41.880 because our city has been invaded by masked gunmen, kidnapping family members and friends

00:55:47.420 and neighbors of ours to send them to concentration camps. Just one note, I'm not going to, I'm not

00:55:55.920 here to defend ICE, but I'm not a big fan of people using the term concentration camp to describe

00:56:01.440 detention camps. That has a very specific meaning in terms of people. Same. I understand that,

00:56:07.380 but they take people to Fort Snelling here, which literally was built as a concentration camp and

00:56:11.960 alligator alcatraz, which I think we can all agree is a concentration camp. I'm not saying they're

00:56:17.720 Dachau. I'm not saying they're putting people in ovens yet, but these are concentration camps.

00:56:23.000 What? What was that? It's not going well on CNN. Imagine being that producer before they go live

00:56:34.140 with the shot and you look at what that cat's wearing. And I mean, you think this segment's

00:56:38.960 going to go well? Hey boss, I got a great book. I got a great book and this guy seems measured.

00:56:43.940 Not a huge fan of comparing things to the concentration camps. It's kind of a, it's like

00:56:50.320 a hard no for most of us making comparisons to Nazi Germany. And the guy's like, no, I get it. I get

00:56:56.340 it. Except, you know, well, they're not putting people in ovens yet. You're right. I'll be more

00:57:01.340 measured at the same time. I haven't actually seen ovens yet. You had the governor of that state be

00:57:04.800 like, you know, there's going to be a book like the diary of Anne Frank written about this occupation

00:57:09.240 we're under. So like, it's not like it's coming from nowhere. Part of what the left does is we

00:57:13.500 have to gin them up. Standby. Here's top 20. We have got children in Minnesota hiding in their

00:57:22.280 houses, afraid to go outside. Many of us grew up reading that story of Anne Frank.

00:57:29.520 Somebody's going to write that children's story about Minnesota. And there's one person who can end

00:57:36.020 this now. I mean, first of all, children's story is like good night moon, you know, the very hungry

00:57:43.160 caterpillar. It's not really. It's not the diary of Anne Frank. It's not the diary of Minnesota illegals

00:57:54.640 either. I mean. Secondly, he got rebuked by the Holocaust Museum. I always like the National

00:58:02.840 Holocaust Memorial. Like when they're rebuking you, it's not it's not ideal. Like when you're

00:58:07.600 just trying to make a point about your kids. By the way, that's a great place to start for ice.

00:58:11.300 Apparently, Tim Walls knows where all the illegal children are hiding. And he's got he's he's ready

00:58:16.000 for ice to deliver the epilogue to their story in Minneapolis. But it's necessary for them to

00:58:24.580 condition their supporters. If he's going to have people out in freezing conditions with their phones

00:58:29.980 out harassing ice on his behest, he has to make them think you're fighting Nazis, you're brave heroes

00:58:36.520 who are part of the underground to save us from Nazis by using that kind of language.

00:58:41.320 Yeah, I'm really glad, Megan, you played those clips back to back, because I think, you know,

00:58:45.920 what we were talking about in the first segment, right? It's the permission structure that the

00:58:50.240 governor, Tim Walls and Jacob Fry and the leadership there in Minnesota has provided for people like

00:58:55.580 that lunatic. I mean, that guy looks like, you know, a Portlandia character straight out of

00:58:59.780 central casting where with the pink knit beanie wearing it inside. These people are cartoon

00:59:06.000 characters.

00:59:08.260 You know, OK, so now there's more because we're going to get into media spin. We have got to talk

00:59:14.420 about what MSNBC did with the image of Alex Preddy. Apparently, they did not think that their

00:59:22.980 hero was hot enough. And so they or someone from whom they got the picture clearly manipulated the

00:59:32.800 photo that is out there of Alex Preddy in his nurse's scrubs to make him look better in the image

00:59:40.480 that Nicole Wallace showed on the air. Now, I just I'm showing. Yeah, let's put this up. It's the

00:59:46.280 original Tanner and then the after or now I actually looked very close. I put on my reading glasses on

00:59:51.980 and I zoomed in and you can see actually what they've done. They've darkened his hair. Again,

00:59:57.680 I don't know who did it, but MSNBC used it. They darkened his hair. They filled in his hair a little

01:00:03.460 to make him look slightly less bald. They tanned him up. They whitened his teeth and they may have

01:00:08.840 straightened one tooth over there on the top left. There was like a snaggle and it appears to have been

01:00:14.100 gone in the AI version on the right. His nose, which I'm sorry, but you take the like a man's

01:00:22.840 rather prominent nose and start manipulating it to make it look what less like long and out there.

01:00:30.880 And now you're really now you're really messing with things like that is just so beyond by a

01:00:35.820 journalist like a filter that makes the guy look tanner. All right. Maybe that could happen

01:00:40.260 accidentally. The shortening of a nose? That does not happen accidentally. And his jaw may have been

01:00:46.860 shortened in the picture. I mean, there have been multiple manipulations by on this picture.

01:00:51.940 They like juiced him. Look at his right bicep. I saw this image. Like they really went to town.

01:00:57.640 Oh my God, you're right. Isn't that insane? Think about that.

01:01:00.200 I didn't even notice that one. I mean, it's less insane than being horny for Luigi Mangione.

01:01:04.200 So this is technically an improvement. That's actually right. Yeah. Well, listen,

01:01:09.780 can you listen to the messaging that Nicole Wallace was giving her audience when she used

01:01:15.540 the manipulated image? Listen. This time it was 37 year old Alex Preddy, an ICU nurse who cared for

01:01:22.900 veterans. Donald Trump and his cabinet, his administration are demanding once again that

01:01:28.780 you not believe your eyes and ears. Um, uh, kind of, kind of thinking that would be a good instinct

01:01:39.120 in this particular instance, but like what kind of a cynical mofo is like, he's not hot enough.

