The Megyn Kelly Show - New Tucker Leaks, and Meghan Markle Skips Coronation, with Mark Steyn, Sophie Corcoran, and Leilani Dowding ｜ Ep. 544

00:00:00.480 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:11.860 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday.

00:00:16.100 The coronation of King Charles begins this weekend, happens tomorrow, and we have a fantastic line of

00:00:21.820 guests to help break down how Meghan Markle plans on stealing the show. But first, we begin with 0.97

00:00:28.100 news stateside, including the fallout following the death of a homeless man on a New York City

00:00:33.380 subway this week. The left is losing its mind over this, trying to make this guy into the next

00:00:38.520 George Floyd. Good luck. Good luck. Neely was reportedly living on the streets of New York City

00:00:44.880 and had been for many years, and on Monday went on a subway car, the downtown L train, and began yelling

00:00:51.720 and threatening passengers. He was restrained in a chokehold. No, today was the, or this time was

00:00:57.840 the F train. He'd caused trouble before on the L train. He's been on all of them. He was restrained

00:01:02.660 in a chokehold by a Marine veteran and fell unconscious. EMS workers at the station were

00:01:08.320 unable to revive him, and he has died. Now the left, including AOC, is calling this a murder,

00:01:16.560 a lynching, and demanding for the Marine to be charged accordingly. As of now, Manhattan prosecutors

00:01:22.940 are continuing to conduct an investigation into the death, which has been ruled a homicide,

00:01:28.600 but that doesn't attribute any intention to it. It's a death that's been caused by another,

00:01:35.360 and there's a big push by those who have a bloodthirst for anyone who intervenes to stop this

00:01:43.200 kind of behavior from happening, to see this Marine charged with a crime that would put him in jail for

00:01:48.820 the rest of his life. Joining me today, very happy to see Mark Stein is here, host of The Mark Stein Show

00:01:54.520 and author of the new fiction book, The Prisoner of Windsor. Mark, great to have you.

00:02:00.980 Hey, it's always good to see you, Megan.

00:02:05.060 Likewise. So let's start with this case, because the left really is trying to make this guy

00:02:09.260 into the next George Floyd. He's black, the man who died, the homeless man, the Marine veteran is white,

00:02:16.780 and that was all they needed to pounce. AOC, she calls this a public execution. She calls this 1.00

00:02:25.140 a murder. I'll just read you in part what she says. Jordan Neely, that's the name of the decedent,

00:02:31.460 was murdered. But because Jordan was houseless and crying for food in a time when the city is raising 0.62

00:02:38.320 rents and stripping services to militarize itself, while many in power demonize the poor,

00:02:42.580 the murderer gets protected with passive headlines and no charges. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. 0.94

00:02:49.640 She goes on from there. It wasn't a murder. A murder is an intentional killing of another. 0.88

00:02:56.160 There's clearly no intent by this Marine to kill this man. But the thing about it, Mark, is she and

00:03:01.840 others intentionally ignore the fact that for the umpteenth time, this guy Neely was on board a subway

00:03:08.420 train actively threatening, not just yelling, threatening the passengers, and he had hurt

00:03:15.480 others on the subway before in the not-too-distant past. He had just gotten out of prison

00:03:21.280 recently for assaulting a 67-year-old woman, fracturing her orbital bone, breaking her nose,

00:03:29.260 causing head injuries, and so on. He had just been arrested again this past February.

00:03:33.080 He'd hurt a lot of people, but we're supposed to pretend he's still the Michael Jackson imitator

00:03:38.400 that used to perform on the subway tracks 10 years ago.

00:03:42.100 No. And you say all that, and that would apply, Megan, if we were in a rational system of justice,

00:03:52.480 which Democrat cities aren't anymore. They all operate far more on the basic Leninist principle

00:03:59.460 of who whom. This is a black homeless man, and so that, by definition, puts him in the victim 1.00

00:04:06.680 category. And if I were the guy who'd put him in the chokehold, if I were advising that guy,

00:04:16.540 it's a bit late for that now, but I would have told him to hop in the back of the pickup truck,

00:04:21.200 and I'd drive him across the border into Canada, because it's doubtful if they do decide

00:04:26.160 to go ahead and prosecute him whether he can actually get a fair trial. It's not a George

00:04:34.220 Floyd case, but it's part of the consequences of George Floyd, which is that Democrat cities

00:04:40.220 across the United States have become increasingly lawless. And basically, when you're on the subway,

00:04:45.380 you're on your own down there. We've heard all the stories about people getting thrown in front

00:04:51.260 of the tracks and all the rest of it. And there's no law down in the New York subway at the moment.

00:04:57.980 And actually, I would say there's no law even in Midtown Manhattan. Back when I used to guest host

00:05:06.760 for Tucker Carlson from New York, I used to stroll the two or three blocks from my hotel to Midtown

00:05:16.000 Manhattan. Never bothered with the car service. I'd just walk up 6th Avenue, and then when the show

00:05:21.740 was over, I'd walk back at night and be quite happy to pose for selfies and things with people.

00:05:27.800 You never know now, in these Democrat-run cities, the point at which it's all going to go south for

00:05:35.180 you. So it's all very well to say, oh, well, he was just goofy, and he was shouting, and he was 0.64

00:05:41.040 excited. He was just a poor homeless man. There's no need to go and kill him. Unfortunately, the reality 0.51

00:05:48.340 of American cities, and it should embarrass the Democrat Party, I don't even know why they're

00:05:55.200 actually talking about this, is they've rendered them lawless. They've turned them over, and you're

00:06:00.240 supposed, and then if you have to make a calculation, you've got a split second to make a calculation

00:06:05.720 about whether this guy is just a harmless nutter, or he means you ill. And then somebody like AOC from

00:06:12.940 behind her entourage gets to second-guess you. It's disgusting, man. 0.99

00:06:18.280 Absolutely right. So well said. The guy who took some of the video that we've seen, 0.74

00:06:25.020 he filmed part of the encounter. His name is Juan Alberto Vasquez. He's a freelance journalist.

00:06:30.100 He told the New York Post and WNBC that this homeless guy, Neely, came on, started making a

00:06:35.960 speech, started screaming in an aggressive manner. This is a third-party witness. He doesn't have a

00:06:39.940 dog in this haunted. Said he had no food. I have nothing to drink. I'm tired, and I don't care if

00:06:45.720 I go to jail. Then Vasquez told WNBC that he, Vasquez, was scared, and that others on board the

00:06:51.820 subway were scared, too. They could tell that he was behaving in a threatening manner, and that had been

00:06:57.440 a long thing for him. He has a long history of doing that, at least 42 arrests for this guy over

00:07:03.760 the last 10 years. Just to get the chronology right, the New York Times says, last arrested November 2021

00:07:09.760 for hitting that 67-year-old woman in the face. Before that, June of 2019, arrested for punching a

00:07:15.840 64-year-old man in the face during a fight in a subway station in Greenwich Village. In August 2015,

00:07:22.360 arrested for attempted kidnapping after he was seen dragging a 7-year-old girl down a street. He

00:07:29.480 pleaded guilty to endangering the welfare of a child there. This was not a well person. This was

00:07:35.900 not sweet Michael Jackson imitator. His own grandparents, with whom he spent most of his

00:07:41.720 time, you know, when he did try to find housing, would not let him inside the house at night. So

00:07:47.520 dangerous was he? He threatened to kill his own grandfather repeatedly. He'd been sent to Bellevue

00:07:53.160 for psychiatric services time after time, said he was schizophrenic, said he was hearing voices. The

00:07:57.580 city ultimately failed him, I mean, in every single way. Just now in New York, Mark, we have a mayor and

00:08:03.540 sort of the governor saying, maybe we should be more open-minded to involuntary commitment for people

00:08:09.640 like this. And all the local officials beneath the mayor are saying, absolutely not. The left is saying,

00:08:14.500 absolutely not. You can't affect their civil liberties. But now that he's dead, they want to

00:08:19.560 protect him. Well, what I find interesting about what you just said is that if you were to, if you're

00:08:27.600 just haphazardly following this story in the media, the Michael Jackson impersonation stuff is the only

00:08:37.040 bit you'll take away. I don't know whether, I don't know, have no interest in the guy's Michael Jackson

00:08:43.200 impersonation. I don't know whether he's doing the bad stuff. I don't know whether he's doing the early

00:08:49.800 Jackson 5 stuff. Oh, look there, he's doing the, I was completely wrong on both counts. He's doing the

00:08:56.240 mid-period thriller moonwalk stuff. Who the hell thinks that this is actually the salient point of this

00:09:05.060 story? Now, that 67-year-old, if you're hit at the age of 67 by a big, powerful guy like this,

00:09:13.800 you're not kind of quite 100% for the rest of your life. That actually is something you live with,

00:09:20.880 even if you survive it, even if your injuries are superficial, there are consequences to that

00:09:26.920 that will stay with you forever. Yet the fact that he's still, oh, you know, it's a thriller,

00:09:32.440 beat it, bend the two of us, whatever Michael Jackson. Why is that the only angle? Because as I was

00:09:41.880 saying earlier, it goes back to, you know, there's approved victim class and approved predator class.

00:09:49.160 So the Marine who tackled him means that this guy is in the designated victim class. And as I said,

00:09:59.820 the point is, you have a split second to decide, is this guy just, is this that charming, delightful

00:10:07.220 Michael Jackson impersonator I saw two or three years ago? Or is this guy actually going to slug a

00:10:14.180 little old lady in the face? You've got a couple of split seconds to decide that. And none of the 1.00

00:10:20.420 people weighing in on this, AOC, the governor, the mayor, they're never going to be down there in

00:10:26.460 that situation. Because unfortunately, in this country, we're bifurcating into a Latin American 0.87

00:10:34.540 style society where there's the ruling class behind their entourages with their private security teams,

00:10:44.180 and then there's the great big mass of the rest of us who have to take our chances where we can.

00:10:50.580 Exactly right. The New York Post, Nicole Galinas has an article dated yesterday saying,

00:10:57.640 Neely's life mattered, and so did the lives of the 27 other people violently killed on the subway

00:11:03.680 since March of 2020. 27 other people. She points out that this city councilwoman, Tiffany Caban,

00:11:12.700 is out there alleging that this is racist, that this is wrong, that this is murder. And this is

00:11:19.420 the same person who, even as four people were killed within a month last fall on the subway,

00:11:25.800 including this union steam fitter who had two kids, he was on his way home from work,

00:11:29.400 a city field worker, similarly, on his way home from work late night, dismissed concerns about subway

00:11:34.820 violence back then, calling these one in a million events. This is a one in a million.

00:11:38.240 Yeah. Okay. How about this? This is not one of them. You don't care about the 27 others.

00:11:42.740 This guy, why? It's solely because of the racial element.

