00:10:11.960I was upset that none of my medical training
00:10:14.140did anything for me to help me get better.
00:10:16.760And so I remember consciously making a decision morally and professionally that I had to investigate for the sake of my own understanding and moreover for patients because I couldn't see anything in the Internet.
00:10:29.660There was nothing in my medical training that explained how my erectile dysfunction, how my prostate shrank, how I went from peeing five times a night in the middle of the night to nothing, and how those precancerous lesions went away.
00:10:43.440My gastroenterologist couldn't explain it.
00:14:38.920You know, they would reduce their healthcare costs
00:14:42.020that many corporations are burdened by.
00:14:45.340The second highest amount of cost to a corporation
00:14:48.340behind salaries and wages is actually healthcare costs
00:14:52.220for a self-insured company and so it gives me great hope that america uh will eventually embrace
00:15:00.080this even even though it's not taught yet in medical schools the corporations are going to
00:15:05.540find out about it and they'll say by golly we're going to pay for visceral fat education and
00:15:11.280elimination our employees so that productivity goes up and what a great what a great objective
00:15:17.600I mean, think about improving productivity across America.
00:15:21.040We in America are to blame for chronic disease because we introduce processed foods and then we spread it all over the globe, leading to disease all over our lifestyles and our diet.
00:15:34.720We need to redeem ourselves and share these insights about this dangerous disease, this disease process that for the most part, nobody has any idea that they have inside of them.
00:15:47.600Can you tell us about the coroner who called you?
00:18:52.300And so society teaches you that you need to be thin and glamorous and to have a six-pack.
00:18:58.640But the reality, I think I'm the only physician except for physicians that train with me and learn about these fat depots and learn that the relationship, as you eliminate that fat on your body and then you proudly display a six-pack, you are accelerating your exposure to disease.
00:19:15.620And we see higher amounts of fat around the heart.
00:19:18.500We see more visceral fat, more fat in the muscles.
00:19:21.260And the bodybuilders, you know, are also championing this.
00:19:26.080They die young a lot, the bodybuilders.
00:19:29.320The latest study came out from sudden cardiac death shows that in just amateur bodybuilders,
00:19:35.780their rate of mortality from sudden cardiac death is 10 to 15 times that of an average person.
00:19:42.880These are ostensibly healthy people lifting weights.
00:19:45.820But if you're a professional bodybuilder, even more aggressive about eliminating that fat, your risk for mortality for sudden cardiac death is 90 to 180 times greater.
00:20:05.120It's the most dangerous sport and profession in the world is bodybuilding at a professional level in terms of what it does to your health.0.99
00:20:13.860But the scary thing is a lot of women are getting involved in that, and there's CrossFit.
00:20:19.920And I see a lot of female clients that come to me and people online have shared how they fell into this body image of having a six-pack like the guys.
00:20:30.340And then they confided to me that it gave them a dude face.
00:20:34.080They got a masculine-looking face, and their voices became emasculated.
00:20:42.000And if your audience just goes on the internet and starts looking for photographs, Googling or using AI to find photographs of women with six-packs abs, very often their faces are cut off or their faces are blocked.
00:20:57.040But if you see their faces, they're not as attractive.
00:21:00.140And women have written to me that they've had procedures where they've had tummy tucks and liposuction and they've removed the fat on their abdomen trying to get that sculptured look.
00:21:12.000And then they express regret because it changed their face.
00:21:15.640They're not telling women that they lose their pretty faces.
00:21:19.400And women need to have attractive faces.1.00
00:21:22.320Women influence culture, and they have a role in society, and their face plays a role.1.00
00:21:29.140And so does a man, but it's a little different way.
00:21:31.460But all the studies show that attractive people, people who are deemed attractive by whatever your societal standards are, do better in life.
00:21:41.300it's just they do they use that to use that term and i know you don't like influence they're better
00:21:46.400influencers and so by that term i mean their ability to help whoever they're dealing with
00:21:54.280understand the information that they're trying to convey so for example you are healthy your
00:22:00.660level of fat was way lower than most people most average people you do have disease inside of you
00:22:06.480But because you have a lower amount and you have the best amount I have actually seen of any social media podcast hosts that I've ever been with and done this before.
