Tariffs and Markets Perspective, Exclusive Info From Nashville Shooter's Journals, and American Held in Russia, with Victor Davis Hanson and Chris van Heerden ｜ Ep. 1043
False reports of a Trump tariff pause sent the Dow Jones down 500 points and wiped out a morning 1,700 point gain, before it turned out the rumor wasn t true. President Trump urges Americans to not panic, and says, "Don't panic. Don't be weak, don't be stupid, don t be panicking. ... Don't panic." Plus, we break down the Nashville School Shooters' journals, which we broke exclusively this morning on AM Update.
00:03:07.160And don't let these Wall Street hot shots who live and die by a two-point market move dictate the wisdom of Trump's tariffs, which are a longer-term strategy.
00:03:19.300Look, President Trump is far from panicking.
00:03:23.760He posted this morning on Truth Social, quote, the U.S. has a chance to do something that should have been done decades ago.
00:03:49.660We're going to get into it, plus more of our exclusive reporting on the Nashville School Shooters journals, which we broke exclusively this morning on AM Update, which you should check later today after this show.
00:04:02.460I just want to tell you what happened there.
00:04:04.800We received an exclusive on the Nashville Shooters manifesto from the FBI.
00:04:12.540We exclusively had permission to report on it, though not to post the documents.
00:04:17.200And we spent the weekend reviewing the over 1,000 of them.
00:04:21.380And what we concluded, and it's outlined in Morning Update, which is on YouTube and on our podcast feed, is that we were misled by Nashville authorities last week who said, there's not one document called the manifesto.
00:04:36.320So we're just going to tell you, based on our reading of these 1,000-plus documents, what the motives here were.
00:05:18.720And we don't have the same agenda as the people making those decisions.
00:05:23.000And thanks to Kash Patel and his transparent efforts at the FBI, we will bring you the full report later today.
00:05:30.720We begin today with Victor Davis Hanson.
00:05:33.200He's a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and author of the book, The End of Everything, How Wars Descend Into Annihilation.
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00:06:47.720The meltdown on the establishment right and the Trump-hating left over the volatility caused by Trump's change in tariffs is everywhere.
00:06:59.460Good luck tuning into a podcast, a television show, picking up a paper without being told how terrible these decisions are and how Trump doesn't know what he's doing.
00:07:13.580You actively have to work to find somebody like you who says, let me tell you another way of looking at this and try to disabuse some of these establishment types of their very, very well-held wisdom.
00:07:32.500Well, there is a lot of misinformation.
00:07:34.360The first thing is that I know this, I'm like you, I have a 401k and it's been really hurt, but Donald Trump did everything Wall Street wanted his first term.
00:07:48.240He repealed Dodd-Frank, he deregulated, he cut taxes, he encouraged, accelerated depreciation.
00:07:59.020And the market went up, Megan, 65% under Donald Trump, higher than even Biden, even though that he suffered through the COVID.
00:08:07.720So I was looking at the Dow when it's 37 or 38,000.
00:08:11.580It's pretty much where Biden was in 2023.
00:08:16.160And over the Biden and Trump eight years, it's gone up 100%.
00:08:22.620It's gone from 1900, when Trump first entered office, up to 38,000, low point.
00:08:29.340But if you look at wages, and this is what it's all about, even though the productivity over the last 50 years has almost doubled per worker, wages only went up 35%.
00:08:41.440Now, as far as the psychodrama goes, you and I are elites, and we understand that.
00:08:47.680But 10% of the country owns 93% of the value of the stock market.
00:08:57.480So a lot of this paranoia is that these people are not making over a 10-year period what they think they deserve.
00:09:06.400In other words, their portfolios over the last decade went up by 80% and no longer at this particular point have doubled into 100%.
00:09:15.580But they're not interested on the people below who would have dreamed of having wage returns to be comparable to the stock market.
00:09:24.840The other thing is, and I don't understand this, that they are not offering any constructive alternative.
00:09:37.120I keep thinking, well, maybe the left, I remember Bernie Sanders and Nancy Pelosi said that our policy toward China was a job loser.
00:09:46.700I remember Paul Krugman said he was a mercantilist.
