The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1862 - Somali Migrants CAUGHT Using Your Tax Dollars To Fund Terrorists

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00:02:18.500 Everyone says Somalis are stupid. 1.00

00:02:21.540 The average IQ in Somalia is supposedly 67 or 68. 1.00

00:02:26.660 Well, well below 100, which is supposed to be the average.

00:02:30.960 And yet, in many ways, Somalis seem a lot smarter than Americans. 0.99

00:02:36.400 Because according to a new report, Somalis have been tricking Minnesota taxpayers 1.00

00:02:40.580 into paying them hundreds of millions of dollars in fraudulent welfare claims.

00:02:45.900 Much of which has gone back to Somalia to fund Al-Shabaab, a foreign terrorist organization

00:02:51.640 that the United States has directly fought against.

00:02:54.600 As a federal counterterrorism source concluded, quote,

00:02:57.560 the largest funder of Al-Shabaab is the Minnesota taxpayer.

00:03:02.400 The Minnesota Somalis managed to pull off this incredible operation for a few reasons.

00:03:08.820 One, they have a cohesive group identity.

00:03:12.780 Two, they have a clear sense of political friends and enemies.

00:03:16.560 Three, they have stable traditions.

00:03:19.380 Four, they have the ability to coordinate among themselves to achieve political ends.

00:03:24.180 They might be schemers, and they might be criminals, and they might even be terrorists. 1.00

00:03:30.780 But I hesitate to call them stupid. 1.00

00:03:34.560 Because as a matter of purely political intelligence, 1.00

00:03:38.220 if the average Somali IQ really is 68,

00:03:42.320 ours is in the single digits.

00:03:43.920 I'm Michael Knowles.

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00:05:35.080 The Somali story.

00:05:36.240 It's just unbelievable.

00:05:37.940 My hat's off to the Somalis. 1.00

00:05:41.160 You got to hand it to them.

00:05:42.720 The hubris, the chauvinism from Westerners 1.00

00:05:47.180 who say those Somalis, their IQ is below 70. 0.93

00:05:51.060 These guys, they can barely walk around 0.97

00:05:53.180 and breathe at the same time.

00:05:54.480 Well, they tricked you, didn't they? 1.00

00:05:56.740 You can call Somalis stupid all you want. 1.00

00:05:59.240 They just tricked you, supposedly genius American taxpayers, 1.00

00:06:05.400 into funding their terror group in Somalia.

00:06:08.860 This is from the report.

00:06:10.720 It's out of City Journal, Chris Rufo.

00:06:12.320 Just phenomenal work as always.

00:06:15.000 Minnesota's Medicaid Housing Stabilization Services Program

00:06:18.380 is the first of its kind in its country.

00:06:20.840 It's not the first subsidized housing program,

00:06:23.180 but it's the first of this kind in as much as

00:06:25.560 the goal was so broad.

00:06:27.540 It was to help seniors.

00:06:28.720 It was to help drug addicts.

00:06:29.840 It was to help the disabled.

00:06:31.100 It was to help the mentally ill.

00:06:33.380 And it was specifically designed

00:06:35.120 with very low barriers to entry.

00:06:36.900 Because the Libs say, okay,

00:06:37.680 we got these welfare programs,

00:06:39.100 but they're not reaching as many people

00:06:41.740 as we want them to reach

00:06:42.840 because it excludes all sorts of people

00:06:45.320 who might commit fraud,

00:06:46.700 who might not want to give up their drug addictions,

00:06:48.780 who have all sorts of antisocial behaviors.

00:06:51.220 And so they say,

00:06:51.880 what if we just get rid of the barriers to entry?

00:06:53.500 Then we'll give money to more people,

00:06:56.380 including Al-Shabaab.

00:06:58.060 So they say,

00:06:58.960 there are minimum requirements for reimbursement.

00:07:00.940 The annual estimate for how much this is going to cost

00:07:03.840 was a little over $2.5 million.

00:07:05.860 First year,

00:07:07.300 program pays out more than $21 million in claims.

00:07:11.100 So many, many multiples.

00:07:14.160 In the ensuing years,

00:07:15.360 costs shot up to $42 million,

00:07:17.840 so it doubled.

00:07:18.340 Then $74 million.

00:07:20.300 Then $104 million.

00:07:21.820 So now we're at 50 times

00:07:23.400 almost what it was supposed to cost.

00:07:26.660 Then during the first six months of 2025,

00:07:28.680 payouts totaled $61 million.

00:07:30.560 So annualized could be $122 million.

00:07:34.340 On top of that,

00:07:36.120 that was one welfare program 0.86

00:07:37.660 the Somalis exploited. 0.91

00:07:38.940 There's another one called Feeding Our Future.

00:07:41.660 When this article was published,

00:07:44.240 which was within the last few days,

00:07:46.080 the U.S. Attorney's Office reported

00:07:48.420 that Abdullah al-Nur Jassau

00:07:51.680 had become the 56th defendant to plead guilty

00:07:54.940 in the $250 million

00:07:56.900 Feeding Our Future fraud scheme.

00:07:59.660 I think that number now

00:08:00.660 is jumping up to 77 people

00:08:02.280 being prosecuted for it.

00:08:03.560 The number's going to go way, way higher

00:08:04.780 because it was a massive

00:08:06.240 community-wide fraud scheme

00:08:08.200 to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.

00:08:11.200 Then,

00:08:12.640 forget about the housing,

00:08:13.940 forget about the food.

00:08:14.540 There was an autism fraud scheme.

00:08:16.540 Yes, autism fraud.

00:08:18.560 Was there?

00:08:19.940 I didn't know that was a type of fraud,

00:08:21.420 but there's autism fraud.

00:08:22.760 Minnesota's Early Intensive Developmental

00:08:24.620 and Behavioral Intervention Program,

00:08:26.300 the Somalis perpetrated 1.00

00:08:27.500 a $14 million fraud scheme against that.

00:08:31.040 They pretended to have autism

00:08:32.280 and they got a lot of money.

00:08:34.380 On and on and on.

00:08:36.120 A ton of this money has gone to Al-Shabaab.

00:08:38.660 So what are we to take from this?

00:08:41.220 One,

00:08:42.240 we got to get these Somalis out, okay? 1.00

00:08:44.160 It's no knock on them.

00:08:45.800 Actually,

00:08:46.400 they have my respect.

00:08:48.660 They don't have my respect

00:08:50.000 because they're lying

00:08:50.780 and committing sins

00:08:52.040 and doing all sorts of bad stuff.

00:08:53.440 But they do,

00:08:53.980 at a base political level,

00:08:55.540 they have my respect

00:08:56.640 for getting it done

00:08:58.100 for their community

00:08:58.780 at the expense

00:09:00.520 of the American taxpayer,

00:09:01.860 specifically the Minnesota taxpayer.

00:09:03.040 But they got to go.

00:09:05.560 Guys,

00:09:06.380 there are a lot of problems.

00:09:07.600 They're bringing in foreign religion, 1.00

00:09:09.320 foreign religious practices.

00:09:10.220 They're marrying their relatives. 0.96

00:09:11.960 They're committing immigration fraud.

00:09:13.360 They're committing welfare fraud.

00:09:14.460 They got to go.

00:09:15.320 They got to go.

00:09:15.940 I'm not saying all of them.

00:09:17.160 Some, I assume,

00:09:18.040 are good people,

00:09:18.980 but most of them have to go,

00:09:20.600 starting with Ilhan Omar.

00:09:22.000 However,

00:09:22.760 the real takeaway I have,

00:09:24.040 the thing that I find most interesting

00:09:25.080 and no one's talking about here

00:09:26.560 is for all my life,

00:09:29.360 Americans on the right

00:09:31.380 had this kind of instinct,

00:09:33.480 instinctive,

00:09:34.620 polemical,

00:09:36.360 I don't know,

00:09:37.340 habit

00:09:38.680 against welfare.

00:09:41.400 They said,

00:09:41.700 how welfare is being abused.

00:09:43.020 There are these welfare queens. 1.00

00:09:44.180 We need to minimize

00:09:45.060 the welfare programs.

00:09:46.840 These social safety nets

00:09:47.900 can turn into spider webs

00:09:49.040 that entrap people

00:09:49.920 in actual cycles of poverty.

00:09:51.460 And so we need to cut welfare.

00:09:53.580 That was what the right believed.

00:09:54.880 And there's been a turn

00:09:56.040 in recent years

00:09:57.460 from the new right,

00:09:58.440 and I'm very sympathetic to this,

00:10:00.820 which is to say,

00:10:01.960 well, welfare is not bad in itself.

00:10:04.000 And we do need to care about the poor

00:10:06.500 because politics really should be oriented

00:10:08.320 toward the common good.

00:10:09.240 And one of the great errors

00:10:10.660 of the American right

00:10:11.800 in the last 60, 70 years

00:10:13.320 is it became much too libertarian,

00:10:15.420 much too focused

00:10:16.120 on a hyper-individualism

00:10:17.500 that really is borrowed from the left.

00:10:19.280 It doesn't traditionally

00:10:20.080 come from the right.

00:10:20.940 And so we need to care more

00:10:21.760 about the common good,

00:10:22.540 and so maybe we should loosen up

00:10:23.560 on welfare.

00:10:24.280 And what's very funny,

00:10:25.200 everything old is new again.

00:10:27.200 As Animal Farm says,

00:10:28.500 donkeys live a very long time.

00:10:29.740 You've never seen a dead donkey.

