Truth About Violent Crime in America, Ignorant Campus Protesters, and Left Indoctrination, with Heather Mac Donald ｜ Ep. 774
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A midnight deadline came and went for the anti-Israel protesters to remove their tents from Columbia University grounds and disband their so-called "People's University of Palestine" protest. Instead of holding fast to their deadline, Columbia extended the negotiations, giving the protesters another 48 hours. The administration called this progress, but at the same time, Hamas terrorists have just published a new propaganda video.
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A midnight deadline came and went for the anti-Israel protesters
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and disband their so-called People's University of Palestine.
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People are paying $70,000 a year to send their kid to this school
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And indeed, perhaps it was all part of the plan
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because Columbia's politics were no mystery to anyone applying there.
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Columbia extended the negotiations, giving the protesters another 48 hours.
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For those of you hoping your child would continue to be educated there,
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Apparently, the two sides are going back and forth,
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How does that work when your three-year-old is throwing a fit
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over not getting the truck in the store aisle at the grocery store
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Because you don't teach bad lessons to a toddler
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the university's chapter of Students for Justice in Palestine,
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which pretty much at every turn has espoused rhetoric
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that makes it closer to students for the death of Jews,
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a masked man told the protesters to be ready over the next three days
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to turn out quickly if needed to defend the encampment
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We are entering a period of high alert for the next three days.
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And that is why I urge all of you to talk to your friends as well
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and let them know that we may need people to turn up quickly,
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en masse, in front of the encampment to defend the encampment.
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some of the most privileged people in human history
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who pay, I guess it's $90,000 a year to attend Columbia.
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Oh, help band together, comrades, the oppression.
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The administration claims they backed off the deadline
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after the students complied with fire department's safety requirements.
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And vowed to remove discriminatory and harassing language
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from the encampment, like Al-Qa-San's next targets.
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encouraging them to target those annoying Jews standing behind her.
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At the same time, Hamas terrorists have just published
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not just their supporters in college campuses across America.
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So the actual Hamas terrorists have just published
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We don't air these videos and we're not going to air this video.
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it was good news because it harkened back to a story
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And we knew the name of 23-year-old Hirsch Goldberg Poland
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Her name is Rachel Goldberg in the New York Times.
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I Hope Someone Somewhere is Being Kind to My Boy.
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I mean, how would you feel if you were a parent of somebody who'd sent their kid to Barnard,
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not expecting that they couldn't go to class, not expecting if they're Jewish,
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that they would have to be subjected to death to the Jew chants as she walked to math?
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Well, I hope it wakes up a lot of parents and I hope it wakes up donors.
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I hope it wakes up alumni, because, again, none of this is surprising.
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You know, we're heading towards a real conflict here,
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because what the wise people are calling anti-Semitism,
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for most of the campus left, as you say, Megan,
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They see it as a factual description of settler colonialism.
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So I'm wondering how much longer the left is going to put up with having
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the president's now scurrying to say we've got a problem on campus
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when the problem doesn't even exist in the eyes of the left.
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Students should be punished if they are violating neutral rules of conduct,
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if they're protesting, agitating against neutral rules of time, place, and manner.
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But they should not be punished for any speech.
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Because, Megan, if we, the conservatives, the traditionalists who have been arguing
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that the left should not be penalizing people who argue that there are two biological sexes,
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that you cannot change the chromosomes in your body by cutting off your sex organs,
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you do not thereby make yourself a member of the opposite sex.
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People who say that schools are not racist, the reason we don't have proportional representation
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If the right now turns around and says they want to punish these anti-Israel statements,
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they are going to set a precedent that will come back to haunt us yet again.
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And it is always eventually going to be conservative truth speakers who are silenced by any kind
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of speech code, by any capitulation to the idea that hate speech somehow falls outside of protections
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So I think as hard as it is to listen to these chants from the river to the sea of, you know,
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intifada revolution, celebrating our martyrs, we have to know this is going on.
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The more these students chant these hateful chants, the more the public finally learns
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what has been going on on college campuses for the last three decades.
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So let's just spend a minute on that, because I know our audience should know that you're
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Because you and I would probably be kicked off campus for just saying the things about
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gender that you just said, and you've gotten harassed off campus for saying even less controversial
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But we wouldn't be allowed, even at a Ron DeSantis school in Florida, a state university
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in Florida, to go onto a campus and find a group of trans kids meeting together for support
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to surround them and chant death to the tranny bastards, death, death, death.
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So like there is an amount of free speech or I agree hate speech is protected by the
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Constitution, but you can get to the level of targeted harassment where you lose your
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Like, I really think some of these words, I agree, like from the river to the sea is I
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But death to the Jews and here's Al-Qasam's next target right here, right?
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You're getting a lot closer to speech that could be like problematic legally.
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And unless it is really, really targeted at a specific individual, these are still basically
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I don't think anybody really feels like, I mean, it may come to this and let's just hope
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it does not, that somebody hears a chant like that and picks up a knife and stabs a Jewish
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So, yes, I guess if your example of death to trannies, I guess I just feel like we, to silence
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that sentiment prevents us from knowing what these students have been taught.
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And again, this is this, we're not saying this is happening, that the right is saying
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this, what this is overwhelmingly coming from the left.
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So you're saying even if the university could censor it under its free speech policies that
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prevent targeted discrimination or bullying, why would they?
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It's, we, this is, again, it's a clarifying moment.
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And I think that apart from very, very specific targeted threats, it's also a mistake.
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And I'm sympathetic to Jewish students on campus, but they are starting to use the same rhetoric
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And there have been actually very few assaults.
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I sound like I've got a very low standard here, Megan.
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It's, it's pathetic that we're having to say, well, things are okay, because nobody's actually,
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in very few instances of Jews actually gotten beaten up.
