The Megyn Kelly Show - August 20, 2025


New Details on Illegal Migrant Who Caused Fatal Crash, Barr Testifies on Epstein: AM Update 8⧸20


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20 minutes

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157.02005

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3,288

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211

Misogynist Sentences

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Summary

A fatal traffic accident allegedly caused by an illegal immigrant with a license taking center stage in the immigration debate. What Attorney General Barr testified in there was that he didn t know anything about a client list. Former Attorney General Bill Barr deposed by the House Oversight Committee, the first interview in its investigation into the handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case, and troubling new details about the father of missing baby Emanuel Harrow.


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00:00:39.660 A driver who can't understand English will not drive a commercial vehicle in this country.
00:00:46.620 Period. Full stop.
00:00:48.200 A fatal traffic accident allegedly caused by an illegal immigrant with a license
00:00:53.180 driving a commercial semi-truck taking center stage in the immigration debate.
00:00:58.340 What Attorney General Barr testified in there was that he didn't know anything about a client list.
00:01:04.160 Former Attorney General Bill Barr deposed by the House Oversight Committee,
00:01:07.940 the first interview in its investigation into the handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case,
00:01:12.420 and troubling new details about the father of missing baby Emanuel Harrow.
00:01:17.080 So, Mr. Harrow's attorney speaks out for the first time.
00:01:20.760 All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
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00:02:43.560 The Department of Transportation announcing yesterday an investigation into a deadly crash in Florida.
00:02:50.140 Three people killed by an alleged illegal immigrant truck driver making an illegal U-turn in an 80,000-pound semi-truck,
00:02:58.600 putting a spotlight on the Trump administration's crackdown on English-language proficiency in the trucking industry.
00:03:04.480 Preliminary investigation results finding the driver did not speak English.
00:03:09.480 The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration administering an English-language proficiency assessment,
00:03:14.840 which the alleged driver, 28-year-old Harjeinder Singh, failed,
00:03:19.820 correctly answering just two of 12 verbal questions and only accurately identifying one of four highway traffic signs.
00:03:27.700 On August 12th, Florida State Highway Patrol responding to an accident just north of West Palm Beach.
00:03:34.040 Investigators finding Singh, quote,
00:03:36.100 recklessly and without regard for the safety of others,
00:03:39.000 attempted to execute a U-turn utilizing an unauthorized location.
00:03:44.000 Video from inside Singh's truck showing a minivan T-boning the trailer of his truck,
00:03:50.020 becoming wedged underneath.
00:03:51.980 Singh and his passenger, who were uninjured, appear utterly unfazed.
00:03:55.700 Photos from the scene clearly show a no U-turn, official use only sign on the short connection pass
00:04:04.020 between the two lanes of the highway, the dangers of which should be obvious to any semi-driver.
00:04:10.860 Authorities say the man was blocking all lanes of traffic.
00:04:14.440 The two passengers in the van reportedly killed instantly.
00:04:17.720 The driver later died at the hospital.
00:04:19.300 The victims, a 37-year-old Pompano Beach woman, a 30-year-old Florida City man, and a 54-year-old Miami man.
00:04:28.060 Fox News confirming Singh is an Indian national who in 2018 crossed illegally into California
00:04:34.360 and was arrested by Border Patrol.
00:04:37.180 Singh was initially processed for expedited removal,
00:04:40.260 then in 2019 filed an asylum claim and was released into the country on bond.
00:04:45.740 He has remained in immigration limbo ever since.
00:04:49.860 Governor Ron DeSantis, who had no role in Singh's immigration status but in whose state this accident occurred,
00:04:56.520 posting on X, quote,
00:04:57.820 illegal alien issued commercial driver's license by California, doesn't even speak English.
