The Michael Knowles Show - September 05, 2025


Ep. 1808 - Of Course, We Should Disarm Transvestites


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

170.76735

Word Count

8,102

Sentence Count

607

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

48


Summary

The Trump administration is threatening to disarm the transgenders, and somehow, the right-wingers are upset about it. Is it the slippery slope? Or is it the other way around? And if so, which is worse?


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 The Trump administration is threatening to disarm the transgenders,
00:00:35.940 and somehow it is the right-wingers who are upset about it.
00:00:41.320 I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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00:02:12.760 President Trump is threatening to disarm,
00:02:15.860 to take guns away from,
00:02:17.640 the trans-identifying people.
00:02:19.580 And it is...
00:02:22.580 Everybody is a little bit upset with him,
00:02:24.420 but it is especially the right-wingers
00:02:26.640 who are upset about this.
00:02:28.540 This is one of those weird issues
00:02:30.300 that crosses the aisle
00:02:33.680 because the right obviously is skeptical
00:02:37.040 of the entire transgender ideology.
00:02:41.280 So anything that diminishes the transgender ideology,
00:02:43.620 the right is for,
00:02:44.440 but the right loves guns.
00:02:45.560 And the left loves weird sex stuff,
00:02:48.780 is totally in favor of any weird sex stuff
00:02:51.060 you can possibly think of,
00:02:52.740 any way you can possibly contort your body
00:02:55.440 to do something unnatural and deviant.
00:02:57.640 Therefore, except they hate guns.
00:03:00.200 So now we're kind of caught in the middle.
00:03:03.480 Seems to me pretty obvious
00:03:05.520 that a guy who thinks that he's a woman,
00:03:08.820 a guy whose grasp of reality is so tenuous,
00:03:12.540 so loose that he doesn't know what his sex is,
00:03:16.600 probably should not have a firearm.
00:03:19.740 Now, the rejoinder to this,
00:03:21.660 and I think it is a legitimate rejoinder,
00:03:23.520 is this is the slippery slope.
00:03:26.860 The rejoinder is,
00:03:28.300 if you support your Second Amendment right,
00:03:30.000 which the libs have been going after forever,
00:03:32.140 then you need to oppose any and all regulations
00:03:35.280 that could in any way possibly take a single gun
00:03:38.160 out of the hand of any American.
00:03:39.740 Because it's always a farce,
00:03:41.260 it's always a ruse,
00:03:42.240 it's a way to take the guns away
00:03:44.060 from the normal people.
00:03:45.040 I get it.
00:03:46.140 Our ideological opponents are underhanded.
00:03:48.980 There's no question about that.
00:03:50.820 However, just think about this in principle.
00:03:53.500 When people say,
00:03:55.320 look, shall not be infringed,
00:03:56.580 as clear as day,
00:03:57.400 you can't take the guns away.
00:03:58.220 We already agree, in principle,
00:04:01.700 that there are people
00:04:04.520 who are not sufficiently in command
00:04:06.140 of their reason to have a gun.
00:04:08.200 Should a baby be allowed to go buy a gun?
00:04:11.340 Should a baby, should a baby,
00:04:12.840 listen, I'm a lifetime member of the NRA,
00:04:14.980 I have guns, I,
00:04:17.640 should a baby be allowed to go buy a gun?
00:04:20.060 No.
00:04:21.460 Should a severely retarded person
00:04:23.920 be allowed to go buy a gun?
00:04:26.740 Probably not.
00:04:27.460 Should your grandfather,
00:04:30.540 with advanced dementia,
00:04:32.240 who doesn't know what day it is,
00:04:33.820 be able to go buy a gun?
00:04:35.520 Would that be good for him?
00:04:37.220 Would that do,
00:04:37.840 no, no.
00:04:39.340 I think we would all admit,
00:04:40.480 no.
00:04:42.580 Transgenderism is a severe mental illness.
00:04:45.340 It is,
00:04:45.940 it's not,
00:04:47.040 as some of the slippery slope warriors
00:04:49.360 are going to say,
00:04:49.960 it's not akin to
00:04:51.460 a soldier coming back from war
00:04:53.800 with PTSD.
00:04:55.180 That's bad enough in itself.
00:04:57.460 But PTSD is not the same
00:04:59.540 as not knowing what sex you are.
00:05:03.000 Okay,
00:05:03.340 some ADHD,
00:05:06.740 anxiety,
00:05:08.940 even,
00:05:09.480 even a touch of depression,
00:05:11.580 things that,
00:05:12.160 that are psychological diagnoses,
00:05:14.440 is different in kind
00:05:16.480 from the severe mental illness
00:05:19.840 that,
00:05:21.120 that says that your perception
00:05:22.580 is so screwed up,
00:05:23.640 you don't know what your sex is.
00:05:25.580 that is real deep
00:05:28.580 in the heart of man.
00:05:30.460 And,
00:05:31.040 I don't think anyone on the right
00:05:33.060 would disagree with that.
00:05:34.060 I hope not.
00:05:35.440 That is,
00:05:36.180 like,
00:05:36.620 you know,
00:05:37.000 not every horror movie ever,
00:05:38.640 but,
00:05:38.880 like,
00:05:39.040 all these serial killers,
00:05:40.200 you know,
00:05:40.460 Buffalo Bill,
00:05:41.380 Psycho,
00:05:41.840 all this.
00:05:42.220 What is the,
00:05:42.660 what is the emblematic
00:05:44.920 mental illness
00:05:45.780 that,
00:05:46.680 that,
00:05:47.160 those movies are grounded in?
00:05:49.060 That those movies,
00:05:49.740 which are based on real cases,
00:05:50.720 which are based on real people,
00:05:51.560 are grounded in?
00:05:52.080 The trans identity.
00:05:55.720 The fact that you don't know
00:05:57.220 even what sex you are.
00:05:58.240 There are all these other issues
00:05:59.560 that,
00:05:59.840 that attend to that.
00:06:01.940 It's,
00:06:02.440 you're not going to meet someone
00:06:04.460 who thinks he's the opposite sex,
00:06:06.120 who,
00:06:06.380 who doesn't have a cascade
00:06:07.700 of other mental,
00:06:08.820 mental illnesses
00:06:09.680 and,
00:06:10.700 psychological problems
00:06:12.340 that go along with that.
00:06:13.460 Okay.
00:06:14.160 So,
00:06:14.880 that's just the,
00:06:15.720 the normative argument.
00:06:16.800 Should we?
00:06:17.640 Should they?
00:06:18.480 Should we do this?
00:06:19.120 Should we do that?
00:06:20.280 The,
00:06:20.860 even stronger argument,
00:06:23.100 I think,
00:06:23.520 is,
00:06:24.660 President Trump's DOJ
00:06:26.180 could,
00:06:27.840 today,
00:06:30.300 tell transvestites,
00:06:31.760 or,
00:06:32.160 not even,
00:06:32.440 not even transvestites,
00:06:33.280 not even cross-dressers
00:06:34.100 and cabaret singers,
00:06:34.980 and we're talking like,
00:06:35.780 guys who think they're
00:06:36.460 the opposite sex.
00:06:37.460 The DOJ,
00:06:38.200 today,
00:06:39.020 could say,
00:06:39.660 you can't own guns,
00:06:41.020 and they would not have to pass
00:06:42.640 a single additional law.
00:06:44.800 Because the federal law,
00:06:46.640 already,
00:06:47.520 today,
00:06:47.860 says that you can be
00:06:50.240 deprived of your
00:06:51.720 Second Amendment rights
00:06:52.500 or your Second Amendment rights
00:06:53.860 can be circumscribed
00:06:54.660 if you are mentally
00:06:56.460 defective.
00:06:59.200 People who think
00:07:00.080 they're the opposite sex
00:07:01.120 are mentally defective.
00:07:03.620 Thinking you're the opposite sex
00:07:04.920 is prima facie evidence
00:07:06.240 that you are mentally defective
00:07:07.800 and severely so.
00:07:09.560 I don't mean to be too harsh
00:07:10.860 to people who are a little bit weird
00:07:12.120 or anything,
00:07:12.700 but clarity is charity
00:07:13.840 and that's the truth.
00:07:14.700 18 U.S. Code
00:07:16.420 Section 922
00:07:17.680 G4
00:07:19.460 says
00:07:20.420 that
00:07:22.180 the government
00:07:25.040 can prohibit
00:07:25.880 possession of firearms
00:07:26.700 for anyone
00:07:27.260 who has been adjudicated
00:07:29.120 as a mental defective
00:07:30.200 or who has been committed
00:07:31.000 to a mental institution.
00:07:32.340 That's or,
00:07:32.900 by the way,
00:07:33.200 because sometimes
00:07:33.700 libertarians will respond
00:07:35.000 and say,
00:07:35.340 well,
00:07:35.640 if they're so mentally defective,
00:07:37.160 they should just be committed
00:07:37.960 to an institution.
00:07:38.900 First of all,
00:07:39.300 no one really believes that
00:07:40.340 if you have a little brother
00:07:42.580 who is severely mentally retarded,
00:07:44.700 we don't think that
00:07:45.360 it should be a matter of law
00:07:46.280 that you send him
00:07:46.860 to an insane asylum.
00:07:48.180 Granny has a touch of dementia.
00:07:50.000 You don't think that
00:07:51.460 it should be a matter
00:07:52.520 of federal law
00:07:53.040 that you have to ship her off
00:07:53.900 to some institution.
00:07:54.980 It's okay to have people
00:07:56.060 in society and care for them,
00:07:57.660 but you have to circumscribe
00:08:00.240 their rights
00:08:00.820 in as much as they are not
00:08:02.220 capable of exercising
00:08:03.640 those rights,
00:08:04.380 in as much as their intellect
00:08:06.180 and will are damaged
00:08:07.900 or defective.
00:08:08.740 This would not require
00:08:10.740 passing any new gun control laws.
00:08:13.240 I'm totally opposed
00:08:14.300 to all new gun control laws
00:08:15.960 and have been,
00:08:18.500 am now,
00:08:19.160 remain so into the future.
00:08:20.900 What this would do,
00:08:22.180 what Trump is doing,
00:08:23.420 is simply acknowledging reality.
00:08:26.660 That's what this is about.
00:08:28.040 This isn't about changing
00:08:28.960 the gun laws in any way.
