The Megyn Kelly Show - Pathological： The Casey Anthony Story — The People Who Do Not Exist — Ep. 2 ｜ MK Confidential

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00:00:27.320 Kissimmee, Florida, about 20 miles south of Orlando.

00:00:31.240 Middle of July 2008.

00:00:33.540 It's 95 degrees and humid.

00:00:36.340 A 37-year-old woman named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez lives here with her six children. 1.00

00:00:42.560 She works and pays her rent herself. 0.99

00:00:45.020 Until this week, no one outside her neighborhood had any reason to know her name.

00:00:49.800 Then police find her name in the records at Sawgrass Apartments,

00:00:54.020 the complex where Casey Anthony says her missing daughter's babysitter lives.

00:00:59.860 Zenaida had been to the complex three months earlier looking for an apartment.

00:01:03.840 She filled out a guest card and left her phone number.

00:01:07.240 That is enough to send investigators to her home.

00:01:10.440 Sheriff's deputies from Orange County knock on her door

00:01:13.020 and ask if they can come in and look for a missing two-year-old girl.

00:01:17.400 Zenaida is shocked, but she lets them in.

00:01:19.640 She has nothing to do with the kidnapping, as she tells CBS,

00:01:22.760 so she tells police to check the house.

00:01:25.660 Talk to my kids, walk around, look inside,

00:01:27.880 and that's exactly what they did.

00:01:28.820 They went in, they looked around,

00:01:30.960 and even check the bathroom, make sure she wasn't in there.

00:01:33.520 The deputies are searching for Kaylee Marie Anthony,

00:01:36.420 who has been missing for a month.

00:01:38.620 The night before, Kaylee's mother, Casey,

00:01:40.660 gave detectives the name of the babysitter

00:01:43.060 whom she says has her daughter, Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez.

00:01:47.880 Deputies go to Zenaida with the obvious question.

00:01:51.420 Does she know Casey Anthony?

00:01:53.560 Does she know Kaylee Anthony?

00:01:55.780 Has she ever babysat for them?

00:01:58.720 Zenaida shakes her head and says she's never met Casey Anthony,

00:02:02.360 never seen her before, and never worked as a nanny,

00:02:05.720 which pretty much ends the conversation.

00:02:08.380 Investigators still have one more way to check.

00:02:11.320 That afternoon in a parking lot at Universal Studios,

00:02:15.320 Sergeant John Allen is going through pictures with Casey Anthony.

00:02:18.780 He has run the name Zenaida Gonzalez through the state driver's license database and pulled

00:02:24.160 the photos of every woman in Florida who matches the age range Casey has given them.

00:02:29.460 Sergeant Allen asks Casey to find her nanny.

00:02:32.760 She goes through the pictures, but none of them is the woman.

00:02:36.540 So Allen draws her attention to the woman Sheriff's deputies interviewed that morning.

00:02:41.180 He shows Casey Zenaida's picture. 0.57

00:02:43.780 Casey Anthony looks at a photograph and says, she's too old.

00:02:48.380 Police rule Zenaida out.

00:02:50.960 She has nothing to do with the missing little girl.

00:02:54.020 But as records from the investigation drip out to the public,

00:02:57.600 Zenaida's phone number is among them.

00:03:00.080 And that creates a problem.

00:03:02.060 I got phone calls from everywhere.

00:03:03.740 They started threatening me, calling me names.

00:03:06.680 The calls keep coming.

00:03:08.740 She says she loses her job and then her home.

00:03:11.520 She took everything away from me.

00:03:14.280 I lost my life.

00:03:15.460 You know, I have no privacy.

00:03:16.720 I didn't know anything I had to say to her. Why would you do that to somebody?

00:03:20.140 Why can you cause so much harm?

00:03:22.660 Being cleared by the police does not put her life back together.

00:03:26.140 She had done nothing except share a name with someone Casey Anthony invented.

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00:04:48.080 invented Zenaida Gonzalez first appears in Casey Anthony's life. That is two years before Kaylee

00:04:55.280 goes missing. Casey Anthony is 19. Her daughter Kaylee is a few months old and she has just gotten

00:05:02.180 engaged to a man named Jesse Grund. Jesse's family watches her three-month-old daughter Kaylee

00:05:08.260 three days a week as a favor. His father, Richard Grund, is a Pentecostal minister.