00:10:31.180 Now we're kind of coming back

00:10:32.300 and we're saying,

00:10:32.640 actually, no,

00:10:33.160 this welfare program,

00:10:34.320 we got to cut it.

00:10:35.680 There's so much fraud.

00:10:36.860 Even just nationally,

00:10:37.700 the government shutdown showed us

00:10:38.620 there's so much fraud

00:10:39.500 with food stamps.

00:10:40.460 Now we call it SNAP.

00:10:41.760 It's like 10% of Tennessee

00:10:43.040 or something is on food stamps.

00:10:44.320 They don't need it.

00:10:45.240 There's no social stigma

00:10:46.160 associated with it anymore.

00:10:47.080 It's like,

00:10:47.560 maybe we need to cut this back, guys.

00:10:49.060 We're funding al-Shabaab, 1.00

00:10:50.220 like enough with the welfare, right?

00:10:51.920 So what does this mean for us?

00:10:53.700 What do we conclude?

00:10:55.060 Were we right 20 years ago

00:10:57.260 in the super libertarian

00:10:58.880 neocon-infused days?

00:11:00.280 Or is the new right right?

00:11:01.680 Is the new new right?

00:11:02.800 What is,

00:11:03.180 where are we supposed

00:11:03.600 to think about this?

00:11:05.080 The point to take away is,

00:11:07.000 you cannot divorce economic policy

00:11:09.760 from social policy.

00:11:11.720 Ben and I were having this debate

00:11:12.980 the other day on Friendly Fire.

00:11:14.420 Ben said,

00:11:16.160 you know,

00:11:16.340 really you gotta separate

00:11:17.700 social policy from economic policy.

00:11:19.700 Economic health doesn't necessarily 0.91

00:11:20.860 mean social health.

00:11:21.700 And my argument is,

00:11:22.540 no,

00:11:22.720 we're integral creatures

00:11:23.940 and you can't really separate

00:11:25.580 these two things.

00:11:27.300 And so in this case,

00:11:29.060 what we're saying is,

00:11:30.080 yes,

00:11:30.320 you could have

00:11:31.660 a more robust welfare program

00:11:34.360 and, you know,

00:11:36.100 a greater care for the common good

00:11:37.400 if you have

00:11:38.180 a higher trust society.

00:11:39.400 If you don't have 0.99

00:11:40.020 a bunch of freaking Somalis 1.00

00:11:41.480 who are trying to scheme 1.00

00:11:42.700 the system so that they can

00:11:43.980 go fund terrorists overseas.

00:11:46.040 Yeah,

00:11:46.600 you need social solidarity

00:11:48.820 in order to have

00:11:50.320 a more robust social safety net.

00:11:51.860 This is why it works

00:11:52.660 in homogenous countries

00:11:53.640 like in Scandinavia.

00:11:56.260 That's the issue.

00:11:57.120 The takeaway is,

00:11:58.660 the traditional,

00:12:01.160 like,

00:12:01.420 not traditional,

00:12:02.240 neo-traditional,

00:12:03.280 I don't know,

00:12:03.600 Reagan right

00:12:04.440 comes out and says,

00:12:06.360 look,

00:12:06.520 we need to cut welfare. 0.51

00:12:08.020 There's a lot of fraud.

00:12:08.660 Yeah,

00:12:08.760 they were right about that.

00:12:09.900 And the new right

00:12:10.900 comes out and says,

00:12:11.840 we need to care more

00:12:14.300 about the common good.

00:12:15.340 And they're right about that too.

00:12:17.340 And the conclusion of it is,

00:12:19.120 you need to recognize

00:12:20.400 it's not just culture

00:12:22.400 and politics

00:12:23.180 and social policy

00:12:24.020 and economic policy

00:12:24.880 and foreign policy.

00:12:25.760 It's all kind of the same.

00:12:27.500 It's all one political community.

00:12:29.520 And we need to get rid 1.00

00:12:31.200 of these scheming Somalis 1.00

00:12:32.640 because they are smarter than us 0.99

00:12:35.260 in many ways

00:12:36.720 when it comes to

00:12:37.600 political philosophy.

00:12:38.220 Okay,

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00:14:08.920 Lila Rose,

00:14:09.840 I'm home again, Rose.

00:14:10.900 Lila,

00:14:11.280 wonderful to have you on the show.

00:14:12.600 Thank you for being here.

00:14:14.040 Good morning

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00:14:17.620 I am roiling with envy.

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00:14:23.960 Got to ask that producer

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00:14:26.360 Wow,

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00:14:27.800 I just have some,

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00:14:31.880 So Lila,

00:14:32.800 really weird story.

00:14:33.800 I wanted a female perspective 1.00

00:14:34.940 on this.

00:14:38.280 I'll just state the facts first

00:14:39.960 before I get to my commentary.

00:14:43.100 An ex-GOP congressional aide

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00:14:48.900 So she was found by police

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00:14:56.720 Trump whore 1.00

00:14:58.400 carved across her body. 1.00

00:15:00.880 Trump whore. 1.00

00:15:01.660 And she was zip tied 1.00

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00:15:04.040 I think,

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00:15:05.240 but still,

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00:15:11.520 because she's a Trump supporter.

00:15:13.240 She's worked

00:15:13.760 for a Republican member

00:15:15.200 of Congress.

00:15:15.580 I think she's a law student now.

00:15:17.560 And it turns out

00:15:18.900 she did it herself.

00:15:21.180 They found zip ties

00:15:22.720 in her car.

00:15:23.360 I think she was driving

00:15:23.840 a Maserati.

00:15:24.620 I think that was

00:15:24.980 in some of the reporting.

00:15:26.160 And she paid

00:15:28.100 500 bucks

00:15:28.940 to a fetish artist

00:15:30.480 to carve her up.

00:15:32.280 She's a very pretty girl,

00:15:33.700 beautiful girl.

00:15:34.700 And she's now like

00:15:35.760 probably permanently

00:15:37.380 mutilated herself

00:15:38.760 for this hate.

00:15:40.620 So all of the hate hoaxes

00:15:42.800 in our lifetimes,

00:15:43.960 virtually all of them,

00:15:44.720 have come from the left.

00:15:46.440 You know,

00:15:46.620 it's Jussie Smollett.

00:15:48.220 You know,

00:15:48.500 he's walking around

00:15:49.360 just trying to eat

00:15:49.780 a Subway sandwich

00:15:50.360 and then a bunch 0.99

00:15:51.860 of Nigerian white supremacists 0.98

00:15:53.300 come up and say

00:15:54.420 it's MAGA country.

00:15:55.940 They're calling this woman

00:15:57.320 Hussie Smollett,

00:15:58.280 which is not very nice, 0.96

00:15:59.260 but I'm a sucker

00:15:59.700 for a good pun.

00:16:00.720 And it's really bizarre.

00:16:02.620 It's coming from the right.

00:16:04.400 And I don't,

00:16:05.820 part of my instinct,

00:16:06.820 you know how much

00:16:07.320 I love women? 1.00

00:16:07.920 Part of my instinct is,

00:16:08.860 man, 1.00

00:16:09.180 women are crazier 1.00

00:16:10.080 than I thought they were. 1.00

00:16:11.160 I don't know.

00:16:12.340 What am I to make

00:16:13.660 of this, Lila?

00:16:15.460 I think you're right.

00:16:16.780 They are crazy today.

00:16:18.220 I mean,

00:16:18.900 we always have

00:16:20.280 the tendency to be crazy,

00:16:21.580 but the girls today 0.98

00:16:22.560 are not okay.

00:16:23.660 That is an objective reality.

00:16:25.700 And this is an example of it,

00:16:27.720 and it is happening

00:16:28.400 on both the right

00:16:29.160 and the left.

00:16:29.820 In this case,

00:16:30.480 I think it's the

00:16:31.320 extreme attention seeking

00:16:33.300 that many young women

00:16:34.500 are being,

00:16:35.700 just from a very young age,

00:16:37.880 they are being formed

00:16:38.940 that this is the way

00:16:39.760 they should be.

00:16:40.540 I mean,

00:16:40.680 think about social media,

00:16:41.740 what it does

00:16:42.200 to the female psyche.

00:16:44.000 It's like constant comparison,

00:16:45.540 constant attention,

00:16:46.600 constant making yourself,

00:16:48.300 putting yourself out there 0.56

00:16:49.340 via sexualization. 0.98

00:16:50.640 I mean,

00:16:51.160 the issue of OnlyFans today

00:16:52.760 is obviously horrific,

00:16:54.140 young girls

00:16:54.580 prostituting themselves. 0.59

00:16:56.280 But in this case,

00:16:57.280 what you're seeing too,

00:16:58.380 Michael,

00:16:58.660 which is really interesting here,

00:16:59.960 is really people

00:17:01.180 trying to cash in

00:17:02.320 on being right-leaning

00:17:03.780 or conservative

00:17:04.760 or Trump-supporting

00:17:06.120 and making that their brand

00:17:07.760 and then obviously

00:17:08.580 doing their own

00:17:09.340 narcissistic spin on it,

00:17:10.480 in this case with this girl,

00:17:11.440 this horrific self-harm

00:17:12.720 narcissistic spin

00:17:13.720 where she's,

00:17:14.880 you know,

00:17:15.300 literally injuring herself

00:17:16.560 to get attention.

00:17:17.960 And that's what this is.

00:17:18.520 She's injuring herself 0.95

00:17:19.300 to get attention.

