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00:00:58.360 Remember a couple weeks ago

00:01:04.000 when the Libs were furious

00:01:05.280 because President Trump was going to remove art

00:01:08.520 from the Smithsonian?

00:01:10.480 Well, the Daily Mail has a list of the art

00:01:13.620 that the president reportedly wants to remove.

00:01:16.780 And now I'm furious too.

00:01:18.660 Because after taking a look

00:01:20.160 at a few of these examples,

00:01:21.720 I cannot believe that President Trump

00:01:24.620 wouldn't promise to burn them as well.

00:01:26.820 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:01:27.600 This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:43.380 Welcome back to the show.

00:01:47.380 There's a lot of scuttlebutt right now

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00:03:32.340 This art, it's too good.

00:03:34.020 It's too good.

00:03:34.920 So the Daily Mail is reporting

00:03:36.720 on some of the art

00:03:38.260 that President Trump wants to remove

00:03:39.920 from the Smithsonian.

00:03:42.340 So many layers to this.

00:03:43.680 First of all,

00:03:44.180 what the White House went out to do

00:03:45.780 was to examine

00:03:47.800 not just the art at the Smithsonian,

00:03:49.180 but even the way the art was presented.

00:03:51.100 Because like all of the other

00:03:52.840 cultural institutions

00:03:54.020 and government institutions

00:03:55.640 and educational institutions

00:03:57.000 over the past several decades,

00:03:59.240 the Smithsonian has been pushing

00:04:01.020 a very left-wing view of America,

00:04:03.920 which is anti-American,

00:04:06.760 which is contrary to the truth,

00:04:08.700 which gives a partial view of history

00:04:10.820 that is actually contrary

00:04:12.360 to the broader story of the country.

00:04:14.180 So as we enter the bicesquicentennial,

00:04:16.360 the 250th anniversary of America,

00:04:18.100 it's time to re-examine that.

00:04:20.020 There's nothing wrong about this.

00:04:21.240 There's nothing authoritarian about this.

00:04:23.020 There's nothing Philistine

00:04:24.560 or uncultured about this.

00:04:26.080 This is part of the job of the president

00:04:28.100 is to lead the country,

00:04:29.980 to help tell the story of the country.

00:04:31.900 The president was elected

00:04:33.160 not only with the Electoral College,

00:04:34.960 but also by the popular vote.

00:04:36.880 So the people are asking

00:04:39.420 for a correction to the errors

00:04:41.720 of the past recent years

00:04:44.040 and of the past recent decades.

00:04:45.940 And that doesn't just mean

00:04:47.300 white papers and policy wonkery.

00:04:49.180 That also means cultural aspects.

00:04:51.340 That also means

00:04:52.080 the self-conception of America.

00:04:54.180 This is what the people voted for,

00:04:55.800 and they have the right

00:04:57.000 to President Trump doing his job.

00:04:59.700 So what kind of art

00:05:02.120 are we talking about?

00:05:02.840 Here's one example.

00:05:03.520 This one is by Rigoberto Gonzalez,

00:05:08.900 and it's a family

00:05:10.240 climbing up a ladder

00:05:12.460 to cross the border wall,

00:05:14.940 the Mexican border wall.

00:05:15.840 And it's a lady with a kid,

00:05:20.500 like a big baby,

00:05:21.680 like a big mannerist-looking baby,

00:05:23.840 and then an illegal alien guy,

00:05:25.980 and then another kid.

00:05:28.640 And I guess it's a Mexican family.

00:05:31.840 I don't know.

00:05:32.940 The artist here, Rigoberto,

00:05:34.400 says my work is political,

00:05:35.580 and that painting in particular

00:05:36.640 was questioning

00:05:37.340 the anti-immigrant sentiment

00:05:38.760 of the time.

00:05:39.780 To be clear here,

00:05:41.160 the painting isn't

00:05:42.320 just about immigration.

00:05:44.120 It's specifically

00:05:45.100 about illegal immigration,

00:05:46.660 so clearly about illegal immigration

00:05:48.340 because it's the guy

00:05:49.180 crossing the border wall.

00:05:52.020 Illegally.

00:05:52.480 He's not at a checkpoint.

00:05:53.620 He's not flying over

00:05:54.640 on an airplane.

00:05:55.280 He's illegally crossing

00:05:56.340 a border wall.

00:05:56.940 So the Smithsonian,

00:05:58.260 get this,

00:05:58.900 the Smithsonian,

00:05:59.900 the National Museum,

00:06:01.140 is promoting,

00:06:03.900 subverting

00:06:04.420 one of the most basic laws

00:06:05.640 about America.

00:06:07.580 Now,

00:06:08.340 I don't care how lib you are.

00:06:11.120 Certainly,

00:06:11.780 you would grant

00:06:12.400 that the National Museum

00:06:14.860 in the nation's capital,

00:06:17.700 funded by taxpayer dollars,

00:06:20.080 surely you would grant

00:06:21.280 that that museum

00:06:22.480 should not be actively promoting,

00:06:24.560 subverting the most basic of laws.

00:06:26.120 There's something discordant about that.

00:06:27.920 Surely you would admit that, right?

00:06:29.440 Then on top of that,

00:06:30.980 the painting sucks.

00:06:32.880 It's just not good art.

00:06:35.040 I don't know.

00:06:35.800 It's not the worst art

00:06:37.220 I've ever seen,

00:06:38.240 but it's not good.

00:06:40.640 The guy ain't Caravaggio, okay?

00:06:42.940 So it's a fine,

00:06:44.820 like,

00:06:45.680 if you had a friend

00:06:46.700 in high school

00:06:47.360 who was a pretty decent

00:06:49.060 illustrator or painter,

00:06:51.200 this is about on that level.

00:06:54.660 Forget about the subject matter

00:06:55.840 for a second.

00:06:56.520 This art just simply

00:06:57.600 isn't good enough

00:06:58.380 to go into the Smithsonian.

00:06:59.860 It was obviously only put there

00:07:01.900 because,

00:07:02.860 as the artist says,

00:07:03.860 my art is political.

00:07:05.600 And this is what happens

00:07:06.580 with so much of modern art,

00:07:08.840 is not only is the political message

00:07:11.980 in your face and abhorrent,

00:07:14.600 but often the political message

00:07:16.880 is a kind of clever trick

00:07:18.640 to get around the fact

00:07:19.820 that the quality of the art,

00:07:21.160 the technical skill

00:07:22.280 involved in the art

00:07:23.100 just isn't that good.

00:07:24.100 So this is garbage,

00:07:25.540 and I'm not saying

00:07:26.080 it has to be burned.

00:07:27.140 I'm not saying it has to be

00:07:27.880 thrown in the trash,

00:07:28.900 but this should be sold

00:07:30.380 at TJ Maxx or something.

00:07:31.960 This should be in some kitsch section

00:07:33.920 of a discount store

00:07:35.460 that you can put next

00:07:36.700 to your Live, Laugh, Love sign

00:07:37.800 in your living room.

00:07:38.520 This has no place

00:07:39.260 at the Smithsonian.

00:07:40.400 It should be kicked out

00:07:41.400 for reasons of taste

00:07:43.120 and reasons of politics.

00:07:45.800 Next one,

00:07:47.360 in the National Museum

00:07:49.120 of African American History

00:07:50.420 and Culture,

00:07:50.860 a museum that itself

00:07:53.340 should be removed

00:07:54.020 for two reasons.

00:07:54.920 One, because the architecture

00:07:56.360 is hideous

00:07:57.120 and it's a mar

00:07:57.980 on the National Mall,

00:07:59.100 which has otherwise

00:07:59.740 beautiful monuments

00:08:00.720 on it generally.

00:08:01.780 But two,

00:08:02.580 it's offensive to black people

00:08:04.120 because it says that blacks

00:08:05.440 aren't part of regular

00:08:06.340 American history.

00:08:07.360 So there is an American

00:08:08.280 history museum

00:08:09.000 and they say,

00:08:10.320 no, no, blacks need

00:08:10.980 their own museum

00:08:11.900 because they're not part

00:08:13.060 of regular American history.

00:08:14.260 So for two levels,

00:08:17.040 they should get rid

00:08:17.780 of the whole museum.

00:08:18.340 But within the museum,

00:08:21.740 there is the monumental work

00:08:24.440 by Mr. Ibram X. Kendi,

00:08:27.460 and that is

00:08:27.740 How to Be an Anti-Racist.

00:08:29.360 Ibram Kendi just lost

00:08:30.660 his slush fund institute

00:08:33.020 at Boston University.

00:08:34.960 He is a race hustler

00:08:36.160 par excellence.

00:08:37.340 His career was effectively

00:08:38.600 ended along with that

00:08:39.760 of Robin DiAngelo

00:08:40.720 by my friend Matt Walsh

00:08:41.960 in his movie Am I Racist,

00:08:43.540 available exclusively

00:08:44.480 on Daily Wire Plus.

00:08:45.620 This book,

00:08:48.240 it's not just that

00:08:49.580 I disagree with the book.

00:08:50.740 I disagree with

00:08:51.820 Kapital by Karl Marx.

00:08:54.640 I don't think necessarily

00:08:56.480 we should burn Kapital.

00:08:57.780 I think it's worth reading

00:08:58.580 to have an understanding

00:08:59.600 of how political philosophy

00:09:01.560 is developed.

00:09:02.840 There are plenty of books

00:09:03.640 I disagree with.

00:09:04.520 I disagree with

00:09:05.660 many of the feminists.

00:09:08.100 I disagree with

00:09:08.680 Mary Wollstonecraft.

00:09:09.600 I don't think we should

00:09:10.140 burn Mary Wollstonecraft's book.

00:09:11.460 I don't think we should

00:09:11.980 necessarily take her books

00:09:13.200 out of museums.

00:09:13.780 I disagree with a lot of people.

00:09:15.580 Ibram Kendi's book

00:09:16.640 is illiterate dreck.

00:09:18.280 It is absolute trash.

00:09:20.900 And it really should not be

00:09:24.560 in any self-respecting bookstore.

00:09:26.500 Perhaps it can be

00:09:27.340 in the library

00:09:28.340 as a kind of ironic inclusion,

00:09:31.800 like as part of a clown show

00:09:32.960 or something.

00:09:34.120 And it certainly should not be

00:09:36.140 in a museum of the Smithsonian.

00:09:40.360 It's not that its political views

00:09:43.100 are too radical.

00:09:45.560 Mein Kampf should be in libraries.

00:09:47.240 It's an important piece

00:09:48.160 of historical documentation,

00:09:53.260 I guess.

00:09:53.660 It's an important piece

00:09:54.440 of history.

00:09:55.080 It's an important piece

00:09:56.080 of the development

00:09:56.880 of ideologies

00:09:57.620 to see how ideologies go off.

00:09:59.640 Communist Manifesto,

00:10:00.760 you could say the same thing.

00:10:01.440 The works of Antonio Gramsci,

00:10:02.600 you could say the same thing.