00:05:14.240 He remembers the overshare when Casey tells him she found a sitter. I found Zenaida Gonzalez,

00:05:20.980 and she watches my friend Jeffrey Hopkins' son, Zachary, and Zachary and Kaylee play together.

00:05:25.720 They love to be together, so this will work out great. Jeffrey Hopkins is real, but the story

00:05:32.340 Casey built around him is not. He grew up in Orlando. He knows Casey's brother Lee from school.

00:05:39.800 He and Casey know each other, but barely. When they passed each other in the hallways in high

00:05:44.120 school, she always had a big smile for him. The Jeffrey Hopkins invented by Casey lives in

00:05:49.960 Jacksonville. He's a widower with a little boy named Zach, and Zannie, the nanny, watches Zach

00:05:56.220 and Kaylee together at Jeffrey's house while Casey is at work at Universal Studios or whenever she

00:06:01.960 needs childcare. Casey also says Jeff is romantically interested in her. Her family is supposed to meet

00:06:08.660 Jeff and little Zach more than once, but they never do. Casey always has a reason why. She keeps

00:06:17.020 using Jeff's name to explain where the nanny came from. She does so even after being fired from 0.86

00:06:22.160 Universal Studios in April 2006. Casey keeps getting up and leaves the house for work. By the

00:06:30.220 middle of 2006, Casey has a nanny no one has met, tied to a man she barely knows, while she keeps

00:06:37.240 leaving home for a job she no longer has, she keeps it up for the next two years. But where

00:06:43.580 is Kaylee going all these days if not to the babysitters? Monday, June 16, 2008. Cindy Anthony

00:06:52.480 leaves for work as a nurse before her granddaughter is awake. George gives Kaylee breakfast around 7.30

00:06:58.260 a.m. At lunchtime, George is on the recliner with the television on. At 12.50 p.m., Casey comes

00:07:05.240 through the living room with her daughter. She tells her dad that she has a work meeting and

00:07:09.980 that Kaylee will be staying over at the nanny's and that she has already cleared it with her mom.

00:07:15.700 None of this is true, which George does not know. A commercial comes on TV and he checks his watch

00:07:22.740 for the time. What George does next, per his own account, is walk both of his girls out to the car.

00:07:30.060 JoJo is what Kaylee calls her grandpa. George says he holds the car door open while Casey buckles

00:07:35.960 Kaylee into the back seat, and he blows her a kiss, telling her that he loves her. He says,

00:07:42.460 JoJo, we'll see you later, and Kaylee says, bye, JoJo. George leaves for his security job at about

00:07:49.380 two o'clock that afternoon. What happens over the next few hours has never been firmly established.

00:07:57.060 That afternoon, someone on the Anthony family computer uses Firefox to search the phrase

00:08:03.460 foolproof suffocation. Firefox is the browser Casey primarily used. The search came from a

00:08:11.380 password-protected user account on the computer. No one can establish who actually types the search.

00:08:18.260 Casey's phone pings off of the towers near her parents house for most of the

00:08:24.020 afternoon then a little after 4 Casey Anthony makes a flurry of calls her

00:08:30.860 mother her father's office her boyfriend Tony Lazaro Jesse Grund about 10 calls

00:08:36.580 in 15 minutes six of them within about four minutes and almost no one picks up

00:08:42.320 at 4 18 p.m. in the middle of all that calling her phone stops using the tower

00:08:47.940 by the Anthony house and starts using a different one suggesting she is on the move the next time

00:08:54.360 anyone sees her three and a half hours have passed at 7 45 p.m. Casey Anthony and Tony Lazaro are

00:09:01.960 seen on a blockbuster video store security camera renting a movie he has his arm around her Kaylee

00:09:09.100 is not with them during the trial Lazaro's asked how Casey seemed that night how would you describe

00:09:16.420 her demeanor? The way she was every day. Which was? Happy. Happy to see me. Having a grand old

00:09:27.460 time. On this date, at any time that you saw her that night, did she ever cry? No. Did she ever act

00:09:40.580 scared. Nope.

00:09:42.600 Tony Lazaro shares an apartment on Sutton Place with two other guys, Clint House and Cameron Campana.

00:09:49.180 They are DJs who throw parties on Friday nights.

00:09:52.780 Casey starts coming around that spring, and three weeks in, she brings her daughter.