00:09:49.500I can remember Warren Buffett writing that we are being wiped out by, that was 20 years ago, by asymmetrical trade.
00:09:57.940So I'm waiting for all these voices to come up and say, no, this is what we should do to address the $1 trillion annual trade deficit or the trade deficits that have been, without exception, continuous since, what, 1975 or half century?
00:10:15.360They can either say, well, you know, trade deficits don't matter, and I'll tell you why, or here's a better way of doing it, or yes, we're paying $3 billion a day in interest on the national debt, but here's what I would do, or here's how I'm going to get to it.
00:10:27.880They don't do any of that, especially the left.
00:10:30.020So it's just, and then when you look at the whole totalitarian, the totality of the Trump 80 days, it's, well, we went from 10,000 a day to zero on the border.
00:10:45.000We've already identified $150 billion that everybody on both sides admits is probably waste and fraud already.
00:10:52.560For the first time in a decade, you can navigate through the Red Sea.
00:10:57.260The Houthis are pretty much in withdrawal.
00:11:00.560Iran is completely emasculated, and somebody's talking about ending the Ukraine war, which instead of just, we'll give them whatever it takes to the end.
00:11:10.160So there's been dramatic changes that there are no, there's no appreciation.
00:11:14.660And, you know, one last thing, I think workers understand that even if they don't buy stock in the company in which they work, the stock market is important.
00:11:24.200Donald Trump used to brag that he was, he had raised it 60% his first time, and people said, oh, the stock market, that's not a good barometer, workers' wages and unemployment.
00:11:32.460But Donald Trump already had provided this week, you'd think the stock market would take note, 100,000 more jobs than the government said would be produced.
00:11:43.280And the interest rate at an annual rate maybe at this month is about 2%, 5%.
00:11:49.400And so he's getting to some data, and then you think, well, given this hysteria by the 10% and the media and academia and politics and the corporate world, he's done for.
00:12:00.980And then you'd look at the Harvard-Harris poll, and he's still 49, 46, down a point or two.
00:12:07.380So I guess what I'm saying is I'm not, this for me, I like to do exactly what you said, take a deep breath, and then contextualize this with the Russian collusion hoax that we all said was a fake and were not disbelieved.
00:12:23.280The COVID lockdown debacle, the Hunter laptop disinformation fable, the lie that Joe Biden was fit as a fiddle, the idea that Kamala Harris had closed the distance and she was three points ahead in Iowa and going to win that.
00:12:39.200And these all were these psychodramas that turned out to be not what they were.
00:12:43.900And finally, one last rant, though, they keep talking about tariffs, tariffs, tariffs, recession, depression.
00:12:50.460I can't think of a tariff that caused a major recession of depression.
00:12:57.920That was this reckless Wall Street hysteria that we're seeing now only channeled into subprime mortgage securitization in the market when there wasn't capital there that they said there was.
00:13:09.840The Smoot-Harley lack did not cause a Great Depression.
00:13:45.840And the final thing is that they think there's going to be help from the Democrats on deregulation, tax reduction, investment, protecting American companies, dealing with the debt, dealing with the deficit.
00:14:03.940Everything that's coming out of the left is antithetical to what the Wall Street Journal, for example, believes.
00:14:09.340So I just would like to hear what their alternative scenario is.
00:14:13.280Donald Trump's communication, I would only suggest to them that he have a tragic tone.
00:14:19.280He should, instead of saying beautiful tariffs and we're going to make them pay or Europe has been ripping us off or repertory, he should say, you know, I didn't want to do this.
00:14:29.040But we've had 50 years of this and nobody brought anybody's attention to it.
00:14:34.740They're outsourcing that has destroyed the industrial base of this country.
00:14:39.240I don't like cutting federal workers, but who had ever cared about the $37 trillion debt?
00:14:48.020Who cares about the $3 billion in interest per day?
00:14:51.280I was tasked to do this in a way that nobody else has addressed it.
00:14:55.020I don't like doing it, but I'm going to do it for the good of the country, even though I'm going to be hated for doing it.
00:15:00.660If he said that, I think it'd be—the other thing he could say is he's got to talk—cease all the talk about repertory tariffs, where he says, well, we're going to make them pay for all the stuff they did in the past.
