The Megyn Kelly Show - Truth About Violent Crime in America, Ignorant Campus Protesters, and Left Indoctrination, with Heather Mac Donald ｜ Ep. 774

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00:00:30.600 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

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00:00:42.060 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

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00:00:45.480 Columbia caves.

00:00:47.540 A midnight deadline came and went for the anti-Israel protesters

00:00:51.320 to remove their tents from university grounds

00:00:54.800 and disband their so-called People's University of Palestine.

00:00:59.280 People are paying $70,000 a year to send their kid to this school

00:01:04.340 and allowing this.

00:01:06.600 And indeed, perhaps it was all part of the plan

00:01:08.640 because Columbia's politics were no mystery to anyone applying there.

00:01:12.080 Instead of holding fast to their deadline,

00:01:15.980 Columbia extended the negotiations, giving the protesters another 48 hours.

00:01:21.400 For those of you hoping your child would continue to be educated there,

00:01:24.920 too bad.

00:01:26.240 Apparently, the two sides are going back and forth,

00:01:29.000 trying to negotiate a deal.

00:01:30.760 How does that work when your three-year-old is throwing a fit

00:01:35.060 over not getting the truck in the store aisle at the grocery store

00:01:39.000 when you're just trying to get out of there?

00:01:40.500 Do you negotiate or do you say,

00:01:42.940 we're out of here right now?

00:01:44.020 You abandon the groceries if you have to.

00:01:46.100 Why?

00:01:46.480 Because you don't teach bad lessons to a toddler

00:01:48.940 because it encourages similar behavior.

00:01:51.620 Just before the deadline,

00:01:53.340 the university's chapter of Students for Justice in Palestine,

00:01:57.120 which pretty much at every turn has espoused rhetoric

00:02:00.140 that makes it closer to students for the death of Jews, 0.54

00:02:03.960 accused the university of intimidation. 0.87

00:02:07.100 Then, outside on the lawn,

00:02:09.200 a masked man told the protesters to be ready over the next three days

00:02:13.120 to turn out quickly if needed to defend the encampment

00:02:16.280 and their fellow comrades.

00:02:19.460 This video from Jessica Schwab,

00:02:21.840 student reporter for the Columbia Spectator.

00:02:24.200 We are entering a period of high alert for the next three days.

00:02:30.020 And that is why I urge all of you to talk to your friends as well

00:02:34.920 and let them know that we may need people to turn up quickly,

00:02:40.140 en masse, in front of the encampment to defend the encampment.

00:02:45.260 Will you be ready to rally for your comrades?

00:02:48.280 Yes.

00:02:51.520 Yes, please help save your fellow comrades

00:02:55.380 some of the most privileged people in human history

00:02:59.260 who pay, I guess it's $90,000 a year to attend Columbia.

00:03:03.840 Oh, help band together, comrades, the oppression.

00:03:08.640 The administration claims they backed off the deadline

00:03:11.260 after the students complied with fire department's safety requirements.

00:03:15.180 Oh, what a concession.

00:03:16.580 And vowed to remove discriminatory and harassing language

00:03:19.680 from the encampment, like Al-Qa-San's next targets. 0.87

00:03:23.800 Remember that?

00:03:24.860 The woman praising the military wing of Hamas, 0.98

00:03:28.800 encouraging them to target those annoying Jews standing behind her. 0.99

00:03:31.780 God, if only they could get... 0.99

00:03:33.960 Is that harassing?

00:03:35.020 Is that a problem?

00:03:36.640 Maybe she's gone home.

00:03:38.480 The administration called this progress.

00:03:41.140 At the same time, Hamas terrorists have just published

00:03:43.300 a new propaganda video.

00:03:45.360 And these are the actual Hamas terrorists,

00:03:47.200 not just their supporters in college campuses across America.

00:03:51.500 So the actual Hamas terrorists have just published

00:03:53.920 a new propaganda video.

00:03:55.280 And I've got to tell you something.

00:03:56.300 We don't air these videos and we're not going to air this video.

00:03:59.740 But to me, and it's disturbing to see,

00:04:03.600 it was good news because it harkened back to a story

00:04:07.960 that we brought you about an American hostage.

00:04:10.920 And before I get to, before I show you this,

00:04:13.220 I want to set it up for you, okay?

00:04:15.780 He was an American who's living in Israel

00:04:18.100 and he was kidnapped on October 7th.

00:04:21.760 And we knew the name of 23-year-old Hirsch Goldberg Poland

00:04:26.080 because his mother came out publicly

00:04:29.240 and we read this piece on the air.

00:04:31.260 Do you guys remember this?

00:04:32.940 His mom wrote a piece.

00:04:34.500 Her name is Rachel Goldberg in the New York Times.

00:04:36.780 And the title was,

00:04:38.380 I Hope Someone Somewhere is Being Kind to My Boy.

00:04:43.100 She wrote,

00:04:43.960 Hirsch, our oldest child and only son,

00:04:46.340 was camping with his best friend

00:04:47.700 at an outdoor music festival

00:04:49.300 near Israel's border with Gaza

00:04:50.860 when Hamas terrorists began firing.

00:04:53.700 We later found out Hirsch and his friends

00:04:55.080 managed to escape by car,

00:04:56.360 but they were forced to stop

00:04:57.500 and take cover in a roadside bomb shelter.

00:05:02.020 Terrorists then attacked the shelter,

00:05:03.680 blowing off Hirsch's arm

00:05:05.180 from the elbow down by machine gun fire

00:05:07.800 or a grenade or both.

00:05:10.440 According to witnesses,

00:05:11.380 he was ordered into a pickup truck.

00:05:14.280 She wrote,

00:05:14.740 I want things to go back to how they were

00:05:16.560 before Saturday morning,

00:05:18.340 before I saw Hirsch's text messages

00:05:20.140 that alerted me he was in grave danger.

00:05:23.080 I love you and I'm sorry,

00:05:26.140 she quoted him as writing.

00:05:27.800 But here we are,

00:05:29.260 stuck in the awful present.

00:05:31.220 If he is still alive,

00:05:32.280 how much longer can he survive?

00:05:34.340 His wounds are grievous.

00:05:36.200 I hope someone somewhere

00:05:37.420 is being kind to him,

00:05:39.660 caring for him,

00:05:41.060 attending to him.

00:05:42.600 Every single person in Gaza has a mother

00:05:44.560 or had one at some point.

00:05:46.300 And I would say this then,

00:05:48.180 as a mother to other mothers,

00:05:50.320 if you see Hirsch,

00:05:51.840 please help him.

00:05:53.340 I think about it a lot.

00:05:55.220 I really think I would help your son

00:05:57.440 if he was in front of me,

00:05:59.300 injured,

00:06:00.300 near me.

00:06:02.380 Well,

00:06:03.120 it appears,

00:06:05.660 based on the references made

00:06:07.000 in the hostage video

00:06:08.380 and the appearance,

00:06:10.600 Hirsch is alive.

00:06:12.660 We're only going to show you

00:06:13.780 an image of it.

00:06:14.840 We're not going to play the video,

00:06:17.500 but you can clearly see

00:06:18.560 that his left arm is missing

00:06:20.320 from the elbow down

00:06:21.300 and you can only see him

00:06:23.560 from the waist up.

00:06:24.920 But otherwise,

00:06:26.120 he appears,

00:06:27.000 at least in this video,

00:06:28.540 to be,

00:06:29.400 relatively speaking,

00:06:30.580 all right.

00:06:31.760 We know from reporting

00:06:32.980 done by CNN's Anderson Cooper

00:06:34.440 back in October

00:06:35.120 that Hirsch's arm

00:06:35.900 was blown off

00:06:36.680 after terrorists threw grenades

00:06:38.500 into a roadside bomb shelter

00:06:40.940 where Hirsch and several others

00:06:42.080 were trying to hide

00:06:42.860 as his mother documented.

00:06:45.820 Again,

00:06:46.340 you can see him here

00:06:47.200 in this video

00:06:47.760 from when it happened

00:06:49.000 when he was taken captive

00:06:50.620 and put in the back

00:06:51.300 of this pickup truck.

00:06:52.140 He's in camouflage shorts.

00:06:53.900 He's covered in blood.

00:06:56.240 His poor family

00:06:57.200 had to see this

00:06:58.020 and only wonder

00:06:58.960 what happened to him.

00:07:00.740 He was never seen again

00:07:01.900 until today.

00:07:05.100 What's amazing

00:07:05.980 is there are Americans

00:07:08.720 across the USA today,

00:07:11.540 last night,

00:07:12.560 the night before,

00:07:13.180 and so on,

00:07:14.300 not demanding

00:07:15.720 that Hirsch be released

00:07:17.140 their fellow American

00:07:18.100 and demanding justice

00:07:20.000 for what was done to him

00:07:21.360 and so many others

00:07:22.280 who still have five Americans

00:07:23.720 in captivity there,

00:07:25.460 not to mention the Israelis.

00:07:27.360 They're protesting 1.00

00:07:28.520 to kill more Jews. 1.00

00:07:30.820 Literally, 1.00

00:07:31.500 that is the chant, 1.00

00:07:32.760 death to Jews, 1.00

00:07:33.520 that we're hearing 1.00

00:07:34.500 on American college campuses.

00:07:36.600 They don't care

00:07:38.300 about Hirsch

00:07:39.400 or the other Americans 0.85

00:07:40.660 in captivity.

00:07:41.920 They care about

00:07:43.280 what they see

00:07:43.940 as their own oppression

00:07:45.400 where they had to get

00:07:47.580 eight,

00:07:48.660 seven hours of not eating

00:07:50.180 if they happen

00:07:51.560 to be arrested.

00:07:52.380 They're very sorry

00:07:53.360 for themselves.

00:07:54.700 They're mad

00:07:55.900 that people are going by

00:07:57.260 filming the tents,

00:07:59.700 this tent city

00:08:00.380 they built

00:08:00.880 because of their privacy rights.

00:08:03.460 that's what these 0.76

00:08:04.980 snot-nosed kids

00:08:06.540 are worried about today

00:08:08.220 or so they would

00:08:08.880 have us believe.

00:08:10.200 There's no better person

00:08:11.260 to talk to this about

00:08:12.220 than Heather McDonald. 0.99

00:08:13.980 She's been writing

00:08:14.680 about this exact

00:08:16.280 kind of person

00:08:17.140 for many years

00:08:18.660 and understands

00:08:19.720 this mentality fully.

00:08:22.140 She's a fellow

00:08:22.640 at the Manhattan Institute.

00:08:23.900 She's the author 0.99

00:08:24.380 of many books,

00:08:25.180 but her most recent one

00:08:26.160 is titled

00:08:26.620 When Race Trumps Merit, 0.73

00:08:28.840 How the Pursuit of Equity

00:08:29.900 Sacrifices Excellence,

00:08:31.500 Destroys Beauty,

00:08:32.180 and Threatens Lives.