00:11:46.060 Yeah. And it's absolutely, I mean, basically, the Democrat-run cities, New York and elsewhere,

00:11:54.280 have decided to create an atmosphere that incentivizes lawlessness.

00:11:59.920 They pass. It doesn't matter. Stealing stuff doesn't matter unless you steal over whatever

00:12:06.900 it is now, 500 bucks worth of merchandise. The fact that you can just be randomly thrown onto the

00:12:14.420 tracks, the fact that you can be killed just coming home from work. These are things that should

00:12:20.200 actually shame the city of New York. The fact is, if some guy was goofing around in a functioning

00:12:27.800 subway system, you would hope that there would be someone down there representing the transit

00:12:35.160 system or representing the metropolis who would act and do it for you. But you're on your own down

00:12:41.900 there. You are on your own. And that's particularly true if you're, I mean, when you look at these

00:12:46.100 like small Asian ladies tossed onto the tracks, in that situation, you need to hope that there's some 1.00

00:12:56.920 guy around who's willing to get into the guy's face. And this is all there. And actually, it's not

00:13:03.940 even, I mean, they have this sort of thing going on in relatively small cities these days. It's

00:13:10.160 actually trickle down lawlessness starts in the big coastal metropolis and then trickles down to all

00:13:19.300 kinds of smaller cities. But you know what's going on. Big chain stores are suddenly deciding,

00:13:25.380 eh, we don't actually think we can operate in this place anymore because there's too many

00:13:30.260 homeless people coming in and shooting up in the bathrooms. So we're going to close down our 1.00

00:13:35.300 Starbucks and just the cost of operating in these towns. So they're going to get worse and worse and

00:13:44.100 more and more lawless. It's the realization of the broken windows theory. That was Bill Brattens who

00:13:50.500 cleaned up the city under Mayor Giuliani. You don't let the broken windows stay broken. You don't let

00:13:54.840 the graffiti go unprosecuted. You don't let the subway jumpers jump this turnstile because as soon as you

00:14:00.280 allow people to start doing that stuff, they start doing worse things because there's an element of

00:14:05.820 lawlessness in the air. A couple of things. Michael Jackson impersonator, sweet, innocent,

00:14:10.780 don't worry. Andy Ngo retweeted this. It was from a post on Reddit. Nine years ago, this was posted

00:14:18.040 nine years ago on Reddit. The headline of the post was try to stay away from the Michael Jackson

00:14:23.780 impersonator. If you see him used to be all cool dancing to MJ in the subway train, but as of late,

00:14:29.160 he's become a maniac sometime in late spring, early summer. I saw him in the train is radio effed up

00:14:34.200 and he was angry as F cursing and bad mouthing community commuters screaming. What the F are you 0.99

00:14:39.380 looking at? Don't effing. Look at me. Totally did not expect him to act this way ever since that day. 0.99

00:14:44.580 He's just been a scary dude to me. He doesn't dress up anymore. No more dancing. Just ask for money.

00:14:48.920 Occasionally shouting obscenities. Today, however, was odd sometime, excuse me, in the morning on my

00:14:54.740 way to school. I'm sitting on the bench out of nowhere. Here's someone going off, cussing up a

00:14:58.380 storm on and on. It was him. Excuse me. So this is not the first time. No, but what's so weird about

00:15:07.080 this is the desperation of, you know, I regard the American media as frankly, the worst in the

00:15:15.280 English speaking world. I'd rather read the Pakistani papers for an accurate take on what's

00:15:20.640 going on than the American papers. And what's fascinating to me is they don't care how far

00:15:28.420 back they have to go. Once they've decided that someone is the victim in a story, then you'll see

00:15:36.240 really weird things. It'll be like some 27 year old guy. But the only picture they'll ever use

00:15:42.020 is his high school yearbook photo. And they'll be doing all this, oh, the gentle giant and all that

00:15:49.180 kind of thing. And it's almost as if they all get the facts at 5.45 a.m. the first morning and they

00:15:58.400 never deviate from that. So this guy is going to be memorialized as a Michael Jackson impersonator

00:16:05.240 now and forever, even though, as you say, almost a decade ago, people were warning that the Michael

00:16:12.280 Jackson guy was, in fact, a man of violence. And here's what people are looking at, Mark,

00:16:19.020 just to bring it home. This broke in March. OK, so a month and a half ago, somebody caught video of

00:16:26.640 this. And many of us have had, if not this experience, something approaching it on the

00:16:32.000 subway. This accurately captures the nature of riding the New York City subway. It's not the

00:16:37.320 guy, Neely, who was just killed. It is another guy. But this is what life is like on the subway.

00:16:43.280 In this situation, there is a man who I can't tell if he's homeless or if he's just out of his mind,

00:16:48.300 but he's very clearly threatening a young man and woman who are with what appears to be a two year

00:16:54.640 old. I can't tell the gender of the kid, maybe boy sitting in between them. The couple does an

00:16:58.980 amazing job of trying to ignore him in an obvious attempt to deescalate. And he's getting angrier and

00:17:04.940 angrier. Take a listen.

00:17:10.720 Take them back to Europe. 1.00

00:17:11.760 I can't do it, but I think there's no beast that makes you Comis trusts God right now onCE in New York City.

00:17:21.600 I think what American community has made my conius in New York City, which is mostly

00:17:25.380 F�� muitas of them inネ Fatas Hocque, these guys, are the same thing they do, right?

00:17:30.100 Good DJ, I'm still with that in New York City.

00:17:32.140 my god he's getting right in the guy's face yeah and you have to decide and what they do

00:17:59.740 there is what everyone does in that situation you try not to catch the guy's eye you know there's

00:18:05.760 whatever there are there's 40 of you in the subway car and you hope uh oh it's one of the other 39

00:18:12.080 uh that he he he tries to go for but and this is why i'm you know i'm tired of uh hearing this from

00:18:20.020 our governing class that is disgraceful in what's supposed to be nominally a first world city that

00:18:27.520 you cannot ride the main means of transportation in that city without having that guy swearing at you

00:18:34.220 looking at you directly and using a whole big bunch of obscenities at you now you can't there's parts of

00:18:39.500 american life i happen to be in a big court case at the moment i can't go into a courtroom and start

00:18:47.040 yelling at a judge like that there's certain classes of americans who manage politicians and judges who

00:18:54.080 expect to be insulated from things like that then why the hell in a democratic republic when you ride

00:19:00.560 the main means of public transportation in what's supposed to be one of the great cities of the world

00:19:06.380 should you have to put up with that the people who run these cities the people who run these

00:19:10.660 transportation systems have consciously chosen not to enforce normal uh societal standards on that

00:19:20.260 transportation system and as you say it starts with the broken windows and it starts with uh you

00:19:26.120 know unleashing blizzards of swear words at random strangers and then it ends up with people getting

00:19:32.100 thrown on the tracks or murdered on the way home and why you know new new yorkers reward these people by

00:19:40.320 voting them back into office uh and uh and doing nothing uh about actually ensuring uh basic civilized

00:19:49.280 life so like taking your two-year-old on the subway without having to have the two-year-old uh it have

00:19:56.280 a terrifying traumatizing experience of being yelled at by some crazy guy they look like you hope is high 0.75

00:20:04.040 you hope is merely crazy and not actually homicidal right but they look like a high likelihood of that

00:20:10.700 guy attacking them if they didn't get off that subway immediately and it was in motion i can only imagine

00:20:14.700 their fear um i will say this we've now just learned the name of the marine it's daniel j penny

00:20:20.460 uh again retired marine he served in the marines between 2017 and 2021 was last stationed at camp lejeune

00:20:27.400 he's represented now he's gotten himself a lawyer because they're looking at possibly charging this guy

00:20:32.660 with possibly involuntary manslaughter all the way up to murder um here's this here's the thing

00:20:39.120 well well wait a minute wait a minute they're all they'll do that whole multi-charge thing as you

00:20:44.980 know which i also regard as uh basically a perversion of law where they'll charge him with involuntary

00:20:52.220 manslaughter and murder and three or four other things uh in between that guy's you know that guy's

00:20:59.720 looking at a totally wrecked life even if he manages to stay out of jail they were scared

00:21:06.000 everyone on board that subway car was scared the same way that couple with the two-year-old

00:21:11.360 was scared legitimately scared the same way i'm sure the 67 year old woman who this guy

00:21:16.920 nearly assaulted was scared that the elderly man he assaulted was scared so this marine did something

00:21:23.120 about it he felt threatened the the passengers on board the subway car felt threatened he got the

00:21:28.640 guy in a chokehold nobody was running over there and saying this is wrong stop no this is a george

00:21:34.900 floyd situation i'm sure the passengers were relieved that someone protected them according

00:21:40.260 to the eyewitnesses he did struggle he fought while he was in the chokehold which lasted 15 minutes and

00:21:46.240 then he stopped fighting and obviously had died the passengers did not realize that nor according to

00:21:52.420 most of the eyewitnesses did the marine realize that and then the subway train stopped but these

00:21:56.580 people were utterly failed by a city that wouldn't protect them thank god there was a marine there who

00:22:03.740 tried now somebody's going to get to decide whether it was excessive or not but i'd much rather be in a

00:22:10.020 subway car with a guy like that marine than without him but nobody should get to decide whether unless

00:22:16.720 you're there you never know you have anybody anybody i mean this is this idea of second guessing after the

00:22:24.740 event is discussing it happens uh as you know leilani and sophie would tell you uh later on after

00:22:33.040 the fact in the uk where where you know you wake up in the middle of the night and there's a guy coming

00:22:38.900 at you with a cricket bat and you're not allowed to reach for your pistol because he's only going to smash

00:22:45.940 your skull in with a cricket bat uh when you're in the you have a you have a few seconds to determine 0.99

00:22:53.460 the threat level when you're down there and you're on your own and the disgusting thing about this is 0.93

00:22:59.900 uh basically you know you might as well be in upcountry waziristan uh and uh and and a big bunch of guys

00:23:08.220 from the taliban have decided to take it out anew because uh the the a law abiding society does not

00:23:17.080 function on the new york subway that's the thing they've abandoned it to the wild west uh or they

00:23:23.640 or if you prefer the sunni triangle and it's sunni triangle rules down there you're on your own and you

00:23:30.200 have to make the decision the uh reaction from the lawmakers just a couple uh jabari brisport

00:23:38.200 new york state senator tweets out jordan neely was lynched he had no food no water no safe place

00:23:45.180 to rest he had the audacity to publicly yell about that massive injustice so they killed him who the

00:23:50.140 hell is this state lawmaker to say where were why didn't you step in sir why didn't you encourage

00:23:56.980 new york city to do more why didn't you make sure that we had the proper police presence because in new