00:08:31.320 This is about acknowledging reality,
00:08:33.160 which is why I'm so gung-ho for it,
00:08:35.180 because it would be establishing
00:08:36.320 as a matter of federal law
00:08:37.720 that transgenderism
00:08:40.960 is a mental illness,
00:08:42.100 a severe mental illness,
00:08:43.140 and if you have it,
00:08:44.000 you're mentally defective.
00:08:45.860 And a lot of our problems
00:08:47.520 in recent years
00:08:48.320 have stemmed from
00:08:49.680 or been associated with
00:08:50.740 our refusal to acknowledge
00:08:51.820 that fact.
00:08:53.780 But Michael,
00:08:54.840 if we do this now,
00:08:56.280 if we acknowledge
00:08:57.220 transgenderism
00:08:58.120 as a mental illness,
00:08:59.380 why, by golly,
00:09:00.260 when Democrats come into power,
00:09:01.600 they might acknowledge,
00:09:02.600 I don't know,
00:09:03.820 Christianity
00:09:04.180 as a mental illness.
00:09:05.400 Take your talking points
00:09:09.160 back to 2012.
00:09:10.360 I'm sick of them.
00:09:11.520 I am not afraid
00:09:12.260 of exercising political power
00:09:14.140 for the good today
00:09:16.020 when the people
00:09:16.800 have given us power
00:09:17.620 because of some hypothetical evil
00:09:19.920 that the Democrats
00:09:20.640 might do tomorrow
00:09:21.480 that they almost certainly
00:09:22.720 will do
00:09:23.220 whether we act today or not.
00:09:26.640 Aren't we done with this?
00:09:28.520 This notion that we can
00:09:29.860 never exercise power
00:09:30.980 because of what the Democrats
00:09:32.400 hypothetically might do
00:09:33.380 in the future
00:09:33.800 even though the Democrats
00:09:34.500 have already been
00:09:34.980 wielding power unjustly
00:09:36.360 and capriciously
00:09:36.920 against us for decades.
00:09:38.840 Enough of that, man.
00:09:39.800 That's loser mentality.
00:09:41.840 I am not into that.
00:09:44.120 But it does get down
00:09:45.960 to a fundamental debate
00:09:47.100 over what kind of country we are,
00:09:49.620 how we interact
00:09:50.220 with the government,
00:09:50.820 and where we get our rights,
00:09:52.120 which coincidentally
00:09:52.940 came up in the Senate yesterday
00:09:53.980 when Tim Kaine,
00:09:55.860 the man who was almost
00:09:57.380 one heartbeat away
00:09:59.080 from becoming
00:09:59.560 the second woman president
00:10:00.640 of the United States,
00:10:01.520 Tim Kaine,
00:10:02.080 who since his doomed run
00:10:05.320 for vice president
00:10:06.140 has become more and more
00:10:07.740 like the Joker
00:10:08.800 every single day.
00:10:09.760 You look at him,
00:10:10.140 he just looks like
00:10:10.620 Jack Nicholson as the Joker.
00:10:12.680 Tim Kaine took to the Senate floor
00:10:14.680 bizarrely
00:10:15.340 to mock the notion
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00:11:39.300 Tim Kaine embracing
00:11:40.540 his role
00:11:41.400 as an agent of chaos
00:11:42.800 and movie villain
00:11:43.640 takes to the floor
00:11:44.560 of the U.S. Senate
00:11:45.340 to mock
00:11:45.980 the ideological foundation
00:11:48.000 of the entire United States.
00:11:49.860 The notion that
00:11:52.400 rights don't come
00:11:53.640 from laws
00:11:54.320 and don't come
00:11:55.300 from the government
00:11:56.160 but come from the creator,
00:11:58.180 that's what the Iranian
00:11:59.600 government believes.
00:12:00.700 It's a theocratic regime
00:12:02.180 that bases its rule
00:12:04.560 on Shia law
00:12:05.800 and targets Sunnis,
00:12:08.120 Baha'is,
00:12:09.020 Jews,
00:12:09.780 Christians
00:12:10.200 and other religious minorities.
00:12:11.920 And they do it
00:12:12.900 because they believe
00:12:14.020 that they understand
00:12:14.980 what natural rights are
00:12:16.160 from their creator.
00:12:17.020 So the statement
00:12:19.240 that our rights
00:12:20.780 do not come
00:12:21.920 from our laws
00:12:22.840 or our governments
00:12:23.860 is extremely troubling.
00:12:26.060 It's extremely,
00:12:27.720 extremely troubling.
00:12:28.580 Man,
00:12:29.660 if he thinks
00:12:30.260 that statement is bad,
00:12:31.360 just wait until he reads
00:12:32.380 Thomas Jefferson
00:12:34.680 or really any
00:12:37.940 of the founding fathers
00:12:39.060 and framers
00:12:40.160 of the Constitution
00:12:41.000 or the thinkers
00:12:42.020 from which they got
00:12:43.540 their ideas
00:12:44.220 or the long history
00:12:45.980 of Christendom,
00:12:48.400 he says the Iranian regime
00:12:49.980 targets Baha'i
00:12:51.780 and Jews
00:12:52.520 and Christians
00:12:53.500 and this and that.
00:12:55.100 That's true.
00:12:55.760 In the American regime,
00:12:56.620 we only target Christians.
00:12:58.680 I guess,
00:12:59.520 is that an advantage?
00:13:01.140 The American liberal regime
00:13:02.700 only targets Christians
00:13:03.880 and imprisons
00:13:04.620 pro-life brannies
00:13:05.660 and nuns.
00:13:07.620 But the Iranian regime,
00:13:09.840 those theocrats,
00:13:10.700 because the Iranians,
00:13:12.000 they believe in God too.
00:13:14.440 That's scary.
00:13:15.320 We cannot,
00:13:16.200 this is a radical notion,
00:13:18.020 it's downright Muslim
00:13:18.840 to say that we hold
00:13:19.880 these truths to be self-evident,
00:13:21.160 that all men are created equal
00:13:22.120 and endowed by their creator
00:13:23.140 with certain unalienable rights.
00:13:25.900 The ignorance is astounding.
00:13:29.700 His utter unfamiliarity
00:13:32.200 with the philosophical basis
00:13:33.960 of the United States
00:13:35.120 is jaw-dropping,
00:13:36.900 even though we should come
00:13:37.680 to believe it in recent years
00:13:38.820 because the liberals
00:13:40.600 and the Democrats
00:13:41.260 have made themselves out,
00:13:42.460 often explicitly
00:13:43.500 to be anti-American.
00:13:45.320 But you'd think
00:13:46.240 to be anti-American,
00:13:47.580 you would at least be familiar
00:13:48.700 with what you're opposing.
00:13:49.960 Tim Kaine,
00:13:50.440 not even familiar with that.
00:13:51.840 This is the constant liberal attack
00:13:54.520 on any non-liberal government.
00:13:57.780 The constant attack is,
00:14:00.300 you're basing your judgments
00:14:04.000 of morality and rights
00:14:05.640 on a religious basis?
00:14:08.000 Why, that will lead inevitably
00:14:10.020 to arbitrary rule,
00:14:11.760 to tyranny, to oppression.
00:14:13.820 You can't ground it
00:14:15.240 in anything rational.
00:14:18.120 This is, you have your morality,
00:14:19.720 I have my morality.
00:14:20.540 We can't know anything
00:14:21.200 about morality.
00:14:22.160 This is very scary.
00:14:23.520 And that's why Tim Kaine's
00:14:24.440 alternative is to ground our rights
00:14:26.760 in positive law.
00:14:28.300 And he thinks that's going
00:14:29.000 to solve the question.
00:14:30.460 Not in natural law, certainly,
00:14:32.780 not in a notion of our creator
00:14:34.700 giving us rights,
00:14:35.420 but in just the positive law
00:14:36.620 that really our rights
00:14:37.520 just come from you and I
00:14:38.600 electing our representatives
00:14:39.860 and then they vote on bills
00:14:41.740 and they give us rights
00:14:42.560 or they take our rights away
00:14:43.480 and that's that.
00:14:44.220 But you see the contradiction there.
00:14:48.260 It's in the word rights.
00:14:50.820 The very word rights
00:14:52.440 refers to a conception of justice.
00:14:56.140 It corresponds with notions
00:14:58.640 of right and wrong,
00:15:01.100 which then point to
00:15:03.580 an objective moral order.
00:15:04.700 It speaks to justice,
00:15:07.980 people getting what they deserve.
00:15:09.380 It speaks to something
00:15:10.440 beyond the mere wills
00:15:13.180 and appetites
00:15:14.320 and desires of men.
00:15:16.340 But then he denies
00:15:17.600 that there's any objective
00:15:18.460 basis for it.
00:15:19.160 So he almost has to come up
00:15:20.260 with a different word.
00:15:21.920 Privileges, I guess.
00:15:22.940 So we get our privileges
00:15:23.820 from the government.
00:15:24.700 But you can't say the word rights
00:15:26.000 because the rights
00:15:26.640 are pointing to something
00:15:27.560 beyond the mere
00:15:29.360 irrational desires of men.
00:15:32.120 The sheer tyranny of will.
00:15:33.320 But the reason
00:15:36.520 that he doesn't do that,
00:15:37.500 the reason that he
00:15:38.080 and all the other libs
00:15:38.720 still use the rights language
00:15:40.160 is because liberalism
00:15:42.560 is a form of,
00:15:44.700 is a matter of faith
00:15:46.160 as much as any theocracy.
00:15:48.280 That's really what
00:15:49.020 this comes down to.
00:15:50.620 Liberalism,
00:15:51.320 his form of government,
00:15:52.320 his preferred form of government,
00:15:53.440 unlike the authoritarian
00:15:54.180 Christian government,
00:15:55.640 which he thinks resembles
00:15:56.920 the theocracy of Iran,
00:15:58.900 his preferred liberal form
00:16:01.180 of government
00:16:01.620 is at least as much
00:16:04.120 a matter of faith,
00:16:04.980 actually more a matter of faith,
00:16:07.780 as any theocracy
00:16:09.220 or theocracy's government
00:16:10.580 by clerics.
00:16:11.200 So even just any government
00:16:12.420 that is openly
00:16:13.260 and honestly
00:16:14.940 grounded in religion.
00:16:16.920 Why do I say that?
00:16:18.640 I was reading,
00:16:19.380 you know,
00:16:19.580 I refer to the great
00:16:20.820 Harvard law professor
00:16:21.540 Adrian Vermeule
00:16:22.340 on the show a fair bit.
