The Megyn Kelly Show - Tucker Accuses CIA of Spying on Him, Megyn Responds to Mark Levin, & Oscars Lowlights and Highlights ｜ Ep. 1273

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00:02:17.720 There's been some incredible developments since we last said goodbye on Friday. President Trump saying

00:02:23.960 Iran has essentially been defeated, but he's not ready to negotiate a deal to end the war yet

00:02:29.800 because the terms aren't good enough. No explanation on exactly what those terms would be

00:02:35.520 or whether the Iranians have weighed in on them at all. And the situation in the Strait of Hormuz

00:02:42.200 is not good, not at all. The bombs in Iran keep falling from both sides, Iran and Israel. The U.S.

00:02:50.100 attacked Iran's Karg Island on Friday. 90% of Iran's oil moves through the facilities there.

00:02:57.560 President Trump claiming to have, quote, obliterated the military targets on the island.

00:03:01.760 But writing on True Social, quote, for reasons of decency, I have chosen not to wipe out the oil 0.95

00:03:06.640 infrastructure on the island. Iran has said all along that would be a red line that could not be

00:03:14.240 undone. They continue fighting back. Both the U.S. Embassy in Iraq and the Baghdad International Airport

00:03:21.300 hit with missiles over the weekend, believed to be from Iran and its proxies. That's how it's 1.00

00:03:27.620 fighting this war, through its missiles and its drones. And international gas and oil prices continue

00:03:33.980 to be a major concern. Iran says the Strait of Hormuz, where about 20% of the world's oil supply

00:03:39.720 passes, is, quote, closed to our enemies. Now, Trump is currently trying to recruit countries to

00:03:46.160 help protect shipping in the Strait, saying it's really not our problem. Like, we didn't create

00:03:52.560 this problem. It's somebody else's problem because we don't really use the oil that passes through

00:03:56.580 there. Well, I mean, we did create the problem. It's true we don't really use the Strait for a bunch

00:04:02.500 of our oil, but we did create the problem. And I think many of these other countries, based on

00:04:07.560 their response we're getting so far, don't understand why we're not doing the Pottery Barn

00:04:12.660 rule here of, we broke it, we bought it. Why is it now China's problem when they have nothing to do 0.98

00:04:19.400 with this war, at least as of now? The price of oil trading around $100 a barrel over concerns about

00:04:26.380 this conflict. And the most stunning thing that happened over the weekend was our friend Tucker

00:04:33.980 Carlson came out and said he's being threatened with a criminal prosecution over his opposition

00:04:43.820 to the US's military operation in Iran. It's incredible. Okay, all that, plus the whole world

00:04:51.420 has not stopped just because of the Iran conflict last night. The Oscars took place in Hollyweird,

00:04:57.020 and it is indeed just as weird and woke as ever. I mean, they never disappoint, right? We'll get into

00:05:06.340 the highs and lows of the event in just a bit. But let's just start with, I'm going to start with

00:05:11.900 what's happening with Tucker. This is absolutely bizarre. I mean, you probably know by this point,

00:05:17.620 two plus weeks into this war, that it has divided the country. Yes, very much so. The vast majority 0.51

00:05:24.120 of the American public is against the war. The vast majority of Republicans are supporting the

00:05:29.060 president in the war. Their support for the actual war itself depends on how you phrase the question.

00:05:35.900 If you say it's about getting rid of Iran's nukes, Republican support goes way up. If you talk about

00:05:41.120 regime change, it goes down. And Trump's got maybe 82% of the party that's backing him in this war,

00:05:50.120 which is not great. I mean, you have almost 20% of Republicans saying that they're against him.

00:05:55.900 That's not great in an election year. You would expect most Republicans to back the president,

00:06:01.120 and no Republican likes Iran. I mean, like literally nobody, not the people of Iran. They're 1.00

00:06:06.620 not the problem. It's the regime. But he does not have overwhelming support in the way that

00:06:13.000 all the other wars we've been involved with did, including the Iraq war, had way more support than

00:06:17.280 this, in part because it was debated and it was discussed at length before we actually launched

00:06:22.120 it, unlike this war. Well, one of the war's main critics and the person who probably stopped

00:06:27.580 harder, tried harder than anyone to stop it was Tucker. He went to see the president. He loves the

00:06:33.240 president. He's a supporter of the president. He endorsed the president. He campaigned for the

00:06:36.900 president. As you know, so did yours truly. And I also am not a supporter of this war.

00:06:43.240 And now it appears because he's been vocal about opposing it, he may find himself on the wrong end

00:06:52.060 of a criminal prosecution, or at least the threat thereof. He took to his own mic over the weekend

00:07:00.460 and posted the following. Look here in Sat. One. So the other day I found out that the CIA is

00:07:06.840 preparing some kind of criminal referral against me, a crime report to the Department of Justice

00:07:12.560 on the basis of a supposed crime I committed. What's that crime? Well, talking to people in Iran 1.00

00:07:19.400 before the war. They read my texts. So the crime under consideration apparently would be the

00:07:26.540 foreign agent act or something like that. Acting as an agent of a foreign power.

00:07:32.200 And I don't expect this to go anywhere. It's one. I'm not an agent of a foreign power.