00:24:01.320 york uh we've seen 3700 cops retire or resign in 2022 alone in new york city 3700 that's the most

00:24:11.560 since the post 9 11 exodus in 2002 um they're in they defunded the police by a billion dollars before

00:24:17.760 they quietly realized they needed a refund and now the state senator is going to say oh it was just a

00:24:22.300 homeless guy oh he was just hungry you weren't there and ayanna presley mark same thing i'll give

00:24:27.600 you the floor ayanna presley is the one she's queen of defund the police while she's getting 1.00

00:24:33.060 protected with our tax dollars and she tweets out he was 30 years old black men deserve to grow old 0.86

00:24:39.120 not be lynched on a subway because they were having a mental health crisis jordan deserve better

00:24:44.180 accountability now well this is this is the alliance between the new york ruling class and the

00:24:52.760 new york criminal class uh basically they have decided that uh that that they they've decriminalized

00:25:00.840 certain acts they've said that uh you you're not uh we don't need bail if you're accused of certain acts

00:25:06.980 uh we're not going to detain you if you're accused of certain acts and they have unleashed a wave of as a

00:25:13.840 matter of this is that this is the point it's as a matter of policy that they have de-civilized

00:25:21.320 uh new york city and this is part of the consequences of it and people who just do regular jobs you know

00:25:27.520 you might work in a a pharmacy you work in uh walgreen or cvs or whatever uh and you go into the city and

00:25:35.220 then you take the subway uh to one of the outer boroughs home at night they have to live with the

00:25:40.600 consequences of this these people these nobody should listen to a new york state senator nobody should

00:25:47.620 uh listen to an assemblyman or whatever the hell they're they're called there these people have

00:25:52.980 failed their city and this is the consequence of their policies the video which will show you um

00:26:00.300 that we have part of shows this guy down on the subway floor and again in this video you can see

00:26:07.380 the the passengers the passengers are not saying like get off of him this is post george floyd nor does

00:26:13.560 this marine look like he has bloodlust in his in his heart there's another passenger trying to assist

00:26:19.620 as neely struggles to get out of the other guy's restraints now look it's it's not a pleasant thing

00:26:28.720 to look at i understand that there's two other guys helping the marine restrain him because he

00:26:32.700 continues to fight especially because we know the outcome but when i see this mark i can't get over the

00:26:37.340 fact that the city took away the cops the city would not actually provide the involuntary commitment

00:26:43.360 that the mayor had pushed for because the left pushed back against it too much became a political

00:26:47.720 hot potato the city passed him from psychiatric hospital to psychiatric hospital without really doing

00:26:54.180 much if anything about him the city let him commit multiple crimes without really going after him you

00:27:00.040 know he got 42 arrests only went to jail for one of them and now a citizen steps in to protect his

00:27:05.560 fellow citizens and all the ire of the world goes against him not the city not the people who failed

00:27:13.160 the new yorkers on board that subway train or jordan neely himself to be honest all against the marine

00:27:18.500 why because marine and most of all because white yep absolutely and and that's because everything has

00:27:26.920 to be fitted into these lazy uh dreary and misleading but indestructible racial paradigms now we just saw 0.95

00:27:37.280 in the video uh that you just played there megan that uh one of the people assisting the marine was black

00:27:44.420 himself uh as you said trying to hold as as the marines uh holding him around the neck uh and is the

00:27:52.980 guy's arms are still flailing and punching and lashing out it's another black man who takes hold of one of 0.97

00:27:59.200 those arms but immediately this decadent corrupt and depraved political class starts oh let's see what 0.94

00:28:08.080 19th century uh uh uh racial cliches we can apply to the oh yes lynching we're calling it a lynching 0.97

00:28:15.820 here's here's a a law-abiding black man supposedly participating in the lynching of the other black man

00:28:24.000 these cliches are terrible and corrosive and actually at what lead to this hideous politicized

00:28:32.920 justice uh which has become the hallmark of uh new york and similar cities where as i said if that guy

00:28:40.680 had said to me when he got off the train i'd have said hop in the car i'll drive you over the canadian

00:28:46.140 border because uh the politicization of this stuff starts immediately and the likelihood of a fair

00:28:53.580 trial recedes with every passing day of coverage like this that you've got of course the race

00:29:00.180 hustlers like al sharpton out there saying i fought against bernard getz yeah and i'll fight this too

00:29:06.260 bernard getz who is this vigilante who shot no i remember yeah black people in the subway years ago

00:29:12.100 in the 70s that the he felt he was being menaced by them whatever this guy by all accounts was this was

00:29:18.300 in defense of others that that they felt threatened on board this train and if you know the history of

00:29:23.300 this guy there was probably good reason to it we'll hear more about what preceded the chokehold but

00:29:28.100 i i will predict there isn't a jury even in manhattan which is very liberal that would convict this

00:29:33.500 marine too many of them especially people who have to serve on juries we all have to do it um they they

00:29:39.440 ride the subway those are the ones who are on the subway every day they know very well how scary it's

00:29:45.300 gotten down there well i i hope so megan but i i still know uh as anyone who's attracted the attention

00:29:54.940 of the so-called justice system knows that this is still going to consume a couple of years of this

00:30:01.560 guy's life and uh he is going to be a hate figure he's going he's already being demonized by the left

00:30:08.620 now as you say there's lots of helpless people you look at that that that video you showed of the

00:30:14.020 young couple with their little kids sitting in between there's a there's an obligation in

00:30:19.300 functioning societies when you see a guy like that and he's threatening little little children are

00:30:25.800 terrified and and little old ladies are thinking oh am i going to wind up like that 67 year old am i

00:30:32.380 going to get sucker punched and going to need facial reconstruction surgery uh there's an actually an

00:30:38.260 obligation uh uh to stand up and face that kind of thing down because it shouldn't be happening 0.99

00:30:45.840 this is this is pathetic you know you can say a lot of bad things about a lot of other places in 0.64

00:30:52.420 continental europe or whatever but the idea that you cannot ride the new york subway without having 0.97

00:30:59.400 random strangers bellowing obscenities into your face and you're supposed to know as aoc says oh he's

00:31:07.800 just some nice homeless person maybe he'll do a michael jackson impersonation uh maybe he's non-binary 0.72

00:31:14.820 and he'll do a beyonce impersonation but he's no danger to you this is actually the beginning of

00:31:21.280 this is a sign of civilizational decadence that no political party should actually be incentivizing

00:31:28.140 well said uh we'll take a quick break more with mark stein after this we'll play you the latest

00:31:33.980 media matters edition against tucker carlson and fox's pretend response don't go away

00:31:40.300 the campaign to ruin tucker carlson continues it wasn't enough to fire the guy without telling him

00:31:49.480 or his audience why bit by bit we get these ridiculous leaks it's my opinion they're very

00:31:54.840 clearly from fox to places like media matters this far left smear machine whose mission it is to ruin

00:32:00.600 fox news and now other conservative outlets uh the latest was probably the funniest yet this is what

00:32:06.740 they think is going to make tucker's audience question mark turn on him uh watch this one

00:32:11.580 can i ask you a question we don't have to answer it's personal i'm not speaking of you but more in

00:32:16.300 general of ladies when they go to the ladies room and powder their noses is there actually nose 1.00

00:32:20.240 pottering going on sometimes oh i like the sound of that most of the time it's lips to it do pillow

00:32:30.080 fights ever break out you don't have to not in not in the back okay that'd be more a dorm activity

00:32:35.540 okay i'm sorry so you are such a good sport such a good person thank you

00:32:44.900 i know you do but you do not deserve that and i mean it with great affection i got you man

00:32:52.020 which way do you want to go yes ma'am sorry let me tune in

00:32:57.300 and there you see his true misogyny come out against that makeup artist

00:33:06.400 yeah i was i was i was done with tucker after he described a woman as allegedly yummy but the fact

00:33:15.580 that he wants to know that when you go to powder your nose whether there's nose powdering going on

00:33:19.980 that's that's just the end of it i can well see why rupert murdoch who is renowned around the planet

00:33:27.700 as a gentleman of probity and character and discretion uh saying we can't have this guy around us uh

00:33:37.300 any longer uh this is just disgraceful correct um now that my audience is calling this is calling fox

00:33:45.360 news fox wiser because of their betrayal and the fallout in the numbers after the betrayal

00:33:51.680 it continued on wednesday night where uh fox went down from the 7 p.m in the demo this is the number

00:34:00.660 they really care about down to um from the 7 to the 8 from 170 to 155 the slide continued last night

00:34:10.580 or wednesday night at the 9 p.m to 148 these are terrible terrible numbers for the fox news demo

00:34:15.700 10 p.m 122 uh and in that hour msnbc beat fox in the demo they are now doing the equivalent of what

00:34:25.880 bud light did when they released the clydesdale ad with the country guys on the porch and trying to

00:34:31.620 bring in the blonde conservative to save them at 8 p.m they're going to have kaylee mcenany subhost 1.00

00:34:38.560 the 8 p.m next week i'm telling you this is the clydesdale moment let's go back to what we think

00:34:43.420 they love this is going to save it uh as fox weiser continues to struggle to get itself out of its

00:34:49.320 basement toilet ratings no they're absolutely extraordinary as i mentioned earlier i used to

00:34:55.080 guest host for tucker a lot and i'm just some like dilettante canadian coming down from the hills

00:35:01.540 uh to manhattan but i would have been i wouldn't have i would have been too ashamed to go into the

00:35:07.720 building the next day with these kinds of numbers the one that got me i think was uh i think it was

00:35:14.200 one day last week that you know when you're doing you know this megan you're thinking have we got a

00:35:21.180 strong lineup tonight am i going to beat uh rachel maddow and uh even better if i beat hannity that'll 1.00

00:35:28.300 you know be good i'll have i'll enjoy doing that the one guy we never had to worry about

00:35:33.260 was i can't even remember his name the eight o'clock guy on msnbc chris hayes i'll take your

00:35:40.500 word for it because i never even bothered finding out his name because we always knew that no matter 0.68

00:35:45.440 how bad a night you have you always beat that guy because he's such a total loser and i couldn't get 0.81

00:35:52.460 over the way one night last week whoever was couple nights lost to chris hayes uh and it's and 0.64

00:36:00.420 it's not difficult to figure out uh why you know you're absolutely right that when you get rid of a

00:36:05.500 fellow you want to not just let him go but to damage him sufficiently so he has no value to anyone who

00:36:13.860 might be minded to hire him after you and i've been through that on a much smaller scale than tucker

00:36:20.820 but every aspect of that what's going on with tucker is familiar to me for example this woman who

00:36:27.780 supposedly worked on the show and has uh admitted that she never actually met tucker but she's being

00:36:34.260 interviewed by people as the person who will lift the lid on the real tucker carlson i had that uh some