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But given the ideological context in which we're living, in which it is the, it is right
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wing or conservative, truthful speech that is silenced all the time, we've got to allow
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it on the left so that we can try to, to, to use this moment to say, okay, you, University
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of Pennsylvania, Harvard, if you guys are claiming we can't silence this because we are so committed
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to free speech, okay, well, tell us about Amy Wax, tell us about, you know, Carolyn Hooven
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at, at, at Harvard, who voluntarily resigned because she was so harassed by saying that sex
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is biological, you can't have it both ways left.
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You cannot censor, uh, the right, and at the same time claim that free speech demands that
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people go around chanting, celebrating our, our, our Hamas martyrs.
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It's so crazy because when you zoom out and you, you know, the, Caroline Hooven is a good
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example when the right gets canceled on college campuses.
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And as I mentioned, you've been subjected to this.
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It's like one speaker who came on to give a lecture that's well thought out and has some
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And these universities are 100% fine with that.
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And then look at this full encampments, preventing Jews from going across campus, forming a line
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so that they can't come into the encampment, like being excluded.
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We saw at the one university where they were held in a library that, you know, where people
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were banging on their doors against them, threatening them.
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That now the university is going to stand up in favor of our, our favorite principal.
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I would say this, you know, Trump has said something close to this.
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And of course the, the media went absolutely crazy, but it's true.
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Frankly, let's be honest, Megan, liberal Jews have been supporting their intersectional
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I don't know how they vote for the democratic party because this ideology of hatred towards
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It is the official credo of the democratic party.
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You have the, the Biden white house who continues to jam, uh, racial preferences, racial quotas,
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sexual preferences through every federal agency, through every science granting agency into the
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universities, into the K through 12, demanding trans, uh, brainwashing of children.
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And we are seeing it's hateful, ugly face on college campuses.
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This should be a, a major, major theme in the coming elections.
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If you want more of this type of hatred, vote for Democrats.
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It's been amazing to me to watch since 10, seven, the, some of these liberal Jewish Americans
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have the light bulb go off on top of their head.
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I'm thinking of, for example, Bill Ackman, right?
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This billionaire investor, and he's been very outspoken about now DEI on college campuses.
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And I appreciate people like Bill Ackman, who's got power and influence and a lot of money
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joining the fight, but there are many who have been fighting this with every fiber of their
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And have been called every name in the book without any support from people like Bill.
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And it's like a great, you know, pick up arms, rhetorical arms and fight right alongside of us.
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But some humility for the fact that you missed it all while it was happening, in my view, is in order.
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And again, the Jewish donors that have finally woken up, don't let it end here.
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Don't be bought off with, oh, we're going to add anti-Semitism training to the portfolio of DEI.
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That was Bill Ackman's original proposal when this all started.
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And he said he was so shocked that Jews weren't included in the marginalized groups
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against the majority on campus, you know, as if the majority, there is no majority on campus.
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The one victimized group that's on campus these days is heterosexual white males.
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They are the last to be hired, the last to be admitted.
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Of course, the Asians have to be 10 times as good as anybody else.
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But if you're a heterosexual white male, forget it.
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But Ackman's initial position was, well, gee, you know, the Jews are oppressed by this somehow phantom
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There's still a lot of people holding on to that.
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I mean, these these protest signs of queers for Palestine just shows how fundamentally
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So they apparently don't even know how people in Muslim countries or in the Middle East, Muslim
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Good luck holding a gay pride march in Gaza or on the West Bank.
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So the intersectional coalition is now it's it's holding together fine, except for Jews.
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And of course, it's Jews should be really kind of miffed about this.
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They were essential to the civil rights movement.
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They were essential to the anti-apartheid movement.
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You have South Africa dragging Israel into the world court for genocide, which is a preposterous
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And you have the majority black politicians now siding with their Palestinian brothers in
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This is ridiculous and claiming that Jews are somehow the main threat to blacks and to
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So this, again, should be a movement to basically shut down as much of the universities as we can,
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create as many alternatives as we can, and for people to speak up for Western civilization,
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which has given us the very foundational ideas that the left uses against the West.
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Equality, tolerance, human rights, limited government.
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And now the left uses the bounty of beautiful Enlightenment ideas to try and tear down the
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I've decided to destroy our birth rate and to flood our country with cultures that, in
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We cannot assimilate the number of people who are coming, and we've decided we don't even
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And, of course, the most galling thing, Megan, is that the left in the morning says the U.S.
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and Europe are the most oppressive places on Earth.
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They are fundamentally hostile to people of color.
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Their grounding ideology is one of white supremacy.
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And in the afternoon, they say any country that does not have open borders, any Western
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country does not have open borders to allow as many millions of people want to come from
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third world places of color that the West is then oppressive.
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You can't say that the West is endemically lethal to people of color and at the same time
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say we want as many people of color to come in illegally into Western countries as possible
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because that's where their lives will be improved.
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You either say the West is racist or you get to say everybody comes in.
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Or as they now put it, it's not safe for brown and black bodies.
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This discussion is reminding me of a couple of headlines I retweeted today from the Babylon
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Bee, which is always great in these situations.
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Columbia protesters clarify they only want death to America after America is done paying
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Palestine, Palestinian protester or Palestine protester tries to argue with skinhead, but
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And then there's a Columbia student leaves lecture on microaggressions to attend kill the
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If you feel like you are the victim of microaggressions on campus and that claim of victimhood has catapulted
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you to the top of the victim totem pole, you have a lot of power and you get drunk with power.
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And, you know, you started, Megan, with the Columbia administrators sort of tiptoeing around the
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tents and saying, well, we're going to give you another 48 hours.