00:07:37.040 Unlike a lot of people commenting on US politics and global affairs, I have only one loyalty and

00:07:42.240 that's the United States and have never acted against it. I've also never taken money from

00:07:47.040 anybody. Don't need it. Don't want it. And that's provable. And moreover, it's my job to talk to

00:07:52.840 everybody all the time and try and figure out what's happening around the world. That's literally

00:07:56.860 what I do for a living. And I'm not going to stop doing that, nor should I. I have no secrets to

00:08:02.480 divulge. So legally, I think the case is ludicrous and I doubt it will even become a case. I'm bringing

00:08:08.940 this up for a couple of reasons, though. One is that countries tend to become more authoritarian

00:08:15.280 in wartime. It's just the nature of war. Another point to make that is worth knowing is that the USIC,

00:08:22.220 the intelligence agencies, spy on Americans. There's no justification for your government,

00:08:28.160 which you own, you're a shareholder in it, you pay for it, to be violating your privacy

00:08:32.820 like this. But it happens all the time. But the main reason they do it is to leak the existence of

00:08:40.980 the investigation, such as it is, to the media and then humiliate and terrify the subjects of this

00:08:49.540 off. So I'm not making this video to complain about it or whine or ask you to send me money

00:08:54.800 because I'm under attack. I'm saying it because it's true. And you should know what your own

00:09:01.340 government is doing. And you should know what the stakes are. And you should know that a lot of what

00:09:06.920 happens in this country that affects outcomes happens behind the scenes. And it's likely that

00:09:12.460 things like that will begin to happen at greater scale now. So you should just know that going

00:09:18.000 forward. This is stunning and deeply wrong. And I believe Tucker. Some don't. I do. I believe him

00:09:28.040 completely because he wouldn't have zero interest in running out, making himself the center of any

00:09:32.060 story which he doesn't like to do ever, even when he often is. And knowing him, I detected real concern

00:09:40.420 in his voice there because he's worried about what's happening to our government. Like, why are we

00:09:44.720 behaving like this? Why would we be going after private citizens, a journalist in Tucker's case,

00:09:51.800 for investigating the war? I mean, if Tucker, he says he spoke with sources in Iran prior to the

00:09:59.700 conflict getting launched, that's something you would do if you had sources in Iran and you wanted

00:10:04.460 to find out what was happening on the ground there. I mean, Yashar Ali, who's a great journalist

00:10:08.740 online, is constantly updating us on what the reaction is inside Iran, what people are saying.

00:10:15.300 Saurabh Amari, who we've had on the program recently, has connections there. Tucker apparently

00:10:20.240 does too. Why, as a journalist, would you not call your sources to say, what are you guys hearing?

00:10:26.380 What's the reaction? What do the people want? How do you think we're seeing all these opinion pieces

00:10:31.020 and news updates in the New York Times and the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal?

00:10:35.500 They call sources in Iran, in Israel, in Lebanon, in all these places, and then they report on what

00:10:41.000 they're saying. So I'm like, in order to violate the Foreign Agent Registration Act, you have to be

00:10:49.020 acting on behalf of a foreign principal. You have to have, you have to actually be like doing their

00:10:57.040 bidding in an actual relationship, not just like, you know, the way, whatever, I don't know, the way

00:11:05.880 somebody over here, a pundit who's super pro-Israel, would just be out there saying, I love Israel and

00:11:10.840 I'm in favor of this war. That's fine. You're allowed to do that. Same way people can say, I can't stand 0.77

00:11:17.060 what Israel's doing and I'm against this war. You have to prove that Tucker, on behalf of a foreign 0.99

00:11:26.000 government, on behalf of Iran, like went in and met with President Trump without telling him.

00:11:32.000 And there are other elements beyond that, which they're not going to, and by the way, and the

00:11:36.740 notion that he was paid for this too is so absurd. People completely underestimate Tucker Carlson's

00:11:43.640 wealth. I'm not going to get into it more than that, but let me just suffice it to say that he comes

00:11:48.320 from many generations of very successful people. That's fine. That's good for Tucker. I mean, most of us

00:11:54.360 would have loved to have been born into that kind of a situation. And then on top of it, he's made

00:11:59.400 his own fortune. He does not need money from Iran to betray his country. The reason he is talking

00:12:10.180 about this war so much is because he loves his country and he doesn't favor war and he never has.

00:12:16.380 I mean, he's, if you watched him when he was in prime time at Fox News, all he ever did was talk

00:12:19.740 about how he didn't, he didn't want war. He was against armed conflict pretty much of any kind.

00:12:25.860 And honestly, that, that's been his beef with Israel for quite some time now. His critics try to turn

00:12:30.720 it into Tucker hates Jews. And it's just not true. And I, can I just say like for the record, as you

00:12:37.800 know, I have been extremely, extremely supportive of American Jewish people, especially over the past

00:12:44.240 couple of years since 10-7 and will continue to be. I love them. And I have many, many dear friends who

00:12:50.820 are American Jews who are going through a lot right now with these retaliatory terror attacks that we're

00:12:57.260 dealing with. And I have nothing but empathy for them. But all along, we've been told it's okay to

00:13:03.060 criticize Israel. You know, like, let's not conflate that with anti-Semitism. And I thought that was a

00:13:09.720 very fair point. I wasn't critical of Israel at all. I don't think I said anything critical about

00:13:14.380 Israel for two years past 10-7, gave them a very, very wide berth because they'd been so brutally 0.95

00:13:20.820 attacked on 10-7. And, you know, I kept asking myself what would the United States be doing if

00:13:25.660 this happened to us, which it kind of did. But now that even I've started speaking out a bit more on

00:13:33.460 Israel, I certainly, I called for them to stop on the bombing campaign of Palestine because, 0.83

00:13:41.000 as I said, time's up. Like, we've had enough. Time to wrap it up. It started there. Like,

00:13:48.320 suddenly I'm an anti-Semite. Like, no one can name anything anti-Semitic I've said. I attributed us 1.00

00:13:54.140 getting into this war to people like Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro, Miriam Maddelson, who definitely paid

00:14:00.780 Trump hundreds of millions of dollars. And this is her number one thing. But it's also, and I

00:14:06.780 reported this to you last weekend, my old pal Mark Thiessen of Fox News and General Jack Keene of Fox

00:14:13.480 News and Lindsey Graham, I think all three of those are not Jewish people, pushed hard for us to get 0.96

00:14:19.620 into this war. Been very critical of Lindsey Graham, who's like frothing at the mouth for more death. 0.66

00:14:25.520 But Mark and General Keene, I respect and like them both. I disagree with them and they disagree

00:14:32.080 with me, but that's fine. We can still have disagreements without demonizing the other

00:14:37.020 people. At least I think we can. I can. I think I have a lifetime of proving I can. I think the

00:14:41.920 listeners to the show know I can and I do often. And I'm quick to forgive and small slights and move

00:14:47.640 on. And this is going to dredge up a lot of disagreement. It's war. We're losing American

00:14:56.140 service personnel. We have 13 dead service personnel now as a result of this war, which I definitely 0.93

00:15:02.080 believe we got into because of Israel. I mean, obviously, and Trump, of course. You know, Ben Shapiro

00:15:08.620 was out there saying I'm a coward because I won't call out Trump on this. I've been calling out Trump.