00:16:23.820 He's reading a great old essay
00:16:24.980 of his in American affairs
00:16:26.800 on the invisible hand.
00:16:31.200 You know,
00:16:31.480 we hear of the invisible hand
00:16:32.780 in matters of economics,
00:16:34.300 you know,
00:16:34.400 the invisible hand
00:16:35.060 of the free market
00:16:35.860 or the invisible hand
00:16:38.120 in the marketplace of ideas,
00:16:39.980 you know,
00:16:40.320 the notion that
00:16:41.540 as long as you have
00:16:42.040 more and more voices,
00:16:43.060 more and more speech,
00:16:44.060 that somehow the truth
00:16:44.740 is going to win out.
00:16:45.620 I wrote a book
00:16:46.500 arguing against that thesis,
00:16:48.620 but that's a very popular view,
00:16:49.920 including on the right.
00:16:50.860 Or the notion that
00:16:52.300 the invisible hand
00:16:54.040 in a competitive mixed regime
00:16:56.420 and a competitive government
00:16:57.920 with checks and balances,
00:16:59.240 with a separation of powers,
00:17:00.620 that that is somehow
00:17:01.280 inevitably going to give you
00:17:02.900 the best form of government,
00:17:04.300 the greatest justice.
00:17:05.520 And even that phrase
00:17:08.040 shows you
00:17:09.040 just how much a matter of faith
00:17:11.640 liberalism is.
00:17:13.160 The invisible hand.
00:17:15.080 The invisible hand
00:17:16.160 is something we used
00:17:16.840 to call providence.
00:17:18.640 That's his point.
00:17:19.420 It's a really excellent essay.
00:17:20.620 I recommend you go read it.
00:17:21.940 The invisible hand
00:17:23.960 is just providence
00:17:24.860 for atheists.
00:17:26.620 The way that we speak,
00:17:27.920 the way that Tim Kaine
00:17:28.580 is speaking about this,
00:17:29.900 he simultaneously
00:17:31.140 has to deny
00:17:32.860 any objective order,
00:17:36.260 morality,
00:17:37.180 metaphysical basis
00:17:38.140 for right and wrong
00:17:40.320 and the things we do
00:17:41.020 in society.
00:17:42.600 He has to deny it.
00:17:43.640 He has to say
00:17:44.020 it's all just about men.
00:17:45.560 But in order to persuade you
00:17:47.960 to go along
00:17:49.320 with his political vision,
00:17:50.140 he has to refer
00:17:51.460 to that pre-liberal
00:17:53.860 and downright religious
00:17:55.280 basis of justice.
00:17:57.080 He has to refer to it.
00:17:58.480 And then, of course,
00:17:58.980 liberalism just eats away
00:17:59.920 at that basis over time.
00:18:01.500 And we've spoken about that
00:18:02.780 many, many times.
00:18:04.820 This is the point
00:18:06.260 you've always got to
00:18:07.160 throw back to the libs
00:18:08.100 whenever they say,
00:18:09.300 well, you're being authoritarian
00:18:10.680 or whatever.
00:18:11.760 I say,
00:18:11.980 not as authoritarian
00:18:12.680 as you are.
00:18:14.160 At least for me,
00:18:15.160 when I refer to
00:18:17.160 how I view politics
00:18:18.860 and how I derive
00:18:20.140 right and wrong,
00:18:20.600 at least I'm pointing
00:18:21.360 to a clear God
00:18:22.320 that you can,
00:18:23.040 to some degree,
00:18:23.620 understand.
00:18:24.880 You guys are hiding
00:18:25.680 the ball even on that.
00:18:27.280 You're demanding
00:18:27.880 an extreme amount
00:18:29.160 of authority
00:18:29.700 over all of us,
00:18:30.940 but you're not even
00:18:32.300 grounding it on
00:18:33.060 a good and
00:18:34.560 logical God
00:18:36.060 who loves us.
00:18:37.220 You're just grounding
00:18:38.180 it in,
00:18:39.180 I don't know,
00:18:40.140 the whims and caprices
00:18:41.020 of Tim Kaine.
00:18:42.260 Ugh,
00:18:42.580 not a good basis
00:18:43.240 of government.
00:18:44.140 Speaking of
00:18:44.580 the invisible hand,
00:18:45.600 President Trump
00:18:46.100 is bullying big tech
00:18:47.320 into investing
00:18:48.300 a lot of money
00:18:48.960 in America.
00:18:49.580 Here he is
00:18:50.200 at a meeting
00:18:50.720 with Mark Zuckerberg
00:18:52.020 just yesterday.
00:18:53.680 Well,
00:18:54.120 thanks for hosting us.
00:18:55.280 I mean,
00:18:55.380 this is quite a group
00:18:56.040 to get together,
00:18:56.840 and I think
00:18:57.560 all of the companies
00:18:59.420 here are building,
00:19:01.060 just making huge
00:19:02.160 investments
00:19:02.620 in the country
00:19:03.660 in order to
00:19:04.540 build out data centers
00:19:05.780 and infrastructure
00:19:06.680 to power the next
00:19:08.640 wave of innovation.
00:19:09.640 So it's,
00:19:10.740 you know,
00:19:10.900 we don't often
00:19:11.360 get together
00:19:11.880 as the CEOs
00:19:13.920 of the different
00:19:14.360 companies,
00:19:15.000 but it's good
00:19:15.980 to see everyone.
00:19:18.180 How much
00:19:18.540 are you spending,
00:19:19.420 would you say,
00:19:20.140 over the next
00:19:20.580 billion years?
00:19:21.420 Oh, gosh.
00:19:22.560 I mean,
00:19:23.080 I think it's probably
00:19:24.000 going to be something
00:19:24.660 like,
00:19:25.500 I don't know,
00:19:26.880 at least
00:19:27.360 $600 billion
00:19:28.780 through 28
00:19:30.740 in the U.S.
00:19:33.020 Yeah.
00:19:33.660 It's a lot.
00:19:34.400 No,
00:19:34.700 it's significant.
00:19:36.560 It's a lot.
00:19:37.500 Thank you, Mark.
00:19:38.140 It's great to have you.
00:19:39.180 Thank you.
00:19:39.900 So he's sitting there,
00:19:41.580 and he's just like
00:19:43.460 Don Corleone.
00:19:44.760 He calls these guys in.
00:19:47.240 Mark Zuckerberg
00:19:47.940 spent a lot of money
00:19:48.800 to make sure Trump
00:19:49.580 wouldn't win in 2020.
00:19:50.840 Spent a lot of money.
00:19:51.860 Some of that money
00:19:52.440 was used to subvert
00:19:54.060 the law in the case
00:19:55.080 of the ballot drop boxes.
00:19:56.940 He's no big friend
00:19:58.120 to Trump.
00:19:59.300 I don't think he's
00:20:00.140 a huge ally
00:20:01.000 of the American right.
00:20:03.360 At least he didn't
00:20:04.280 think his bread
00:20:05.040 was going to be buttered
00:20:05.760 by the American right.
00:20:06.640 He was working
00:20:07.140 for the left.
00:20:07.920 All these guys.
00:20:10.380 And Trump calls
00:20:11.080 them all down
00:20:11.480 to the White House.
00:20:12.000 He gets his power.
00:20:13.460 He's elected
00:20:14.080 with a popular vote.
00:20:15.380 He calls them all
00:20:16.280 down to the White House.
00:20:17.180 He says,
00:20:17.480 Hey, fellas.
00:20:19.280 Thanks.
00:20:19.680 A lot of you came
00:20:20.240 to my inauguration
00:20:21.240 to come kiss the ring.
00:20:22.280 Thanks for coming
00:20:22.860 down for dinner.
00:20:24.900 And then Mark Zuckerberg
00:20:25.600 gets up there,
00:20:26.080 and he says,
00:20:26.820 Hey, yes,
00:20:27.700 it's really nice,
00:20:28.380 Mr. President,
00:20:28.820 to be here with everybody.
00:20:30.320 Really,
00:20:30.740 we don't all have a chance
00:20:31.600 to get together,
00:20:32.380 and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:20:34.300 Nicety, nicety, nicety.
00:20:36.140 And Trump says,
00:20:37.420 Yeah.
00:20:38.460 How much money
00:20:39.200 are you going to spend
00:20:39.980 in this economy?
00:20:41.380 How much money
00:20:41.980 are you going to spend
00:20:42.560 to accomplish
00:20:43.320 my political goals
00:20:44.520 in this country?
00:20:46.160 Oh, yeah, sorry.
00:20:47.120 I was just talking
00:20:48.280 about how really nice.
00:20:49.180 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:20:49.920 Real nice.
00:20:50.440 We're all together.
00:20:51.260 Raise a glass.
00:20:52.080 Cheers.
00:20:52.920 Where's the money?
00:20:54.640 Where's my money, Mark?
00:20:59.120 I'm actually,
00:21:00.020 I was thinking about spending,
00:21:01.820 would $600 billion be enough?
00:21:04.400 Yeah.
00:21:08.360 Yeah, that'd be enough.
00:21:09.340 That's a lot of money,
00:21:10.360 $600 billion.
00:21:11.320 I love this.
00:21:12.760 And this ties in
00:21:13.840 with what we were
00:21:14.260 just talking about.
00:21:16.340 The libs are going
00:21:17.300 to hate this,
00:21:18.160 and the libertarians
00:21:19.540 are going to hate this,
00:21:20.520 because this is
00:21:21.420 President Trump
00:21:22.220 bullying business,
00:21:24.180 and we can never have
00:21:25.320 the state or the political power
00:21:26.820 going into bully business,
00:21:28.000 because that will distort
00:21:28.820 the conditions
00:21:29.380 of the ideal free marketplace,
00:21:31.280 and that's not only inefficient,
00:21:33.960 that's downright immoral.
00:21:35.820 All hail the sacred,
00:21:37.400 invisible hand,
00:21:38.400 magnificent and gracious.
00:21:40.000 Peace be upon it.
00:21:41.580 You cannot have a politician
00:21:43.900 interfere in the economy.
00:21:45.340 Yeah, why?
00:21:46.220 Why is that?
00:21:47.540 Why am I supposed
00:21:48.280 to believe that?
00:21:49.660 Because a great calamity
00:21:51.460 will befall us.
00:21:52.260 The invisible hand
00:21:53.080 will become angry with us.