00:36:40.880 guy uh he uh who again i'd never met i'd never emailed with him i'd never texted with with him i had no he

00:36:49.140 had i'd no connection with him and suddenly he's giving interviews lifting the lid on the real mark

00:36:55.940 stein uh and this is just like a standard operating procedure tucker by the way tucker's uh done his

00:37:04.100 show from the mark stein studio right here so there are guys in the room right now there's cameraman makeup

00:37:10.580 lady who've actually had far more contact with tucker carlson and these people say oh i'm i uh the

00:37:18.500 real tucker carlson it isn't pretty i'm going to give you the inside scoop by which they mean that while

00:37:24.180 he's sitting here between breaks we keep the tape running and then leak it to media matters and the

00:37:29.860 new york times it's not one of these is even remotely offensive so here's what's happened now i mean

00:37:37.220 i've been on the air my audience will vouch for me for almost 10 days now calling out who i believe

00:37:42.260 is doing all of this and that's the head of comms at fox news irena briganti this is her bread and

00:37:48.020 butter business she's done it to many of us in the past if i'm wrong irena go ahead why don't you state 1.00

00:37:53.540 it on the record come on and we'll debate it right if i'm sorry let me let's let me see your phone records

00:37:58.500 let's talk about it under oath i would love nothing more um now because they're getting more heat for what 0.71

00:38:04.820 they're clearly trying to do to tucker they write this ridiculous letter through their lawyers wilson

00:38:09.940 soncini to media matters angelo carusone and they write as follows we write on behalf of fox corporation

00:38:17.460 this is the lawyers to clarify any misunderstandings media matters may have regarding previously unaired

00:38:23.940 footage that media matters has published in a series of articles headline fox leaks the unaired

00:38:29.380 footage is fox's confidential intellectual property fox did not consent to its distribution or

00:38:35.860 publication by the way in the original draft according to angelo the first draft of this that

00:38:40.740 he received from the lawyers read fox did consent to its distribution or publication then an hour later

00:38:48.020 they had to correct their freudian slip and put back in the word not and fox does not consent to its

00:38:54.420 further distribution or publication this proprietary material was given to you without fox's

00:38:59.380 authorization who is fox may i ask lawyers at wilson soncini because i have a very good idea that your

00:39:05.380 executive vice president in communications 100 consented by sending it over the transom to the

00:39:11.380 good people at the new york times and then later the media matters people yeah because this is again

00:39:17.220 standard operating procedure as as you know there's a one-hour show but in the course of that show

00:39:23.700 there's five breaks uh in which the host is just sitting there uh and he has a bit of his makeup

00:39:30.660 retouched or he texts his producer with everything the only source of all this material is from fox news

00:39:38.820 and you have as you say in irena briganti a figure who is notorious uh for just combing through all that

00:39:47.380 fox intellectual property as they put it until she can find the five or six things

00:39:53.380 that are damaging now in this case they aren't in the least bit damaging this they're uh they

00:39:58.660 make tucker seem rather endearing he's like joshing with his makeup artiste uh uh about nose powdering or

00:40:06.500 whatever if that's the best they could do this is somebody did this to me in a court case a couple of

00:40:11.540 years ago and they released all these things you say during the breaks and while you're waiting to start and

00:40:17.220 everything and it was one of the lamest things i ever you know you know i've ever seen because i

00:40:22.660 don't do a lot of the tucker's very garrulous and he's he's talking and he's texting not he's texting

00:40:29.300 24 hours a day uh the one for me was totally lame i didn't actually do any bleeping words as you

00:40:36.260 occasionally uh do megan the closest i got was i went i was so annoyed i went

00:40:42.580 without actually reaching the vowel sound and that's all they had and it was entered as a piece

00:40:51.780 of evidence in a court case against me we thought it was so lame that we actually put it up at my

00:40:57.060 website it's still it's still up there and i thought that was the lamest you know behind the

00:41:02.820 scenes thing you could ever come up with because the gold standard as you know is that bill o'reilly 0.94

00:41:07.380 moment oh amazing yeah but we'll do it live yeah that's fantastic we all wish we could live up to

00:41:16.100 that and i thought this was so totally lame we posted it at the website i've never seen anything lamer

00:41:22.660 until these bits of tucker uh you know talking about finding a lady yummy and wondering about nose

00:41:30.820 powdering if that's the best they've got he was in oxford uh last night uh doing some

00:41:38.100 charity event or something and the the interesting question that the problem that you know uh rupert

00:41:45.780 uh murdoch has is that they've given no explanation as to why they dumped tucker carlson they didn't dump

00:41:53.540 him for lousy ratings because his ratings were better than anybody else uh they so they they have

00:42:00.740 not yet they're they're like uh they're in a worse position than trans house or bush or whatever 0.97

00:42:07.540 they're called in that they haven't actually come up with any credible explanation as to why they took

00:42:13.780 away the audience's favorite host and kaylee mcenany and whoever else they get uh have got an impossible

00:42:21.860 situation until they actually come up with a rationale for what they did mm-hmm i mean i mentioned this

00:42:27.700 yesterday but what are the odds that this irena briganti who i have it on very good authority from

00:42:31.860 fox sources taped me when i no longer worked at the company when i went to give an interview to tucker

00:42:37.380 a couple years after i left fox and it was shortly after my departure from nbc she taped me i mean trust

00:42:43.540 me i've got sources in that building um that she tried to get the tech guys to break down the protocols

00:42:49.700 that the tucker carlson team had put in place to make sure that no one could tape their guests and the

00:42:54.580 feed that was going from washington up to new york and she actively worked to tear them down so she

00:43:00.100 could tape me in the control room and the tech guys blew the whistle on her now what are the odds she

00:43:04.500 would go through all that effort to tape me who yes she can't stand but she hates tucker just as much 0.98

00:43:08.740 if not more but she never taped tucker once she realized he wanted her fired which he definitely did

00:43:15.380 once she realized that there was a chance of getting him like after the dominion case there's zero chance

00:43:21.140 right but now it's like so let's see if fox news actually sues media matters that'll be a fun one

00:43:24.980 to watch let's see if they actually i would love it i mean this this thing that they've done this

00:43:31.780 faco letter they've said you know basically uh my left hand strenuously objects to you guys running

00:43:40.500 all the stuff my right hand is leaking which is basically what that letter boils uh that there's only

00:43:46.740 one source for all these texts for all these uh in between uh break time uh conversations and all

00:43:54.980 the the rest and that is fox and it's so that's can i just say that's exactly right mark because

00:44:00.260 just to amplify that point because let's let's take a look at what they're leaking texts that have been

00:44:05.620 redacted from the dominion filings in that litigation who would have access to that dominion or

00:44:10.820 fox or the court it's not the court leaking that it's not dominion with its 800 million dollars

00:44:14.900 they have no reason to do anything to jeopardize that money who's the third person that has it it's

00:44:19.140 fox news and then we have the leaks of tucker on tape during the commercial breaks and during

00:44:23.380 the lead up to his show and the lead out to his show now who would have that is that dominion too

00:44:27.380 do they have those they turned over little jibes with tucker carlson joking with pierce morgan and

00:44:31.860 joking with his no that's fox that clearly is from fox so those are the two sources of leaks when

00:44:37.300 you look at exactly what's come out it's 100 fox news it's obvious plain as the nose on your face

00:44:42.500 yeah and and i will say something else too because people um forget that uh uh tucker's executive

00:44:49.300 producer was also uh justin wells his number two alexander i know him very well i know most of those

00:44:57.700 producers i've worked with those producers they're very much on team tucker the idea that there'd be

00:45:04.260 some uh you know that alexander or justin wells would be leaking this stuff never uh no it's what

00:45:12.100 is happening is that they're he's he's sitting in his studio in maine or you know as i said uh

00:45:18.100 sitting in this room and it's being fed back to new york and someone at the highest levels

00:45:24.100 like madame briganti is recording this stuff and has been doing it for years just on the off chance

00:45:31.940 that one day it will prove useful and what it tells you as well is that none of these the content of

00:45:38.100 these things oh he's he's he's being outrageously misogynist by talking about powdering your nose

00:45:44.580 oh he's making a reference to january the 6th oh he's making a reference to the dominion case what

00:45:51.060 it tells you is that this is these are none of the reasons why tucker is out at fox and it's

00:45:58.420 something entirely different because if it was dominion if it was january the 6th if it uh they then

00:46:05.060 fox would not be leaking uh this stuff but it's pathetic again i i was disparaging the american 0.66

00:46:11.780 media i can't get over these hack journalists congratulating that new york times guy oh great 0.66

00:46:17.700 reporting he's not reporting anything he's being fed this stuff yes continuously uh down some pipeline

00:46:26.100 from uh madame briganti straight into his email inbox and is just having a grand old time with it

00:46:33.700 exactly right have some discretion about how you're being used by an angry pr person uh in a

00:46:40.980 battle she couldn't win before and now is determined to win now that he's gone um i'll say this this is

00:46:47.700 why fox can never win a lawsuit with tucker and is going to do what he wants ultimately in the in the

00:46:54.500 resolution of this because they cannot afford a litigation in which he gets his lawyer cross-examining

00:46:59.700 irena briganti in which we'll get all of her emails all of her cell phone records all of her

00:47:04.980 desktop records of who she called and when oh yes we will see them all and we'll know exactly what

00:47:09.860 she was up to and we'll get the ones of suzanne scott and we'll get the general counsel we'll get them

00:47:13.940 all because if this has been a company-wide effort to ruin him post termination they will pay trust me

00:47:19.140 they will be sued for doing this they will pay and that is why i firmly believe tucker should breach

00:47:24.100 he should breach he should give up whatever the 30 million bucks that is still amen he will make it

00:47:28.340 up very easily reached it in the private market that's exactly right he'll have an argument of

00:47:32.660 prior material breach and even if he doesn't he'll make more money if he goes private he got a hundred

00:47:36.820 million dollar offer on this show the other day he should breach he should walk out of there and

00:47:40.820 should not let them muzzle him for the entire election season which is what they're trying to do

00:47:45.620 as they rebuild their audience i've got to ask you about the breaking news that we just got across

00:47:53.540 the transom thank god rochelle walensky is stepping down as the head of the cdc praise jesus she's going

00:48:02.980 as of june the white house putting out a nice statement about her oh she saved lives with her

00:48:07.620 steadfast and unwavering focus on the health of every american as director of the cdc she did all sorts

00:48:12.500 of great things you can fill in the rank the rest of the blanks um there probably wasn't anyone more

00:48:17.540 hysterical about covet than rochelle walensky she hasn't acknowledged any of her mistakes even as

00:48:24.420 fauci comes out and admits masks maybe 10 around the edges really they only work if it's the n95 or