01:01:45.660 Yeah. We have to make him look hotter if we really want him to be our poster boy. I mean,

01:01:49.920 like that is effed up. It just shows you how this is all acting that there's, I genuinely believe that

01:01:57.740 Natalie Portman tears are fake. The Glenn Close outrage is fake. It's performative. These people

01:02:04.720 on the streets are there. You mentioned the billionaire. There were, there have been several

01:02:09.420 reports now. The biggest and best was out of Fox news. I think it's Azra Nomani who did it,

01:02:14.240 who reported that it's this guy, an American born billionaire named Neville Roy Singham,

01:02:20.860 a self declared, declared Marxist Leninist living in Shanghai. Um, who's created one of these

01:02:29.260 communist groups, the people's forum that is out there. It's a nonprofit that supports

01:02:35.720 these entities like breakthrough news, which is a left wing propaganda outfit. That's been heavily

01:02:40.400 creating content centered on Minneapolis. They're doing things like sharing videos, publishing graphics,

01:02:45.240 demanding things like abolishing ice and on it goes. So like we are being actively manipulated from

01:02:51.820 MSNBC down to these shadowy groups that are openly communist. So some guy sitting in Shanghai,

01:02:57.460 it's like that weirdo who's all over X, Ian Miles Chong, who's attacking people like yours truly for my

01:03:05.040 commentary on politics from Malaysia. Fuck you. Get out of fucking Malaysia. Why don't you come here

01:03:12.320 if you want to criticize me, but it's like these shadowy figures who want to control the American

01:03:17.220 dialogue from like their huts. God knows where. Right. And I mean, there are 25,000 square foot

01:03:24.180 huts, Megan. These are billionaires who want to ruin our country, ruin our country. They're paying

01:03:31.460 like this guy that Azra Nomani is great reporter. She's obviously been following this left wing money

01:03:37.580 chain for a very long time. And she's written extensively about this guy that you mentioned.

01:03:43.760 And, you know, he said that the one tool he has in his tool chest where he can use to beat everybody

01:03:49.160 else is treachery. They want to ruin our country. They're the ones who are tearing us apart at the

01:03:55.440 seams. They're the ones who are like, oh, no, America, you don't have enough problems as it is.

01:04:00.100 We need to import millions of people from third world countries who grew up under different

01:04:05.760 circumstances and who want to take your peaceful neighborhood away from you. Military age men from

01:04:12.040 the other hemisphere who want to cause violence in your streets. And if you try to say anything

01:04:17.700 about it, you're the bad guy. This is an actual operation against us. It's a left wing funded

01:04:23.760 insurgency from foreign governments. And I mean, I'll let Smug speak to the guys on X who are doing this

01:04:29.920 for money, too, because he knows who they are and where they come from. But the reality is we have

01:04:36.160 to open Malaysia. Well, the thing is that it's all over. One of the things that Elon did that was

01:04:41.380 incredible is now you can click on a person's profile and see where they register, what country

01:04:46.340 they register their encounter in and which country that they're accessing the app from. It's incredible

01:04:51.020 because very quickly you saw a lot of people who are trying to tell Americans how America should be

01:04:55.580 run aren't in America. It's incredible. But like to Ashbrook's point, the amount of money coming from

01:05:00.820 overseas billionaires who recognize that the left is a useful tool of useful idiots. We saw in New York

01:05:08.060 City protests pop up where the signs were already printed. The hats are already made and ready to go

01:05:14.140 is because this is not an organic grassroots thing that you're seeing across the country.

01:05:19.420 The Democrats have realized if they want to be funded, Kamala Harris took a ton of money. Her

01:05:24.380 campaign, her super PACs took a ton of money from these people. Hans-Jörg Wies, a Swiss national.

01:05:29.800 George Soros, billionaires are essentially funding the left to try and destroy this country and we're

01:05:36.980 seeing the effects of it in Minnesota and across the country.

01:05:39.040 If your goal is to ruin America, you really only have one plot of people to deal with,

01:05:45.400 right? They don't particularly like America to begin with.

01:05:47.920 Exactly.

01:05:48.520 And it's a lot easier. That was the great irony of the whole Russiagate investigation,

01:05:54.340 by the way, is that somehow the conservative right was going to be the angle to have

01:05:59.740 other countries pull one over on us. Like what we've seen over the last 10 years is basically

01:06:05.320 a whole bunch of foreign influence going in on the left to try to do relatively little

01:06:11.560 manipulation in order for them to just get on board for the big win. And if you take a

01:06:15.240 step back, I think you look at your average Republican or average conservative voter, a vast

01:06:21.020 majority of people, they want to take their kids to soccer practice and softball. They want

01:06:25.520 to make sure that they've got, you know, streets that are navigable, that they don't have crime

01:06:31.000 in their neighborhood. They want to take care of their neighbor. They want to go to church.

