The Megyn Kelly Show - May 21, 2025


Tapper Pressed on Biden Coverage, DOJ Charges Dem Rep, Rubio's Fiery Senate Hearing: AM Update 5⧸21


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Misogynist Sentences

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Summary

Jake Tapper admits legacy media needs to do some soul-searching over their coverage of the very obvious cognitive decline of President Joe Biden. A New Jersey Democrat facing charges. Witnesses take the stand in the criminal case against Sean Diddy Combs, shedding light on what they say really happened. And Marco Rubio battles with Democrat senators in a fiery hearing. All that and more coming up in a moment on Your AM Update.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. It's Wednesday, May 21st, 2025, and this is your
00:00:08.220 AM Update.
00:00:09.180 There should be a lot of soul-searching, not just among me, but among the legacy media
00:00:14.940 to begin with.
00:00:16.020 CNN's Jake Tapper admitting legacy media needs to do some soul-searching over their
00:00:21.200 coverage of the very obvious cognitive decline of President Joe Biden.
00:00:25.520 Alina Hopper wanted me to admit to doing something that I did not do.
00:00:29.140 And I was not going to do that.
00:00:31.520 A New Jersey House Democrat facing charges following an altercation at an ICE detention
00:00:35.920 center earlier this month.
00:00:37.740 New voices in the courtroom.
00:00:39.440 Witnesses take the stand in the criminal case against Sean Diddy Combs, shedding light on
00:00:44.220 what they say really happened.
00:00:46.220 And Marco Rubio battles with Democrat senators in a fiery hearing.
00:00:50.760 All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
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00:02:14.080 CNN's Jake Tapper and Axios reporter Alex Thompson joining The Megyn Kelly Show on Tuesday
00:02:19.540 for their first extended interview, promoting their new book, Original Sin.
00:02:24.560 The book, citing interviews with more than 200 Democrat insiders and Biden White House staffers,
00:02:29.940 details the behind-the-scenes efforts to conceal the true state of President Joe Biden's cognitive
00:02:34.920 decline, including threatening or retaliating against reporters who dared to question Mr. Biden's
00:02:40.620 mental fitness. Many in the legacy media caving to that pressure or not needing any pressure at
00:02:46.900 all to protect Mr. Biden, ignoring what was apparent to this listening audience for years.
00:02:52.140 President Biden was undergoing significant cognitive decline.
00:02:55.720 Your humble reporter questioning Mr. Tapper on his role in the cover-up.
00:03:00.240 It could only ever work if you allowed it, if the press allowed it.
00:03:04.700 Some of us tried not to, and some of us were complicit.
00:03:07.180 The Biden White House did not like me, okay? This is, I do not have great connections with
00:03:13.820 the Biden White House. Well, clearly, you have a lot of sources. You say you talked to over 200
00:03:17.140 sources for this book. So you have some you could have called and worked.
00:03:21.360 I know. That's the point, is that they were not being honest. That's the point.
00:03:26.200 Well, how did the Wall Street Journal get it in June of 2024? And Jake Tapper and CNN couldn't
00:03:30.040 find sources for this story then before he dropped out?
00:03:32.900 What? Annie Linsky and Siobhan Hughes did an amazing job in their reporting. And they should
00:03:40.980 be heralded. And I heralded them. I had them on my show right after the debate to talk about their
00:03:45.280 great reporting. But Annie Linsky-
00:03:47.080 After the debate. But you did not put them on when they published that story,
00:03:50.140 which was before the debate.
00:03:51.700 Correct. If we're going to do this, let's just stick to the facts here, okay?
00:03:55.480 When there is a damaging report- Jake, that's what I've been doing
00:03:59.600 all along. One of us didn't miss the biggest story of the century when it comes to presidential
00:04:05.620 politics. And one of us did.
00:04:08.180 Mr. Tapper called the book reporting process humbling, admitting that he should have pushed
00:04:12.780 harder on the Biden White House and revealing he called Laura Trump to apologize for dismissing
00:04:17.960 her 2020 concerns about Mr. Biden's cognitive decline. He says it's now time for the corporate
00:04:23.940 press to reflect.
00:04:26.000 And Alex and I are here to say that conservative media was right and conservative media was correct
00:04:32.500 and that there should be a lot of soul searching, not just among me, but among the legacy media to
00:04:40.380 begin with, all of us, for how this was covered or not covered sufficiently. 100%. So, I mean, I'm not
00:04:49.980 here to defend coverage that I've already acknowledged I wish I could do differently.