00:05:03.600 Sanctuary policies are deadly.
00:05:06.260 California Governor Gavin Newsom's press office in an X post,
00:05:10.000 claiming the driver was given work authorization under Trump 1.0,
00:05:13.560 which it said would allow him to later obtain that commercial driver's license.
00:05:18.560 Department of Homeland Security official Tricia McLaughlin responding, however,
00:05:22.760 that the Trump administration actually denied Singh work authorization in 2020,
00:05:27.780 but the Biden administration then greenlit his work permit in 2021.
00:05:33.100 Singh is currently being held in San Joaquin County Jail in California without bail.
00:05:38.180 Governor DeSantis wants Singh to face justice in his state,
00:05:41.420 telling Fox News the governor is working with federal officials to extradite Singh back to Florida,
00:05:46.920 where he will be charged with three counts of vehicular homicide.
00:05:51.280 ICE also issuing a detainer for Singh,
00:05:53.900 and DHS is seeking to place him in removal proceedings,
00:05:57.260 pointing out in a statement that Singh showed no remorse upon realizing the carnage he caused.
00:06:02.860 This accident, now the latest flashpoint in the Trump administration's drive to crack down
00:06:07.480 on how commercial driver's licenses are issued.
00:06:10.500 Driver's licenses are handled state by state,
00:06:12.960 but when it comes to commercial drivers who cross state lines,
00:06:16.560 the federal government sets the minimum standards.
00:06:19.460 A 2016 memorandum issued under President Obama removed requirements to take drivers off the road
00:06:26.040 for English language proficiency violations and eased the enforcement standards.
00:06:30.740 This past April, President Trump signing an executive order reversing that memorandum.
00:06:35.920 The executive order reading in part,
00:06:38.560 quote, federal law requires that to operate a commercial vehicle,
00:06:42.420 a driver must read and speak the English language sufficiently to converse with the general public,
00:06:47.740 to understand highway traffic signs and signals in the English language.
00:06:51.740 Yet this requirement has not been enforced in years,
00:06:54.640 and America's roadways have become less safe.
00:06:56.980 Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy at a June press conference
00:07:00.740 explaining how the feds will enforce this requirement.
00:07:03.960 We are issuing new guidance that ensures a driver who can't understand English
00:07:08.520 will not drive a commercial vehicle in this country, period, full stop.
00:07:15.060 We're changing the rule in regard to someone who is pulled over and can't speak the language.
00:07:21.160 They'll be put out of service,
00:07:22.240 where before they'd be given a slap on the wrist and allowed to continue on their way.
00:07:26.560 So the consequence of taking one of these vehicles out of service
00:07:30.500 and having the company come back and find another driver, it becomes very costly.
00:07:35.460 This is done by our partners in law enforcement,
00:07:37.880 whether it's at way stations or if it's just interactions that law enforcement have.
00:07:43.880 But when they see those drivers who, again, can't communicate,
00:07:47.060 they'll take them out of service.
00:07:48.060 So, again, there's not one umbrella in which this will fall under.
00:07:52.460 It's the whole spectrum of law enforcement on our roadways.
00:07:56.280 According to Secretary Duffy, in 2015,
00:07:58.780 nearly 100,000 drivers had language proficiency violations,
00:08:03.500 with 1,000 taken off the road.
00:08:05.840 In 2024, under the loosened enforcement requirements,
00:08:09.780 that number dropping to 10,000 violations, with none taken off the streets.
00:08:14.640 In late July, the Daily Signal reporting within the first 30 days of the new guidance taking effect,
00:08:21.040 more than 1,500 commercial drivers were placed out of service.
00:08:26.960 The House Oversight Committee officially kicking off its investigation
00:08:30.360 into the DOJ's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case.
00:08:33.960 The committee issuing subpoenas for several former attorneys general
00:08:37.280 and Justice Department officials as part of a wide-ranging probe
00:08:40.640 into Epstein's prosecution and mysterious death in prison.
00:08:44.840 Former Attorney General Bill Barr on Monday deposed by lawmakers