00:08:35.920 Heather,

00:08:36.600 I'm so happy

00:08:37.540 to have you today.

00:08:38.560 There's so much

00:08:39.100 I want to talk to you about.

00:08:40.480 But let's kick it off there

00:08:41.560 that, you know,

00:08:43.000 what's happening

00:08:43.520 on these campuses

00:08:44.240 and the absolute

00:08:45.380 entitlement

00:08:46.200 and cluelessness

00:08:47.400 of these students.

00:08:48.960 Well, they're up

00:08:49.340 against a deadline,

00:08:50.900 Megan,

00:08:51.220 because school's

00:08:52.080 about to end

00:08:52.820 and now they've got

00:08:54.460 this perfect audience 0.96

00:08:55.900 of cowardly 1.00

00:08:58.200 bureaucrats 1.00

00:08:59.820 and presidents

00:09:00.580 and DEI officers

00:09:02.020 going around

00:09:02.900 pampering them

00:09:03.840 and pretending

00:09:04.900 that these are

00:09:05.580 significant protests.

00:09:07.000 It's a completely

00:09:07.900 codependent relationship 0.71

00:09:09.940 between narcissistic students

00:09:12.040 putting on

00:09:12.680 these phantom plays

00:09:15.480 about rallying

00:09:18.120 to each other

00:09:18.700 and comrades.

00:09:19.520 But when school ends,

00:09:20.700 you know,

00:09:20.840 what are they going to do?

00:09:22.180 They're in these

00:09:23.040 safe little enclaves,

00:09:25.040 Columbia University,

00:09:26.260 walled off

00:09:26.800 from New York City,

00:09:28.280 where they can engage

00:09:29.960 in this play acting.

00:09:31.780 But commencement

00:09:32.300 is coming up.

00:09:33.180 Commencement season

00:09:33.820 is going to be very fun

00:09:34.800 to see what happens there.

00:09:35.880 But after that,

00:09:37.140 they're going to lose

00:09:38.240 their selective audience

00:09:40.320 and you're going to have

00:09:40.920 to wait several months.

00:09:42.100 So right now,

00:09:42.880 things are accelerating

00:09:44.640 on college campuses

00:09:45.740 because they know

00:09:46.500 they're about to lose

00:09:47.420 the spotlight

00:09:48.100 when school ends.

00:09:49.880 The thing to remember,

00:09:51.440 this is obviously

00:09:52.520 a scary, scary time

00:09:55.060 if you're Jewish, Megan,

00:09:56.640 but this is about

00:09:57.480 much more than anti-Semitism.

00:10:00.880 This grows out

00:10:01.680 of the fundamental ideology

00:10:03.520 of the university today,

00:10:05.180 which is anti-Western.

00:10:07.720 Jews today are not seen

00:10:09.280 as a threat

00:10:09.860 to Western civilization

00:10:10.900 as they were

00:10:11.900 in the early 20th century.

00:10:14.020 They were not clubbable.

00:10:15.600 They are seen

00:10:16.080 as the very embodiment

00:10:17.320 of Western civilization.

00:10:18.400 So at this point,

00:10:20.980 they're coming,

00:10:21.740 the left is coming 0.80

00:10:23.260 for the Jews

00:10:24.940 and you have

00:10:26.280 this mass hysteria

00:10:28.020 celebrating Hamas.

00:10:30.820 But the next step

00:10:31.940 and what we've been seeing

00:10:33.300 for decades now

00:10:34.220 on college campuses

00:10:35.120 is to tear down

00:10:36.800 Western civilization itself,

00:10:38.480 whether that's

00:10:39.000 with regards to

00:10:39.900 standards of excellence

00:10:41.460 in medicine,

00:10:42.660 in science,

00:10:43.440 in mathematician,

00:10:44.640 in math,

00:10:45.200 whether it's regards

00:10:45.900 to criminal law

00:10:47.120 and expectations

00:10:48.480 of lawful behavior.

00:10:50.720 The West is in a

00:10:52.220 suicide mode right now

00:10:54.440 that is one of self-loathing

00:10:57.300 and this is the absolute

00:10:58.760 perfect product

00:11:00.160 of the university.

00:11:01.660 It's not a mistake.

00:11:03.280 It's a feature,

00:11:04.300 not a bug.

00:11:05.020 This would explain

00:11:07.560 why these campus protests,

00:11:11.160 whatever you want

00:11:11.460 to call them,

00:11:11.840 encampments,

00:11:12.600 have the support of,

00:11:14.400 it appears,

00:11:15.340 most of the faculty

00:11:16.280 at these campuses.

00:11:18.120 It's amazing

00:11:18.600 how we're seeing

00:11:19.140 the faculty come out

00:11:20.100 and support this.

00:11:22.100 Places like,

00:11:23.020 here's the latest

00:11:23.540 out of NYU,

00:11:24.460 here's video of faculty members

00:11:25.760 forming what they call

00:11:26.580 a human chain

00:11:27.380 around the protesters'

00:11:29.460 encampment

00:11:30.020 following threats

00:11:31.460 of mass arrests,

00:11:32.460 which is exactly

00:11:33.620 what should happen

00:11:34.320 to these students.

00:11:35.040 They should be arrested.

00:11:36.460 And the faculty

00:11:38.100 went out there

00:11:38.920 to say,

00:11:39.820 no,

00:11:40.140 we're not going to have it.

00:11:41.680 And it's not just

00:11:42.520 at NYU.

00:11:44.020 We saw that

00:11:44.620 at Columbia

00:11:45.360 and elsewhere

00:11:45.840 where the faculty

00:11:46.600 are just as into

00:11:47.560 the problem

00:11:48.740 as the students are.

00:11:50.200 One other for you,

00:11:50.940 this is a soundbite

00:11:51.680 from Barnard,

00:11:52.440 which is right next

00:11:53.020 to Columbia,

00:11:53.720 where they're marching

00:11:54.760 the faculty

00:11:55.300 for no suspensions.

00:11:57.120 They don't want

00:11:57.860 any suspensions even

00:11:59.180 of these students.

00:12:00.540 Look at this,

00:12:01.000 SOT 6.

00:12:01.400 now we want

00:12:04.340 no suspensions

00:12:05.660 now.

00:12:08.860 No suspensions

00:12:10.360 now.

00:12:13.160 Who are we coming for?

00:12:14.560 Rosenberry

00:12:15.760 now.

00:12:18.360 Who are we coming for?

00:12:19.700 Rosenberry

00:12:20.820 now.

00:12:22.960 No suspensions

00:12:24.100 now.

00:12:26.360 What do we want?

00:12:27.560 No suspensions

00:12:28.920 now.

00:12:32.120 Rosenberry is the university president.

00:12:33.980 I mean, how would you feel if you were a parent of somebody who'd sent their kid to Barnard,

00:12:38.080 not expecting that they couldn't go to class, not expecting if they're Jewish, 0.54

00:12:42.460 that they would have to be subjected to death to the Jew chants as she walked to math? 0.55

00:12:50.180 Well, I hope it wakes up a lot of parents and I hope it wakes up donors.

00:12:53.340 I hope it wakes up alumni, because, again, none of this is surprising.

00:12:56.600 You know, we're heading towards a real conflict here,

00:13:02.960 because what the wise people are calling anti-Semitism,

00:13:09.500 for most of the campus left, as you say, Megan,

00:13:12.400 they don't see these chants as anti-Semitism.

00:13:15.420 They see it as a factual description of settler colonialism.

00:13:21.800 So I'm wondering how much longer the left is going to put up with having

00:13:26.220 the president's now scurrying to say we've got a problem on campus

00:13:31.620 when the problem doesn't even exist in the eyes of the left.

00:13:36.060 Now, I would say one thing.

00:13:39.400 Students should be punished if they are violating neutral rules of conduct,

00:13:45.040 if they're protesting, agitating against neutral rules of time, place, and manner.

00:13:52.100 But they should not be punished for any speech.

00:13:55.860 Because, Megan, if we, the conservatives, the traditionalists who have been arguing

00:14:01.620 that the left should not be penalizing people who argue that there are two biological sexes,

00:14:08.200 that you cannot change the chromosomes in your body by cutting off your sex organs,

00:14:13.440 you do not thereby make yourself a member of the opposite sex.

00:14:16.760 People who say that schools are not racist, the reason we don't have proportional representation

00:14:22.440 on faculty and student body is not racism.

00:14:25.900 It's the large academic skills gap.

00:14:28.600 That is not hate speech.

00:14:31.020 Speaking the truth is not hate speech.

00:14:33.020 If the right now turns around and says they want to punish these anti-Israel statements,

00:14:40.760 they are going to set a precedent that will come back to haunt us yet again.

00:14:45.040 And it is always eventually going to be conservative truth speakers who are silenced by any kind

00:14:54.040 of speech code, by any capitulation to the idea that hate speech somehow falls outside of protections

00:15:01.040 of free speech.

00:15:02.300 So I think as hard as it is to listen to these chants from the river to the sea of, you know,

00:15:09.600 intifada revolution, celebrating our martyrs, we have to know this is going on.

00:15:15.040 It is a clarifying moment.

00:15:17.280 Bring it on.

00:15:18.520 The more these students chant these hateful chants, the more the public finally learns

00:15:25.740 what has been going on on college campuses for the last three decades.

00:15:30.140 So let's just spend a minute on that, because I know our audience should know that you're

00:15:35.180 a lawyer as well.

00:15:36.400 I went to Stanford Law.

00:15:39.560 Where do we draw the line?

00:15:40.840 Because you and I would probably be kicked off campus for just saying the things about

00:15:44.780 gender that you just said, and you've gotten harassed off campus for saying even less controversial

00:15:49.680 things.

00:15:50.160 But we wouldn't be allowed, even at a Ron DeSantis school in Florida, a state university

00:15:57.540 in Florida, to go onto a campus and find a group of trans kids meeting together for support 1.00

00:16:06.000 to surround them and chant death to the tranny bastards, death, death, death. 1.00

00:16:13.820 That would be targeted harassment, right? 1.00

00:16:16.040 So like there is an amount of free speech or I agree hate speech is protected by the

00:16:20.740 Constitution, but you can get to the level of targeted harassment where you lose your

00:16:25.380 right to say the thing and you get kicked off.

00:16:28.220 Like, I really think some of these words, I agree, like from the river to the sea is I

00:16:33.780 don't think that's going to do it. 0.88

00:16:34.860 But death to the Jews and here's Al-Qasam's next target right here, right? 1.00

00:16:39.640 Right. 1.00

00:16:39.840 These Jews, right. 0.99

00:16:40.500 You're getting a lot closer to speech that could be like problematic legally.

00:16:47.860 Yes, I still would say that context matters.

00:16:53.320 And unless it is really, really targeted at a specific individual, these are still basically

00:17:00.440 ideological chants.