01:06:34.240 You want to just like basic American things. And then you look at the left and it's much

01:06:38.380 more instant and it's much more absurd. And there is no 50,000 foot look. It's much right

01:06:45.640 now. We hate Trump right now and whatever you can do. And so you get like images, which you

01:06:50.740 started this conversation about, where you just manipulate it just a little bit to get somebody

01:06:55.480 just a little bit more right now angry about a whole bunch of different things. And you can send

01:07:00.920 them off in a million different directions. And I think that that is happening in real time in the

01:07:06.360 far left in a way that is so corrosive to our democracy, our republic. I mean, they are becoming,

01:07:14.860 to your point earlier, you got to start asking questions about whether a national divorce is for

01:07:21.320 real, because they don't seem like they're capable of actually getting to the point where we all want

01:07:27.580 the same things. They're inflaming the national divorce. They're actually inflaming it. They want

01:07:33.520 it to happen. If there was genuine desire for Americans to come together, they would operate very

01:07:39.960 differently. They would reduce the outside inputs and complications, the cultural problems that they're

01:07:45.080 just importing year after year after year until Trump comes into office. They would want us to

01:07:50.880 reconcile the problems that existed before they brought that stuff in here. They don't want

01:07:56.260 reconciliation among Americans who are living in this country today. They want the country to fall.

01:08:01.820 I think there's no other way to look at it. The left, the global left wants our country to fall apart.

01:08:07.220 Remember, they were so upset, supposedly, about Russian interference back in 2016. And they made

01:08:13.860 up all these lies, of course, about Trump and Alpha Bank and the server and the basement of the Trump

01:08:18.280 organization. I mean, Don Jr. always makes me laugh when he was like, we couldn't figure out how to

01:08:24.300 order a hamburger, never mind how to communicate secretly with Russia. Like, in our dreams, we would

01:08:30.840 have figured that one out. But in any event, one thing that Russia did do to some extent back in 2016

01:08:36.200 was what they always do, which is try to sow some chaos in between Americans, like put up incendiary

01:08:41.980 articles that may or may not be true about something terrible that Hillary did or whatever.

01:08:45.440 Like, they love to see us fight with each other. That's been a long time Russian thing.

01:08:49.800 We were supposed to be outraged about that. I thought we hated that. I thought the left really

01:08:53.220 hated that Russian interference or outside interference from another country making Americans fight.

01:08:57.580 What the hell is this? What's happening here? Why are we allowing this?

01:09:01.140 I guess it's different when it's on the left, you see, when it's pushing us to become a communist

01:09:06.040 nation. I guess we're all in favor. And that picture of the guy of Alex Preddy, like the hot,

01:09:11.060 the hotter Alex Preddy went everywhere. We found it, among other places, at a hockey game.

01:09:19.980 This isn't the NHL. It's like the league just below with the New York Sirens versus Minnesota Frost.

01:09:26.020 Watch this on the Jumbotron.

01:09:35.060 Okay. And then here's the really outrageous one. We checked back in with Nicole Wallace. Deb, you made

01:09:48.360 this picture for me earlier. And just to see if she had learned her lesson. And would you take a look

01:09:52.740 at what she showed for Alex Preddy the day after the one I just showed you? Look at this. Standby.

01:09:58.400 Debbie Murphy, where's that picture I sent you?

01:10:03.220 It's coming.

01:10:04.600 It's being procured.

01:10:05.760 It's not loading.

01:10:06.120 Well, there's something we said about technical stuff, right?

01:10:08.440 Come on, guys.

01:10:09.820 Okay. You know, Debbie's up into Canada, so things go slower sometimes. They're busy waiting in line for

01:10:15.800 health care. They can't do all these things at once. I guess we don't have it. Do we not have it?

01:10:19.400 We'll come back to it. Okay. In any event, it's egregious. They've gone too far. They've really

01:10:25.120 lost themselves. They're really getting egregious with their manipulations. And I'll come back to

01:10:29.060 that. Put a pin in that for right now. Just for a moment, I want to go back to the late night hosts

01:10:33.560 because there's a lot. I showed you Jimmy Kimmel, but it's not just him. Here's Stephen Colbert in

01:10:37.440 today. More than half of Americans are digging out from massive winter storm, freezing temperatures

01:10:46.380 from Texas all the way up to Maine. It's frigid here in New York City. I want to thank everyone

01:10:50.940 here who stood outside in the cold today before you came in.

01:10:55.500 I, um, I think we can all agree, f**k guys. Now, so brave. So courageous guys. A real inspiration,

01:11:13.660 don't you think? It is. It's amazing how they've just perverted late night comedy to be just a left

01:11:19.660 wing, whatever. I mean, that, that kind of joke, if it wasn't Stephen Colbert, you would look at,

01:11:25.000 you'd kind of laugh just because it would be an inverted sort of irony and, and making fun of the

01:11:30.780 left at some ways, but with coming from him, it's genuine. Like he, he really believes that kind of

01:11:36.120 thing. I also saw over the weekend, the FCC chairman sort of begin to reinstitute rules that we've long

01:11:43.540 had in this country about what, if you have candidates on for political office that you're going to have

01:11:49.500 to even out the score. It's long known as like a fairness doctrine type thing, which we operated

01:11:54.780 underneath, um, for, for decades. And there was some late night, uh, carve outs essentially for

01:12:03.520 newsmaking or, or public figures or whatever. Jay Leno had this in the early 2000s, but he

01:12:09.080 reinstituted it. And I think this is actually more significant than the Jimmy Kimmel thing that we saw

01:12:15.780 or, you know, anything that they've had to do with, with late night television up to this point,

01:12:20.340 because they have no way of doing it. They, if you have to adhere to that kind of rule, you basically

01:12:26.060 need to abandon politics at some way. No, you know what you get, you get, you get a show full of Adam

01:12:32.240 Kinzinger, Nicole Wallace. That's their idea of, of a Republican. Oh, by the way, we have, we have it now.