00:09:57.640 Kaylee's welcomed and loved there, as Clint later tells Investigation Discovery.

00:10:04.100 Kaylee was just the cutest two-year-old little girl that you could possibly imagine.

00:10:08.580 The first time she came in, she came walking through the front door wearing some big sunglasses

00:10:13.580 and she just looked up at us and she was like, what's up, dudes?

00:10:18.800 Kaylee was extremely intelligent for a two-year-old.

00:10:22.680 She knew how to count up to ten in English and in Spanish.

00:10:27.480 She knew her colors, she knew her shapes.

00:10:31.320 Kaylee comes over three times a week, sometimes more.

00:10:34.620 Then, the week of June 16th, 2008, she stops.

00:10:39.800 Clint tells Investigation Discovery they asked Casey about Kaylee.

00:10:43.540 The middle of June, it just came Casey coming over.

00:10:47.580 Whenever we asked Casey where Kaylee was,

00:10:49.900 she either said she was with the nanny or with the parents.

00:10:54.040 But there was nothing that stood out

00:10:55.920 that made me think that something may have happened.

00:10:59.800 Tony's other roommate, Cameron Campana,

00:11:02.080 notices something that summer he will later think was strange. Every time Casey's phone rings she

00:11:09.640 steps outside to take the call, never in the apartment. He watches her through the window

00:11:15.100 pacing around in the grass. He has no idea who she's talking to. Many of those calls are from

00:11:21.600 her mother asking where Kaylee is. Casey always has an answer and it is never to bring Kaylee

00:11:28.360 to see her grandmother. Friday, June 20th, four days since her father watched her drive away.

00:11:35.960 Casey has told Cindy that she and Kaylee are in Tampa at the Busch Gardens theme park for a work

00:11:41.320 related conference. She says she's with Zannie and Zannie's friend Juliette Lewis and Juliette's

00:11:46.960 little girl Annabelle. They are supposed to be home already. Now the conference has run an extra day.

00:11:53.100 That night, Casey is photographed at Fusion Ultra Lounge in Longwood, just north of Orlando.

00:12:00.800 She's wearing a short blue dress and tall black boots, and she is out on the dance floor.

00:12:06.820 Cindy keeps calling. The excuses keep changing.

00:12:11.300 Monday, June 23rd. It's been a week since George said goodbye to Kaylee in the back seat.

00:12:17.900 Casey promises to be home.

00:12:20.060 Instead, she calls to say the nanny has been in a car accident 0.89

00:12:23.640 and is in Tampa General Hospital with a concussion

00:12:26.520 and that she and the other girls and the kids are staying there 0.85

00:12:29.480 until Zanny's family arrives.

00:12:32.840 Friday, June 27th, Casey is supposed to come back.

00:12:37.140 Instead, she is allegedly now in Jacksonville,

00:12:40.020 seeing whether she and her dear friend Jeff Hopkins have a future

00:12:44.440 and her car has developed problems as well.

00:12:47.080 She claims Jeff does not want her driving be 141 miles to Orlando in it, so he has put it in the shop.

00:12:55.400 That same Friday, the white Pontiac Sunfire, registered to Casey's parents, runs out of gas on East Colonial Drive in Orlando.

00:13:04.540 Casey, who is not in Jacksonville, pulls the car into the lot of a payday loan store called Amscot, parks it next to a dumpster, and leaves.

00:13:15.240 She tells Tony her father will come and get it.

00:13:18.060 She does not tell her father about it.

00:13:21.520 Three days go by.

00:13:23.320 Amscott decides the car has been abandoned and calls for a tow.

00:13:27.360 Kaylee's car seat is still in the back.

00:13:30.460 The following weekend, Casey tells her mom she, yet again, cannot come home.

00:13:36.200 Good old Jeff Hopkins' mother, as it turns out, is remarrying,

00:13:40.580 and there is a brunch on Sunday that she must attend.

00:13:44.340 cindy stops asking to see kaylee and starts asking just to speak to her but it is never the right

00:13:50.180 time kaylee's napping kaylee's getting ready for bed wednesday july 2nd 16 days since anyone in

00:13:58.900 the anthony family has seen kaylee casey goes to a tattoo parlor on south orange avenue in orlando

00:14:05.620 called cast iron tattoo where she's a regular and has two words put on her left shoulder blade

00:14:12.580 Bella Vita Italian for beautiful life hours after the tattoo Casey posts on

00:14:21.040 her MySpace page writing quote on the worst of days remember the words spoken

00:14:26.200 trust no one only yourself with great power comes great consequences what is

00:14:32.740 given can be taken away everyone lies everyone dies life will never be easy

00:14:39.820 That night, Casey is out at a bar on the east side of Orlando called the Waterford Lake Alehouse.