00:17:02.040 I don't think anybody really feels like, I mean, it may come to this and let's just hope 0.97

00:17:09.220 it does not, that somebody hears a chant like that and picks up a knife and stabs a Jewish 0.90

00:17:14.580 student. 0.74

00:17:15.180 So, yes, I guess if your example of death to trannies, I guess I just feel like we, to silence 0.52

00:17:31.280 that sentiment prevents us from knowing what these students have been taught.

00:17:40.600 And again, this is this, we're not saying this is happening, that the right is saying

00:17:46.120 this, what this is overwhelmingly coming from the left.

00:17:50.640 And I want to hear that.

00:17:54.420 So you're saying even if the university could censor it under its free speech policies that

00:18:00.660 prevent targeted discrimination or bullying, why would they?

00:18:04.740 Because it's, it's exposing them.

00:18:06.660 Right.

00:18:09.020 It's, we, this is, again, it's a clarifying moment.

00:18:12.840 And I think that apart from very, very specific targeted threats, it's also a mistake.

00:18:23.100 And I'm sympathetic to Jewish students on campus, but they are starting to use the same rhetoric

00:18:29.960 of safetyism, I'm unsafe on campus.

00:18:33.340 And there have been actually very few assaults.

00:18:36.840 I sound like I've got a very low standard here, Megan.

00:18:41.160 It's, it's pathetic that we're having to say, well, things are okay, because nobody's actually, 0.87

00:18:46.740 in very few instances of Jews actually gotten beaten up. 0.85

00:18:49.580 You know, we're not yet at Kristallnacht.

00:18:51.180 But given the ideological context in which we're living, in which it is the, it is right

00:18:59.560 wing or conservative, truthful speech that is silenced all the time, we've got to allow

00:19:06.820 it on the left so that we can try to, to, to use this moment to say, okay, you, University

00:19:14.060 of Pennsylvania, Harvard, if you guys are claiming we can't silence this because we are so committed

00:19:20.080 to free speech, okay, well, tell us about Amy Wax, tell us about, you know, Carolyn Hooven

00:19:26.380 at, at, at Harvard, who voluntarily resigned because she was so harassed by saying that sex 0.91

00:19:31.480 is biological, you can't have it both ways left.

00:19:34.880 You cannot censor, uh, the right, and at the same time claim that free speech demands that

00:19:42.500 people go around chanting, celebrating our, our, our Hamas martyrs.

00:19:47.320 It's so crazy because when you zoom out and you, you know, the, Caroline Hooven is a good

00:19:52.140 example when the right gets canceled on college campuses.

00:19:55.320 And as I mentioned, you've been subjected to this.

00:19:57.420 It's like one speaker who came on to give a lecture that's well thought out and has some

00:20:03.920 heterodox ideas.

00:20:05.720 And these universities are 100% fine with that.

00:20:09.600 And then look at this full encampments, preventing Jews from going across campus, forming a line

00:20:18.380 so that they can't come into the encampment, like being excluded.

00:20:21.520 We saw at the one university where they were held in a library that, you know, where people

00:20:25.880 were banging on their doors against them, threatening them.

00:20:29.080 Eh, eh, free speech.

00:20:31.420 That now the university is going to stand up in favor of our, our favorite principal.

00:20:35.740 I would say this, you know, Trump has said something close to this.

00:20:41.100 And of course the, the media went absolutely crazy, but it's true.

00:20:46.140 Frankly, let's be honest, Megan, liberal Jews have been supporting their intersectional 0.77

00:20:51.960 allies.

00:20:52.920 This should be a wake up call to them.

00:20:54.900 I don't know how they vote for the democratic party because this ideology of hatred towards

00:21:00.380 the West, of victimology is spreading.

00:21:03.700 It is now basically the official credo.

00:21:06.400 I don't care what Chuck Schumer says.

00:21:08.060 I don't care what Nancy Pelosi says.

00:21:09.840 It is the official credo of the democratic party.

00:21:13.180 You have the, the Biden white house who continues to jam, uh, racial preferences, racial quotas,

00:21:21.940 sexual preferences through every federal agency, through every science granting agency into the 0.90

00:21:27.980 universities, into the K through 12, demanding trans, uh, brainwashing of children. 1.00

00:21:35.900 This is what the democratic party is about. 0.98

00:21:38.460 And we are seeing it's hateful, ugly face on college campuses.

00:21:43.440 This should be a, a major, major theme in the coming elections.

00:21:48.180 If you want more of this type of hatred, vote for Democrats.

00:21:54.340 It's so true. 0.84

00:21:56.480 It's been amazing to me to watch since 10, seven, the, some of these liberal Jewish Americans 0.96

00:22:03.560 have the light bulb go off on top of their head.

00:22:07.220 I'm thinking of, for example, Bill Ackman, right?

00:22:09.680 This billionaire investor, and he's been very outspoken about now DEI on college campuses.

00:22:16.360 And I appreciate people like Bill Ackman, who's got power and influence and a lot of money

00:22:20.700 joining the fight, but there are many who have been fighting this with every fiber of their

00:22:26.040 being for years, like you hello.

00:22:29.080 And have been called every name in the book without any support from people like Bill.

00:22:36.680 And it's like a great, you know, pick up arms, rhetorical arms and fight right alongside of us.

00:22:42.360 But some humility for the fact that you missed it all while it was happening, in my view, is in order.

00:22:50.440 Absolutely.

00:22:51.500 And again, the Jewish donors that have finally woken up, don't let it end here. 0.75

00:22:57.960 Don't be bought off with, oh, we're going to add anti-Semitism training to the portfolio of DEI.

00:23:04.300 That was Bill Ackman's original proposal when this all started.

00:23:09.420 And he said he was so shocked that Jews weren't included in the marginalized groups

00:23:13.640 against the majority on campus, you know, as if the majority, there is no majority on campus.

00:23:19.560 The one victimized group that's on campus these days is heterosexual white males. 1.00

00:23:24.140 They are screwed. 1.00

00:23:25.140 They are the last to be hired, the last to be admitted. 1.00

00:23:29.500 They have to be three times as good.

00:23:31.000 Of course, the Asians have to be 10 times as good as anybody else. 1.00

00:23:33.420 But if you're a heterosexual white male, forget it. 0.98

00:23:35.840 It's over for you. 0.88

00:23:37.340 But Ackman's initial position was, well, gee, you know, the Jews are oppressed by this somehow phantom 0.97

00:23:44.160 white WASP majority. 0.63

00:23:46.500 He gave that up.

00:23:47.500 There's still a lot of people holding on to that.

00:23:49.640 And it's frankly hilarious.

00:23:51.040 I mean, these these protest signs of queers for Palestine just shows how fundamentally 1.00

00:23:56.560 ignorant Americans are about the world. 0.99

00:24:00.340 They live in a bubble of victimhood. 1.00

00:24:02.960 So they apparently don't even know how people in Muslim countries or in the Middle East, Muslim

00:24:11.400 Middle Easterners treat queers. 1.00

00:24:13.700 Good luck holding a gay pride march in Gaza or on the West Bank.

00:24:19.980 Good luck doing that in Nairobi.

00:24:21.660 Good luck doing that in Africa. 1.00

00:24:23.800 So the intersectional coalition is now it's it's holding together fine, except for Jews. 0.99

00:24:31.860 And of course, it's Jews should be really kind of miffed about this. 1.00

00:24:37.660 They were essential to the civil rights movement.

00:24:40.320 They were essential to the anti-apartheid movement. 0.99

00:24:43.280 And blacks are screwing them over. 1.00

00:24:44.700 You have South Africa dragging Israel into the world court for genocide, which is a preposterous 0.99

00:24:50.580 claim.

00:24:51.420 And you have the majority black politicians now siding with their Palestinian brothers in 0.93

00:24:57.480 victimhood. 1.00

00:24:58.160 This is ridiculous and claiming that Jews are somehow the main threat to blacks and to 1.00

00:25:07.440 Palestinians. 1.00

00:25:08.040 All of this is complete fiction.

00:25:11.060 So this, again, should be a movement to basically shut down as much of the universities as we can,

00:25:17.520 create as many alternatives as we can, and for people to speak up for Western civilization,

00:25:23.320 which has given us the very foundational ideas that the left uses against the West.

00:25:30.480 Equality, tolerance, human rights, limited government.

00:25:34.620 These are all exclusively Western ideas.

00:25:38.020 They came out of no place outside of the West. 0.90

00:25:41.260 They didn't come out of Africa.

00:25:42.900 They didn't come out of China.

00:25:44.660 They didn't come out of Arabia.

00:25:46.560 They didn't come out of India.

00:25:48.620 And now the left uses the bounty of beautiful Enlightenment ideas to try and tear down the

00:26:01.120 Enlightenment.

00:26:02.040 There is something sick in the West right now.

00:26:04.880 We are a self-canceling culture.

00:26:07.680 The Great Replacement Theory is real. 0.72

00:26:10.020 I've decided to destroy our birth rate and to flood our country with cultures that, in 1.00

00:26:18.220 mass, on mass, are not compatible.

00:26:21.560 We cannot assimilate the number of people who are coming, and we've decided we don't even 1.00

00:26:28.140 want to try.

00:26:29.020 And, of course, the most galling thing, Megan, is that the left in the morning says the U.S.

00:26:35.180 and Europe are the most oppressive places on Earth.

00:26:38.760 They are fundamentally hostile to people of color. 0.99

00:26:43.920 Their grounding ideology is one of white supremacy. 0.94

00:26:47.220 That's their line in the morning.

00:26:49.120 And in the afternoon, they say any country that does not have open borders, any Western

00:26:55.440 country does not have open borders to allow as many millions of people want to come from

00:27:01.820 third world places of color that the West is then oppressive.

00:27:06.900 You can't have it both ways.

00:27:08.720 You can't say that the West is endemically lethal to people of color and at the same time

00:27:15.080 say we want as many people of color to come in illegally into Western countries as possible 1.00

00:27:22.200 because that's where their lives will be improved.

00:27:26.060 Make up your mind.

00:27:27.040 You get one or the other.

00:27:29.400 You either say the West is racist or you get to say everybody comes in.

00:27:34.620 You can't say both.

00:27:36.340 That's right. 0.99

00:27:36.640 Or as they now put it, it's not safe for brown and black bodies. 0.99

00:27:40.200 It's not safe for brown and black bodies. 1.00

00:27:42.540 This discussion is reminding me of a couple of headlines I retweeted today from the Babylon 0.96

00:27:47.080 Bee, which is always great in these situations.

00:27:49.560 Here's one.

00:27:50.500 Columbia protesters clarify they only want death to America after America is done paying

00:27:55.280 their student loans off.

00:27:57.260 Yes, exactly right.

00:27:59.580 Here's another one.

00:28:01.140 Palestine, Palestinian protester or Palestine protester tries to argue with skinhead, but

00:28:06.600 they just agree on everything.

00:28:07.960 That's right. 1.00

00:28:08.960 The Jews are bad. 1.00

00:28:09.900 Yeah, same. 1.00

00:28:10.620 I feel the same.