00:04:53.940 Mr. Tapper, who moderated the disastrous June 2024 debate that forced many on the left to finally
00:05:00.120 admit President Biden was not up to the job, describing what that moment was like from the
00:05:05.500 front row.
00:05:06.220 So, we have iPads, because you can't communicate, obviously, talking to your control room during a
00:05:12.880 debate. We have iPads. I wrote, holy smokes. Now, what I was thinking was, holy fuck. Dana writes to me on a
00:05:18.480 piece of paper. He just lost the election. And it was just, I mean, it is, I don't think this is
00:05:25.480 hyperbole at all, the worst debate in the history of presidential debates going back to 1960. I just
00:05:32.660 can't think of anything even remotely close to it.
00:05:35.160 And then you saw him immediately after, you write in the book, and he seemed, like, unaware that something...
00:05:42.480 Did I just see that? Was that... Did I just witness this 90-minute event?
00:05:47.660 For years, critics of the Biden administration have questioned who was really running the White
00:05:52.120 House. Original sin offering the clearest answer yet, reporting that four senior aides effectively
00:05:58.220 ran the country, with President Biden described as, at most, quote, a senior member of the board.
00:06:04.840 Reporter Alex Thompson with more.
00:06:06.500 The people that we're naming would be Mike Donilon, Steve Reschetti. Mike Donilon's his top
00:06:11.520 political advisor. Steve Reschetti's his top legislative advisor. Ron Klain, when he was
00:06:16.880 chief of staff. Bruce Reed, his basically longtime policy advisor. You can, those are sort of the four,
00:06:25.000 they were known as Apollo Burrow, Gray Hares, Poobahs, and they were with him the most of anybody.
00:06:30.860 Now, if you were to ask them, and I still think even if you put them on truth serum today,
00:06:34.700 they would say, he was fine. Then there's this other sort of group that aren't the Politburo,
00:06:40.260 but are just as powerful. And they were the ones that kept the schedule, affected personnel,
00:06:45.820 and really built the bubble. And that would be Annie Tomasini, who was deputy chief of staff
00:06:50.740 and previously Oval Office operations. And then Anthony Bernal, who was the top aide slash enforcer
00:06:57.820 for First Lady Jill Biden, and had incredible influence to the point that even people in the
00:07:04.120 Biden White House would refer to her as one of the most powerful First Ladies in history.
00:07:09.400 The book facing criticism, not just from the right, but from the left as well, including some Biden
00:07:14.180 allies, including former ambassador and Democratic fundraiser Rufus Gifford, who pushed back on its
00:07:20.260 account of a now infamous fundraiser hosted by George Clooney and Julia Roberts. According to
00:07:26.000 Original Sin, Mr. Clooney, a longtime friend of President Biden's, was reportedly stunned,
00:07:31.100 stunned when the president did not recognize him, George Clooney. That anecdote appearing to align
00:07:37.780 with Mr. Clooney's later op-ed following the June 2024 debate, where he acknowledged only after
00:07:44.220 the disastrous debate that he had earlier seen Mr. Biden's decline. But Gifford, who attended the
00:07:51.140 event, says the book got it wrong, insisting there was no moment where Mr. Biden failed to recognize
00:07:56.640 Clooney. Mr. Tapper responding to that pushback. We just went through, as a country, years and years
00:08:03.360 of the Biden people lying and denying. And I'm not particularly interested in pretending any of it is
00:08:11.840 credible. We are very sure of our story. It wasn't just in our book. It was thoroughly fact-checked in
00:08:18.300 The New Yorker, who did an excerpt of it, and we stand by it. And I don't really care what Rufus says.
00:08:26.100 The full interview with Tapper Ann Thompson, including many new details from the book,
00:08:30.740 is available on The Megyn Kelly Show feed on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts.
00:08:37.820 On Monday, interim U.S. Attorney for New Jersey, Alina Haba, announcing two actions tied to a recent clash
00:08:44.220 between Democratic lawmakers and law enforcement at an ICE detention facility. On May 9th,
00:08:50.300 Representatives Bonnie Watson Coleman, Rob Menendez, and LaMonica McIver arrived at Delaney Hall in Newark
00:08:57.280 seeking a tour. Newark Mayor Raz Baraka, a vocal critic of the facility, also showed up. Tensions
00:09:03.920 escalated, leading to a scuffle. The Trump administration accusing the Democrats of storming
00:09:08.700 the facility. Mayor Baraka was arrested for misdemeanor trespassing, but released the same day.