00:15:12.800 That's why Trump attacked me and Tucker just as soon as I said I was against the war. I don't know

00:15:18.960 if you saw. I don't bring my personal drama onto the show that often, but he came out and said,

00:15:23.040 I'm not MAGA and that Tucker's not MAGA. And he's right. I'm not MAGA. I've never been MAGA. As you

00:15:27.860 know, I've described myself as MAGA adjacent, that I speak fluent MAGA. I understand what's important

00:15:33.620 to MAGA, but I'm an independent and I'm a journalist first. And I don't really get sucked into partisan

00:15:39.460 labels. I don't want anyone's jersey on my front. I really don't. So whatever. By Trump's standards,

00:15:45.960 it was kind of a mild pushback. He's basically saying, I don't appreciate that you're not

00:15:49.980 supporting me in this, but I'm not going to come for you personally. Okay. That's, it's fine.

00:15:56.660 So in any event, but it is obviously Trump's call ultimately. That doesn't mean Israel didn't spend

00:16:01.520 the past year trying to goad him into it successfully. Netanyahu at the White House seven times and so on.

00:16:06.760 And you heard what Marco Rubio said is the reason we did it now. It was because of Israel.

00:16:12.140 Okay. So back to Tucker. He's, you know, you can take my own opposition to this war and times it by

00:16:18.040 a hundred. And that's where Tucker is because he's just devoted his life to fighting exactly this kind

00:16:23.680 of thing. And he's very, very foreign policy focused. The show does it. It's kind of, I would

00:16:29.440 treat it like sports. If it crosses over into mainstream news, we cover foreign policy, but it's not

00:16:34.280 like a favorite of the show. As you of all people know, the people who listen to the show.

00:16:41.460 So, but Tucker has been really out there at the pointy end of the spear and I've listened to his

00:16:45.900 shows and he's, he's not afraid to say, you know, it's Trump's decision. He's not trying to run cover

00:16:50.180 for Trump, but he's also not talking about Trump the way Trump's main critics on the left who hate

00:16:54.880 this war are. And I believe him that it's because he says he loves the president and, you know,

00:17:00.560 he's disappointed in him. He feels betrayed. He said the other day, and that's just honest,

00:17:07.180 but he, I think he's totally still rooting for the president to ideally end this thing and get

00:17:13.960 back on track with all the agenda items that made us all run out there and campaign for him. And this

00:17:18.800 was not one of them. Let's all be really honest about that. No one thought Trump was promising a

00:17:24.240 war in the middle East. He said exactly the opposite. So now Tucker comes out and says, and

00:17:30.900 trust me when I tell you, he's got very good sources inside the government that he's been told

00:17:36.580 the CIA has referred a criminal investigation to the DOJ about him, about allegedly Tucker speaking to

00:17:45.020 people inside of Iran in the days prior to Trump launching the attack, which led the left to go into

00:17:51.300 some bizarre tizzy of a frenzy meltdown over the weekend saying, oh, Trump, when he had Tucker to

00:17:58.920 the White House, was working an op. He knew Tucker was a double agent and he was giving him false

00:18:06.640 information so that Tucker would go back to his, I guess, Iranian handlers, give them bad info about

00:18:13.240 us not getting ready to attack them so that they put their guard down and Trump could drop the bombs,

00:18:19.720 like Trump could send in the military. This is so crazy. Now Axios comes out, Mark Caputo, and says,

00:18:26.220 okay, none of that is true. And he also says it's not true that the CIA is investigating

00:18:31.000 Tucker or has referred Tucker for criminal investigation at the DOJ. Mark Caputo making

00:18:38.360 clear there was no op. It was a friendly meeting between Trump and Tucker. They disagreed. Trump heard

00:18:44.180 him out, parted friends. And by the way, as you know, he had Tucker back to the White House a couple more

00:18:49.060 times where they talked about it at length and more. The same as Charlie tried to talk Trump out

00:18:54.660 of bombing Iran back in June. You know, I mean, like the president will listen to his critics and

00:18:59.880 then he'll make his decision and then the critics will say what they're going to say. Like me, like

00:19:03.960 Tucker, like Charlie did, we're not president. He's got the big job. He'll make the calls that matter.

00:19:10.740 And then, you know, the chattering class of which I am a part are entitled to our opinions and feelings

00:19:16.940 on it. We speak for millions of people who have these same feelings. And many people who disagree

00:19:22.860 with us enjoy being subjected to a differing POV. So that's all landing as it should. But threatening a

00:19:33.400 journalist like Tucker with prosecution under the Foreign Agent Registration Act because he apparently

00:19:41.900 called sources inside of Iran prior to the war starting, that's outrageous. That's going to be

00:19:50.120 a very, very long shot. And I just, I have a really difficult time believing that Pam Bondi will do such

00:19:57.080 a thing. Whether it's been, I believe CIA referred him. I actually do. And I believe they investigated him.

00:20:02.380 And the intel community, you would, I mean, going back to when Roger Ailes was running Fox and I

00:20:07.240 spent a lot of time in his office, as you know, from movies and books, but the vast majority of it

00:20:13.300 was spent talking politics and news. There were a couple of times where he chased me around the desk.

00:20:17.800 Okay. Day in the life at Fox News. Anyway, he, he told me stories about the CIA that would make your

00:20:24.740 eyes roll back into your head. I mean, it horrifying, um, about, you know, executions and nonstop harassment,

00:20:33.980 spying and investigating of American citizens. And Tucker was making the same allegation this weekend.