00:22:45.540And people want, biologically, they don't understand, your audience doesn't really understand how wired their brains are to pay attention to the appearance of people and their performance so that they can live better.
00:23:21.260Even thin people can get more shredded.
00:23:24.540Like you can see the muscles come out, but not like obnoxiously, but just more ripped.
00:23:29.140And the biggest benefit, I think, well, I would argue, on top of just being healthier or you're going to live longer, ideally, is you feel better.
00:23:41.260You have been making the case, Kennedy has made the case, you feel much more mentally acute.
00:24:54.540All right. So now let's go through it because the number one thing I'm thinking that the audience wants to know, because it was the number one thing I wanted to know when I heard about this was, what about LDL? You eat red meat all day and we'll talk about it, but like some dairy and cheeses and eggs, like actual eggs with yolks.
00:25:16.000And, you know, we can all feel our cholesterol going up, which every doctor on Earth, the American Heart Association, do a Google search on this, will all tell you if it's high, it's going to kill you.
00:25:49.420And so virtually every conversation you have with your doctor is dominated by discussion of cholesterol and LDL and these markers and metrics associated with it.
00:25:59.940However, keep in mind LDL, cholesterol, these are natural molecules that are made in your body.
00:26:10.040Your body utilizes cholesterol, needs cholesterol, makes it to create cell membranes, to build hormones.
00:26:18.520You can't even have a hormone without cholesterol.
00:26:21.680So just from the premise that we're giving medicine to try to lower something that your body is making should give people a little pause and wonder if that's the very best strategy that we ought to be having our conversations with providers dominated by.
00:26:38.920But here's my opinion. I really think the discussion about cholesterol and LDL has been hijacked and really engineered socially by the powers to be in the system.
00:26:53.280And I don't want to get into conspiratorial kind of discussions, but the system that is behind the largest part of economy, which is health care, it dwarfs oil.
00:27:03.160You know, oil is nothing compared to health care.
00:27:07.680And by the way, it's increasing at about twice the rate of our GPI.
00:27:13.080So basically, if you're smart with numbers, we are medically bankrupt as a nation because
00:29:37.700I've left working in emergency medicine.
00:29:40.500I work with people that wanna look better
00:29:42.540and perform better and function better.
00:29:44.560And I could follow any metric in the world, but I don't follow LDI and cholesterol.
00:29:50.860I follow these disease processes because nothing in my seven years of research and since I've been doing it now for 13 years have I found that's more valuable for a human being to work on, to improve how they look, how they perform, how they live, than getting rid of this disease.
00:30:09.200And so it's high time that it gets added back or gets added into the curriculums of medical schools.
00:30:16.260And by the way, the curriculums of medical schools in America are followed around the world.
00:30:23.820I mean, we have carried this concealment of this disease process to all the medical schools around the country.
00:30:32.080You know, the country, it's not like you go to, you know, physicians in India or Bangladesh or Qatar, know anything about this.
00:41:19.940I do. I mean, I love Secretary Kennedy because he put in our national guidelines. God bless this man.
00:41:27.620I don't know of a politician that did something more important than Secretary Kennedy.
00:41:33.420Putting in fermented foods, recommending it to Americans, and also to emphasize the microbiome.
00:41:39.920These are going to have enormous contributions to our country if Americans adopt this and listen to this great leader.
00:41:49.820Wait, I completely agree. Love him. But you are going to make the point. Michaela Peterson is doing the lion diet. So she's with ruminant meat and salt. That's not this diet, though, because you allow more than ruminant.
00:42:02.220No. So ruminant meat, this red meat, does help because it's eliminating processed foods.
00:42:10.740So you don't eat any processed foods and also vegetables.
00:42:15.040So what we're finding out, now hold on, everybody's going to get upset at me, particularly plant-based.
00:42:20.200I take care of people that are vegans, okay, and I get them well.
00:42:24.320But there are certain nutrients and certain elements inside plants that I would describe
00:46:29.860So really, it's something that the average consumer needs to find out about, but you want to strengthen your diversity of your microbiome by eating a variety.
00:46:39.220One of the worst things you can do, it's a very elementary form of approaching the microbiome in fermented foods, is just eat one brand of sauerkraut, one little jar.