00:14:46.740 And as coincidence would have it, standing in that bar is the actual Jeff Hopkins.

00:14:53.240 They recognize each other. They catch up. They trade phone numbers.

00:14:58.260 Jeff has no idea this woman has spent weeks describing his imaginary life and her role in it to her mother.

00:15:05.940 Cindy calls Casey seven times that night and again the next morning.

00:15:10.480 She hears nothing back.

00:15:12.640 On July 3rd, Casey finally picks up.

00:15:16.020 She tells her mother Kaylee is at Universal Studios at an event for the Children of Employees.

00:15:22.160 Casey would love to invite her, but it's only employees who are invited.

00:15:26.960 Cindy shows up anyway and calls Casey from the Universal parking lot.

00:15:31.680 Casey tells Cindy the plan has changed

00:15:34.040 and that she and Kaylee are on their way to Jacksonville

00:15:36.700 to see Jeff Hopkins and his son, Zach.

00:15:40.540 That day, Cindy creates a post on MySpace.

00:15:43.800 She titles it, My Kaylee is Missing.

00:15:47.280 She writes, quote,

00:15:48.120 She came into my life unexpectedly, just as she has left me.

00:15:52.500 This precious little angel from above gave me strength

00:15:55.120 and unconditional love.

00:15:57.100 Now she is gone, and I don't know why.

00:15:59.280 All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home.

00:16:04.540 Jealousy has taken her away.

00:16:06.520 Jealousy from the one person that should be thankful for all of the love and support given to her.

00:16:12.180 The jury will only hear about Cindy's MySpace post.

00:16:17.020 When she takes the stand to trial, the judge will bar Cindy from reading her daughter's posts aloud.

00:16:22.580 They will not hear Casey's Everyone Lies, Everyone Dies post from the previous day.

00:16:30.240 Later that night, on July 3rd, Casey's brother Lee hops from bar to bar in downtown Orlando

00:16:36.100 looking for his sister on a quest to help find Kaylee.

00:16:40.500 He's using Casey's friends' online posts to figure out where they are.

00:16:45.400 Someone tips Casey off.

00:16:47.680 Lee misses her by minutes.

00:16:49.900 Tuesday, July 8th, Casey drives her friend Amy Huizenga and Amy's roommate to the airport for a trip to Puerto Rico.

00:16:58.720 Amy leaves her checkbook in the car.

00:17:01.720 Over the next week, Casey writes a number of checks on that account.

00:17:05.520 She buys groceries, clothing, lingerie, cherries, orange juice, and a six-pack of beer, among various other things.

00:17:13.680 But nothing for a toddler.

00:17:16.600 As Casey shops, Kaylee is nowhere to be seen in any of the surveillance footage.

00:17:22.940 Tuesday, July 15th, Amy flies home.

00:17:26.880 That morning, Casey cashes one more of Amy's checks, $250 made out to herself.

00:17:33.880 Then she drives Amy's car out to the airport to collect her.

00:17:37.380 And on the way back, she tells Amy that she spoke to Kaylee that morning.

00:17:42.280 Amy does not yet know her friend has drained her bank account.

00:17:47.020 That same day, George Anthony is at the post office,

00:17:51.180 picking up a certified letter from Johnson's Wrecker Service.

00:17:55.420 George and Cindy drive out to the tow yard together.

00:17:58.480 George gets within about three feet of the white Pontiac and stops.

00:18:03.300 The stench is awful.

00:18:04.880 It is also familiar from his police days.

00:18:08.780 He opens the driver's door.

00:18:10.720 Kaylee's car seat is still in the back.

00:18:13.960 George wants to call the police from the tow yard, but Cindy refuses.

00:18:18.140 She wants to find her daughter first and give her a chance to explain what's going on.

00:18:22.880 That night, going through what was left in the car,

00:18:25.740 Cindy Anthony finds a phone number for a young woman named Amy she has never met.

00:18:32.040 Amy tells her where Casey is.

