The Megyn Kelly Show - March 18, 2025


Trump vs. Judge on Alien Enemies Act Escalates, Biden Autopen Questions, Putin Call: AM Update 3⧸18


Episode Stats

Length

17 minutes

Words per Minute

161.52074

Word Count

2,804

Sentence Count

190

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

The Trump administration is doubling down on deporting more than 100 Tren de Aragua gang members from Venezuela in spite of a judge s order demanding their return to the United States. Did he know what he was doing? Did he authorize it? President Trump announces President Biden s last minute pardons signed by President Obama are null and void. And Russian President Vladimir Putin and American President Trump are expected to speak later today in hopes of securing a ceasefire in Ukraine. Senator Chuck Schumer cancels a book tour citing alleged security concerns amid reports of progressive groups planning protests of him.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Tuesday, March 18th, 2025, and this is your AM
00:00:08.740 Update. If a district court judge can be involved in the conduct of a foreign policy,
00:00:14.080 under no definition do we have a democracy in this country.
00:00:17.320 The Trump administration doubling down on deporting more than 100 Tren de Aragua gang
00:00:22.780 members from Venezuela in spite of a judge's order demanding their return to the United States.
00:00:28.720 The whole subject of Autopen, did he know what he was doing? Did he authorize it?
00:00:33.980 President Trump announcing President Biden's last-minute pardons signed by Autopen are null
00:00:40.140 and void. Is that legal? And Russian President Vladimir Putin and American President Trump
00:00:45.240 expected to speak later today in hopes of securing a ceasefire in Ukraine.
00:00:50.680 Senator Chuck Schumer cancels a book tour citing alleged security concerns amid reports of
00:00:57.220 progressive groups planning protests of him. All that and more coming up in just a moment
00:01:02.360 on your AM Update.
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00:02:05.700 A federal judge ordering the Trump administration back into court yesterday following the successful
00:02:14.660 deportation of Trenda Aragua gang members under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. The DOJ's motion to
00:02:23.460 vacate the hearing denied by D.C. District Court Judge James Bosberg. On Saturday, that judge ordering a
00:02:30.940 two-week pause on the administration's plans to conduct deportations under the Wartime Act,
00:02:37.280 which also applies in case of an invasion, stating any planes already in the air must turn around and
00:02:44.440 return to the United States. This order granted in spite of Supreme Court precedent stating that the
00:02:50.280 Alien Enemies Act does not allow judicial review of removal orders. Judge Bosberg, demanding answers
00:02:58.480 from the Trump organization on Monday as to why, he says, they did not comply with his order.
00:03:04.320 The Trump administration contends the planes were already in international territory at the time
00:03:09.320 of the order and thus out of the judge's jurisdiction. Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy Stephen Miller
00:03:15.380 explaining to reporters the administration's position this ruling is a dangerous overreach.
00:03:21.820 And if we got into a place in this country where district court judges could direct which general
00:03:26.880 on the battlefield is going to be in charge of making which decisions, could direct what
00:03:30.260 intelligence we could share. If a district court judge can be involved in the conduct of a foreign
00:03:35.500 policy, under no definition do we have a democracy in this country.
00:03:39.760 Borders are Tom Homan telling Fox Business the White House complied with the original,
00:03:44.240 narrower order from the judge.
00:03:46.220 Well, actually, we did comply with his written order on the five aliens that he didn't want deported,
00:03:51.700 and we complied with that. But look, you know, I agree with Caroline Levitt. I don't think I had
00:03:56.700 authority to have a plane of terrorists turn around in the middle of international waters and bring
00:04:02.040 terrorists back into this country. DOJ lawyers on Monday requesting the D.C. appellate court
00:04:06.840 reassign this case to another judge. Press Secretary Caroline Levitt describing some of the crimes the
00:04:12.100 Tren de Aragua deportees were involved in.
00:04:15.200 They led a multi-state sex trafficking operation involving smuggling women into the United States,
00:04:21.880 holding them in stash houses in Louisiana, Florida, New Jersey, Texas, and Virginia,
00:04:26.480 and forcing them into prostitution. And they kidnapped and murdered a 33-year-old woman in Texas.
00:04:31.740 They sexually and physically assaulted a woman and her daughter in Wisconsin. They conducted a mass
00:04:36.800 shooting in Illinois. Tren de Aragua is the same organization responsible for the rapes
00:04:41.660 and murders of little Jocelyn Nungare and 22-year-old Laken Riley. Ms. Levitt says the
00:04:48.120 government is paying El Salvador about $6 million to house these illegals on our behalf. Critics of
00:04:54.540 the administration say invoking the act poses a grave threat to American citizens.
00:04:59.600 There are U.S. citizens of Venezuelan descent who are worried that they're going to be targeted,
00:05:05.000 wrongly accused of being members of Tren de Aragua, deported without evidence, without a hearing.
00:05:11.100 A lot of them are my friends, are my neighbors. They live in Miami. And what he is doing to
00:05:15.820 Venezuelans is disgusting. But you know what? You voted for that, you're finding out.