00:10:03.500 Plenty of things

00:10:04.200 that we would all disagree with.

00:10:05.920 But this is trash.

00:10:07.620 It doesn't even rise

00:10:09.400 to the level

00:10:09.960 of good villainous work.

00:10:12.520 And then finally,

00:10:13.060 look, I could be here

00:10:13.660 all day talking about this,

00:10:14.360 but one last piece

00:10:14.960 I want to show you.

00:10:16.160 This one actually

00:10:16.900 has not yet made it

00:10:17.940 to the National Portrait Gallery.

00:10:20.040 And in fact,

00:10:20.840 its appearance

00:10:21.320 at the National Portrait Gallery

00:10:22.320 was canceled by the artist

00:10:23.580 because of fear of reprisal

00:10:26.040 from the Trump administration.

00:10:27.260 It's called

00:10:28.080 Transforming Liberty.

00:10:34.280 Hold on.

00:10:34.980 Before you,

00:10:35.320 can you guess what it is?

00:10:36.900 It's the Statue of Liberty,

00:10:38.760 but as a giant drag queen.

00:10:42.460 A big black drag queen.

00:10:45.580 Transforming Liberty.

00:10:46.960 And it's this big,

00:10:48.380 like, doodle.

00:10:50.860 It's like a big doodle

00:10:51.940 that my four-year-old

00:10:53.060 could have done.

00:10:54.300 Except my four-year-olds

00:10:55.300 would have been

00:10:55.900 more sophisticated.

00:10:57.240 On a fuchsia background,

00:11:01.580 in this kind of ebony figure,

00:11:03.300 with big pink hair,

00:11:06.600 a Lewinsky-esque blue dress,

00:11:09.820 standing unpersuasively

00:11:12.160 on a light purple backdrop.

00:11:16.680 This is by Amy Sherald.

00:11:19.460 Well, it was not going to be

00:11:21.720 at the National Portrait Gallery

00:11:22.680 after Trump's election,

00:11:23.620 and now it never will be.

00:11:24.560 A few reasons.

00:11:30.200 One, the art is bad,

00:11:31.820 which is an important fact.

00:11:34.540 Two, because the message is bad.

00:11:39.560 Three, because it's boring.

00:11:41.840 Because we've seen so much of this.

00:11:44.000 It's not even subversive.

00:11:45.900 I don't think all art

00:11:46.700 should be subversive.

00:11:47.920 That itself is a very modern concept.

00:11:49.780 But it's not even that.

00:11:50.980 It even fails by the standards

00:11:52.940 of modern art.

00:11:54.160 It's boring and ugly and gross,

00:11:57.180 and it's just bad.

00:11:59.640 A reminder that, you know,

00:12:02.440 for a long time in Hollywood,

00:12:04.400 we had something called

00:12:04.960 the Hays Code,

00:12:06.400 and this was Hollywood self-censoring.

00:12:09.780 And eventually,

00:12:12.400 this was done away.

00:12:13.140 It was really Irish Catholics

00:12:14.040 who were pushing this.

00:12:15.060 And then it was eventually

00:12:15.940 done away with

00:12:16.700 in the name of free speech.

00:12:17.920 The Hays Code produced

00:12:20.060 the greatest movies,

00:12:21.920 virtually all of the greatest movies

00:12:23.220 ever made in Hollywood.

00:12:25.980 After the Hays Code,

00:12:27.260 you saw movies go downhill.

00:12:29.520 Before the Hays Code,

00:12:30.520 you had creepy, weirdo,

00:12:32.620 voyeuristic movies like Freaks.

00:12:34.100 You know, there's a famous scene

00:12:35.320 of one of us, one of us,

00:12:37.560 Google gobble, Google gobble.

00:12:38.960 It's like weird, creepy stuff.

00:12:40.600 Then when Hollywood imposed

00:12:41.960 limits on itself,

00:12:42.980 you got good movies.

00:12:44.260 And then afterward,

00:12:45.040 you still got some good movies

00:12:46.200 every so often,

00:12:47.140 but the concentration of them

00:12:49.500 was greatly reduced.

00:12:50.780 My last point

00:12:51.540 on the Smithsonian saga.

00:12:54.820 This is the ultimate vindication

00:12:57.240 of my book,

00:12:58.680 Speechless, Controlling Words,

00:12:59.760 Controlling Minds,

00:13:00.400 available wherever.

00:13:01.340 Thank you for my bill.

00:13:02.600 This is the vindication of this

00:13:04.040 because at the time

00:13:05.500 I published that book,

00:13:06.320 which was now four years ago,

00:13:08.060 the right was saying

00:13:09.580 that we wanted

00:13:10.160 just limitless expression.

00:13:11.660 That was the conservative value.

00:13:13.660 Censorship is of the left,

00:13:14.980 but the right just wants

00:13:16.720 limitless expression.

00:13:17.720 That was not true then.

00:13:18.920 That has never been true.

00:13:19.900 That was a total psyop

00:13:21.260 by the left

00:13:22.340 that the right fell for.

00:13:24.800 Conservatism.

00:13:26.060 I'll speak for myself.

00:13:27.420 I, a conservative,

00:13:29.120 do not stand for

00:13:30.460 limitless expression.

00:13:32.500 I think that's hippie

00:13:33.540 and stupid

00:13:34.260 and incoherent

00:13:35.420 and lib.

00:13:36.580 I think that there's

00:13:37.680 no difference between

00:13:38.700 limitless expression

00:13:40.200 and the ignorant braying

00:13:42.320 of the lower beasts.

00:13:43.980 Okay.

00:13:44.940 I, whatever,

00:13:46.280 whatever the word

00:13:46.920 conservative means,

00:13:47.800 in my view,

00:13:48.640 it does not stand for that.

00:13:50.420 My understanding

00:13:51.580 of what conservative means

00:13:53.020 involves taste

00:13:55.440 and class

00:13:57.020 and order

00:13:58.500 and propriety.

00:14:00.540 That's what we want.

00:14:02.120 Okay.

00:14:02.700 We don't want,

00:14:03.560 we're not anarchists.

00:14:05.300 We're not

00:14:06.260 hyper-individualists.

00:14:08.280 We're not relativists

00:14:09.960 who say we can't know

00:14:10.760 the difference between

00:14:11.500 beautiful and ugly,

00:14:12.280 good and bad.

00:14:12.940 We're not any of those things.

00:14:14.640 That's for the libs.

00:14:15.900 That's for the weirdos.

00:14:17.220 That's for the freaks

00:14:18.200 who refuse to acknowledge reality.

00:14:20.820 We are civilized people.

00:14:23.160 We establish museums.

00:14:25.260 What for?

00:14:26.020 To help cultivate

00:14:27.400 something

00:14:28.420 in people.

00:14:29.520 That's what culture does.

00:14:30.660 It cultivates something.

00:14:32.000 What are we cultivating

00:14:32.900 within people?

00:14:33.720 Are we cultivating

00:14:34.620 perversions

00:14:35.740 and hatred of country

00:14:37.220 and delusions?

00:14:39.240 That's what a lot of our,

00:14:40.760 what passes for pop culture

00:14:42.060 does now.

00:14:43.260 As now what I want to cultivate,

00:14:44.600 I don't want my tax dollars

00:14:45.660 going to that.

00:14:46.360 I don't,

00:14:46.720 I would,

00:14:47.100 I'm ashamed

00:14:47.680 if my country puts that out

00:14:48.960 in the Smithsonian.

00:14:51.100 Taste,

00:14:52.320 class,

00:14:53.620 propriety,

00:14:54.760 order,

00:14:55.300 beauty.

00:14:56.400 These are things

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00:16:35.000 Speaking of culture,

00:16:36.280 this story's a couple days old now,

00:16:37.460 but I have to get to it.

00:16:38.480 There's just been

00:16:39.340 obviously too much going on.

00:16:41.480 Cracker Barrel totally folded.

00:16:43.320 I mentioned when I was

00:16:44.160 at the White House

00:16:44.720 the other day

00:16:45.220 that Cracker Barrel

00:16:46.520 started to fold

00:16:47.400 at Cracker Barrel.

00:16:49.600 They at least responded

00:16:51.340 to the people.

00:16:51.920 They said,

00:16:52.140 look,

00:16:52.420 Uncle Herschel's

00:16:53.800 going to be back,

00:16:54.660 but we hear you.

00:16:55.600 Thank you for your feedback,

00:16:57.160 and we're going to keep

00:16:58.340 listening to you

00:16:58.960 as we move ahead.

00:16:59.600 I said,

00:16:59.840 that's not enough.

00:17:00.940 That's not enough.

00:17:02.500 The whole value

00:17:04.500 of Cracker Barrel

00:17:05.300 is that you don't change.

00:17:06.540 That's your product.

00:17:07.500 It's not your dumplings.

00:17:08.580 It's not even your peg game.

00:17:09.980 What you are selling

00:17:11.340 is not changing.

00:17:13.320 And the fact that

00:17:13.900 the glasses lady

00:17:14.640 who runs your company

00:17:15.520 decided that

00:17:16.760 what Cracker Barrel

00:17:17.620 really needed

00:17:18.120 was a big change

00:17:19.140 shows that she fundamentally

00:17:21.060 misunderstood what the company is.

00:17:22.500 That's why there was

00:17:23.120 a backlash.

00:17:23.680 That's why the president

00:17:24.300 weighed in.

00:17:26.140 Cracker Barrel folded.

00:17:27.640 They said,

00:17:28.140 there will not be

00:17:29.040 a new logo.

00:17:30.220 We thank our guests.

00:17:31.460 After their first

00:17:32.240 non-apology apology,

00:17:33.740 they finally surrendered.

00:17:35.100 Waved the white flag,

00:17:36.080 you know,

00:17:36.220 the flag of the French army.

00:17:37.520 They said,

00:17:38.020 we thank our guests

00:17:38.980 for sharing your voices

00:17:39.920 and love for Cracker Barrel.

00:17:41.140 We said we would listen,

00:17:42.220 and we have.

00:17:42.740 Our new logo is going away,

00:17:44.560 and our old timer

00:17:45.240 will remain.

00:17:46.380 At Cracker Barrel,

00:17:47.120 it's always been

00:17:47.600 and always will be

00:17:48.200 about serving up

00:17:48.800 delicious food,

00:17:49.500 warm welcomes,

00:17:50.160 and the kind of

00:17:51.320 country hospitality

00:17:52.020 that feels like family.

00:17:53.640 As a proud American

00:17:54.400 institution,

00:17:55.040 our 70,000 hardworking

00:17:56.380 employees look forward

00:17:57.340 to welcoming you

00:17:58.060 to our table soon.

00:17:58.800 Okay, good.

00:17:59.420 I think this is a signal

00:18:01.040 with a little bit

00:18:02.200 of face saving

00:18:02.880 that the whole thing

00:18:04.320 is done,

00:18:05.280 and probably the CEO

00:18:06.380 is going to be fired.