00:18:34.620 Before the night is over, Cindy Anthony will call the police several times.

00:18:38.980 It is now July 16th. Kaylee has not been seen in a month.

00:18:45.000 Detectives start checking Casey's changing story piece by piece.

00:18:50.180 Early that morning, Detective Yuri Mellick takes a recorded statement from Casey Anthony

00:18:55.040 and asks her to describe the woman who has her daughter.

00:18:59.300 Is she Puerto Rican? Is she Dominican? Is she white?

00:19:01.540 She's mixed. She's black and Puerto Rican. 1.00

00:19:04.800 Is there any underlying cause to why Zanida would have taken your job? 0.99

00:19:11.800 Nothing that...

00:19:12.800 She ever make any statements to you about...

00:19:14.800 Only how much she loves Kaylee and how great of a kid she is.

00:19:18.800 The imaginary caregiver named Zannie is 25, 5 foot 7, 140 pounds, dark curly hair and brown eyes.

00:19:27.800 She has two roommates and she babysits a second child in addition to Kaylee. 1.00

00:19:32.800 And she has an address.

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00:20:57.440 Later that afternoon, detectives bring Casey to Universal Studios.

00:21:00.860 They have visited every address she gave them, and they follow her around the park on a brisk walk to a non-existent office where Casey finally admits this has been a wild goose chase.

00:21:14.260 She does not work there.

00:21:16.400 Soon after, Casey Anthony is under arrest.

00:21:18.800 That same day, sheriff's deputies knock on the door of boyfriend Tony's apartment on Sutton Place.

00:21:25.520 Tony is there, and so is his roommate, Clint House.

00:21:29.360 Clint describes the shock of that moment to Investigation Discovery in 2017.

00:21:34.640 It was very nerve-wracking to have, you know, 20 Orlando PD inside of your home

00:21:41.900 asking you about the disappearance of a missing child.

00:21:45.440 Tony was just absolutely surprised.

00:21:50.560 He had no idea where Kaylee was.

00:21:52.500 He was just as shocked as the rest of us.

00:21:55.560 Hours later, Casey calls home from the Orange County Jail.

00:21:59.280 She has seen her mother on television talking about the case.

00:22:03.400 The jailhouse recording is later played aloud in court with Cindy in the witness box.

00:22:08.520 Casey?

00:22:09.220 Mom.

00:22:09.720 Hey, sweetie. 0.99

00:22:11.060 Well, I just saw your nice little cameo on TV. 0.98

00:22:14.360 Which one?

00:22:15.440 what do you mean which one which one i did four different ones and i don't know i haven't seen

00:22:20.720 them all i've only seen one or two so far you don't know what my involvement is in stuff

00:22:27.280 casey mom what no i don't know what your involvement is sweetheart you're not telling

00:22:34.080 me where she's at because i don't know where she's at are you kidding me casey don't waste

00:22:40.080 your call? No. What is my call? Sitting in, oh, the jail? Whose fault is you sitting in the jail? 1.00

00:22:49.360 Are you blaming me that you're sitting in the jail? Blame yourself for telling lies. You mean

00:22:53.600 it's not your fault? What do you mean it's not your fault, sweetheart? If you'd have told them

00:22:56.800 the truth and not lied about everything, they wouldn't... Do me a favor. Just tell me what

00:23:01.280 Tony's number is. I don't want to talk to you right now. Forget it. Cindy wants to find out

00:23:05.120 whether Casey is really hiding Kaylee somewhere to punish Cindy. She's not the only one who thinks 0.97

00:23:10.900 so, and it would mean the little girl is alive. Casey can receive visitors at the Orange County

00:23:17.500 jail. They can sit in separate rooms, look at each other over a video feed, and speak over a wired

00:23:23.360 telephone. Everything Casey and her guests say is being recorded. Some of it will be released to the

00:23:30.360 press, and broadcast nationwide.

00:23:33.640 Lee, George, and Cindy come to see Casey

00:23:36.140 nine days after she's arrested.

00:23:38.500 Lee goes first,

00:23:40.120 and George and Cindy speak to Casey together.

00:23:44.220 What's that T-shirt?

00:23:45.320 I didn't get a chance to ask him, you know,

00:23:46.820 other things besides...

00:23:48.440 Kaylee's picture's on the back.

00:23:49.920 Is it? Can Dad show me the shirt?