00:46:52.780You want to eat about – in my refrigerator, I have about 20 to 30 different varieties of fermented foods, and I'm always adding to them.
00:47:02.560And when I travel and I go to different areas like I did up here, I get the local ferments in this area because we are maybe professionals.
00:47:15.840I'm a physician, but biologically, we're all hunter-gatherers.
00:47:20.360And so we would roam following migratory patterns of animals.
00:47:24.680And when we roamed, we would collect the microbes in that area when we drank the water from the streams, rivers, and lakes 50,000 years ago.
00:47:33.260And when we hunted those animals, the microbes from that animal literally were transferred to us in two ways.
00:47:43.120We would process that meat, field dressing, and there was no disinfectant, Megan.
00:47:48.200We didn't have sterilized USDA-inspected facilities where meat was processed.
00:47:56.140The microbes from the fur of the animal and the gut of that animal were transferred to the meat.
00:48:01.980We would eat it, and it would empower us.
00:48:05.040And our ancestors were so vigilant and so observant, like my coroner friend, Dr. Rosales, who picked up this visceral fat inside people cause disease.
00:48:17.000our ancestors picked up that the healthiest bison made us healthier and better performing.
00:48:24.480And when you took that skin off that animal and you put it into another human being to wear his
00:48:30.220clothing, they got better. But if you hunted like a lame animal, an animal that was like a downer
00:48:37.340or something, you know, like predators hunt, whatever's easy, the old and the lame, we have
00:48:41.980cortex we we we have higher levels of thinking we can learn patterns so we saw that the most
00:48:48.500majestic animals you know in a herd conferred through the skin made humans better or if you
00:48:55.160hunted the the lower ones it made you worse our ancestors could pick up on that and that's why
00:49:01.400adornment became popular i think and to this day people would pay pay attention to clothes because
00:49:08.920biologically we would see this really oppressive animal fur and say, oh my God, she must be a
00:49:18.000mighty hunter. Look at that skin, you know, animal fur that she wears on her clothing, or1.00
00:49:24.580she must be very important to somebody who conferred that majestic animal skin to her.
00:49:32.740And so we have this legacy of adornment, but today it's very different. You see,
00:49:37.160you can go buy that and you could you could be a you know i hate to use this term a loser and you
00:49:42.880could go buy you know fancy clothes and you think you're better made by your clothes in the old days
00:49:48.600it literally made you better and it was a sign of accomplishment but today we've lost that but
00:49:54.620you so but so you're you started this by saying you go when you travel and you get the ferments
00:49:58.720from the local towns because the the more wide and variety you can introduce the better um when
00:50:05.840it comes to the ferments, but I, I like, before we get to the specifics of the diet and I got
00:50:11.040ahead of us, like, I want to talk about like the bare minimum, because I was reading up on you in
00:50:17.080addition to our interviews that are behind the scenes talks. And it seems like the number one
00:50:22.540thing, if you want to do like the mini, mini Sean O'Mara, you would eliminate every processed food
00:50:29.880from your life. Like I would, that is not negotiable. I would. You're going to do the baby
00:50:33.960hey, Sean, you are going to do that. And I'm so glad you asked that question. So if you're
00:50:37.080listening today and you're wondering, how do I get started? We'll take a look at this one
00:50:41.420particular study we did for the National Science Foundation. So this is the first time in the
00:50:48.820history of humanity this was done. And it's the only time in the history of humanity this was
00:50:54.280done and see the red it all goes away in 35 weeks substantially and the dark muscles grew
00:51:03.620so they lost visceral fat they grew muscle in 35 weeks and are you ready for this the only thing
00:51:11.100they did was they cut out processed foods wow they didn't add in anything else they didn't even
00:51:16.640add fermented foods it was one man who was he was a 70 year old man who was a ceo of a company
00:51:24.160and he did not exercise, ready for this, one minute.
00:51:28.160All he did was cut out processed foods.
00:56:01.240You know, sugar, we notice that people eliminate this fat, visceral fat disease in their abdomens around the heart the fastest when they cut out carbohydrates and then just eat fat and protein.
00:56:13.780So sugars, carbohydrates attract species of microbes that preferentially put down fat, fatty disease around your heart in your abdomen rather than your subcutaneous skin where you should be storing that.
