The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 2072 - Indian Pilot Rescues Plane From Muslim Hijacker

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00:02:24.000 an Omani Muslim pilot tried to take down an Emirati airplane flying to Israel yesterday. 1.00

00:02:30.660 And the terrorist aviator would have gotten away with it if it weren't for a crazy Indian 1.00

00:02:36.480 co-pilot and a plane full of Jews with a lot of chutzpah. Then a former American Idol star 1.00

00:02:42.120 and non-denominational pastor is convicted of murdering his beautiful wife and by all

00:02:47.960 accounts, very lovely wife. And no one seems to understand why on earth he would do it.

00:02:53.760 but I think I actually have the answer. And the craziest story of all, Sonny Hostin of The View

00:02:58.880 has emerged as the voice of reason in the case of the Cornell Seven. I'm Michael Knowles. This

00:03:04.880 Michael Knowles Show.

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00:03:41.440 Speaking of death, before we get into any of these stories, this is pretty crazy. Yesterday

00:03:46.800 on the show, we talked about the case of Krista Pike. Krista Pike is this woman who's been on

00:03:52.640 death row for 30 years. She was convicted in the mid-90s at the age of 18, or she was convicted

00:03:59.120 of a crime that she committed at the age of 18 when she lured another teenage girl into the woods

00:04:04.980 and then chopped her up, tortured her, her boyfriend, carved a pentagram on her chest,

00:04:10.060 then Krista Pike killed the girl, bludgeoned her in the head with a rock, took part of her skull, 1.00

00:04:15.900 brought it back as a souvenir, and showed it off around campus. As heinous a crime as you can

00:04:20.400 imagine. She's been on death row for 30 years because the American justice system is broken. 0.99

00:04:25.580 And finally, she was supposed to be executed yesterday at 10 a.m. The lawyers were trying 0.99

00:04:30.460 all these last minute desperate pleas. It went all the way up to the Supreme Court. The Supreme

00:04:35.160 Court shut it down. They go to some other court. They do get a temporary reprieve. But then the

00:04:39.460 Supreme Court is like, hey, knock it off. You got to kill the lady. And so they go to kill her. 1.00

00:04:43.680 This is the first woman to be executed by the state of Tennessee in over 200 years.

00:04:48.580 So they use lethal injection, which I find to be a very undignified form of the death penalty.

00:04:54.300 For me, God forbid, I hope I'm never convicted of a capital offense.

00:04:57.820 I would prefer a firing squad.

00:05:00.160 That seems more dignified.

00:05:01.400 You could even be standing up.

00:05:02.580 You know, you got a cigarette or better a cigar in your teeth.

00:05:04.880 And that would get the job done.

00:05:07.140 They administer the shots of lethal injection. 0.99

00:05:12.660 Doesn't work.

00:05:14.260 She wakes up, apparently.

00:05:16.200 She says, hey, wait a second.

00:05:17.460 My arm kind of hurts.

00:05:18.260 This is really brutal.

00:05:19.100 I feel like my veins are about to explode.

00:05:20.640 Is this how it's supposed to work?

00:05:22.680 It didn't work. 1.00

00:05:23.860 So they give her more shots of lethal injection.

00:05:27.440 It doesn't work.

00:05:28.780 So then, kind of crazy when it comes to the death penalty, they send an ambulance over

00:05:35.020 and they take her to the hospital to treat her for the wounds that she incurred while

00:05:39.700 they were trying to kill her.

00:05:41.020 And now it's unclear what's going to happen.

00:05:43.880 So my first thought, when you look at the incompetence of the state executioner,

00:05:50.900 my first thought was, have they considered dragging this woman out into the woods and 0.75

00:05:55.700 cracking her skull with a rock? Because I know for sure that that works. I know that's a very 1.00

00:06:00.000 effective method of killing somebody. The condemned here knows that that's a very effective method of

00:06:05.860 killing somebody. Why do we have to play around with all these stupid shots and all these stupid 1.00

00:06:09.280 lawyers and all these stupid judges. Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way? That was my 1.00

00:06:14.320 first thought. My second thought was, is it possible that this was a case of sabotage?