00:21:55.000 Oh, no.
00:21:55.680 No, I don't think so.
00:21:57.620 I like markets
00:21:58.680 to run efficiently.
00:21:59.780 I don't think we should have
00:22:00.800 some command and control economy,
00:22:02.180 but Trump was elected
00:22:04.040 all the way back in 2016
00:22:05.480 because people came
00:22:09.400 to the realization
00:22:10.160 that we are a country
00:22:12.580 with an economy.
00:22:14.340 We are not an economy
00:22:16.760 that has to be served
00:22:18.580 by the people.
00:22:19.980 You don't want to put the cart
00:22:21.260 before the horse.
00:22:23.660 We don't have a country
00:22:25.120 in order to maximize GDP
00:22:28.920 and economic efficiency
00:22:29.980 and markets and all.
00:22:31.940 No, the markets work for us, okay?
00:22:34.620 And sometimes there are going
00:22:36.480 to be distortions
00:22:37.240 in the markets.
00:22:37.860 That's true inevitably.
00:22:39.780 That's true everywhere
00:22:41.300 other than in an economic textbook
00:22:43.640 with ideal utopian conditions
00:22:45.120 that never exist in practice.
00:22:47.080 There were issues with labor.
00:22:48.880 There were issues with trade.
00:22:50.600 There were issues with America's role
00:22:54.220 as the global hegemon
00:22:55.260 and how we related
00:22:55.980 to other markets
00:22:56.680 around the world.
00:22:57.320 And Trump came in and he said,
00:22:57.980 I'm going to fix that
00:22:58.540 and I'm going to prioritize
00:22:59.200 American workers
00:23:00.040 and I'm going to prioritize
00:23:01.140 investment in our country
00:23:02.260 and I'm going to promote
00:23:03.280 certain industries
00:23:04.200 in order to maintain parity
00:23:06.600 and an advantage, hopefully,
00:23:08.540 with some of our adversaries
00:23:09.540 like China.
00:23:10.900 And Mark, you're going to invest money
00:23:12.200 in this country, okay?
00:23:14.920 That is, that's the right,
00:23:16.820 that's the right way
00:23:17.320 to do things, man.
00:23:18.420 That's really,
00:23:19.280 that's recognizing
00:23:20.260 the political moment.
00:23:23.600 It's turning away
00:23:24.780 from the idol worship
00:23:25.820 of Mammon and Luker
00:23:27.640 and the ideological conceptions
00:23:30.000 of liberalism
00:23:30.680 and the free market.
00:23:31.660 And it's getting back
00:23:32.340 to some kind of basic
00:23:33.280 conservative politics.
00:23:34.580 Love it.
00:23:35.820 All right, now the rest of you,
00:23:36.840 where's my money?
00:23:37.840 Where's my money?
00:23:38.720 Okay, speaking of
00:23:39.600 ever-deepening conservatism,
00:23:41.520 Florida is going to end
00:23:42.320 all vaccine mandates.
00:23:44.160 And this is another issue
00:23:45.160 that's going to split the right,
00:23:46.220 just like the taking away guns
00:23:47.600 from transvestites.
00:23:48.460 We'll get to that in one second.
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00:25:33.800 My favorite comment yesterday
00:25:35.020 is from the Drummer's Workshop,
00:25:35.980 Norm's Music.
00:25:36.640 It says,
00:25:36.980 a Cory Booker engagement
00:25:37.940 is when your gym teacher
00:25:39.320 and your other gym teacher
00:25:41.460 get married.
00:25:42.200 That's not nice.
00:25:42.900 I'm sure she's a lovely gal,
00:25:44.120 but it's Taylor Swift
00:25:45.740 and Travis Kelsey.
00:25:46.580 It's when your English teacher
00:25:47.380 marries your gym teacher
00:25:48.340 and a Cory Booker engagement.
00:25:50.460 It's your gym teacher
00:25:52.020 and your other gym teacher.
00:25:52.840 That's at least what people
00:25:53.480 would expect.
00:25:54.480 Speaking of deepening
00:25:55.420 conservatism,
00:25:57.480 Florida has announced
00:25:58.500 that it will end
00:26:00.900 all vaccine mandates,
00:26:02.660 all vaccine mandates,
00:26:03.820 not just the COVID vax,
00:26:05.900 the old clot shot,
00:26:07.180 Fauci ouchie.
00:26:07.980 No,
00:26:08.120 no,
00:26:08.400 we're talking about
00:26:08.840 all the vaccines.
00:26:10.680 Governor DeSantis
00:26:11.580 has pushed this
00:26:12.420 and his
00:26:13.700 Surgeon General,
00:26:15.860 is it a Surgeon General?
00:26:16.940 The Chief Public Health Officer
00:26:18.080 in the state,
00:26:18.700 Lodapo,
00:26:19.180 is very impressive.
00:26:21.320 For decades now,
00:26:22.880 Florida
00:26:23.280 has required kids
00:26:25.260 who go to schools
00:26:26.160 to get a ton of vaccines.
00:26:28.000 That includes
00:26:28.980 MMR,
00:26:29.860 measles,
00:26:30.160 mumps,
00:26:30.380 and rubella.
00:26:30.900 That includes polio,
00:26:32.220 chickenpox.
00:26:32.880 You didn't have to get
00:26:33.560 the chickenpox vaccine
00:26:34.320 when I was a kid.
00:26:34.820 When I was a kid,
00:26:35.220 you got chickenpox
00:26:35.780 and hepatitis B
00:26:38.160 in case you're
00:26:39.800 sharing any needles
00:26:41.260 or going to brothels
00:26:42.100 in the fourth grade.
00:26:44.320 The state came out
00:26:46.180 on Wednesday
00:26:46.980 and said,
00:26:48.720 those mandates
00:26:49.220 are going to end.
00:26:50.560 And they went even further.
00:26:51.820 They compared the mandates
00:26:52.820 to slavery,
00:26:54.580 said all of them
00:26:55.920 will end,
00:26:56.840 every last one of them.
00:26:58.820 Who am I as a man
00:27:00.300 standing here now
00:27:01.420 to tell you
00:27:02.220 what you should put
00:27:03.200 in your body?
00:27:04.780 This
00:27:05.220 is going to excite
00:27:07.340 a lot of people
00:27:07.920 on the right.
00:27:09.360 Unfortunately,
00:27:10.000 I think it might do so
00:27:10.840 for all the wrong reasons.
00:27:13.200 This is one of these issues
00:27:14.560 where
00:27:14.920 I might agree
00:27:18.200 in practice
00:27:19.700 with getting rid
00:27:21.060 of the vaccine mandates,
00:27:22.280 but I don't agree
00:27:23.120 with it in principle.
00:27:25.200 And a lot of libs
00:27:26.600 and squishes
00:27:28.640 and they will agree
00:27:30.100 with it in principle
00:27:30.880 but not in practice.
00:27:31.840 Isn't that weird?
00:27:32.900 Isn't that kind of weird?
00:27:35.260 In other words,
00:27:36.440 even the left,
00:27:37.400 they will say,
00:27:37.800 well, look,
00:27:38.040 we can't be authoritarian.
00:27:39.220 We can't force people
00:27:40.120 to do things
00:27:40.640 that they don't want to do.
00:27:41.460 Consent is the highest
00:27:42.280 moral criterion.
00:27:43.400 The greatest good
00:27:44.360 in politics
00:27:44.880 is the maximization
00:27:45.900 of individual autonomy.
00:27:47.160 Blah, blah, blah.
00:27:47.640 But, you know,
00:27:51.180 to maximize utility,
00:27:53.200 greatest good
00:27:53.760 for the greatest number,
00:27:54.460 we need to force kids
00:27:55.580 to take these shots.
00:27:57.260 But in principle,
00:27:57.980 I disagree with it,
00:27:58.600 but in practice,
00:27:59.120 I agree with it.
00:28:00.220 Whereas my view
00:28:00.920 is the opposite.
00:28:02.300 I actually have no problem
00:28:03.940 with vaccine mandates
00:28:04.840 in principle.
00:28:06.260 I know,
00:28:06.940 maybe this is going to be
00:28:07.560 an unpopular opinion.
00:28:09.520 I have no problem
00:28:10.960 with vaccine mandates
00:28:11.820 in principle.
00:28:12.960 George Washington
00:28:13.740 and the Continental Army
00:28:14.820 mandated inoculation
00:28:16.500 against smallpox
00:28:17.280 and it killed
00:28:17.680 a ton of people.
00:28:19.060 Okay,
00:28:19.340 there's really
00:28:20.640 nothing conservative
00:28:23.060 about this hyper-individualism
00:28:27.160 that says that the government
00:28:28.040 can never mandate anything.
00:28:29.440 I have nothing wrong
00:28:30.640 with vaccine mandates
00:28:31.500 in principle,
00:28:32.480 and yet,
00:28:33.700 I do disagree with them
00:28:36.020 often in practice.
00:28:36.880 So it's like,
00:28:37.400 in practice,
00:28:38.260 I'm with the Florida government,
00:28:40.280 at least to some degree here,
00:28:41.500 but in principle,
00:28:42.420 I'm wrong
00:28:42.820 and I don't want us
00:28:43.520 to draw the wrong lessons
00:28:44.820 from this.
00:28:46.500 The idea that the government
00:28:47.980 has no right
00:28:48.820 to tell you
00:28:49.360 what to do with your body
00:28:50.380 is a fundamentally
00:28:52.220 liberal idea.
00:28:53.540 It is a liberal,
00:28:54.740 individualist,
00:28:55.680 atomizing idea
00:28:56.600 that phrase society
00:28:57.860 undermines order,
00:28:59.980 undermines hierarchy,
00:29:01.440 undermines power,
00:29:03.680 undermines any coherent
00:29:06.440 conception of the political.
00:29:08.780 Okay,
00:29:09.040 the government does,
00:29:09.980 the government can tell you
00:29:10.980 what seatbelts to put on,
00:29:12.540 the government can tell you
00:29:14.260 what clothes you can
00:29:15.420 and cannot wear
00:29:16.200 to some reasonable,
00:29:17.240 you can't walk out
00:29:18.020 in your birthday suit
00:29:18.700 in the middle of the road.
00:29:19.820 The government can,
00:29:20.860 the government can tell you
00:29:21.720 what drugs you can't
00:29:22.540 put in your body.