00:20:40.760 Look, I don't, I don't have these same sources. I don't know any of this stuff firsthand, but you asked me,

00:20:45.240 is it difficult for me to believe that the CIA actually is investigating Tucker and trying to

00:20:49.500 make life difficult for him? I say, I have every reason to believe that, but I don't believe Pam

00:20:54.880 Bondi would charge Tucker. I just don't, I don't believe that. No. And I don't think Trump would

00:20:58.320 charge Tucker. I think Trump is mad at any of us who don't support anything he does. That's how he's

00:21:04.220 built. We all know that. Um, that doesn't mean he would have Tucker Carlson charged. That's ridiculous.

00:21:10.620 That just can't, it's not going to happen. That's my view. If it does happen, it's going to be an 0.97

00:21:15.660 earth shattering moment and it's going to be a fundamental dividing line that will change this

00:21:19.840 country forever. It'll, it'll change this country forever. Um, many of us will rise up extremely loudly

00:21:29.460 and unmercifully if that happens, like because of one's opposition to war, you get thrown in jail.

00:21:39.000 That's just not going to happen here. All right. And don't tell me this is like Don LeMond because

00:21:44.140 it's not Tucker did not join a mob harassing churchgoers, which violates the explicit letter

00:21:50.840 of the law. And it violates the constitution. Um, that that's, this is not that this is according

00:21:57.520 to Tucker. Anyway, he made a couple of phone calls to Iran in advance of the war to figure out what was

00:22:03.500 happening as a journalist, as, as countless journalists have. And what's really galling

00:22:10.180 is to see the same crowd that's frothing at the mouth to see Tucker behind bars is the same crowd

00:22:15.420 that's cheering on Lindsey Graham in his admission that he continuously traveled over to Israel and met

00:22:23.040 with Bibi Netanyahu, received foreign intelligence from Bibi that he used on Trump. He, Lindsey,

00:22:29.700 also gave Netanyahu information on how to manipulate the U S president, but is he going to get charged

00:22:38.680 under Farah? Is that okay? Like, I mean, he actually was working with a foreign government

00:22:45.520 on how to manipulate the sitting U S president. Okay. Who, who is he doing that on behalf of Israel?

00:22:53.920 Israel. He was doing that on behalf of Israel. He was talking with the prime minister of Israel,

00:22:58.300 giving him information about our president in order to use against the president in order to

00:23:05.380 manipulate the president into what Israel and Lindsey Graham thought was the proper outcome.

00:23:10.080 So these same folks who are outraged that Tucker might've called a source or two in Iran,

00:23:15.440 by the way, we don't know what the source was. We don't know what was said,

00:23:18.280 but Tucker's suggesting and saying explicitly that it was as part of his reporting duties to figure

00:23:24.220 out what was happening there in a country we were about to go to war with. They, they,

00:23:28.580 they have nothing to say about the Lindsey Graham's of the world, et cetera. And the nerve we've got now,

00:23:33.500 uh, the former deputy mayor of Jerusalem, Flor Hassan Nahum tweeting out Tucker Carlson should be

00:23:39.880 arrested and tried for treason. You know what the penalty is for treason? It's death. This is crazy.

00:23:46.980 So this woman thinks that he should be arrested and tried for treason. That's what she wants to see

00:23:53.200 happen. Um, now here's this Republican from Ohio named Max Miller who called for Tucker to be

00:24:02.740 prosecuted. Everyone has always known Tucker's in love with himself and happy to sell falsehoods for

00:24:07.920 attention. Tucker's actually one of the most self-deprecating hard on himself people. I know

00:24:13.580 the left excels at this when Tucker fully joined them. It was just sad. Now treason again, using

00:24:20.960 the word treason. If Tucker really worked with Iran against America's interests, he's a traitor and

00:24:26.100 should be prosecuted. This is like getting scary. And then there is the vile Laura Loomer who posts on 1.00

00:24:33.840 X. I've created a list of conservative influencers who I believe are taking money from Iran, Russia,

00:24:39.700 and Qatar. As I told the DOJ. So this is her saying she's contacted the DOJ. Tucker Carlson isn't the

00:24:46.900 only person who is likely violating Farah, the foreign agent registration act. All these traitors

00:24:51.900 deserve jail time. Traitor again. Okay. They can't silence us all. Like this is so absurd. I can guarantee 0.99

00:25:02.340 you. I've certainly never taken a single dime for many of these folks. In fact, there was a pro-Israeli

00:25:07.780 group that wanted to sponsor my tour. And they're fine. There's nothing wrong with that. There's

00:25:13.860 nothing wrong with them. I appreciated the interest. But what they wanted in exchange was for me to put

00:25:18.400 one of their top representatives on stage and to sort of give her the floor and let her do her 1.00

00:25:23.900 pitches for whatever it was that was pro-Israeli. And I said, I'm not doing that. I'm not selling my

00:25:28.980 stage for an agenda. It's one thing that, you know, why refi? They were great. They can pitch you on

00:25:34.820 refinancing with them and you can decide to or not. But this is an entirely different thing.

00:25:40.120 I don't take a dime from anybody for it. So good luck with that, Laura. Good luck. You know,

00:25:45.440 we're not all foreign agents. Some of us just have legitimate disagreements with policy. So this is

00:25:52.820 just the campaign of intimidation is outrageous. It's really outrageous.

00:25:59.440 Dave Smith, who's been very critical of Trump and of this war, he posted the following on X.

00:26:08.360 Obviously, this administration has already destroyed the coalition that won Trump the popular vote

00:26:12.400 in every swing state in 2024. But imagine, and I don't think this will happen, he wrote,

00:26:17.860 that they put up zero deep state arrests, that they covered up the Epstein scandal and launched a

00:26:24.260 war for Israel against Iran, and then prosecuted Tucker Carlson for trying to get Trump to keep

00:26:30.140 his campaign promises. If you wanted to destroy this country, this would be the best course of action.

00:26:36.340 He's not wrong. He's not wrong. But I mean, truly, imagine that no one goes down for the entire Epstein

00:26:46.240 controversy or the deep state stuff that we spent most of the summer talking about, you know,

00:26:51.580 the charges against Tish James have not been refiled. James Comey, he gets away with it.