00:05:20.860 We have to be prepared for the racial profiling of Latino boys ages 14 to 18 who right now have that
00:05:29.320 conversation with your kids because they need to know their rights in the face of what this president
00:05:33.660 is doing. The Alien Enemies Act only applies to non-citizens. Even naturalized citizens cannot be
00:05:40.520 legally deported under this act. Democrat congressman from Texas Jasmine Crockett telling
00:05:45.800 CNN the Alien Enemies Act is antiquated. The government has other ways of deporting terrorist
00:05:51.900 gang members, she says. We already have tools that are available to remove undocumented violent people
00:05:58.620 from our country. And so the idea that you want to go into a zombie law, it is the fact that we can't
00:06:04.320 trust this administration to actually use a scalpel, but instead they love to use a butcher knife on
00:06:12.000 things. And so giving them this wide latitude to just kind of go across and just claim that anybody
00:06:18.500 is anything is wrong. And so we do have courts, we do have processes, we do have laws, and we should
00:06:25.660 just go ahead and use those. Tom Homan responding to that criticism from outside the White House on Monday.
00:06:31.400 You say to those who claim you're using a 200-year-old law to circumvent due process?
00:06:36.480 An old law? Not as old as the Constitution. We still pay attention to that, don't we?
00:06:41.660 Mr. Homan vowing the deportation flights will continue.
00:06:47.780 President Trump declaring early Monday morning the pardons signed by Joe Biden's auto pen at the end of
00:06:53.740 his presidency are null and void. Mr. Trump writing on Truth Social, quote, Joe Biden did not sign them,
00:06:59.940 but more importantly, he did not know anything about them. The necessary pardoning documents
00:07:05.020 were not explained to or approved by Biden. President Trump saying the staffers who did
00:07:10.820 know about the auto pen signatures may have committed a crime. An auto pen is a mechanical
00:07:15.980 device used to replicate the president's signature with a real pen as opposed to a stamp or a digital
00:07:21.680 copy. Auto pens have been used by the White House for decades, the earliest models employed by
00:07:26.940 Thomas Jefferson. Typically, they're only used for mass communications like Christmas cards
00:07:31.400 and more routine documents. President Obama employed the auto pen twice on major pieces of legislation,
00:07:38.360 extending the Patriot Act in 2011 and again in 2013 to sign a fiscal bill. Both times the move was met
00:07:44.940 with some controversy. The questions surrounding the Biden administration's use of the auto pen
00:07:50.400 originally raised last week by the conservative Heritage Foundation. Their investigation finding the
00:07:55.840 signatures on President Biden's January 19th pardons for his family members, Dr. Fauci, General Milley,
00:08:01.980 the J6 Select Committee, all appear to be identical. Throughout the week, the Heritage Foundation's
00:08:08.140 oversight project identifying dozens more of President Biden's identical signatures on official
00:08:13.920 White House documents. Given President Biden's now widely recognized cognitive decline, President Trump
00:08:19.940 challenged the validity of any auto pen signed documents.
00:08:24.280 The whole subject of auto pen, did he know what he was doing? Did he authorize it? Or is this somebody
00:08:30.540 in an office, maybe a radical left lunatic, just signing whatever that person was?
00:08:36.120 We may use it as an example to send some young person a letter because it's nice, you know,
00:08:41.680 we get thousands and thousands of letters. But to sign pardons and all of the things that he signed with
00:08:48.040 an auto pen is disgraceful. But I would say that they're not anymore, because I'm sure Biden didn't
00:08:52.620 have any idea that it was taking place. And somebody was using an auto pen to sign off and to give
00:08:59.280 pardons. The New York Post reporting late last week, two Biden White House staffers suspected a key
00:09:06.260 aide may have abused the auto pen privileges. The staff are telling the Post, quote, everyone was
00:09:11.640 suspicious of this individual exceeding their authority when claiming to speak for the president.
00:09:16.180 There is no clarity on who actually approved what, POTUS, meaning the president, or the aide.
00:09:23.140 The Constitution does not require that a pardon be written at all, nor does it contain edicts about
00:09:28.480 signatures. If President Trump is challenging whether Mr. Biden agreed to the pardons at all,
00:09:34.220 that could lead to a legal dispute. So far, the White House has not announced any official
00:09:38.780 challenges to the pardons. President Trump acknowledged to reporters, if his claims go further,
00:09:43.240 it would be up to the courts to decide. Coming up, President Trump is set to speak with Russian
00:09:49.020 President Vladimir Putin later today, and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer cancels a book tour
00:09:54.320 citing security concerns amid reports of progressive groups planning protests at them. All that and more
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00:10:55.540 Later today, President Trump set to speak with Russian President Vladimir Putin in the ongoing
00:11:03.760 negotiations toward a ceasefire in Ukraine. In recent weeks, President Trump more open to
00:11:08.820 discussing some concessions that will have to come from the Russians. The president providing
00:11:13.500 some details on board Air Force One. I'll be speaking to President Putin on Tuesday.
00:11:19.160 What sort of concessions will you be seeking to have Putin make to get a deal done?