00:08:48.140 for more than four hours behind closed doors.
00:08:51.500 Mr. Barr served as Attorney General under President Trump from February 2019
00:08:55.580 to December 2020, recusing himself from the Epstein case, however,
00:09:00.380 citing a conflict of interest as one of the law firms
00:09:03.800 that previously represented the disgraced financier
00:09:06.580 was part of a firm Mr. Barr later worked for.
00:09:09.580 Barr's father was headmaster at the prestigious Dalton School in New York City,
00:09:14.080 when Epstein taught there in the 1970s.
00:09:17.260 Epstein died in custody in August 2019.
00:09:20.800 Though Mr. Barr recused himself from the case,
00:09:22.920 he later said he was, quote,
00:09:24.720 appalled by Epstein's death, ordering the inspector general
00:09:27.880 to investigate the circumstances of Epstein's demise.
00:09:31.620 Democrats on the committee speaking to reporters on Monday,
00:09:34.260 criticizing Republicans' handling of the deposition,
00:09:37.440 saying they've been left with more questions than answers.
00:09:40.100 Here now, Democrat Congressman Suhas Subramaniam of Virginia
00:09:44.160 and Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett of Texas.
00:09:46.740 I think the Democratic side is doing most of the heavy lifting.
00:09:50.700 I don't think we're learning much from the questioning from the House Republicans.
00:09:54.820 It seems like they are going through the motions
00:09:56.880 and they want people to believe that they are digging in.
00:09:59.980 But at the end of the day,
00:10:00.940 I don't think that we've learned anything through the Republican questioning
00:10:03.980 that you couldn't find in one of the articles
00:10:07.300 that most likely your outlets have printed.
00:10:09.800 Head of the committee, Congressman James Comer,
00:10:11.720 sharply disagreeing with that assessment,
00:10:13.200 pointing to several newsy answers from the former AG.
00:10:16.980 What Attorney General Barr testified in there
00:10:20.560 was that he never had conversations with President Trump
00:10:24.700 pertaining to a client list.
00:10:27.880 He didn't know anything about a client list.
00:10:29.520 He said that he had never seen anything
00:10:32.740 that would implicate President Trump in any of this
00:10:35.800 and that he believed if there had been anything
00:10:38.680 pertaining to President Trump with respect to the Epstein list
00:10:41.880 that he felt like the Biden administration
00:10:44.080 would have probably leaked it out.
00:10:46.320 And I think that's pretty much conventional wisdom
00:10:49.360 among anyone that's practical in this.
00:10:52.120 So I think it's a good deposition
00:10:53.860 and obviously we're asking a lot of tough questions.
00:10:57.600 A reporter asking former AG Bill Barr
00:11:00.160 if he had a good conversation,
00:11:01.940 Mr. Barr responding, quote, absolutely.
00:11:04.560 The DOJ missing Tuesday's deadline
00:11:06.500 to turn over all Epstein-related files
00:11:08.680 to the Oversight Committee.
00:11:10.260 Congressman Comer revealing the committee
00:11:11.920 expects to begin receiving those documents by Friday.
00:11:15.340 You can imagine how many documents there are.
00:11:18.080 They're compiling everything together.
00:11:20.120 I think we're working together in a good faith effort
00:11:23.180 and everything's coming along.
00:11:24.900 Former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez,
00:11:27.760 who headed the DOJ when Epstein first came
00:11:29.980 under investigation in 2007,
00:11:32.600 but who had stepped down before that case
00:11:34.800 was finally closed in 2008,
00:11:37.640 set to meet with lawmakers next week.
00:11:39.900 Several other big names like Bill and Hillary Clinton
00:11:42.380 could also be coming in the fall.
00:11:46.000 Coming up, investigators continue the search
00:11:48.740 for missing baby Emanuel Harrow
00:11:50.780 as disturbing new details about the baby's father emerge.
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00:12:38.900 The search for missing seven-month-old California baby
00:12:45.260 Emanuel Harrow continues as new details emerge
00:12:48.580 about the father, Jake Harrow's 2023 child cruelty conviction,
00:12:54.120 Harrow's lawyer speaking out for the first time.
00:12:57.080 A listener warning, this may be upsetting.