00:17:20.260 But it shows a culture shift

00:17:21.660 because now

00:17:22.340 it's actually popular

00:17:23.620 to be on the right

00:17:24.380 and she's almost

00:17:24.980 leaning into it

00:17:25.840 to say,

00:17:26.200 well,

00:17:26.340 I'm being hurt for it,

00:17:27.620 but it's actually part

00:17:28.340 of some sort of

00:17:28.860 a status symbol for her.

00:17:30.380 So you could say

00:17:31.180 in one sense,

00:17:32.160 the one silver lining

00:17:33.280 of this story,

00:17:33.980 Michael,

00:17:34.260 if there is a silver lining,

00:17:36.020 is that now

00:17:36.660 it's mainstream

00:17:37.260 to be on the right.

00:17:39.280 It's much more mainstream

00:17:40.020 than it's ever been,

00:17:41.380 but this is how

00:17:42.120 we're going to use

00:17:42.620 and abuse that opportunity

00:17:44.180 and how this young woman is.

00:17:46.300 So the girls need help. 1.00

00:17:47.620 I'm working on it,

00:17:48.380 Michael.

00:17:48.720 We're trying to help

00:17:49.600 these girls, 1.00

00:17:50.260 but it's rough out there

00:17:51.780 because between social media,

00:17:53.360 mental health issues,

00:17:54.260 the spiritual crisis,

00:17:55.760 the self-obsession

00:17:57.020 is at an all-time high

00:17:58.420 and dealing with that

00:18:00.300 is a very complicated problem.

00:18:02.360 It's very tough,

00:18:03.340 but it's doable.

00:18:04.360 It's possible.

00:18:05.200 We're going to win this,

00:18:05.760 but it's going to take some time.

00:18:06.980 I'm so glad

00:18:08.020 you mentioned

00:18:08.580 the silver lining

00:18:09.300 because I didn't want

00:18:10.020 to be the one to say it,

00:18:11.180 but I did have

00:18:12.120 the same reaction.

00:18:14.000 And you put it

00:18:15.220 in really clear terms.

00:18:16.800 The girl committed self-harm

00:18:19.560 to get attention,

00:18:21.260 which is a tale

00:18:22.240 as old as time.

00:18:23.060 That actually is something

00:18:24.340 that teenage girls 0.94

00:18:26.000 and young 20s girls 0.64

00:18:27.740 have done for a long time.

00:18:29.380 What makes this weird,

00:18:31.000 well,

00:18:31.520 one is the extreme lengths

00:18:33.120 she went to,

00:18:33.760 but actually what is weirder is

00:18:36.220 this always comes

00:18:37.700 from the left. 0.96

00:18:38.360 It's always a black girl 1.00

00:18:40.600 saying white supremacists 0.98

00:18:41.980 attacked her

00:18:42.660 and it never happened

00:18:43.580 or it's a girl

00:18:45.120 saying some man attacked her

00:18:46.140 and it didn't happen

00:18:46.720 or because of toxic masculinity

00:18:49.340 or whatever

00:18:49.700 or it's a Democrat,

00:18:52.500 it's Jussie Smollett

00:18:53.360 saying white supremacists

00:18:56.100 came in the south side

00:18:57.020 of Chicago

00:18:57.420 and took my subway sandwich

00:18:58.460 because it's MAGA country.

00:18:59.840 We never,

00:19:00.680 we never see this

00:19:01.860 from the right.

00:19:02.840 And to me,

00:19:04.020 it's the same silver lining

00:19:06.300 of the most recent season

00:19:07.380 of South Park.

00:19:08.680 Some conservatives

00:19:09.860 took it in good fun.

00:19:11.000 I think Charlie Kirk

00:19:11.560 who was parodied on it,

00:19:12.640 he took it in good fun.

00:19:13.960 But some conservatives

00:19:15.660 said why is South Park

00:19:16.940 going after the right now?

00:19:18.600 And I thought,

00:19:19.340 well,

00:19:20.000 it's actually a nice thing

00:19:20.820 because South Park

00:19:21.920 always goes after the regime.

00:19:23.800 And so when the regime

00:19:24.700 was woke,

00:19:25.440 they went after woke

00:19:26.260 and they had PC principle.

00:19:27.240 When the regime was run

00:19:30.000 by just kind of libs,

00:19:31.460 they went after the libs

00:19:32.540 and Al Gore

00:19:33.200 and ManBearPig.

00:19:35.700 And now the right

00:19:38.560 kind of has political power

00:19:40.320 basically for the first time

00:19:42.500 in my life.

00:19:43.240 It has real institutional,

00:19:45.060 cultural,

00:19:45.880 popular political power.

00:19:47.900 I guess that's a good thing.

00:19:49.900 I want to actually,

00:19:50.340 I want to get your take

00:19:50.920 on the sort of self-obsession here.

00:19:53.480 Did you see this woman

00:19:54.480 who just went viral on TikTok

00:19:56.620 for promoting her childless,

00:19:59.920 for those who haven't seen it,

00:20:01.140 here she is.

00:20:05.140 If you're only listening,

00:20:06.260 it says,

00:20:06.460 things that just make sense

00:20:07.780 in my child-free life.

00:20:10.060 Sleeping in as long as I want.

00:20:12.080 Coffee breaks in peace.

00:20:15.200 Disposable income.

00:20:18.080 She has like weird sculptures,

00:20:20.740 hand sculpture.

00:20:22.480 Always quiet.

00:20:24.080 Candles as plants.

00:20:25.100 Watching cartoons

00:20:28.940 because I want to.

00:20:29.960 Oh my goodness.

00:20:32.140 Never missing a brunch.

00:20:34.020 Never missing a brunch

00:20:34.960 because my time is all mine.

00:20:37.620 My time is all mine.

00:20:39.420 She's having some like 0.99

00:20:40.500 corpse reviver

00:20:41.120 or some kind of brunchy drink.

00:20:44.860 Lila, your take?

00:20:47.200 I mean,

00:20:47.820 if you want to eat

00:20:48.260 at McDonald's every day

00:20:49.340 and never have the experience

00:20:50.900 of going to a steakhouse,

00:20:52.020 I mean,

00:20:52.300 it's even,

00:20:52.800 that's not even the best comparison

00:20:54.040 because you can't compare anything

00:20:55.620 to family and love

00:20:56.640 and relationships and children.

00:20:57.900 There's just,

00:20:58.340 there's no comparison.

00:20:59.460 It's a new horizon of joy,

00:21:01.140 a new horizon of meeting,

00:21:02.580 a new horizon of responsibility,

00:21:04.660 100%.

00:21:05.560 But the level of superficiality

00:21:08.380 that this woman

00:21:09.540 is celebrating

00:21:10.700 as some sort of

00:21:11.900 advantage to her, 0.81

00:21:13.380 as some sort of,

00:21:14.180 you know,

00:21:14.440 amazing opportunity

00:21:15.600 that she has,

00:21:16.560 it's quite frankly

00:21:17.740 depressing and sad to see.

00:21:19.800 And it's back to

00:21:20.340 what we were talking about earlier,

00:21:21.180 Michael,

00:21:21.680 the girls are not okay.

00:21:23.120 And this girl

00:21:23.820 is her whole identity

00:21:24.800 is making videos now

00:21:26.020 for TikTok

00:21:26.500 and going to brunches.

00:21:28.520 Newsflash,

00:21:29.080 when you're a mother,

00:21:29.920 when you're a wife, 0.89

00:21:30.520 you can still go to brunch.

00:21:31.760 You can still watch cartoons

00:21:33.040 with your kids.

00:21:34.180 You can still do

00:21:35.000 virtually everything

00:21:35.800 in her video,

00:21:36.720 except now you're surrounded

00:21:37.780 by human love.

00:21:39.180 You have someone

00:21:40.220 that you're loving

00:21:41.040 and being loved by

00:21:41.900 as opposed to

00:21:42.640 being alone

00:21:44.120 and ultimately,

00:21:45.220 I think miserable.

00:21:46.000 When people are alone,

00:21:47.360 the social data shows

00:21:48.400 people get miserable.

00:21:49.660 So I feel bad for her.

00:21:51.180 But this is a trend.

00:21:52.240 And again,

00:21:52.700 it's TikTok likes.

00:21:53.560 That's what this is about.

00:21:54.520 Literally,

00:21:54.880 it's a TikTok video.

00:21:56.060 And she's not going to be happy.

00:21:57.420 She's going to probably

00:21:57.820 look back on this in 10 years

00:21:58.940 or 15 years

00:22:00.440 and say,

00:22:00.780 oh my gosh,

00:22:01.340 I can't have children anymore.

00:22:02.740 And this is happening

00:22:03.360 to so many women today.

00:22:04.680 I can't have children anymore.

00:22:05.700 What did I do with my life?

00:22:07.080 This is what struck me.

00:22:08.260 It was how TikTok-y it is

00:22:09.980 and how on the nose it is.

00:22:12.980 Like when I,

00:22:13.700 when people write in,

00:22:14.560 they say,

00:22:14.800 should I have kids?

00:22:15.280 Should I get married?

00:22:15.760 Whatever.

00:22:15.960 I say,

00:22:16.480 yeah,

00:22:16.920 you should.

00:22:17.420 Because at a certain point,

00:22:18.440 brunch just doesn't hit

00:22:19.700 the same way it did

00:22:21.240 10 years ago.

00:22:22.080 And she uses that example. 0.87

00:22:24.240 She goes,

00:22:24.500 but I love brunch.

00:22:25.900 And I said,

00:22:26.380 no,

00:22:26.540 brunch is great,

00:22:27.500 man.

00:22:27.640 Go to brunch with your kids.