00:18:07.220 It certainly should be fired.

00:18:09.120 I think this is a signal.

00:18:10.640 In case it's not,

00:18:12.080 I'm going to say

00:18:12.360 it's not just about

00:18:13.200 how you need

00:18:14.580 to listen to us.

00:18:15.480 It's not just about

00:18:16.140 how interested we all are.

00:18:17.620 Remember that first

00:18:18.200 non-apology?

00:18:19.040 He said,

00:18:19.560 oh,

00:18:19.860 what this has really shown us

00:18:21.020 is people really care

00:18:22.800 about Cracker Barrel,

00:18:23.920 and we really,

00:18:24.680 oh,

00:18:25.060 that's so nice

00:18:25.680 how much you care.

00:18:26.680 So passive-aggressive.

00:18:28.160 Then finally said,

00:18:28.900 all right,

00:18:29.100 all right,

00:18:29.360 all right,

00:18:29.620 we'll give you

00:18:29.900 the old logo back.

00:18:31.220 But it's not just

00:18:31.740 about the old logo.

00:18:33.000 You need to re-redesign

00:18:35.760 the interiors.

00:18:36.960 You bring back

00:18:37.460 the old interiors.

00:18:39.020 I want the wooden tables

00:18:40.200 with the wooden chairs.

00:18:41.220 I want the saws

00:18:41.960 and the banjos

00:18:42.500 on the walls.

00:18:43.740 I want it to be

00:18:44.560 kind of disorganized

00:18:45.760 and take a little while.

00:18:46.760 I want it to be

00:18:47.440 Cracker Barrel,

00:18:48.380 which is an old country store,

00:18:50.180 which was founded in 1969

00:18:52.100 amid a tumult

00:18:52.880 of cultural change

00:18:53.720 in order not to change,

00:18:55.300 in order to preserve something.

00:18:56.560 I don't want it to be Panera.

00:18:58.060 I don't want it to be

00:18:59.120 a hospital cafeteria.

00:19:00.580 I don't want your sterile,

00:19:02.460 clinical,

00:19:03.160 fruitless modernity.

00:19:04.300 I want my old country store

00:19:06.280 because I want my old country

00:19:07.300 is what I want.

00:19:09.100 You get me?

00:19:10.520 I think,

00:19:11.120 I think they got the message.

00:19:13.460 I think they're just going to

00:19:14.900 ditch the entire redesign

00:19:16.120 because it was so

00:19:16.920 catastrophically awful

00:19:18.160 that it's the one thing

00:19:19.500 that got the Republicans

00:19:20.300 and the official Democrat Party

00:19:22.000 to agree on,

00:19:23.340 all saying we think

00:19:24.080 the redesign sucks too.

00:19:25.340 The President of the United States

00:19:26.740 weighed in on it

00:19:27.480 and some evidence

00:19:29.500 that it's going

00:19:30.080 in the right direction.

00:19:31.700 Got to give a hat tip

00:19:32.620 to Robbie Starbuck here.

00:19:34.660 Not only did Cracker Barrel

00:19:36.000 delete the new logo

00:19:36.960 and probably the new interior,

00:19:39.480 they deleted their pride page.

00:19:41.920 They deleted their pride page.

00:19:43.340 Cracker Barrel

00:19:45.760 had

00:19:46.900 until,

00:19:48.660 I don't know,

00:19:48.920 a few days ago,

00:19:50.300 this big,

00:19:50.700 bringing the front porch

00:19:52.240 to pride.

00:19:53.320 This year,

00:19:54.140 Cracker Barrel's focus

00:19:55.380 was to be a part

00:19:56.560 of the pride experience.

00:19:58.580 We had two locations

00:19:59.780 in the pride park

00:20:01.000 and we did pride.

00:20:01.720 It's all this gay stuff.

00:20:03.860 This was very strange

00:20:04.840 for Cracker Barrel

00:20:05.540 because Cracker Barrel

00:20:06.600 historically

00:20:07.600 has not been totally down

00:20:09.140 with the LGBT

00:20:10.440 LMNOP.

00:20:11.520 In 1991,

00:20:14.480 Cracker Barrel

00:20:15.080 had a rule

00:20:15.600 that said that workers

00:20:16.960 who failed to demonstrate

00:20:18.120 quote,

00:20:18.460 normal heterosexual values

00:20:20.260 could be fired

00:20:21.200 just for that.

00:20:22.940 It was the 90s.

00:20:23.940 Well,

00:20:24.100 it wasn't even that long ago.

00:20:25.480 Throughout the 90s,

00:20:26.420 the company was

00:20:27.140 regularly attacked

00:20:28.280 by activists

00:20:29.000 for being anti-gay.

00:20:30.760 In 2002,

00:20:33.160 Cracker Barrel

00:20:34.020 received a score

00:20:35.180 of zero

00:20:35.820 from the first ever

00:20:37.400 Corporate Equality Index.

00:20:39.400 but 19 years later,

00:20:43.200 the Human Rights Campaign,

00:20:44.640 which is this

00:20:45.160 preposterously named

00:20:46.640 LGBT activist organization,

00:20:50.500 they had a score

00:20:51.100 of 80

00:20:51.540 from the HRC.

00:20:53.880 So,

00:20:54.140 they ramped up,

00:20:55.040 they were pretty

00:20:56.140 down with traditional

00:20:58.460 sexual ethics

00:20:59.300 for all of its history.

00:21:00.940 Then,

00:21:01.440 in the last

00:21:01.960 four or five years,

00:21:03.120 I guess,

00:21:03.560 just like the rest

00:21:04.240 of the country,

00:21:04.880 they ramped up

00:21:05.680 the rainbow.

00:21:07.140 Now that's over.

00:21:08.700 Because that pride page

00:21:09.780 has now changed

00:21:10.360 to culture and belonging.

00:21:11.360 Everyone feels

00:21:11.820 at home at Cracker Barrel.

00:21:13.420 Ain't no rainbows.

00:21:14.600 This is a brown

00:21:15.460 and white,

00:21:16.300 black,

00:21:17.140 very muted background.

00:21:19.940 Basically,

00:21:20.380 all the colors

00:21:20.800 that are not

00:21:21.360 on the pride flag.

00:21:23.820 They don't want any part of it.

00:21:24.640 This is good.

00:21:25.300 This is right.

00:21:25.940 This is the thing.

00:21:27.700 We don't want people

00:21:28.900 to be unjust

00:21:29.720 or cruel.

00:21:30.420 No one's suggesting

00:21:31.160 we boot homosexuals

00:21:33.440 out of helicopters

00:21:34.060 or anything like that.

00:21:35.020 Everyone can be cool.

00:21:36.360 Everyone can be normal.

00:21:37.640 But we don't

00:21:38.160 go to Cracker Barrel

00:21:41.460 for weird sex stuff.

00:21:44.500 There's plenty

00:21:45.380 of weird sex stuff

00:21:46.320 elsewhere in the world.

00:21:47.080 We don't want that.

00:21:49.000 We don't.

00:21:49.740 You go to Cracker Barrel

00:21:51.040 because you want

00:21:52.460 your old country.

00:21:54.440 And people these days

00:21:55.440 want their old country.

00:21:56.480 Okay.

00:21:57.460 Speaking of the munchies

00:21:58.500 and subverting tradition,

00:22:01.400 there's been this idea

00:22:02.700 floating that the

00:22:03.460 Trump administration

00:22:04.320 with all of its

00:22:05.880 huge successes

00:22:06.700 on the border,

00:22:07.620 on diplomacy especially,

00:22:09.160 on the economy,

00:22:10.580 overturning all

00:22:12.000 of the economists'

00:22:12.740 expectations.

00:22:13.500 There's been this weird

00:22:14.340 thing that's come out

00:22:15.120 that the president

00:22:16.460 is going to go soft

00:22:17.300 on drugs.

00:22:18.600 He's getting tough

00:22:19.520 on crime,

00:22:20.040 but he might go soft

00:22:20.940 on drugs.

00:22:21.500 I don't know.

00:22:22.000 I think this is being pushed

00:22:23.000 by corners of the White House

00:22:24.340 that haven't gotten

00:22:25.660 the message.

00:22:26.440 This feels very much

00:22:27.660 like one of the few

00:22:29.380 aberrations

00:22:29.960 of the first term.

00:22:31.080 This feels like

00:22:31.620 Kim Kardashian energy.

00:22:32.720 Did Kim Kardashian sneak

00:22:33.860 back into the White House?

00:22:35.360 I hope not.

00:22:36.980 But this feels,

00:22:37.880 I don't know,

00:22:38.300 this feels very liberal

00:22:39.060 to me.

00:22:40.680 I don't think this would

00:22:41.780 be Trump's gut nature,

00:22:43.220 just having observed

00:22:44.100 the man for a long time.

00:22:45.180 I don't know.

00:22:45.700 This is,

00:22:46.580 but reportedly,

00:22:47.900 the rumor mill is saying

00:22:48.940 that the White House

00:22:50.160 might reschedule marijuana,

00:22:52.400 which is to say

00:22:53.900 they're going to

00:22:54.660 weaken their stance

00:22:55.820 on it.

00:22:56.480 They're going to lump it

00:22:57.280 in with a bunch

00:22:57.880 of other drugs

00:22:58.560 that we don't take

00:22:59.720 all that seriously.

00:23:00.500 And the practical effect

00:23:02.520 of that is going

00:23:03.180 to be a decriminalization

00:23:05.160 and an encouragement

00:23:06.320 of marijuana

00:23:06.920 around the country.

00:23:08.100 And I just think

00:23:08.800 this is a bad idea.

00:23:10.820 I think it's a bad idea

00:23:11.920 from the sign of the times.

00:23:13.700 I think this is a bad idea

00:23:15.020 in a partisan way.

00:23:16.380 I think this is playing

00:23:17.320 into the liberals' hands.

00:23:18.720 And I don't think

00:23:19.480 this is going to help.

00:23:20.320 I don't think there's going

00:23:20.900 to be any real benefit

00:23:21.960 to it.

00:23:22.940 You know,

00:23:23.420 the rescheduling

00:23:24.940 of marijuana

00:23:25.720 was a Biden initiative.

00:23:29.660 This is not a conservative initiative.

00:23:32.420 This isn't a Republican.

00:23:33.180 This isn't a MAGA initiative.

00:23:34.220 This is a Biden initiative.

00:23:36.200 And in fact,

00:23:36.940 last year when Biden

00:23:37.760 was really pushing this,

00:23:39.160 it was applauded

00:23:39.820 by the ACLU.

00:23:41.200 Now look,

00:23:41.640 I'm not saying

00:23:42.940 that this rule of thumb

00:23:44.240 is dispositive

00:23:45.900 100% of the time

00:23:46.780 in politics,

00:23:47.520 but it is a good rule of thumb.

00:23:49.360 If all the bad people

00:23:50.860 are on one side

00:23:51.660 of an issue,

00:23:52.500 probably you should be

00:23:53.420 on the other side

00:23:53.960 of the issue.