00:29:24.720 Some people would argue,
00:29:25.800 no, no,
00:29:26.240 the most conservative thing
00:29:27.020 in the world
00:29:27.340 is to legalize fentanyl
00:29:28.320 or something.
00:29:28.620 No,
00:29:29.780 it's not, man.
00:29:31.820 This,
00:29:32.140 I'm not knocking
00:29:32.680 the Florida policy.
00:29:33.740 It's,
00:29:34.100 it might well be a good thing,
00:29:35.740 but not for the reasons
00:29:37.600 that everyone thinks.
00:29:38.520 The reason that it's,
00:29:39.560 it might be wise
00:29:40.420 to end the vaccine mandates
00:29:42.020 is that
00:29:43.020 the government
00:29:44.420 that we elected
00:29:45.260 has,
00:29:46.860 is now leading investigations
00:29:48.220 thanks to Bobby Kennedy
00:29:49.240 into the safety
00:29:50.500 and efficacy
00:29:51.000 of vaccines.
00:29:52.360 It's being carried out
00:29:53.540 in a reasonably ordered way.
00:29:56.000 And there are questions.
00:29:57.840 After COVID,
00:29:58.740 our public health officials
00:29:59.540 lied to us.
00:30:00.560 During COVID,
00:30:01.240 they lied to us.
00:30:01.720 Afterward,
00:30:02.100 we discovered that.
00:30:03.620 And so it is reasonable
00:30:04.960 to take away
00:30:06.660 some of their power
00:30:07.460 to reduce
00:30:08.800 the interference
00:30:09.960 that they have
00:30:10.600 in our lives.
00:30:11.820 They lied to us
00:30:12.660 specifically about the vaccine.
00:30:13.980 There has to be
00:30:14.620 some consequence to that.
00:30:15.640 And the consequence
00:30:16.060 is probably going to be
00:30:16.940 that we're going to question
00:30:17.960 vaccine safety
00:30:18.900 and efficacy.
00:30:20.040 That's not our fault.
00:30:21.180 That's,
00:30:21.580 that's the public health
00:30:23.140 officials' fault.
00:30:24.480 But don't take
00:30:25.260 the wrong lesson.
00:30:26.120 The lesson to take away
00:30:27.580 is not that
00:30:28.180 we have no political right
00:30:30.220 to enforce things.
00:30:32.760 We do.
00:30:33.440 When we even talk about
00:30:34.040 the government,
00:30:34.580 the government made me do this,
00:30:35.580 the government made me do that.
00:30:36.500 The government is,
00:30:38.480 in principle,
00:30:39.320 and to some degree in practice,
00:30:40.500 a reflection of us,
00:30:42.400 of the people.
00:30:43.020 We elect these guys.
00:30:44.360 We are,
00:30:45.020 we are at the very least
00:30:46.060 citizens in this country.
00:30:47.680 And the government does,
00:30:49.400 they can do things.
00:30:51.460 The,
00:30:51.860 the,
00:30:52.180 the question is,
00:30:53.180 what is prudent
00:30:53.680 for the government to do?
00:30:55.420 Don't take,
00:30:56.180 don't become a big lip.
00:30:57.300 Don't do that.
00:30:57.800 Now,
00:30:57.940 on the point of vaccines,
00:30:58.940 RFK Jr.
00:30:59.480 just got into a shouting match
00:31:00.840 with Mike Bennett.
00:31:02.420 Do you remember Mike Bennett?
00:31:03.920 I think he ran for president.
00:31:05.480 He's one of the many,
00:31:06.600 many also rands
00:31:07.800 among the Democrats
00:31:09.200 in recent years.
00:31:10.460 He has this
00:31:11.380 cartoonishly
00:31:13.060 boring voice.
00:31:15.200 He just has,
00:31:15.940 like the fact that this guy
00:31:16.920 was a presidential candidate
00:31:17.960 is shocking.
00:31:19.020 Anyway,
00:31:19.360 he gets into a big fight
00:31:20.660 with Kennedy
00:31:21.440 yesterday
00:31:22.220 over vaccines.
00:31:25.620 You can make,
00:31:26.980 you can characterize it
00:31:28.040 any way you want.
00:31:28.880 I quoted them today.
00:31:30.300 What I said was accurate.
00:31:31.860 What you said
00:31:33.060 were lies.
00:31:34.680 Are you saying,
00:31:35.900 Senator,
00:31:36.380 moving the Titanic,
00:31:39.040 the tears of the Titanic,
00:31:39.580 Are you saying
00:31:40.180 that a TmRNA vaccine
00:31:41.780 has never been associated
00:31:43.440 with myocarditis
00:31:44.460 or pericarditis
00:31:45.540 in teenagers?
00:31:46.180 I am saying,
00:31:46.820 I am simply,
00:31:47.400 Is that what you're
00:31:48.100 trying to tell us?
00:31:48.840 I am simply trying
00:31:49.960 to say
00:31:50.540 that the people
00:31:51.640 that you have put
00:31:52.720 on that panel
00:31:53.680 after firing
00:31:55.320 the entire,
00:31:56.140 You're evading
00:31:56.700 the question.
00:31:57.380 No,
00:31:58.940 I'm asking the questions
00:32:00.000 here.
00:32:00.200 You're evading
00:32:00.720 that question.
00:32:01.500 I'm asking the questions,
00:32:02.940 Mr. Kennedy.
00:32:04.500 I'm asking the questions
00:32:05.400 for Mr. Kennedy
00:32:06.140 on behalf of parents
00:32:08.240 and schools
00:32:09.700 and teachers
00:32:11.040 all over
00:32:12.240 the United States
00:32:13.180 of America
00:32:13.700 who deserve
00:32:14.800 so much better
00:32:16.240 than your leadership.
00:32:17.580 Oh my goodness.
00:32:18.660 That's what this conversation
00:32:19.500 is about,
00:32:20.300 Mr. Chairman.
00:32:21.400 Senator,
00:32:21.760 they deserve the truth
00:32:23.300 and that's what
00:32:24.200 we're going to give them
00:32:24.880 for the first time
00:32:25.940 in the history of that
00:32:27.240 agency.
00:32:29.720 Love that.
00:32:30.900 Kennedy wins the exchange
00:32:32.420 for sure.
00:32:33.320 There was a while
00:32:33.900 where Bennett was doing okay
00:32:35.060 and then he just became
00:32:36.100 such a blowhard
00:32:37.360 by the end of it
00:32:38.140 or he revealed himself
00:32:38.980 to be such a blowhard.
00:32:41.460 Hold on,
00:32:42.020 I have a question for you.
00:32:43.140 Oh, no, no, no,
00:32:43.900 I'm asking the questions.
00:32:46.160 I'm asking the questions.
00:32:47.400 No, no, no,
00:32:48.000 I'm not,
00:32:48.540 but I am rubber
00:32:49.340 and you are glue
00:32:50.240 and well,
00:32:50.940 what bounces off to me
00:32:51.800 sticks to you.
00:32:53.760 Sounds like a dying whale
00:32:55.680 when Mike Bennett speaks.
00:32:56.900 Pathetic.
00:32:57.880 Totally pathetic.
00:32:58.800 And Kennedy gets him.
00:33:00.500 Kennedy totally nails him
00:33:02.000 because he says,
00:33:03.580 hey,
00:33:05.000 you know,
00:33:05.320 vaccines aren't always safe,
00:33:06.540 right?
00:33:07.140 He goes,
00:33:07.400 oh,
00:33:07.780 there you said
00:33:08.600 on the line
00:33:09.480 of things in the vaccine.
00:33:10.800 You're telling me
00:33:11.420 that these vaccines
00:33:12.120 have never been tied
00:33:12.860 to myocarditis
00:33:13.580 or pericarditis
00:33:14.360 in teenagers?
00:33:16.420 Notably,
00:33:17.240 the COVID vaccine
00:33:18.260 in the last five years.
00:33:19.060 Oh,
00:33:19.740 I don't,
00:33:20.320 you stop
00:33:20.860 having me.
00:33:21.600 It's just,
00:33:26.100 what is that?
00:33:26.860 What do they call it?
00:33:27.280 Echo location?
00:33:28.100 Is that like the sonar?
00:33:29.160 That anyway,
00:33:29.620 I don't know.
00:33:30.880 I can't listen to Mike Bennett anymore.
00:33:32.860 And I think people tune that stuff out
00:33:35.000 because Kennedy can deflate it all
00:33:37.000 with that one question.
00:33:37.800 Hey,
00:33:38.360 remember when you all lied to us
00:33:41.420 about the vaccine
00:33:42.440 you made all of us take
00:33:43.920 five minutes ago?
00:33:46.700 Remember when you made
00:33:47.720 all of us take this vaccine
00:33:49.380 that was untested?
00:33:52.320 That we know was untested
00:33:53.620 because it was developed
00:33:54.320 in five seconds.
00:33:55.220 And you made everyone take it,
00:33:56.520 even the groups
00:33:57.660 that were not at risk
00:33:58.560 from the virus
00:33:59.320 that it was supposed
00:33:59.740 to protect against.
00:34:00.600 And then you lied
00:34:01.580 about the safety risks
00:34:02.520 and people died from it.
00:34:03.760 And you lied
00:34:04.600 about the efficacy.
00:34:06.040 And first you said
00:34:07.000 that if we got the vaccine
00:34:07.980 we wouldn't contract the virus.
00:34:09.640 Then,
00:34:10.140 when that wasn't true,
00:34:11.080 you said,
00:34:11.480 if we got the vaccine
00:34:12.480 we wouldn't spread the virus.
00:34:14.060 Then,
00:34:14.400 when that wasn't true,
00:34:15.200 you made the unfalsifiable claim
00:34:16.840 just like all of the
00:34:17.660 foundational claims
00:34:18.520 of liberalism
00:34:19.280 that,
00:34:20.440 well,
00:34:20.540 it would have been
00:34:20.960 a lot worse without it.
00:34:23.920 Yeah,
00:34:24.280 you remember that?
00:34:24.980 Yeah,
00:34:25.140 we're not going to listen
00:34:25.800 to you anymore.
00:34:26.660 We don't want to listen to me.
00:34:28.260 No,
00:34:28.700 we won't.
00:34:29.580 No,
00:34:30.000 we won't.
00:34:30.300 No,
00:34:30.440 we won't.
00:34:31.240 That's why people elected
00:34:32.100 Trump campaigning
00:34:32.900 with Bobby Kennedy
00:34:33.760 on this issue.