00:22:29.120 Yeah,

00:22:29.500 you can go to brunch

00:22:30.060 with your kids.

00:22:30.820 Listen,

00:22:31.060 I've brunched

00:22:31.520 with the best of them.

00:22:32.360 I used to do those

00:22:33.240 boozy brunches, 1.00

00:22:34.460 bottle of champagne

00:22:35.500 to a man.

00:22:36.640 Look,

00:22:37.020 they're fun,

00:22:37.780 but they're less

00:22:39.240 and less fun over time.

00:22:40.240 She says,

00:22:40.500 I have disposable income.

00:22:41.380 And then she points

00:22:42.440 at really kitschy

00:22:44.760 kind of ugly art.

00:22:46.120 I don't mean to

00:22:46.760 knock her taste, 1.00

00:22:47.560 but it's like,

00:22:48.260 it's not even,

00:22:49.620 you're not even using

00:22:50.520 your disposable income

00:22:51.300 in a good way.

00:22:51.920 You're not even using

00:22:52.540 your leisure time

00:22:53.260 in a good way.

00:22:53.960 And I guess what hits me

00:22:55.100 about it,

00:22:55.540 because plenty of women 1.00

00:22:56.740 can't have kids,

00:22:57.540 plenty of couples

00:22:58.020 struggle with infertility.

00:22:59.440 There are women 0.98

00:23:00.040 who want to get married

00:23:00.860 who don't get married

00:23:01.820 and it just doesn't

00:23:02.760 work out for them.

00:23:03.560 And that's a fact

00:23:04.220 of the fallen world.

00:23:05.080 It doesn't happen a ton.

00:23:06.800 It's not super widespread,

00:23:07.620 though it's increasingly

00:23:08.660 a problem,

00:23:09.200 but that's a fact.

00:23:11.060 And I was trying to think,

00:23:11.920 okay,

00:23:12.040 well,

00:23:12.320 what is the difference

00:23:14.120 between those,

00:23:14.640 let's say,

00:23:15.560 a couple that can't have kids

00:23:16.540 or a woman who

00:23:18.080 she really wants

00:23:18.720 to get married

00:23:19.260 and she's tried everything

00:23:20.480 she can possibly try

00:23:21.320 and it just,

00:23:22.120 for whatever reason,

00:23:22.720 it just hasn't worked out.

00:23:23.760 What's the difference

00:23:24.380 between that woman 0.59

00:23:25.300 who will be alone

00:23:27.360 for a lot of time

00:23:28.000 in her apartment

00:23:28.480 and the woman on TikTok?

00:23:31.100 And it seems to me

00:23:31.960 the difference is

00:23:32.880 the self-obsession.

00:23:35.660 Everything that woman

00:23:36.860 talked about

00:23:37.680 was about her.

00:23:39.420 Yes.

00:23:41.460 There's no soup kitchens

00:23:42.580 in this video.

00:23:43.800 There's no,

00:23:44.360 I'm helping my little nieces

00:23:46.200 and nephews on the weekend

00:23:47.040 because you can be

00:23:47.840 a single woman

00:23:48.480 or a single man

00:23:49.480 and live a beautiful,

00:23:50.980 meaningful life.

00:23:51.580 And you can actually

00:23:52.200 have a vocation

00:23:53.040 to celibacy even

00:23:54.300 where you don't have

00:23:55.720 biological children 0.86

00:23:56.680 or maybe you struggle

00:23:57.800 with infertility

00:23:58.540 and you're not able

00:23:59.240 to have biological children.

00:24:00.560 You can still live

00:24:01.000 an incredibly meaningful life,

00:24:02.200 but the common denominator

00:24:03.440 always is

00:24:04.640 human relationships.

00:24:06.520 It's always responsibility

00:24:07.740 for other people,

00:24:09.180 being loved by other people

00:24:10.600 and loving them back.

00:24:11.920 And if you don't have

00:24:12.560 that in your life,

00:24:13.140 you're a hedonist materialist 1.00

00:24:14.620 that is going to be miserable 0.99

00:24:16.140 on an eternal level.

00:24:18.340 And that's what,

00:24:19.100 this is eternal consequences

00:24:20.520 for this.

00:24:21.080 And so that's why it's serious.

00:24:21.980 We can laugh about a TikTok video,

00:24:23.540 but it's a serious

00:24:24.340 spiritual sickness and crisis

00:24:26.000 which needs people

00:24:27.340 to be waking up from

00:24:28.760 by saying,

00:24:29.340 you're not going to be happy

00:24:30.240 like this

00:24:30.880 and look at what

00:24:31.720 you're missing out on.

00:24:33.060 Yes.

00:24:33.480 It will rob you

00:24:34.800 of all the joys.

00:24:35.820 It will put you

00:24:36.400 in a temporal,

00:24:37.040 if not an eternal hell,

00:24:38.660 but you will get

00:24:40.620 as many mimosas

00:24:41.760 as you want.

00:24:42.480 So, you know,

00:24:42.920 you're kind of like on one.

00:24:44.300 I still go to brunch

00:24:45.040 with my kids, okay?

00:24:46.240 So I don't buy the whole

00:24:47.460 brunch is impossible

00:24:48.420 with kids.

00:24:49.600 That's true.

00:24:50.400 You could do it.

00:24:52.340 You should,

00:24:52.820 I would say,

00:24:53.460 I would recommend drinking

00:24:54.180 less than a bottle

00:24:54.900 of champagne per minute,

00:24:55.780 but you can still get

00:24:56.460 half a bottle in.

00:24:57.240 It's fine.

00:24:57.720 Especially if the diner

00:24:58.500 is close by.

00:24:59.560 Lila, marvelous to see you

00:25:00.480 as always.

00:25:01.440 Just a reminder,

00:25:02.060 you do a billion,

00:25:03.000 a billion different things,

00:25:04.260 obviously with live action,

00:25:05.200 with the podcast,

00:25:05.700 but where can everyone

00:25:06.900 find you?

00:25:08.400 Thank you.

00:25:08.940 Well, liveaction.org

00:25:09.980 is our website

00:25:10.760 and the Lila Rose show

00:25:11.700 wherever you get

00:25:12.240 your podcasts.

00:25:13.180 Go do it.

00:25:14.020 Go do it right now, Lila.

00:25:15.260 Lovely to see you.

00:25:16.160 Thank you.

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00:26:17.580 Can't-a-w-l-a-s. 1.00

00:26:18.560 Shopify.com

00:26:19.300 slash Knowles.

00:26:20.440 That is

00:26:20.960 shopify.com

00:26:22.880 slash Knowles.

00:26:27.160 Speaking of young people

00:26:28.380 and speaking of children,

00:26:29.700 actually,

00:26:30.240 famous children,

00:26:31.900 Naylin Haley,

00:26:33.300 Nikki Haley's son,

00:26:34.420 just went on Tucker's show

00:26:35.720 and lit the internet on fire

00:26:37.780 because of this claim

00:26:40.140 that he made

00:26:41.220 about public office

00:26:43.020 and naturalized citizens.

00:26:46.080 And there's so many

00:26:47.180 different aspects

00:26:47.840 to immigration

00:26:48.800 that it's not just

00:26:49.880 the migration part of it,

00:26:51.580 but a lot of other things

00:26:52.960 that are just

00:26:53.500 out of control.

00:26:54.380 Like what?

00:26:55.120 So,

00:26:56.300 naturalized citizens

00:26:58.060 should not be able

00:26:58.820 to hold public office.

00:27:00.280 Growing up here

00:27:01.400 is a big part

00:27:01.960 of understanding

00:27:02.480 the country.

00:27:03.800 We need to stop

00:27:04.860 and limit

00:27:05.740 the amount of foreign students

00:27:06.840 that are coming

00:27:07.280 into our universities.

00:27:08.520 Some of them are spies,

00:27:09.440 by the way,

00:27:10.180 for foreign governments,

00:27:11.160 but it's also just

00:27:12.440 we should put our kids first.

00:27:13.900 And we should also

00:27:17.740 not allow dual citizenship 1.00

00:27:19.260 because that's the stupidest idea. 1.00

00:27:21.620 You're either American 1.00

00:27:22.700 or you're not.

00:27:24.020 And everyone wants

00:27:24.980 to make it so complicated.

00:27:26.140 That's the thing

00:27:26.640 that I don't like

00:27:27.260 about the past generation

00:27:28.100 is they're always about

00:27:28.720 the rules,

00:27:29.340 the process,

00:27:30.240 and regulation.

00:27:31.360 No,

00:27:31.500 it's really simple.

00:27:32.500 You're just America first. 0.92

00:27:34.240 People should have their loyalty

00:27:35.220 to America first.

00:27:36.680 And if they can't do that,

00:27:37.940 then this ain't the country

00:27:38.500 for you.

00:27:39.860 This is a really important,

00:27:41.580 broad political point.

00:27:42.960 And I know there are

00:27:43.440 going to be a bunch of people

00:27:44.360 who are going to find exceptions

00:27:46.040 and they're going to say,

00:27:47.000 oh, well,

00:27:47.560 you know,

00:27:47.960 I've got Italian citizenship

00:27:49.880 because of my grandparents.

00:27:51.820 And it doesn't mean

00:27:52.620 I'm loyal to Italy

00:27:54.000 or whatever.

00:27:54.780 I came from another country

00:27:56.120 and they won't let me

00:27:56.560 renounce my citizenship.

00:27:57.300 Okay, yeah, sure.

00:27:58.000 There are all sorts of exceptions.