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That's because at the same time as we have this profoundly radical and hate-filled ideology of sort of make-believe
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radicalism and Marxism on college campuses, you have at the same time the very epitome of a capitalist
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ideology, which is the student as consumer and adults creating the, you know, the climbing
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walls and the Starbucks cafes at every corner on college campuses and redoing the dormitories
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You know, I visited Yale several years ago and in the Berkeley dining hall, they had tastings of
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And at the same time, you know, the Yale students, the minority students are out there claiming
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They're throwing tantrums against the renowned sociologist Nicholas Christock is telling him
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to shut up and, you know, who the fuck invited you because we as black students are so victimized
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At the same time, they have olive oil, virgin olive oil tastings.
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It's a profoundly decadent environment that is about anything but knowledge.
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These students should be down on their knees in gratitude.
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Here's the New York Post on what we're seeing at your alma mater, Yale, where you went undergrad,
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decrying capitalism while munching on fresh sushi Monday.
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Well, while supposedly, by the way, engaging in a week long hunger strike.
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And then they go on to write, but the festive atmosphere continued even after some were arrested
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as some protesters paired off to do some salsa dancing, wide smiles plastered on their faces
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as they took a well-deserved break from denouncing free enterprise and their university, $85,000
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I mean, these are the most spoiled people in human history.
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You know, we thought that the monarchy was bad.
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I think authorities, they were great artistic patrons.
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I'm in Vienna and I love they supported a style of music, of architecture that is unperiled in its beauty.
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But, you know, we think, oh, those spoiled kings and aristocrats that lived off everybody else.
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These students are living off of everybody else.
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They have no idea what it took to create the prosperity that they take for granted.
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Every fabric, every material around you was the product of this extraordinary 400-year race
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to create knowledge, to transform human existence from what was millennia of the most swallowed,
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disease-filled, poverty-stricken, famine-stricken existence where you barely eked out to now our problem is obesity.
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Capitalism, free market economy has been so successful that we are drowning in goods.
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And meanwhile, we're tearing down science by saying if any standard of excellence has a disparate impact on Black and Hispanic students,
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We should get rid of credentializing in medicine.
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We should credentialize on the basis of race, not knowledge of medicine.
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We should hire and promote on the basis of race, not knowledge of how to save a cancer victim or how to solve a heart attack victim.
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We are the federal government under Biden is handing out billions of dollars of federal taxpayer money
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based not on who is the best oncologist or who is the best neurologist to try and cure Alzheimer's disease or Parkinson's disease,
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But of course, if you're East Asian, that doesn't count.
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In fact, our science profession right now is extraordinarily multinational, multicultural, multiracial.
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The only groups who are not proportionally represented are Blacks and Hispanics.
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It's because the grasp of math and science concepts is so low.
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It begins in a culture of anti-academic achievement.
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We should not be tearing down our standards, Megan.
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But we are a culture now that is engaged in self-loathing.
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And when the West tears itself down, there's going to be nothing left.
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And we'll see what happens if the West can continuously self-cancels.
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I mean, they are now beating us in many types of nanotechnologies because they do care about merit.
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They're not handing scientific and math privileges out based on identity politics.
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They're saying, I'm going to find the best math talent among the student body, and I'm going to throw everything we've got.
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But meanwhile, America is tearing down gifted and talented programs because of the usual race issue.
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And we're tearing down our criminal law enforcement because of the usual race issue.
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This is how a society destroys excellence and civilization.
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They've been using the term Selma envy to describe a lot of these students, right?
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They're just so desperate to be part of something that matters, and they missed that particular movement.
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And so now they're finding something else and falsely trying to compare themselves to people who actually did suffer and didn't endure a lot in order to change this country by claiming they're on a hunger strike.
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When really they're ordering sushi to their George Soros funded tent by claiming, you know, woe is me while they're sneaking off for a little salsa dancing by as Ilan Omar's daughter who went to Barnard.
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She goes there now was suspended in connection with one of these protests, calling herself now homeless because she got suspended temporarily and saying she was the victim of a chemical weapons attack.
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Heather, because one of the students sprayed a gas, meaning fart spray on campus that is non-toxic.
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It says so on the bottle. And she, without mentioning that's what happened, just goes on MSNBC and says, I was the victim of a chemical weapons attack.
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Sure, sure you were, Isla or Isra, whatever her name is.
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I mean, we're basically putting a target on our backs and saying, come and invade.
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I mean, this is such a decadent society. We do not have martial virtues anymore.
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I wish I could send these people into comment. Obviously, nobody wants to be at war.
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But these are people who are living a fiction and are completely soft.
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We have lost any sense of realism and martial virtues.
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It is completely pathetic, but it's all comes to, I remember in the 1990s, you would have faculty writing op-eds in the New York Times saying,
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Oh, where's the student protest? No, you know what?
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Here's the only thing you're obliged to do and should do on a college campus is learn.
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Shut up and learn some history. Shut up and learn some chemistry. Shut up and learn some literature.
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Listen to Mozart. Listen to Brahms. Listen to Chauvin.
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Study Tiepolo. Study John Milton. Study the periodic table.
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There is, you have four years to confront and absorb the greatness of people who went before you, who make you look like pygmies.
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You should really not be heard. We don't care what you think.
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Conservatives make the mistake of saying, oh, well, college is all about debate and free speech and critical thinking.
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Yeah, I, you know, I'm a little less enamored of that concept.
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What it should be really about is cramming as much knowledge into the empty noggins of these pathetic crybabies as is possible in four years.
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And then if you want to go out after college and and debate whether Trump is a fascist or how many sex organs we should lop off of adolescence today, that's fine.
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But right now you should be devoted to one thing, and that is overcoming your embarrassing ignorance about the world and your place in it.
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That is so well said. I've got I've got to play this soundbite.
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I'm going to front it by telling you, I don't know exactly how he got it or whether he was there.