00:56:28.140And I said to you, well, I really like my ice cream.
00:57:45.020So it's the sight, the smell, and the taste.1.00
00:57:48.400So these microbes are wired into our central nervous system and you would fight like Katie's.
00:57:54.640I always tell people, if I came across that table, put my hands around your neck and started choking, you'd become a wild woman and fight like crazy for your life.
00:58:03.660The same thing are these microbes inside of you.
00:58:06.240When they see something that is threatening them, like their host is about to eat fermented foods, they make them hate them.
00:58:12.200So I tell my clients that have an aversion where they feel, you know, this repulsion to fermented foods, to take a little butter knife, dip it in a little bit of kimchi juice, a little of the juice around the fermented vegetables, put it in a glass of non-chlorinated water, just one little drop.
01:03:44.500And, you know, particularly politicians who have a lot of stress, they build up cortisol, which feeds visceral fat inside of them, and it shrinks the fat on the outside.
01:03:56.120So they tend to have lower amounts of the beneficial superficial subcutaneous fat, and they have higher amounts of the fatty disease around their heart and in their abdomen and their muscles.
01:04:07.360And this deteriorates their appearance and their ability to influence.
01:04:11.880So as you get older, you actually should get more attractive.
01:04:15.140Like looking at the examples of other politicians, many of them have gone on this diet and improved their appearance.
01:04:24.500As they've gotten rid of visceral fat, their faces improve.
01:04:28.640And so because their faces improve, you actually – like the example that happened to Joe Biden and President Trump I like to give.
01:04:38.620Now, we don't have the benefit of MRIs to see what happened.
01:04:41.880But this is the election at 2020, and this is 2024.
01:04:46.320And President Biden looked pretty good.
01:07:41.420I've worked with thousands of people now, and they've reported to me.
01:07:45.380I used to never ask them to stop drinking alcohol, and sometimes I would.
01:07:50.280But now it just happens as they start eating fermented foods and they improve their diet and they do the other things that we have them doing to eliminate disease.
01:08:01.600Their health improves so much, their microbiome improves so much, they lose all attraction for alcohol.
01:08:07.640The healthy human being doesn't drink alcohol, doesn't have an attraction for it.
01:08:13.000And so alcohol is one of those things and other vices.
01:08:16.260I sometimes I feel like I'm almost a Catholic priest because these clients come back to me, tell me, I didn't tell you this before, father, but I was addicted to gambling.
01:13:38.580And the healthier the chickens, the healthier the eggs.
01:13:41.460So ideally, you should buy eggs if you can from a farmer that has them out pastured where they're out eating bugs and less, not grains, poultry in the wild, fowl, game fowl.
01:14:35.600When you – fermentation is the only processing that I can think of as a physician and a scientist and a researcher that actually improves the form of food.
01:14:47.380And so when you ferment dairy, you're actually improving.
01:14:51.240You're increasing the nutrient value and you're adding to the microbial value, these living microbes.
01:14:56.160And the ones that are more old world and more stinkier and smellier like blue cheeses and roqueforts and gargonzolas have higher levels of colony forming units and metabolites.
01:15:09.640These little tiny signals, these little tiny peptides that are now the darling of big pharma and you see it just blowing up all over the internet, these peptides.
01:19:37.740So I tell my clients, the enemy tastes sweet.
01:19:42.160Now, you might think you're giving up a lot by giving up sweet things.
01:19:46.400I don't know a human being in the world that enjoys steak and ferments better than Sean O'Meara.
01:19:52.340It is like better than any trip to Walt Disney World that I've ever had.
01:19:56.780And it's every single day that I eat is the most unbelievable experience I could have during the day because that food tastes so extraordinarily good.
01:20:07.860My microbiome is all in on the very best strategies for optimizing.
01:20:12.720And eventually it happens to my clients over a period of time.
01:20:15.580So as you do this, you'll get more and more excited about eating.
01:20:20.820you will laugh and be appalled. Did you ever ate ice cream at some point?
01:20:25.860I'm looking forward to that. Now, we should talk about what you just said,
01:20:29.820every day that I'm eating, because you are not eating every day. Fasting is a part of this diet.