00:09:14.220 Body cam footage shows Congresswoman McIver physically engaging with the officers.
00:09:20.000 On Monday, U.S. Attorney Haba dropped the charges against Baraka, quote,
00:09:23.740 for the sake of moving forward, offering to personally tour the facility with him.
00:09:28.280 Haba then announcing charges against Congresswoman McIver for allegedly assaulting and interfering with
00:09:33.940 law enforcement, saying she had, quote, given her every opportunity to come to a resolution.
00:09:39.540 Congresswoman McIver firing back, calling the charges, quote, purely political,
00:09:43.440 saying she looks forward to clearing her name in court. On CNN, the Congresswoman implying she
00:09:48.720 rejected a plea deal. Well, the Justice Department and Alina Hoppe wanted me to admit to doing
00:09:54.880 something that I did not do, and I was not going to do that. Once again, I came there to do my job
00:10:00.500 and conduct an oversight visit, and they wanted me to say something differently.
00:10:05.120 House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and other members of the House Democrat leadership
00:10:09.600 condemning the move in a joint written statement, quote, the criminal charge against Congresswoman
00:10:14.620 LaMonica McIver is extreme, morally bankrupt, and lacks any basis in law or fact. The statement
00:10:20.420 characterizing the charges as, quote, a blatant attempt by the Trump administration to intimidate
00:10:24.960 Congress and interfere with our ability to serve as a check and balance on an out-of-control
00:10:29.760 executive branch. President Trump asked about the charges on Tuesday.
00:10:34.180 Oh, give me a break. Did you see her? She was out of control.
00:10:37.220 Those days are over. The days of woke. The days of woke. No, I didn't. The days of woke are over.
00:10:43.480 That woman, I have no idea who she is. That woman was out of control. She was shoving federal
00:10:49.300 agents. She was out of control. The days of that crap are over in this country. We're going to have
00:10:54.580 law and order. Coming up, a participant in the infamous so-called freak-offs takes the stand in
00:11:01.900 the Sean Diddy Combs trial and Secretary of State Marco Rubio's fiery Senate hearing next.
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00:12:21.680 Testimony in the Sean Diddy Combs criminal trial continuing on Tuesday. Mr. Combs' former assistant,
00:12:27.620 David James, taking the stand for a second day of testimony. Mr. James worked for Mr. Combs from 2007
00:12:33.440 to 2009, telling prosecutors he often set up hotel rooms for Mr. Combs. The work involved prepping
00:12:39.900 clothing, a toiletry bag, a medicine bag, food, and drinks for Combs. The witness saying the medicine
00:12:45.520 bag typically contained 25 to 30 pill bottles, including ecstasy and Percocet. James testified
00:12:51.680 to frequently procuring drugs for Combs' friends, including cocaine. James would restock items for
00:12:57.720 Mr. Combs, including baby oil, lubricant, and condoms. James said he would ask Combs' security
00:13:03.660 for cash reimbursement for these items, held in a Louis Vuitton bag always carried by Combs' security.
00:13:10.520 On cross-examination, Mr. James testifying he was instructed not to submit those personal items
00:13:15.080 for reimbursement, accepting those cash repayments instead, because Combs did not want to have a
00:13:20.560 company record for those items. Prosecutors then calling mail stripper Sheree Hayes to the stand.
00:13:26.820 Mr. Hayes testifying that he met Mr. Combs and Ms. Ventura in 2012. According to Hayes,
00:13:32.640 Ms. Ventura hired him while she was using a fake name. When he arrived at the Trump International
00:13:37.400 Hotel in New York City, Ms. Ventura told Mr. Hayes she and her husband, quote,
00:13:41.620 liked to create a sexy scene involving baby oil. Ventura allegedly telling Hayes that her husband
00:13:47.460 would eventually enter the room, but Hayes was instructed not to look at him. Hayes telling
00:13:52.420 prosecutors he participated in about 8 to 12 of these sessions in total and that Combs never
00:13:57.740 appeared to be intoxicated. Hayes says the events were typically planned a few hours in advance
00:14:02.700 and he would be invited by Ventura. The defense clearly trying to show that Ms. Ventura freely
00:14:08.340 participated in these freak-offs, even handling the sex worker logistics. The witness telling
00:14:14.000 prosecutors, quote, my understanding was we were creating a scene, a sexy scene that was enjoyable
00:14:19.100 to her partner, going on later to say he never saw filming or violence in any of their encounters.