00:34:36.900 Totally.
00:34:37.420 This is,
00:34:37.760 this is a similar,
00:34:39.200 a similar issue.
00:34:41.300 It's not that vaccines
00:34:42.380 are,
00:34:43.660 are
00:34:44.420 necessarily terrible
00:34:45.780 in practice.
00:34:46.360 I have nothing
00:34:46.760 in principle
00:34:47.180 against vaccines,
00:34:48.000 but there are
00:34:49.200 practical consequences
00:34:50.380 to public health
00:34:51.700 priorities
00:34:52.780 and public health
00:34:53.800 actions.
00:34:54.900 And when you lie
00:34:56.020 about vaccines
00:34:56.740 and when the vaccines
00:34:57.400 fail,
00:34:57.680 there's going to be
00:34:58.000 a backlash.
00:34:58.660 You want to blame
00:34:59.080 someone,
00:34:59.480 Mike Bennett?
00:34:59.940 Blame yourself.
00:35:01.780 Okay,
00:35:02.380 before we go,
00:35:03.220 just one,
00:35:03.620 one minor point.
00:35:05.320 President Trump
00:35:06.060 has renamed
00:35:06.660 the Department of Defense.
00:35:08.940 It's now
00:35:09.520 the Department of War.
00:35:11.300 It used to be
00:35:12.220 the Department of War.
00:35:13.640 Then it became
00:35:14.420 this squishy,
00:35:15.460 effeminate
00:35:16.100 lib
00:35:17.220 Department of Defense.
00:35:19.340 And now it's
00:35:19.700 the Department of War
00:35:20.380 again.
00:35:21.780 And just
00:35:22.440 another important
00:35:24.020 point,
00:35:24.800 because the libs
00:35:25.520 are going to hate this
00:35:26.080 and they're going to
00:35:26.420 say that it's bellicose.
00:35:27.580 It's belligerent
00:35:28.320 to call it
00:35:28.780 the Department of War.
00:35:30.500 Au contraire,
00:35:31.800 mes frères,
00:35:33.300 the phrase
00:35:34.160 Department of War
00:35:34.960 is much
00:35:36.560 more
00:35:37.600 inclined toward
00:35:39.780 peace
00:35:40.240 than the Department
00:35:41.180 of Defense.
00:35:41.560 They changed it
00:35:42.040 to Department of Defense
00:35:42.760 because you want
00:35:43.600 to make it seem
00:35:44.080 like you're never
00:35:44.600 launching an
00:35:45.920 offensive war.
00:35:46.760 You're never
00:35:47.000 being the aggressor,
00:35:47.880 but you'll defend
00:35:48.420 yourselves when
00:35:49.060 necessary.
00:35:49.540 But we don't
00:35:50.020 want any
00:35:50.480 aggressive war.
00:35:51.780 Oh,
00:35:52.020 these belligerent
00:35:52.700 maniacs,
00:35:53.180 they want war.
00:35:53.840 No,
00:35:53.960 no,
00:35:54.020 no.
00:35:55.620 The Department
00:35:56.340 of Defense
00:35:56.820 is much more
00:35:57.540 likely to get
00:35:58.060 you embroiled
00:35:58.460 in a war
00:35:58.800 than the Department
00:35:59.580 of War is.
00:36:00.260 You know why?
00:36:01.520 Because the Department
00:36:02.200 of War is honest.
00:36:03.780 The Department
00:36:04.220 of War tells you
00:36:04.900 exactly what it
00:36:05.620 does.
00:36:06.000 It wages war.
00:36:07.640 The phrase
00:36:08.240 Department of
00:36:08.920 Defense is
00:36:09.620 Orwellian.
00:36:11.120 That is an
00:36:11.800 Orwellian phrase.
00:36:13.540 When the Department
00:36:14.380 of Defense ran
00:36:15.100 the second Iraq
00:36:15.820 war,
00:36:17.320 was that
00:36:17.740 honest?
00:36:19.800 Was that a
00:36:20.160 defensive war?
00:36:21.060 Even the first
00:36:21.500 Iraq war,
00:36:21.940 was that a
00:36:22.280 defensive war?
00:36:24.220 Was the war
00:36:25.260 in Libya,
00:36:25.800 was that a
00:36:26.400 defensive war?
00:36:27.240 No,
00:36:27.600 it was a lie.
00:36:28.420 Those were
00:36:28.760 offensive wars.
00:36:29.560 You can defend
00:36:30.200 the justice or
00:36:31.260 injustice of those
00:36:31.880 wars all you like.
00:36:32.920 My point is,
00:36:33.660 that wasn't
00:36:34.320 defensive.
00:36:34.900 Department of War
00:36:38.000 is honest.
00:36:39.440 Which gets to
00:36:41.400 the irony of the
00:36:42.700 Trump administration,
00:36:43.700 at least in the eyes
00:36:44.260 of the left,
00:36:44.760 which is,
00:36:45.280 they all see
00:36:45.800 Trump as being
00:36:46.540 belligerent and
00:36:47.160 bellicose and
00:36:48.120 maniac and a
00:36:49.140 cowboy.
00:36:50.220 And actually,
00:36:50.960 he's much more
00:36:51.560 dovish.
00:36:51.960 He's much more
00:36:52.560 of a peace
00:36:52.960 president than
00:36:53.680 any of the
00:36:54.220 Democrat presidents
00:36:54.960 in my lifetime.
00:36:56.620 Why is that?
00:36:57.460 Because he's honest
00:36:58.140 about what war is
00:36:59.300 like,
00:36:59.540 he's honest about
00:37:00.340 the risks
00:37:01.940 brought about
00:37:03.000 by geopolitical
00:37:04.320 strain and
00:37:05.220 conflict.
00:37:07.540 Because he's
00:37:08.340 honest about it,
00:37:08.980 because he's
00:37:09.400 willing to
00:37:10.080 back up
00:37:11.500 his threats,
00:37:13.040 you get more
00:37:14.280 peace.
00:37:14.780 If you want
00:37:15.440 peace,
00:37:15.900 prepare a
00:37:16.220 department of
00:37:16.620 war.
00:37:17.620 Finally,
00:37:18.040 finally,
00:37:18.400 we get to
00:37:18.740 my favorite
00:37:19.100 time of the
00:37:19.440 week when
00:37:19.880 I get to
00:37:20.700 hear from
00:37:21.040 you in the
00:37:21.260 mailbag.
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00:37:28.080 Take it away.
00:37:29.580 Hi,
00:37:30.040 Michael.
00:37:30.500 I know you
00:37:31.120 said a couple
00:37:31.560 weeks ago that
00:37:32.240 you believe in
00:37:32.860 capital punishment.
00:37:34.020 As a follow-up,
00:37:35.320 I'm just curious.
00:37:36.620 What would your
00:37:37.160 preferred method
00:37:38.260 of execution be?
00:37:40.160 And also,
00:37:40.920 what would your
00:37:41.440 death row meal
00:37:42.480 be?
00:37:43.300 Thanks.
00:37:45.560 I'd probably do
00:37:46.400 a Philly
00:37:46.740 cheesesteak.
00:37:47.820 I don't know
00:37:48.080 why that pop.
00:37:48.520 It's not even
00:37:48.860 that the Philly
00:37:49.140 cheesesteak is my
00:37:50.120 total top
00:37:51.040 favorite food.
00:37:51.780 But I've
00:37:52.760 thought about
00:37:53.400 this question
00:37:53.940 before and I
00:37:54.900 have come to
00:37:55.320 the conclusion
00:37:55.820 my final meal
00:37:56.680 would be a
00:37:57.080 Philly cheesesteak
00:37:57.880 and I would
00:37:58.920 choose death
00:37:59.480 by firing
00:38:00.060 squat if I
00:38:01.740 had to go
00:38:02.260 by capital
00:38:03.140 punishment.
00:38:03.820 And I'd do
00:38:04.920 it at least
00:38:05.540 with a cigarette
00:38:06.060 in my mouth,
00:38:06.660 but I don't
00:38:06.900 like cigarettes
00:38:07.320 really,
00:38:07.600 so I'd like
00:38:08.160 to do it
00:38:08.460 with a cigar
00:38:09.080 or a
00:38:09.540 cigarillo
00:38:10.000 in my mouth.
00:38:11.040 Yeah,
00:38:11.200 that's the way
00:38:11.600 to go.
00:38:11.760 It's much
00:38:12.020 more dignified.
00:38:14.480 Standing up,
00:38:15.480 you know,
00:38:15.700 much more
00:38:16.140 dignified than
00:38:17.040 a lethal
00:38:17.740 injection,
00:38:18.900 the electric
00:38:19.300 chair is a
00:38:19.740 little spooky,
00:38:21.160 noose would
00:38:21.560 freak me out.
00:38:23.280 There's a
00:38:23.600 Dorothy Parker
00:38:24.080 poem about
00:38:24.600 this,
00:38:25.400 but I think
00:38:26.640 firing squat,
00:38:27.340 it's a dignified
00:38:27.940 way to go,
00:38:28.860 especially after
00:38:29.320 a nice tasty
00:38:30.080 cheesesteak.
00:38:30.580 Next question.
00:38:32.260 Hey,
00:38:32.420 Michael,
00:38:32.820 my kid is
00:38:33.660 getting bullied
00:38:34.260 at school.
00:38:35.980 She goes to
00:38:36.720 public school,
00:38:37.340 it seems like
00:38:37.860 it's getting
00:38:38.560 kind of serious.
00:38:39.680 We've reached
00:38:40.060 out to her
00:38:40.460 teacher and
00:38:40.900 her principal
00:38:41.300 and so far
00:38:41.860 nothing's really
00:38:42.480 been done
00:38:42.800 about it.
00:38:43.920 Should we
00:38:44.360 consider moving
00:38:45.380 to homeschooling
00:38:46.080 or private
00:38:46.520 schooling or
00:38:47.120 are there
00:38:47.300 other steps
00:38:47.720 that we
00:38:47.940 should be
00:38:48.220 taking to
00:38:49.260 address this
00:38:49.900 first?
00:38:51.100 Appreciate it.
00:38:51.800 Thanks.
00:38:52.300 Sorry to hear
00:38:52.860 you kids
00:38:53.200 going through
00:38:53.620 that.