00:27:59.260 No one denies it.

00:28:00.220 But what about

00:28:02.040 the broader political point

00:28:03.440 he's making?

00:28:05.000 What he is saying,

00:28:06.480 even go back,

00:28:06.980 I felt the first point

00:28:07.900 was even stronger.

00:28:08.980 When he says

00:28:09.600 naturalized citizens

00:28:11.180 shouldn't hold public office.

00:28:12.480 Now, it might be difficult

00:28:13.700 to make that,

00:28:15.040 to make a case for that legally

00:28:16.800 or what, you know,

00:28:17.400 you could change laws, I guess.

00:28:18.760 The broader point

00:28:20.000 that he's saying is

00:28:21.040 citizenship,

00:28:22.740 true citizenship,

00:28:24.180 takes time.

00:28:25.940 It doesn't just happen overnight.

00:28:27.800 You don't come here

00:28:29.160 from some far-flung country

00:28:30.940 with a radically different culture,

00:28:32.580 with a radically different religion,

00:28:33.840 with radically different practices.

00:28:35.240 You don't just come here

00:28:36.560 and memorize a few facts

00:28:38.420 about American civics

00:28:39.440 and take the test,

00:28:40.620 raise your right hand,

00:28:41.360 and magically become

00:28:42.580 as American as apple pie.

00:28:44.780 That doesn't happen.

00:28:45.800 That's a very rationalist view.

00:28:47.400 That's a very liberal view.

00:28:48.880 That's a very abstract,

00:28:51.080 ideological view.

00:28:52.580 But it's not real.

00:28:54.340 It's not real.

00:28:55.540 Citizenship actually takes time.

00:28:57.880 It's not to say

00:28:58.760 that there is just something

00:28:59.640 magical in the blood

00:29:00.620 that makes a citizen,

00:29:01.540 that forecloses citizenship

00:29:03.760 to other people,

00:29:04.700 other peoples.

00:29:06.120 But it is to say

00:29:07.120 that citizenship takes time.

00:29:09.480 When you're here

00:29:10.340 for a long time,

00:29:12.020 two, three,

00:29:14.040 10, 12,

00:29:15.720 13 generations,

00:29:17.100 you're going to see

00:29:18.700 a difference

00:29:19.380 in culture,

00:29:22.840 in tradition,

00:29:24.020 in habit,

00:29:24.960 in attitude.

00:29:25.700 And you don't just

00:29:26.840 get that overnight.

00:29:28.240 It takes time.

00:29:29.560 What Nail and Haley

00:29:31.080 is pointing to here

00:29:32.240 is the fact that

00:29:33.440 politics is deeper

00:29:34.620 than just saying

00:29:35.840 a few words

00:29:36.620 or memorizing

00:29:37.420 a few facts.

00:29:38.560 Politics is deeper

00:29:39.560 than just assenting

00:29:41.080 to a few creedal abstractions.

00:29:44.080 And that's,

00:29:44.540 in recent decades,

00:29:45.720 we have reduced

00:29:46.840 citizenship to that.

00:29:49.140 America's just an idea. 0.94

00:29:51.900 And diversity is our strength.

00:29:54.080 And anyone can beat America.

00:29:55.160 That isn't true.

00:29:57.440 There's a creedal aspect

00:29:58.380 to the country

00:29:59.540 as there is

00:30:01.040 to most countries.

00:30:02.140 But it's more than that.

00:30:03.880 It's also geography.

00:30:05.020 It's also borders.

00:30:06.940 It's also habits.

00:30:08.580 It's also traditions.

00:30:09.460 It's also hot dogs

00:30:10.080 on the 4th of July.

00:30:10.940 And it's also people.

00:30:12.800 Okay?

00:30:14.060 The fact that we have

00:30:14.920 a great,

00:30:15.280 you know,

00:30:16.640 a great founding story

00:30:17.540 of America,

00:30:18.220 beginning with the Mayflower,

00:30:19.220 which is a terrific cigar brand.

00:30:20.760 And I think about,

00:30:21.640 okay,

00:30:21.820 so some of my ancestors

00:30:22.500 came on the Mayflower.

00:30:23.320 Some came on a sardine boat

00:30:24.220 from Sicily.

00:30:24.840 But some came on the Mayflower.

00:30:26.480 And some other English settlers

00:30:28.200 came a little bit later

00:30:29.560 in 1660.

00:30:31.440 You have John Knowles arrives.

00:30:33.360 The Knowles family home

00:30:34.660 stood in New Hampshire

00:30:36.200 from about 1660

00:30:38.360 until 1994

00:30:39.560 when it burned down.

00:30:41.700 Okay?

00:30:42.860 Centuries.

00:30:45.040 334 years,

00:30:46.040 by my count,

00:30:47.020 this home stood.

00:30:48.280 And when you're,

00:30:49.280 when you get that

00:30:49.920 into your bones,

00:30:50.740 when you get that

00:30:51.200 into your habit,

00:30:51.740 you just,

00:30:53.360 that will change you.

00:30:54.840 That will shape you

00:30:55.880 in a way

00:30:56.320 that arriving

00:30:57.180 off an airplane

00:30:58.060 from Uganda

00:30:59.280 and learning

00:31:00.660 who George Washington is

00:31:01.880 and answering

00:31:02.960 a few simple questions

00:31:03.900 on a test

00:31:04.360 is not going to make

00:31:05.240 you an American.

00:31:06.060 And what he's saying

00:31:06.880 is that the people

00:31:08.180 who just got here

00:31:09.000 probably shouldn't be

00:31:09.800 the ones in office.

00:31:10.620 And that's obviously true.

00:31:13.020 That's obviously true.

00:31:15.040 Maybe there,

00:31:15.800 maybe there are some exceptions.

00:31:16.980 Maybe a blue blood

00:31:18.120 is really bad for office

00:31:19.420 and maybe some guy

00:31:20.560 who got here

00:31:21.120 is the exception

00:31:21.680 that proves the rule.

00:31:22.280 But the rule stands

00:31:23.080 nevertheless.

00:31:24.080 And on the point

00:31:24.700 of dual loyalty,

00:31:25.700 this is just a problem

00:31:26.680 of nationalism,

00:31:28.640 of the Westphalian system.

00:31:30.360 Yes,

00:31:30.620 you cannot simultaneously

00:31:32.040 be equally loyal

00:31:34.020 to two things

00:31:34.960 of the same kind.

00:31:36.280 It's just not possible.

00:31:38.380 You can be loyal

00:31:39.720 to two things

00:31:40.600 of different kinds.

00:31:41.700 I can have a loyalty

00:31:42.540 to my Mayflower cigars

00:31:44.820 and a loyalty

00:31:45.440 to my comfy sweaters.

00:31:46.540 By the way,

00:31:46.860 we're going to have

00:31:47.140 a new sweater

00:31:47.580 I'm debuting

00:31:48.120 in the Membrum Segmentum,

00:31:49.100 so stay tuned for that.

00:31:49.980 Because those are things

00:31:50.800 of different kinds.

00:31:52.280 But I can't be equally loyal

00:31:53.400 to the United States

00:31:54.300 and the United Kingdom.

00:31:55.860 I can have great affection

00:31:56.880 for the United Kingdom.

00:31:57.760 I can have great affection

00:31:58.480 for Italy

00:31:58.940 as an ancestral home.

00:32:00.360 But no,

00:32:01.640 the two things

00:32:02.020 are the same kind.

00:32:02.500 You have to have

00:32:03.780 your loyalty

00:32:04.220 chiefly to one

00:32:05.560 of those things.

00:32:06.540 That's just how it works.

00:32:08.680 And it's great

00:32:10.440 in the case of

00:32:11.120 Nalen Haley

00:32:11.960 because he is the,

00:32:14.660 what,

00:32:15.060 grandchild of immigrants.

00:32:16.860 So he's saying,

00:32:17.360 look,

00:32:17.520 I'm speaking

00:32:17.880 from experience here.

00:32:18.820 You know,

00:32:19.220 I think that

00:32:20.560 it takes some time.

00:32:21.400 And,

00:32:22.420 you know,

00:32:23.180 you develop more

00:32:24.200 American habits over time.

00:32:25.420 So really great point.

00:32:26.620 Even if

00:32:27.640 one can't quite implement

00:32:30.040 the particulars

00:32:30.820 of the things

00:32:31.240 he's talking about,

00:32:32.080 at the broader point

00:32:33.060 of political philosophy

00:32:33.780 and citizenship,

00:32:34.560 he's making a very,

00:32:36.180 very important argument

00:32:37.220 that previously

00:32:38.200 would have been considered

00:32:38.960 totally common sense.

00:32:40.300 Okay,

00:32:40.540 speaking of identity politics,

00:32:41.820 this is another insane story

00:32:43.620 that everyone just knows.

00:32:46.080 They all,

00:32:46.820 everyone knew

00:32:47.560 that the Somalis

00:32:48.380 in Minnesota

00:32:48.900 were scheming

00:32:49.640 and defrauding people.

00:32:50.920 We all knew it.

00:32:51.640 Now we have proof.

00:32:53.020 And everyone knew

00:32:54.940 that Capitol Hill staffers 0.99

00:32:56.740 are completely insane. 0.99

00:32:57.680 We all knew that. 0.98

00:32:58.220 In fact,

00:32:58.320 I think that woman 1.00

00:32:58.960 who chopped herself up,

00:33:00.440 I think that she might be

00:33:01.480 the least psychotic

00:33:02.920 Capitol Hill staffer,

00:33:04.680 Washington,

00:33:05.060 D.C. staffer.