00:11:24.400 Well, I think we'll, you know, be talking about land. It's a lot of land. It's a lot different
00:11:30.260 than it was before the wars, you know. And we'll be talking about land. We'll be talking about power of
00:11:35.480 lands. That's, you know, that's a big question. But I think we have a lot of it already discussed
00:11:43.240 very much by both sides. Ukraine and Russia. We're already talking about that, dividing up
00:11:52.220 certain assets. Mr. Putin will reportedly be seeking ironclad guarantees that Ukraine will not
00:11:58.460 be allowed to join NATO. Mr. Trump has repeatedly stated that will not happen. No word yet on what
00:12:04.060 such guarantees might look like. Russian officials also stating their opposition to NATO observers
00:12:09.440 deploying to Ukraine. President Trump has expressed openness to sending French and British forces as
00:12:15.460 peacekeepers after the war. President Trump believes those forces, in combination with U.S. economic
00:12:20.820 investment in Ukraine, will be more than enough to thwart further Russian aggression. Press Secretary
00:12:26.640 Caroline Levitt describing the negotiations as on the 10-yard line. Mr. Trump has recently floated the use
00:12:32.700 of sanctions against the Russians if necessary to speed along negotiations.
00:12:40.560 President Trump putting Iran on notice. Any further shots fired from Houthi rebels will be considered
00:12:45.920 shots fired by Iran. The Houthis are a rebel group in Yemen that have been engaged in a civil war since they
00:12:53.140 took over the capital in 2014. Their rallying cry is reportedly death to America, death to Israel, a curse upon
00:13:00.520 the Jews, victory to Islam. Hmm. President Trump writing on Truth Social, Iran is, quote,
00:13:06.660 dictating every move, giving them the weapons, supplying them with money and highly sophisticated
00:13:11.940 military equipment and even so-called intelligence. The president warning Iranian leadership consequences
00:13:18.280 of aiding the Houthis will be dire. The group stepping up attacks on ships in the Red Sea, which connects the
00:13:24.400 Mediterranean to the Indian Ocean shortly after the October 7th, 2023 attack on Israel. Secretary of State
00:13:31.160 Marco Rubio says in that time, the Houthis have attacked U.S. warships 174 times and commercial vessels
00:13:38.000 145 times. The group recently threatening to ramp up attacks even more. On Saturday, President Trump ordering
00:13:45.020 strikes on the rebel group, the initial wave of strikes taking out more than 30 targets at multiple
00:13:50.320 locations. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth warning the group their fate is in their own hands.
00:13:56.820 This campaign is about freedom of navigation and restoring deterrence. The minute the Houthis say
00:14:03.220 we'll stop shooting at your ships, we'll stop shooting at your drones, this campaign will end. But until then,
00:14:09.460 it will be unrelenting. The Red Sea is one of the most important global shipping lanes. According to the
00:14:15.500 White House, before Houthi attacks, 25,000 merchant ships passed through the Red Sea annually, that number
00:14:22.020 declining to about 10,000 thanks to Houthi threats. The alternative route is three times as long, forcing
00:14:28.880 ships to travel all the way around Africa, driving up shipping prices and wait times. President Trump
00:14:33.980 says the offensive is not just good for America, it's good for the world. Senate Minority Leader Chuck
00:14:42.200 Schumer postponing his book tour as activist groups and some Democrat lawmakers condemn his vote to
00:14:48.960 keep the government open. Senator Schumer was scheduled to appear in Baltimore, Washington, New York City,
00:14:55.140 Philly, and L.A. to promote his new book, Anti-Semitism in America, a warning. A representative
00:15:01.520 stating, quote, due to recent security concerns, Senator Schumer's book events are being rescheduled. NBC
00:15:09.140 reporting the New York event was supposed to be a conversation between the senator and New York
00:15:13.100 Congressman Richie Torres. Mr. Torres openly criticizing Mr. Schumer's decision to advance
00:15:18.120 the continuing resolution on the budget, posting on X, quote, bailing out the Republicans without
00:15:23.780 extracting anything in return is political malpractice. Specific security threats were not cited, though the
00:15:30.960 Soros-backed progressive group Indivisible had planned protests surrounding stops on the tour.
00:15:35.780 Indivisible is just one progressive group calling for Mr. Schumer to resign. On Friday, 11 members of
00:15:42.520 the Sunrise Movement, a group fighting for radical climate change policies, were arrested outside of
00:15:48.300 Senator Schumer's office in Washington. A Change.org petition calling on Democrats to boycott donations
00:15:53.800 to Senate Democrats until Mr. Schumer steps down, gathering more than 25,000 signatures. The petition
00:16:01.000 reading, quote, Mr. Schumer has been effectively impotent as minority leader, offering no comprehensive
00:16:06.680 plan or strategy to combat the efforts by Trump and Elon Musk. Amid the fallout, Senator Schumer's
00:16:13.000 longtime legislative director is departing the office. Axios reporting the move's been in the works,
00:16:19.880 allegedly, for a number of months. This, as anger toward Mr. Schumer continues unabated amongst the
00:16:26.000 team blue rank and file. So was it a fear of threats that led him to cancel the tour or of low
00:16:32.840 attendance? That'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megan Kelly. Join me back here for the Megan
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