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But Rudy Giuliani posted it on X of a student and her friend who were at the NYU protest.
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And what would you say is the main goal with tonight's protest?
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I think the goal is just showing our support for Palestine and demanding that NYU stops.
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I came from Columbia. I was there from Columbia and we came down.
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Some people were saying it was getting dangerous.
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They're doing this because they're in a college campus and time is running out.
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What will they do when they don't have the bureaucrats to go around handing them out little
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cookies and saying, well, we're going to negotiate.
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You can pretend like you're hostages and we're negotiating with you and you're in danger.
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They'll be thrown out into the real world and there'll be nobody to negotiate with.
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They're like little babies swaddled by all of the DEI bureaucrats and the student services
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bureaucrats and the vice presidents of first gen students.
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They're addicted to melodrama and to fiction because they are living in fictional worlds.
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They have more freedom than has ever been experienced in all of human history.
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And yet they live in a world that perversely celebrates victimhood by self-acclamation.
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Let's give them a map with all of the country's names wiped out.
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And let's see if they can even find Gaza on a map, much less Jordan.
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This is completely as much of a social contagion as the trans thing is.
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It is adolescents striving to have power over adults, which is what every adult craves, whether
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it's claiming that you've been misgendered and so you can crush an adult under your thumb
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or claiming that you are in solidarity with Palestine and therefore are yourself somehow
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I'd be impressed if that young woman can find her way back to Colombia.
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I'm not sure she's going to be able to do it, given her knowledge base there.
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By the way, that Isra Omar is the Jussie Smollett of the Colombia protests.
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She is somebody who is looking for fake victimhood, like so many her young age are.
00:41:23.220
Okay, so hey, there's so much to get to, but I want to show this.
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We're on the subject of the salsa and the sushi and the fake chemical weapons attacks
00:41:31.400
and how none of these people is really a victim at these $85,000 a year schools.
00:41:38.100
Heather, they've taken to dancing to express, I guess, their outrage over the Jews.
00:42:21.360
By the way, we got those on X from Via Catch and Ali London.
00:42:25.740
But, you know, nothing says I'm really outraged at all the killing, like a little interpretive dance.
00:42:45.240
And it wouldn't be if the adults on campus had not abdicated their authority, this wouldn't be happening.
00:42:50.900
This all began in the 60s when you had the capitulation to the militants back then.
00:42:56.760
It continues in an academic intellectual sphere with adults who were supposed to be the scholars on campus saying,
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oh, we're not going to tell you what you need to learn before you graduate.
00:43:10.700
So adults are really leveling themselves, debasing themselves to the level of these ignoramus students.
00:43:23.400
They don't deserve to be having this privilege of being on a university campus.
00:43:27.880
In theory, there's no greater activity or profession, as far as I'm concerned, Megan,
00:43:35.340
than being in a university and being a curator of this great tradition.
00:43:39.100
These are the luckiest people on earth, these professors.
00:43:43.080
All we ask of them is to tell students, this is greatness.
00:43:49.920
And instead, the adults have engaged in their own little play acting of pretending that they too are fighting neoliberalism
00:43:59.380
and engaged in action, you know, ethnic studies.
00:44:09.200
But they too have completely swerved from what is their mission.
00:44:22.520
Because, you know, Scott Galloway, he's a professor.
00:44:28.160
And he was making good points about he's been on this show before as well, about how if you were to say one word about blacks or Hispanics in the way that they're speaking about Jews, you'd be off campus.
00:44:42.580
He was saying, you know, he would have been kicked out of.
00:44:44.340
I think it's NYU where he's a professor like that, right?
00:44:53.520
And then he went on to talk about what's happening with young people today.
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Probably as a university professor, he's exposed to a lot of them.
00:45:06.920
For the first time in our nation's history, a 30-year-old man or woman isn't doing as well as his or her parents were at 30.
00:45:16.600
People aged 30 to 34, 60 percent of them in 1990 had one child.
00:45:29.940
The pool of emotionally and economically viable men shrinks every day, which lessens household formation.
00:45:40.620
So it turns every cut, every movement into an opportunistic infection because, quite frankly, they are just pissed off.
00:45:48.720
They see wealth, exceptional wealth across my generation and people in certain industries.
00:45:57.220
And the incumbents create artificial scarcity on campus.
00:46:00.320
We take pride in rejecting 90 percent of our applicants.
00:46:03.000
So the incumbents who already have a degree, see their degree go up in value.
00:46:06.220
We get very concerned with housing and traffic once we own the housing.
00:46:09.860
Housing permits are sequestered from young people.
00:46:13.580
Housing prices have gone from $290 to $420 in the last four years.
00:46:17.280
So a young person, a house, stocks that I don't own skyrocket in value.
00:46:22.240
Let's have COVID relief and flush the markets and take assets way up because if a million people dying would be bad, it would be tragic if I got less wealthy.
00:46:36.820
And every issue they see, they look up, they get angry, and they see someone doing better than them.
00:46:41.200
And then every day it is speedballed in their face that they are failing, that they are not doing as well as everyone around them.
00:46:49.520
Our kids are more anxious and more depressed and more obese and more addicted.
00:46:53.360
And we have made a purposeful decision to let this happen by ensuring the people around this table stay wealthy at the cost of young people.
00:47:10.180
I don't believe they even know about housing costs.
00:47:13.340
You know, their problems are that they feel sorry for themselves.
00:47:18.980
I do not believe that if you are a hard worker, you stay away from drugs, you work hard, that you do not have a chance still in this world.
00:47:33.820
Because we're celebrating non-procreative sex all the time.
00:47:37.380
30 percent, you know, as we've heard on some high schools, identify as LGBTQ.