00:33:05.720 We all knew it.

00:33:06.320 Now we have some proof.

00:33:07.100 Here,

00:33:08.380 we now have

00:33:09.620 a really important thread.

00:33:10.580 This was posted

00:33:11.020 by uncorrelated underscore

00:33:13.220 who went through

00:33:15.060 a meme that you see.

00:33:15.980 And the meme is

00:33:16.700 you look into

00:33:17.340 crime databases

00:33:18.920 and you see,

00:33:20.260 you know,

00:33:20.620 name,

00:33:21.760 Jose,

00:33:22.760 age,

00:33:23.440 29,

00:33:24.920 race,

00:33:26.080 white.

00:33:27.000 And you see the picture

00:33:27.840 and it's like

00:33:28.560 the most Latino looking guy

00:33:29.760 you ever saw

00:33:30.180 in your entire life.

00:33:31.640 You know,

00:33:31.940 face tatted up,

00:33:33.120 Venezuelan.

00:33:34.100 But it's ethnicity,

00:33:35.540 white,

00:33:36.100 race,

00:33:36.700 white,

00:33:36.940 or whatever.

00:33:38.540 And you see this a lot

00:33:39.600 anecdotally.

00:33:40.600 So,

00:33:41.340 this account posts,

00:33:42.600 white by default,

00:33:43.180 the viral posts were right.

00:33:44.360 We scraped five and a half

00:33:45.420 million criminal records

00:33:46.360 and one and a half million

00:33:47.240 mugshots from 39 states.

00:33:49.640 29% of Hispanics

00:33:51.440 are being misclassified

00:33:52.940 as white

00:33:53.620 in official

00:33:54.720 Department of Corrections

00:33:55.660 databases.

00:33:57.420 The thread goes on.

00:33:58.580 Everyone's seen

00:33:59.120 the collages.

00:33:59.880 The problem is

00:34:00.420 it's anecdotal,

00:34:01.140 cherry picked,

00:34:01.660 no way to verify.

00:34:02.540 So,

00:34:02.740 we had one and a half

00:34:03.580 million mugshots,

00:34:04.340 names,

00:34:04.560 and official racial

00:34:05.560 classifications.

00:34:06.340 Time to test it

00:34:07.000 systematically.

00:34:08.100 And once this

00:34:09.320 individual ran

00:34:11.180 these numbers,

00:34:12.060 according to this guy's

00:34:12.920 analysis,

00:34:13.380 correcting for

00:34:14.940 misclassification, 0.76

00:34:16.320 Hispanic criminal 1.00

00:34:17.700 record rates

00:34:18.480 increase

00:34:19.200 by 20 to 31%. 0.99

00:34:21.600 White criminal 0.99

00:34:23.880 record rates

00:34:24.540 decrease

00:34:25.240 by 4 to 6%.

00:34:26.780 Black crime rates 1.00

00:34:28.900 decrease

00:34:29.580 by 1%.

00:34:30.420 So,

00:34:31.380 the black rates 0.92

00:34:31.920 remain basically

00:34:32.600 the same.

00:34:33.520 The white rates 1.00

00:34:34.300 significantly decrease

00:34:35.860 and the Hispanic rates

00:34:36.980 very,

00:34:37.940 very significantly

00:34:38.600 increase.

00:34:40.380 Why is this

00:34:41.080 happening?

00:34:42.020 There's going to be

00:34:42.640 some pedantic person

00:34:43.380 that says,

00:34:43.980 well,

00:34:44.240 you know,

00:34:44.520 actually,

00:34:45.820 it's because race

00:34:46.800 and ethnicity

00:34:47.220 are different things.

00:34:48.160 And actually,

00:34:48.600 there are many

00:34:48.920 Hispanic people

00:34:49.580 who identify

00:34:50.220 as white.

00:34:50.940 And obviously,

00:34:51.740 there are some

00:34:52.480 Hispanic people

00:34:53.020 who are much

00:34:53.380 whiter and others

00:34:54.080 who are a little

00:34:54.580 darker and others 0.61

00:34:55.280 who have more

00:34:55.700 of an admixture 0.55

00:34:56.180 of the indigenous

00:34:56.720 people.

00:34:57.120 And so,

00:34:57.360 there's actually,

00:34:57.880 I mean,

00:34:58.000 yeah,

00:34:58.160 yeah,

00:34:58.320 yeah,

00:34:58.500 yeah.

00:35:00.600 But that's not

00:35:02.180 meaningful in the

00:35:03.340 American context.

00:35:04.560 In the American

00:35:05.460 context,

00:35:06.080 when we're trying

00:35:06.760 to get down to

00:35:07.660 different ethnic

00:35:08.760 or racial enclaves,

00:35:09.860 different cultural

00:35:11.060 groupings,

00:35:12.340 when we're trying

00:35:12.960 to get to the

00:35:13.680 heart of the

00:35:14.020 matter,

00:35:15.820 no one thinks

00:35:16.840 that white 0.95

00:35:18.040 and Hispanic

00:35:18.680 mean the same

00:35:19.240 thing.

00:35:20.460 No one thinks

00:35:21.500 that white 0.95

00:35:22.300 and black

00:35:22.680 mean the same

00:35:23.140 thing or Hispanic

00:35:23.740 and black

00:35:24.020 mean the same

00:35:24.400 thing.

00:35:24.680 We know what

00:35:27.280 you're doing

00:35:27.880 when you are

00:35:29.120 misclassified.

00:35:29.700 Because the

00:35:30.260 misclassifications

00:35:31.200 only seem to go

00:35:32.180 in one direction.

00:35:33.240 And the point,

00:35:33.920 obviously,

00:35:34.420 is to avoid

00:35:36.440 the politically

00:35:36.940 incorrect fact

00:35:37.760 that white 0.99

00:35:38.340 people commit

00:35:38.900 relatively little

00:35:39.740 crime,

00:35:40.300 especially relatively

00:35:40.900 little violent

00:35:41.380 crime.

00:35:42.720 And other

00:35:44.020 racial groups

00:35:44.760 commit a

00:35:45.880 significantly

00:35:46.320 higher proportion

00:35:47.720 of violent

00:35:48.080 crime.

00:35:48.580 And that's

00:35:49.220 politically

00:35:49.500 incorrect because

00:35:50.580 we're not

00:35:52.360 supposed to say

00:35:53.060 that white 0.95

00:35:53.940 people have

00:35:56.260 an advantage

00:35:56.760 at any kind

00:35:57.500 of social

00:35:57.840 outcome.

00:35:58.880 Or if they

00:35:59.640 do,

00:35:59.920 it's the

00:36:00.320 result of

00:36:00.780 some terrible

00:36:01.280 system of

00:36:01.780 oppression or

00:36:02.300 whatever.

00:36:02.540 And it's

00:36:03.740 just icky and

00:36:04.500 it's called

00:36:04.900 racist.

00:36:05.440 It's like a

00:36:06.040 racist fact or

00:36:06.780 something.

00:36:07.360 But I guess

00:36:08.020 the rejoinder to

00:36:09.060 this is,

00:36:10.060 if you actually

00:36:11.600 love people and

00:36:13.580 you want to

00:36:14.440 help them and

00:36:14.880 you want them

00:36:15.260 to improve,

00:36:16.520 the first thing

00:36:17.740 you have to do

00:36:18.200 is acknowledge

00:36:18.760 reality.

00:36:19.880 So, if there's

00:36:21.400 a particular

00:36:22.400 problem with 0.97

00:36:22.840 black crime, 0.99

00:36:23.660 which obviously

00:36:24.200 there is,

00:36:25.280 or in this

00:36:26.000 case, what

00:36:26.360 we're talking

00:36:26.660 about, if

00:36:27.040 there is a

00:36:27.640 serious problem 0.99

00:36:28.740 with Hispanic

00:36:29.440 crime,

00:36:31.120 problems that

00:36:31.920 you don't

00:36:32.400 see when it

00:36:33.200 comes to

00:36:33.460 white people,

00:36:34.280 then the

00:36:35.260 first step to

00:36:36.040 helping them

00:36:37.060 to fixing the

00:36:37.900 problem, and

00:36:38.960 don't forget,

00:36:39.560 we punish

00:36:40.440 evildoers not

00:36:42.080 only to protect

00:36:42.820 the innocent,

00:36:43.500 but also to

00:36:44.500 help the

00:36:45.440 evildoers.

00:36:46.880 Because it 0.80

00:36:48.000 harms you when

00:36:48.980 you do evil

00:36:49.680 things.

00:36:50.600 This is an

00:36:50.980 observation that

00:36:51.620 goes back to

00:36:52.300 Plato and the

00:36:53.480 Gorgias.

00:36:54.120 This is an

00:36:54.620 observation that

00:36:55.480 goes back to

00:36:56.640 the Bible.

00:37:00.200 It helps the

00:37:01.600 guilty to be

00:37:02.380 punished.

00:37:03.600 If you want

00:37:04.000 to help them,

00:37:04.960 you have to

00:37:05.500 acknowledge reality.

00:37:07.360 And so much

00:37:08.180 of, I think,

00:37:08.780 what undergirds

00:37:09.460 modern leftism,

00:37:10.700 all the way up

00:37:11.480 to the

00:37:11.700 transgender

00:37:12.080 ideology,

00:37:12.740 maybe that's a

00:37:13.180 special example,

00:37:14.380 is that they

00:37:16.020 believe that

00:37:16.640 lies are

00:37:17.540 helpful and

00:37:18.340 good and

00:37:18.720 nice, and

00:37:19.640 that the

00:37:19.940 truth is

00:37:20.420 cruel, and

00:37:21.120 that you

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00:39:12.520 My favorite

00:39:13.240 comment yesterday

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00:39:14.040 Kauskualdoas.