00:12:59.700 The Orange County Register reporting on an affidavit
00:13:02.960 tied to an investigation into a 10-week-old baby
00:13:06.380 admitted to Hemet Valley Hospital on October 13th, 2018
00:13:10.900 for treatment of broken bones.
00:13:14.100 Jake Harrow's previous wife, Vanessa Harrow,
00:13:17.240 telling authorities she had been out of the home
00:13:19.380 on October 12th, and when she returned
00:13:21.760 and tried to nurse the baby,
00:13:23.520 she claimed the child would not drink,
00:13:25.540 so she brought the baby to the hospital.
00:13:28.220 Doctors at the Loma Linda University Medical Center
00:13:31.020 reporting to authorities the baby had an acute fractured rib,
00:13:35.180 healing fractures of six ribs, a skull fracture,
00:13:39.600 and brain hemorrhage, along with swelling of the neck
00:13:42.360 and a healing fractured leg bone.
00:13:45.200 Again, the baby was 10 weeks old.
00:13:48.300 Jake Harrow telling investigators that while Vanessa
00:13:51.160 was out of the house, he found the baby had a fever.
00:13:54.380 As he was bathing the baby, he claimed he accidentally
00:13:58.020 dropped the child chest first on the divider
00:14:00.900 of the sink basin, but could not detect any injuries.
00:14:05.000 The man reportedly telling investigators later that night,
00:14:08.040 Vanessa asked him to feel the baby's back,
00:14:10.820 and he felt something crackle.
00:14:13.320 The affidavit quoting the doctor, saying,
00:14:15.460 quote, the combination of the above findings
00:14:17.580 in a pre-mobile infant in the absence of a plausible history
00:14:21.600 of significant trauma to explain the injuries
00:14:24.160 is indicative of abuse, head trauma,
00:14:27.740 child physical abuse, and nutritional neglect.
00:14:31.300 Mr. Harrow telling authorities he found a search on his iPad
00:14:34.580 for how to feed a baby with broken ribs,
00:14:38.420 later blaming his wife, Vanessa, for those injuries.
00:14:42.260 Jake Harrow filing for a domestic violence restraining order
00:14:45.420 shortly after the baby was admitted to the hospital,
00:14:48.300 a motion that was eventually dismissed.
00:14:50.340 On October 5th, 2021, Jake and Vanessa Harrow
00:14:54.580 were charged with willful child cruelty,
00:14:57.560 both pleading guilty in June 2023.
00:15:01.120 Jake Harrow was sentenced to 180 days
00:15:03.300 in a work release program
00:15:04.780 and given a suspended four-year sentence,
00:15:07.500 as well as ordered to attend
00:15:08.760 a child abuser treatment program.
00:15:11.920 Vanessa Harrow was sentenced to 120 days
00:15:14.540 in the work release program
00:15:15.680 and also ordered to attend
00:15:17.920 the child abuser treatment program.
00:15:20.340 Defense attorney Vincent Hughes,
00:15:22.260 who represented Jake Harrow
00:15:23.980 in the first child abuse charge,
00:15:26.020 and is representing him again,
00:15:28.360 speaking out for the first time
00:15:29.780 to Fox 11 Los Angeles on Tuesday.
00:15:33.120 He reached that deal through a plea agreement,
00:15:35.700 so he did plead guilty.
00:15:37.000 He acknowledged his role in that situation,
00:15:39.060 and there was more than one person convicted.
00:15:41.100 None of that has been relayed
00:15:42.300 through the media whatsoever.
00:15:43.720 Because no one cares, sir,
00:15:46.060 that the ex-wife was equally terrible.
00:15:48.440 The question is whether Jake Harrow hurt baby Emanuel,
00:15:52.240 and his history as a baby beater is highly relevant.
00:15:56.740 This is infuriating.
00:15:58.600 Jake Harrow is set to appear again in court
00:16:01.080 on September 2nd in relation to a probation violation
00:16:04.080 for his earlier abuse case.
00:16:07.860 The San Bernardino Sheriff's Department
00:16:09.420 releasing a statement on Saturday
00:16:11.080 in which they accuse Jake
00:16:13.300 and Emanuel's mother, Rebecca,
00:16:15.820 of not cooperating with their investigation,
00:16:18.880 a claim later publicly corroborated
00:16:21.020 by Rebecca's own mother.
00:16:23.300 Jake's attorney says that's not true,
00:16:25.600 that the parents have turned over
00:16:26.960 their phones, laptops, and passwords.
00:16:30.340 KTLA reporting, however,
00:16:32.040 that was in response to a search warrant.
00:16:35.080 Jake's attorney says the sheriffs here
00:16:37.000 are the ones who should be doing more.
00:16:38.680 It doesn't seem law enforcement
00:16:40.080 is doing anything to find this child.