01:12:39.240 Look what she did. The next time she came back to Alex pretty, she went too far. I'm sorry, but this

01:12:47.360 is, it's on the nose. We showed a picture of Patrick Dempsey. McDreamy. McDreamy from Grey's Anatomy.

01:12:56.400 Okay. She, she didn't really, but I saw it online. It made me laugh. We need a laugh or we can get it.

01:13:01.640 So good. Um, yeah, wait, I want to give you one more Colbert. I mean, this is just like,

01:13:06.280 this is so crazy. You guys, I like it. Remember when we used to have Johnny Carson

01:13:11.160 who would make fun of both sides and make us laugh in the, in our worst moments among each other.

01:13:16.940 We've gone a tie an entirely different way here in sod 11.

01:13:20.360 Got to point out your anti-immigrant thugs are the one killing taxpaying law abiding citizens

01:13:26.700 and Americans won't stand for it because we have read our country's usual.

01:13:36.280 We have read our country's user agreement, the declaration of independence, governments derive

01:13:45.560 their just powers from the consent of the governed. Whenever any form of government becomes destructive

01:13:50.820 of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it.

01:13:54.740 Cool. Go. Do it. Go. Secede.

01:14:00.760 Those right there. Those might be the most important words of our founding documents.

01:14:09.020 All right. Here's my question. How are we going to do it? Because, you know, you look at the map,

01:14:12.900 if it were just clear, like all the blue was up in the Northeast and all the red was down in the South

01:14:17.720 and maybe the Midwest, you know, maybe we could work something out, but it's very interspersed.

01:14:22.160 Like, I don't know how we could actually make a realistic go of it if we actually wanted to let

01:14:27.680 him go. Stephen Colbert. Like, I don't know. Maybe we give up, like, I think we might have to give

01:14:34.940 up California. Why don't they all go there? There's a lot of land. Like, it's pretty. They

01:14:39.400 should like it. They can have Hollywood. I'm not sure. What do we give them?

01:14:43.220 Maybe they need to learn their lesson again. I think these are a bunch of chicken hawks who have

01:14:47.180 no idea what they're talking about. First off, the user agreement for the United States is the

01:14:50.900 Constitution. It's not the Declaration of Independence, but he doesn't know that. He's

01:14:53.600 just an idiot who reads jokes that are written for him, and they're poor jokes. Like, I remember,

01:14:57.500 like you said earlier, Jay Leno used to, I had no, I have no clue what his political affiliation is.

01:15:02.300 No clue. You tune into his show, you get some funny times, and that's what you signed up for. He might

01:15:06.100 have a star who's got a movie coming out, and that's what you get. But this, this is pathetic.

01:15:10.420 There's a reason that, like, the big discussion around late night is, is there a place for it

01:15:14.520 anymore? Are Americans just going to watch Netflix instead? No, Americans still like having a good time and

01:15:20.080 having some laughs, but they don't like getting lectured. You cut your ratings in half when you

01:15:24.860 attack half the audience about politics. No one wants to deal with politics. They got home from

01:15:29.200 work. They had dinner with their family. Now they're trying to have a couple of laughs before

01:15:32.400 they start it again the next day. For him to try to be like, you're a comedian, dude. Why are you

01:15:36.700 out here preaching about, well, Americans didn't sign up? It says this in the declaration. Dude,

01:15:41.560 if I wanted to listen to Ken Burns, I'd do it on Ken Burns' documentary. I'm not going to listen to

01:15:46.480 some idiot attempted comedian lecture me when I'm trying to go to sleep. It's pathetic. Yeah.

01:15:51.060 Yes. I think it's something. I mean, is he even an attempted comedian anymore? I don't like,

01:15:55.560 he's not. He's headed to retirement because he couldn't get any ratings. How long did you think

01:15:59.740 it took the writer's room to come up with fuck ice? Oh, man. Really? Whoa. Yeah. High five.

01:16:06.500 Brilliant. Good work, Shane Gillis. Yeah, put it right here. Okay, wait, I want to go,

01:16:10.880 I want to go to the politics of it because, of course, that is why Trump and Walz spoke yesterday.

01:16:16.560 It's why Trump just didn't declare the Insurrection Act and send in the military and

01:16:20.940 take Minnesota in hand. It's not going well. I read the audience, the poll numbers yesterday from a

01:16:26.400 couple of different outlets, and the independents have completely abandoned Trump on the issue of

01:16:30.980 ice. Of course, the Democrats are not there at all. He's got Republican support, but not entirely.

01:16:36.520 It's about 80% support him. And here is Harry Enten talking a little bit more about the polling

01:16:42.200 on ICE operations on CNN Monday, SOT 17. Yeah, I'm not really surprised that President Trump is

01:16:48.620 sending Tom Homan in because ICE, DHS, Kristi Noem have been a political disaster because just take

01:16:55.720 a look here. I mean, ICE is not approval rating during Trump's terms. You go back to term number one,

01:17:00.100 look, it was pretty even at zero points. You go to June 2025, right? That was when all that

01:17:05.240 stuff was going on in Los Angeles. They dropped down, look at this, minus 17 points, way in the

01:17:10.980 basement. But then after Minneapolis, it's even lower, minus 27 points on the net approval rating

01:17:18.280 of ICE. Of course, this all being done under Kristi Noem. So no, what's going on in Minneapolis

01:17:24.400 is not popular at all.

01:17:26.020 One more. Here he is talking about Kristi Noem, SOT 18.