00:26:59.720 John Brennan, he gets away with it. Barack Obama gets away with it. All the stuff we covered in July

00:27:04.920 when those memos started to come out that had been classified, right? Everyone gets away with it,

00:27:09.520 but Tucker Carlson gets prosecuted for a phone call with Iran. True, if you wanted to destroy the 1.00

00:27:16.660 country, you wouldn't behave differently. I don't think it's going to happen.

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00:30:02.300 The intimidation campaign, though, that is being unleashed against many of us on the right, it's not

00:30:08.480 now, they're not going after the lefties who opposed the war because I think they're used to them,

00:30:13.740 not by this point, not being in Israel's camp. You know, the left used to be, but now they're not.

00:30:20.000 It started because of a typical oppressor-oppressi narrative in the Gaza war, and now all the polls

00:30:29.000 show that the vast majority of Democrats are against Israel. The country, net-net, is against Israel.

00:30:34.780 Now the opinions of Israel have completely shifted to where a majority of the country has an unfavorable

00:30:39.260 view. This is because of the war in Gaza, and now the war in Iran. I mean, this is Israel's own doing. 0.97

00:30:45.400 But the particular ire has been saved, I think, for those of us on the right, or who campaigned for

00:30:51.700 or helped Trump win, who are not supporting the war. I've watched Dave Smith get it. He's not of the

00:30:58.840 right, but he was pro-Trump for a while there. Joe Rogan, he's against the war and has been critical

00:31:06.380 of Trump. Theovan, not supporting the war, was very harsh on Israel just today, and fair, totally fair, 1.00

00:31:14.240 but didn't understand why American soldiers are dying for a war that is obviously for Israel.

00:31:19.420 So the whole, you know, podcast bro battalion that helped get Trump elected has turned on him over

00:31:27.140 this war. I don't know that they're turning on Trump entirely. I can speak for myself, and I'm sure

00:31:32.120 Tucker, when I say that's not where we are. I'm still very grateful to President Trump for the

00:31:37.280 agenda he's enacted thus far, and I'm really hoping he continues it. I'd love for us to declare victory

00:31:42.140 on this war and get out of it and pray that we've minimized the blowback to the United States of

00:31:48.000 America and our citizens. Very concerned about where this leads, unintended consequences of this war.

00:31:54.900 But at a minimum, I'd love to see the death stop in the Middle East, and that requires putting an end to 1.00

00:32:01.420 this ASAP and getting back on agenda before the midterms. But there's been crazy blowback, and I have been

00:32:10.000 on the receiving end of much of that. And the most nasty have been the Republicans who are most ardent

00:32:17.600 Israel supporters. In particular, Mark Levin, who has decided to make me persona non grata for months

00:32:26.600 now in the Republican Party. I'm not a Republican. I don't know how to tell these people. How many times

00:32:31.160 do I have to say it? Obviously, they don't listen to the show like you guys, but I mean, I've been a

00:32:35.520 registered independent for over 20 years. I am not a registered Republican, nor have I ever considered

00:32:41.200 myself MAGA. I'm MAGA-adjacent, which is good. I like being MAGA-adjacent. I can understand all the

00:32:46.600 points of view, but I don't subscribe to a set of policies pronounced by a president that I have

00:32:54.520 to cover fairly, good, bad, and ugly. And literally, everybody in the show knows that I've been

00:32:59.800 critical of the president from time to time. We've been in many fights over the years where he doesn't

00:33:05.600 speak with me. That's Trump. I don't hold it against him. He's temperamental. And I don't love

00:33:10.820 that stuff. It's not what I put on the list of good things in terms of my own relationship with

00:33:15.000 President Trump. But net-net, I don't think it's a bad thing about him. He's a fighter. He can be

00:33:21.420 kind of volatile. He's very much about loyalty. I get all of that. I'm not on board with it. I'm not

00:33:26.620 in the same business as he is, but I get all of it. I don't take it personally. And generally,

00:33:32.380 when people are attacking me online, generally, I ignore them. I put out a tweet the other day,

00:33:37.000 and I explain this on X, but I was talking about the attacks on Erica Kirk, saying my general

00:33:44.700 philosophy when it comes to PR is if you don't wish to draw attention to a negative attack,

00:33:50.420 then don't draw attention to it. I've said this many times. I feel this now. A lot of folks want

00:33:58.280 to know, what about Candace? Candace knows the way I feel about her shows on Erica and what she says

00:34:04.700 about Erica, and so does Erica. But my general philosophy, and it's not just Candace. Many

00:34:10.000 people have had very unfortunate criticisms of Erica. My general philosophy is if you don't wish

00:34:16.060 to draw attention to a negative attack, then don't draw attention to it. You're just flooding the field

00:34:22.680 with people saying, what is that? What is that? What is that? This is as much as I said about it for

00:34:26.100 that very reason. I have no idea, no wish to promote attacks on Erica. But that's not what

00:34:35.080 most of these people like Ben Shapiro and others are attacking me for. It's because I've become less

00:34:39.740 supportive of Israel. And it's no accident that that line of attacks reached a fever pitch just as

00:34:45.440 I started to raise questions about Israel. Not American Jews, whom I love. I mean, case by case, 1.00

00:34:51.760 right? Like same as Christians and Muslims. But this has nothing to do with my feelings on

00:34:56.920 American Jews. I will continue to have their back as they face rising anti-Semitism and fear for their

00:35:06.900 children and fear as like a loathing for Israel goes up, that a loathing for them might go up, which

00:35:14.380 we have to fight against. But that doesn't mean I won't defend myself when under attack by somebody who

00:35:21.700 might be a prominent American Jewish person. And that's Mark Levin. So since October of this year,

00:35:28.460 he has been coming for me relentlessly. I mean, relentlessly. In the most vile and disgusting

00:35:35.120 personal terms possible. I mean, this is like a 70-year-old man. He's in his like mid to late 0.52

00:35:40.500 60s or 70. Senior citizen with his show on Fox News on the weekend. He never made it in the prime

00:35:47.200 time. Spend five minutes watching his show. You'll see why. He was not prime time material. We used to

00:35:52.400 laugh at him behind the scenes of Fox because he's constantly red in the face and spitting mad and

00:35:56.760 angry. That's his shtick. Okay. There's like some very small audience for that. I mean, very, very small,

00:36:02.640 but that's not my problem. It's Fox's and Levin's. Well, once again, he was at it over the weekend.