01:20:37.620I'm sorry to break it to you at home, because I think fasting is so hard. I was telling you,
01:20:43.580I used to do the 16-8 fast, and even the 16 for me, I thought as a woman, was particularly hard.
01:20:49.820those last two hours and then I did hear some conventional wisdom that women shouldn't go 16
01:20:54.720you were like not only should you go 16 you you should go three maybe even four days and then I
01:21:02.700said to Sean women women should go four days and he said when the men couldn't find the bison what
01:21:07.980do you think the women were doing yeah no one was eating the males or the females yeah so it's
01:21:13.220absolutely talk about the fast and by the way I forgot to ask you something important is that
01:21:17.220every week you don't fast four days a week every week do you i i fast typically um i used to fast
01:21:23.640three or four days every single week so literally like half the month i was fasting i still kind of
01:21:29.900do that now but i do even longer fast like five days so look at this lady's uh face uh who is
01:21:37.340kind enough to allow us to to share her photograph how much she improved her face so um this is over
01:21:43.760a six-month period of time, this lady adopted meat and microbes, the living diet, and also
01:21:50.280started fasting. So when you fast, you eliminate structural disease in your body and the influence1.00
01:21:56.920in your face. So you get this gorgeous appearance to your face. A lot of women are afraid to come
01:22:02.220to me. They think that only work with these, you know, studly males, tough guys. But women get1.00
01:22:07.840these beautiful results where they have fantastic results. So biology knows no difference between1.00
01:22:14.600men and women in terms of lifestyle. The healthier the food you eat, the healthier your lifestyle
01:22:19.180is available for men and women. Let's just say it's three days because four days
01:22:24.160sounds insane to me. Maybe it won't six months away. It took years for me to get up to that.
01:22:29.040I eased into it. What should I do right now as a baby, Sean, disciple?
01:22:35.700So I tell people to ease into fasting because the scariest thing for me right now is Megyn Kelly goes on a three-day fast, hates it, feels super weak, and they said, I tried fasting, and it didn't work.
01:22:50.280That comes on the show, says, that sucks.
01:23:01.520You've got decades of quality living ahead of you, so ease into it.
01:23:05.000Now, a little tip, our ancestors, when they didn't get a bison, would go drink from creeks, rivers, lakes, glaciers, and they knew the gray-haired women and the gray-haired men, the alphas, the leadership of a clan, knew which particular stream to drink that would reduce their hunger.
01:23:25.540And so these microbes have a capacity literally of increasing GLP-1.
01:23:32.860And so GLP-1 is this natural endogenous peptide that causes satiety.
01:23:39.180So today we can't drink rivers and lakes, but here's what we're going to find out.
01:23:44.720I am now experimenting and it's going to come out with certain strains of bacteria, probiotics
01:23:51.200that you will take and also postbiotics.
01:23:54.840Postbiotics are what probiotic microbiota, these species of microbes, produce.
01:24:00.700So they're pieces basically of the living microbes.
01:24:05.020They signal you that you're no longer hungry.
01:24:08.940And so even though you didn't get a bison that day in the hunt, you're not hungry and you still have energy.
01:24:15.460So what does that mean for you today, 2026?
01:24:18.360You'll probably be getting, I've already given some to you,
01:24:21.820certain species of postbiotics that you can take, probiotics rather, and postbiotics,
01:24:27.660and they will reduce your hunger and allow you to fast without any hunger pains,
01:24:32.820without food noise, without cravings for food.
01:24:36.080So my clients, the longest I've seen a client fast,
01:24:39.64010 days with these particular strains of microbiota.
01:24:43.420And I can't say what they are because we want them to be manufactured and available for all Americans to take.
01:24:49.680So we're in the process of trying to do that, work through that.
01:24:52.640But it will be in the future that you'll be taking these strains of microbiota.
01:24:56.520They will dust all of the medications that are out there because they're going to treat the underlying infection the Big Puff Pharma doesn't treat.
01:25:05.380So for the listening audience, though, like what can they do before they get the special probiotics?
01:25:10.540Like, can they, what, shoot, what's a realistic goal?
01:25:13.780One day a week to go just go 24 hours without eating?