00:47:44.500
We are always celebrating non-procreative couplings and we have no respect for the traditional heterosexual family.
00:47:54.000
I think Galloway leaves out the ideology that is involved here, where we have an anti-male ideology.
00:48:02.760
Yes, there's fewer and fewer viable young men because we keep telling them that they are the source of all problems.
00:48:09.880
Good luck getting any kind of positive reinforcement if you're a young boy.
00:48:16.980
Every foundation, the federal government, every state government has you-go-girl programs up the gazoo.
00:48:34.860
I'm not going to feel sorry for young people today.
00:48:37.940
They are participants in their own marginalization by embracing this victim ideology.
00:48:46.160
And the problem is, is that we are turning against the fundamental bourgeois values of respect for authority, respect for the family, and understanding that males and females are different, that mothers and fathers are different.
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I got to take a quick pause because I got to get a break in here, but much more.
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Donald Trump, as you know, is on trial now in New York State Supreme.
00:50:21.200
He's facing charges in three other courtrooms as well.
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And the prosecutor, Alvin Bragg, in New York, had announced these charges a year ago.
00:50:31.600
And the only way he got to bring them was by saying,
00:50:34.620
trust me, it's not just this misdemeanor of falsifying business records,
00:50:39.760
because I realize the statute of limitations has expired on that.
00:50:42.840
He didn't say that, but that's a political reality, a legal reality for him.
00:50:45.660
But he resurrected that claim by saying, I can still bring this dead claim if it was done,
00:50:56.240
And then everybody looked at the indictment breathlessly and said,
00:51:00.300
And he actually looked in the caverns and said, I don't have to tell you.
00:51:04.600
So for a year, we've been speculating, what was it?
00:51:09.120
What is the other crime that he falsified the business records for?
00:51:12.020
And our best speculation has been that Bragg would argue Trump's situation with David Pecker
00:51:19.800
at the National Enquirer to bury bad stories about him and promote bad stories about his
00:51:26.440
adversaries and to buy the silence of certain women threatening to come forward with affair
00:51:32.340
allegations, that that somehow amounted to a campaign finance violation.
00:51:37.900
When he actually did the opening argument, not Bragg, but his deputy, this guy Colangelo,
00:51:44.780
It sounded all about this, quote, scheme where David Pecker of the National Enquirer and Trump
00:51:50.080
and Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, got together and decided to get the women to sign NDAs in
00:51:55.020
exchange for money because it would be bad for Trump's election if they didn't.
00:52:03.460
I'm not going to make you do legal analysis on this.
00:52:06.560
But we I mean, all the lawyers I know truly were looking at the opening like what?
00:52:17.540
How many steps do we have to go through to get there?
00:52:20.340
How on earth are they ever going to reduce a jury instruction to something digestible by
00:52:27.500
We're going to have to try to make sense of this and decide whether the prosecution has
00:52:34.740
Now, instead of sitting back and asking ourselves, maybe Alvin Bragg doesn't have it.
00:52:41.460
Maybe Alvin Bragg's Harvard law education didn't exactly do for him what we had hoped.
00:52:48.760
You've got the joy reads of the world who are having a very different reaction.
00:52:54.180
Looking at Alvin Bragg going after Trump with an incomprehensible legal theory.
00:52:59.760
Fannie Willis down in Atlanta, who we know is utterly confused by what she's doing.
00:53:06.240
She's probably too busy stupping the boyfriend on the side and then lying under oath about
00:53:13.440
And OK, and then we've got Letitia James in New York, the attorney general who's gone
00:53:17.560
after Trump and won some four hundred and fifty million dollars for a civil fraud that
00:53:24.640
Joy Reid is reveling in this, Heather, as follows.
00:53:28.960
For me, there is something wonderfully poetic about the fact that despite the fact that
00:53:35.640
even if convicted, he's not going to go to prison, the first person to actually criminally
00:53:41.400
prosecute Donald Trump is a black Harvard grad, the very kind of person that his former
00:53:48.100
staff, the people who worked for him, Stephen Miller, et cetera, want to never be at Harvard
00:53:57.160
And a black woman is doing that same exact thing in Georgia.
00:54:00.660
And a black woman forced you to pay one hundred and seventy five million dollar fine.
00:54:05.040
Donald Trump is being held to account by the very multicultural, multiracial democracy
00:54:13.340
And for me, there's something poetic and actually wonderful about that.
00:54:17.500
It says something good about our country that we're still capable of having that happen.
00:54:31.080
Something good about our country that we're now playing an absolute race war.
00:54:40.120
She's asking us to see everything through the lens of race that, you know, so I mean, it's
00:54:47.160
It's I'm sick of hearing conservatives kind of plaintively bleat.
00:54:51.400
Well, whatever happened to the content of your character, I thought we were supposed
00:54:59.680
We're I thought we're not supposed to see race.
00:55:02.180
But of course, the left says, if you don't see my race, you're not seeing me at the same
00:55:07.060
time that they deny that there's any biological reality to race.
00:55:12.080
There is a biological reality to race, and we are trying to to silence any kind of research
00:55:21.680
But in any case, Reid is basically telling us to see the race of people within the law
00:55:28.000
first and to expect a sort of race war coming out of the legal profession against a man.
00:55:36.800
This is an absolute violation, leaving aside even the race elements.
00:55:42.480
But she is is basically saying this is a vendetta against Donald Trump, against his policies.
00:55:49.440
I knew that we were in a bad situation, Megan, when it comes to the rule of law, but I didn't
00:55:56.380
But OK, so if if if if Joy Reid wants to play race card, let's let's look at what's going
00:56:03.380
on, Joe Biden, when he came into office in early 2021, his administration announced that
00:56:12.740
it would no longer be a be submitting the federal judicial nominees to the ABA for preclearance.