00:36:11.480 And they don't always get under my radar, but this one did. And I finally had it. And I went back and

00:36:19.860 looked. Mark Levin has tweeted about me at least 111 times just over the past few months. 111.

00:36:29.600 In total, I've said something about him like a handful, five or six times. I've risen up here or

00:36:37.540 there to say, would you stop? In the beginning, I said, please stop. You're going to get someone

00:36:42.540 killed. I was talking about Tucker because he was so nasty. He was calling him an anti-Semite, 1.00

00:36:46.820 neo-Nazi. Me too. Grifter, neo-Nazi. Like I'm a neo-Nazi. Okay, Mark, sure. And it was very close

00:36:54.600 in time to when Charlie was assassinated. And I begged him, just please stop. Stop. But his only issue

00:37:00.140 is Israel. So if you're not pro-war on Israel's behalf, or if you asked any questions about

00:37:06.360 Israel and Charlie's feelings about it, you were a neo-Nazi that needed to be destroyed. 0.88

00:37:12.080 So most of the time I have ignored those 111 personal attacks on me. But let me just tell you, 0.65

00:37:17.280 he's called me the queen of the clan, Grandma Groyper, which is a comment on my age. Not there yet,

00:37:23.280 but I'm looking forward to one day becoming a grandma. Groyper is the Nick Fuentes group, which

00:37:27.080 believes that the Holocaust didn't happen and made jokes about Jews in ovens being like cookies,

00:37:34.260 as if that's something I would support. This same group of people who throw around that criticism

00:37:41.000 that took a mild comment I made about Nick Fuentes and why people are attracted to him,

00:37:47.520 why he's gaining purchase with some by saying he's an effective communicator. And eliminated all the

00:37:51.880 parts where I said, obviously, we are not talking about his comments on race or

00:37:57.060 Jews or women or none of that could ever be excused, which I made clear. But my critics took that

00:38:04.460 other piece of the clip and circulated it like I was part of his Groyper unit. I mean, it's just so

00:38:09.300 dark what's happening. And I don't bring all of this on the show because it's like, I just want to do

00:38:14.740 the news for you. I don't think you want to get caught up in my own or anybody else's Twitter drama.

00:38:21.300 So I try to be very mindful of that and respectful of you and your time. I bring it up now only because

00:38:27.080 it's getting to a fever pitch here with the threatened prosecution now of Tucker Carlson

00:38:32.820 and the president now weighing in on the Mark Levin feud with yours truly, which I'm about to get to.

00:38:39.780 So, yeah, I'm a Klan member. I'm a neo-Nazi. I'm a grifter. I'm an anti-Semite. I've been reading here.

00:38:47.440 I'm quoting from Mark Levin. I'm evil. I'm a narcissistic lunatic, bottom feeder, sick, sicker,

00:38:55.960 a disgusting fraud, hateful propagandist, low-life sleazy, mentally unhinged, lunatic, pathetic, 1.00

00:39:01.440 flailing, disgraced. I mean, I could keep going. And I've said nothing. Truly. I mean, like one tweet 1.00

00:39:09.460 here or there at most, just to like occasionally, like a pitcher at the mound, give him a brushback.

00:39:13.960 Like, would you just settle down? Go figure out where the fight really is. And the reason he's

00:39:20.000 coming for me is because I do have an audience and he's very, very angry about that fact. 0.93

00:39:25.940 Very fucking angry about that fact. So the attacks escalate. And I don't, you know, I don't bring 0.85

00:39:35.260 them all in front of you guys. I don't, I don't bring the security threats that rise in front of

00:39:39.660 you guys. It's like, trust me, it's gotten very, very ugly for me in that way. And we're dealing

00:39:44.860 with that. But finally, I had enough. And I tweeted at Mark Levin this weekend, something to the effect

00:39:52.820 of I'm very sorry about his micropenis, which I really enjoyed. I mean, I thankfully have never

00:40:00.520 had to look at it firsthand, but you can just tell no one's that angry and misogynistic because there's

00:40:05.380 been lots of misogyny in his tweets about me, like all the time. Who doesn't have that problem?

00:40:11.740 And really we should be feeling sorry for Mark Levin. We should be comforting him because that's got to

00:40:15.780 be really tough. Got to go out on the air and like try to act like you're a big swinging. And as you

00:40:21.060 know, the only people who act like they have the big swinging are the ones that don't. So he's

00:40:27.080 really revealed it to me against my wishes and consent, to be honest. But there it was for me

00:40:32.560 to see, obviously. And, um, so I called him out on it and guess what? He didn't like his new nickname

00:40:38.320 rather than dealing with it. Like a man by making a joke about it, whatever, ignoring it,

00:40:47.420 rushing me back from the plate. He actually ran to the president of the United States.

00:40:54.440 He ran to Donald Trump and had Trump send out a nice tweet about him last night overnight. 0.86

00:41:03.260 And it was a ridiculous tweet for which now the president is getting blowback because

00:41:08.760 he does not have his finger on the pulse of where his party is right now, which is very unusual for 0.91

00:41:14.820 Trump. This is very strange. The tweet, it's very strange that Mark Levin couldn't fight his own

00:41:21.200 battle, but you know, like true pathetic weakling bullies, he's all bark and no bite as soon as you 0.99

00:41:27.560 punch them back. And look, I'm all for taking the high road. And I did try, but after 111 tweets, 0.99

00:41:33.260 increasing the security profile in my own life and attacking me in the most vile terms,

00:41:37.220 I think anybody could see that I was entitled to one below the belt punch, right? When they go low,

00:41:44.140 we go micro penis. That's the way it's going to be. At least in so far as that bully is concerned. 1.00

00:41:52.220 And sure enough, he didn't know what to do. He went crying to the president who's running a war right

00:41:59.140 now, not to mention the country. It's crazy that this happened. And Trump sent out a truth

00:42:05.520 late last night. I'll read to you in part, calling Mark Levin a truly great American patriot.