01:17:31.120 I mean, just look at her net approval rating. In July of 2025, it was minus 11 points. It's

01:17:37.600 actually gotten more unpopular now at minus 16 points. I looked at every single poll that

01:17:45.180 has been conducted on Kristi Noem's popularity. Every single one, the net approval rating has

01:17:50.280 been negative. ICE is negative. DHS is negative. As I said at the top, Kate, this has been an

01:17:55.040 absolute political disaster for the president of the United States. It's not much of a surprise

01:17:59.180 to me if he wants to push Noem to the side.

01:18:05.220 So what does that mean? Because everyone's thinking about the midterms. I mean, this is

01:18:11.640 just depressing because what they're doing is working, that those loons are driving down

01:18:16.820 the numbers with their media enablers. All Kristi Noem's trying to do is enforce the law. Yes,

01:18:22.460 she got over her skis on the messaging after Alex Preddy and she went too far. I mean, honestly,

01:18:27.100 she did it, I'm sure, out of an effort to help the Border Patrol agents. She was almost

01:18:32.360 certainly told by one or more of them that something like that happened. I doubt she just

01:18:37.460 made it up out of thin air. I don't know. But OK, she's going to be the sacrificial lamb

01:18:41.720 in some way. She got pulled. Bovino, he got pulled. Pulled but not fired, which is good.

01:18:47.420 In any event. OK, great. So where does this take us politically? Because I just don't know.

01:18:52.880 I don't think Trump, I don't think those people, those independents are like, OK, I will vote for

01:18:57.300 Trump now or I will vote Republican in the midterms. I mean, this is what we talked about,

01:19:02.500 right? I mean, the easiest thing you can do as a president of the United States is nothing.

01:19:06.840 Absolutely nothing. If you feel like there is a necessity for profound change, don't do it at all

01:19:13.560 because the uncomfortability caucus doesn't appreciate that. But it turns out when you want to deport 15

01:19:20.920 million people who got here illegally under Joe Biden, it's tough. It's difficult. And the left

01:19:26.740 puts up a resistance that makes things incredibly uncomfortable. And you just need to be prepared

01:19:31.380 for it. And like, I don't give a shit what the cabinet secretary's approval rating is. Like nobody

01:19:36.020 really, that is what it is. It does have downstream effects on Republican candidates,

01:19:41.300 undoubtedly. And you're seeing some of that play out with people asking questions and wanting some

01:19:45.920 oversight and all of that being said. But the Republican Party needs to just wrap its mind

01:19:51.000 around. If you say you're going to do something, it's not going to be easy. And on the back end of

01:19:57.620 it, everybody's not going to be like, Oh, congratulations, you did it. There's a cottage

01:20:01.820 industry that is entirely built foreign funding, everything else to try to destroy any progress that

01:20:09.060 you make. And that's just what you know, when you get into politics, like that is just the reality

01:20:14.120 that we've dealt with. Because, you know, for those moderate or independent voters in the mushy

01:20:18.420 middle of our electorate, they're generally conservative, but they're specifically liberal.

01:20:23.880 And what I mean by that is like, they all agree with Donald Trump's policy and that and they voted

01:20:28.180 for him in 2024, that we need a secure border reading to deport criminal illegal aliens. But

01:20:34.220 specifically liberal is like, Oh, well, I saw this poor this picture on Instagram of this girl by this

01:20:40.620 car and ice, you know, store stole her away to a concentration camp. I read that. And that's the

01:20:45.280 only thing I know about ice. Yeah, right. Like, that's the issue. And we're always going to have

01:20:49.040 that issue. But to Holmes's point, like, you can't give up, you got to push through that and do your

01:20:52.940 best. I mean, like, here, here's a good hypothetical. You know, what's the name of this illegal immigrant

01:20:59.820 that they were trying to arrest that this guy came in with the gun and started assaulting? Do we know?

01:21:05.220 Because that's where I would start if I was the Trump administration, I'd be like, All right, well, let's

01:21:09.080 reframe this narrative instead of, you know, discussing this video of this guy who had the gun and the

01:21:13.460 gun goes off and the guy tragically loses his life. What was he stopping? What were they doing? What were

01:21:18.700 they doing? Yeah. And, you know, we need to reframe a lot of these arguments. So we put the onus on the

01:21:25.060 left to justify why they're out there in the streets stopping law enforcement. You're so like, look at the

01:21:30.540 number of things they've done this on. They're hysterical freakouts that then drive the news

01:21:35.580 that's too, you know, quick to go along with them and drive the poll numbers down. Elon and Doge just

01:21:41.980 trying to find government waste, fraud and abuse. That's it. Just trying to find organizations that

01:21:46.180 are a grift. And how many months did we spend on the Democrat freakouts over USAID shutting down and

01:21:54.120 the cuts at the Department of Education, these government bureaucrats who were no longer to be able to

01:21:58.680 cash their checks. And then the debate over the Obamacare subsidies that were necessary in order

01:22:06.840 to fool people into believing that Obamacare was affordable, wasn't as expensive as it was always

01:22:13.860 intended to be. And whether Republicans had an obligation to keep those going, you know, as opposed

01:22:19.260 to letting people feel the pain that Obama inflicted on them, dominated the news for weeks. Now we're

01:22:25.260 actually enforcing the law when it comes to immigration and we've had meltdowns in LA over

01:22:30.900 trying to do it, in Chicago over trying to do it, and now the ultimate meltdown in Minneapolis where

01:22:35.900 it had to be the biggest freakout at all because they're trying to distract from a fraud scandal

01:22:40.100 perpetrated by the Somali community there. Ilhan Omar, unbeknownst to us, already under investigation

01:22:47.200 thanks to the Biden DOJ, because if you would marry your brother to get him into the United States,

01:22:53.040 you would do anything, including possibly illegally line your own pockets. It's just, I'm sick of it.