00:23:54.380 So Biden wanted to do this.

00:23:56.980 It was promoted

00:23:57.680 by the ACLU.

00:23:59.100 It was led by,

00:23:59.980 you know who led

00:24:00.460 the reclassify,

00:24:02.440 reschedule marijuana initiative?

00:24:04.300 It was the transvestite

00:24:06.300 assistant health secretary,

00:24:07.780 Richard Levine.

00:24:10.020 He was leading the charge.

00:24:13.260 What's it being pushed by

00:24:14.600 in the private sector?

00:24:15.860 There's usually some money

00:24:16.600 behind this stuff.

00:24:17.480 It's being pushed by

00:24:18.720 corporate drug dealers.

00:24:20.240 And it's being pushed by them,

00:24:21.800 not for any cause

00:24:22.680 of social justice,

00:24:23.500 but because if they

00:24:24.180 reclassify marijuana,

00:24:25.560 these corporate drug dealers

00:24:26.800 who are the bad guy

00:24:28.180 who have attracted

00:24:29.680 the ire of Maha,

00:24:31.420 of a big part

00:24:32.240 of the Trump coalition

00:24:32.980 of reasonable people,

00:24:33.960 they get a $2 billion tax break.

00:24:36.500 Did we vote in November

00:24:38.380 for a $2 billion tax break

00:24:40.980 for drug dealers?

00:24:41.800 I didn't.

00:24:42.760 Absolutely not.

00:24:44.380 Furthermore,

00:24:45.020 on the scientific front,

00:24:46.480 you know,

00:24:46.620 we sometimes hear,

00:24:47.420 well, marijuana

00:24:47.840 is really actually fine for you.

00:24:49.500 It's much better

00:24:49.960 than alcohol

00:24:50.640 or tobacco

00:24:51.340 or something.

00:24:52.120 You've never seen

00:24:52.860 a violent pothead.

00:24:54.720 No one gets into a fight

00:24:56.560 after smoking pot.

00:24:57.580 They get into a fight

00:24:58.060 after drinking a bottle of whiskey

00:24:58.920 but not smoking pot.

00:24:59.680 But even that isn't really true.

00:25:01.020 There was a study

00:25:01.680 just last year

00:25:02.320 out of the NIH

00:25:02.860 that does show

00:25:04.560 a relationship

00:25:05.160 between marijuana use

00:25:06.580 and violent behavior.

00:25:08.040 And at a practical level,

00:25:09.400 we know that the cities

00:25:10.660 that have decriminalized marijuana

00:25:12.200 have gotten worse.

00:25:13.680 They've gotten dirtier.

00:25:14.560 They've gotten disorderly.

00:25:15.940 They've gotten violent.

00:25:18.640 I'm not saying

00:25:19.520 it's because they're smoking

00:25:20.600 on the jazz cigarette

00:25:22.120 that they go through

00:25:22.800 reefer madness

00:25:23.460 and they start chopping

00:25:24.180 people's heads off.

00:25:25.160 I'm just saying

00:25:25.880 the kinds of people

00:25:27.560 who are really into this stuff

00:25:28.920 tend to be the kinds of people

00:25:30.420 who are disorderly,

00:25:31.240 who make our cities worse

00:25:32.060 and who get violent,

00:25:33.180 who are criminals.

00:25:34.660 At the same time

00:25:35.660 that we got President Trump

00:25:36.440 cleaning up these cities

00:25:37.320 in a magnificent action

00:25:38.840 of one-nation conservatism,

00:25:40.440 one-nation Trumpism,

00:25:41.600 this would be discordant.

00:25:43.100 This would cut against that.

00:25:44.040 But finally,

00:25:45.780 on the political front,

00:25:46.680 my last point

00:25:47.340 on the jazz cigarettes,

00:25:48.660 there was a Gallup poll out

00:25:49.760 last year

00:25:50.280 showed that

00:25:51.820 public support for marijuana,

00:25:53.440 which had been rising,

00:25:55.660 dropped significantly.

00:25:57.020 So this is what I'm talking about

00:25:58.060 when I say

00:25:58.320 the sign of the times.

00:26:00.020 You've got to pay attention

00:26:00.920 to the sign of the times.

00:26:02.420 Two years ago,

00:26:03.880 it looked like

00:26:04.440 we were all going to be trans.

00:26:05.880 Two years ago,

00:26:06.740 it seemed like

00:26:07.120 we were all hurtling

00:26:07.920 toward a kind of

00:26:08.620 futuristic techno-communism.

00:26:10.560 Two years ago,

00:26:11.500 it seemed like

00:26:12.040 everyone wanted

00:26:12.480 to legalize drugs.

00:26:13.460 But this ain't

00:26:15.000 two years ago.

00:26:15.940 Two years ago,

00:26:16.640 it seemed like

00:26:17.020 everyone was going

00:26:17.440 to be an atheist eventually.

00:26:18.780 And then those trend lines

00:26:19.620 turned around.

00:26:20.220 And President Trump

00:26:20.780 was a big part of it

00:26:21.700 turning around.

00:26:23.020 He's not only a symptom

00:26:24.260 of this cultural discontent,

00:26:26.740 he's advancing

00:26:28.220 a new cultural vision.

00:26:29.920 And you're seeing

00:26:30.400 that pay off.

00:26:31.640 10% drop

00:26:32.560 in support for marijuana.

00:26:34.360 The majority of Americans

00:26:35.660 now say marijuana

00:26:36.380 is bad for society

00:26:37.300 and bad for most people

00:26:39.340 who use it.

00:26:39.980 That's a big shift.

00:26:41.880 So why would we be

00:26:43.000 behind the ball?

00:26:43.660 We're ahead of the curve

00:26:44.900 on so many issues.

00:26:46.200 Why would we be behind

00:26:47.120 the curve on this one?

00:26:49.220 And Republicans

00:26:50.080 especially hate it

00:26:50.920 because the poll says

00:26:51.820 that just 5% of Republicans

00:26:53.220 say that marijuana

00:26:53.840 has very positive effects

00:26:55.000 on society.

00:26:56.000 I would say,

00:26:57.620 I get that there are people

00:26:58.700 pushing this

00:26:59.360 in the administration.

00:27:00.500 I get that there are people,

00:27:01.420 especially on social media

00:27:02.140 and definitely

00:27:02.660 in this comment section,

00:27:03.520 who are going to be into

00:27:04.500 promoting pot and everything.

00:27:05.660 I would just say

00:27:06.500 to the White House,

00:27:07.780 I don't think the juice

00:27:09.020 is worth the squeeze here.

00:27:10.040 And even if you floated

00:27:11.320 this idea before,

00:27:12.660 to me,

00:27:13.040 it's kind of like

00:27:13.460 the IVF mandates.

00:27:15.280 President Trump floated

00:27:16.280 a mandate to expand IVF.

00:27:18.860 It was probably

00:27:20.600 not the best considered policy.

00:27:23.500 I don't think it would

00:27:24.180 have had a good effect.

00:27:24.880 And it was just

00:27:25.260 kind of sidelined.

00:27:26.100 It was just kind of,

00:27:26.920 which is fine.

00:27:28.000 It's okay.

00:27:28.800 Politics is a little bit messy.

00:27:30.080 That's how it works.

00:27:30.820 You know,

00:27:31.120 Bismarck says,

00:27:31.720 you don't want to see

00:27:32.120 how the sausage is made.

00:27:33.260 But on this,

00:27:34.100 I would say,

00:27:34.820 I see a lot of downside.

00:27:37.540 I see a huge amount

00:27:38.320 of downside.

00:27:38.680 I see increasing downside

00:27:40.440 because of where

00:27:40.900 the momentum's going.

00:27:41.920 I don't really see the upside.

00:27:44.340 Are you going to make

00:27:44.920 Kim Kardashian happy?

00:27:46.100 Okay.

00:27:46.420 To me,

00:27:46.680 that's not an upside.

00:27:48.300 I'd say,

00:27:48.720 look,

00:27:49.080 move on.

00:27:49.360 There's so much

00:27:50.240 other good stuff

00:27:50.780 to be doing.

00:27:51.540 There's so much

00:27:52.100 other stuff

00:27:52.440 to be focusing on.

00:27:54.460 Move on to that stuff

00:27:55.380 where you're going to get

00:27:55.800 a real benefit

00:27:56.260 for society

00:27:57.020 and politically.

00:27:58.340 Okay.

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00:30:07.520 Okay,

00:30:07.900 speaking of Trump plans,

00:30:09.060 really smart plan.

00:30:10.840 President Trump,

00:30:11.360 it's kind of weird though,

00:30:11.960 it raised a lot of eyebrows.

00:30:13.140 Trump floated yesterday

00:30:14.100 a Republican National Convention

00:30:18.000 before the midterm elections.

00:30:22.020 There's an RNC

00:30:22.860 before a presidential election.

00:30:24.080 We've never seen

00:30:25.120 a big party convention

00:30:26.000 before the midterms.

00:30:27.180 What's this about?

00:30:28.120 Trump says,

00:30:29.140 the GOP is doing really well.

00:30:30.840 Millions of people have joined us

00:30:31.840 in our quest to make America

00:30:32.800 great again.

00:30:34.120 We won every aspect

00:30:35.100 of the presidential election.

00:30:36.140 We're poised to win big

00:30:36.840 in the midterms.

00:30:37.460 We've raised far more money

00:30:38.440 than the Democrats

00:30:39.140 who are destroying the country.

00:30:40.300 I'm paraphrasing a little bit

00:30:41.140 just to get through it.

00:30:42.040 The results are incredible.

00:30:43.100 Record pace in light.

00:30:44.100 I'm thinking of recommending

00:30:44.940 a national convention

00:30:46.100 to the Republican Party

00:30:47.000 just prior to the midterms.

00:30:48.540 It's never been done before.

00:30:49.900 Stay tuned.

00:30:50.800 Donald J. Trump,

00:30:51.600 President of the United States

00:30:52.340 of America.

00:30:55.080 This is a weird idea,

00:30:56.300 but you know,

00:30:56.640 look,

00:30:56.840 Trump shakes things up.

00:30:58.160 That's been his

00:30:59.120 raison d'etre in politics

00:31:00.600 for largely,

00:31:01.740 largely his reason for being.

00:31:03.960 The argument to do this

00:31:05.820 is that conventions

00:31:08.200 give parties a bump,

00:31:09.640 don't they?

00:31:11.120 That's why the national parties

00:31:12.840 always want to have

00:31:13.440 their convention

00:31:14.280 closest to the general election

00:31:16.380 because the parties

00:31:17.440 enjoy a bump

00:31:18.160 after the convention.

00:31:19.380 So if they get a bump

00:31:19.960 after the conventions,

00:31:21.100 why not give them a bump

00:31:22.160 in the midterms?

00:31:22.860 In the midterms,

00:31:24.020 historically,

00:31:24.940 the party that has just

00:31:26.080 won the White House

00:31:26.760 loses a lot of support

00:31:28.500 in the midterm elections.