00:38:55.580 I would,
00:38:56.400 look,
00:38:57.000 I think a
00:38:58.100 little bit of
00:38:58.580 bullying,
00:38:59.160 a little bit
00:38:59.600 of razzing
00:39:00.180 among kids
00:39:00.760 is important
00:39:01.740 in life
00:39:02.400 and the
00:39:03.480 fact that
00:39:04.000 we kind
00:39:04.540 of extirpated
00:39:05.320 it in the
00:39:05.620 90s and
00:39:06.020 2000s made
00:39:06.760 a generation
00:39:07.240 of weaklings
00:39:07.760 and that's
00:39:08.140 bad.
00:39:08.880 So a little
00:39:09.460 bit of that,
00:39:10.380 a little bit
00:39:10.780 of fighting
00:39:11.460 in the
00:39:11.700 schoolyard
00:39:12.100 is probably
00:39:12.480 good for a
00:39:12.960 kid,
00:39:13.160 builds character,
00:39:13.660 at least for
00:39:13.980 the boys.
00:39:15.780 However,
00:39:16.320 there does
00:39:16.800 come a point
00:39:17.320 at which
00:39:17.760 it can really
00:39:18.800 screw up your
00:39:19.320 life.
00:39:20.140 I know people
00:39:21.040 who were
00:39:21.520 bullied where
00:39:22.560 it really,
00:39:23.640 really screwed
00:39:24.600 up their
00:39:24.880 life and God
00:39:25.480 forbid,
00:39:25.880 you know,
00:39:26.080 they fall
00:39:26.820 into a
00:39:27.120 depression or
00:39:27.700 kill themselves.
00:39:28.340 You hear
00:39:28.500 these stories
00:39:28.880 too,
00:39:29.880 especially when
00:39:30.540 it comes to
00:39:30.840 a girl or
00:39:32.180 with a boy,
00:39:33.180 you know,
00:39:33.440 you want them
00:39:33.840 to learn how
00:39:35.240 to punch back.
00:39:36.780 You need a
00:39:37.680 boy to learn.
00:39:39.060 I remember
00:39:39.540 my mother told
00:39:40.100 me this in
00:39:40.540 elementary school.
00:39:41.180 All the teachers
00:39:41.440 said,
00:39:41.880 if anyone ever
00:39:42.620 pushes you or
00:39:43.240 punches you,
00:39:43.720 you come
00:39:44.120 right to the
00:39:44.480 teacher and
00:39:44.820 you don't do
00:39:45.200 anything.
00:39:45.760 And I told
00:39:46.160 that to my
00:39:46.500 mother and
00:39:46.860 she goes,
00:39:47.160 that's not
00:39:47.580 true.
00:39:48.500 If someone
00:39:49.140 punches you,
00:39:49.720 you got to
00:39:49.880 punch him
00:39:50.140 back.
00:39:51.280 I said,
00:39:51.700 oh,
00:39:52.020 really?
00:39:53.200 About six or
00:39:54.000 something.
00:39:54.900 And I don't
00:39:55.280 know,
00:39:55.500 some kid
00:39:55.820 pushed me
00:39:56.400 and I hit
00:39:57.320 him back and
00:39:57.920 that's good.
00:39:58.480 That's an
00:39:58.740 important lesson
00:39:59.480 at least for
00:39:59.960 a boy.
00:40:01.340 But not so
00:40:02.640 much for a
00:40:03.120 girl.
00:40:04.260 And it can
00:40:04.800 be very,
00:40:05.460 very bad.
00:40:06.140 And especially
00:40:06.480 if the school
00:40:07.340 is unresponsive,
00:40:09.020 I'd pull her.
00:40:10.060 I would pull
00:40:10.540 her.
00:40:10.700 If it's really
00:40:11.360 getting bad and
00:40:11.980 there's nothing
00:40:12.600 that's improving,
00:40:13.880 I'd pull her
00:40:14.420 and send her to a
00:40:15.740 different school
00:40:16.080 if you can afford
00:40:16.560 it or homeschool
00:40:17.820 something for a
00:40:18.440 little bit.
00:40:18.800 But I would
00:40:19.440 take it
00:40:19.900 seriously.
00:40:22.160 This is the
00:40:23.420 proper conservative
00:40:24.260 view.
00:40:24.940 You have to,
00:40:26.100 you're more,
00:40:27.820 I don't know,
00:40:29.680 tolerant of
00:40:30.380 bullying than
00:40:31.400 the libs.
00:40:32.040 But in that way,
00:40:33.100 you actually take
00:40:33.580 it more seriously
00:40:34.500 because you
00:40:35.720 recognize it
00:40:36.140 actually means
00:40:37.040 something and
00:40:37.500 it can go too
00:40:38.580 far.
00:40:39.040 Next question.
00:40:40.980 Hi,
00:40:41.480 Michael.
00:40:41.980 So I've been
00:40:42.540 seeing this guy
00:40:43.160 and he seems
00:40:43.780 to have a lot
00:40:44.180 of great
00:40:44.440 qualities,
00:40:45.100 but he often
00:40:45.880 smokes weed.
00:40:47.080 My question
00:40:47.620 is,
00:40:48.160 is that a
00:40:48.520 deal breaker?
00:40:49.420 On the same
00:40:49.980 note,
00:40:50.380 is it okay
00:40:50.920 to date someone
00:40:51.580 with the goal
00:40:51.980 of fixing
00:40:52.460 their vices
00:40:53.080 or changing
00:40:53.980 them?
00:40:54.680 Like a
00:40:55.460 conservative
00:40:55.860 dating a lib
00:40:56.560 or an
00:40:57.100 anti-weed person
00:40:58.220 dating a weed
00:40:59.140 smoker in
00:40:59.820 order to try
00:41:00.260 to get them
00:41:00.620 to stop?
00:41:02.700 Good question.
00:41:04.180 It's not a
00:41:04.740 good sign.
00:41:06.680 To put aside
00:41:07.420 here,
00:41:08.560 you know,
00:41:09.120 a wounded
00:41:10.040 veteran with
00:41:10.860 PTSD
00:41:11.480 who has
00:41:12.660 been prescribed
00:41:13.460 medicinal
00:41:14.240 marijuana,
00:41:15.020 so-called.
00:41:15.580 Let's just
00:41:15.940 put that,
00:41:16.280 I'm not even
00:41:16.660 weighing in
00:41:17.120 on that issue
00:41:17.600 right now.
00:41:18.560 Put that aside.
00:41:19.200 You're just
00:41:19.460 talking about
00:41:20.000 a young guy
00:41:20.740 who likes
00:41:22.080 to smoke
00:41:22.460 the devil's
00:41:22.940 lettuce.
00:41:23.880 I think it's
00:41:24.560 a bad sign.
00:41:25.600 I mean,
00:41:25.820 one of the
00:41:26.460 moral arguments
00:41:27.840 about this
00:41:28.420 is it's
00:41:28.800 different from
00:41:29.500 alcohol in
00:41:30.320 as much as
00:41:30.820 you can have
00:41:31.220 a drink
00:41:31.620 or two
00:41:31.920 drinks
00:41:32.320 and not
00:41:33.080 get drunk.
00:41:33.740 I mean,
00:41:33.920 Christ,
00:41:34.360 you know,
00:41:34.580 his first
00:41:34.880 public miracle
00:41:35.480 is turning
00:41:35.840 water into
00:41:36.300 wine for
00:41:36.660 people who
00:41:36.980 have been
00:41:37.160 drinking
00:41:37.380 for days.
00:41:38.800 But you
00:41:39.260 can do
00:41:39.540 that.
00:41:39.840 You can
00:41:40.080 also drink
00:41:40.560 too much
00:41:40.940 and get
00:41:41.160 drunk.
00:41:41.500 That would
00:41:41.680 be a sin.
00:41:42.260 But you
00:41:42.480 can drink
00:41:42.960 just socially,
00:41:43.580 have a drink
00:41:43.940 or two,
00:41:44.440 and kind of
00:41:44.760 loosens things
00:41:45.260 up, but
00:41:45.600 you haven't
00:41:46.680 really lost
00:41:47.120 control of
00:41:47.560 your faculties.
00:41:48.280 you can't
00:41:49.980 really do the
00:41:50.660 same with
00:41:51.360 the sin
00:41:51.640 spinach.
00:41:53.080 If you're
00:41:54.100 smoking pot,
00:41:54.940 you're getting
00:41:55.420 high.
00:41:56.700 Unless you're
00:41:58.760 doing a
00:41:59.040 Bill Clinton
00:41:59.460 thing,
00:42:00.160 it takes you
00:42:02.400 further.
00:42:03.620 And it
00:42:04.440 just codes
00:42:05.720 lib.
00:42:06.900 It makes
00:42:07.300 you more
00:42:07.820 mellow,
00:42:08.420 man.
00:42:09.020 It kind of
00:42:09.600 makes you a
00:42:10.120 little less
00:42:10.640 ambitious.
00:42:11.520 It makes
00:42:11.720 you a little
00:42:12.000 less energetic.
00:42:13.400 It makes
00:42:13.640 you a little
00:42:13.920 more inclined
00:42:14.580 to eat a
00:42:15.040 big bag
00:42:15.380 of Cheetos.
00:42:15.940 It codes
00:42:18.120 lib.
00:42:18.820 And so
00:42:19.340 if he's
00:42:20.620 just doing
00:42:20.960 this
00:42:21.160 recreationally
00:42:21.980 frequently at
00:42:22.680 the beginning
00:42:23.160 of your
00:42:23.440 relationship,
00:42:24.280 I wouldn't
00:42:25.100 nag him
00:42:25.500 about it,
00:42:25.940 but I
00:42:26.100 would just
00:42:26.420 say,
00:42:26.800 hey,
00:42:27.440 this is
00:42:28.440 deeply
00:42:29.620 unattractive
00:42:30.660 and you
00:42:31.200 seem like
00:42:32.140 a lib,
00:42:32.720 and I
00:42:33.060 find libs
00:42:34.620 to be
00:42:35.320 gross.
00:42:38.300 And I
00:42:38.500 want a
00:42:38.860 chad.
00:42:39.340 I want a
00:42:39.720 giga chad.
00:42:40.440 If you
00:42:41.780 don't want
00:42:42.100 to be a
00:42:42.420 giga chad,
00:42:42.980 that's fine,
00:42:43.700 but I'm
00:42:44.060 going to go
00:42:44.280 get a
00:42:44.540 giga chad
00:42:45.160 if you
00:42:45.520 want to
00:42:45.760 be like
00:42:46.360 a huge
00:42:47.100 couch potato
00:42:48.660 lib,
00:42:48.960 that's fine.