01:25:17.640Try going, you know, a lot of people should be able to do at least 18 to 24 hours, see
01:32:02.540And this is why you want to be selective.
01:32:03.820Yeah. You know, and I also tell people, look, you can't always find grass fed when you go to restaurants. I eat at McDonald's. I do. It's not great quality meat, but it's way better than pasta. I just don't eat the buns and the ketchups and all the other things that are added to it. And I bring ferments with me. I remember going on a vacation with my wife. I'm a retired army guy. I'm not a wealthy guy.
01:32:28.260So, you know, we're out eating at McDonald's, my wife, you know, I'm 62 years old then, you know, and we're eating at McDonald's and we're getting rid of the buns and I'm dumping the ferments on the McDonald's patties.
01:32:42.820And that was our date night while we're out on this whole vacation.
01:32:46.020Or you could potentially have like a white fish or some sort of cut of fish.
01:32:50.900And ideally, I like wild caught because they tend, you know, the farmed variety of seafood, they feed a lot of grains just like they do with cattle.
01:33:02.000So they're dumping stuff into these farm ponds that they have all this fish in.
01:33:07.760And sometimes even when they're out in the ocean, they pretend like, you know, that's a healthier version.
01:33:12.560They might get a little bit more healthier water.
01:33:14.980but then they're still feeding grains and carbs and all this unnatural diet to these0.98
01:33:20.060farmed fish. And sometimes there are better operations, but I just think you need to be
01:33:25.420a lot more selective about the food you eat whenever you can, especially at home.
01:33:29.580You can go shop. You can find the very best foods, shopping online and your local grocery
01:33:35.900supplier, bring that home. And then on occasion, if you have to go out, eat a little grass-fed
01:33:41.500beef or grain-fed beef, bring some ferments with you. And when you go to your neighbor's house
01:33:47.060or your family members, don't dive down to their level. Be the hero. Be the champion
01:33:53.640in your family's life and in your neighbor's house. And you show them that you eat differently.
01:34:00.320You eat better. And it's real for you. Don't compromise your health. So it's an opportunity
01:36:22.060you should be aware of too, is I call it prime the pump.
01:36:25.460If you haven't eaten in like four days,
01:36:28.440Most people, when they return to eating, they can have a hyperarysmotic effect where they put food in until their GI tract gets acclimated to it.
01:37:49.860omelets with, you know, aged cheddar cheese and some blue cheese and some ferments. Oh my gosh,
01:37:56.880to wake up and have that is just so sustaining and beneficial. And so every meal is a little
01:38:03.060bit different because there's so many varieties of fermented foods that you eat, yogurts and
01:38:08.320kefirs and different forms of fermented vegetables and fermented fruit. So I do eat fruit, but only
01:38:17.700if it's fermented. I have my clients back off of fruit because of the fructose and the fruit sugars
01:38:24.700that are in there. We noticed when we had people eat fermented fruit and cut out regular fruit
01:38:30.700that the fat around the heart went away a lot faster. And vegans that don't eat any meat,
01:38:36.880they do lose fat around their heart and they lose visceral fat if they add in fermented vegetables.
01:38:42.800So if they're eating a predominantly plant-based diet, sorry, carnivores, the plant-based people are losing visceral fat when they stay vegan if they add in fermented foods.
01:38:56.260But in all honesty, they lose it slower.
01:38:59.860But they're losing it, and the rest of America is gaining it.
01:39:03.520So vegans who add in fermented foods do better than Americans who are eating a standard American diet.
01:39:17.080You know, they don't have to, but, you know, they seem to prefer to have some fresh vegetables that aren't fermented.
01:39:26.800And so they eat broccoli and other things that haven't been fermented.
01:39:30.500On that front, and I want to ask you lunch too, but on that front, one of the first things you said to me is there's no cheating on this diet.