00:31:29.540 So if they could use

00:31:30.440 a bump anyway,

00:31:31.440 why not do it?

00:31:33.000 Well,

00:31:33.340 it's never been done before.

00:31:35.320 Yeah,

00:31:35.720 okay,

00:31:36.180 why not do it?

00:31:36.720 This is kind of like

00:31:37.220 with Trump.

00:31:37.880 For basically my entire lifetime,

00:31:40.520 the GOP ran openly

00:31:42.640 on cutting entitlement programs.

00:31:46.240 And they did this

00:31:47.220 because the GOP

00:31:47.960 was fiscally responsible.

00:31:50.280 They were budget hawks.

00:31:50.980 There are all plenty

00:31:51.500 of good reasons to do it.

00:31:52.500 But it was always a loser.

00:31:53.860 It gave Democrats

00:31:54.420 such an opportunity

00:31:55.760 to attack the Republicans.

00:31:57.320 And finally,

00:31:57.880 Trump comes in.

00:31:58.340 He says,

00:31:58.680 I'm not going to cut entitlements.

00:32:01.220 The Democrats said,

00:32:02.000 what?

00:32:02.920 He said,

00:32:03.280 yeah,

00:32:03.380 I'm not going to cut them.

00:32:04.140 If anything,

00:32:04.720 maybe I'll expand them.

00:32:05.500 I don't know.

00:32:05.840 I'm all about entitlements.

00:32:06.980 I'm not cutting one penny

00:32:08.020 of your Medicare

00:32:09.160 or Social Security seniors.

00:32:11.400 And Democrats said,

00:32:11.920 no,

00:32:12.500 you can't say that

00:32:13.340 and all the squishes.

00:32:13.980 They said,

00:32:14.180 what?

00:32:14.340 You can't say that.

00:32:15.100 Look,

00:32:15.500 I get the arguments

00:32:16.200 for entitlement reform.

00:32:17.140 Trust me.

00:32:17.420 Trust me.

00:32:17.880 I get the arguments.

00:32:18.760 I recognize

00:32:19.600 that we need fiscal reform.

00:32:20.840 But if you're constantly

00:32:22.300 losing elections,

00:32:23.160 running on something,

00:32:24.700 playing by the established rules,

00:32:26.840 then you got to change the rules.

00:32:29.280 That's one of Trump's observations.

00:32:31.740 The argument against it is

00:32:32.900 a convention

00:32:33.860 would cost

00:32:34.340 a bunch of money.

00:32:35.060 It would cost some time.

00:32:35.880 I just think it might be worth it

00:32:37.180 because one of the reasons

00:32:39.680 that the party

00:32:41.040 in the White House

00:32:41.760 loses the first midterm election

00:32:43.260 is because

00:32:44.820 there's no top of the ticket.

00:32:47.840 The president's not on the ballot

00:32:49.300 and the president,

00:32:50.040 if the president's popular

00:32:51.000 and he just won

00:32:51.560 the presidential election,

00:32:52.780 he's the draw

00:32:53.640 and the candidates down ballot,

00:32:56.120 they're not really the draw,

00:32:57.020 so they don't get the support.

00:32:58.080 So they're less likely to win.

00:33:01.300 Well,

00:33:01.500 if that's the case,

00:33:02.520 then why wouldn't you

00:33:04.140 hold a big convention

00:33:04.960 and effectively put

00:33:07.660 the president back on the ballot?

00:33:08.860 That's what that would do.

00:33:10.840 The midterm elections

00:33:11.640 are often a little decentralized.

00:33:15.240 There's not necessarily

00:33:16.440 a national message.

00:33:17.680 It's more local.

00:33:18.900 There's no big kahuna.

00:33:20.480 There's no top of the ticket.

00:33:22.200 This would centralize it all.

00:33:23.920 This would make these

00:33:25.000 more local elections national.

00:33:28.180 That's where our politics

00:33:29.120 has been heading.

00:33:29.880 That's not necessarily a bad thing.

00:33:31.720 Alexander Hamilton predicted this

00:33:33.220 and encouraged this actually

00:33:34.240 in the Federalist Papers.

00:33:35.520 This idea,

00:33:36.380 this vision goes back

00:33:37.360 that over time,

00:33:39.100 the United States

00:33:39.900 would have less of a focus

00:33:40.820 on the states

00:33:41.340 and more focus on the United.

00:33:42.720 We would gather

00:33:43.240 more of a national identity.

00:33:45.400 And for the GOP right now,

00:33:46.800 which has been

00:33:48.100 in a period of realignment,

00:33:50.960 Trump has redefined the party.

00:33:52.640 And he's done it

00:33:53.500 in a popular way.

00:33:54.240 He's more popular

00:33:54.740 than the other guys.

00:33:56.460 Why wouldn't you have

00:33:57.100 a national convention?

00:33:57.860 I think it's really smart.

00:33:58.640 Okay, speaking of party platforms,

00:34:02.500 Pope Leo, love this.

00:34:03.780 Pope Leo just came out.

00:34:05.480 He was speaking to a group

00:34:06.180 of French politicians.

00:34:07.340 He called on the French politicians

00:34:09.040 to promote the natural law

00:34:11.700 and to oppose

00:34:12.940 anti-Catholic party directives.

00:34:16.180 Now that you might say,

00:34:16.960 okay, the Pope says

00:34:17.620 you should promote

00:34:18.720 Catholic teaching.

00:34:19.720 This is deeper than that.

00:34:21.180 Because in America,

00:34:22.280 since at least Mario Cuomo,

00:34:24.080 father of Andrew Cuomo,

00:34:25.740 former governor of New York,

00:34:26.920 both of them were governors

00:34:27.680 of New York, Mario Cuomo,

00:34:29.460 they wanted him to run

00:34:30.000 for president.

00:34:30.440 He was a big Democrat.

00:34:31.300 His party is basically satanic.

00:34:34.440 But he said that he was a Catholic.

00:34:36.620 So he had this problem.

00:34:39.020 His party promotes

00:34:39.980 the wholesale slaughter

00:34:40.800 of innocent little babies,

00:34:42.380 to name just one issue.

00:34:43.640 And he's supposed to be Catholic.

00:34:44.980 And that's a non-negotiable issue.

00:34:46.120 He has to support life.

00:34:47.280 What does he do?

00:34:48.520 Mario Cuomo resolved this

00:34:49.780 by saying, well, look,

00:34:51.280 in my political life,

00:34:52.960 I'm a liberal Democrat.

00:34:54.940 But in my personal private life,

00:34:56.860 I'm a Catholic.

00:34:59.040 So his answer was literally

00:35:00.960 to split the baby,

00:35:02.300 which kills the integrity

00:35:03.220 of the person.

00:35:04.620 Turned him into a schizophrenic.

00:35:06.180 And what the Pope is saying

00:35:07.160 to not just these French politicians,

00:35:08.900 but to all politicians is,

00:35:10.480 you can't be schizophrenic.

00:35:11.500 He said,

00:35:12.420 there is no division

00:35:13.420 within the personality

00:35:14.220 of a public figure.

00:35:15.080 There is not on one side

00:35:16.280 the politician

00:35:16.920 and on the other the Christian.

00:35:18.080 Rather, there is the politician

00:35:19.120 who under the gaze of God

00:35:20.360 and of his conscience

00:35:21.520 lives out his commitments

00:35:22.520 and his responsibilities

00:35:23.440 in a Christian manner.

00:35:24.360 You are therefore called

00:35:25.660 to strengthen yourselves

00:35:26.600 in faith,

00:35:27.560 to deepen your knowledge

00:35:28.360 of doctrine,

00:35:28.980 particularly of social doctrine,

00:35:31.480 and which Jesus taught

00:35:34.020 to the world,

00:35:34.840 and to put it into practice

00:35:35.960 in the exercise

00:35:36.520 of your responsibilities

00:35:37.300 and in the drafting of laws.

00:35:38.600 You need to write laws

00:35:39.240 based on your Christian

00:35:40.240 understanding of the world.

00:35:41.540 Its foundations

00:35:42.120 are fundamentally,

00:35:43.020 this is key,

00:35:43.820 its foundations

00:35:44.260 are fundamentally in harmony

00:35:45.480 with human nature,

00:35:46.740 with the natural law

00:35:47.620 that all can recognize,

00:35:49.080 even non-Christians,

00:35:50.040 even non-believers.

00:35:50.920 You must therefore

00:35:51.840 not fear to propose it

00:35:53.140 and to defend it

00:35:54.020 with conviction.

00:35:55.060 It is a doctrine of salvation

00:35:56.200 that seeks the good

00:35:56.980 of every human being,

00:35:58.120 the building of societies

00:35:58.920 that are peaceful,

00:35:59.840 harmonious,

00:36:00.320 prosperous,

00:36:00.680 and reconciled.

00:36:01.440 This is,

00:36:02.440 in a phrase,

00:36:03.120 political Catholicism.

00:36:04.580 This calls for integrity.

00:36:07.360 Another word for this

00:36:07.960 is integrity,

00:36:09.340 having an integration

00:36:10.780 of all the parts

00:36:11.540 of your individual self

00:36:12.700 and of the political community.

00:36:14.200 This is not to say

00:36:15.400 that we need to

00:36:16.480 imprison people

00:36:17.360 for not recognizing

00:36:18.540 every feast day

00:36:19.580 of every saint

00:36:20.360 or boldly proclaiming

00:36:22.660 every dogma

00:36:23.560 of the church.

00:36:25.300 What Pope Leo

00:36:25.940 is saying is

00:36:26.620 you need to legislate

00:36:28.540 in accord

00:36:29.100 with Christian teaching,

00:36:30.660 teachings by Christ himself,

00:36:33.060 teachings which

00:36:34.320 can be understood,

00:36:36.300 not necessarily

00:36:37.020 every aspect of revelation,

00:36:38.560 but teachings

00:36:39.100 which because they are

00:36:40.400 in accord with nature,

00:36:41.860 because Christ

00:36:42.720 is the logos,

00:36:43.680 the divine logic

00:36:44.320 of the universe,

00:36:45.040 can be understood

00:36:45.900 by everyone,

00:36:46.920 even non-Christians,

00:36:48.040 even non-believers.

00:36:50.360 This is going to scare

00:36:51.600 some people,

00:36:52.120 the big libs.

00:36:52.660 It's going to scare them

00:36:53.260 because they're going to say

00:36:53.800 this is authoritarianism,

00:36:55.580 this is integralism,

00:36:56.780 this is Catholic,

00:36:59.780 fascism,

00:37:00.500 I don't know,

00:37:00.800 whatever they're going to call it.

00:37:02.980 No, it's just a vision

00:37:04.000 of politics

00:37:04.660 that is in line

00:37:06.120 with Christianity.

