The Michael Knowles Show - Candace Owens Explains Why You Should NEVER Apologize To Woke Mob

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00:00:37.620 Hey everybody, Michael here. If you have not gotten enough of my friend Candace Owens

00:00:42.080 by reading Cardi B's Twitter page, then you are going to want to stick around. I sat down with

00:00:47.960 Candace just a few days ago. We chatted about all things relevant to her life, to our culture,

00:00:58.120 ranging from our system of government and our politics, all the way to Meghan Markle,

00:01:03.220 who I suspect is probably going to try to take over our system of politics at some point.

00:01:08.500 So go check it out. We've got a fun interview with Candace. And also after that, be sure to check

00:01:13.420 out the first episode of the Candace show over at the Daily Wire.

00:01:23.800 I am joined now by my friend, Candace Owens. Candace, I can't help but notice, you are a woman,

00:01:31.960 you're black. 0.89

00:01:33.200 A woman of color. 0.98

00:01:33.920 I'm sorry, a woman of color. You are famous. You are American. You married a Brit. And yet, 0.97

00:01:43.300 you turned out great. What was your secret and where did Meghan Markle go wrong?

00:01:47.320 Meghan Markle went wrong a lot of ways. First and foremost, she is a Hollywood leftist. That's all 1.00

00:01:54.180 you need to know. You know what I mean? And this story, this whole, everyone was like,

00:01:59.380 why did you get into this? Why does this really get under your skin? Because I married an Englishman.

00:02:04.520 My husband's father was in the House of Lords.

00:02:07.200 Is that like being a mechanic or something? I don't know. Is that like an electrician shop somewhere

00:02:12.540 in the U.K.?

00:02:13.180 Yeah, exactly. Right.

00:02:13.320 Okay, yeah.

00:02:14.300 And so it was definitely a learning curve for me, even when I met my husband, going to England.

00:02:20.220 And there's just like different sets of rules. Their society is very traditional.

00:02:24.400 And I was just, I loved it. I loved stepping into someone's culture and not trying to change it.

00:02:29.380 And this is the thing about the left that drives me crazy, is that they just have no appreciation for tradition.

00:02:34.340 They have no appreciation for history. It's why they think that everything between Los Angeles and New York

00:02:39.500 needs to be, is backwards. 0.60

00:02:40.880 Right.

00:02:41.240 Right.

00:02:41.420 The flyover.

00:02:42.160 And yeah, the flyover, right? It needs a makeover. And for her to just do that, to go to this country 0.97

00:02:48.460 with all of their traditions and the queen, of course, being so significant, the meaning of her just to have

00:02:54.840 been sitting on the throne for that long and having decades.

00:02:58.620 With dignity, with grace.

00:03:00.140 Yes. And she has seen the country through so much. And to do what they did, just cheapen that and say,

00:03:05.120 well, it's racism. This is the reason we had to leave. It's racism. Meghan Markle, look black to you? 1.00

00:03:10.720 Did anybody look at her and say, oh, Harry's dating a black woman? 0.83

00:03:13.800 My mother, seriously, my Sicilian mother was much darker than Meghan Markle. You would have no idea.

00:03:19.740 She has that thing in Hollywood, they call it ethnically ambiguous, where you can play sort of any role.

00:03:24.460 Right. She could have played an Indian woman in films. She could have said that she, she could have said she was

00:03:28.680 mixed race. I would have bought that. She could have definitely said she was Italian. She has freckles. 0.97

00:03:32.720 You know, you could have just think that, you know, it's completely obscure. And yet she, she's like, you know,

00:03:37.540 I'm less than 25% black, but I've realized that because I'm getting bad press,

00:03:41.760 I can say the bad press is because I'm less than 25% black. Because there is this purity test.

00:03:46.700 Every time they write a hit piece, they say, well, is there any black in this person? Well, 0.81

00:03:49.820 that's the reason we're going to, we're going to write a horrible piece about them.

00:03:52.740 And especially being me, because I have a public profile. And as you know,

00:03:56.700 they have written so many bad things about me. Really nice things.

00:03:59.260 Really nice things. Like that time they accused me of a mosque, mosque shooting in New Zealand.