01:39:36.660so like if you were weak and you wanted to have a salad you shouldn't but like why what is that
01:39:46.580going to throw the whole thing off so the the cheating with the salad is not going to be bad
01:39:51.660as cheating with raisins and then you add in honey and uh and then you add in a sweet a salad dressing
01:40:00.540with sugar in it, that's more of a cheating that's problematic. If you just ate lettuce or
01:40:07.800some arugula, it's really as a very, very small amount of these anti-nutrients and microtoxins,
01:40:16.680not realistically a huge threat. It's oftentimes when it comes to salads, the accoutrements and
01:40:23.160the condiments and other things are coming along. We've had some people say on the show that
01:40:27.420sourdough bread is not bad for you because it's got a lower glycemic index it is very bad for you
01:40:34.020it's just not as bad that's what this physician research when people come to me and they take
01:40:40.080sourdough bread they always have visceral fat and heart fat and when i show that to them and they
01:40:47.580get very upset they eliminate it and then that heart fat and visceral fat goes away it honest
01:40:54.020to god correlates because it's still carbohydrates it's still processed it's dead bread it may have
01:41:01.480had some living microbes in it at some point but when you bake it it's dead and so those beneficial
01:41:07.280microbes are no longer present in there again if you are doing the starter sean you are eliminating
01:41:12.840processed foods which will include bread pasta obviously sugars ice cream etc yes um you the
01:41:22.740bare bones version of this could be meats and what like if you had to give them not the full
01:41:29.820sean meat and then you know probably eating like vegetables that aren't fermented that are not like
01:41:35.800maybe add fermented too and and then yes but if you're going to be eating any vegetables that
01:41:41.740aren't fermented make sure you're comasticating including in your meal fermented vegetables
01:41:48.220But anything processed really, you should, anybody listening to your show, should be able to eliminate processed foods relatively easily and then up your amount of seafood and meat and vegetables if you really want to add in vegetables and you want to take a slow kind of junior approach, a Dr. Sean light approach to this diet.
01:42:12.580Just for people who think I can't do it. I can't, you know, I know a lot of people are thinking it's too extreme. I can't do it. But maybe you could try the intro version. And then if you do okay on that, the real version might not seem too undoable.
01:42:27.600Now, wait, there's a lot more to discuss, including drinking.
01:47:58.080It's a way better source of water to drink from rather than drinking the processed kind.
01:48:03.540Even RO that helps to eliminate chlorine.
01:48:07.120I have yet to find a single RO that completely eliminates chlorine.
01:48:11.600And chlorine is disruptive on your microbiome because we add it to water to keep bacteria from growing in there to kill bacteria.
01:48:18.880But the downside to it is it doesn't just finish its job when it's in the pipes coming from some municipal treatment center.
01:48:26.920It gets delivered into a microbiome where it disrupts oftentimes the elegant, beautiful, beneficial microbes that help fight disease and keep us healthy and living better.
01:48:37.360So you're drinking 100% of your water out of a bottle you got from Europe?
02:00:37.980And two hours later, I'm peeing green from that grass-fed, grass-finished liver.
02:00:42.920When we went to Scandinavia, we went to a farmer's house for a lunch, the whole family. And I don't eat fish. I just don't like it. I never have. And it was all fish. We forgot to ask what the menu would be. And I was like right on the water in Norway. And it was all fish, which it was like, okay, fine. I was making my way through it with a polite bite here or there.
02:01:04.440and then she brought out this fish that was like in the shape of a bell i don't know it had been
02:01:09.020like formed and it was fried and uh one of my kids asked how how did you make this and the woman the
02:01:16.260mom this norwegian woman you know stout sturdy lady was like oh we put the whole fish in the
02:01:22.680blender and we just blend it up and then we use the cookie cutter thing to make the shape i was
02:01:27.820like, is anyone else sweating? I think I need to step outside. Just the thought of a freaking
02:01:35.860blended fish. I'm not sure I'm going to make this. Anyway, blended livers, not quite that bad,
02:01:45.220but it's up there. You should have shared that with Chevy Chase for a new vacation movie.
02:01:49.000Yes, it was that level. All right, let me go through a couple of other things. I know I'm
02:01:54.180jumping all over the place now, but I only have another 40 minutes with you and I want to make
02:01:57.280account. Steve Krakauer, our executive producer, wanted to know, is there any way other than the
02:02:04.080MRI to figure out what your visceral fat is? Yeah, great question. So the other way to visualize
02:02:10.540visceral fat, and by the way, the only ways to directly visualize it is by either an MRI or CT
02:02:17.420scan. So a lot of people will report that their levels of visceral fat are X amount because they
02:10:45.140You don't have residual stool on your anus.