00:28:11.780 And then there's a Columbia student leaves lecture on microaggressions to attend kill the 0.95

00:28:18.020 Jews rally.

00:28:18.640 Well, you know, again, it's all continuous.

00:28:25.120 If you feel like you are the victim of microaggressions on campus and that claim of victimhood has catapulted

00:28:34.520 you to the top of the victim totem pole, you have a lot of power and you get drunk with power.

00:28:40.920 And, you know, you started, Megan, with the Columbia administrators sort of tiptoeing around the

00:28:49.340 tents and saying, well, we're going to give you another 48 hours.

00:28:51.700 That's because at the same time as we have this profoundly radical and hate-filled ideology of sort of make-believe

00:29:01.760 radicalism and Marxism on college campuses, you have at the same time the very epitome of a capitalist

00:29:08.480 ideology, which is the student as consumer and adults creating the, you know, the climbing

00:29:14.840 walls and the Starbucks cafes at every corner on college campuses and redoing the dormitories

00:29:24.540 to have every amenity.

00:29:25.680 You know, I visited Yale several years ago and in the Berkeley dining hall, they had tastings of

00:29:33.420 different extra virgin olive oils from Italy.

00:29:36.280 And at the same time, you know, the Yale students, the minority students are out there claiming

00:29:40.540 that they're so victimized.

00:29:42.780 They're throwing tantrums against the renowned sociologist Nicholas Christock is telling him 1.00

00:29:49.220 to shut up and, you know, who the fuck invited you because we as black students are so victimized 1.00

00:29:55.460 in college campuses. 1.00

00:29:56.120 At the same time, they have olive oil, virgin olive oil tastings.

00:30:00.040 It's a profoundly decadent environment that is about anything but knowledge.

00:30:04.320 These students should be down on their knees in gratitude.

00:30:07.900 Yeah.

00:30:08.740 Here's the New York Post on what we're seeing at your alma mater, Yale, where you went undergrad,

00:30:15.100 decrying capitalism while munching on fresh sushi Monday.

00:30:22.140 Well, while supposedly, by the way, engaging in a week long hunger strike.

00:30:26.100 So, OK, pick a lane.

00:30:27.720 And then they go on to write, but the festive atmosphere continued even after some were arrested

00:30:32.960 as some protesters paired off to do some salsa dancing, wide smiles plastered on their faces

00:30:39.300 as they took a well-deserved break from denouncing free enterprise and their university, $85,000

00:30:46.040 a year to attend.

00:30:47.480 Where do you begin?

00:30:51.460 I mean, these are the most spoiled people in human history.

00:30:56.660 You know, we thought that the monarchy was bad.

00:30:59.060 I actually would have been in favor of it.

00:31:00.780 I think authorities, they were great artistic patrons.

00:31:04.000 I love the Habsburg Empire.

00:31:05.260 I'm in Vienna and I love they supported a style of music, of architecture that is unperiled in its beauty.

00:31:11.120 But, you know, we think, oh, those spoiled kings and aristocrats that lived off everybody else.

00:31:17.480 These students are living off of everybody else.

00:31:20.260 They are completely self-involved.

00:31:22.560 They have no idea what it took to create the prosperity that they take for granted.

00:31:28.660 Every fabric, every material around you was the product of this extraordinary 400-year race

00:31:37.840 to create knowledge, to transform human existence from what was millennia of the most swallowed,

00:31:49.200 disease-filled, poverty-stricken, famine-stricken existence where you barely eked out to now our problem is obesity.

00:31:59.600 We are so successful.

00:32:00.880 Capitalism, free market economy has been so successful that we are drowning in goods.

00:32:08.580 We are drowning in prosperity.

00:32:11.260 And we have no recollection.

00:32:13.300 We have no knowledge of what it took.

00:32:16.400 And meanwhile, we're tearing down science by saying if any standard of excellence has a disparate impact on Black and Hispanic students,

00:32:27.020 we should tear it down.

00:32:28.600 We should get rid of credentializing in medicine.

00:32:32.100 We should credentialize on the basis of race, not knowledge of medicine.

00:32:36.580 We should hire and promote on the basis of race, not knowledge of how to save a cancer victim or how to solve a heart attack victim.

00:32:46.220 We are the federal government under Biden is handing out billions of dollars of federal taxpayer money

00:32:53.640 based not on who is the best oncologist or who is the best neurologist to try and cure Alzheimer's disease or Parkinson's disease,

00:33:03.000 but who has the darkest skin color.

00:33:07.160 But of course, if you're East Asian, that doesn't count. 0.98

00:33:10.080 Or if you're an Indian, that doesn't count. 0.88

00:33:11.600 In fact, our science profession right now is extraordinarily multinational, multicultural, multiracial. 0.87

00:33:19.040 The only groups who are not proportionally represented are Blacks and Hispanics.

00:33:23.940 And that's not because of racism.

00:33:25.840 It's because of the skills gap.

00:33:27.620 It's because the grasp of math and science concepts is so low.

00:33:32.820 That's a problem that begins in the family.

00:33:35.580 It begins in a culture of anti-academic achievement.

00:33:39.080 It begins in stigmatizing.

00:33:41.280 Academic effort is acting white. 0.62

00:33:43.380 That's what has to change.

00:33:45.020 We should not be tearing down our standards, Megan.

00:33:47.700 But we are a culture now that is engaged in self-loathing.

00:33:52.520 And when the West tears itself down, there's going to be nothing left.

00:33:57.260 The mob can destroy.

00:33:58.960 It cannot create.

00:34:00.000 And we'll see what happens if the West can continuously self-cancels.

00:34:06.180 China will take over. 0.91

00:34:08.020 I mean, they are now beating us in many types of nanotechnologies because they do care about merit.

00:34:15.400 They're not handing scientific and math privileges out based on identity politics.

00:34:21.980 They're saying, I'm going to find the best math talent among the student body, and I'm going to throw everything we've got.

00:34:28.300 But meanwhile, America is tearing down gifted and talented programs because of the usual race issue. 0.97

00:34:35.320 And we're tearing down our criminal law enforcement because of the usual race issue. 0.99

00:34:40.880 This is how a society destroys excellence and civilization.

00:34:44.800 They've been using the term Selma envy to describe a lot of these students, right?

00:34:53.020 They're just so desperate to be part of something that matters, and they missed that particular movement.

00:34:59.720 And so now they're finding something else and falsely trying to compare themselves to people who actually did suffer and didn't endure a lot in order to change this country by claiming they're on a hunger strike.

00:35:12.280 When really they're ordering sushi to their George Soros funded tent by claiming, you know, woe is me while they're sneaking off for a little salsa dancing by as Ilan Omar's daughter who went to Barnard.

00:35:24.420 She goes there now was suspended in connection with one of these protests, calling herself now homeless because she got suspended temporarily and saying she was the victim of a chemical weapons attack.

00:35:38.420 Heather, because one of the students sprayed a gas, meaning fart spray on campus that is non-toxic.

00:35:48.020 It says so on the bottle. And she, without mentioning that's what happened, just goes on MSNBC and says, I was the victim of a chemical weapons attack.

00:35:56.940 Sure, sure you were, Isla or Isra, whatever her name is.

00:36:01.720 I mean, we're basically putting a target on our backs and saying, come and invade.

00:36:05.460 I mean, this is such a decadent society. We do not have martial virtues anymore.

00:36:10.440 I wish I could send these people into comment. Obviously, nobody wants to be at war.

00:36:15.340 But these are people who are living a fiction and are completely soft.

00:36:21.880 We have lost any sense of realism and martial virtues.

00:36:25.980 It is completely pathetic, but it's all comes to, I remember in the 1990s, you would have faculty writing op-eds in the New York Times saying,

00:36:33.860 Oh, where's the student protest? No, you know what? 0.98

00:36:37.200 Here's the only thing you're obliged to do and should do on a college campus is learn. 0.97

00:36:41.860 Shut up and learn some history. Shut up and learn some chemistry. Shut up and learn some literature. 0.99

00:36:50.280 Listen to Mozart. Listen to Brahms. Listen to Chauvin. 1.00

00:36:53.620 Study Tiepolo. Study John Milton. Study the periodic table.

00:36:58.020 There is, you have four years to confront and absorb the greatness of people who went before you, who make you look like pygmies.

00:37:10.580 You should really not be heard. We don't care what you think.

00:37:15.140 Conservatives make the mistake of saying, oh, well, college is all about debate and free speech and critical thinking.

00:37:22.860 Yeah, I, you know, I'm a little less enamored of that concept. 0.98

00:37:27.600 What it should be really about is cramming as much knowledge into the empty noggins of these pathetic crybabies as is possible in four years. 0.99

00:37:37.380 And then if you want to go out after college and and debate whether Trump is a fascist or how many sex organs we should lop off of adolescence today, that's fine. 0.99

00:37:50.600 But right now you should be devoted to one thing, and that is overcoming your embarrassing ignorance about the world and your place in it. 0.97

00:38:02.680 That is so well said. I've got I've got to play this soundbite. 0.84

00:38:07.740 I'm going to front it by telling you, I don't know exactly how he got it or whether he was there.

00:38:13.040 But Rudy Giuliani posted it on X of a student and her friend who were at the NYU protest.

00:38:20.500 And listen to this exchange, Heather.

00:38:22.660 And what would you say is the main goal with tonight's protest?

00:38:27.440 I think the goal is just showing our support for Palestine and demanding that NYU stops.

00:38:32.280 I honestly don't know what NYU is doing.

00:38:35.180 Is there something that NYU is doing?

00:38:36.560 I really don't know. I'm pretty sure there.

00:38:38.440 Do you know what NYU is doing?

00:38:39.800 What about what about Israel?

00:38:41.800 Why are we protesting here?

00:38:43.560 I wish I was more educated.

00:38:46.980 I'm not either.

00:38:47.800 Yes, we all wish that.

00:38:49.000 I came from Columbia. I was there from Columbia and we came down.

00:38:52.560 They said NYU is convincing our support.

00:38:55.080 So I came down. I heard there's lots of cops.

00:38:57.480 Some people were saying it was getting dangerous.

00:39:00.620 Heather. 0.99

00:39:01.420 It is so ridiculous. 0.98

00:39:04.060 Again, it is good. 0.97

00:39:05.160 They're doing this because they're in a college campus and time is running out.

00:39:09.280 The school year is ending.

00:39:10.240 What will they do when they don't have the bureaucrats to go around handing them out little 0.75

00:39:16.600 cookies and saying, well, we're going to negotiate.

00:39:19.240 You can pretend like you're hostages and we're negotiating with you and you're in danger.

00:39:24.180 They'll be thrown out into the real world and there'll be nobody to negotiate with.

00:39:28.560 Now they've got this bunting.

00:39:30.400 They're like little babies swaddled by all of the DEI bureaucrats and the student services

00:39:36.440 bureaucrats and the vice presidents of first gen students.

00:39:40.940 And it's a marvelous. 0.74

00:39:42.380 They are codependent addicts.