00:04:03.400 That's right. I've never been to New Zealand. I don't even write about mosques or Muslims or anything,

00:04:07.100 but they were like, Candace did this. I woke up, worldwide news. I have people in France,

00:04:11.260 like in China. And people were asking me for comments everywhere. And I don't think I have

00:04:15.760 ever once said this bad press is because I'm black. So it's just, it's such a, there's a cowardice. 0.81

00:04:22.260 And it's such an excuse. I saw there was a great headline in the Babylon Bee said,

00:04:26.120 Meghan Markle inspires millions of girls by showing that no matter how rich,

00:04:29.720 beautiful and famous you are, you too can be oppressed.

00:04:32.520 Right. She's oppressed. And she's sitting across from Oprah. You know what I mean? And she's, 0.53

00:04:36.340 they've been living in a, actually, I think at some point they were at Tyler Perry's $100 million

00:04:40.840 home somewhere flying on his planes. And you really want me to buy that you were chased out

00:04:45.800 of the country because I guess you were less than 25% black. And then the richest part of the story 1.00

00:04:50.620 is them claiming that Archie wasn't given a title because he was black. Has anyone seen a picture

00:04:56.040 of Archie? And I say this seriously, if you believe that Archie suffered anti-black racism,

00:05:00.920 then I'm a Nigerian prince and I just need your credit card details. And, uh, you're going to see

00:05:05.700 just look at a picture, right? Stranded Island. This, you know, I'm so glad to hear this is your

00:05:09.380 take on this because I have to say, I was a little frustrated. I understood it, but I was frustrated

00:05:13.280 with the conservative reaction to this, which is who cares about the Royal family? I stopped caring

00:05:19.620 about them in 1776. To me, that argument falls flat because the Royal family represents this long

00:05:28.600 conservative tradition in the United Kingdom. And to me, I think the reason the Meghan Markle story

00:05:35.140 has really got you excited, kind of excited a lot of us is because it's this awful sort of modern

00:05:41.580 millennial idea that everything in the past is bad and wicked and racist is the word for that.

00:05:48.880 And I, no matter what privileges I have, we all are so privileged. I am actually a victim and you

00:05:54.220 all need to feel bad for me. And the minute that I can't do exactly what I want to do,

00:05:58.980 this woman chose to marry into the Royal family. It's not like it was a blind date.

00:06:03.440 Right.

00:06:03.620 It's not like on the third date, Harry said, Oh, you know, darling, I have something I have to tell

00:06:06.920 you. I haven't told you about my job yet, but, uh, you know, she didn't, it's not as though she

00:06:11.480 thought his first name were Prince, you know, like the musician, right? She knows who he is.

00:06:15.920 And she chose to do this.

00:06:18.240 Oh, you know what's up? She said she never Googled him. No, no. They got, when he got down

00:06:22.560 on one knee, that's when she was like, Oh my gosh, he's a Prince. And she found out it was

00:06:26.520 Princess Diana. And even that is so absurd. Michael, I Google everyone. I'll get into a

00:06:30.980 car with an Uber driver and I'll be like, what's your name? Just check this background here and make

00:06:34.420 sure things are okay. You're going to tell me you wanted a date and you didn't Google, you didn't

00:06:37.500 LinkedIn profile. This is what we do. Like this is, and especially her who a big piece of story

00:06:42.080 that's missing. She went to the UK with the intention of marrying up. She had a PR person

00:06:46.620 who wrote an entire piece. She hired a public relations firm to try to get, um, to start 0.99

00:06:52.520 dating a football player. So that was her thing. She was like, okay, they found a football player.

00:06:56.020 She was trying to get a date with them.

00:06:56.800 She really over-performed here, yeah. 0.93

00:06:57.500 Right, exactly. And she landed on a Prince. And you know, Piers Morgan, who I really can't

00:07:00.820 stand, but he talks about how he reached out to her and she kept saying she wanted to get

00:07:04.160 involved in the circles because it just wasn't working for her in America. It wasn't working for her

00:07:07.680 in Canada. So she was like, okay, let me try, let me try England. But she had no idea.

00:07:12.080 Who Prince Harry or Prince William or Kate Middleton, she just missed that whole thing.

00:07:15.680 Right, of course.

00:07:16.540 She just was there.

00:07:17.120 Wow, what are the odds?

00:07:17.860 Yeah.

00:07:18.160 What are the odds?

00:07:18.780 Did you see what she described herself as? Because we should talk about that.