01:22:59.920 You know, it's like, I feel like the independent lane helped get Trump elected because we were the

01:23:04.680 antidote to the lies the mainstream media was telling. But now that he's actually governing,

01:23:09.960 we don't actually serve as the antidote. People are too primed to listen to all the terrible things

01:23:20.900 about Trump. I don't know if they like buyer's remorse, if like they just want to go back on

01:23:25.880 their original instincts about Trump. It feels good to be like, no, no, I hated Kamala, but this

01:23:30.420 guy's a douche. You know, what is it? Why are all these people who actually did vote for Trump now

01:23:35.220 suddenly believing the CNNs and the Nicole Wallases with their fucking lies about ICE?

01:23:41.420 I think that's part of the thing is that hit dogs holler. So anytime you've seen Trump go after,

01:23:48.420 whether it was with Doge or whether it's here in Minnesota, when he's going after the grift,

01:23:52.060 which so clearly is funding the Democrats, they flip out. Why would someone freak out about Elon

01:23:57.980 hunting down waste, fraud and abuse in the government because you're funded by the waste, fraud and abuse?

01:24:02.180 Why would someone freak out about these clear cut cases of fraud in Minnesota? For God's sake,

01:24:07.560 it was called the Leering Center. The Leering Center. Of course, that's a fraud that's happening.

01:24:13.640 So they freak out because they get their money from that. In LA, they activated the same troops

01:24:19.340 that they have that get foreign funding. If they scream and make enough of a mess and throw enough

01:24:24.020 of a tenter tantrum, parents know if you give in to a toddler freaking out, it's going to do it again

01:24:28.780 and again and again. And that's now the playbook of the left. The thing is that voters knew what

01:24:33.040 they were doing in 2024. They were fed up with an open border. They were fed up with criminals

01:24:37.720 walking the streets of America, killing Americans, robbing from Americans, committing fraud.

01:24:41.960 And you have to see the work through. Republicans cannot step back and let any state,

01:24:46.900 Minnesota, California, anyone know that if you make enough of a scene, you know what? We're just

01:24:52.040 going to stop because they've gotten away with that. We saw the summer of 2020.

01:24:56.300 What should Holman do? What should Holman do in Minnesota?

01:24:59.660 While the police are cooperating and providing protection to ICE, he should double down,

01:25:04.260 triple down as fast as possible. Flood the zone with as many federal agents as possible.

01:25:10.000 Catch these criminals and get to the bottom of it.

01:25:12.300 Yeah, accomplish the mandate.

01:25:13.340 When you've got cover, get the job done as quickly as possible. As many boots on the ground

01:25:18.060 as possible. Yeah. Accomplish the mandate. I mean, I think it's pretty clear what everybody

01:25:23.400 wants to have happen, get criminal illegals out of your communities. And you can do that. You can

01:25:28.120 also do that without doing a ticker tape parade down Nicollet Avenue. You know what I mean? Like,

01:25:32.620 I think that's the beauty of what it is that Tom Holman brings here is he's been doing it for 25 years.

01:25:38.620 He's got medals ringed around his neck from the guy, ironically, who did the best Barack Obama in

01:25:44.760 terms of deportation. But it's somebody who's just law and order. And I think they...

01:25:50.100 But can we talk about that, Holmes? Can we talk about that? What exactly you're saying? Because

01:25:54.020 there have been many reports in right-wing media that there is a division between Kristi Noem and

01:25:58.980 Bovino on the one side and Tom Holman on the other about how these operations ought to be done.

01:26:04.660 It's really Kristi Noem and Corey Lewandowski. That's what the right-wing media is saying.

01:26:07.740 Those two are tight, shall we say. And that they have a disagreement with the Tom Holmans of the

01:26:14.900 world about how these operations ought to be conducted. And reportedly, the Noem Lewandowski

01:26:18.880 section doesn't mind the parade down Main Street and also wants to focus on all the illegals. And

01:26:28.500 Holman is more focused on pinpoint strikes, getting rid of just the criminal illegals. But I don't know.

01:26:36.000 I haven't seen the ticker tape parade by Noem and Lewandowski. I've seen them kind of going about

01:26:42.060 trying to arrest as many as they can. They say it's over 70% criminal illegals. And it's the left

01:26:48.160 doing a ticker tape. Like the left is creating this chaos around wherever they go. So you think

01:26:53.300 they're going to be any different when Tom Holman's people show up there to make their arrests?

01:26:57.560 Well, you already have to assume that the left is going to do what it is. I mean, part of politics is

01:27:01.540 already understanding what it is that the opposite side is going to do before you get engaged in the

01:27:05.640 first place. I mean, so I'm not I'm not faulting Kristi Noem or the DHS at all. Hell, they secured

01:27:13.080 our border. And we were all told that that couldn't happen without federal legislation. And they got it

01:27:18.100 done really, really quickly. I think the whole point of what Tom Holman is trying to accomplish

01:27:22.940 here and what he has accomplished throughout the course of his career is it's just law and order.

01:27:27.920 When you have cabinet secretaries involved at a very high level or even just below that,

01:27:32.440 you're dealing with it ultimately a political incentive as well. They not only want to get

01:27:36.900 the job done, but they want to take credit for a job being well done. And that introduces an element

01:27:42.420 They may want to run for president. It introduces an element of public opinion into the discussion.