00:39:16.460 What a name.

00:39:17.160 It says, let me

00:39:17.620 guess, Chicago

00:39:18.200 man is code for

00:39:19.060 like youth or

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00:39:20.500 this point.

00:39:20.900 Yeah, a little

00:39:21.640 euphemistic, I

00:39:22.720 suppose.

00:39:24.120 Finally, finally,

00:39:24.820 we've arrived at my

00:39:25.400 favorite time of the

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00:39:32.780 Hey, Michael.

00:39:33.380 I haven't really

00:39:34.100 planned this

00:39:34.780 question, just

00:39:35.620 shooting from the

00:39:36.080 hip here.

00:39:36.580 So you talked

00:39:37.140 today about how

00:39:39.340 marriages have

00:39:40.140 really fallen in

00:39:42.140 the sense of being

00:39:43.180 able to break

00:39:44.420 apart from them

00:39:45.500 and divorce at 0.80

00:39:46.740 will without any

00:39:47.940 cause.

00:39:48.440 Do you think that

00:39:50.180 would change or do

00:39:50.840 you think there

00:39:51.160 would be a thing

00:39:51.660 where like normal

00:39:53.500 couples like us

00:39:54.560 have go into like a

00:39:57.600 prenup agreement but

00:39:58.500 in the opposite way

00:39:59.340 where they make it

00:40:00.440 really impossible to

00:40:02.600 get divorced because

00:40:05.300 of how it's been

00:40:07.480 made now.

00:40:09.460 Curious on what you

00:40:10.660 think the trend will

00:40:11.300 be as a father of

00:40:13.040 two beautiful little

00:40:14.740 girls and soon to be

00:40:16.160 three.

00:40:16.760 Thank you.

00:40:17.700 The trend will

00:40:18.400 follow.

00:40:18.900 It's a very good

00:40:19.300 question.

00:40:19.680 The trend will

00:40:20.100 follow whatever the

00:40:20.820 limits of the

00:40:21.300 political order are.

00:40:22.820 So what you're

00:40:23.680 describing is a kind

00:40:25.180 of private fix for a

00:40:27.980 public failure.

00:40:28.940 The public failure

00:40:29.780 being the

00:40:30.300 liberalization of

00:40:31.100 marriage, the

00:40:31.860 encouragement of

00:40:32.600 divorce, and the

00:40:36.480 subsequent collapse

00:40:37.220 in marriage rates.

00:40:38.120 And so the private

00:40:38.780 fix is, okay, well

00:40:40.080 we're going to

00:40:41.000 constrain people far

00:40:43.000 beyond the bounds of

00:40:44.160 the law and that's

00:40:45.120 not going to work.

00:40:46.420 It's not going to

00:40:47.220 work because ultimately

00:40:49.100 these matters will be

00:40:50.380 adjudicated by courts

00:40:51.460 and the courts will

00:40:52.100 defer to the public

00:40:52.980 law.

00:40:53.380 They won't honor the

00:40:55.400 private compacts or

00:40:57.140 contracts that you've

00:40:58.160 signed.

00:40:58.780 So there's no way out.

00:41:00.660 This is the conservative

00:41:03.920 and especially libertarian

00:41:05.120 instinct is to say,

00:41:05.980 well look, I don't want

00:41:06.620 to deal with all the 1.00

00:41:07.420 stupid politics. 1.00

00:41:08.220 I don't want to have to 1.00

00:41:08.840 run for office.

00:41:09.420 It's such a hassle.

00:41:10.100 I don't want to have to

00:41:11.340 deal with the extreme

00:41:13.260 TDM of trying to

00:41:14.160 pass laws and then

00:41:15.480 fight the bureaucrats

00:41:16.480 who don't want to

00:41:16.920 properly implement the

00:41:17.800 laws and I just don't

00:41:18.380 want to deal with it.

00:41:19.220 So I'm just going to

00:41:20.020 retreat to my own

00:41:20.920 little community and

00:41:22.440 my own smallest

00:41:23.280 community, my family,

00:41:24.260 and I'm just going to

00:41:24.760 try to have private

00:41:25.500 solutions.

00:41:26.060 I get the temptations

00:41:26.880 for all of that.

00:41:28.140 I work in the private

00:41:28.860 sector.

00:41:29.240 I get it.

00:41:30.680 Ultimately, that's not

00:41:31.480 going to work.

00:41:32.840 Ultimately, you have to

00:41:34.600 wield the political

00:41:35.320 order.

00:41:35.620 And so if the

00:41:36.400 political order

00:41:36.940 encourages divorce and

00:41:38.120 discourages marriage

00:41:38.920 as it currently does,

00:41:40.340 and the political

00:41:40.900 order now, in fact,

00:41:42.160 has abolished marriage

00:41:43.080 practically by

00:41:43.700 redefining it through

00:41:44.440 Obergefell, then you're

00:41:46.200 going to get less

00:41:46.880 marriage and you're 0.88

00:41:47.600 going to get more

00:41:47.820 divorce.

00:41:48.720 Or you're going to

00:41:49.040 get a lot of divorce

00:41:49.860 at least.

00:41:50.240 The trends will go up

00:41:50.960 and down.

00:41:51.720 But if you have a

00:41:52.800 political order that

00:41:53.360 encourages marriage and

00:41:54.340 discourages divorce,

00:41:56.140 then you're going to

00:41:56.620 get more marriage and 0.97

00:41:57.220 less divorce.

00:41:57.680 That's how it works.

00:41:58.460 I've talked about the

00:41:59.280 Knowles prenup.

00:42:00.300 The Knowles prenup, it

00:42:01.140 says, before you get

00:42:02.280 married, you sign it.

00:42:03.020 It says, whichever party

00:42:04.360 institutes or initiates

00:42:05.700 the divorce forfeits

00:42:06.680 everything.

00:42:08.920 I like this in

00:42:09.880 principle, but probably

00:42:11.340 in most cases it would

00:42:12.280 not work because you're

00:42:14.560 going to, the judge is

00:42:15.960 always going to defer to

00:42:16.660 the liberal political

00:42:17.880 order.

00:42:18.500 And, you know, in the

00:42:21.040 case of liberalism, it's

00:42:22.300 going to favor divorce.

00:42:23.560 That's just how it goes.

00:42:24.540 We have to fix that.

00:42:25.700 It's a political

00:42:26.140 problem.

00:42:26.620 Next question.

00:42:27.620 Hi, Michael.

00:42:28.300 Longtime listener, huge

00:42:29.620 fan, and I had a

00:42:30.500 question about health

00:42:31.220 care.

00:42:31.800 I have a lot of

00:42:32.520 experience with doctors

00:42:33.660 and hospitals since I'm

00:42:34.860 chronically ill.

00:42:36.000 I have health insurance,

00:42:37.020 but that's not the

00:42:37.820 problem.

00:42:38.280 The problem that I and

00:42:39.440 many people face is the

00:42:40.500 quality of the medical

00:42:41.320 system itself.

00:42:42.760 Medical malpractice and

00:42:43.820 physician error are

00:42:44.680 literally the third

00:42:45.660 leading cause of death

00:42:46.680 in America, and no one

00:42:47.860 ever talks about it.

00:42:49.200 Women's health care

00:42:49.740 specifically is horrible.

00:42:51.660 Every woman I know has 0.98

00:42:52.520 been dismissed and

00:42:53.300 mistreated by more

00:42:54.120 doctors than those that

00:42:55.040 actually cared.

00:42:56.240 Doctors don't run tests,

00:42:57.240 they don't do research,

00:42:58.080 they don't put care into

00:42:58.900 you, it's a revolving

00:42:59.820 door system, and it's

00:43:01.420 just hopeless.

00:43:02.900 My question for you is,

00:43:04.540 why is everyone on both

00:43:05.780 sides of the aisle

00:43:06.460 focused on the buzzword

00:43:07.700 health care, and yet no

00:43:09.080 one ever mentions the

00:43:09.940 horrible state of the

00:43:10.760 actual medical systems?

00:43:12.240 Why don't we see any

00:43:13.100 conservatives focusing on

00:43:14.240 this, giving it any

00:43:15.040 attention?

00:43:15.980 Is change even possible?

00:43:17.420 I'd love to know your

00:43:18.200 thoughts.

00:43:19.340 Yeah, really good

00:43:19.960 question.

00:43:20.560 It's because it's very,

00:43:22.080 very difficult.

00:43:24.180 And so for the left,

00:43:25.580 they focus really just on

00:43:27.360 medical insurance, or

00:43:28.760 government-backed

00:43:29.620 medical insurance, or

00:43:30.720 ways to strong-arm

00:43:32.380 private medical

00:43:32.980 insurance, and they

00:43:33.640 focus on this because

00:43:35.320 they're trying to expand

00:43:36.100 another welfare program

00:43:37.060 to give themselves more

00:43:38.260 control.

00:43:40.740 Ultimately, I think

00:43:41.560 that's what it is.

00:43:42.140 Some idealists might

00:43:44.060 have more utopian

00:43:44.820 views, but ultimately

00:43:45.640 that's what the brass

00:43:46.440 tax comes down to.