00:56:20.160
This is a tradition whereby presidents say to the American Bar Association, here's people
00:56:26.400
we're thinking about nominating to the federal courts.
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He said because the ABA doesn't support diversity.
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The ABA, let me give you a truth, little truth nugget here.
00:56:52.740
Biden was basically saying my judicial nominees are going to be so bad that they won't even get
00:56:58.260
22% of his judicial picks in the first 16 months of his administration were black females.
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This is a disaster, Megan, for the following reason.
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Black female lawyers make up about 2% of the lawyer population.
00:57:15.680
If you knew nothing more than that, and you're seeing about 22% of nominees and people being
00:57:21.980
put on the bench being black females, you know he is lowering standards.
00:57:27.400
If Joy Reid is making this about race, okay, let's talk about race.
00:57:30.820
When you look at the actual skills of black law students, they are at the bottom of the barrel.
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About two-thirds of black students are in the bottom half of their class.
00:57:47.860
You cannot have diversity and meritocracy on the bench at the same time.
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To the extent that you have opted for diversity on the bench, you are, by definition, going
00:57:59.480
to be lowering the standards of our jurisprudence, the standards of our lawyers, the standards
00:58:07.900
And you are seeing it, as you said with Megan, in the quality of the lawyering that we're
00:58:18.500
The rule of law depends on clearly articulated standards so that private parties can plan
00:58:29.140
Our constitutional jurisprudence matters for maintaining the fundamental principles of our
00:58:36.700
And if we're putting people into law school, onto law faculties, based not on their capacities
00:58:43.720
to do the law and to think about very, very complicated matters.
00:58:48.060
But based on their race, we are watering down our capacity to go forward.
00:58:56.000
And again, this is a subject that nice, well-meaning Americans do not want to talk about.
00:59:03.480
Far from being white supremacists, they are turning their eyes away from inner-city black pathologies.
00:59:10.260
But the reality is this, Megan, the skills gap between blacks on the one hand and whites
00:59:16.660
and Asians on the other is so high that you cannot have diversity and meritocracy at the
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Any institution like a university, a federal bar, a law firm that tells you they're opting
00:59:32.960
for diversity is telling you they have discarded meritocratic standards when it comes to hiring
00:59:41.500
I see your point entirely because a meritocracy will allow talented black people, brown people,
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Asians, whites, whatever, to rise to the top if they deserve it, if they have the education
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and the skills and the hard work ethic and so on.
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But a system based purely on diversity will not allow those who are most meritorious to rise
01:00:04.380
If it's purely on diversity, you're going to be judged by your body parts and your skin
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Three percent of black seniors are ready for a career in STEM.
01:00:22.700
And yet we have many more being pushed into these fields.
01:00:26.740
Sixty six percent of all black 12th graders do not possess even partial mastery of the most basic
01:00:32.520
12th grade math skills, such as being able to do arithmetic or reading a graph.
01:00:38.800
Sixty six percent of black 12th graders cannot do that even partially.
01:00:44.660
And yet you have our standard now of saying if we don't have 13 percent oncologists in the most
01:00:51.180
advanced cancer research labs, it's because of discrimination against qualified black cancer researchers.
01:01:02.160
The skills gap, 50 percent of black 12th graders do not possess even partial mastery of 12th grade
01:01:11.240
Again, if you are expecting 13 percent black representation in meritocratic, demanding cognitive
01:01:19.600
skills, demanding occupations, you are not going to get that without lowering standards.
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And and so, again, if we're going to go around saying that any racial disparity is the product of racism,
01:01:44.600
I just read today that a Pennsylvania convenience store chain is being sued for racial discrimination
01:01:52.860
because it uses background checks to screen for employees.
01:01:58.760
Blacks commit crime at so much higher rates that they get knocked out by criminal background checks.
01:02:09.920
In the post-George Floyd crime wave that we're still living through, black juveniles are shot at 100 times the rate of white juveniles.
01:02:28.760
They're being shot by other blacks at 100 times the rate of white juvenile shootings.
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And that's the reality that the left does not want you to see.
01:02:43.480
Never, never placed on a BLM sign or in the George Floyd riots.
01:02:49.400
But we are hearing more and more on the left this touting of record low crime rate, record low crime rate.
01:02:56.060
Of course, this is to help Joe Biden get elected.
01:02:58.900
But they're citing there is someone who does this analysis named Jeff Asher.
01:03:04.180
He wrote a December 2023 article on it for his newsletter talking about this 50-year decline in the crime rate.
01:03:12.900
And we heard a bunch of folks over on MSNBC touting this.
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I'll give you just an example to set it up for the audience.
01:03:32.780
Last year, the murder rates are the soppish decrease in history.
01:03:37.060
Violent crime fell to one of its lowest levels in more than 50 years.
01:03:40.960
On Earth 1, the FBI reports that violent crime in America is at a 50-year low.
01:03:52.860
Because I know it's one of those things to me where it's like, don't believe your lion eyes with all the crime in front of you and in your local paper and happening to your neighbor.
01:03:59.840
Believe this analysis from this guy, Jeff Asher, repeated by MSNBC, printed in The Atlantic as America's peace wave and so on.
01:04:14.180
Even Asher admitted in the study that they're all quoting that crime is still way up over 2019.
01:04:21.320
The post-George Floyd crime epidemic, the anarchy that has broken out ever since we celebrated rioters, ever since we celebrated looting, ever since we celebrated shooting at police officers, destroying police precincts, courthouses.
01:04:53.460
Carjackings in 2023 are still up 93% compared to post-pre-George Floyd race riots of 2019.
01:05:13.440
And if you go back further to when the real glorification of, frankly, black crime began in 2014 with the whole Michael Brown hands up, don't shoot narrative that was completely false,
01:05:30.160
but that was amplified by the mainstream media and CNN and MSNBC, homicides are up 40% in 2022 compared to 2014.