01:27:46.920 Tom Holman does not have that. He doesn't give a shit what you think about him. He's done that his

01:27:52.000 entire career. And that he doesn't even care, doesn't listen to it. Like if you told me that Tom Holman

01:27:57.940 consumed a single sentence of critique about what it is that he's did, I would be shocked

01:28:02.840 by that. The man has never Googled him. Right. Ever. Right. Exactly. And that's my point.

01:28:09.700 Okay. Well, I hope you're right. I do feel like someone who knows what he's doing is 100% now in

01:28:15.520 charge there. And that's a good thing for the United States on all of us. All right. Stand by when we come

01:28:20.080 back. I've got some questions for the guys about Michelle Obama and what the hell she's doing. Stand by.

01:28:26.120 We'll be right back.

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01:35:25.720 clearly right and wrong. It is should be a model. And honestly, if you were left of center, you should

01:35:31.060 believe it's a model to the idea that you can just storm into a church during a Sunday service and

01:35:37.700 disrupt and try to antagonize people. It's like, look, it's really kind of in the basic founding

01:35:43.760 documents of this country. And if you have any serious consideration for the future of the United

01:35:49.700 States of America, it's one of the things you should keep a close eye on.

01:35:54.440 Think about it this way. If you four and I stormed an abortion clinic with our mics and a bunch of

01:36:03.520 pro-life protesters who were getting in the face of women seeking abortions, and we were just there

01:36:08.880 with our microphones and we were making arguments like trauma is part of it. Trauma is part of this

01:36:13.480 process that you have to go through it. That's that's the way it is under our first amendment.

01:36:17.620 And the head of the abortion clinic and a woman next to her said, we want you out.

01:36:22.380 We don't want to talk to you. And we stood there with our mics trying to interview the abortion

01:36:26.900 seeking women on their on their, you know, route into the OR as they were in tears. Do you think

01:36:34.560 these same leftists and these judges would be saying you can't charge those five because they

01:36:39.920 were just doing journalism? No, we know they wouldn't, Megan, because there were old women in this

01:36:43.920 country who were jailed under the Biden administration literally for praying a rosary on

01:36:49.460 a sidewalk somewhere near an abortion clinic. The left will stop at nothing to remove people

01:36:55.560 who they consider inconvenient with their stupid ideas. They will jail every single conservative

01:37:01.880 that they can. And we know it because we've seen it with our own eyes. Plus, they can probably

01:37:05.900 get a Netflix special out of that whole deal about the courage and truth that they all experienced.

01:37:10.480 South, it's insane. I mean, hypocrisy is a feature of the left. You're not allowed to

01:37:14.000 do this. Like, you cannot, that's the, I mean, part of why we do this show is because it's,

01:37:18.380 there's no point trying to debate the lunacy of the left. You have to make fun of them because

01:37:22.880 they are, they don't care about hypocrisy in the least. And I think what you did was make a great

01:37:28.360 comparison. A sacred place for a conservative is a place of worship. A sacred place for the left

01:37:34.020 is an abortion clinic. And I think it's important, especially for elected Republican officials,

01:37:40.360 recognize the fact that you can't make any decision on, oh, if we do this, boy, the left is going to

01:37:46.400 use it against us. The left wants us dead. They killed Charlie Kirk. They tried to throw President

01:37:50.720 Trump in jail while he was running for president. There is no step that the left will not take to have

01:37:56.020 total control of power. So when you are in control, you should use whatever means you have

01:38:01.860 to stop the left, to arrest these criminals and to make an example out of them. What I am really

01:38:06.900 scared of is we've seen from these signal groups in Minneapolis, documents have already been given

01:38:11.600 out of here's how, if you're summoned to a jury, to make sure that you can not only yourself, but

01:38:17.580 convince others to let criminals out. They already have their game plan in place.

01:38:24.320 That's, I believe every word of that. On the subject of making fun of the other side,

01:38:30.080 though, that brings me to Michelle Obama. This is a fun one. Save this for the fellas,

01:38:35.060 because she went on the Call Her Daddy sex podcast. Oh, that's good. And yeah, she had some thoughts

01:38:41.720 on why she will not, will not, I'm sorry, Ashbrook, be running for president. Here she is in SOT 22.

01:38:49.840 Whether people really feel yet that they can follow a woman as president. Like, we would just be silly

01:38:58.400 to think that there aren't just some gut kind of, I don't know. Like, we're not even analyzing what

01:39:05.100 those feelings are about, because we're trying to pretend like it's all better. And I just think,

01:39:11.080 well, how could it be all better? You know, there are men out there that were not going to vote for a

01:39:17.200 woman. So look at the fact that we've had two really qualified female candidates. One who was

01:39:24.060 first lady, secretary of state, well-educated. What happened with her again?

01:39:30.420 My husband beat her, right? People were more comfortable with him as a newcomer, right?

01:39:38.160 And now we just had the former vice president. You know, we've had, we've had qualified women,

01:39:44.740 and they just, you know, again, they're not perfect, and they don't cross every T and dot every I.

01:39:53.560 There's a falling shortness that is happening that I, you know, I'd say, look, well, why can't

01:39:59.280 we talk about that? Why are we pretending that that didn't just happen?

01:40:05.560 OMG! You guys!

01:40:08.720 It's amazing. Misogyny got my husband elected president. It's a wild take.

01:40:13.900 I didn't see that coming. That's fantastic.

01:40:18.140 What a lunatic.

01:40:18.860 Can you believe she raised Hillary?

01:40:20.780 Oh.

01:40:21.280 Over her husband, I do. Remember, she had an episode of her podcast where she was like,

01:40:24.660 here's why I'm happy I never had a son. I would never want a Barack Obama Jr. in this world.