00:37:08.140 The alternative

00:37:09.000 is a vision of politics

00:37:11.120 that denies Christianity,

00:37:13.100 that says that

00:37:14.320 we can kill babies,

00:37:15.340 that says that marriage

00:37:16.180 isn't real

00:37:16.720 and we can abolish it,

00:37:17.700 that says that men

00:37:18.380 can be women

00:37:19.060 and that says

00:37:19.480 that's the liberal vision

00:37:20.600 of politics

00:37:21.220 which is not really

00:37:22.520 totally open,

00:37:23.840 which is not neutral,

00:37:24.980 which is not,

00:37:25.300 it's just got its own

00:37:26.300 sets of doctrines

00:37:28.100 and dogmas.

00:37:29.400 The only difference

00:37:30.380 between the doctrines

00:37:31.160 and dogmas of liberalism

00:37:32.200 and the doctrines

00:37:32.840 and dogmas of Christianity

00:37:34.280 is that the doctrines

00:37:35.740 and dogmas of liberalism

00:37:36.600 are false.

00:37:37.760 They tell us

00:37:38.320 false things about men

00:37:39.920 and false things

00:37:40.860 about women

00:37:41.460 and false things

00:37:42.600 about life

00:37:43.640 and false things

00:37:44.700 about our rights

00:37:45.580 and it's just wrong,

00:37:46.680 you know?

00:37:46.980 And so if you're

00:37:49.800 the Mario Cuomo,

00:37:50.940 if you're the Joe Biden,

00:37:51.860 Joe Biden did the same thing

00:37:53.200 and you have to choose

00:37:55.820 on an issue like abortion

00:37:57.060 between your Christianity

00:37:57.980 and your liberalism,

00:37:59.980 don't choose your liberalism.

00:38:01.580 Well, don't think

00:38:02.140 you can be both at least.

00:38:04.700 You can't split the baby.

00:38:05.980 You kill the baby that way.

00:38:07.220 You can't,

00:38:08.320 we don't want

00:38:08.800 a schizophrenic political order.

00:38:11.340 Can't do it.

00:38:12.160 Okay, one point

00:38:12.860 before we get to the mailbag,

00:38:13.900 this also pertaining

00:38:15.280 to Christianity.

00:38:16.980 We haven't talked

00:38:19.300 about the war in Ukraine

00:38:20.260 all that much recently.

00:38:21.200 We haven't talked

00:38:21.520 about the war in Gaza

00:38:22.440 and the Middle East

00:38:23.220 all that much recently.

00:38:24.140 However,

00:38:24.700 after President Trump

00:38:27.720 called for the U.S.

00:38:29.200 taking control of Gaza,

00:38:30.260 building that beautiful

00:38:30.920 Trump casino right there

00:38:32.060 on the Gaza Strip,

00:38:33.960 the State of Israel said,

00:38:34.840 no, no,

00:38:34.960 we're going to take control of it.

00:38:36.020 Again,

00:38:36.460 the State of Israel

00:38:37.040 controlled Gaza

00:38:37.580 for a very long time.

00:38:39.120 In the mid-2000s,

00:38:40.820 they gave control

00:38:41.480 to the Palestinian Authority.

00:38:43.420 The Palestinian Authority

00:38:44.000 lost control,

00:38:44.600 gave it to Hamas,

00:38:45.260 didn't really work out

00:38:46.140 with Hamas having control.

00:38:47.320 So now Israel says,

00:38:47.960 we're going to take it back.

00:38:48.880 Okay,

00:38:49.320 perfectly understandable.

00:38:50.540 However,

00:38:52.160 they're now ordering

00:38:53.260 Gazans

00:38:54.800 to leave

00:38:56.260 Gaza City.

00:38:58.100 And this creates a problem,

00:38:59.540 not just for the Muslims,

00:39:00.680 but for the Christians.

00:39:01.380 So there's a joint statement

00:39:02.340 by the Latin patriarch

00:39:04.540 and the Greek patriarch

00:39:05.700 in Gaza.

00:39:06.920 A few weeks ago,

00:39:07.640 the Israeli government

00:39:08.340 announced its decision

00:39:09.280 to take control

00:39:09.800 of Gaza City.

00:39:10.500 In recent days,

00:39:11.040 the media indicate

00:39:11.740 that the population

00:39:12.380 of Gaza City,

00:39:13.180 where hundreds of thousands

00:39:14.220 of civilians live

00:39:15.000 and where our Christian community

00:39:15.940 is located,

00:39:16.780 is to be evacuated

00:39:17.720 and located to the south of Strip.

00:39:19.740 Reports of heavy bombardment

00:39:21.140 continue to be received.

00:39:22.620 There was more destruction

00:39:23.520 and death in a situation

00:39:24.620 that was already dramatic

00:39:25.420 before this operation.

00:39:26.300 I'm not going to read

00:39:26.740 the whole thing,

00:39:27.220 just the really operative points.

00:39:29.280 Since the outbreak of the war,

00:39:30.360 the Greek Orthodox compound

00:39:31.340 of St. Porphyrios

00:39:32.240 and the Holy Family compound

00:39:33.440 have been a refuge

00:39:34.540 for hundreds of civilians.

00:39:36.140 Among them are elderly people,

00:39:37.460 women, and children.

00:39:38.540 In the Latin compound,

00:39:39.460 we are hosting since many years

00:39:42.040 or for many years.

00:39:42.920 People with disabilities

00:39:43.860 who are under the care

00:39:44.820 of the sisters,

00:39:45.540 missionaries of charity.

00:39:46.740 Like other residents

00:39:47.380 of Gaza City,

00:39:48.120 the refugees living

00:39:48.960 in the facilities

00:39:49.540 will have to decide,

00:39:50.820 according to their conscience,

00:39:51.740 what they will do.

00:39:53.240 Among those who have sought

00:39:54.320 shelter within the walls

00:39:55.380 of the compound,

00:39:56.240 many are weakened

00:39:56.860 and malnourished

00:39:57.540 due to the hardships

00:39:58.300 of the last months.

00:39:59.520 Leaving Gaza

00:40:00.060 and trying to flee to the south

00:40:01.060 would be nothing less

00:40:01.880 than a death sentence.

00:40:03.360 For this reason,

00:40:03.960 the clergy and nuns

00:40:04.620 have decided to remain

00:40:05.480 and continue to care

00:40:06.740 for all those

00:40:07.120 who will be in the compounds.

00:40:07.800 Okay.

00:40:08.960 As you know,

00:40:09.640 I have the least popular view

00:40:11.020 on the Israel-Gaza conflict,

00:40:12.480 Israel-Palestine conflict,

00:40:13.460 because I have nuance to it

00:40:15.760 and I recognize

00:40:16.580 the claims of both sides

00:40:17.780 and I just,

00:40:18.660 I'm simply attempting

00:40:20.060 to pursue justice here

00:40:21.060 and I even recognize

00:40:22.400 the imperial politics

00:40:23.160 that are involved,

00:40:24.460 including great powers

00:40:25.180 like our own country,

00:40:26.300 the United States.

00:40:28.100 I don't think that Hamas

00:40:30.000 should be given a state.

00:40:31.160 I don't march

00:40:31.740 with Greta Thunberg

00:40:32.560 wearing the keffias

00:40:33.660 or anything like that.

00:40:35.060 I'm not even an N-word,

00:40:36.760 you know,

00:40:37.500 a nationalist.

00:40:38.280 I'm not,

00:40:38.540 I'm not a hardcore nationalist.

00:40:39.780 I don't think that we need

00:40:40.480 nation states

00:40:41.480 for every single grouping

00:40:43.980 of people in the world

00:40:44.900 and I recognize

00:40:45.800 imperial politics.

00:40:48.180 I even recognize

00:40:49.260 why Israel

00:40:50.360 sees as a national security matter

00:40:52.160 why they have to take control

00:40:53.040 of the Gaza Strip.

00:40:54.260 I get all of that.

00:40:55.920 You can't displace

00:40:56.800 the Christians.

00:40:57.980 Can't do it.

00:40:58.600 This is the only,

00:40:59.100 oldest Christian population

00:41:00.100 in the world

00:41:00.560 and as the patriarchs,

00:41:04.040 the Greek and Latin patriarchs

00:41:05.020 say here,

00:41:05.340 if they try to move

00:41:05.920 these people

00:41:06.320 that they're caring for,

00:41:07.280 some of the most vulnerable

00:41:07.980 people in Gaza,

00:41:09.620 that will be a death sentence

00:41:10.840 to them

00:41:11.220 and so they're going to stay.

00:41:12.780 Very heroic

00:41:13.480 that they're going to stay

00:41:14.280 during what looks like

00:41:15.780 is going to be

00:41:16.320 an Israeli occupation.

00:41:18.140 Okay.

00:41:19.280 I would just recommend

00:41:20.260 to the Israeli authorities

00:41:21.620 that they should not touch

00:41:23.960 a hair on the head

00:41:24.520 of any of these people,

00:41:25.640 that it would be very bad

00:41:26.420 for them to do that

00:41:27.120 because the government

00:41:28.160 of Israel

00:41:28.520 is losing a lot of support

00:41:29.800 throughout the West

00:41:30.900 and even in the United States,

00:41:32.160 which is the political protector

00:41:33.740 of the state of Israel

00:41:34.580 and they're losing support

00:41:36.100 even among conservatives

00:41:37.020 and Republicans

00:41:38.040 who are inclined

00:41:38.600 to support them

00:41:39.580 and many conservatives

00:41:42.700 see all the sorts of problems

00:41:44.200 of the Islamists

00:41:44.900 who have been fighting

00:41:45.520 for 1400 years

00:41:46.420 and of Hamas

00:41:47.860 and all the rest

00:41:48.400 but when the sisters

00:41:51.060 and the priests

00:41:51.900 and the nuns

00:41:52.700 are staying there

00:41:53.380 to care for the elderly

00:41:54.400 and the little babies

00:41:56.000 and the sick

00:41:56.560 and the disabled,

00:41:58.240 not a hair on their heads

00:41:59.720 should be touched.

00:42:00.380 That's going to make

00:42:01.040 a real political problem

00:42:03.080 for the state of Israel

00:42:04.460 and I don't think

00:42:05.260 they should test it.

00:42:06.380 Okay, finally, finally,

00:42:08.140 we've arrived

00:42:08.640 at our favorite time of the week,

00:42:10.860 the mailbag.

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00:42:16.940 First question.

00:42:18.380 Good morning, Michael.

00:42:19.060 This is Arun.

00:42:19.940 So I have a shower thought

00:42:21.180 that I would like to share with you

00:42:22.440 and I of course mean that figuratively

00:42:23.760 because we Indians

00:42:24.800 don't shower

00:42:25.580 or engage in any kind

00:42:26.820 of personal hygiene.

00:42:28.340 This is about Shiloh Hendricks.

00:42:30.020 Now, obviously,

00:42:32.080 Shiloh has been treated

00:42:33.220 rather unfairly.