00:16:41.720 He's holed up in his house with his family
00:16:44.300 because they are not getting the support that they need.
00:16:47.440 They have people trampling on their property.
00:16:49.100 They have death threats being made.
00:16:50.560 All of the reports I'm seeing on social media
00:16:52.120 that Jake and his wife are running,
00:16:54.320 have fled the country,
00:16:55.120 have fled the jurisdiction,
00:16:56.260 they're at their home.
00:16:57.020 They're at their home,
00:16:58.340 holed up, scared for their own safety,
00:17:00.580 grieving for their son.
00:17:02.540 I have personally spent time with Jake
00:17:04.800 and have seen the emotions in his face.
00:17:07.100 He is not in any way running, hiding,
00:17:11.240 or doing anything to exhibit any behaviors
00:17:13.580 of somebody that is trying to be deceptive in this case.
00:17:17.220 Many are skeptical.
00:17:19.460 Online speculation is exploding about this couple.
00:17:23.040 Never a truer word podcast host, Jack Fox,
00:17:26.620 who regularly delves into forensic statement analysis,
00:17:30.060 finding Rebecca's recounting of the abduction problematic.
00:17:33.320 Here's Rebecca's version of events
00:17:35.680 as told to ABC7 on Friday.
00:17:38.600 I got him out of the car seat
00:17:40.540 and I laid him down
00:17:42.900 so I could get his diapers ready.
00:17:45.200 And somebody said,
00:17:46.440 hola, and that's all I remember.
00:17:49.020 And I saw, I saw why.
00:17:50.960 And the hearing sound,
00:17:52.160 I fell on the floor
00:17:53.620 and I said as I got up,
00:17:57.960 I couldn't find my son.
00:17:59.880 Mr. Fox highlighting Rebecca's choice of words,
00:18:02.940 saying the way she describes the event
00:18:04.540 implies the baby was already missing.
00:18:07.360 She wants to persuade us of the urgency
00:18:09.300 and immediacy of this.
00:18:10.820 And then I couldn't find my son.
00:18:14.060 Not, my son was gone.
00:18:16.120 Not, my son was missing.
00:18:18.140 My son wasn't where he was.
00:18:19.640 Suggested to me wording of something
00:18:21.480 that is already missing
00:18:23.140 because she's gone from her son being there
00:18:25.220 to not being able to find him.
00:18:26.920 She's no realization there
00:18:28.580 that her son was missing.
00:18:30.620 It's, I couldn't find my son
00:18:31.960 so he was already missing in these words.
00:18:35.220 Fox, along with many others tracking the story,
00:18:37.620 also noting both parents describing their son
00:18:40.340 in the past tense.
00:18:42.220 More from the Parents Friday interview.
00:18:44.340 He was a happy boy.
00:18:46.620 He smiled.
00:18:47.880 Mackenzie loved to kiss him.
00:18:50.640 He was a healthy baby.
00:18:51.860 He was, uh, he was crawling.
00:18:53.860 He was kicking and he was playing with his toys.
00:18:56.800 Back to Jack Fox.
00:18:58.400 This is the mother of a seven month old baby boy.
00:19:01.840 There is a big bond between them.
00:19:04.260 Right now, she thinks that the child
00:19:06.320 has been snatched, in her words, from her truck.
00:19:10.120 As she's talking, she should be in present tense
00:19:12.400 because the child is still with us.
00:19:14.520 So she should be saying he is a happy boy.
00:19:17.180 He's a smiley boy.
00:19:18.640 He is a smiley boy or something like that.
00:19:20.940 For her to go into past tense,
00:19:22.600 which is what we use when people are no more.
00:19:24.940 He was a happy boy.
00:19:27.260 He smiled.
00:19:28.760 That suggests to me that she knows
00:19:31.440 that this boy is in the past,
00:19:33.740 which is why she's referring to him in the past tense.
00:19:36.000 Despite some reporting that investigators
00:19:38.180 are now targeting Jake and Rebecca,
00:19:41.260 the Sheriff's Department telling AM update on Tuesday,
00:19:43.760 no one has been ruled out.
00:19:46.300 KTLA reporting that investigators
00:19:48.400 have seized the vehicle of Jake Harrow,
00:19:51.480 though it is unclear whether that is a separate car
00:19:54.060 from the truck Rebecca was driving
00:19:55.800 when baby Emanuel allegedly went missing.
00:19:59.600 Anyone with information about Emanuel's disappearance
00:20:02.040 is asked to call 911
00:20:03.480 or the San Bernardino Sheriff's Department
00:20:05.740 at 909-890-4904.
00:20:09.380 And that'll do it for your AM update.
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