00:39:45.780 They're addicted to melodrama and to fiction because they are living in fictional worlds.

00:39:53.600 They are not oppressed in America.

00:39:55.380 They have more freedom than has ever been experienced in all of human history.

00:39:59.340 And yet they live in a world that perversely celebrates victimhood by self-acclamation.

00:40:08.180 They know nothing.

00:40:09.360 Let's give them a map with all of the country's names wiped out.

00:40:14.740 And let's see if they can even find Gaza on a map, much less Jordan.

00:40:20.840 The Golan Heights, Syria, Iran cannot do it. 1.00

00:40:24.980 This is completely as much of a social contagion as the trans thing is. 1.00

00:40:30.740 It is adolescents striving to have power over adults, which is what every adult craves, whether

00:40:36.820 it's claiming that you've been misgendered and so you can crush an adult under your thumb

00:40:42.400 or claiming that you are in solidarity with Palestine and therefore are yourself somehow

00:40:48.880 a victim, it gives adolescents power.

00:40:52.880 And that's what they crave.

00:40:54.120 And the adults-

00:40:54.640 I'd be impressed if that young woman can find her way back to Colombia. 1.00

00:40:58.140 I'm not sure she's going to be able to do it, given her knowledge base there.

00:41:02.040 Why are we here again?

00:41:03.440 I wish I were better educated.

00:41:05.140 We all do, sweetheart.

00:41:06.780 By the way, that Isra Omar is the Jussie Smollett of the Colombia protests.

00:41:12.920 She's a faker. 0.99

00:41:13.940 She was not attacked by a chemical weapon.

00:41:15.560 And she is not homeless.

00:41:16.980 She is somebody who is looking for fake victimhood, like so many her young age are.

00:41:23.220 Okay, so hey, there's so much to get to, but I want to show this.

00:41:26.760 We're on the subject of the salsa and the sushi and the fake chemical weapons attacks

00:41:31.400 and how none of these people is really a victim at these $85,000 a year schools.

00:41:35.200 I bring you the dance.

00:41:38.100 Heather, they've taken to dancing to express, I guess, their outrage over the Jews. 0.98

00:41:43.580 I'm not exactly sure, but take a look.

00:42:13.580 That's the last one's the best.

00:42:21.360 By the way, we got those on X from Via Catch and Ali London.

00:42:25.740 But, you know, nothing says I'm really outraged at all the killing, like a little interpretive dance.

00:42:30.840 Well, sadly, I can't see it.

00:42:34.160 I can hear it, though, and I can imagine.

00:42:35.840 So I am also going to have to watch it later.

00:42:37.900 But again, it's just decadence.

00:42:41.440 That's all it is.

00:42:43.120 And it's performative decadence.

00:42:45.240 And it wouldn't be if the adults on campus had not abdicated their authority, this wouldn't be happening.

00:42:50.900 This all began in the 60s when you had the capitulation to the militants back then.

00:42:56.760 It continues in an academic intellectual sphere with adults who were supposed to be the scholars on campus saying,

00:43:03.840 oh, we're not going to tell you what you need to learn before you graduate.

00:43:06.760 You can just pick your own curriculum.

00:43:08.700 And no student knows enough to do that. 0.65

00:43:10.700 So adults are really leveling themselves, debasing themselves to the level of these ignoramus students.

00:43:20.220 And they don't deserve their salaries. 0.66

00:43:23.400 They don't deserve to be having this privilege of being on a university campus.

00:43:27.880 In theory, there's no greater activity or profession, as far as I'm concerned, Megan,

00:43:35.340 than being in a university and being a curator of this great tradition.

00:43:39.100 These are the luckiest people on earth, these professors.

00:43:43.080 All we ask of them is to tell students, this is greatness.

00:43:47.780 Be down on your knees in front of greatness.

00:43:49.920 And instead, the adults have engaged in their own little play acting of pretending that they too are fighting neoliberalism

00:43:59.380 and engaged in action, you know, ethnic studies.

00:44:03.900 It's all about action, activism.

00:44:07.240 That's not what scholarship is about.

00:44:09.200 But they too have completely swerved from what is their mission.

00:44:14.920 And these campuses are profoundly unserious.

00:44:19.720 They are there.

00:44:21.020 What do you make of this, though, Heather?

00:44:22.520 Because, you know, Scott Galloway, he's a professor.

00:44:25.780 He was on MSNBC this morning with Morning Joe.

00:44:28.160 And he was making good points about he's been on this show before as well, about how if you were to say one word about blacks or Hispanics in the way that they're speaking about Jews, you'd be off campus.

00:44:42.580 He was saying, you know, he would have been kicked out of.

00:44:44.340 I think it's NYU where he's a professor like that, right?

00:44:47.520 There'd be no, well, let's discuss nuance.

00:44:50.020 Let's discuss free speech.

00:44:51.480 He would have been kicked out.

00:44:53.520 And then he went on to talk about what's happening with young people today.

00:44:59.200 I know this is a subject near and dear to him.

00:45:00.980 He talks about it a lot.

00:45:01.800 Probably as a university professor, he's exposed to a lot of them.

00:45:04.760 And here's a bit of what he said.

00:45:06.480 Take a listen.

00:45:06.920 For the first time in our nation's history, a 30-year-old man or woman isn't doing as well as his or her parents were at 30.

00:45:13.280 That is the social compact breaking down.

00:45:16.600 People aged 30 to 34, 60 percent of them in 1990 had one child.

00:45:21.440 Now it's 27 percent.

00:45:23.080 People are opting out of America.

00:45:24.500 They're not optimistic about it.

00:45:25.620 They're not having kids.

00:45:27.000 Young people aren't having sex.

00:45:28.720 They're not meeting.

00:45:29.440 They're not mating.

00:45:29.940 The pool of emotionally and economically viable men shrinks every day, which lessens household formation.

00:45:37.500 So we have a real issue.

00:45:38.820 Young people are enraged. 0.63

00:45:40.620 So it turns every cut, every movement into an opportunistic infection because, quite frankly, they are just pissed off.

00:45:47.480 They look up.

00:45:48.720 They see wealth, exceptional wealth across my generation and people in certain industries.

00:45:54.100 And they are really struggling.

00:45:55.820 Their purchasing power is going down.

00:45:57.220 And the incumbents create artificial scarcity on campus.

00:46:00.320 We take pride in rejecting 90 percent of our applicants.

00:46:03.000 So the incumbents who already have a degree, see their degree go up in value.

00:46:06.220 We get very concerned with housing and traffic once we own the housing.

00:46:09.860 Housing permits are sequestered from young people.

00:46:13.580 Housing prices have gone from $290 to $420 in the last four years.

00:46:17.280 So a young person, a house, stocks that I don't own skyrocket in value.

00:46:22.240 Let's have COVID relief and flush the markets and take assets way up because if a million people dying would be bad, it would be tragic if I got less wealthy.

00:46:31.000 And we're doing it on their credit card.

00:46:33.720 Young people have every reason to be enraged. 1.00

00:46:36.820 And every issue they see, they look up, they get angry, and they see someone doing better than them.

00:46:41.200 And then every day it is speedballed in their face that they are failing, that they are not doing as well as everyone around them.

00:46:48.080 We have lost the script.

00:46:49.520 Our kids are more anxious and more depressed and more obese and more addicted.

00:46:53.360 And we have made a purposeful decision to let this happen by ensuring the people around this table stay wealthy at the cost of young people.

00:47:02.420 What do you make of it, Heather?

00:47:05.180 I disagree.

00:47:06.180 I think it's all over the map.

00:47:07.560 I refuse to say that young people are victims.

00:47:10.180 I don't believe they even know about housing costs.

00:47:13.340 You know, their problems are that they feel sorry for themselves.

00:47:18.980 I do not believe that if you are a hard worker, you stay away from drugs, you work hard, that you do not have a chance still in this world.

00:47:31.180 You know, yes, it's true.

00:47:32.420 They're not having sex.

00:47:33.340 You know why?

00:47:33.820 Because we're celebrating non-procreative sex all the time.

00:47:37.380 30 percent, you know, as we've heard on some high schools, identify as LGBTQ.

00:47:42.140 That is what Gay Pride March is about.

00:47:44.500 We are always celebrating non-procreative couplings and we have no respect for the traditional heterosexual family. 0.99

00:47:54.000 I think Galloway leaves out the ideology that is involved here, where we have an anti-male ideology.

00:48:02.760 Yes, there's fewer and fewer viable young men because we keep telling them that they are the source of all problems.

00:48:09.880 Good luck getting any kind of positive reinforcement if you're a young boy.

00:48:16.980 Every foundation, the federal government, every state government has you-go-girl programs up the gazoo. 0.93

00:48:24.020 Girls who code.

00:48:25.940 You know, we want more girls in STEM. 1.00

00:48:28.060 Boys are an afterthought. 0.94

00:48:30.100 This is ideological.

00:48:32.120 It is not an economic problem.

00:48:34.860 I'm not going to feel sorry for young people today.

00:48:37.940 They are participants in their own marginalization by embracing this victim ideology.

00:48:46.160 And the problem is, is that we are turning against the fundamental bourgeois values of respect for authority, respect for the family, and understanding that males and females are different, that mothers and fathers are different.

00:49:01.920 And we should respect for one's self.

00:49:05.320 I got to take a quick pause because I got to get a break in here, but much more.

00:49:08.840 Heather stays with us.

00:49:09.860 This is why I love her.

00:49:11.060 Heather is all about the bootstraps, and so am I.

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00:50:16.920 Donald Trump, as you know, is on trial now in New York State Supreme.

00:50:21.200 He's facing charges in three other courtrooms as well.

00:50:23.640 And the prosecutor, Alvin Bragg, in New York, had announced these charges a year ago.

00:50:31.600 And the only way he got to bring them was by saying,

00:50:34.620 trust me, it's not just this misdemeanor of falsifying business records,

00:50:39.760 because I realize the statute of limitations has expired on that.

00:50:42.840 He didn't say that, but that's a political reality, a legal reality for him.

00:50:45.660 But he resurrected that claim by saying, I can still bring this dead claim if it was done,

00:50:53.320 this falsification, to cover up another crime.

00:50:56.240 And then everybody looked at the indictment breathlessly and said,

00:50:58.700 what's the other crime?

00:50:59.460 What's the other crime?

00:51:00.300 And he actually looked in the caverns and said, I don't have to tell you.

00:51:04.600 So for a year, we've been speculating, what was it?

00:51:09.120 What is the other crime that he falsified the business records for?

00:51:12.020 And our best speculation has been that Bragg would argue Trump's situation with David Pecker

00:51:19.800 at the National Enquirer to bury bad stories about him and promote bad stories about his

00:51:26.440 adversaries and to buy the silence of certain women threatening to come forward with affair 0.92

00:51:32.340 allegations, that that somehow amounted to a campaign finance violation.

00:51:36.420 OK, that's where we are today.