00:06:20.620 Because we know that there's a lot of anti-death penalty activism, mostly from the left, a little

00:06:25.460 bit on the right. So is it possible that someone was just mixing up the shots over here because

00:06:30.280 they didn't want this to be carried out? It's possible. I think this is where a lot of people

00:06:36.620 were very eager to see the death penalty carried out here. There's a misunderstanding of why so

00:06:41.860 many people want to see this woman killed. Some of it has to do with justice. Some of it has to

00:06:48.480 do with how heinous the crime was. But at a deeper level, it is not merely the bloodthirstiness of

00:06:56.000 the public. I think for a lot of people, the fact that the state could not execute this woman,

00:07:01.720 the fact that it takes 30 years for criminals to receive their punishments in the rare cases when

00:07:07.660 they actually do receive their punishments. The reason a lot of people are so irritated by this

00:07:12.600 is because it is further evidence that our justice system doesn't work. It is yet another example of

00:07:19.920 our institutions failing us, of people losing trust in the public authority. The law says the

00:07:25.880 woman is supposed to be killed. The law says generally that criminals are supposed to be

00:07:29.680 held responsible for their crimes. And they're not. We see this in cities all around the country.

00:07:34.060 People with a rap sheet a mile long, they're just let out on the street, and eventually they kill

00:07:39.060 somebody in the subway or something. And they're still probably not held to account for their

00:07:43.080 crimes. And so people feel that the public authorities have just failed them. And this

00:07:47.720 is the latest and a kind of absurd example of that. That is what people are about. On top of

00:07:54.200 that, a lot of the anti-death penalty activism focuses on how in the modern age, we don't need

00:07:58.980 the death penalty to protect the public from the criminals. So they'll say, well, the purpose of

00:08:05.000 the death penalty now is no longer required. Or they'll say, because it takes 30 years for the

00:08:10.820 death penalty to be carried out, it's not really a deterrent to crime. They'll say, we have all

00:08:15.260 these studies from all these universities that show that the death penalty doesn't actually

00:08:19.220 deter crime. The studies could be dubious. That's not the point. They say, if there's no deterrent

00:08:23.680 effect and there's no effect to protect the public, then there's no reason to carry out the

00:08:27.620 death penalty. But what they're missing is two other aspects of the death penalty. One,

00:08:32.840 the rehabilitative aspect of the death penalty. A lot of the argument, especially the Christian 0.98

00:08:36.620 argument against the death penalty, is that we need these people to live so that they have a

00:08:40.200 longer period of time to repent, that that would be good for their souls. However, Dr. Samuel

00:08:46.140 Johnson famously points out that the death penalty has a rehabilitative aspect. He says,

00:08:51.680 depend upon it, sir. When a man knows he's to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates the mind

00:08:56.320 wonderfully. In other words, if your goal is to save their souls and allow them to repent,

00:09:02.040 you actually might be undermining that by not killing them. Because when they're facing death

00:09:06.900 directly, it's going to focus their mind. And they're either going to ignore God's grace,

00:09:13.120 or they're going to think about the final things and repent at the last minute.

00:09:18.620 When a guy thinks he's got 30 years and he might not face the death penalty anyway,

00:09:23.620 Actually, the odds that he repents might be lower.

00:09:25.720 So that's the rehabilitative aspect of the death penalty.

00:09:28.360 There's a very good essay by Father George Ruttler on this in Crisis Magazine

00:09:31.200 called Hanging Concentrates the Mind.

00:09:33.100 But this all misses the point.

00:09:36.800 The chief purpose of the entire criminal justice system is retribution.

00:09:42.420 It is not chiefly deterrence.

00:09:44.060 It is not chiefly protecting the public.

00:09:45.440 It is not chiefly rehabilitation.