00:42:12.020 He's somewhat under siege by other people with far less intellect, capability, and love for our

00:42:16.920 country. Mark is tough, strong, and brilliant. I mean, if he's so tough, Mr. President,

00:42:23.080 query why you're fighting his battle. That's why they call him the great one. Sean Hannity realized it.

00:42:29.860 He was special. Mark's a true conservative and has intellect. He's far smarter than those who

00:42:36.260 criticize him. Above all, he's a man of great wisdom and common sense who truly loves our country.

00:42:40.840 When you hear others unfairly attack Mark, remember, they are jealous and angry human beings whose sway

00:42:46.180 is much less than the public understands and will, now that they know where I stand, rapidly diminish.

00:42:52.240 This is Trump. He firmly believes that if he criticizes you, meaning me, Tucker, or anybody,

00:42:57.580 that we will have no more audience left. I mean, I have 10 years to show that's not true.

00:43:05.580 Now, yet, are there some who will say, okay, the president's mad at you, I'm out? I guess so. But

00:43:09.420 I feel like those people left me long ago because nobody ever thought I was a Trump sycophant. Fan,

00:43:15.320 yes. Sycophant, no. And, you know, we've sparred many, many times. Again, he's not naming me,

00:43:22.420 but I think it's fair to say this is about me. It's about Tucker, and it's about some of other

00:43:26.560 Mark's critics on the right. Let's see. Those that speak ill of Mark will quickly fall by the

00:43:35.160 wayside. So if you speak ill of Mark Levin, you will quickly fall by the wayside, as do people

00:43:43.360 whose ideas, policies, and footings are not sound. They're not MAGA. I am. And MAGA includes not

00:43:49.880 allowing Iran, blah, blah, blah, to have a nuclear weapon. So what he's saying is if you 0.91

00:43:54.280 criticize Mark Levin, he says, those who speak ill of Mark will quickly fall by the wayside. They are

00:44:00.180 not MAGA. So you cannot be part of the MAGA movement if you speak ill of Mark Levin. That's

00:44:08.000 where we are. That doesn't hurt me at all. I've not been part of the MAGA movement. Again, I will

00:44:14.760 stay MAGA adjacent, which is where I am happily, but he is going to further destroy his own coalition

00:44:20.980 if he continues with this. Oh, and by the way, then Mark Levin retweeted it. Thank you so much,

00:44:26.340 Mr. President. I mean, like, that's what you do when you have a micropenis. You can't just fight

00:44:31.540 your own battles, and then you have to retweet your praise from the president trying to redeem you

00:44:35.680 as not having one. I'm like, can you imagine anything more emasculating? I'm so horrified by the

00:44:42.400 whole sequence of events. So now I'm just going to keep a running tally of the number of times my

00:44:49.740 obsessive stalker on Fox News tweets about me. And we'll see whether it continues because truly I'm,

00:44:58.680 like, I think I could get a restraining order against him at this point. He is so obsessed.

00:45:03.180 I mean, I have had stalkers pay me less attention than Mark Levin pays me. And I've had enough.

00:45:08.640 You tell me, do I need to, all these people, you know, who are, oh, allegedly so upset about me

00:45:14.060 insulting him physically. I mean, if the sheath fits, did they ever stand up for me? Did they

00:45:22.620 ever have a problem with the vile attacks he launched against me? No, not one of them. Not

00:45:26.560 one of the people trying to call me out for my terrible term, my vulgar term, had anything to say

00:45:31.300 about his vulgarity against me for months now, relentless vulgarity. And by the way, I'm only talking

00:45:36.360 about what he tweeted. He's devoted many, many shows to me and Tucker, Dave Smith, and others.

00:45:43.160 Many. I get mentioned all the time in the most vile terms possible to millions of people. And

00:45:47.940 I've said nothing. And none of the people calling me out for my one tweet, which was, as they say,

00:45:54.200 below the belt, had a thing to say. So I reject them entirely. I reject them entirely. In fact,

00:46:00.740 it's been an interesting thought experiment to see where people might go, right? You're, oh, you are

00:46:06.020 the picture of decorum. You don't believe in that kind of rhetoric, do you? Where is your tweet

00:46:14.360 calling out Mark Levin? I'll wait. So I think to me, there's a lesson here and it's not be vulgar.

00:46:21.440 I don't enjoy that. I mean, obviously, occasionally I can be vulgar just like anybody else. I'm half

00:46:26.040 Irish. It's that eventually you do have to punch your bully in the face just to be able to look at 0.99

00:46:34.660 yourself in the mirror, just for self-respect, nevermind whether it works. I would submit to

00:46:38.140 the jury, it's worked because he went running to a stronger man for protection. Oh my God,

00:46:44.520 the fecklessness of it, the weakling that he has turned out to be. And then, and obviously,

00:46:49.960 by the way, it looks like Trump's truth was drafted by Levin. It doesn't have Trump's normal

00:46:53.960 like spelling errors that he does usually for effect. I think, um, clearly it was drafted by

00:46:58.900 Levin and Levin's post, like thanking the president is equally long. It's the only thing about him that

00:47:05.680 is. Okay. So that's enough about that. That's the drama it's everywhere. So I felt the need to tell

00:47:13.140 you about it. My Twitter dustups, whether they're with the president or anybody else are not interesting

00:47:18.480 news, but the thing about Tucker is, and we do need to watch that this cannot become that country

00:47:23.680 where criticism of a president's wartime decisions land you behind bars or under, you know, lengthy

00:47:31.940 investigations by the DOJ, something that's not even arguably illegal. Okay. Let's spend a little time

00:47:39.860 on the Oscars. Okay. Because they were ridiculous starting with Jimmy Kimmel who had to get up there

00:47:48.700 and couldn't just do the introduction for best documentary. He had to get some snipes in at the 0.73

00:47:54.080 first lady and a Trump watch. As you know, there are some countries whose leaders don't support free

00:48:00.880 speech. I'm not at liberty to say which. Let's just leave it at North Korea and CBS. Fortunately,

00:48:09.220 fortunately for all of us, there is an international community of filmmakers dedicated to telling the

00:48:21.620 truth, oftentimes at great risk to make films that teach us, that call out injustice, that inspire us

00:48:28.040 to take action. And there are also documentaries where you walk around the white house trying on

00:48:33.460 shoes. Okay. So he's got to slam the first lady. Nice. By the way, her documentary has done very,

00:48:40.420 very well. It's pulled in tens of millions of dollars, way more than any documentary of its kind.