00:23:52.080 Yeah, turn around so she can see.

00:23:54.080 It's the Never Lose Hope Foundation.

00:23:56.300 Do you see it?

00:23:57.320 I can see part of it, yeah.

00:23:58.500 Have you seen me?

00:24:01.260 And then it has the information on how to contact.

00:24:04.040 Okay.

00:24:05.360 Casey, you don't realize that the whole United States is looking for Kaylee.

00:24:11.400 I know that, Mom.

00:24:12.720 Her cover's going to be on People magazine in a few days.

00:24:16.120 Okay.

00:24:17.020 Everybody is looking for her.

00:24:20.180 Oh, good.

00:24:21.820 Everybody is looking for her.

00:24:24.380 Are we going to be able to find her, do you think?

00:24:26.940 I hope we can, Mom.

00:24:28.500 Cindy goes on to ask Casey about pictures of Zannie's apartment, anything they can find that would help find Kaylee.

00:24:36.980 This is more than a week after police found the real Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez and quickly realized she was not involved.

00:24:44.980 On tape, Cindy presses her daughter and then gives her an out.

00:24:49.220 I know the pictures with Kaylee in Zannie's apartment. Is Zannie's apartment the ones with the drums?

00:24:58.500 she had a drum set yes the one in the picture I think there are even other 1.00

00:25:07.880 pictures I told Lee to look through everything okay is that Xanny's 0.95

00:25:11.900 apartment because I know whose apartment it is is it Xanny's apartment that exact

00:25:17.400 apartment no that was Ricardo's apartment it was set up a lot like Xanny's

00:25:21.340 apartment. Okay. Do we have any pictures of Zanny's apartment? Alina, I already talked about

00:25:31.460 this. I don't know. They do not find any because Kaylee has never been to Zanny the Nanny's

00:25:38.500 apartment. It does not exist. On October 14th, 2008, three months after Kaylee was last seen,

00:25:46.360 a grand jury sits for two hours of testimony and two hours of deliberation.

00:25:51.340 George Anthony is one of six witnesses to speak.

00:25:56.080 The grand jury indicts Casey Anthony for first-degree murder,

00:26:00.060 plus aggravated child abuse, aggravated manslaughter of a child,

00:26:04.060 and four counts of lying to law enforcement.

00:26:07.260 No one is arguing that Kaylee is still alive.

00:26:11.140 No one has found her body either.

00:26:13.800 That is exactly why on the 3rd of December,

00:26:15.980 the state decides not to seek the death penalty in the case against Casey Anthony.

00:26:22.100 Florida law requires aggravating factors beyond the murder itself to put the death penalty on the table.

00:26:28.540 Without a body or a reasonable assessment of how Kaylee died, the state did not have a strong argument for it.

00:26:34.680 That's according to one of the prosecutors on this case, Jeff Ashton, who will later write about the experience at length.

00:26:41.460 The one aggravating factor his team has in hand is that Kaylee was, quote,

00:26:46.340 a child in the care of a caregiver when she was killed.

00:26:51.020 While this is horrific, it does not typically push a crime into death penalty territory, not on its own.

00:26:57.940 On December 11, 2008, eight days after the state attorney's decision on the death penalty in Orlando,

00:27:04.940 a meter reader named Roy Cronk steps into a swamp.

00:27:09.220 He is working in the suburb where Cindy and George live.

00:27:12.680 He notices a black plastic bag.

00:27:16.040 Curious, he taps on it with a long tool he uses to open meter boxes.

00:27:20.280 It makes a hollow thud sound.

00:27:22.820 Then he moves the bag a little.

00:27:25.940 A small human skull rolls onto the damp ground.

00:27:30.080 He calls the police.

00:27:31.920 Detective Malek responds to the scene.

00:27:34.420 He finds a few more bones in the black plastic bag.

00:27:38.240 Over the next several days, investigators will find others scattered around the swamp by weather and wildlife.

00:27:44.440 Malik sees the skull lying in a mat of hair, with duct tape across the lower part of the face.

00:27:52.480 Two items are on the ground nearby, a canvas laundry bag and a faded Winnie the Pooh blanket.

00:27:59.800 The laundry bag matches one currently inside the Anthony family home. Their front door is only a

00:28:06.580 short walk from the swamp. Kaylee's bedroom is still decorated with Winnie the Pooh bedding.