00:07:21.640 I didn't watch the interview, but she said she felt like the little mermaid who fell in

00:07:26.120 love with a prince and lost her voice.

00:07:28.580 If only.

00:07:29.200 I know, right.

00:07:29.540 If only.

00:07:30.840 Just trying to think of a straight face like she did. Let me try. I felt like, you know,

00:07:35.780 the little mermaid who went over and found a prince and fell in love and lost my voice.

00:07:41.700 It's just as believable as you say this on air, of course. My favorite part, as she's

00:07:47.840 saying these sorts of things, occasionally Harry would try to say, well, you notice she

00:07:52.700 says, shh, get out of here. Harry, stop it. Don't listen to it. Camera on me, folks.

00:07:57.800 Oh, she's so unbearable. And again, I'm glad you brought up the fact that a lot of conservatives

00:08:02.100 were so dismissive. I hate that because, you know, we so often talk about how the left is

00:08:07.460 ignorant, right? To not try to understand what it is about the royals that is so significant. 0.73

00:08:12.920 It is not just like, oh, I'll praise them because they're kings and queens and princesses. It

00:08:18.240 really isn't about that. What they represent is history, right? And that is what they love

00:08:23.560 about them is that these people, they never issue political statements. They don't just

00:08:26.720 go where the wind blows. And there is something about Americans, even the conservative Americans,

00:08:31.020 that we have this strand of progressivism because, listen, look, our country was built on that,

00:08:35.140 right? We were built on kind of tearing down traditions. And sometimes, yes, traditions

00:08:38.800 need to be torn down. But where we're at today, where you have no appreciation for anything,

00:08:44.020 and that is why hashtag abolish, you know, which they're so dumb to like abolish the monarchy 0.91

00:08:48.440 as if the monarchy has any power anymore. But and actually abolish the royal family is where 0.87

00:08:53.400 we're at because they just want everything torn down, newer, faster, and they want the world

00:08:57.780 to look like whatever Hollywood singers and actresses think that it ought to look like.

00:09:02.220 Well, this was it. It's sort of this woman seemed that she wanted to play a Disney princess 0.99

00:09:08.840 more than she wanted to be an actual princess. And how true is that of so much of our society?

00:09:15.380 You know, Edmund Burke, the great conservative philosopher, his big distinction between the

00:09:19.960 American Revolution and the French Revolution was that the American Revolution was kind of

00:09:24.380 conservative. It didn't destroy everything, right? Whereas the French Revolution really did

00:09:28.180 destroy everything. And so there was always this sense in America that we want to really,

00:09:33.200 we want to be the real thing. You know, there is a kind of tradition here. And we didn't want to

00:09:40.140 become this really shallow, abstracted culture that unfortunately, it seems like we're becoming.

00:09:46.960 Right.

00:09:47.100 And you know, you hear so often from conservatives, we need to take back the culture. We need to fight

00:09:51.820 back in the culture. Well, you know, in order to do that, we're going to need to get really serious.

00:09:57.500 And we're not, we're going to have to start saying like, no, don't do that. That's a, that is a bad

00:10:01.940 thing. You know, we need to defend an older set of standards.

00:10:05.780 Right. I think too often we meet people in the middle and it's such an easy game, but there's,

00:10:11.100 wait, there's actually an expression that you used to talk about when it, what is the Overton theory,

00:10:15.180 right?

00:10:15.420 The Overton window.

00:10:16.060 Yeah, exactly. That's exactly what the left is doing. It's brilliant, right? They're just,

00:10:18.660 they say something so extreme, like here we are. And they say something so extreme that they're

00:10:23.580 like, men can give birth. I'm like, no, they can't, no, they can't. But eventually we say, 0.99

00:10:27.520 okay, please don't say that. We'll meet you halfway. And now we're edging closer to where they are.

00:10:30.860 You know how we do this. We always, we always say, look, men, men can't give birth, right? Men are

00:10:34.500 not women. But then we start edging in this way when we'll start saying so-and-so is a biological male.

00:10:39.700 Right. And it's like, no, it's a man.

00:10:41.220 He's just a man.

00:10:41.800 He's just a man.

00:10:42.500 He's not like, he's not like a psychological woman, but it's just, 0.96

00:10:45.720 it's just one thing. But because we start to be conciliatory, guess what? You look up 10 years

00:10:51.440 later and you're way far down the line.