00:42:34.500 She was defenestrated

00:42:35.680 from society

00:42:36.380 for saying a bad word

00:42:38.120 and she is now being charged

00:42:41.300 with disorderly conduct

00:42:43.120 and could apparently face

00:42:44.440 up to 90 days in jail.

00:42:46.440 Now, I think back in 2020,

00:42:48.780 I would have advocated

00:42:49.980 vociferously for her,

00:42:51.560 not because what she did

00:42:52.900 was good.

00:42:53.760 It was definitely trashy

00:42:55.840 and ratchet behavior,

00:42:57.680 but ratchet behavior

00:42:58.640 does not merit 90 days

00:43:00.460 in the can.

00:43:02.020 That said,

00:43:03.120 in 2025,

00:43:05.000 I'm less likely

00:43:07.460 to advocate on her behalf

00:43:09.780 because it looks like

00:43:11.840 whereas black supremacy

00:43:13.460 kind of peaked

00:43:14.660 back in 2020,

00:43:16.220 it's now kind of petered out

00:43:18.700 and we've normalized

00:43:20.540 white supremacy,

00:43:21.640 at least on Twitter.

00:43:22.240 I can't believe

00:43:23.780 that I'm saying this,

00:43:25.380 but it appears that,

00:43:27.060 you know,

00:43:27.320 it's a free-for-all

00:43:28.100 on racial supremacy.

00:43:29.720 You've got black identitarians,

00:43:31.300 you've got white identitarians,

00:43:32.460 you've got,

00:43:33.180 you know,

00:43:33.440 the whole gamut.

00:43:34.920 So,

00:43:35.760 as you might say,

00:43:37.920 they're losing me.

00:43:39.620 Do you have any thoughts

00:43:41.540 on what the racial rhetoric

00:43:44.080 on Twitter

00:43:44.880 is doing to the unity of America?

00:43:47.980 Thank you,

00:43:48.440 as always,

00:43:48.800 for your wisdom.

00:43:49.400 Very,

00:43:51.360 very good question,

00:43:52.340 Arun,

00:43:52.680 as always.

00:43:53.320 That's true.

00:43:53.760 When people

00:43:54.200 making racial comments

00:43:56.320 are losing Arun,

00:43:57.460 I mean,

00:43:57.720 you're really,

00:43:58.360 you're really losing,

00:43:59.540 you're losing somebody.

00:44:01.520 Yes.

00:44:04.060 It's not that Twitter

00:44:05.040 is not at all real life.

00:44:06.280 Twitter does have some effect

00:44:07.300 in real life,

00:44:08.040 but it's also a kind of

00:44:09.520 grotesque cabaret show.

00:44:12.580 It's not a really,

00:44:13.760 it's not an accurate

00:44:14.820 reflection of reality,

00:44:15.940 though there is a relation

00:44:16.960 between the cabaret

00:44:18.720 and ordinary life

00:44:20.260 in the streets

00:44:20.840 because people

00:44:22.420 have integrity.

00:44:24.040 So,

00:44:24.360 if you spend all of your time

00:44:25.600 online

00:44:26.040 and you do things

00:44:27.220 that are not conducive

00:44:29.420 to your flourishing

00:44:30.240 and sanctity,

00:44:31.580 whether it be

00:44:32.300 engaging in

00:44:33.480 cruelty

00:44:35.080 or whether it be

00:44:35.920 looking at pornography

00:44:36.680 or whether it be

00:44:37.360 engaging in fraud

00:44:38.260 or deception,

00:44:39.040 that's going to carry,

00:44:40.100 have effects

00:44:40.600 in the street,

00:44:41.640 too.

00:44:41.820 It's not a one-to-one,

00:44:42.860 but there is a relation

00:44:43.940 between those things.

00:44:45.640 And what it comes down to

00:44:46.840 is a reckoning

00:44:47.380 with the role

00:44:48.320 of ethnos,

00:44:49.100 you know,

00:44:49.280 with the role

00:44:50.200 of race and ethnicity

00:44:52.080 in human life

00:44:53.700 because for the last

00:44:55.060 three decades

00:44:55.620 we've been told

00:44:56.180 that race and ethnicity

00:44:57.460 mean absolutely nothing,

00:44:59.640 which is ridiculous.

00:45:01.000 You know,

00:45:01.180 it's a real fact of life.

00:45:05.100 It's a real fact

00:45:05.660 of human nature.

00:45:07.020 However,

00:45:08.440 the opposite error

00:45:09.860 would be an error,

00:45:11.180 which is to say

00:45:11.800 that ethnicity

00:45:12.300 is everything

00:45:13.020 or it's dispositive

00:45:14.140 in human life.

00:45:15.000 That's kind of crazy,

00:45:15.980 too.

00:45:16.580 Aristotle reminds us

00:45:17.660 that virtue

00:45:18.580 is the mean

00:45:19.160 between two extremes.

00:45:20.680 And so you can have

00:45:22.020 a healthy love

00:45:23.160 of your own kind,

00:45:24.440 I guess,

00:45:25.700 but you should not

00:45:27.200 therefore cultivate

00:45:29.380 a hatred

00:45:29.940 or an animus

00:45:30.800 toward other people.

00:45:33.240 I guess the way

00:45:33.780 I think about this

00:45:34.600 is if Joe DiMaggio

00:45:36.060 hits a home run,

00:45:38.420 the Italians,

00:45:39.280 the Italian-Americans

00:45:40.080 can take a special

00:45:41.320 happiness in that.

00:45:42.280 there's nothing

00:45:43.680 all that wrong

00:45:44.920 with that.

00:45:46.020 You know,

00:45:46.200 it's kind of like

00:45:47.140 even an extension

00:45:48.100 of just your family,

00:45:49.680 you know,

00:45:49.840 the people who look

00:45:50.760 like you

00:45:51.100 and maybe behave

00:45:52.120 like you

00:45:52.620 for reasons

00:45:53.900 of history

00:45:54.760 and tradition,

00:45:55.380 culture,

00:45:55.880 and who knows,

00:45:56.340 and biology.

00:45:57.800 But you have to

00:46:00.360 keep that within

00:46:01.200 boundaries.

00:46:01.860 You know,

00:46:01.980 you have to keep

00:46:02.460 that within its

00:46:02.960 proper place

00:46:03.580 and recognize

00:46:04.160 that at a fundamental

00:46:05.300 level,

00:46:05.820 we're all made

00:46:06.260 in the image

00:46:06.600 and likeness of God

00:46:07.320 and there's human

00:46:07.820 solidarity.

00:46:08.680 So I agree,

00:46:09.720 there has to be

00:46:10.420 a prudential balance

00:46:11.180 here.

00:46:11.320 As for Shiloh Hendricks,

00:46:12.440 you know,

00:46:12.700 I don't know,

00:46:13.540 reasonable minds

00:46:15.280 can debate

00:46:15.800 how far the pendulum

00:46:16.840 has swung back.

00:46:17.720 But that's how

00:46:18.240 you have to think

00:46:18.720 about ethnicity.

00:46:19.880 Next question.

00:46:21.020 Hey, Michael,

00:46:21.620 great show.

00:46:22.240 Always prefer your

00:46:23.160 show over many

00:46:24.160 other options.

00:46:25.300 Anyways,

00:46:26.360 my local priest

00:46:27.800 was just arrested

00:46:29.860 for,

00:46:31.400 I don't know,

00:46:32.880 sexual battery

00:46:33.680 of a minor,

00:46:35.240 16,

00:46:35.800 17-year-old,

00:46:36.700 something like that.

00:46:37.680 We're going to have

00:46:38.000 details later,

00:46:38.780 supposedly.

00:46:39.200 Obviously,

00:46:40.980 it hurts the family.

00:46:42.100 It hurts to see this.

00:46:44.260 I don't really know

00:46:45.500 how to explain this

00:46:46.600 or have this conversation

00:46:47.920 with my wife.

00:46:49.220 She is

00:46:50.220 interested in Catholicism.

00:46:54.700 She's making a lot

00:46:55.380 of progress

00:46:55.840 and it's,

00:46:57.460 you know,

00:46:57.960 really good for us.

00:46:59.680 But,

00:47:00.360 you know,

00:47:01.040 it hurts a lot.

00:47:02.000 Especially,

00:47:02.500 this is the man

00:47:03.240 who baptized my son.

00:47:04.300 You know,

00:47:05.540 what's your thoughts

00:47:07.220 or which way

00:47:09.120 should I go with this?

00:47:10.780 Obviously,

00:47:11.280 I am still praying.

00:47:13.140 Thank you very much

00:47:14.100 for your insight.

00:47:15.520 Sorry to hear that.

00:47:16.380 That's awful.

00:47:16.860 I mean,

00:47:17.000 this is scandal.

00:47:17.920 This is the Millstoneverse,

00:47:19.640 you know,

00:47:20.120 because it's scandalizing,

00:47:21.700 not just kids,

00:47:22.440 but scandalizing even adults,

00:47:23.740 even people who might be

00:47:24.780 swimming the Tiber

00:47:25.360 like your wife.

00:47:26.640 So,

00:47:27.160 it's really awful.

00:47:28.240 I mean,

00:47:28.460 this is a serious scandal.

00:47:30.620 Now,

00:47:31.740 you know,

00:47:34.360 if you try to look at it

00:47:35.580 from a more disinterested perspective,

00:47:38.440 you would say,

00:47:39.400 well,

00:47:39.540 okay,

00:47:40.420 what was my premise here?

00:47:42.140 Is my premise that

00:47:43.360 priests

00:47:44.460 are the sort of people

00:47:45.280 who never do bad things?

00:47:47.160 Is my premise

00:47:48.200 that Christianity

00:47:49.300 is the sort of

00:47:50.660 religion

00:47:51.960 that

00:47:52.660 utterly prevents

00:47:54.840 sin in this world?

00:47:56.900 No.

00:47:57.940 So,

00:47:58.140 okay,

00:47:58.260 those would be

00:47:58.620 false premises.

00:47:59.940 Is the issue

00:48:01.360 that we're saying

00:48:02.120 that the Catholic Church

00:48:03.440 commits sin

00:48:04.500 or these particular sins

00:48:05.760 at higher rates

00:48:07.020 than any other institution?

00:48:08.320 No,

00:48:08.580 that isn't true.

00:48:09.360 It isn't true

00:48:09.860 if you look at

00:48:10.500 Protestantism

00:48:11.740 or Judaism

00:48:12.600 or public schools,

00:48:13.880 public schools

00:48:14.320 which vastly outstrip

00:48:16.040 any religious tradition

00:48:17.900 in these sorts of sins.

00:48:19.680 So,

00:48:20.000 that's the

00:48:20.640 disinterested way

00:48:21.640 in looking at it.

00:48:23.220 But it's very difficult

00:48:24.280 to dissociate yourself

00:48:25.180 from these issues

00:48:26.460 when you see

00:48:26.940 a sin like this.