02:10:48.920And animals in the wild don't need toilet paper because they have a healthy, functioning anus.
02:10:54.460And your anus is a marker of how healthy you are.
02:10:59.580And when you toilet trained your kids, you taught them to wipe, and you said,
02:11:03.660Mommy says to wipe, Daddy says to wipe, and there was nothing on that toilet paper
02:11:07.140because their little anuses and their gas intestinal tracts were so healthy.
02:11:10.900And so what happens is you have a rectum, it fills with stool, the stretch receptors get triggered, it tells the host, the organism to start moving towards the bathroom, you're going to have a bowel movement, your anus is on the outside, it's actually folded in.
02:11:25.800And as you have a bowel movement, it opens up and comes, unfolds, and there's a little tiny hole that creates that little tip on the initial part of that stool, little tiny tip.
02:11:36.500And then it opens up to a preformed kind of a distance, kind of it's like a supercomputer.
02:13:27.440And then the balance would get bigger and more prominent.
02:13:29.860So there are these 60-year-old males no longer need Viagra or Cialis.
02:13:34.520They get a fantastic erection, and this little bounce eventually turns into this big bounce.
02:13:39.480And just imagine 50,000 years ago before there was the sacrament of matrimony and marriage and things, there would be males walking around.
02:19:56.340to any kind of a threat that's going on
02:19:58.320Or a tough question, when you're a litigator, you're handing somebody on a stand, you're cross-examining, you can react very quickly because to the extent you can react physically, you can react intellectually.
02:20:11.140So physiology and cognitive capabilities go together.
02:20:15.160So 15 seconds, you go out there, assuming you've built it up to this point, you go out there, 15 seconds, you start off slow, and then you go full bore.
02:21:22.620And I have one sprint or you do the five minute thing.
02:21:25.860every 30 seconds six every hour a 30 second sprint wow okay bless excuse me and i mix it up
02:21:34.460and then executives when they open up a report and the kpi and the company is doing bad drop
02:21:41.020and do push-ups or go out and do sprints 15 seconds yep you just jacked up your cortisol
02:21:46.960and what's killing americans are is unrecovered stress you just tolerate it but i i have told
02:21:54.940people that go into the white house situation room do push-ups in this situation room do push-ups
02:22:01.880in your boardroom do push it when life happens answer the stress that you get with some brief
02:22:10.200intense form of exercise and that's how you get rid of stress that is otherwise causing disease
02:22:15.760and ultimately can lead to your early demise deteriorate your face your health your performance
02:22:21.480So you look at poor Senator Mitchell today, stress from being McConnell, sorry, McConnell, the the majority leader that he had for that period of time, you accumulate all this stress and it causes cognitive decline.
02:22:35.120It happened to Joe Biden. So politicians, business executives, chairmen of the board, singers, performers, journalists running shows, you meet you get stressed.
02:22:46.680You've got to meet that stress through recovery, doing some kind of form of intense exercise.
02:24:33.540But that's why you get so short of breath in a sprint.
02:24:37.420and so you want to be sprinting if you could only do one thing you want to be able to do sprinting
02:24:43.140but do other things push-ups push-ups okay and lifting weights for how long like if you're doing
02:24:48.000push-ups just to the point of exhaustion exhaustion you can't do any more until i'm praying to god
02:24:53.020ask me to do one more dear god help me help me i go right to sheer exhaustion because that's how
02:24:58.660you fought when you were fighting for your life you don't say oh i think i'm gonna stop and die
02:25:04.600No, if you exercise in that manner with that level of intensity, you produce a higher level of myokine, which tells your body to do things, burn deadly fat and produce beneficial muscle.
02:32:26.340oftentimes they're getting a cortisol spike.
02:32:29.340And so to eliminate that, if you get some, particularly fasting can make you look crazed, crave a little more carbohydrates, want to wake up.
02:32:38.920But if you take some probiotics or drink some kimchi brine before you go to bed, you'll sleep through that and you won't do that.
02:32:47.640If you still wake up, you could have a little teaspoon of that kimchi brine, you know, it's non-caloric and a little non-chlorinated water and it'll ease you right back into sleep.