01:05:40.480
The reality today remains anarchy unlike we've ever seen the types of lootings, the shameless strolls through supermarkets and convenience stores and jewelry stores with people without any fear of punishment, just dumping goods into their, into their knapsacks.
01:06:07.860
The basic obligation of government is to protect property.
01:06:13.720
The expectation of small business owners, it is not doing that.
01:06:17.800
This is a crime wave that is completely voluntary.
01:06:21.360
It is a creation of bad political government choices that are based on the same issue that if criminal law enforcement has a disparate impact on black criminals, it must be racist law enforcement.
01:06:34.840
And so we have decided, or the elites have decided, we are not going to enforce the law because we would rather put up with more black crime and more black victimization than put more black criminals in jail.
01:06:54.040
There was a Washington Post reporter that was bitching about, oh, a moral panic over shoplifting and mass theft in crime, in property.
01:07:09.960
If government cannot protect law-abiding citizens and their expectations of safety and the safety of their property, that is a failed government that has lost its legitimacy.
01:07:22.780
The problem is widespread, and the news media is complicit, as you know.
01:07:31.980
There are a couple of examples of this that I'd like to get to, but before I do, I just want to mention, on the Daily Mail just this morning, Walmart removes self-checkouts and swaps back to traditional lanes, but it's not because they care about customer service.
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It's happening in Missouri and Ohio because people are stealing.
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They can't be trusted to go through the self-checkout, and as you know, everything, everything is under lock and key now.
01:07:56.540
You know, it used to be the stuff that people could use, like Sudafed, to make drugs, and now everything.
01:08:02.040
Call attendant, call attendant, call attendant.
01:08:03.700
It's just such a hassle to go, which is, of course, why none of us want to go to these stores anymore.
01:08:07.420
We just want to use Amazon, funding the lifestyle of Jeff Bezos and his weird wife.
01:08:14.400
This morning in Los Angeles, there was a stabbing.
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So it happened, sorry, Monday morning, 5 a.m., but the videotape has just made the news.
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67-year-old woman fatally stabbed Myrna Souza Arauz, stabbed in the throat.
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She was stabbed as she was exiting the train onto the platform area.
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The police reported out a description of the male.
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He's since been arrested, and this is how they reported it.
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The ambulance was called, and the woman was treated by paramedics, but no word on the extent of her injuries or her condition right now.
01:08:58.000
As for the suspect, police say it was a man carrying two bags.
01:09:01.340
We don't have any other description at this point.
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So this woman did later die, and it later came out.
01:09:08.520
They found the assailant, and it was a black man.
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They strongly believe that he may have victimized other people, and they urged anyone who believed they were targeted by him to come forward.
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Police now say he has a troubling, violent criminal history, including previous assaults.
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He did four years in prison on an assault with a deadly weapon and an enhancement for inflicting great bodily injury.
01:09:31.180
He served about half the sentence before he was released in 2022.
01:09:33.540
So they won't say, in trying to track down the man while he was still at large, the color of his skin.
01:09:41.680
And of course, they would never have withheld that if it had been a white man.
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I mean, we have just decided we're going to cancel ourselves.
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You cannot go around coddling criminals on some phony theory of racial justice.
01:10:03.940
If you don't put away black criminals, it's going to be primarily disproportionately blacks who are victimized,
01:10:12.280
dozens of blacks who are shot every day fatally by other blacks.
01:10:18.780
That's more than all white and Hispanic homicide victims combined, even though blacks are only 13 percent of the population.
01:10:25.580
So if your only concern is black lives, you should be wanting to lock people away.
01:10:30.480
But let's also not pretend that there is not huge interracial crime issues that goes in the exact opposite
01:10:43.300
If you look at all non-lethal interracial violence between blacks and whites and whites and blacks,
01:10:48.600
and I say non-lethal because this is based on self-reporting.
01:10:54.800
But the National Crime Victimization Survey shows us that blacks commit about 87 percent of all interracial violence
01:11:03.980
between blacks and whites and whites and blacks, a black person is 33 times more likely to commit a stabbing,
01:11:12.200
a drive-by shooting, a rape, a robbery against a white than vice versa.
01:11:17.380
The narrative is the exact opposite, and it's true for cops as well, Megan.
01:11:22.220
We're all supposed to believe that blacks are at huge risk from police officers.
01:11:30.740
In 2021, a police officer was 400 times more likely to be killed by a black person than an unarmed black
01:11:39.660
was likely to be fatally shot by a police officer.
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So if the libertarians among us, if the cop haters among us like Radley Balco go around saying how safe it is
01:11:51.180
to be a police officer, notwithstanding the spate of fatal shootings of police officers during car stops,
01:11:57.460
not just in New York, but last week in Memphis, Tennessee, that it's so great to be a police officer,
01:12:03.980
well, it's 400 times safer to be a black person vis-a-vis the cops as it is to be a cop vis-a-vis a black person.
01:12:13.600
So everything the public thinks it knows about race, crime, and policing from the mainstream media is wrong,
01:12:25.980
Police are the solution to black lives being lost.
01:12:30.760
They are not the source of black lives being lost.
01:12:33.840
If you care about blacks, you should want to have strong law enforcement.
01:12:38.660
And we should, from now on, the rule should be, Megan, this is not normal what we're living through.
01:12:44.120
This is a self-created, chosen life that we're inflicting on ourselves.
01:12:54.500
I have been to the south side of Chicago, and it's sad.
01:13:01.140
I've met with the moms whose half their sons are in prison.
01:13:09.580
These moms live in fear when their kids go outside, that they're going to get shot, that
01:13:13.420
they're going to get pulled into gang violence.