00:09:47.820 If it were chiefly any of those things,

00:09:49.920 then we could convict and imprison and even execute people who have not been found guilty

00:09:54.480 of a crime. If everybody could use a little rehabilitation, anybody with a little bit of a

00:10:00.100 problem, they could use a little time of rehabilitation, right? People who we suspect

00:10:04.540 could commit crimes statistically or as a matter of prejudice, we should just lock them up. If the

00:10:09.740 chief goal is to protect the public, better safe than sorry. No, the chief purpose is retribution.

00:10:17.460 and in the case of the death penalty goes back to the book of genesis whosoever sheds the blood of

00:10:22.240 man by man shall his blood be shed for man is made in the image and likeness of god that the

00:10:26.140 blood of the innocent cries out from the very ground for justice okay all of that said i have

00:10:34.940 one last thought on this botched execution that maybe is a little unexpected i don't know maybe

00:10:41.780 you're going to call me a little bit of a lib here but i don't think i'm a lib

00:10:44.940 there is a providential aspect to this too and so i'm i'm slightly joking about dragging the

00:10:52.920 condemned out to the woods and cracking her skull with a rock because that'll definitely work she

00:10:56.680 knows it there is a long tradition of when an execution doesn't work for whatever reason

00:11:06.520 just kind of letting it go not maybe not literally letting the criminal off the hook entirely i don't 1.00

00:11:12.760 think this crazy lady should be allowed to walk free. But maybe you just let her live the rest 1.00

00:11:17.060 of her life in prison. Maybe. I know you're going to call me a lib. You're going to say I'm going 1.00

00:11:20.100 squishy. But my argument here is that we need to enact justice. We need to use our reason. We need

00:11:28.440 to act responsibly. We need to do all of these things. But it is very, very important for us

00:11:33.780 to be sensitive to the signs of providence. I'm actually writing a whole book on this right now.

00:11:40.180 This comes from a commencement speech that I gave a couple years ago at Ave Maria.

00:11:43.620 We need to be open to the science of providence. We have this idea in modernity that we do

00:11:48.340 everything, that the world is just about us. We need to go out and change the world.

00:11:51.880 We need to impose our will upon the world. It's all about us. No gods, no kings, only men.

00:11:57.820 But that's not the old view. That's not the view of Christendom. That's not the view you see in

00:12:02.360 the Gospels, it's not the view of the early Christians, that we're in the suspended time

00:12:10.040 of history. We know how history begins. We know the turn of history, which is the incarnation

00:12:13.820 and the crucifixion, the resurrection. We know how history ends in the end times, but we're in

00:12:19.640 the suspended time of history. And so what are we supposed to do in the suspended time of history?

00:12:23.900 Supposed to use our reason, to act in accord with God's will. And in order to act in accord

00:12:28.040 with God's will, we have to be listening for God's will. I think it's the 20th century theologian

00:12:33.140 Henri de Lubac. It's either de Lubac or Balthazar who points out that one of the distinctive

00:12:39.480 characteristics of the Son, of Christ, distinguished from the Father, the first person of the

00:12:46.160 blessed Trinity, is that the Son is always receiving from the Father. He's eternally

00:12:50.080 begotten of the Father. Christ, in his sojourn on earth, is always listening. He's always praying.

00:12:55.060 He's always listening for the commands of the father. When he says, not my will be done, but

00:12:58.800 thy will be done. This is confounding for a lot of Christians because we say, well, hold on,

00:13:02.700 Christ, you are God. So what is the distinction here? We can't fit the entirety of the Trinity

00:13:10.380 into our finite little minds. If that were the case, God would not be God. But we see this,

00:13:15.060 that Christ as he says, always listening. Those who have ears to hear, let them hear.

00:13:19.460 You scrutinize the signs of the weather, but you can't discern the signs of the times.

00:13:25.060 a little openness to providence is not the worst thing in the world.

00:13:30.640 And in fact, that is one of the essential qualities that distinguishes Christian civilization.

00:13:36.660 And so, look, I don't know if this could have been sabotage.

00:13:39.040 We should look into that. 1.00

00:13:40.620 The woman certainly deserves death. 1.00

00:13:42.560 There's no question about it. 1.00

00:13:43.940 By the letter of the law, she should be killed. 0.99

00:13:46.020 The courts agree. 0.99

00:13:46.900 The governor agrees, possibly.