00:51:37.900 When he actually did the opening argument, not Bragg, but his deputy, this guy Colangelo,

00:51:42.000 it didn't sound anything like that.

00:51:44.780 It sounded all about this, quote, scheme where David Pecker of the National Enquirer and Trump

00:51:50.080 and Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, got together and decided to get the women to sign NDAs in 0.99

00:51:55.020 exchange for money because it would be bad for Trump's election if they didn't.

00:51:59.360 That was it.

00:52:00.060 I don't know what that violates.

00:52:02.280 Conspiracy's not charged.

00:52:03.460 I'm not going to make you do legal analysis on this.

00:52:05.480 I'm going someplace with it.

00:52:06.560 But we I mean, all the lawyers I know truly were looking at the opening like what?

00:52:13.560 What?

00:52:14.460 What?

00:52:15.080 We need an underlying crime.

00:52:17.540 How many steps do we have to go through to get there?

00:52:20.340 How on earth are they ever going to reduce a jury instruction to something digestible by

00:52:25.180 these 12 average humans?

00:52:27.500 We're going to have to try to make sense of this and decide whether the prosecution has

00:52:30.980 proved a crime.

00:52:31.760 So that's where we are as of today.

00:52:34.740 Now, instead of sitting back and asking ourselves, maybe Alvin Bragg doesn't have it.

00:52:41.460 Maybe Alvin Bragg's Harvard law education didn't exactly do for him what we had hoped.

00:52:48.760 You've got the joy reads of the world who are having a very different reaction.

00:52:54.180 Looking at Alvin Bragg going after Trump with an incomprehensible legal theory.

00:52:59.760 Fannie Willis down in Atlanta, who we know is utterly confused by what she's doing. 1.00

00:53:06.240 She's probably too busy stupping the boyfriend on the side and then lying under oath about 1.00

00:53:11.140 it.

00:53:11.920 And then there's Jack Smith.

00:53:13.440 And OK, and then we've got Letitia James in New York, the attorney general who's gone

00:53:17.560 after Trump and won some four hundred and fifty million dollars for a civil fraud that

00:53:22.080 hurt absolutely no one.

00:53:24.640 Joy Reid is reveling in this, Heather, as follows.

00:53:28.960 For me, there is something wonderfully poetic about the fact that despite the fact that

00:53:35.640 even if convicted, he's not going to go to prison, the first person to actually criminally

00:53:41.400 prosecute Donald Trump is a black Harvard grad, the very kind of person that his former

00:53:48.100 staff, the people who worked for him, Stephen Miller, et cetera, want to never be at Harvard 0.96

00:53:54.400 law school.

00:53:55.780 But he was.

00:53:57.160 And a black woman is doing that same exact thing in Georgia. 1.00

00:54:00.660 And a black woman forced you to pay one hundred and seventy five million dollar fine. 1.00

00:54:05.040 Donald Trump is being held to account by the very multicultural, multiracial democracy

00:54:11.020 that he's trying to dismantle.

00:54:13.340 And for me, there's something poetic and actually wonderful about that.

00:54:17.500 It says something good about our country that we're still capable of having that happen.

00:54:21.220 Go, D.E.I.

00:54:22.480 If my D.E.I.'s are bringing it home.

00:54:26.980 Wow.

00:54:29.200 Wow.

00:54:29.960 Wow.

00:54:30.460 Wow.

00:54:31.080 Something good about our country that we're now playing an absolute race war. 1.00

00:54:36.340 That is truly extraordinary.

00:54:40.120 She's asking us to see everything through the lens of race that, you know, so I mean, it's

00:54:45.900 getting very trite.

00:54:47.160 It's I'm sick of hearing conservatives kind of plaintively bleat.

00:54:51.400 Well, whatever happened to the content of your character, I thought we were supposed

00:54:54.640 to be colorblind.

00:54:55.620 But for sure.

00:54:57.060 I mean, one does have to ask that question.

00:54:59.680 We're I thought we're not supposed to see race.

00:55:02.180 But of course, the left says, if you don't see my race, you're not seeing me at the same

00:55:07.060 time that they deny that there's any biological reality to race.

00:55:10.840 Sorry, that's anti-science.

00:55:12.080 There is a biological reality to race, and we are trying to to silence any kind of research

00:55:17.980 into heritability.

00:55:21.680 But in any case, Reid is basically telling us to see the race of people within the law

00:55:28.000 first and to expect a sort of race war coming out of the legal profession against a man.

00:55:36.800 This is an absolute violation, leaving aside even the race elements. 0.88

00:55:42.480 But she is is basically saying this is a vendetta against Donald Trump, against his policies.

00:55:49.440 I knew that we were in a bad situation, Megan, when it comes to the rule of law, but I didn't

00:55:55.260 know it was this bad.

00:55:56.380 But OK, so if if if if Joy Reid wants to play race card, let's let's look at what's going 0.89

00:56:03.380 on, Joe Biden, when he came into office in early 2021, his administration announced that

00:56:12.740 it would no longer be a be submitting the federal judicial nominees to the ABA for preclearance.

00:56:20.160 This is a tradition whereby presidents say to the American Bar Association, here's people

00:56:26.400 we're thinking about nominating to the federal courts.

00:56:29.500 Are they qualified?

00:56:30.440 Are they super qualified?

00:56:31.560 Are they not qualified?

00:56:32.700 Biden said we're not going to do that.

00:56:34.820 Why?

00:56:35.560 Because he said and get this.

00:56:37.500 You will appreciate this, Megan.

00:56:39.140 He said because the ABA doesn't support diversity.

00:56:43.900 The ABA, let me give you a truth, little truth nugget here.

00:56:47.680 The ABA is obsessed with diversity.

00:56:49.780 They don't care about merit.

00:56:51.080 All they care about is race.

00:56:52.740 Biden was basically saying my judicial nominees are going to be so bad that they won't even get

00:56:57.520 by the ABA. 0.88

00:56:58.260 22% of his judicial picks in the first 16 months of his administration were black females. 0.96

00:57:06.600 This is a disaster, Megan, for the following reason.

00:57:10.240 Black female lawyers make up about 2% of the lawyer population. 0.79

00:57:15.680 If you knew nothing more than that, and you're seeing about 22% of nominees and people being

00:57:21.980 put on the bench being black females, you know he is lowering standards. 1.00

00:57:26.100 Let's go a little further. 0.90

00:57:27.400 If Joy Reid is making this about race, okay, let's talk about race. 0.97

00:57:30.820 When you look at the actual skills of black law students, they are at the bottom of the barrel. 1.00

00:57:38.600 About two-thirds of black students are in the bottom half of their class. 0.95

00:57:44.540 50% are in the bottom tenth of their class.

00:57:47.860 You cannot have diversity and meritocracy on the bench at the same time.

00:57:52.980 To the extent that you have opted for diversity on the bench, you are, by definition, going

00:57:59.480 to be lowering the standards of our jurisprudence, the standards of our lawyers, the standards

00:58:05.360 of our judges.

00:58:06.900 This matters.

00:58:07.900 And you are seeing it, as you said with Megan, in the quality of the lawyering that we're

00:58:14.300 getting.

00:58:14.600 And this is not just some abstract problem.

00:58:18.500 The rule of law depends on clearly articulated standards so that private parties can plan

00:58:25.700 commercial transactions.

00:58:28.000 And it matters.

00:58:29.140 Our constitutional jurisprudence matters for maintaining the fundamental principles of our

00:58:36.240 republic.

00:58:36.700 And if we're putting people into law school, onto law faculties, based not on their capacities

00:58:43.720 to do the law and to think about very, very complicated matters.

00:58:48.060 But based on their race, we are watering down our capacity to go forward. 1.00

00:58:54.200 And that is what's happening.

00:58:56.000 And again, this is a subject that nice, well-meaning Americans do not want to talk about. 0.75

00:59:03.480 Far from being white supremacists, they are turning their eyes away from inner-city black pathologies. 1.00

00:59:10.260 But the reality is this, Megan, the skills gap between blacks on the one hand and whites

00:59:16.660 and Asians on the other is so high that you cannot have diversity and meritocracy at the 0.94

00:59:24.240 same time.

00:59:25.040 Any institution like a university, a federal bar, a law firm that tells you they're opting

00:59:32.960 for diversity is telling you they have discarded meritocratic standards when it comes to hiring

00:59:38.520 and promoting and admitting blacks.

00:59:41.500 I see your point entirely because a meritocracy will allow talented black people, brown people,

00:59:49.820 Asians, whites, whatever, to rise to the top if they deserve it, if they have the education 0.99

00:59:54.520 and the skills and the hard work ethic and so on.

00:59:57.380 But a system based purely on diversity will not allow those who are most meritorious to rise 0.84

01:00:03.940 to the top.

01:00:04.380 If it's purely on diversity, you're going to be judged by your body parts and your skin

01:00:08.660 color and so on.

01:00:09.800 It would in the absence of a skills gap.

01:00:12.100 Here's the reality.

01:00:13.180 Three percent of black seniors are ready for a career in STEM.

01:00:18.160 Three percent.

01:00:19.540 Three percent are ready for college.

01:00:22.700 And yet we have many more being pushed into these fields.

01:00:26.740 Sixty six percent of all black 12th graders do not possess even partial mastery of the most basic

01:00:32.520 12th grade math skills, such as being able to do arithmetic or reading a graph.

01:00:38.800 Sixty six percent of black 12th graders cannot do that even partially.

01:00:44.660 And yet you have our standard now of saying if we don't have 13 percent oncologists in the most

01:00:51.180 advanced cancer research labs, it's because of discrimination against qualified black cancer researchers.

01:00:58.000 No, it's because they are not in the pipeline.

01:01:02.160 The skills gap, 50 percent of black 12th graders do not possess even partial mastery of 12th grade 0.99

01:01:09.840 reading.

01:01:11.240 Again, if you are expecting 13 percent black representation in meritocratic, demanding cognitive 1.00

01:01:19.600 skills, demanding occupations, you are not going to get that without lowering standards.

01:01:26.560 The problem is the skills gap.

01:01:28.960 And that is not a problem of racism.

01:01:31.620 It is a problem of family culture.

01:01:35.160 And and so, again, if we're going to go around saying that any racial disparity is the product of racism,

01:01:42.960 and that's what the left is saying.

01:01:44.600 I just read today that a Pennsylvania convenience store chain is being sued for racial discrimination

01:01:52.860 because it uses background checks to screen for employees.

01:01:57.060 And guess what? 0.99

01:01:58.760 Blacks commit crime at so much higher rates that they get knocked out by criminal background checks. 1.00

01:02:04.880 That's not because the checks are racist. 0.99

01:02:07.200 Here's the reality, Megan.

01:02:09.920 In the post-George Floyd crime wave that we're still living through, black juveniles are shot at 100 times the rate of white juveniles.

01:02:20.720 Why?