01:13:16.360
Of course, they're for this sort of restorative justice where we're less harsh in the penalties
01:13:24.800
And they've been totally abandoned by the system.
01:13:35.860
They stifled it all just this month, just as my daughter celebrated her 13th birthday,
01:13:43.560
an eight-year-old girl and seven others, the girl was killed.
01:13:48.540
Seven others were wounded, including a one-year-old boy and a seven-year-old boy, each shot multiple
01:14:00.780
Of course, the CNN article about it goes on to blame guns.
01:14:06.620
Firearms are the number one killer of children and teens in America.
01:14:18.860
By the way, for all those people on MSNBC singing about the lovely crime-free America
01:14:24.320
we now live in, in 2024, homicides of children.
01:14:30.600
This year, just as of April 23rd, it's already at 14.
01:14:48.320
So we've forgotten about this group of Americans who are suffering because we won't get honest
01:14:56.420
And at the same time, Chicagoans are protesting the death of Dexter Reed, this guy who pulled
01:15:01.920
out his gun when pulled over by cops, shot at them first.
01:15:05.400
And then they unleashed 96 rounds against him, demanding that the cops be fired and prosecuted.
01:15:11.500
There was a big protest about it just the other day at the Chicago Police Board meeting, saying
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the problem in his death was the, quote, pretextual traffic stop and not anything other than that.
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They're not protesting about what's happening with these kids and the dead eight-year-old
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Well, I'm so sick of Black Lives Matter activists and their ilk.
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They don't deserve a single moment of any of our time.
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I will believe that they believe the Black Lives Matter activists when I see a single
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protest about these Black children that are gunned down.
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It's based on hatred of white people that we're supposed to pretend that whites are the
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problem in these Black communities or the police are the problem in these Black communities.
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No, the fathers who are absent are the problem in these Black communities.
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The lack of parenting, of decent parenting, is the problem of these Black communities.
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These are kids that have been not—they don't have socialization.
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If they feel dissed, they pull out a gun and they randomly shoot across city sidewalks and
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Again, let's remember, we're supposed to believe we're a white supremacist society.
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We don't even want to talk about Black crime anymore because it makes white people feel
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Yes, you feel offensive or somehow—I don't know.
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You're not generalizing, of course, about all Black people at all, but we need to get
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honest about what the actual crime rate is, where it's coming from, and why before we'll
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And to your point, one other thing, the national homicide rate in 2022 was 40% higher
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And whenever we see one of these things, Michael Brown, Freddie Gray, George Floyd, the media
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They create a firestorm around race and Blacks and whites and cops.
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And every time, what happens is more Black people die.
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The next thing you know, an eight-year-old girl is dead.
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A one-year-old and seven-year-old boy are shot in the head.
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It's just, how many times do we have to go through this cycle, right?
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And still, that same community is pointing to a totally justified police-involved shooting
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that was only unleashed once they were shot upon.
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You know, it was the West Side and the South Side that got in to the mayoralty in Chicago,
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a guy who was on record as a sort of a defund the police type.
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And he goes around saying these are crimes of people that have children that have been
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Let's get this one off the table as well, Megan.
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These are crimes of people who feel that they are justified in taking other people's
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The smartphone, social media is the police's biggest friend because all these kids have
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smartphones and they throw their gang signs on the phones.
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Any child who has a smartphone is not deprived.
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And, you know, we're also supposed to believe from the left, oh, this is all because of
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The only place where crime went up in the world, violent crime rose during the COVID pandemic
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And that's because we stopped enforcing the law.
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It was because it was after George Floyd when crime went up.
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And it is not the fault of somehow poverty or deprivation.
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They have not been taught to defer gratification, to control their impulses.
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And, of course, we are not speaking about all blacks.
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I've made a career out of going into community inner city meetings with the police and giving
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voice to these good law abiding black people, elderly residents who are terrified to go into
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the street or terrified to go into their building lobby because it's been colonized by youth who
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They beg the police, arrest the dealers, keep them off the streets, arrest the truant school
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Why don't you arrest them for loitering any longer?
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No, the people who care are like white conservatives.
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When the white conservative media stops caring about black lives, then they're really screwed.
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But as long as the Democrats are in power, they're going to continue to be screwed because
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nobody wants to look at the pathologies head on and least of all the Democrats.
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Yeah, you're not going to hear any of those stats from Rachel Maddow or Morning Joe.
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We'll end it on a happy note on a piece of good news.
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Kevin Dalton is law and order returning to Los Angeles.
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There was an immediate and overwhelming police response.
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The nonviolent criminal goes to jail on one hundred thousand dollar bail.
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Mayor Karen Bass, a person who she was home when it happened.
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Heather, Karen Bass, who introduced the George Floyd policing bill in Congress, banned chokeholds,
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banned no knock warrants at the federal level, eliminated qualified immunity for law enforcement
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and that established a national police misconduct registry once police held accountable.
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She got air support sent to her house and the guys in jail for that one.
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Regular Los Angeles, different story, black or white.
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This woman, it's police for me, but not for the I'll give you the last word, my friend.
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I mean, you know, we've heard the expression conservatives are liberals who've been mugged by reality.
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I doubt whether Bass is going to turn into a conservative, but people got to vote.
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They got to vote out George Gascon, the left wing prosecutor in L.A.
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We still have, believe it or not, we do have the power of the ballot.
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They have lost all sense of what a government exists to do, which is to protect the law abiding,
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not to protect the dysfunctional, not to protect the antisocial.
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It is time to get back to a respect for people who play by the rules.
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Those are the people who deserve the support of government, not those who want to tear everything down.
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We've got to take our system back, Megan, and we still have the power to do it as long as people show up and vote.
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Thank you for making time for us when you have all this beauty and wonder around you.