00:28:13.040 That afternoon, two officers walk Casey Anthony

00:28:16.160 down to the medical wing of the Orange County Jail.

00:28:19.380 A television is tuned to Channel 9 News.

00:28:22.980 Casey has heard there's something new about her case on the radio,

00:28:26.420 but does not know what it is.

00:28:28.380 Channel 9 broadcasts the update in real time.

00:28:32.300 According to writer Diane Fanning, Casey recognizes the swamp.

00:28:36.280 She sinks down in a chair and begins hyperventilating.

00:28:40.560 Her palms turn red and blotchy. 0.93

00:28:42.300 she rubs them together aggressively she bends forward at the waist and says she

00:28:47.940 is going to be sick on the TV a reporter describes the remains of a small child

00:28:53.880 found less than a quarter of a mile from her parents home a little over a week

00:28:59.100 later on December 19th the district medical examiner dr. Jan Garavaglia

00:29:05.820 stands up in front of a bank of microphones with regret I'm here to

00:29:10.920 inform you that the skeletal remains found on December 11th are those of the missing toddler

00:29:16.880 Kaylee Anthony. The remains are completely skeletonized with no visible soft tissue

00:29:23.020 present and no anti-mortem trauma evident, meaning that there was no trauma to the bones

00:29:30.320 prior to death. The manner of death in this case is homicide. The cause of death will be listed

00:29:37.920 as homicide by undetermined means. The manner and cause of death are two separate findings

00:29:45.040 and the difference between them will define much of the trial. The manner of death is homicide.

00:29:51.800 Her death was caused by another person. The cause of death is undetermined. The medical examiner

00:29:58.180 cannot say how she died. A medical examiner can rule a death a homicide based solely on how a body

00:30:04.280 was handled afterward, and that's exactly what happened here. A two-year-old cannot wrap herself

00:30:10.460 up in a blanket, seal herself inside a laundry bag, put a garbage bag over that, and carry herself

00:30:16.860 out to a swamp. But manner and cause are not the same. A ruling of homicide by undetermined means

00:30:26.100 indicates someone killed this child, and officials simply cannot say how it happened. Such is the

00:30:32.800 case with the body of little Kaylee Marie Anthony. The next day, detectives return to Hope Spring

00:30:40.040 Drive with another search warrant for the Anthony house. George loses his temper about it. Cindy is

00:30:46.680 upset for a different reason. She has just finished cleaning up after the last search. Author of 0.95

00:30:52.980 Mommy's Little Girl, Diane Fanning, quotes Cindy Anthony as saying something revealing during the

00:30:58.840 search. Quote, one of Kaylee's Winnie the Pooh blankets is missing. This takes Detective Melick

00:31:04.560 by surprise. Cindy does not know what he already has bagged in evidence from the swamp. She also

00:31:12.440 tells a detective that she had people walk that swampy stretch of Suburban Drive a month ago,

00:31:17.720 and that there was nothing there. She believes the remains were put in that swamp sometime after

00:31:24.180 the middle of November. Cindy seems to be still looking for a version in which her daughter

00:31:30.340 did not commit this crime. On April 13, 2009, the prosecution reverses course and announces

00:31:38.720 they will seek the death penalty against Casey Anthony. Prosecutor Jeff Ashton says that finding

00:31:45.340 Kaylee's body changes everything. Now prosecutors have the remains, the duct tape over her mouth,

00:31:53.260 The bags.

00:31:54.600 But while the medical examiner rules the death a homicide,

00:31:58.220 she still cannot say how Kaylee died,

00:32:01.120 which gives Casey's defense attorney, Jose Baez, an opening.

00:32:06.240 To Baez, the state appears to be building its own theory of death by suffocation,

00:32:11.320 a cause of death the medical examiner herself cannot give.

00:32:15.540 The two sides now agree on almost nothing.

00:32:19.680 Kaylee Anthony is dead.

00:32:21.180 someone caused her death, and no one can say how she ended up in that swamp.

00:32:28.500 I'm Megan Kelly.

00:32:30.320 Next time on MK Confidential, the state finally has Kaylee's body.

00:32:35.400 Internet searches for chloroform, duct tape, and a meter reader

00:32:40.120 who had been trying to send police into those woods for months.

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Pathological： The Casey Anthony Story — The People Who Do Not Exist — Ep. 2 ｜ MK Confidential

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