00:42:49.860 That's okay,
00:42:50.260 but then you
00:42:50.600 need to go
00:42:50.880 get like a
00:42:51.320 lib girlfriend
00:42:51.760 with a
00:42:52.120 septum
00:42:52.400 piercing and
00:42:52.960 you know,
00:42:53.220 10 face
00:42:53.620 tattoos.
00:42:54.820 And that's
00:42:55.160 fine.
00:42:55.500 But it's
00:42:56.700 not a
00:42:56.940 good sign.
00:42:58.840 Take up
00:42:59.320 cigars,
00:42:59.780 take up
00:43:00.000 Mayflower
00:43:00.320 cigars.
00:43:01.120 It's better
00:43:01.580 for you.
00:43:02.000 It's much
00:43:02.360 more attractive.
00:43:03.080 Next
00:43:03.240 question.
00:43:06.540 I want
00:43:07.240 your further
00:43:07.700 thoughts about
00:43:08.520 Israel and
00:43:09.100 its influence
00:43:09.660 on America.
00:43:10.440 Fill on your
00:43:10.800 analysis on
00:43:11.480 Trump's
00:43:11.940 Israel used
00:43:12.980 to control
00:43:13.460 Congress
00:43:14.060 statement.
00:43:14.620 First off,
00:43:16.300 many of the
00:43:16.820 people who
00:43:17.240 are against
00:43:17.820 anti-Semitism
00:43:18.900 clearly act
00:43:19.800 as a stereotype.
00:43:20.520 For two
00:43:20.780 examples,
00:43:21.340 one a Jew,
00:43:21.860 the other not.
00:43:23.200 Congressmen like
00:43:24.180 Randy Fine and
00:43:25.020 Don Bacon have
00:43:26.000 effectively proclaimed
00:43:26.980 their fealty to
00:43:27.860 Israel above
00:43:28.960 America.
00:43:29.960 We criticize
00:43:30.700 Ilhan Omar for
00:43:31.940 her obvious
00:43:32.620 loyalty to a
00:43:33.500 foreign country
00:43:34.000 all day,
00:43:34.680 but Republicans
00:43:35.420 are largely and
00:43:36.800 strangely quiet
00:43:37.660 when it's for
00:43:38.140 Israel and the
00:43:38.860 Jews.
00:43:39.540 They insist on
00:43:40.440 giving real
00:43:41.180 claims to people
00:43:42.420 against Jews.
00:43:43.280 Matt Gaetz
00:43:44.460 once said,
00:43:45.100 if you oppose
00:43:45.620 the U.S.-Israel
00:43:46.460 relationship,
00:43:47.660 you face
00:43:48.040 tremendous
00:43:48.700 headwinds to
00:43:49.320 get into
00:43:49.760 government.
00:43:51.160 An AOC was
00:43:52.040 an example of
00:43:52.780 an anti-Israel
00:43:53.700 congressman
00:43:54.400 Trump used,
00:43:55.560 but she voted
00:43:56.340 to directly fund
00:43:57.400 Israel and
00:43:58.360 then put out a
00:43:58.940 gobbledygook
00:43:59.540 ex-post about
00:44:00.760 how funding
00:44:01.260 Israel was
00:44:01.840 necessary and
00:44:02.540 not funding
00:44:03.080 their alleged
00:44:03.680 genocide.
00:44:04.960 Israel isn't
00:44:05.820 shadowrunning our
00:44:06.680 government like
00:44:07.320 a wild spy
00:44:08.060 movie, but if
00:44:09.380 AOC is the
00:44:10.400 normal anti-Israel
00:44:11.700 politician, it
00:44:13.060 begs the
00:44:13.520 question about
00:44:14.340 how much
00:44:14.720 foreign influence
00:44:15.820 and interests,
00:44:17.380 particularly with
00:44:18.040 Israel, are
00:44:18.840 baked into our
00:44:19.540 government.
00:44:20.300 I'd love your
00:44:20.960 thoughts.
00:44:22.160 Oh, sure.
00:44:22.880 All right.
00:44:23.460 That was a little
00:44:23.760 bit of a lot.
00:44:24.220 We try to,
00:44:24.840 this is not a
00:44:25.460 knock on you,
00:44:26.020 but try to keep
00:44:27.160 the questions
00:44:27.680 tough, if you can,
00:44:28.440 under a minute,
00:44:28.940 ideally 30 seconds,
00:44:29.820 so that we can,
00:44:30.280 you know, we've
00:44:30.560 got to fit a lot
00:44:30.960 of questions in the
00:44:31.480 show.
00:44:31.840 But it's a good
00:44:32.320 question, and it
00:44:33.220 comes from Trump
00:44:34.380 this past week.
00:44:35.620 He said, isn't it
00:44:36.620 great?
00:44:36.860 Look, I love
00:44:37.460 Israel.
00:44:38.040 Israel's great.
00:44:38.760 They used to
00:44:40.360 totally control
00:44:41.200 Congress, and now
00:44:42.360 they have no
00:44:42.760 control over Congress
00:44:43.580 at all, and
00:44:43.940 everyone hates
00:44:44.360 them.
00:44:45.040 Israel's great.
00:44:45.840 It was a compliment
00:44:47.240 sandwich with this
00:44:47.960 really funny thing in
00:44:48.700 the middle.
00:44:49.440 And this is how I
00:44:51.040 think he defangs
00:44:51.760 this issue, because
00:44:52.800 there are some
00:44:53.180 people who insist
00:44:54.060 that the state of
00:44:54.920 Israel has no
00:44:55.700 lobbying in the
00:44:56.320 United States, no
00:44:57.420 influence whatsoever,
00:44:59.040 none.
00:44:59.360 That's like totally
00:45:00.020 crazy and ridiculous,
00:45:01.000 and if you suggest
00:45:01.540 that that's true,
00:45:02.620 you're an anti-Semite.
00:45:04.080 You know, there's
00:45:04.420 that view.
00:45:04.900 That's obviously
00:45:06.120 preposterous.
00:45:06.960 Israel has a
00:45:08.060 very strong
00:45:08.720 lobby in the
00:45:09.220 United States, or
00:45:10.220 had a very strong
00:45:11.540 lobby, per Trump's
00:45:13.200 point.
00:45:13.860 Then there's this
00:45:14.480 other side that
00:45:15.240 says, you know,
00:45:15.820 Israel is pulling
00:45:16.540 the strings, and
00:45:17.360 every time I stub
00:45:19.280 my toe in the
00:45:19.840 morning, it's
00:45:20.340 because some Jew
00:45:21.120 in a schrimel is,
00:45:22.120 you know, secretly
00:45:23.000 conspiring to move
00:45:24.640 my furniture.
00:45:26.140 That's also not
00:45:27.720 true.
00:45:28.880 The reality is that
00:45:30.920 the state of
00:45:31.640 Israel, because of
00:45:33.440 historical circumstance,
00:45:35.800 among other things,
00:45:36.960 just has this
00:45:37.920 relationship with
00:45:38.640 the United States.
00:45:40.420 The state of
00:45:40.920 Israel is founded
00:45:41.580 by the United
00:45:42.100 Nations, which is
00:45:44.280 seated in the
00:45:44.740 United States.
00:45:45.780 It was founded,
00:45:47.760 it was permitted
00:45:49.220 or licensed
00:45:50.300 decades earlier
00:45:51.660 by the British
00:45:52.720 Empire.
00:45:53.360 We are the
00:45:53.740 successor of the
00:45:54.460 British Empire, in
00:45:55.120 many ways, we're
00:45:55.720 kind of the same
00:45:56.340 thing.
00:45:57.600 And it was
00:45:59.420 founded after the
00:46:00.060 Second World War,
00:46:00.840 which we won when
00:46:02.040 we became one of
00:46:03.300 the two superpowers
00:46:04.060 of the world on our
00:46:04.740 way to becoming a
00:46:05.280 global hegemon.
00:46:05.800 So we just have
00:46:06.640 this relationship
00:46:07.240 with Israel, and
00:46:07.840 we have plenty of
00:46:09.780 pro-Israel people in
00:46:10.520 the United States,
00:46:11.120 plenty of Jews in
00:46:11.620 the United States,
00:46:12.140 plenty of Jews who
00:46:12.600 hate Israel in the
00:46:13.260 United States, so
00:46:13.860 that's not exactly
00:46:14.540 monolithic.
00:46:15.540 But there's all
00:46:16.540 these reasons that
00:46:17.480 there are political
00:46:18.060 headwinds that support
00:46:19.720 Israel.
00:46:20.360 But I think also,
00:46:22.100 you can't ignore the
00:46:23.480 second part of Trump's
00:46:24.420 comment, which is,
00:46:25.740 yeah, they don't
00:46:26.000 really have control
00:46:26.600 anymore.
00:46:27.300 Just look at the
00:46:27.860 public opinion polling.
00:46:29.620 Just look at the way
00:46:30.700 congressmen are speaking
00:46:31.560 about this now.
00:46:32.140 Just look at, you
00:46:32.900 know, look at, I
00:46:33.600 don't know, any
00:46:34.060 popular media, left,
00:46:36.320 increasingly on the
00:46:37.480 right, mainstream
00:46:39.000 fringe.
00:46:39.700 They all hate Israel.
00:46:40.880 So, I mean, I think
00:46:41.760 that would be evidence
00:46:42.840 that, and maybe this
00:46:44.680 will be a consolation
00:46:45.780 to some people, that
00:46:46.380 would be evidence that
00:46:47.320 the state of Israel
00:46:47.880 doesn't really have
00:46:49.560 quite as much influence
00:46:50.560 as, not only as they
00:46:52.300 once did, but as
00:46:53.080 people seem to imagine
00:46:54.120 that they do.
00:46:55.480 It's, it's the least
00:46:56.900 popular view, as I
00:46:57.860 always mention, on the
00:46:58.620 Israel-Palestine
00:46:59.260 conflict, is my view,
00:47:00.580 is that things are just
00:47:01.400 kind of murky and
00:47:02.340 nuanced, and these
00:47:03.720 kind of extreme theories
00:47:05.380 just don't really hold
00:47:06.220 water.
00:47:06.740 And that seems to be
00:47:07.240 Trump's view as well.
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