00:10:53.340 And that's what's happened. That's literally what's happened, especially in this last decade,

00:10:56.560 is that we just keep meeting them halfway. But the halfway is also, it's always moving towards

00:11:00.760 their ridiculously far left point. And I think that there needs to be more. People say to me,

00:11:05.260 oh, Candace, you're so far right. I'm like, actually, I'm just right. Right? I'm just right.

00:11:08.760 I'm actually almost in the middle because you guys have gone so crazy.

00:11:12.260 10 years ago, you would have been considered a centrist.

00:11:15.020 A centrist. A normal human being. Like, you know, when we accepted that men and women

00:11:19.760 were men and women, and now you're actually being called a bigot. I mean, yesterday,

00:11:24.420 International Women's Day, the ACLU tweets about saying, you know, trans women are women.

00:11:30.020 On International Women's Day, you said, men are women.

00:11:33.180 That's what I said. That's what I said.

00:11:33.760 The patriarchy strikes you back.

00:11:35.220 The trans woman, it means man, right? This is a different word for man. So you just tweeted out,

00:11:40.280 in order to celebrate women, let me tell you how much men can be women.

00:11:43.540 You know, though, you're being modest here. And this is actually something I'm very excited for

00:11:46.600 about your show, Candace, right, which is launching, is that you, right, you're just saying

00:11:52.060 sort of normal things. And I don't think anything you're saying is extreme. But most people do not

00:11:57.660 have the cojones to do it. Talking about men and women. Most people don't have the guts to do it. 0.99

00:12:03.280 And you, I don't know what it is, because we've been friends for years. You know, I remember you

00:12:08.660 back in the old timey days on YouTube. And you, more than just about anybody, have been able to

00:12:17.320 withstand this onslaught from the left and throw it back in their face and not let them cancel you.

00:12:24.000 And it's really, I don't know how you've done it.

00:12:27.140 I just hope that I show people that there's no consequence, you know, for telling the truth.

00:12:31.820 And you just say it. Say it again. Say it again. Say it again. They can only cancel you so many

00:12:36.100 times, right? Once they went to, once I survived, like, being accused of a mosque shooting in New

00:12:40.920 Zealand, I was like, okay, well, where do we go from here? What else are you going to accuse me of

00:12:44.040 here, right? And so I think that I've just bounced back and I've been unapologetic, which is the most

00:12:49.660 important thing. Don't say sorry. Don't say sorry. Because once you start saying sorry to the left,

00:12:54.340 you will never stop saying sorry to the left, right? Because it's not about them needing an

00:12:58.660 apology. They want pure capitulation. They want to make sure you capitulate to everything they say.

00:13:03.900 What they're seeking, actually, is their own kind of monarchy, right? Like, they're seeking to rule

00:13:08.340 over you, your opinions, your ideas. And their established church.

00:13:11.280 Exactly. That is their established church. They seek for you to be their peasants. And the second you say 0.92

00:13:15.840 sorry, you become that. So I just say, don't say sorry.

00:13:18.400 Speaking of the church, I mean, this is something I've really struggled with. I think you're completely

00:13:21.320 right. But look, as a Christian, I want to apologize when I feel I've done something wrong. I have no

00:13:28.680 problem doing that. To, oh, miserable sinner that I am, I really don't mind it. Except I know that's not 0.68

00:13:35.260 really what it is. That's not, when you apologize to the left, it's not, first of all, they're not

00:13:41.280 seeking that in good faith. It's beating a dog into submission.

00:13:43.800 Yes. That is what it is. It's sort of, it's unfortunate. Because I'd love to be in a society

00:13:48.360 where I'd say, oh, yeah, maybe I shouldn't have said that. Sorry.

00:13:50.320 Yeah, exactly. And, you know, it's funny, because I did an interview the other day, and they said

00:13:54.320 to me, sort of in preparation for the show, like, is there anything that you look back on in the past

00:13:59.560 that you're sorry for? Like, things that you've tweeted and things of that nature. And I said,

00:14:03.000 no. And I said, because I want to give permission to people that are following me to know that

00:14:07.420 you're allowed to change your mind. Yeah. Remember this thing where I used to grow up? Like, you

00:14:11.560 know, a long time ago, I used to think Barbies were the coolest thing, and then all day, society

00:14:15.260 should be run by us playing Barbies in the room. That was Candace at four years old. Am I allowed 1.00

00:14:19.140 to evolve from that position without apologizing for my past? Well, I love it. You know, people throw

00:14:23.400 this at you a lot. They'll say, you used to be left wing, but now you're conservative. Ha ha, I got you.