00:43:47.600 And then on the right,

00:43:49.080 they don't really have

00:43:49.860 very good ideas because

00:43:51.200 unfortunately, of all

00:43:52.680 the options on the

00:43:53.420 table, the system that

00:43:54.540 we currently have is

00:43:55.920 better than the

00:43:56.500 alternatives.

00:43:58.000 And obviously, the

00:43:58.520 system we currently have

00:43:59.620 was seriously damaged

00:44:01.020 by Obamacare, and

00:44:02.640 Trump tried to repeal

00:44:03.540 that in the first

00:44:04.500 term, and John

00:44:05.320 McCain stabbed his

00:44:07.140 constituents in the 0.66

00:44:07.800 back, basically, and

00:44:08.860 refused to do that.

00:44:11.180 So we're stuck with

00:44:12.460 Obamacare.

00:44:14.000 You know, the medical

00:44:14.660 problems really began

00:44:16.560 under FDR.

00:44:18.600 It was first FDR's fault 0.99

00:44:19.940 because he instituted

00:44:20.740 wage caps, but not caps

00:44:22.880 on fringe benefits,

00:44:23.880 which is when you went

00:44:25.040 from very, very few

00:44:26.040 Americans having 0.94

00:44:26.740 health care associated

00:44:27.560 with employment to,

00:44:28.940 by 1958, virtually all

00:44:31.040 of them, three-quarters

00:44:31.660 of them.

00:44:34.180 That system then, you

00:44:36.080 know, continued, and

00:44:36.960 then with Obamacare, it

00:44:38.620 was, you know, the

00:44:39.680 perverse incentives to

00:44:41.200 it were further

00:44:41.820 entrenched.

00:44:42.600 And the insurance does

00:44:43.700 affect the quality of

00:44:44.620 care.

00:44:45.800 And the crazy system we

00:44:47.260 have where if you pay

00:44:47.840 with insurance, a

00:44:48.600 procedure costs 30

00:44:49.360 grand.

00:44:49.980 If you pay with cash,

00:44:50.800 it costs two grand.

00:44:51.860 It creates all sorts of

00:44:53.160 bad incentives and

00:44:54.440 compromises the quality

00:44:55.560 of the care.

00:44:55.940 But the conclusion

00:44:56.960 that you should draw

00:44:57.520 from it is that

00:44:58.680 medical care is not

00:45:01.200 this magically

00:45:03.320 different field of

00:45:04.840 human activity from

00:45:05.680 every other one.

00:45:06.540 If you bring

00:45:07.100 contractors into your

00:45:08.060 house to fix a door

00:45:09.200 or to, I don't know,

00:45:10.920 to improve something,

00:45:12.480 you're going to have

00:45:13.420 to manage them.

00:45:14.360 You're going to have

00:45:14.880 to get different bids,

00:45:16.500 different offers, try

00:45:17.380 to figure out who

00:45:18.100 really has expertise,

00:45:19.140 and you're going to

00:45:19.420 have to pick one.

00:45:20.580 When it comes to

00:45:22.340 almost anything, a

00:45:24.100 car mechanic, I

00:45:25.260 don't know, a

00:45:26.320 tailor, anything

00:45:27.600 like that, you are

00:45:29.240 ultimately managing.

00:45:30.200 You're bringing your

00:45:30.760 judgment to bear to

00:45:31.680 figure out who's going

00:45:32.200 to do the best job.

00:45:33.880 That's true in medical

00:45:35.220 care, too.

00:45:36.320 You don't just leave

00:45:37.820 that up to someone

00:45:39.320 else, and you don't

00:45:39.840 leave it up to some

00:45:40.420 faceless insurance

00:45:41.480 company or the

00:45:42.340 government because

00:45:43.860 they're going to do

00:45:45.780 a worse job than

00:45:47.140 just about anybody.

00:45:48.400 Okay.

00:45:49.540 Do we have time for

00:45:50.280 one more mailbag?

00:45:50.800 I want one more

00:45:51.400 mailbag question.

00:45:52.000 Okay.

00:45:54.240 Hi, Michael.

00:45:55.060 I'm going to try to

00:45:55.760 keep this short.

00:45:56.820 I've written mailbag,

00:45:58.340 but never voiced, so

00:45:59.200 I feel awkward, but

00:46:00.080 okay.

00:46:01.240 My question for you

00:46:02.040 is, do you have any

00:46:03.260 recommendations for a

00:46:04.340 confirmation name?

00:46:05.780 I was baptized and

00:46:06.980 received my first

00:46:07.620 communion as a child,

00:46:08.680 but I was never

00:46:09.520 confirmed.

00:46:10.520 For most of my life,

00:46:11.300 I would describe

00:46:11.780 myself as like a

00:46:12.800 sleepy Christian. 0.92

00:46:14.400 In 2020, during

00:46:15.540 college, I lost my

00:46:16.920 mother to cancer, and

00:46:17.940 in the years that

00:46:18.520 followed, I drifted

00:46:19.300 even further into the

00:46:20.520 traps and distractions

00:46:21.400 of this world.

00:46:23.700 A few years ago, I

00:46:24.940 found my way back to

00:46:25.740 church through a

00:46:26.500 non-denominational

00:46:27.320 community, thanks in

00:46:28.540 large part to voices

00:46:29.420 and podcasters like

00:46:30.460 yours who helped

00:46:31.800 reignite that spirit

00:46:33.080 of faith in me.

00:46:34.920 Not long after, I

00:46:35.920 reconnected with my

00:46:36.720 now long-term

00:46:37.320 boyfriend, who is

00:46:38.260 Catholic, and he 0.90

00:46:38.980 gently led me back to

00:46:39.860 the Catholic church.

00:46:41.360 I am now going

00:46:42.320 through OCIA, and I

00:46:44.300 couldn't be more

00:46:44.720 grateful or excited

00:46:45.600 for this journey.

00:46:46.540 His mother is

00:46:47.500 actually my sponsor,

00:46:48.860 and again, I want

00:46:50.300 to thank voices like

00:46:51.120 yours who kind of

00:46:52.540 reignited this interest

00:46:54.820 in Catholicism.

00:46:56.480 As I approach

00:46:57.360 confirmation, I want

00:46:58.580 to choose a name that

00:46:59.340 reflects my story and

00:47:00.760 symbolizes my path that

00:47:01.960 God has brought me on,

00:47:03.140 and I deeply value your

00:47:04.680 biblical insight.

00:47:05.900 I'm going to love to

00:47:06.540 hear any name

00:47:07.280 recommendations you

00:47:08.080 might have.

00:47:08.920 Thank you for your

00:47:09.680 show.

00:47:09.980 Thank you for what you

00:47:10.580 do.

00:47:11.580 I think you impact so

00:47:13.400 many people around the

00:47:14.640 world, me being one of

00:47:16.300 them.

00:47:16.680 So, thank you.

00:47:17.580 Well, that's a very

00:47:18.340 kind, very, very sweet

00:47:19.440 question, and you and

00:47:21.340 I have fairly similar

00:47:22.360 stories, oddly enough,

00:47:24.320 other than the

00:47:24.800 boyfriend thing.

00:47:25.780 I didn't have one of

00:47:26.640 those, though I did

00:47:27.000 reconnect with my

00:47:27.800 long-term girlfriend,

00:47:29.120 I guess, around that

00:47:30.440 time.

00:47:30.660 So, it's interesting.

00:47:31.540 We have very, very

00:47:32.040 similar stories.

00:47:33.240 The name that comes to

00:47:34.220 mind is Augustine.

00:47:36.320 You know, you were kind

00:47:37.320 of raised, especially the

00:47:38.820 role of the mother. 0.85

00:47:39.700 You know, St.

00:47:40.140 Monica played this 0.96

00:47:40.900 very, very important

00:47:41.840 role in her son's life,

00:47:42.980 and she was praying for

00:47:43.640 his conversion, and

00:47:44.520 there's a great meme of,

00:47:45.720 you know, it's like, you

00:47:46.800 know, the entire world

00:47:47.780 is basically being held

00:47:49.320 up by the prayers of

00:47:50.360 old women. 0.91

00:47:51.860 You know, and we never

00:47:52.960 acknowledge that, but it's

00:47:54.480 substantially true.

00:47:56.460 And Augustine, obviously,

00:47:57.960 you know, went through a

00:47:58.660 period of a bit of

00:47:59.500 rebellious youth, and

00:48:01.180 then came fully into

00:48:03.280 faith and said, you

00:48:04.060 know, oh, how late I

00:48:05.380 found you, how, you

00:48:06.580 know, oh, love ever

00:48:07.560 ancient, ever new.

00:48:08.440 And so, yeah, and you

00:48:12.260 can pick names, you

00:48:12.920 know, women religious

00:48:15.020 and lay women who have

00:48:17.060 confirmation names, they

00:48:17.980 can pick male names all

00:48:18.920 the time.

00:48:19.240 There are plenty of men,

00:48:19.860 especially like royals of

00:48:20.860 Europe, plenty of men with

00:48:22.020 the name Maria is one of

00:48:23.100 their, like, 15 names.

00:48:24.120 So, anyway, Augustine

00:48:25.740 comes to mind.

00:48:26.400 I don't know.

00:48:26.960 It's kind of, you could

00:48:28.080 pronounce it Augustine.

00:48:30.260 It's a more Latinate way, 1.00

00:48:31.420 and then it seems more

00:48:32.160 feminine, but that's the 0.56

00:48:33.380 one that comes to mind,

00:48:34.040 but, you know, you can't

00:48:34.700 go wrong.

00:48:35.120 Glad to hear it.

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