00:14:25.260 Special Agent Gerard Gannon, the agent in charge during the search of Mr. Combs' Miami home in March
00:14:31.020 2024, also taking the stand, telling prosecutors agents found platform high heels, sex toys, baby oil,
00:14:38.700 personal lubricant, and lingerie in Mr. Combs' closet, as well as parts to AR-15 rifles and loaded
00:14:45.880 magazines. Court will resume later today with more testimony from Special Agent Gannon.
00:14:54.040 Secretary of State Marco Rubio returning to Capitol Hill on Tuesday for testimony before the Senate
00:14:59.260 Foreign Relations Committee, his first appearance in securing unanimous Senate confirmation. The three-hour
00:15:05.320 hearing erupting in fireworks several times. Secretary Rubio clashing with Democrat lawmakers furious over
00:15:11.480 the Trump administration's America first foreign policy vision. Democrat Senator from Maryland,
00:15:16.900 Chris Van Hollen, using his entire allotted time to rip into Secretary Rubio without asking a single
00:15:23.140 question. You've made a mockery of our country's refugee process, turning it into a system of global
00:15:29.620 apartheid where political ideology and race, more than truth or need, matter. Like the McCarthy-era witch
00:15:37.460 hunts of the 1950s, your campaign of fear and repression is eating away at foundational values
00:15:43.440 of our democracy. Attorney Joseph Welch, to cut through the hysteria with a simple question,
00:15:48.320 he asked Senator McCarthy, have you no sense of decency? And I would ask you the same, Secretary Rubio.
00:15:55.020 You have shown through your words and your actions what the answer is. And I have to tell you directly
00:16:01.580 and personally that I regret voting for you for Secretary of State. I yield back.
00:16:07.060 Secretary Rubio defending the administration's foreign policy agenda, including cuts to foreign
00:16:12.040 aid, changes to immigration enforcement, and the overall restructuring of the State Department.
00:16:17.460 Well, first of all, your regret for voting for me confirms I'm doing a good job.
00:16:20.740 I can't respond to everything he said because much of these are untrue, but I'll go through a few.
00:16:24.300 First of all, I'm actually very proud of the work we've done with USAID. For example,
00:16:27.900 I don't regret cutting $10 million for male circumcisions in Mozambique. In the case of
00:16:34.460 El Salvador, absolutely. Absolutely. We deported gang members. Gang members, including the one you
00:16:40.420 had a margarita with. And that guy is a human trafficker, and that guy is a gangbanger.
00:16:46.220 Mr. Rubio referencing Senator Van Hollen's previous travel to El Salvador to visit the deported
00:16:51.960 Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a credibly accused MS-13 gang member in Salvadoran custody.
00:16:57.900 Secretary Rubio also clashing with Democratic Senator from Virginia, Tim Kaine, over the
00:17:03.360 Trump administration's recent acceptance of white refugees from South Africa. Those refugees
00:17:08.620 citing fears of racial persecution under a South African law allowing race-based land seizures
00:17:14.020 without compensation. Democrats condemning the policy, accusing the Trump administration of
00:17:18.980 racial bias. Here now some of that exchange.
00:17:22.540 So a well-justified fear of persecution.
00:17:24.780 Yeah, they thought that their farms were being burned down and they would be killed. I think
00:17:27.740 that's a pretty good justification for wanting to come. They're afraid for their lives.
00:17:30.740 And should it be applied in an even-handed way? That's an easy issue.
00:17:33.840 No, our foreign policy doesn't require even-handedness. It requires prioritizing the interest of the United
00:17:39.360 States.
00:17:39.440 The statutory phrase says you are entitled to entrance as a refugee if you demonstrate a well-justified
00:17:44.880 fear of persecution.
00:17:46.420 No, no, you're not entitled. You're allowed.
00:17:47.560 So can you have a different standard based upon the color of somebody's skin? Would that be
00:17:51.100 acceptable?
00:17:51.300 Well, I'm not the one arguing that. Apparently you are because you don't like the fact that
00:17:54.160 they're white and that's why they're coming.
00:17:55.040 No, I'm just asking you to say that that would be unacceptable.
00:17:56.480 Well, no, I would say that the United States-
00:17:58.020 That would seem to be a very easy thing to say.
00:17:59.220 The United States has a right to pick and choose who they allow into the United States.
00:18:02.140 Even based on the color of somebody's skin, you're saying?
00:18:04.140 You're the one that's talking about the color of their skin, not me.
00:18:06.300 The president of South Africa will visit the White House later today.
00:18:11.260 And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show,
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