00:48:30.340 kn95 perfectly fitted notwithstanding what he and the cdc did to our kids did to us for two plus years

00:48:37.060 she hasn't even gone that far she's still pretending she has a perfect track record and now she just

00:48:42.020 quietly going to ride off into the sunset well it's interesting to me because we've had ruled by

00:48:48.100 experts for the last three years which is what the left claims to want you know if you talk about

00:48:54.340 climate change they say well wait a minute are you are you a climatologist uh no actually i'm a tap

00:49:00.020 dancer well then you have no right to weigh in uh i don't think these lockdowns are a good idea well

00:49:05.060 wait a minute are you a virologist uh no i'm a dog sledder well then you have no right to weigh in

00:49:10.020 we've had ruled by experts for three years and everything is as bad as it can get the cdc has

00:49:18.420 basically destroyed its brand during that time it used to be that you know people thought the who in

00:49:26.100 geneva was a bit iffy but the cdc had quite a good reputation they basically they've basically done a

00:49:32.100 bud light on their brand these last three years and nobody i mean goodbye rochelle walensky and

00:49:40.340 good riddance but actually i don't think anybody who's been associated with the last three years

00:49:44.820 should be in any public position whatsoever because it's it's as it's been as big a catastrophe

00:49:52.820 for sound government as you could imagine here is just a reminder of her steady leadership as praised

00:50:00.340 by the white house today who could forget this moment when i first started at cdc about two

00:50:06.260 months ago i made a promise to you i would tell you the truth even if it was not the news we wanted

00:50:11.460 to hear now is one of those times when i have to share the truth and i have to hope and trust you

00:50:17.540 will listen i'm going to pause here i'm going to lose the script and i'm going to reflect on the

00:50:23.060 recurring feeling i have of impending doom we have so much to look forward to so much promise and

00:50:30.100 potential of where we are and so much reason for hope but right now i'm scared oh god

00:50:39.060 cheers no that that is basically i mean it's not really funny because half the population uh takes it

00:50:47.380 seriously and they're still going around with the tatty old masks hanging off their nose thinking

00:50:53.780 they're going to die if some little particle manages to penetrate their tatty old uh mask but that's

00:51:01.460 this is actually you know i'm going to go off the script now we're all doomed head for the hills

00:51:08.340 i mean no one should ever take her seriously ever again i mean even the

00:51:17.700 she actually she and irena briganti who you were talking about earlier should should team up because

00:51:23.700 it's the same thing it's totally fake oh i'm going to go off the script now but fortunately the bit of

00:51:29.780 script i'm going off is has been pre-loaded in my pomter so we are all uh doomed i just it's so

00:51:41.700 true oh my god i won't miss her at all sadly we're about to get somebody just like her there's no way

00:51:46.100 they're going to be meaningful change over there but we'll not miss rochelle even a little before we

00:51:52.020 turn to the uk can i ask you about now we've had tucker lose his job don lemon got fired same day

00:51:58.740 um and i have been saying the next to go has got to be joy reed i mean she's just she's in the don 0.62

00:52:05.060 lemon camp of just being in a hysteric she's also like rochelle walensky and hysteric only she's a 1.00

00:52:10.340 thousand times worse than rochelle walensky at least rochelle walensky is like a medical doctor who 1.00

00:52:14.260 you know you could respect on paper even though she spewed nonsense and ruined our lives for two 1.00

00:52:17.780 years wait i'm talking myself out of it but joy reed is on tv every night everyone is racist and 0.99

00:52:25.060 literally everyone in the republican party is evil and racist and i gotta tell you mark i think 0.60

00:52:30.500 even at msnbc which is still owned by nbc news if she said this on her nightly show i've got to believe 0.99

00:52:38.980 they'd have to do something about her i do i'd like i know she says crazy racist stuff every night 1.00

00:52:44.180 but this she went on the most unhinged rant over on tiktok we pulled a little bit so you could get 1.00

00:52:50.500 just a sampling would you watch this the republican party at this stage in its development is at war

00:53:02.420 with the rest of us they're coming for your birth control they're coming for gay marriage they're 1.00

00:53:07.460 coming for education one thing that they will never do is protect a single child from getting slaughtered 0.82

00:53:14.820 in school because their only true worship is guns they're coming for black power you think they're 0.99

00:53:22.980 going to stop by just evicting troublemaking black lawmakers in one state anyone who displeases them 0.99

00:53:31.780 is on the menu they want to turn every state into their white christian nationalist hell when they lose 0.97

00:53:39.300 enough elections they will moderate and then we will have two normal political parties again we need

00:53:45.460 to vote them all out it's defcon one y'all take action and stay woke oh my god care to respond i

00:54:00.900 i mentioned that guy at eight o'clock who used to be opposite tucker on msnbc i i i said uh you know you

00:54:07.780 knew whatever even if you did a totally crap worthless show you'd still beat that guy the

00:54:14.340 other the other one you'd always beat was joy reed and as i say i say this just as like as a 0.93

00:54:20.420 dilettante canadian who comes down from the hills couple of days a month but the um the the ability

00:54:27.140 of people to sustain a high-level media career even when there is no obvious audience for you

00:54:33.860 is astonishing to me and joy reed is an exemplar of that and the uh and of the dishonesty and bad

00:54:42.500 faith of uh the media discourse in this country because on the one hand you have people uh making

00:54:48.980 a huge oh can you believe that uh tucker called a person of the opposite sex yummy and then on the

00:54:56.180 other hand we have the official explanation for joy reed's uh notoriously homophobic twitter feed from 1.00

00:55:04.660 whatever it is five ten years ago that that was all just somebody hacked into her account now she's

00:55:11.060 mourning that the uh republican party is going to come after gay marriage well the joy reed of five 0.85

00:55:17.460 ten whatever it was years ago would be celebrating yeah so i regard her as an entirely dishonest uh figure

00:55:27.380 and uh and as i said one of those slightly mystifying ones in in that uh she could just sort of cruise on 0.98

00:55:35.540 for year in year out with these kind of deathbed numbers and it doesn't and it never seems to impact

00:55:42.820 her career at all it's it's extraordinary to me that how does any republican go on on nbc news when

00:55:49.460 this woman is in the same building calling them names like this saying that that all republicans want 0.98

00:55:55.860 to turn every state into their white christian nationalist hell it's defcon one she goes on to say we're we 0.99

00:56:04.740 damn near gilead wake up wake up take action and stay woke okay well charles krauthammer the late charles

00:56:14.100 krauthammer used to have a very good line about fox news he he said oh rupert murdoch uh stumbled on this 0.98

00:56:23.620 niche demographic that was a little underserved uh half the country and that's actually who uh

00:56:32.340 uh joy read is going up again so and what is extraordinary to me is it it means you're so

00:56:39.620 dislocated from the you know i think every person on the right uh understands uh what it's like to

00:56:48.020 to live in a left-wing culture because it's all around you it's in the movies it's in the pop songs

00:56:53.460 it's at the mainline churches uh the default setting of uh american society is to the left whereas if you're

00:57:01.460 on the left you never really are aware uh except in these cartoon terms i mean it used i used to

00:57:08.660 get these people who would complain um that they took their car in to be serviced and uh while the

00:57:15.620 grease monkey was working on it he retuned the radio from npr to rush so they the cars finished being

00:57:22.660 worked on they get back in the car they drive out onto the highway and the radio comes on and it's rush

00:57:28.740 blaring away that's the only moment when people like joy read are forced uh to to just intersect with

00:57:38.820 the half of the population that does not think like them and you would have to be crazy to demonize

00:57:47.460 you know 150 million americans the way she does there well that's well said and true uh i think you've

00:57:56.100 made a good point um okay we got to talk about the coronation happens tomorrow uh where king

00:58:01.300 charles is officially i get i mean is he not officially king right now i'm not exactly sure

00:58:06.900 what the coronation does no he became officially king uh four seconds after his mother died at

00:58:15.220 balmoral and if you remember that first announcement from the palace said her majesty the queen died at

00:58:22.980 whatever it was 3 18 p.m uh the king will leave balmoral and return to buckingham palace uh tomorrow

00:58:32.580 morning so he becomes the king you know that's the old line uh the king is dead long with the king that's

00:58:38.500 the old line and this is just really a thousand year old anointing ceremony supposedly that emphasizes the

00:58:48.900 the compact between the king and uh god the king of kings as they used to say i don't know whether they

00:58:55.460 use that phrase anymore um but that's that's what the the the ceremony is meant to represent now he's

00:59:03.620 sort of undermined that a bit by filling the congregation with all these uh tv stars and the

00:59:09.940 like which doesn't aid contemplation of the almighty as it were who what tv stars does he have there what

00:59:16.980 do you mean well they would like the i think the host of uh strictly come dancing uh are going to be

00:59:24.740 there uh which is the british original of dancing with the stars uh so they're going to have i think

00:59:30.740 the judges from strictly are going to be there there's the and i think anton deck whom you may well have

00:59:36.820 seen in one of the funniest scenes in love actually so okay uh what about what about this mark as i read

00:59:44.420 you know he's kind of instead of using the traditional coronation oil which is substances

00:59:51.060 from the intestines of sperm whales or secretions from the glands of small mammals like civets uh the

00:59:57.860 bbc reports that instead he will be using a mixture of olive oil rose jasmine cinnamon orange blossom and

01:00:03.140 sesame out of his environmental sensitivities he will also be um making sure to represent different

01:00:11.060 faiths at the ceremony um to reflect the ethnic diversity of modern britain he will be banning 0.88

01:00:18.740 the is it koanur diamond uh that will not make an appearance at the coronation it's one of the

01:00:26.500 biggest and most beautiful glittering british crown jewels but there's been a whole kerfuffle over its

01:00:32.420 providence i mean basically i looked into this at one point everyone stole it from everyone everyone

01:00:36.180 stole it from everyone good luck finding somebody who doesn't who has pure hands behind that diamond

01:00:41.060 no every change he's made since 1950 the 1953 coronation basically is for the worst as you said

01:00:49.460 he's not using traditional holy oil he's using basically the salad dressing from a pretentious dc restaurant

01:00:58.020 uh that's what he's going to be anointed with good good good luck with good luck with that um it's all

01:01:04.900 it's all it's all you know harry and megan when they're doing their at war with uh the palace

01:01:12.580 stuff obscures the reality that in fact they're all on the same page the king the heir and the spare all

01:01:21.300 agree on this super woke rubbish so we're going to have a kind of a wokey woke coronation

01:01:28.180 that i i i'm i'm actually astonished it's whatever it is uh now uh six seven months since the queen 0.82

01:01:34.820 died and i'm astonished at how things have gone south quite so quickly and and i'm uh i'm i'm also

01:01:43.860 kind of slightly amazed at the way uh the open contempt for him uh has actually i thought they'd wait until