00:15:12.580Or they manipulate the currency, true.
00:15:16.220They use health and safety gimmicks to forbid import, true.
00:15:20.480But for right now, at this moment, he's got to talk about reciprocity, that American people will back him the whole way if he just says, I would like zero tariffs with partners.
00:15:33.260And barring that, I want our tariffs to be what their tariffs are.
00:15:37.220And just stop all the talk about we're going to have a 10 percent on everybody regardless, or we're going to tariff Australia even though they have a trade deficit with us.
00:15:44.740He can get in in the second round to the currency manipulation, the VAT tax, the scams that countries use to say your products aren't clean enough, or they may have disease, all of that.
00:15:57.200But for right now, the American people just want to be due unto others as they do to us.
00:16:03.040And they will back him to the end of the earth when he makes the argument, I am just—it's on autopilot.
00:16:38.220The Chinese is—that's a special case.
00:16:41.860And it's amazing, like, the disparity in terms of what they import to us versus what we import to them.
00:16:49.760And, you know, people have been talking about—well, they—Trump really added a lot of tariffs on them, 37% on top of the pre-existing tariffs that were already there under Trump 1.0 that Biden claimed to hate but then kept in place.
00:17:02.280And it affects virtually nothing because they don't buy from us.
00:17:07.040So, like, it's almost just an exercise in—well, okay.
00:17:09.760It's like a thought exercise because compared to what we buy from them, they buy next to nothing from us.
00:17:14.620But today, they actually had the nerve to issue a retaliatory tariff after Trump's 34%.
00:17:22.520And Trump just issued this statement on Truth Social.
00:18:27.500Let's talk about China because, you know, the general thinking seems to be what's going to happen in North America is ultimately going to be done by deal between Trump, Canada, and Mexico.
00:18:37.820That, you know, he already struck a deal with them first time around, and they'll probably strike another deal because we're all on the same continent and we have an interest in having healthy trading relationships with our upstairs and downstairs neighbors.
00:18:50.460Then there's Europe, which now is, you know, acting as a bloc, some 27 countries.
00:18:56.040And I think the general wisdom is that we'll reach a deal with them, too, some sort of a deal.
00:19:00.900Like, maybe this is a negotiation to hit something better.
00:19:04.640These tariffs are, in large part, about Asia.
00:19:06.900And China, the number one, where there's this huge disparity.
00:19:10.660And then when we hit them with tariffs last time around, they outsourced a lot of their manufacturing to some of these other Asian countries, like Vietnam.
00:19:19.000We're like, oh, okay, we don't have to do it here.
00:20:03.060They export it to America, and we pay through the nose for it.
00:20:08.780And now Trump's trying to right that balance by bringing American manufacturing back and decreasing our dependence on this country that hates us.
00:20:19.340Your thoughts on Asia and China and how that all plays in here?
00:20:22.220Well, traditionally in these trade wars, the country that is running a big surplus is more vulnerable because their industry and their economy has been geared toward mercantilism.
00:20:36.040The second thing is there's going to be a lot of opportunistic countries, Vietnam in particular, that are going to come to us and say, we can do what China is doing to you, and we will give you a better deal.
00:20:49.460We'll have reciprocal tariffs with you.
00:20:51.740But if you go after China, we're here, and they're going to pop up.
00:20:57.480If the music goes off, everybody wants a chair.
00:21:00.240Once he starts to do these deals, a lot of countries will say, if I don't cut a deal with them, I'll be the last one to get into the American market.
00:21:07.840And so China is vulnerable in that aspect.
00:21:15.920They are buying hundreds of thousands of farmland in strategically located places.
00:21:22.400The FBI, CIA has estimated that 1%, and that was very generous, of students and people from China on green cards are actively engaged in espionage.
00:21:36.000So my point is this, is that they see us as naive and as ripe for exploitation in 360-degree thinking.
00:21:46.200If Trump gets into a tiff with him, as he is now, he has all sorts of levers.
00:21:53.240He could say to China tomorrow, we're restricting the number of Chinese students that are coming to the United States by 100,000.
00:22:00.220They would go ballistic, and so would the universities who are using those and charging them 110% as a way of cash to subsidize a lot of the things they shouldn't be doing.