00:13:48.200 However, if this really just happened, if two rounds of lethal injection actually just failed, just because, with no natural explanation for that, I'm not entirely opposed to letting her live the rest of her life in prison.

00:14:10.760 I know what I would do as a citizen.

00:14:13.520 I know what I would vote for.

00:14:15.640 I know what I would do basically as the governor

00:14:17.620 if I were told to follow the law.

00:14:19.120 I know what justice demands.

00:14:22.480 And yet, mercy seasons justice.

00:14:25.720 And ultimately, though we have substantial command

00:14:28.380 over the world and over history,

00:14:30.260 we're not ultimately sovereign over history.

00:14:32.660 God is sovereign over history.

00:14:34.140 And there is a reason why our forebears,

00:14:36.360 who are a lot tougher about justice than we are,

00:14:40.100 If an execution failed, if someone survived it, they might defer to a higher authority.

00:14:46.480 That's all I'm saying.

00:14:47.540 I know this is probably the only conservative show that you're going to see or hear today

00:14:51.980 that will suggest anything of the kind.

00:14:54.200 But that is not a lib take, actually.

00:14:56.920 That might be the more conservative, more traditional, and more Christian take on all

00:15:02.940 of it.

00:15:03.180 I don't know.

00:15:04.460 Let me know what you think in the comments.

00:15:06.680 I'm not, I want justice as much as the next guy.

00:15:12.020 But when strange things happen in the world, I'm at least sensitive to it.

00:15:16.900 Okay.

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00:16:17.580 committee. Speaking of death, speaking of strange, improbable ways of avoiding death,

00:16:27.620 there was a massive terror attack yesterday that by all accounts should have succeeded,

00:16:33.640 and it failed. This occurred over in the Middle East, no surprise there. It was on a fly Dubai

00:16:40.740 plane. A flight from Dubai to Tel Aviv, full of people of different nationalities, but mostly

00:16:48.060 it was Israeli Jews. It's flying from the Emirates over to the state of Israel. And at one point,

00:16:54.940 there's a problem in the cockpit. I love that. That's how the mainstream media reported on this.

00:17:00.040 They say, you know, there was an altercation in the cockpit.

00:17:03.060 New York Times, you know, there was a little bit of a fight, a little disagreement in the cockpit.

00:17:07.300 That's like saying that the Millennium Falcon had an earlier than scheduled departure because

00:17:11.500 there was a little bit of a disagreement between Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi.

00:17:14.520 You know, there wasn't just a little disagreement in the cockpit.

00:17:17.000 One of the pilots was a terrorist.

00:17:19.820 He was an Omani Muslim, and he stabbed his co-pilot, who was an Indian guy. 0.85

00:17:24.380 And then he tried to take the plane down.

00:17:25.880 the minute you heard about this a plane was hijacked and nearly went down in the middle east

00:17:31.560 you would say well hold on this is after 9 11 the cockpits are locked how on earth did a terrorist

00:17:36.600 bust into the cockpit well one thing that we hadn't considered was maybe the call could come 0.97

00:17:41.380 from inside the house in this case this is deep infiltration you have this omani muslim terrorist 0.92

00:17:46.660 pilot who stabs the co-pilot and now all the passengers who might stop in flight 93 style 0.88

00:17:52.860 they're all locked out of the cockpit because of the safety measures to stop terrorism.

00:17:56.900 So this is where it gets really amazing. The Indian co-pilot, his name is Captain

00:18:02.180 Smit Makahar. I'm sure I'm mispronouncing that. He is stabbed, very severely stabbed.

00:18:08.740 He is collapsing. He's on the brink of passing out. And just before he does it, this total

00:18:14.780 hero gigachad, 0.75

00:18:17.820 indo-gigachad,

00:18:19.480 manages to open the cockpit door.

00:18:23.680 Imagine having,

00:18:24.900 the plane is going down,

00:18:26.920 you are dying,

00:18:28.640 and you have the presence of mind

00:18:30.620 to open the cockpit door.