01:01:53.780 the coronation but in in in fact uh he's he's played it so badly that i i think he's put a real

01:02:01.780 question mark over the monarchy around the world and it's not it's and saturday isn't going to do

01:02:09.140 anything for him on that how how so how has he played it badly well i think as i said because he's

01:02:15.780 well for a start he thinks he's a great thinker the queen in my you know relatively modest experience

01:02:22.580 with her was actually an informed and intelligent woman but she was intelligent enough this is her 0.99

01:02:28.860 central insight that the queen doesn't have to do she just has to be and the problem with this guy

01:02:38.900 is he thinks he's one of the world's great thinkers on climate change and slavery and all kinds of other

01:02:46.020 things and he's we and at the same time he's actually weak about what a king is meant i mean there've 0.51

01:02:51.540 been some really pathetic things he was caught on mic with his australian prime minister you know 0.61

01:02:58.100 murmuring oh i'm not sure anyone really wants me down there uh his uh canadian governor general the 0.89

01:03:05.900 the the king's viceroy in in canada was reduced to pleading on tv you know oh won't you give this

01:03:14.100 new king just give him a bit of a chance he's not as bad as it seems this is the this is actually

01:03:19.980 a worse start to a new reign even than uh his grandfather who took over after uh the duke of

01:03:27.900 windsor's abdication so i'm worried it's all just gonna head south very quickly hmm well at least we

01:03:35.620 won't have to look at megan markle uh sitting there at the coronation acting like she's team windsor 0.98

01:03:42.340 she's gonna stay at home harry's jetting in for about two minutes and returning back to his home

01:03:49.220 in montecito and i for one am delighted that we have been spared that you oh yeah i i think this

01:03:56.160 was just a disaster for the royal family but but the fact uh that the king again is being weak because

01:04:04.600 he's they're sort of half in half out and i think at a certain point you just have to say look

01:04:11.040 you know if we're gonna if we're gonna have any communication it's going to be in the back channels 0.99

01:04:16.000 but this stuff you're going around saying to oprah and in your stupid book and all the rest of it 0.99

01:04:21.920 you're on the outs as far as the royal house of the uk canada australia new zealand blah blah blah all 0.99

01:04:31.180 the way to papua new guinea and the solomon islands as far as that's concerned you're out

01:04:36.500 and you're staying out so don't even bother doing any of this will i get invited to the coronation

01:04:43.180 because you're not going to be invited to anything from now on and he should take a lesson that he

01:04:48.900 should take a lesson from megan markle and the way she treats her family that's how king charles 0.97

01:04:53.840 should be treating these two they've done far more to deserve it than megan's dad has i'll tell you that

01:04:58.560 all right mark always a pleasure great to see you come back soon no always always a pleasure to see

01:05:04.540 you too megan and you're the only one who uh on that tucker situation you're you're the only media

01:05:10.580 outlet that actually says anything worth listening to on this so it's been great form the last couple

01:05:16.760 of weeks thanks a lot very much thank you and we're going to be right back to talk a bit more

01:05:21.320 about the coronation the banishment of ms markle plus dylan mulvaney with a new video for you stand

01:05:29.280 by the coronation is tomorrow harry's heading there megan's not here to talk about it all uh happy to

01:05:41.660 have two brits back with us two of our favorite brits sophie corcoran and leilani dowding great to 1.00

01:05:46.800 see you again ladies hi good to be here all right so i i was just saying with mark stein i'm glad she's

01:05:52.640 not going i really i who wants to sit and look at her try to pretend like she's there in any way

01:05:58.200 supportive of the royal family she hates them despite the fact that they made her a mega star

01:06:02.300 they gave her all this opportunity to earn tons of millions and millions of dollars all roots back to 0.98

01:06:07.820 them and gave her a royal wedding and the diana's jewels and the queen all of it she hates them so why 0.94

01:06:14.900 would we have to look at her sophie sitting there pretending otherwise it was annoying enough at the 0.98

01:06:20.180 queen's funeral well no and it is it's quite good i give reggie she's finally figured out that we don't 0.64

01:06:24.500 want her back in britain she will never be welcome back in britain you can't come here trash everything

01:06:30.500 our royal family everything we are as a country when we have given you so much and expect to be

01:06:36.220 welcomed back with open arms and she's finally realized that a good old mr green's jetting it over 0.92

01:06:41.000 as usual can't wait for him to probably lecture us on climate change when he's got a private jet over here 0.86

01:06:44.760 for one day as the usual so he's off doing his normal hypocritical whining nonsense so spare us

01:06:51.840 that but at least it's only 24 hours but i would rather it be none yeah spare us exactly right he 0.53

01:06:56.980 was just at the un lecturing us all about how we needed to be greener you got to give up your suv

01:07:01.120 and turn down your heater or your ac but he can literally take a private jet over there for like a

01:07:06.500 four hour stint then turn right back home and go home to his huge mansion in montecito which is not

01:07:11.200 very green um what about him leilani because he was part of the same netflix documentary and fully

01:07:17.960 on board with calling half of the british people racists because they voted for brexit so now he's

01:07:24.840 going to come in front of that same group and i pray that they break decorum and boo him like i will

01:07:31.160 be doing from my home and if i turn it on i i feel a little bit the same as mark about it all actually

01:07:38.400 but if i turn it on i will be booing him too because it is it's always hypocritical um you know

01:07:43.960 he'll come over he'll lecture us he'll fly back on his private jet jet over here um and yeah he was 0.73

01:07:51.260 there with with megan calling us all racist because you know and then obviously then he backtracked and

01:07:57.000 blamed it on the media but that was you know years later he didn't backtrack on he didn't say no

01:08:02.440 actually let's put a stop to this now at the time when the media reported it we knew what megan was

01:08:08.140 trying to say he didn't speak up at the time um and then obviously because of the backlash he's

01:08:13.940 received and how the british people have felt about it he then you know goes back a couple of years

01:08:19.460 later and he thinks it's all going to be fine when he comes over here so no i will be booing i'm

01:08:24.760 already booing now actually yeah so she knew she'd get booed i mean her approval ratings are a minus 33

01:08:30.840 she swung to minus 33 uh when you count up the approvals and the disapprovals so she knew she'd

01:08:36.400 get booed that's almost certainly why she's not coming though there was some reporting out of great

01:08:41.020 britain that princess kate said she's not coming trust me she may not come so we don't know what the

01:08:46.660 truth is but omid scoby who is basically the stenographer for this pair comes out i know sophie's

01:08:52.980 already recoiling he comes out with a report um saying megan decided not to attend the coronation

01:09:01.120 she is aware of just how much the spotlight goes on her when she sets even a foot near the story

01:09:09.160 so that sophie is why she's chosen not to attend so as out of deference you see to king charles's

01:09:15.360 moment listen scooby-doo he traps a load of rubbish so i don't even know why we call him a royal

01:09:21.120 commentator because he doesn't know anything he's basically just their mouth face but let's be quite

01:09:27.100 honest i don't care about harry and megan the coronation is not about harry and megan it's

01:09:31.880 about king charles and it's about the british people so what i want really is to just not hear

01:09:36.400 about them at all i don't want the press to be writing a load of boring articles about them and

01:09:40.500 making everything about them as they tried to do when the queen died this is not about harry and megan

01:09:45.700 they're irrelevant to us most of us don't even consider them as part of our royal family we don't

01:09:50.460 like them this is about the british people and having a great joyous celebration and loving britain

01:09:55.440 and the thing i love about the coronation is finally for one time it's not shameful to be patriotic i feel

01:10:02.700 that britain is the only country in the world where it's you are looked down upon if you like where you

01:10:09.000 are from and that you should be embarrassed if you celebrate the country that you were born in so

01:10:13.140 i love the fact that you know the streets are lined with union jacks but it does frustrate me that why 0.99

01:10:17.840 are we only doing this in the coronation why can't we do it 24 7 like everybody else but the coronation 0.96

01:10:22.880 does bring about some really stupid debates namely from american woke professors um about the whole 0.96

01:10:30.060 reparations debacle we have the consistent debate of you know should the royal family apologize for 0.99

01:10:34.740 every single you know minor or major royal event there is and the answer is no they shouldn't because

01:10:40.760 the royal family you know was the current is was not responsible for any of those behaviors and

01:10:46.380 our royal family if you pick up a history book please you would understand that they oversaw the 0.87

01:10:51.320 majority of decolonization and we have so many stupid discussions about reparations but the fact of 0.96

01:10:56.280 the matter is why on earth would the british taxpayer who none of us alive here own slaves give our 0.96

01:11:04.120 taxpayer dollars to people who never were slaves it doesn't make any sense the people who want the

01:11:09.560 reparations were not in any way victims of slavery you know no one alive now was in that period and

01:11:16.900 no one alive here today own slaves so it's just nonsense why on earth are we apologizing for the

01:11:23.080 city of san francisco is over here about to do the same thing they're approving measures to pay

01:11:27.620 reparations to people who not only are not descended from slaves but might not even be black you just have 0.99

01:11:33.460 to declare you have to have to have been saying you're black identifying as black for 10 years okay

01:11:38.720 okay we'll see how that works out uh but can i just ask you leilani because the absurdity of this

01:11:44.020 statement she is aware of just how much the spotlight goes on her when she sets even a foot near the story

01:11:49.500 that's why she's not going that's such a lie megan markle's never seen a camera she doesn't want to be

01:11:55.280 in front of that is this is of all the reasons that she is not attending the coronation this is nowhere

01:12:00.660 near the list she's not going because she knows she's going to get booed yeah i think i agree with

01:12:06.460 you 100 there's no way it's because she doesn't want to be in the spotlight she always wants to be

01:12:11.300 in the spotlight that is everything about her that's why she did um the documentary on netflix that's why

01:12:17.400 she spoke to oprah because that's all she's ever wanted um and it's all she wants now but she knows

01:12:23.020 that when she steps foot in england people do not want her here they do not like her they um they know

01:12:29.400 that they that she's called them racist so many times she's blamed half the country for being 0.92

01:12:34.720 racist for wanting brexit i mean they're supposed to be royals they should kill me out of political

01:12:40.140 statements like that so yeah she is definitely staying out of the country because she knows how 1.00

01:12:46.300 we feel about her but she's trying to get attention here she um signed with wme william morris uh endeavor

01:12:52.980 and represented by ari emmanuel who's this big hollywood power agent um she calls herself a global 0.93

01:12:58.880 icon in the press release that they put out she okay it doesn't really work when you have your

01:13:03.700 agent say it about you like that like it makes you look bad megan i mean you're just doing it all

01:13:07.880 wrong as usual um she revealed this new look in this like picture of her that came out of their 0.74