00:22:10.780So he could say that tomorrow that the Chinese cannot buy land in the United States, especially farmland within a vicinity of a military base.
00:22:20.320He could really clamp down on patent, copyright theft, military exchanges.
00:22:26.960Some of our allies have exchanges with China, which they appropriate American technology.
00:22:33.360So they think that we are completely dependent on them, and we are in the short term.
00:22:39.480But on the long term, their entire growth has been predicated on American magnanimity, and they know that.
00:22:46.200And, you know, getting back to Wall Street, we were sold this, Megan, by the Clinton administration, the George Bush administration, the Obama administration, that the more laxity and deference that you gave China, the more that they would rack up surpluses, become affluent, create a middle-class consumer class, get plugged in globalization, have their students in Western universities.
00:23:12.680Then they would liberalize, and then they would become a constitutional society and join the family of nations.
00:23:19.820They used this asymmetrical relationship with Europe and us to make a lot of money, to build a lot of weapons, to bully their enemies and create the Silk Road, Belt and Road, Mercantile Empire, and all as a way of dethroning the United States.
00:23:38.160So they have no goodwill among Americans, and they're much more vulnerable than everybody thinks.
00:23:46.060We were watching, you know, the usual suspects, for the most part, beat up on Trump.
00:23:53.400But what I am gleaning is that some of the people who are defecting from Trump on this plan or just giving him time to see how it works are people who are extremely heavily invested in the market.
00:24:22.600You know, I've been following Bill Ackman's X feed, and he actually he had a post about you tweeting directly to you, saying you made a compelling case for the tariff strategy, but that you had one issue incorrect.
00:24:37.020He claimed that the Trump he describes the Trump tariffs as reciprocal and proportional to these other nations and what they've assessed on us.
00:24:44.740In actuality, the Trump tariffs were set at levels substantially above and in many cases at a multiple of the counterparty country's tariff levels and goes on, as Bill Ackman tends to do, with a very, very long post.
00:24:56.620Yeah, I don't I don't think it's it's the way you calibrate whether it's reciprocal or not.
00:25:00.500So I think that most of them are reciprocal.
00:25:02.460Well, I know what you mean, because, I mean, there are some countries who they don't have a tariff on our goods necessarily, but we're just not allowed to sell our cars there.
00:25:10.740They've they've created such a like a green scheme that keeps us out that it's might as well have a hundred percent tariff.
00:25:17.500You know, we we I can tell you from agriculture, we dip chickens because we don't want people putting a whole chicken on the counter for more than 24 hours.
00:25:27.140So we dip them in chlorine tinge water.
00:25:29.100European does not want Europe's don't what they say.
00:25:32.340Oh, we're going to make a law of chlorines too deadly.
00:25:34.500Or the Australians say in 2003, one Canadian cow came across the border with mad cows.
00:25:54.080And when I go to the supermarket, people will come up and talk, mostly Mexican-American people.
00:25:59.100And I can tell you that not one person the last week has mentioned the stock market.
00:26:03.600All they have talked about is trade, trade and jobs, jobs, jobs.
00:26:08.760And these are the 50 percent who account for one percent, 50 percent of the country that accounts for one percent of the market capitalization value in Wall Street.
00:26:19.700But that's not the people who are reporting.
00:26:21.780That's not the people who are weighing in.
00:26:25.080And I think people, you know, and when you say reps, when they say reciprocity, that's what I was getting to earlier.
00:26:32.500The first thing they'll say is they would say, I talked to four or five people and they said, is it true that Mexico has 170 billion trades?
00:26:49.480They would either like zero tariffs or tit for tat.
00:26:52.620And if Trump can stick to that, he will not only get a lot of foreign investment and change of attitude, but he will get the overwhelming support of the American people.
00:27:02.880But if he gets into all of this stuff that we just talked about, which is valid and legitimate, but if he does it in round one, then people are going to come.
00:27:11.380Well, Trump's I think the Wall Street Journal runs almost every day.
00:27:15.360Trump is lying and not reciprocal or that is a losing argument at this stage.
00:27:19.620Well, just to finish the point on Bill, so then by Sunday at 5 p.m., he called for a 90-day pause in the terrace.