00:48:28.920 So,

00:48:29.180 then I guess

00:48:29.660 you have to ask yourself

00:48:30.720 the question

00:48:32.420 that St. Peter asks,

00:48:34.080 which is,

00:48:34.520 well,

00:48:34.700 is it true?

00:48:36.840 Is what the church

00:48:38.500 teaches true?

00:48:39.540 Are you persuaded

00:48:40.200 of this?

00:48:41.540 And then,

00:48:42.240 Lord,

00:48:42.440 to whom shall we go?

00:48:43.600 If it's true,

00:48:45.480 then where else

00:48:46.640 do you turn?

00:48:47.920 You know,

00:48:48.080 even you mentioned

00:48:48.640 that this priest

00:48:49.180 baptized your kid.

00:48:50.060 this issue

00:48:52.000 was settled

00:48:52.320 back in antiquity.

00:48:53.880 The heresy

00:48:54.560 was called

00:48:55.020 Donatism,

00:48:56.040 which said

00:48:56.720 that the efficacy

00:48:57.720 of a sacrament

00:48:58.420 of baptism

00:48:59.480 in particular

00:49:00.040 depends upon

00:49:01.020 the sanctity

00:49:01.700 of the priest.

00:49:03.040 And that was condemned.

00:49:05.120 What was that?

00:49:05.620 The Council of

00:49:06.460 Chalcedon?

00:49:08.920 Or I forget

00:49:09.300 which council.

00:49:09.840 But anyway,

00:49:10.160 one of the councils

00:49:10.680 condemned

00:49:12.480 the Donatist heresy

00:49:13.600 and said,

00:49:14.000 no, no, no,

00:49:14.220 the sacrament

00:49:14.640 is God working.

00:49:16.660 It doesn't depend

00:49:17.280 on the sanctity.

00:49:17.900 Thank God.

00:49:18.660 Thank God sacraments

00:49:19.640 don't depend

00:49:20.040 on the sanctity

00:49:20.540 of the priest

00:49:21.000 or on the sanctity

00:49:22.120 of any human being.

00:49:23.480 So that's what I would say.

00:49:24.880 I mean,

00:49:25.140 but it can,

00:49:26.800 it's a scandal.

00:49:27.560 You have to work yourself

00:49:28.320 through the scandal.

00:49:29.200 The thing about scandals

00:49:30.220 and heresies

00:49:30.840 and all the rest

00:49:31.360 is in a weird way,

00:49:33.200 in an anti-fragile way,

00:49:34.600 they actually strengthen

00:49:35.380 the faith over time

00:49:36.240 because they clarify

00:49:37.160 what we believe

00:49:37.860 and the truth of the faith.

00:49:39.320 But I would lean into,

00:49:40.380 I wouldn't hide it

00:49:41.000 from your wife.

00:49:41.560 You know,

00:49:41.680 I'd say,

00:49:42.000 yes,

00:49:42.940 this is human nature

00:49:43.780 and all its

00:49:44.320 wickedness

00:49:44.920 and all of its

00:49:45.380 ugliness

00:49:45.820 and all of its

00:49:46.760 absolute depravity.

00:49:48.660 And also,

00:49:50.080 here's the way

00:49:51.220 to salvation.

00:49:51.920 Okay,

00:49:52.260 they want me to go

00:49:52.920 to the Membrum Segmentum now,

00:49:54.100 but I don't care.

00:49:54.580 I want to keep going.

00:49:55.320 Next mailbag.

00:49:57.100 Hey, Michael.

00:49:57.920 As a Protestant,

00:49:58.760 I don't feel like

00:49:59.440 I have a good grasp

00:50:00.300 on the concept

00:50:01.160 of purgatory.

00:50:02.600 I imagine the version

00:50:03.700 of it that everyone

00:50:04.300 who isn't Catholic

00:50:05.040 thinks of as a

00:50:05.940 place to go

00:50:06.780 for a second chance

00:50:07.620 before you go to heaven

00:50:08.380 or hell

00:50:08.740 is not accurate.

00:50:10.040 How would you describe

00:50:10.740 what purgatory truly is

00:50:11.980 and is the evidence

00:50:13.000 for it

00:50:13.520 in Scripture

00:50:14.380 relegated to the books

00:50:15.380 of the Bible

00:50:15.840 that Protestants

00:50:16.800 do not regard

00:50:17.420 as canon?

00:50:18.200 Thanks.

00:50:19.120 Oh, no.

00:50:19.540 Really good question.

00:50:20.680 And no.

00:50:22.540 The deuterocanonical books,

00:50:24.440 which a lot of Protestants

00:50:25.380 don't recognize,

00:50:26.900 do allude to purgatory.

00:50:28.540 But you can get

00:50:29.200 to evidence of purgatory,

00:50:30.800 clear scriptural evidence

00:50:31.620 of purgatory

00:50:32.180 right in the Gospels

00:50:33.160 and in the Epistles.

00:50:33.820 Matthew 12, 32

00:50:35.920 comes to mind

00:50:36.700 where St. Matthew

00:50:39.560 writes

00:50:39.880 in the words

00:50:41.320 of our Lord,

00:50:42.440 whoever says word

00:50:43.480 against the Son of Man

00:50:44.360 will be forgiven,

00:50:45.120 but whoever blasphemes

00:50:45.920 the Holy Spirit

00:50:46.440 will not be forgiven

00:50:47.200 in this age

00:50:48.000 or in the age

00:50:49.060 to come.

00:50:50.000 The implication meaning

00:50:51.120 that one can

00:50:53.140 in principle

00:50:53.620 be forgiven

00:50:54.200 for sins

00:50:54.860 in the age to come.

00:50:56.500 Otherwise,

00:50:56.920 our Lord would not say

00:50:57.780 you wouldn't be forgiven

00:50:59.540 in this age

00:51:00.060 or in the age to come.

00:51:01.820 Also in St. Matthew chapter 5,

00:51:04.440 you hear the injunction

00:51:07.700 to make amends

00:51:09.940 with people now

00:51:10.780 because of the story

00:51:12.160 of the debtor.

00:51:12.920 The debtor is in prison

00:51:13.900 and he won't get out

00:51:14.580 until he's paid

00:51:15.220 the last penny.

00:51:16.300 That can't be

00:51:17.080 a figure of hell

00:51:18.080 because in hell

00:51:18.740 you can't get out.

00:51:19.680 You're damned for eternity.

00:51:21.000 There ain't no getting out

00:51:22.040 of hell.

00:51:23.020 But the debtor's prison

00:51:24.380 is referring to

00:51:28.280 a period of purgation.

00:51:30.460 The clearest

00:51:31.100 scriptural example

00:51:31.820 comes from St. Paul

00:51:32.580 1 Corinthians chapter 3

00:51:34.120 verse 11

00:51:34.960 11 through 15.

00:51:37.800 I actually have

00:51:38.520 that one written here.

00:51:39.940 For no other foundation

00:51:41.000 can anyone lay

00:51:42.340 than that which is laid

00:51:43.620 which is Jesus Christ.

00:51:45.460 Now if anyone

00:51:45.860 builds on the foundation

00:51:46.660 with gold, silver,

00:51:47.380 precious stones,

00:51:47.900 wood, hay, stubble

00:51:48.560 each man's work

00:51:49.200 will become manifest

00:51:49.920 for the day

00:51:50.340 we'll disclose it

00:51:51.020 because it will be

00:51:52.020 revealed with fire

00:51:53.020 and the fire

00:51:53.700 will test

00:51:54.440 what sort of work

00:51:55.240 each one has done.

00:51:56.680 If the work

00:51:57.320 which any man

00:51:58.000 has built

00:51:58.520 on the foundation

00:51:59.160 survives

00:51:59.820 he will receive

00:52:00.940 a reward.

00:52:01.440 If any man's work

00:52:02.740 is burned up

00:52:03.700 he will suffer loss

00:52:05.260 though he himself

00:52:06.720 will be saved

00:52:07.780 but only as

00:52:09.340 through fire.

00:52:10.600 So this is

00:52:11.540 a really clear image

00:52:12.980 of purgatory.

00:52:14.100 This kind of fire

00:52:15.520 that will burn up

00:52:17.140 your iniquity

00:52:18.920 but you yourself

00:52:20.360 will still be saved.

00:52:21.280 This is not the fire

00:52:21.960 of hell

00:52:22.220 in which one

00:52:23.880 is damned

00:52:24.220 for eternity.

00:52:26.060 And then

00:52:26.460 two bits

00:52:29.340 also from the

00:52:30.540 Johannine epistles

00:52:31.260 1 John

00:52:32.000 says all unrighteousness

00:52:33.680 is sin

00:52:34.120 but there is some sin

00:52:35.000 which is not mortal.

00:52:36.700 So this is the

00:52:37.520 scriptural distinction

00:52:38.380 between mortal sin

00:52:39.260 and venial sin.

00:52:39.960 Venial sin

00:52:40.400 which weakens

00:52:41.280 the relationship

00:52:41.740 of grace

00:52:42.160 mortal sin

00:52:42.840 which severs

00:52:43.240 the relationship

00:52:43.800 of grace

00:52:44.380 and this ties in

00:52:45.860 with a verse

00:52:46.400 from Revelation

00:52:47.020 book of the apocalypse

00:52:47.840 chapter 21

00:52:49.120 which says

00:52:50.380 that nothing unclean

00:52:51.420 enters into heaven.

00:52:52.240 So all unrighteousness

00:52:54.160 is sin

00:52:54.600 some sin

00:52:55.480 is not mortal

00:52:56.200 that means

00:52:56.620 there is venial sin

00:52:57.780 which is unrighteous

00:52:58.720 which is unclean

00:52:59.720 which is impure

00:53:00.800 which then seems

00:53:03.600 to butt up

00:53:04.960 against the book

00:53:05.640 of the apocalypse

00:53:06.040 which says

00:53:06.360 nothing unclean

00:53:06.960 enters into heaven

00:53:07.660 except St. Paul

00:53:08.560 explains it

00:53:09.040 and our Lord

00:53:09.500 explains it too

00:53:10.260 that there is

00:53:12.600 a forgiveness

00:53:13.040 of sin

00:53:13.440 in the age of come

00:53:14.060 but only as

00:53:14.760 through a kind

00:53:15.600 of fire

00:53:16.200 though a man

00:53:17.140 might be saved.

00:53:17.800 So that's it.

00:53:18.700 When you're in purgatory

00:53:19.640 it's not like

00:53:20.500 will I go to hell

00:53:21.080 will I go to heaven?

00:53:21.660 You're going to heaven

00:53:22.780 but there's this

00:53:23.340 period of purgation

00:53:24.100 which is explained

00:53:25.260 by the apostle

00:53:26.000 explained by

00:53:26.700 the book of Revelation

00:53:28.840 explained by St. John

00:53:30.120 and explained by

00:53:30.640 our Lord himself.

00:53:31.280 Okay.

00:53:32.320 There's more to get to

00:53:33.000 but it's fake headline Friday.

00:53:33.980 The rest of the show

00:53:34.400 continues now.

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