00:18:32.520 He opens the cockpit door, and that 0.96

00:18:34.700 is when the Israelis on the plane 0.99

00:18:36.380 take over. The Israelis who, as a 0.97

00:18:38.620 people, are fairly sensitive to Muslim 0.91

00:18:40.880 terrorism. 0.98

00:18:42.520 They bust in

00:18:44.780 They grab the terrorist pilot.

00:18:47.920 They put him in chokehold. 1.00

00:18:49.480 Then, because it's a plane full of Israeli Jews, they have a bunch of different skills. 1.00

00:18:54.020 So there's, of course, there's a doctor on board. 1.00

00:18:55.800 There's a doctor.

00:18:56.620 There's a lawyer.

00:18:57.180 There's an accountant.

00:18:58.120 I'm sure they all bust into action.

00:18:59.760 The doctor on board goes and starts caring for the Indian co-pilot who was stabbed and potentially dying.

00:19:06.080 And then, I don't know, I assume the accountant was doing everybody's taxes on there.

00:19:10.760 I assume you probably had a few jewelry dealers.

00:19:13.720 I don't know.

00:19:14.300 But in any case, they spring into action, and they manage to stabilize the plane.

00:19:20.440 Another providential aspect of this, you had reserve crew members from Fly Dubai

00:19:26.560 who happened to be on this plane.

00:19:28.860 And they were on this plane in case they needed a new crew, if the flights were delayed.

00:19:32.720 I've flown Fly Dubai.

00:19:34.200 Frankly, when the plane dropped 10,000 feet in two seconds,

00:19:37.220 I'm surprised the Fly Dubai passengers thought anything was wrong.

00:19:40.000 Fly Dubai is kind of a dodgy airliner.

00:19:41.720 I flew it like 10, 11 years ago.

00:19:43.020 it's not the best airline in the world. And it starts going down. They manage to get the

00:19:49.660 terrorist out. And then the reserve crew come in. They stabilize the plane, 178 people on board.

00:19:54.300 They have, sorry, 174, 27 of them children. They land the plane in Saudi Arabia.

00:20:00.840 Everybody's safe. Here is President Trump describing the scene.

00:20:05.740 An Israeli plumber never flew a plane, was rarely in planes, very rarely flew.

00:20:13.020 An Israeli plumber saw what was happening and strong.

00:20:16.900 You know, when you live pipe all day, you're strong.

00:20:19.520 And he saw what was going on.

00:20:21.160 He heard the screaming.

00:20:22.660 He was toward the front where you had security in the back.

00:20:26.680 You know, you had security and you had another flight crew, but they didn't have time.

00:20:31.540 The plane was going sharply down at an unbelievable angle, so sharp that the rudder ripped off the back of the plane.

00:20:37.140 The plane wasn't designed to go at a speed anywhere near that.

00:20:41.400 and so it was well beyond its limits and he ripped with the g-forces as they were he ripped

00:20:49.380 this guy out of the seat threw him back the crowd got him the passengers got him

00:20:54.100 got him stabilize it and then the final scene of all of this is that you have this plane full of 0.99

00:21:02.060 jews landing in saudi arabia and you just can't make it up saudi arabia which certainly does not 0.86

00:21:07.820 accept Israeli passports. I don't know. It might have been a little awkward there at customs.

00:21:12.660 Unbelievable happy ending. And so this relates to what we were talking about earlier, which is

00:21:17.380 providence. There are two big questions that this kind of an event poses for us. Beside we should

00:21:23.840 all be happy. We should all thank God. We should have this wonderful happy ending. Because had

00:21:27.940 this gone down, had this really gone down, 174 people killed on this flight to Tel Aviv in a

00:21:35.160 Middle East that's already at war, this could have vastly expanded the war. This would have 0.68

00:21:40.240 prompted a major response from the state of Israel against Iran, against Oman, against who knows. 0.82

00:21:48.000 You can't call the Middle East a powder keg because it's already kind of on fire. 0.70

00:21:51.380 This would have vastly expanded the war. And we avoided it. We just avoided it. 0.79

00:21:58.340 And you pray to God that bad things don't happen. You're angry with God when bad things do happen.