00:27:27.740So first he was, OK, I disagree with Victor a little, but he said we have to help Trump succeed.
00:27:50.400Then he followed up by saying, if you haven't noticed by now, I speak the truth regardless of the consequences to me personally or what other people think.
00:27:57.720Then by Sunday night, he was taking shots at Howard Lutnick, saying I just figured out why he's indifferent to the stock market and the economy crashing.
00:28:04.760He and Cantor Fitzgerald, which he runs, are long bonds, meaning they profit when the economy implodes.
00:28:10.400It's a bad idea to pick a secretary of commerce whose firm has leveraged long, fixed income, an irreconcilable conflict of interest.
00:28:17.140By Monday morning, he was saying he had been unfair to Howard Lutnick.
00:28:21.680I don't think he's pursuing his self-interest.
00:28:23.660I'm sure he's doing the best he can for the country.
00:28:25.560I'm just frustrated watching what I believe to be a major policy error.
00:29:06.440And Republicans in particular are used to a president who is devoted to helping their pocketbooks.
00:29:14.320It goes back to the wisdom of my nana who lived to be 101.
00:29:17.880And when she saw I was working at Fox News and I was saying certain things on certain policies and starting to sound more right wing, she said, Republicans.
00:29:28.120She goes, we're we're Republicans are for the rich.
00:30:30.480And that's why he hasn't really he hasn't taken a Wall Street hit of the same magnitude in his polls, because, as I said, 50 percent of the people have one percent of the value of the market.
00:30:42.800Well, on that point, on that point, here's let me just play the soundbite.
00:30:45.960It's for it's Scott Besson, our Treasury Secretary, who sat down with Tucker last week and spoke to that a bit.
00:31:08.940Working class Americans that hourly workers did better than supervisory workers.
00:31:14.400The bottom 50 percent of households, their net worth increased faster than the top 10 percent of households.
00:31:22.880And I'm not happy with what's going on in the market today.
00:31:27.760But the distribution of equities across households, the top 10 percent of Americans own 88 percent of equities, 88 percent of the stock market.
00:31:38.720The next 40 percent owns 12 percent of the stock market.
00:31:51.120And we've got to give them some relief.
00:31:54.800And that top 10 percent, Victor, as you know, includes all of the Acela media, all these anchors on CNN, all these op-ed writers for The Wall Street Journal.
00:32:22.240And this is why I use that metaphor, because they remind me of when my Swedish grandfather would say, cut the chicken's head off and then see this thing flop around.
00:33:46.140And you know what's going to happen if Trump cuts all of these deals and this investment, and you and I have this same conversation nine months from now, and there's $4 trillion investment, then they're going to say, I was with Trump the whole way.
00:34:43.120So that class of this elite that owns stock, it's synonymous also with the people who follow every breath in the media and academia and the corporate boardroom and the legal community.
00:35:17.080They're kind of, I don't know what the word is, but I drive over to the coast, you know, each week on the Stanford campus.
00:35:25.600And by the time I'm there 48 hours and I come back to central rural agricultural California, Central Valley, it's like, wow, I just went to Mars and I'm now back on Earth because they, they're not representative of most people.
00:35:41.400No, I think about it all the time because now, of course, I've been in media for a long time and we have some nice trappings surrounding us as a family.
00:35:50.440But we used to live in this three bedroom duplex that was in an okay area of town in this small little town in Westchester.
00:36:02.420You know, no, like a one car garage was fine.
00:36:05.600I'm not saying we were poor, but we were, we didn't have a lot of money.
00:36:31.960You need something ideally that occupies your time on a daily basis that makes you feel like you're contributing to society.
00:36:37.420But I don't, I just, I can't help but feel that there's an underlying, like, missing value here in the rush to condemn his plan by the so-called elites.
00:36:49.120It's like, could you just hold on and come to terms with a moment?
00:36:53.720Like, what if, what if you did have a massive wipeout on Wall Street that didn't rebound?
00:36:59.160I don't believe for a minute that Trump will leave it there.
00:37:04.920He surrounds himself with rich people because he so admires them and what they, there's no way he's going to tell the rich base, you're screwed.