00:48:45.980 And, uh, he's incapable of even complimenting the first lady or just staying away from her.

00:48:50.140 He can't, he cannot help himself and got a, got a big laugh from the audience who cannot stand the

00:48:56.540 president or the first lady. It's disgusting. Then Conan O'Brien, the host decided to take a shot 0.99

00:49:02.000 at the organization of our dead friend, Charlie Kirk. He thought it would be terrific if, um, he just

00:49:09.600 took a shot at Charlie's organization, which is they're fighting right now to save, which they are

00:49:13.640 doing everything they can. And, um, from the stage of the Oscars thought it would be great to bring up

00:49:19.840 the turning point halftime show, which was only offered because bad bunny was, had made so many

00:49:26.660 anti USA statements and was obviously the opposite of a patriot that turning point USA felt the need

00:49:32.320 to offer alternate programming for people like me who did not want to support him as he got out there

00:49:37.400 spoke only in Spanish and talked about the America he loved, which involved all the countries

00:49:44.240 in the Western hemisphere. Uh, here is that moment. I should warn you tonight could get political.

00:49:51.700 Okay. And if that makes you uncomfortable, there's an alternate Oscars being hosted by Kid Rock.

00:49:57.860 Yeah. It's at the Dave and Buster's down the street. A lot of tickets for that.

00:50:04.740 Okay. Right. Turning point doesn't have the same money that the Hollywood crowd has. So they don't have

00:50:12.760 quite the glitz and the glamor for their alternate halftime show, though they'd put on an amazing

00:50:16.880 show that actually set records, which you would know Conan. If you would take one step out of your

00:50:22.200 white privilege, woke Hollywood bubble. Remember the ridiculous soundbite we showed you of Conan with 0.96

00:50:29.120 Michelle Obama, just in case you were thinking Conan is a man of reason. He's like the more reasonable

00:50:33.280 one. He's not that's Leno by the way, not him, but I do want to get to this. There was somebody worth

00:50:41.460 praising to people. Actually, Nicole Kidman, when she gave an interview on the red carpet beforehand

00:50:46.800 was asked what she did that day. And she talked about how she went to church, that it was Sunday

00:50:51.600 and she goes to church on Sunday. And that's where she spent her day. And the interviewer turned into

00:50:56.800 a puddle with a little wicked witch of the West hat on top of it. They're not used to hearing answers

00:51:02.560 like that from big Hollywood stars. So good for Nicole Kidman. Secondly, Jesse Buckley, who won best

00:51:11.080 actress for her stint in Hamnet, which I haven't seen, got up there and gave the following

00:51:19.100 acceptance speech, which was amazing. Sat 9.

00:51:26.360 You, Fred, I love you, man. I love you. You're the most incredible dad. You're my best friend. And I

00:51:34.560 want to have 20,000 more babies with you. I do. I do. And Isla, my little girl who is eight months,

00:51:42.520 who has absolutely no idea what's going on and is probably dreaming of milk. But this is kind of a

00:51:48.180 big deal. And I love you. And I love being your mom. And I can't wait to discover life beside you.

00:51:53.220 Chloe and Maggie, you. To get to know this incandescent woman and journey to understand the capacity of a

00:52:08.380 mother's love is the greatest collision of my life. It's Mother's Day in the UK today.

00:52:17.220 So I would like to dedicate this to the beautiful chaos of a mother's heart.

00:52:30.800 Wow. You just don't see that kind of thing at the Oscars. Getting up there and using her time to 0.72

00:52:37.720 praise motherhood. Talk about the joy of having a baby. Talking about how much she loved her spouse

00:52:44.980 and family. That was extraordinary. Good for her. She's Irish. And I didn't know about her prior to

00:52:53.540 this. And I haven't seen that movie. But my gosh, I love what she said. Last but not least,

00:52:59.560 let's squeeze in Sot 10. Michael B. Jordan winning the Oscar for Best Actor for his role in Sinners.

00:53:05.420 And the Oscar goes to...

00:53:10.040 Michael B. Jordan.

00:53:11.140 God is good. God is good. God is good. And, um...

00:53:19.700 Yeah, mama, what's up?

00:53:23.420 Y'all know how I feel about my mother and my father's here. Your pops, where you at?

00:53:29.060 My dad came in from Ghana. He's going for Ghana to be here. 1.00

00:53:33.020 My brother, my sister's here. My family. Thank you, everybody in this room and everybody at home

00:53:37.920 for supporting me over my career. I feel it. I know you guys want me to do well. And I want to do

00:53:43.960 that because you guys bet on me. So thank you for keeping... For keep betting on me.

00:53:51.440 Humble. Thanking his family. Thanking God. Shout out to his parents. Perfect. Spot on. Not too

00:53:57.820 self-aggrandizing. All the right notes. So good for him. I'm not surprised, right? Michael B. He's been

00:54:03.720 great all along. Love this new gal who I didn't know about, Jesse Buckley. Conan, Jimmy, predictable.

00:54:09.800 And so is Jane Fonda, but we'll save that for tomorrow. Think about this. In 2006, $20,000

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The Megyn Kelly Show - March 16, 2026

Tucker Accuses CIA of Spying on Him, Megyn Responds to Mark Levin, & Oscars Lowlights and Highlights ｜ Ep. 1273

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