00:22:05.160 we generally don't thank God that much when really bad things are narrowly averted.

00:22:11.040 We just don't. It's part of human nature. In any case, this raises two big questions,

00:22:17.620 and they concern who is in charge of history. You have the religious question, which is,

00:22:24.700 is God totally sovereign and in charge of history, and free will is an illusion?

00:22:30.520 or are we in charge of history? Is our free will absolute? And are we, I don't know,

00:22:40.160 do we live in a kind of deistic world like around the enlightenment or the 17th and 18th centuries

00:22:47.020 where he had this idea that God, you know, he kind of sets the world and the laws of the world,

00:22:50.780 but then we do whatever we want and God doesn't really concern himself. That's the religious

00:22:54.020 question. What is the relationship between God's sovereignty and free will? A question that has

00:23:00.460 been debated in earnest for 400 to 500 years, but that has more broadly been debated for 2,000 years

00:23:06.420 or more. Then you have, in the modern era, the ideological question. So in the modern era, we

00:23:13.120 put God aside, we ignore God, and you have this ideological question, which is, who controls

00:23:18.180 history? Individual great men or mysterious impersonal forces? Guns, germs, and steel,

00:23:25.440 like that stupid Jerry Diamond book. Which is it? And the answer is yes. The answer is uh-huh. 1.00

00:23:36.900 Yeah, it's those things. In terms of God's sovereignty and human free will,

00:23:45.080 we also coincidentally were talking about this last show or two shows ago.

00:23:48.180 the consensus of the theologians, going back to men like St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas,

00:23:55.640 including up to some of the Puritan writers, the radical Protestant writers,

00:24:00.460 is that there is kind of two levels going on here. Human beings really do have free will.

00:24:06.600 We are secondary causes in the world. Chance and fortuitous things really can occur,

00:24:12.360 at the very least, from our perspective. But as a primary cause, God is in control of history.

00:24:18.180 So a sparrow doesn't fall without our fathers knowing. Every hair on our head is numbered.

00:24:23.420 Things will go according to God's plan, and there is no confounding God's plan.

00:24:27.580 And also, we have free will. So in this way, will and grace are kind of moving, not like the Gay 1.00

00:24:35.480 90s show, but like our actual free will and God's grace. They are moving together kind of like a

00:24:40.160 waltz, where you don't always know who is leading. You're just kind of moving together. Okay, you

00:24:45.800 have that. Then on the ideological side, this is a little more easily resolved. Yes, there are

00:24:50.940 historical forces, economic forces, even geographic forces to give Jared Diamond a tiny little bit of

00:24:56.360 his due in that liberal book from 25 years ago that says that individual men and particular

00:25:02.260 peoples are responsible for nothing. And the only reason that Papua New Guinea doesn't control the

00:25:06.200 world is because they're actually secretly smarter than all of us, but their geography is a little

00:25:10.680 different or whatever. That's totally ridiculous. This episode reminds us, individual men do a lot 1.00

00:25:19.860 in the world. And it's not just the Caesars, and it's not just the Napoleons. It's also

00:25:25.340 Captain Smit Makakar. That Indian pilot's wherewithal in that very moment when he could

00:25:34.540 have been on the brink of death to just open up the door, certainly changed the course of history

00:25:41.300 for 174 people, certainly changed the course of history for all of their families. Now we're

00:25:45.440 talking about thousands of people, but probably changed the course of history for entire nations,

00:25:50.260 for major wars involving the great world powers. That guy did it. Had that guy passed out a little

00:25:58.520 sooner, had that guy only been thinking about himself, not of others, had that guy not known

00:26:03.520 how a door works, history looks very different. So what does that mean for us? The big takeaway

00:26:09.560 for us is you can't ignore any of these things. At the ideological level, yeah, there are four.