00:37:12.920But like, let's just imagine a world in which they do get a little screwed and they actually lose a fair amount of money and the lower half of the country rises up.
00:37:22.980I just think there's like this piece of the people covering this, the ones who are having the meltdowns that cannot imagine a life without their immense wealth.
00:37:32.280Well, I, I mean, I, I can give you examples.
00:37:38.160I, I have, I live in a 150 year old house.
01:10:43.180Chris Matthews the other day would say, no, he's a moose.
01:10:45.360Just tell us exactly what he's done and if it's any different than any other president and then make your case.
01:10:52.200And, you know, I was always taught by my fifth grade composition teacher that when you're writing or speaking, she would say, now, Victor, remember to limit the first person I to one or two times.
01:11:05.620All these people have one thing in common.
01:20:57.160The head of the firm has to save the firm and save the client base and, of course, save their fat cat salaries and their private school tuitions that they're paying.
01:21:05.180Like, he has to be practical about this because they made some very bad decisions prior to the moment Donald Trump did that.
01:21:12.500But George Conway will not cry about any of that.
01:21:15.040He will not cry about the weaponization against Donald Trump because he was for it.
01:21:21.620And what's even worse is the bill of – when the National View calls bill of attainder, there's only two examples that are clear cut.
01:21:29.660The New York state legislature passed with its Democratic majority a law that said after Donald Trump was being investigated for tax returns,
01:21:40.400and they passed a law that said anybody who is being investigated currently for their tax account, we will turn over his state return to the commission.
01:21:51.960Then they passed – when E. Jean Carroll came forward and had all of those fantasies and fables,
01:21:57.480at the first ruling it said these are way past – 30 years past the statute of – and you know what?
01:22:03.600The same legislature passed a bill that said for the next 12 months, anybody who claims that they have a – that they were sexually assaulted has one year to file charges no matter how long ago.
01:22:17.000There is no statute of – that was aimed at Donald Trump.
01:22:55.900A bill of attainder says that you see – you post facto create and pass to the legislator a particular piece of legislation to go after what somebody did in the past.
01:23:47.280But at a place like NRR, we expect there to be a piece on the other side.
01:23:51.460Like, half of the Republican Party is MAGA or loyal to Trump.
01:23:56.160And then there are the establishment types.
01:23:57.800And what – you know, you can't just have – thankfully, they did get John Yoo on there recently to defend some of the Trump immigration actions.
01:24:04.780But they've been extremely hard on Trump with the tariffs and the immigration.
01:24:08.880And I did want to ask you what you thought about the lawfare, Victor.
01:24:15.280Just now, just as we were coming to air, we got this.
01:24:19.280The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, I believe it was an en banc panel, meaning all of them came and sat.
01:24:25.420But they basically said these two leaders of federal boards who were fired by Trump – one was on the NLRB and one was on something called the Merit Systems Protection Board – he fired them.
01:24:39.540And they sued saying, you don't have the power to fire us.
01:24:43.200And long story short, Trump – he just lost.
01:24:47.400The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals on bancs said, you didn't have the power to do this.
01:24:51.660The Supreme Court's going to have to decide, and this, too, is getting funneled up to the Supreme Court.
01:24:56.740So every single thing – he's every single executive order, they're trying to stop it dead in its tracks, Victor, by clogging it up in lawfare.
01:25:08.260Yeah, they filed more in the first month than they did – than all lawyers did in the four years of the Biden term.
01:25:14.940So you have about three to four hundred of these 750 district judges, and they are the refined version of the Tesla stuff, the disrupting the joint session of Congress if you're Al Green, or the antics of making videos with smut mouth threats, kickboxing.
01:25:34.100All of that stuff is the street theater.
01:25:36.380And then the other side is this stuff, cherry-picking Obama or Biden-appointed judges to delay, delay, delay, and then hope that you can, as Robert Mueller did, eat up a year or two years of the Trump term, fighting, fighting, fighting all this.
01:25:53.840The weird thing is that we saw that in almost all these cases, these liberal judges, they kind of mirror-image the lawfare that went out – just as we saw Ingeron was very biased.
01:26:06.180We saw that Mershon's daughter kind of gripped it off her father.