01:13:15.520 montecito mansion i don't know what she's done but she's done something i don't just like something's

01:13:19.440 going on with the jawline could be a zempick i don't know i'm not sure what it is but i'm just saying

01:13:23.860 like something's going on there ladies you know you know it i know it and the our countrymen know

01:13:29.000 it and then the third thing was she appeared at i think a lakers game with harry on what was supposed

01:13:35.080 to be the kiss cam and it's sort of an interesting moment i'll show it to you get your reaction

01:13:38.580 camera finds them he kind of goes to kiss her she turns away like she's not going to get take the kiss 0.99

01:13:48.780 and then he looks like he's sort of having a holy shit moment like oh my god what are they 0.72

01:13:54.180 going to write about me i went to kiss her and she turned away i don't know what's happening there 0.92

01:13:58.060 but she's definitely trying to get her name in the headlines in advance of you know king charles's

01:14:03.520 big day am i wrong i mean when is she not trying to get her name in the headlines for one but it just

01:14:08.620 makes me laugh this woman could straighten her hair and all of the megan cult all of a sudden 1.00

01:14:13.000 thinks she's the modern reincarnation of jesus because she's just right in her but i don't really

01:14:18.260 understand that part but she's always trying to get her head you know her name in the headlines 0.99

01:14:22.500 um i don't think the relationship between megan harry is good let's be honest i don't think

01:14:27.080 anybody can pretend that it was good you know she wasn't really present when spare was coming out so

01:14:32.480 to be honest i i wouldn't be surprised if that relationship crumbled pretty soon and i think it's

01:14:38.160 good that you know she's staying back home to uh create more headlines for herself there but she also 0.96

01:14:43.180 knows that her staying home will create headlines here yeah meanwhile we're not the only ones who

01:14:48.920 are feeling this way leilani about prince harry there are protests over there um royalists people

01:14:54.180 who are in support of the royal family but not him actually camping out uh outside for the coronation

01:14:59.420 we have just a bit of a bit of this from times radio watch i don't think they like megan no we don't

01:15:07.260 no you don't like megan no why is that it's not because we're racist because we're not racist i hate

01:15:14.740 people saying that to us oh you don't like her because you're racist no we're not bloody racist we

01:15:20.880 don't like her attitude harry were to be in the olden days it's a they would tell me it's a trigger

01:15:28.440 but what do you mean you can't you can't betray your own people you can't betray your family

01:15:33.840 just a little sampling of how some of the british people are feeling but the polls reflect it's not

01:15:39.140 just those ladies like the the public in the uk even more so than in america has turned on both of 0.87

01:15:44.020 them yeah absolutely i mean i'm not even a royalist but i feel the same way about take them as a family

01:15:50.540 when you betray your family like that when you uh just write a book about them take you know the last

01:15:57.540 words of your grandma and and what she's saying on the deathbed and just you know put them out there

01:16:02.640 for everybody to read and share all those private moments of course it's going to turn so many people

01:16:08.560 off and it's like me you know people think i'm you know i really despise harry and megan i cannot

01:16:13.420 stand them it doesn't mean i necessarily am a royalist and i love them but i see it what it is i see what

01:16:19.340 they do as a family and that's what's important to me how do you treat your family and also how do you

01:16:24.920 treat the general public are you going to call them racist climate change deniers whilst you know

01:16:30.680 traveling on a private jet so that's how it is for me i just see megan and harry as two people

01:16:35.720 that completely and utterly betrayed their family in search of limelight and fame and just making

01:16:41.380 absolutely as much money as they can um well megan harry didn't really need to do that but you know

01:16:47.900 megan and and and and so forth yeah when megan and harry dis disassociated from the royal family did

01:16:54.740 need dough um and it's not just his family her her family too the dad had a stroke the dad does not

01:17:01.560 appear to be in great shape her dad thomas markle he gave an interview and um it's to australia's

01:17:07.820 seven news it's him it's his son thomas jr and the estranged daughter's samantha markle who

01:17:14.420 the definitely bad blood between her and megan but here's a bit of that exchange it's sought seven

01:17:20.400 so we assume that because of the international press coverage megan knows you've had a stroke

01:17:28.260 of course she has to know i'm taking it from that that she hasn't called you

01:17:32.600 no no phone call no how long has it been now it's been four years so just radio silence exactly

01:17:41.400 if she doesn't turn up for a stroke if that doesn't move her what would 0.95

01:17:50.280 good question it's dark i mean it's very dark i've said before some of us actually did lose our dads

01:17:59.160 in my case when i was 15 and my dad was 45 and i would give anything to have the opportunity to call

01:18:04.780 him up and spend some time with him her dad is there he's not doing well he's asking for another chance

01:18:11.340 and i'm sorry but this cold-hearted witch in her mansion in montecito won't deign to give him the 0.76

01:18:17.720 time i think it's disgusting yeah me too but to be honest she's got a track record she's betrayed 0.99

01:18:23.660 every single member of her family she's betrayed every single one of her friends she will soon

01:18:28.600 betray prince harry because that's all she ever does but her megan's all about herself she's about 0.98

01:18:34.000 nobody else but herself whether it's friends or family and one thing that always comes out whenever

01:18:39.280 you know omie scoby's talking about megan or she and herself is talking about megan it's all about

01:18:44.220 revealing her truth and it is quite just that it is her truth it is certainly not the truth and that

01:18:50.860 is what you get with megan because her truth is very different to what's actually happening and is

01:18:55.540 very different to the reality but she lives in a completely different world to the rest of us she

01:19:00.520 you know she thinks everybody owes her something she thinks the world revolves around her 1.00

01:19:05.860 and it's just quite frankly ridiculous she's a hypocrite in everything she does she wants privacy 1.00

01:19:10.660 it throws every single member of her family and her friends under the bus she comes here and gives 1.00

01:19:15.080 all of these woke green speeches and then does the exact opposite she just lives in this parallel 1.00

01:19:20.320 universe that she creates in her mind and the rest of us are just sitting there watching it and just 1.00

01:19:25.020 thinking you're a liar you're a hypocrite and you're not even on the same planet that the rest of us are 0.99

01:19:29.680 well she's not going and the other person who's not going is president joe biden so leilani what do we 1.00

01:19:34.980 think of that he sent dr jill dr jill is going with one of the grandchildren not not the one that

01:19:41.880 the biden's refused to acknowledge because he had it with somebody who they consider illegitimate it's

01:19:47.260 terrible what they're doing to that girl but in any event he's going uh she dr jill is going he's not

01:19:52.280 going and trump comes out and says it's very disrespectful of him not to attend he says um

01:19:59.300 though it is hard for him to do it physically of course got that got that dig in but there are

01:20:05.400 there's folks over in great britain too who are who feel snubbed because president biden just took

01:20:10.000 a trip to ireland and prioritized doing that and decided to skip this and it feels sort of like a

01:20:15.900 middle finger yeah i mean it's crazy isn't it if he's gonna blame that he physically can't do it

01:20:21.720 yet he's gone over to ireland it's absolute nonsense i mean personally i'm glad he's not here i'm glad he

01:20:26.840 has no part in i mean they probably couldn't have enough people to change his diapers or something

01:20:31.680 between the ceremony but you know who knows why he's not coming over really but it is a bit of a

01:20:37.340 snub for those people that actually do like him i mean he has nothing really that he could possibly

01:20:43.140 contribute with his uh poor speech and what have you well he's not going uh american presidents in

01:20:50.460 the past have skipped the coronation for a british monarch then president eisenhower skipped the

01:20:55.840 coronation of queen elizabeth the second choosing instead to send a delegation to the event

01:21:00.560 but we're supposed to be bffs so there seems to be a bit of a message in there sophie especially

01:21:05.960 given the fact that he did just go of all places to ireland but he couldn't find it within him you

01:21:10.720 know to go celebrate this moment we're kind of talking about the controversies around it but like

01:21:15.540 this is a very celebratory moment for great britain this is going to be i think a really fun joyous day

01:21:20.620 tomorrow of course we've always really you know prided ourselves the uk with our relationship with

01:21:26.240 the u.s and that's kind of the the relationship that we have with the u.s was actually one of the

01:21:30.500 main motivators of brexit because we felt that we had a better relationship with the u.s and we can

01:21:35.900 have a better partnership with the u.s than we could have done the eu and now obviously he went to

01:21:39.800 this big protocol with brexit is one of the biggest issues is the northern ireland protocol which is

01:21:46.600 obviously where the border sits between northern ireland and the republic of ireland and it brings

01:21:50.320 intentions and he's been lambasting our government and getting involved in those discussions which he

01:21:54.540 has no place to be involved in with the relationship with ireland and let me tell you my father is

01:21:59.220 irish he was born in the republic of ireland and even i don't call myself irish so this man that's

01:22:04.240 like eight one million is irish or whatever he is he's just not irish he's not irish my own father

01:22:10.360 is irish and even i don't claim to be irish but the thing is with mr biden is that if he's not

01:22:15.400 physically well enough to come over to our coronation what makes him think that he is

01:22:19.800 physically well enough to be a president when there is wars breaking out everywhere well that's trump

01:22:25.320 saying he's not well enough to be clear it's not biden and his team it's trump saying oh he can't go

01:22:30.300 because he obviously can't handle it i mean he's not though i mean the guy can't even walk up the

01:22:34.520 stairs sometimes and even dress himself so to be quite honest you know lots of americans judge us

01:22:40.240 in the way that we do of our royal family but i'm going to judge you now because if you re-elect him 0.94

01:22:44.420 as president you have got to be insane well i'm looking forward to the pomp and circumstance

01:22:49.260 because nobody does it better than the brits it's going to be super fun to watch you know like 0.76

01:22:53.260 all the royal guards and the hats and the you know just everything i realize you haven't done it in 70

01:22:58.300 years but i feel like you're going to nail it and it's it happens while we're still kind of asleep

01:23:01.820 i think we're like five in the morning here but when we wake up we'll get to see the replays and

01:23:05.940 it's it's going to be fun so congratulations on what should be a joyous day for you now your your

01:23:11.480 comment about president biden being like basically one percent irish really brings me to some of our

01:23:17.940 news stories i wanted to go over with you and this i always love the stories about what we call the

01:23:22.280 pretendians the pretend indians the pretend native americans here in america and there's another one 0.99

01:23:27.840 my god you can't stop these people they love love love to do this they like to pretend that they're

01:23:33.840 native american and then they always get caught okay the latest is a woman who of course worked at

01:23:38.820 uc berkeley one of our farthest left colleges institutions out in california uh she claims she

01:23:45.640 was native american for her entire life she is as white as the driven snow she is no part native american 0.63

01:23:52.600 but this woman has been using it at every turn apparently she got outed by another person um an 1.00

01:24:03.520 assistant professor at brown university and a cherokee nation citizen who says they used to be