01:40:29.260 Like, I can't believe these lunatics elected him.

01:40:32.320 She did, of course, because this is a Michelle Obama interview, of course she had yet another

01:40:38.840 negative comment about her marriage, SOT25. Here it is.

01:40:43.560 And even in my marriage now, you know, you go through the period of, I want him to be different.

01:40:48.520 I want him to do this differently. I've grown to know I don't have control over him, just like he

01:40:53.640 doesn't have control over me. So let me do my work and let him do our work. And together,

01:41:01.000 we come together as whole people. I go to therapy. We've been in couples therapy. I believe

01:41:07.580 in the practice of having those conversations with objective people who help you piece through

01:41:13.240 that stuff. And it's a constant, it's, it's constant work.

01:41:21.580 I've got so many things that are going to get me in trouble.

01:41:24.480 I feel like, do you guys have anything here?

01:41:26.940 Let me, I'll get, I'll get us all in trouble. I'm going to get us all in trouble.

01:41:30.180 Go for it. You will see, you will see the feminism leave a woman's body when you get

01:41:36.000 eight inches of ice outside of your home over the course of 48 hours talking about my work

01:41:43.760 and our work. You know what my work was? Shoveling our asses out of this hell hole over the last

01:41:49.100 72 hours. My work, our work.

01:41:52.760 Yeah.

01:41:55.560 It's 100% true. Here we've got in that answer, everyone goes through the period of like, I want

01:42:02.240 to change my spouse. No, they don't. Actually, they don't all go through that. And then I'm in

01:42:08.960 therapy and we've also done couples therapy and marriage is constant work. Okay. I can't relate

01:42:15.220 to one word of that. I have to be honest. Marriage, if you marry the right person is not

01:42:19.080 constant work. It's actually fun and supportive and enriches your life. And we don't need couples

01:42:24.580 therapy as a matter of course. And you're not sitting around thinking, how can I change him?

01:42:28.160 How can I change him? That's a you thing, Michelle.

01:42:31.960 You know, what's so sad is that, you know, former presence in their families used to have

01:42:36.500 dignity in this country. And like, look, I think we're all well aware. There are a lot of people

01:42:42.260 that have a lot of trouble with marriages and families. And it is a constant struggle

01:42:46.160 for a whole bunch of different people. But it's never a topic of conversation publicly

01:42:51.700 until you become the former kind of president who understands that your opinion, your injection

01:42:57.920 of opinion, you're trying to take down anything that ideologically you don't agree with is

01:43:03.400 a place for you to weigh in and try to screw everything up for everybody else.

01:43:06.800 It's constant. I mean, all she ever does is talk about how unhappy she is.

01:43:11.020 So it's fair game, right? I mean, ordinarily I'd look at that and be like, I don't know,

01:43:15.300 it seems like it's a couple that's struggling with some things and that's fine. But

01:43:18.760 you can't look at it like that when they show up on a Sunday and they're like,

01:43:24.280 all good people, the attack of democracy is happening in Minnesota and you need to like rebel

01:43:30.560 against it. And they're creating this entire problem for the rest of the country.

01:43:34.680 Well, what does your therapist say? Walk us through it, Barack. Maybe it's just a question

01:43:40.160 of being more open and honest. I want to give you one more if I can squeeze it in. Here

01:43:43.380 she is. She's upset about, well, you'll hear it. It's not 23.

01:43:47.520 But as my popularity rose, I was being covered more.

01:43:52.320 That's an incredible way to start.

01:43:53.740 And so the press enters the scene and there are now reports, right? And the first thing,

01:43:59.780 after all this great conversation and connection, the top of the article would be, she was wearing,

01:44:07.980 you know, not my education, not my, you know, not, not my professional career, but it started

01:44:15.720 with appearance.

01:44:16.780 It wasn't actually that.

01:44:17.520 And it got worse as we got better, but it was always interesting. People would be like, well,

01:44:25.460 how do you know what to do in this role? And to me, it was clear that, oh my God, you,

01:44:31.540 you don't, you don't know anything about what I did before I came here. Oh, you guys, I,

01:44:37.300 all of that just disappeared in the course of this whole election. And you now see me as

01:44:43.020 just Barack Obama's wife. So that made me say, well, we don't give a shit.

01:44:50.380 My shoes become the most important thing about me, right?

01:44:55.400 You're not the president. No one cares. She's never been elected.

01:44:59.400 She kept going and posing on the cover of Vogue. And then she's upset. People talk about her

01:45:03.880 outfits. This woman, she'll complain about anything, anything, you guys.

01:45:09.060 She can get a house in Nantucket and a Netflix deal. And she still says, I'm the victim here

01:45:14.480 is incredible. Does Barack Obama not have any guy friends? Like, you know, your wife was on call

01:45:19.660 her daddy saying you go to couples therapy and you suck. Any thoughts on this, bro?

01:45:23.980 I can't with this woman. She's mad that they asked about her fashion. She's out there promoting

01:45:31.000 a fashion book. Now, if you're so upset about that, where's your book about your time as a lawyer?

01:45:34.640 Why don't you tell us more about all the cases you litigated? Oh, wait, you didn't accomplish shit.

01:45:38.700 Which is why nobody's talking about it. Okay. I got to leave it at that. I love you guys.

01:45:43.180 It's great to see you.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - January 27, 2026

New Details About PAST Pretti Encounter with ICE, and Michelle Obama's New Barack Complaints, with Ruthless ｜ Ep. 1239

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