00:14:28.900 Yeah. I got a couple of brain cells. I opened a book. You know what I mean? I opened

00:14:32.880 a book, and I'm like, it's just so ridiculous. And what is so alarming about that sort of 0.96

00:14:37.920 a culture, like, forget us. Like, we're adults. We're old. We have kids now, right?

00:14:41.000 Yeah, we're old, man. We're old people now. I'm trying to get fat, too.

00:14:43.880 But think about kids. I'm already old, but I want to be old and fat.

00:14:45.620 Think about kids. How hard it is to be a kid today when you are being told that if you

00:14:50.580 make a mistake, you're done. You're over. You're canceled. You know, you say one wrong

00:14:54.840 thing. When I was a kid, we didn't have Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, so I could just be a

00:14:58.280 crappy human being for one day and say horrible things, and then the next day be like, oh, you know,

00:15:01.600 that didn't feel too good. I'm going to be someone different today. And I was allowed

00:15:04.060 to grow. That's what growing up is. You learn because you do things wrong. Even toddlers.

00:15:07.740 They're violent toddlers. They're throwing things down. You know what I mean?

00:15:10.460 They are. 0.94

00:15:10.860 Violent human beings. They think through things, and they just, they choose violence every 0.91

00:15:13.900 day, toddlers, right?

00:15:14.700 Even my cute little newborn, you know, he'll throw punches at me.

00:15:17.760 Same. Yeah, same thing. And it's like, now the left is like, you are exactly who you are

00:15:21.980 when you are two is when you are four. Candace, when Candace, three years ago in politics,

00:15:25.780 I've pretty much grown up politically, you know, has to, you know, make apologies or make

00:15:30.240 a men's, no. If I said it then, I meant it then. But if I transform my opinion, here's 0.96

00:15:34.140 why. This is what it looks like to grow up.

00:15:35.980 Right.

00:15:36.320 That's right. That's right. You know, if I had social media when I was 11 or 12.

00:15:43.540 Canceled.

00:15:44.020 Yeah. Could you imagine?

00:15:45.300 And the show right now.

00:15:46.340 Because that stuff is there forever. But I love it because it takes a lot of gumption

00:15:49.000 to be able to say, yeah, oh, I thought this thing a few years ago. Yeah. And now, guess

00:15:52.120 what? I've matured. I've educated myself. Maybe that's something we can all do as a culture

00:15:57.400 as well. You know, one great way people can do that? Tuning in to Candace on The

00:16:01.680 Yellow Wire. I can't wait. It's going to be fabulous. I'm so excited for the show.

00:16:05.020 Yeah. I'll be issuing tons of non-apologies when people are offended. I will the next day.

00:16:09.040 I mean, even seeing that tail in between the legs, copy and paste an apology that so many

00:16:13.640 people do. Like, you know, like they say one thing and then it's suddenly like the next

00:16:16.720 day on their show, they're like, you know, I want to apologize for some things that I

00:16:20.560 said that made perfect sense. But I hear you that you're offended. So therefore, we're all

00:16:25.440 growing. And it's just like, shut up. Just say, I'm sorry you were offended. Yeah. And 1.00

00:16:29.580 maybe don't watch my show. There have been a few times where there's been a lot of pressure

00:16:33.880 to give the apology. And I think there's an old Sicilian expression. It's just a little

00:16:37.300 flick underneath your chin. That's what I think about it. My dear, I can't wait for the show

00:16:42.500 to start. Everybody's got to tune in and watch it. Candace on The Daily Wire. I will be eagerly

00:16:47.880 watching it just from right across the way. And I'll see you around the office water cooler.

00:16:52.200 Yeah. Love it. Ta-da.

00:16:55.440 Bye.

00:16:56.440 Bye.

00:16:57.440 Bye.

00:16:58.440 Bye.

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The Michael Knowles Show - March 20, 2021

Candace Owens Explains Why You Should NEVER Apologize To Woke Mob

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