01:24:08.460 friends wrote a letter on her own blog saying this woman's story fell apart in a new york minute just as

01:24:14.940 soon as keen first started looking into it over a year ago but now the pretendian uh again her name is

01:24:21.660 elizabeth hoover this associate professor at berkeley is coming out saying i am sorry that i uncritically

01:24:28.800 lived an identity based on family stories without seeking out a documented connection to these

01:24:35.320 communities and i caused harm now this woman's published books and articles about native american

01:24:41.520 food sovereignty okay and other issues she never had the proper documentation to confirm

01:24:48.620 her claims she said i should have done my due diligence as though she had no reason to believe

01:24:54.420 she wasn't um you know she had some claim to a great great grandma that she just you know didn't 0.99

01:24:59.460 think to question and it took this other professor two minutes to figure out this was all a lie i call bs

01:25:06.360 this woman knew she milked it she saw opportunities to to be a pretendian that's why she did it it's 1.00

01:25:12.920 absolutely pathetic and i love calling these people out thoughts on it leilani well this is the problem 0.99

01:25:19.060 when you have the this like positive discrimination and these stupid diversity and inclusion goals 0.99

01:25:24.100 isn't it that people are going to just try and pretend and you know the same way they do when they're 0.98

01:25:28.860 male trying to pretend they're female i'm surprised you just didn't say oh i identify as american indian

01:25:33.580 and therefore i am so you know this is where we're at maybe in a few years time that will actually be

01:25:39.580 possible but it seems like she just was completely living a lie and she was happy to do it because

01:25:44.360 you know it was financially rewarding to her because she could play along with these diversity

01:25:50.300 inclusion goals rather than just being you know who she was and trying to publish whatever she was

01:25:56.240 writing in that way yes it's and everybody knows when it comes to claiming that you're a native american

01:26:01.820 the checking of it to actually figure out whether you have the bloodline that goes back

01:26:05.660 is important i mean you really are you know we call it stolen honor when you pretend that you're a

01:26:11.220 member of the military and you're not or you're stolen glory when you pretend that you had some amazing

01:26:15.600 war feat that you didn't this is really a stolen ancestry situation and it does matter i guarantee you

01:26:21.540 this woman probably wouldn't have been accepted at uc berkeley which is still a prestigious school 1.00

01:26:25.420 if she hadn't played the native american card so she took the spot from somebody who actually was

01:26:30.600 native american who have been historically oppressed in our country and probably could have really used

01:26:34.560 that spot so shame on her it's disgusting and i love these groups who are now calling these it's

01:26:39.800 always women it's always when it comes to the pretendians they're all women from elizabeth warren 0.80

01:26:43.700 or as we used to call her chief lies a lot on down okay that's you mentioned um pretending that you're a

01:26:50.120 woman when you're actually a man and that brings us to dylan mulvaney dylan has now given an interview

01:26:55.760 to fellow leftist chelsea handler and deb do we have that third thought that we were looking for

01:27:02.200 okay and they got into the discussion of quote quote trans children which is not a thing but the left is

01:27:10.160 making it a thing and here's a little bit of that yeah i think one of the most offensive things to hear

01:27:15.760 is people who are talking about you know trans people saying oh it's trendy it's trendy are we supposed

01:27:23.440 to let children change their sex before they're ready because what if they change their mind back 0.99

01:27:29.000 and i it's such a miseducation and an unknowing like i had a friend say to me oh i know there are

01:27:34.540 eight-year-old kids that are getting transgender surgery without their parents and i'm like that's 0.97

01:27:38.720 simply not true no first of all there is no eight-year-old that could go to the fucking doctor 0.99

01:27:43.060 and become drive himself there it's just so dumb but it's it's insane that that notion of like 0.98

01:27:50.700 trendiness because transness has existed like since the beginning of time and truly like in 0.91

01:27:56.780 certain cultures the two spirits or transness was actually like seen as almost the most holy or the

01:28:03.900 most reverent or the most respected okay so we're not transing children there's no inappropriate surgeries 0.99

01:28:13.220 being done on young people and we're definitely not i guess chemicalizing a temporary confusion when it 0.98

01:28:20.140 comes to gender with our minors bullshit bullshit you don't have to go to the most extreme oh we're 0.97

01:28:26.280 not doing you know double mastectomies on eight-year-olds that no one's claiming that but we are doing it on 0.99

01:28:32.120 very there was a woman who just gave testimony this week in louisiana who has been on this show chloe

01:28:36.440 who talked about how they took off both of her breasts at age 14 14 she was only autistic she wasn't 0.91

01:28:43.980 actually gender dysphoric and now she's mad so don't you can make the straw man of the eight-year-old 1.00

01:28:49.740 all you want we are cutting off the body parts of young children here in our country and we're not 0.99

01:28:57.840 gonna play the video now because we don't have enough time but what do you make of it well quite

01:29:02.720 i mean i think dylan mulvaney just you know or any time he does an appearance it's just like how many

01:29:07.900 times can i take the piss out of what it means to be a woman in 30 minutes for me personally i was a

01:29:14.000 tomboy growing up so basically loved football loved wrestlers wouldn't wear dresses and you know what

01:29:18.920 i'm probably one of the most girly girls you'll ever meet now because i was allowed to be a kid i was

01:29:23.300 allowed to explore myself without having you know things shoved down my throats and whenever i speak

01:29:28.040 to people about the trans thing i say well all right what is a woman to you because to me personally

01:29:33.320 a woman isn't a way somebody actually there's no such thing as acting like a woman but there's no 1.00

01:29:38.360 such thing as looking like a woman because if a woman wants to wear blue they're still a woman 1.00

01:29:42.440 so there is no such thing as being able to turn from a man into a woman because unless you think 1.00

01:29:48.400 woman being a woman is just a personality or a way you look which is completely unprogressive and stupid 0.99

01:29:54.860 in my eyes then you can't do that because being a woman isn't you know being redefined to those 0.99

01:30:02.020 things so unless you think that is what a woman is then you are yourself a little bit of a biggest 1.00

01:30:06.160 to be quite honest um there's no such thing as being able to you know kelly j keen she's british

01:30:10.660 she's that's where i'm getting on my merch that i've been wearing lately her website she says a woman 1.00

01:30:15.020 is an adult human female it's very simple and easy to remember and she's been fighting over there to

01:30:19.860 just to stop among other things the medicalization of these minors and there's been a little bit of a

01:30:26.560 breakthrough in the uk just this week where they've decided to stop doing that for minors

01:30:32.460 they've decided to stop the cross-gender hormones and the puberty blockers and the surgeries thank god 1.00

01:30:37.400 it's just like on covid you guys saw reason over there before we did you lost your minds we lost

01:30:42.280 our minds you saw reason first we never really did and now you know we're way behind you and realizing

01:30:48.120 this is child abuse leilani it's absolutely child abuse and i have to point out that actually just

01:30:54.020 before easter unfortunately we haven't come that far because just before easter my friend has a

01:30:59.580 three-year-old daughter and she got an email from the school saying that uh when they come back after

01:31:04.940 easter they cannot wear the little gingham uh summer dresses because they want the uniform to be more

01:31:10.580 gender neutral so this is actually going on and they are trying to influence kids at an early age so i

01:31:17.240 don't care what dylan mulvaney the caricature of a bimbo female tries to say they are trying to 1.00

01:31:25.500 influence children and there is social contagion if you look at like how children are around the

01:31:31.080 democratic states it's more them that are becoming you know confused in their gender identity and i just

01:31:37.360 saw that gays against groomers posted another article today where they said that there's three huge

01:31:42.880 universities in the usa that are saying that your child could be transgender if they pick up a you

01:31:49.720 know if a little girl picks up a boy's toy or vice versa now i like sophie was also such a tomboy growing

01:31:56.560 up i didn't want to play female sports i actually got my uh school to start a rugby team for girls when i

01:32:03.160 was 15 years old you know this went on till i was probably 17 or 18 and i have no doubt that right now

01:32:10.560 if they saw me the way i was the way i behaved the way i dressed everything they would try and tell

01:32:16.460 me that i wanted to transition and if they took that movie billy elliott with the little boy that

01:32:21.720 wanted to be a ballerina or a ballet dancer sorry they would actually say in 2023 i want you know

01:32:30.400 billy elliott let's transition him to uh sophie the ballerina you know that's what would happen it

01:32:38.800 wouldn't be billy being able to be the the little ballet dancer boy he would have to transition

01:32:44.020 the attempt but in that conversation by dylan to be like oh it's it's like so normal like being

01:32:49.080 whatever being non-cis gendered or being trans or being what it's just so normal like it's i'm sorry

01:32:55.360 but it's not normal and if you need only check the internet or tiktok daily for some of these videos

01:33:00.420 to see there is an unusually high percentage of very disturbed people claiming that they are in the

01:33:05.640 trans community and the trans community doesn't kick them out the trans community doesn't say

01:33:09.200 they don't speak for us the trans community embraces them as like yeah like you go girl 0.95

01:33:13.020 and that brings me to what happened in san francisco to the san francisco um i think it's the city but

01:33:20.580 they declined to prosecute uh somebody who wound up shooting a trans thief there was a trans thief

01:33:29.000 in a store i think it was a walgreens and it wound up in a confrontation the security guard wound up

01:33:34.440 shooting the trans thief well the trans community was very angry that they didn't charge the shooter 0.73

01:33:41.080 the security guard with anything with doing anything wrong and this is how listen would you look i warn the 0.95

01:33:47.560 listening audience you might want to like plug your ears and listen to this one muffle a little 0.96

01:33:51.780 listen to this lunatic 0.92

01:33:53.140 imagine that 1.00

01:34:03.140 i hate this i hate what you've done to us i hate what you're doing to us i hate you 0.99

01:34:15.940 board of supervisors i hate you london breed i hate you jenkins 0.99

01:34:22.580 perfectly normal hundred percent want that person in my restroom in my locker room 1.00

01:34:38.580 hard no it's a hard no

01:34:41.220 what the hell was that

01:34:44.420 what the hell was that

01:34:47.220 sophie i can't that's what we're up against so ladies fight that's what we've been saying 0.74

01:34:54.300 right we finally sort of got it fight because that's what we're up against i'm sick of this

01:34:59.260 bs i'll give you the quick last word sophie you you can take it uh the one thing i hate is

01:35:04.020 when they call us a cis woman i'm not a cis woman i'm just a woman same same adult human

01:35:10.660 female you guys so great to see you enjoy tomorrow and uh we'll we'll chat after about

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The Megyn Kelly Show - May 05, 2023

New Tucker Leaks, and Meghan Markle Skips Coronation, with Mark Steyn, Sophie Corcoran, and Leilani Dowding ｜ Ep. 544

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