01:02:21.720 They're not being shot by police officers. 0.89

01:02:26.180 They're not being shot by whites. 0.99

01:02:28.760 They're being shot by other blacks at 100 times the rate of white juvenile shootings. 0.99

01:02:35.480 That's the reality we're living with. 0.98

01:02:37.640 And that's the reality that the left does not want you to see.

01:02:42.040 That's so awful.

01:02:43.480 Never, never placed on a BLM sign or in the George Floyd riots.

01:02:47.660 Nothing, nothing about those stats.

01:02:49.400 But we are hearing more and more on the left this touting of record low crime rate, record low crime rate.

01:02:56.060 Of course, this is to help Joe Biden get elected.

01:02:58.900 But they're citing there is someone who does this analysis named Jeff Asher.

01:03:03.240 He's a crime analyst.

01:03:04.180 He wrote a December 2023 article on it for his newsletter talking about this 50-year decline in the crime rate.

01:03:12.900 And we heard a bunch of folks over on MSNBC touting this.

01:03:17.780 I'll give you just an example to set it up for the audience.

01:03:20.900 Sot 10.

01:03:22.460 Violent crime at nearly a 50-year low.

01:03:25.140 The facts are the facts.

01:03:26.920 Crime is near a 50-year low.

01:03:29.180 Let me say that again.

01:03:30.120 Crime in America is near a 50-year low.

01:03:32.780 Last year, the murder rates are the soppish decrease in history.

01:03:37.060 Violent crime fell to one of its lowest levels in more than 50 years.

01:03:40.960 On Earth 1, the FBI reports that violent crime in America is at a 50-year low.

01:03:46.940 And migrant crime is not a thing.

01:03:48.460 And migrant crime is not a thing.

01:03:49.740 What do you make of that, Heather?

01:03:52.860 Because I know it's one of those things to me where it's like, don't believe your lion eyes with all the crime in front of you and in your local paper and happening to your neighbor.

01:03:59.840 Believe this analysis from this guy, Jeff Asher, repeated by MSNBC, printed in The Atlantic as America's peace wave and so on.

01:04:10.460 It's smoke and mirrors.

01:04:14.180 Even Asher admitted in the study that they're all quoting that crime is still way up over 2019.

01:04:21.320 The post-George Floyd crime epidemic, the anarchy that has broken out ever since we celebrated rioters, ever since we celebrated looting, ever since we celebrated shooting at police officers, destroying police precincts, courthouses.

01:04:38.680 That has not gone away.

01:04:41.680 And Asher admitted that.

01:04:43.540 He's looking at third quarter rates of 2023.

01:04:48.800 We don't have the full 2023 data.

01:04:51.260 But here's the reality, Megan.

01:04:53.460 Carjackings in 2023 are still up 93% compared to post-pre-George Floyd race riots of 2019.

01:05:04.960 Car thefts are up 105% compared to 2019.

01:05:11.580 Homicides are up 18%.

01:05:13.440 And if you go back further to when the real glorification of, frankly, black crime began in 2014 with the whole Michael Brown hands up, don't shoot narrative that was completely false,

01:05:30.160 but that was amplified by the mainstream media and CNN and MSNBC, homicides are up 40% in 2022 compared to 2014.

01:05:40.480 The reality today remains anarchy unlike we've ever seen the types of lootings, the shameless strolls through supermarkets and convenience stores and jewelry stores with people without any fear of punishment, just dumping goods into their, into their knapsacks.

01:06:02.580 We've never had to lock up toothpaste before.

01:06:05.560 This is not a mark of a civilization.

01:06:07.860 The basic obligation of government is to protect property.

01:06:13.720 The expectation of small business owners, it is not doing that.

01:06:17.800 This is a crime wave that is completely voluntary.

01:06:21.360 It is a creation of bad political government choices that are based on the same issue that if criminal law enforcement has a disparate impact on black criminals, it must be racist law enforcement. 0.97

01:06:34.840 And so we have decided, or the elites have decided, we are not going to enforce the law because we would rather put up with more black crime and more black victimization than put more black criminals in jail. 1.00

01:06:48.140 And the results speak for themselves. 0.98

01:06:50.720 This is not a mirage.

01:06:52.880 It's not a phantom.

01:06:54.040 There was a Washington Post reporter that was bitching about, oh, a moral panic over shoplifting and mass theft in crime, in property.

01:07:07.880 It's not a moral panic.

01:07:09.960 If government cannot protect law-abiding citizens and their expectations of safety and the safety of their property, that is a failed government that has lost its legitimacy.

01:07:22.780 The problem is widespread, and the news media is complicit, as you know.

01:07:31.980 There are a couple of examples of this that I'd like to get to, but before I do, I just want to mention, on the Daily Mail just this morning, Walmart removes self-checkouts and swaps back to traditional lanes, but it's not because they care about customer service.

01:07:45.700 It's happening in Missouri and Ohio because people are stealing.

01:07:49.080 They can't be trusted to go through the self-checkout, and as you know, everything, everything is under lock and key now.

01:07:55.800 Shampoo.

01:07:56.540 You know, it used to be the stuff that people could use, like Sudafed, to make drugs, and now everything.

01:08:02.040 Call attendant, call attendant, call attendant.

01:08:03.700 It's just such a hassle to go, which is, of course, why none of us want to go to these stores anymore.

01:08:07.420 We just want to use Amazon, funding the lifestyle of Jeff Bezos and his weird wife. 0.99

01:08:14.400 This morning in Los Angeles, there was a stabbing.

01:08:17.500 Listen to this, Heather.

01:08:18.160 So it happened, sorry, Monday morning, 5 a.m., but the videotape has just made the news.

01:08:25.000 67-year-old woman fatally stabbed Myrna Souza Arauz, stabbed in the throat.

01:08:31.360 It was unprovoked.

01:08:33.000 She was stabbed as she was exiting the train onto the platform area.

01:08:38.400 The police reported out a description of the male.

01:08:42.640 He's since been arrested, and this is how they reported it.

01:08:46.240 Take a listen to the KTLA report.

01:08:48.160 The victim stabbed in the throat.

01:08:51.460 The ambulance was called, and the woman was treated by paramedics, but no word on the extent of her injuries or her condition right now.

01:08:58.000 As for the suspect, police say it was a man carrying two bags.

01:09:01.340 We don't have any other description at this point.

01:09:03.400 So this woman did later die, and it later came out.

01:09:08.520 They found the assailant, and it was a black man.

01:09:12.880 He's under arrest now.

01:09:14.600 They strongly believe that he may have victimized other people, and they urged anyone who believed they were targeted by him to come forward.

01:09:20.820 Police now say he has a troubling, violent criminal history, including previous assaults.

01:09:24.940 He did four years in prison on an assault with a deadly weapon and an enhancement for inflicting great bodily injury.

01:09:31.180 He served about half the sentence before he was released in 2022.

01:09:33.540 So they won't say, in trying to track down the man while he was still at large, the color of his skin.

01:09:41.680 And of course, they would never have withheld that if it had been a white man. 0.58

01:09:45.380 It's suicide.

01:09:48.620 I mean, we have just decided we're going to cancel ourselves.

01:09:51.920 You cannot go around coddling criminals on some phony theory of racial justice.

01:10:01.420 And, you know, I'll play the black card here. 0.99

01:10:03.940 If you don't put away black criminals, it's going to be primarily disproportionately blacks who are victimized, 1.00

01:10:12.280 dozens of blacks who are shot every day fatally by other blacks. 1.00

01:10:17.820 This is unbelievable. 0.97

01:10:18.780 That's more than all white and Hispanic homicide victims combined, even though blacks are only 13 percent of the population. 0.94

01:10:25.580 So if your only concern is black lives, you should be wanting to lock people away. 1.00

01:10:30.480 But let's also not pretend that there is not huge interracial crime issues that goes in the exact opposite 0.90

01:10:39.880 than what we're told by the mainstream media.

01:10:43.300 If you look at all non-lethal interracial violence between blacks and whites and whites and blacks,

01:10:48.600 and I say non-lethal because this is based on self-reporting.

01:10:52.780 So if you're dead, you can't self-report.

01:10:54.800 But the National Crime Victimization Survey shows us that blacks commit about 87 percent of all interracial violence 0.88

01:11:03.980 between blacks and whites and whites and blacks, a black person is 33 times more likely to commit a stabbing, 0.96

01:11:12.200 a drive-by shooting, a rape, a robbery against a white than vice versa. 0.89

01:11:17.380 The narrative is the exact opposite, and it's true for cops as well, Megan. 0.98

01:11:22.220 We're all supposed to believe that blacks are at huge risk from police officers.

01:11:27.640 The reality is the opposite. 0.95

01:11:30.740 In 2021, a police officer was 400 times more likely to be killed by a black person than an unarmed black 0.68

01:11:39.660 was likely to be fatally shot by a police officer.

01:11:44.300 So if the libertarians among us, if the cop haters among us like Radley Balco go around saying how safe it is

01:11:51.180 to be a police officer, notwithstanding the spate of fatal shootings of police officers during car stops,

01:11:57.460 not just in New York, but last week in Memphis, Tennessee, that it's so great to be a police officer, 0.94

01:12:03.980 well, it's 400 times safer to be a black person vis-a-vis the cops as it is to be a cop vis-a-vis a black person. 0.62

01:12:13.600 So everything the public thinks it knows about race, crime, and policing from the mainstream media is wrong,

01:12:20.800 reverse it, and you have the truth. 0.99

01:12:23.600 It's blacks who are killing each other. 1.00

01:12:25.980 Police are the solution to black lives being lost. 1.00

01:12:30.760 They are not the source of black lives being lost. 0.98

01:12:33.840 If you care about blacks, you should want to have strong law enforcement. 0.86

01:12:38.660 And we should, from now on, the rule should be, Megan, this is not normal what we're living through.

01:12:44.120 This is a self-created, chosen life that we're inflicting on ourselves.

01:12:50.680 No more second chances.

01:12:51.980 I'm sorry.

01:12:53.320 No more.

01:12:54.020 No, it's true.

01:12:54.500 I have been to the south side of Chicago, and it's sad.

01:12:58.500 It's depressing.

01:12:59.780 It's heartbreaking.

01:13:01.140 I've met with the moms whose half their sons are in prison.

01:13:04.680 Their husbands, they split.

01:13:06.660 There's not a father in the family.

01:13:08.280 They're supportive of one another.

01:13:09.580 These moms live in fear when their kids go outside, that they're going to get shot, that 1.00

01:13:13.420 they're going to get pulled into gang violence.

01:13:15.340 They don't know what to do.

01:13:16.360 Of course, they're for this sort of restorative justice where we're less harsh in the penalties

01:13:22.400 because it's all their family members.

01:13:24.800 And they've been totally abandoned by the system.

01:13:28.520 They've been forgotten about.

01:13:30.000 No one cared about them during the BLM riots.

01:13:33.680 No one was talking about their communities.

01:13:35.860 They stifled it all just this month, just as my daughter celebrated her 13th birthday,

01:13:43.560 an eight-year-old girl and seven others, the girl was killed.