01:26:13.940And, you know, Judge Furman, I think his brother was an advisor, an economic advisor to the Biden administration.
01:26:20.260I think Judge Bozberg has people in his family that are in very left-wing activist groups.
01:26:30.040So the more that they can establish – these judges can establish that they're very left-wing, either their familiar relationships or themselves, the more they're likely to be picked out.
01:26:42.200And now they've gone – it's all gone to their head.
01:26:44.800And some of them are more powerful than the national security advisor, the secretary of state.
01:26:50.320They are exercising U.S. national security policy right now.
01:26:54.320They are determining what a president can do vis-a-vis relations with foreign countries, even.
01:27:00.040And it's gone to their head, and they really have an impression of themselves that's not warranted.
01:27:04.860And it won't stop until Justice Roberts and the Supreme Court say this is enough.
01:27:12.920And if they don't stop it, these people on the left never realize that it can be done to them just as easily.
01:27:20.720And the Republicans did it a little bit.
01:27:31.300And then when they were in the minority, he filibustered Judge Alito's appointment.
01:27:37.480They don't have a consistent philosophy, really, other than whatever the right does, we're going to oppose and make the necessary adjustments to fit the case.
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01:32:27.760She donated $51.80 in 2022 while in America to a U.S.-based nonprofit that helps children and the elderly who have been impacted by the war in Ukraine.
01:32:40.460Vladimir Putin increased the penalties for treason back in 2023, and Russian authorities took her into custody in January of last year while she was visiting her elderly grandmother, her first visit to the country in three years.
01:32:56.860And before you knew it, she was in jail first for some ridiculous charge, and then they said she had committed treason with that $50 donation.
01:33:27.100She's been sentenced to a dozen years in a Russian prison.
01:33:30.240The State Department tells our show that the U.S. government has officially designated Ksenia as wrongfully detained.
01:33:36.080That's a good designation for her to get because it means they will work for her release.
01:33:40.920And now we believe the Trump administration is.
01:33:43.820But a source close to the situation tells us Ksenia is having numerous health problems as she endures reportedly horrific work conditions at a penal colony over 1,000 miles east of Moscow.
01:33:57.960Luckily, Ksenia has a fighter literally fighting for her.
01:34:06.760And Chris is a former international boxing organization, welterweight champion, who retired from the sport last year to work full-time on Ksenia's release.
01:34:16.440Here's a video he narrated at FreeKsenia.com.
01:34:20.280There's a proverb in the Bible that talks about making plans, but recognizing that God has the final vote.
01:38:25.520So they held on to her cell phone, and it was on her Venmo receipts that they saw she had made this donation while in America as an American citizen to 50 bucks to help children and the elderly displaced by the Ukraine war.
01:38:40.620And they said that that was, in fact, a $50 donation to pay for weapons?
01:39:02.520And we now know within the three weeks from January 2nd to January 27th, they investigated every single thing on her cell phone.
01:39:12.860This is where they came across the Venmo, $51 on Venmo, charged her for treason, funding the enemy state.
01:39:19.700That's what she was charging for, funding the enemy state, buying weapons.
01:39:24.540And if you know, I started laughing and crying at the same time, because I was like, if you know my Ksenia, she is the sweetest, kindest person you'll meet.
01:39:37.400She goes out of her way to do good for people.
01:39:43.180So you can imagine elderly people, young kids, without food and water.
01:39:48.620She would be the first to donate money.
01:39:51.300And I remember listening to these charges they charged her with and how the Russian media proclaims or the portrait they sculpt for the Russian audience is bogus.
01:40:07.420Like, for example, she was charged for hooliganism, for attacking two male officers.
01:40:18.920Ksenia has got a soft heart, sweetheart, cries easily.
01:40:22.480She doesn't have a bad bone in her body.
01:40:25.340So when I heard that, it broke my heart.
01:40:29.120So, yeah, originally they said they arrested her for hooliganism, as you pointed out, and then they upgraded the charge to state treason.
01:40:38.740So she's been slapped with this crazy charge of treason.
01:40:43.180She's just there to see her grandmother and she gets a Russian lawyer, which I imagine one has to do in order to fight charges by the Russian authorities.