01:13:48.540 Seven others were wounded, including a one-year-old boy and a seven-year-old boy, each shot multiple

01:13:53.800 times in Chicago.

01:13:56.600 And they said this was not a random act.

01:13:58.980 This was likely gang-related.

01:14:00.780 Of course, the CNN article about it goes on to blame guns.

01:14:06.620 Firearms are the number one killer of children and teens in America.

01:14:09.980 OK.

01:14:10.440 It's not how many guns there are in Dallas.

01:14:13.500 This doesn't happen there.

01:14:14.980 This happens in Chicago.

01:14:16.080 And they won't get honest about the problem.

01:14:18.860 By the way, for all those people on MSNBC singing about the lovely crime-free America

01:14:24.320 we now live in, in 2024, homicides of children.

01:14:28.680 We took a look, zero to 14.

01:14:30.600 This year, just as of April 23rd, it's already at 14.

01:14:34.440 In all of 2023, it was 17.

01:14:37.160 This is just in Chicago.

01:14:38.380 Children, 14 and under.

01:14:41.460 In all of last year, it was 17.

01:14:43.220 We're already at 14.

01:14:44.880 In April, it goes on.

01:14:48.320 So we've forgotten about this group of Americans who are suffering because we won't get honest

01:14:54.540 about what's actually killing them.

01:14:56.420 And at the same time, Chicagoans are protesting the death of Dexter Reed, this guy who pulled

01:15:01.920 out his gun when pulled over by cops, shot at them first.

01:15:05.400 And then they unleashed 96 rounds against him, demanding that the cops be fired and prosecuted.

01:15:11.500 There was a big protest about it just the other day at the Chicago Police Board meeting, saying

01:15:16.900 the problem in his death was the, quote, pretextual traffic stop and not anything other than that.

01:15:23.980 They're not protesting about what's happening with these kids and the dead eight-year-old

01:15:28.240 girl, Heather. 0.96

01:15:29.860 Well, I'm so sick of Black Lives Matter activists and their ilk. 1.00

01:15:33.260 It's just preposterous. 0.99

01:15:34.700 They don't deserve a single moment of any of our time.

01:15:38.020 I will believe that they believe the Black Lives Matter activists when I see a single 1.00

01:15:42.980 protest about these Black children that are gunned down.

01:15:46.080 It has never happened once.

01:15:47.940 Al Shompton has never been there once.

01:15:50.060 Benjamin Crump has never been there once. 0.91

01:15:51.900 They don't give a damn. 0.99

01:15:52.920 This is all about attacking white people. 1.00

01:15:56.340 It's based on hatred of white people that we're supposed to pretend that whites are the 1.00

01:16:01.640 problem in these Black communities or the police are the problem in these Black communities. 0.99

01:16:06.160 No, the fathers who are absent are the problem in these Black communities. 0.99

01:16:11.140 The lack of parenting, of decent parenting, is the problem of these Black communities. 1.00

01:16:17.020 Gun control is not the issue. 0.64

01:16:18.940 It's lack of impulse control.

01:16:21.740 These are kids that have been not—they don't have socialization.

01:16:26.000 If they feel dissed, they pull out a gun and they randomly shoot across city sidewalks and

01:16:32.080 they don't care who they shoot out.

01:16:33.620 America turns its eyes away.

01:16:35.960 Again, let's remember, we're supposed to believe we're a white supremacist society.

01:16:41.240 Instead, we are not. 0.88

01:16:42.680 We don't even want to talk about Black crime anymore because it makes white people feel 0.96

01:16:46.920 bad. 0.95

01:16:47.860 We somehow blame ourselves for this.

01:16:50.040 Yes, you feel offensive or somehow—I don't know.

01:16:55.660 It makes you feel uncomfortable.

01:16:57.640 You're not generalizing, of course, about all Black people at all, but we need to get

01:17:01.320 honest about what the actual crime rate is, where it's coming from, and why before we'll

01:17:07.260 ever solve it.

01:17:08.180 You've been saying that for years.

01:17:10.020 And to your point, one other thing, the national homicide rate in 2022 was 40% higher

01:17:16.320 than it was in 2014, pre-Michael Brown.

01:17:20.240 And whenever we see one of these things, Michael Brown, Freddie Gray, George Floyd, the media

01:17:26.340 participates.

01:17:27.380 They create a firestorm around race and Blacks and whites and cops. 1.00

01:17:30.760 And every time, what happens is more Black people die. 1.00

01:17:35.280 More Blacks die because cops pull back. 1.00

01:17:37.800 The inner cities are ignored. 0.99

01:17:39.640 Gang violence goes up.

01:17:41.160 The next thing you know, an eight-year-old girl is dead.

01:17:44.080 A one-year-old and seven-year-old boy are shot in the head.

01:17:46.620 No one's paying any attention to it.

01:17:48.140 It's just, how many times do we have to go through this cycle, right?

01:17:51.460 And still, that same community is pointing to a totally justified police-involved shooting

01:17:56.780 that was only unleashed once they were shot upon.

01:17:59.540 It's just, we're not solving anything.

01:18:01.820 Well, they voted for Brandon Johnson.

01:18:03.840 You know, it was the West Side and the South Side that got in to the mayoralty in Chicago,

01:18:08.680 a guy who was on record as a sort of a defund the police type.

01:18:13.980 And he goes around saying these are crimes of people that have children that have been

01:18:19.000 denied opportunity.

01:18:20.200 This is just BS.

01:18:21.220 Let's get this one off the table as well, Megan.

01:18:24.060 These are not crimes of necessity.

01:18:25.940 Very, there's almost no crimes of necessity.

01:18:28.760 These are crimes of entitlement.

01:18:30.540 These are crimes of people who feel that they are justified in taking other people's

01:18:35.260 property just because it's owed them.

01:18:37.360 The smartphone, social media is the police's biggest friend because all these kids have

01:18:42.320 smartphones and they throw their gang signs on the phones.

01:18:45.300 They show off their guns.

01:18:46.640 They show off their money.

01:18:47.980 They show off their bling.

01:18:49.740 Any child who has a smartphone is not deprived.

01:18:52.680 And, you know, we're also supposed to believe from the left, oh, this is all because of

01:18:56.420 COVID and lockdowns and whatnot.

01:18:58.440 No, excuse me.

01:18:59.440 The only place where crime went up in the world, violent crime rose during the COVID pandemic

01:19:05.900 was the United States.

01:19:06.980 And that's because we stopped enforcing the law.

01:19:09.680 It was because it was after George Floyd when crime went up.

01:19:13.980 This was not the result of lockdowns.

01:19:16.740 Crime went down every place else.

01:19:18.700 And it is not the fault of somehow poverty or deprivation.

01:19:23.880 These kids are not poor.

01:19:25.700 They are poor in social capital.

01:19:28.220 They have not been taught to defer gratification, to control their impulses. 0.97

01:19:32.860 And, of course, we are not speaking about all blacks.

01:19:36.340 I've made a career out of going into community inner city meetings with the police and giving

01:19:42.640 voice to these good law abiding black people, elderly residents who are terrified to go into 1.00

01:19:49.200 the street or terrified to go into their building lobby because it's been colonized by youth who

01:19:53.760 are trespassing, smoking weed, selling drugs.

01:19:56.740 They beg the police, arrest the dealers, keep them off the streets, arrest the truant school

01:20:02.260 children.

01:20:03.260 Why don't you arrest them for loitering any longer?

01:20:06.440 Those people deserve to be heard.

01:20:08.540 You said they've been abandoned by people.

01:20:10.280 No, the people who care are like white conservatives. 1.00

01:20:14.180 When the white conservative media stops caring about black lives, then they're really screwed. 0.99

01:20:19.920 But as long as the Democrats are in power, they're going to continue to be screwed because 0.99

01:20:23.240 nobody wants to look at the pathologies head on and least of all the Democrats.

01:20:28.400 Yeah, you're not going to hear any of those stats from Rachel Maddow or Morning Joe.

01:20:34.320 They're just or Joe Biden.

01:20:35.460 They're just going to celebrate.

01:20:36.600 It's solved or it's all great.

01:20:38.840 All right.

01:20:39.260 We'll end it on a happy note on a piece of good news.

01:20:41.880 This we got via end wokeness on X.

01:20:44.080 We love that account of retweeting X user.

01:20:46.000 Kevin Dalton is law and order returning to Los Angeles.

01:20:49.960 A suspect breaks into a home.

01:20:52.260 There was an immediate and overwhelming police response.

01:20:55.740 The nonviolent criminal goes to jail on one hundred thousand dollar bail.

01:21:01.120 Yay.

01:21:01.460 OK, this is progress.

01:21:02.680 What changed?

01:21:03.900 Oh, I see.

01:21:04.700 It's the home of L.A.

01:21:06.980 Mayor Karen Bass, a person who she was home when it happened.

01:21:12.260 She's fine.

01:21:13.580 They sent air support to that one.

01:21:16.940 Heather, Karen Bass, who introduced the George Floyd policing bill in Congress, banned chokeholds, 0.99

01:21:23.800 banned no knock warrants at the federal level, eliminated qualified immunity for law enforcement

01:21:28.060 and that established a national police misconduct registry once police held accountable.

01:21:33.460 She got air support sent to her house and the guys in jail for that one. 0.81

01:21:38.660 Regular Los Angeles, different story, black or white.

01:21:42.880 You're not going to get the star treatment.

01:21:45.020 This woman, it's police for me, but not for the I'll give you the last word, my friend. 0.86

01:21:51.200 Voter out.

01:21:51.980 I mean, you know, we've heard the expression conservatives are liberals who've been mugged by reality.

01:21:56.260 I doubt whether Bass is going to turn into a conservative, but people got to vote.

01:22:00.920 They got to vote out George Gascon, the left wing prosecutor in L.A.

01:22:06.020 We still have, believe it or not, we do have the power of the ballot. 1.00

01:22:09.460 These people are hypocrites. 0.99

01:22:11.920 They look out for themselves. 1.00

01:22:13.860 They have lost all sense of what a government exists to do, which is to protect the law abiding,

01:22:20.840 not to protect the dysfunctional, not to protect the antisocial.

01:22:25.260 It is time to get back to a respect for people who play by the rules.

01:22:31.380 Those are the people who deserve the support of government, not those who want to tear everything down.

01:22:38.460 We've got to take our system back, Megan, and we still have the power to do it as long as people show up and vote.

01:22:46.700 Well said.

01:22:48.020 Heather McDonald, enjoy Vienna.

01:22:49.900 Thank you for making time for us when you have all this beauty and wonder around you.

01:22:54.260 Great to see you.

01:22:55.940 Better talk with you, Megan.

01:22:57.360 Thank you so much.

01:23:01.900 Thanks for listening to The Megan Kelly Show.

01:23:04.820 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - April 24, 2024

Truth About Violent Crime in America, Ignorant Campus Protesters, and Left Indoctrination, with Heather Mac Donald ｜ Ep. 774

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