00:26:15.420 You have to pay attention to economics and geography and natural limits and natural

00:26:18.720 boundaries in the physical world. Yes. But at the religious level, we have free will. We are

00:26:27.700 held responsible for our actions. We are called to do certain things. We're not supposed to just

00:26:31.160 be Babas sitting on the Ganges in a quietist kind of politics. We are called upon to do things.

00:26:37.920 And the only way that we will do things properly is by listening to and discerning God's will and

00:26:43.780 cooperating with God's will. That cooperating with God's will, contra to what modernity tells us,

00:26:50.740 that does not diminish our individuality. That does not diminish our will and our power and

00:26:55.640 our command over things. It actually grows them. We become most perfectly ourselves when we find

00:27:02.440 our identity in God, and we are capable of so much more, really infinitely more, when we act

00:27:09.460 in accordance with God's will, not merely with our own. The faith of a mustard seed moves mountains.

00:27:13.920 Okay. Now, speaking of individuals and free will, a crazy story. A lot of death today.

00:27:18.900 A lot of death and then avoiding death, but in some cases, the death does come.

00:27:23.120 The murder case of Caleb Flynn, this American Idol star and youth or music pastor at a

00:27:31.340 non-denominational congregation who murdered his wife to please his mistress. We'll get to that

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00:28:48.260 All gifts are tax deductible. Have you been following this case? I don't follow the true

00:28:53.980 crime stuff. I'm not like a 40-year-old woman. I know this is not my main interest. And yet, 0.76

00:29:00.520 I cannot stop following this case. I don't watch American Idol. I never heard of this guy before

00:29:05.660 in my life, Caleb Flynn. He was a contestant on American Idol. He had this beautiful wife. He's

00:29:12.040 got these young kids. And he murdered his wife. He murdered his wife because he was having an

00:29:16.640 affair with some younger woman. But it's not that it would excuse it in any case, but his wife was

00:29:22.000 beautiful. His wife was beautiful. She seemed really, really lovely. And he decided he was

00:29:25.900 going to murder his wife so that he could be with his mistress. And it all fell apart. And he got 0.98

00:29:30.620 caught and he was just convicted of it yesterday. And you look at him, he looks like a complete

00:29:36.240 ghoul. This is Caleb Flynn when he was on American Idol. I love to sing. So that's why I auditioned.

00:29:44.000 Maybe my wife kind of nudged me a little bit too. My first thought when I got my golden ticket,

00:29:49.100 honestly, all I could do was cover my face because I cried a little bit. I'm kind of a cry baby. I

00:29:54.640 get it from my mom and my dad. But it was honestly just pure joy, excitement. I tried out for American

00:30:01.480 Idol two or three years ago and I didn't make it. And so to get this was all the more sweeter and

00:30:06.880 all the more meaningful. So it was awesome. The person that inspires me to be informer, I guess,

00:30:13.180 would say the Lord. I'm a music pastor. And so that's my job every week is to go up there and

00:30:20.800 to sing and to connect what I do on stage of the congregation. So first and foremost, obviously,

00:30:26.900 is the Lord. The thing that makes me unique, you know, I absolutely love the Lord. I love my wife

00:30:32.300 more than anything. She is very, very pretty. Just, I love her. But you know, I'm just a normal

00:30:38.600 person who absolutely loves to sing. Whoa, man, the video makes it so much spookier. I think

00:30:45.740 it's all this backstory that is what makes the case so compelling and so horrifying and it makes

00:30:51.360 us a little introspective. He says, oh, the two things you should know about me, I love my wife

00:30:57.200 and I love the Lord. Then he goes on to murder his wife and betray his God by violating a very,

00:31:02.720 very serious commandment. Right off the bat, people watching this are going to notice this

00:31:08.200 guy's a little effeminate. He's a little effeminate. He's a little bit of a do-gooder. 0.94

00:31:11.820 he reads like a lib. You know me, look, I cry. I cry a little bit. That's me. I'm not afraid to

00:31:18.880 say it. I get it from, we all know guys like this. And especially in the context of whatever,

00:31:24.980 we were talking about the Cornell seven and the relations between men and women, just a sign to

00:31:30.200 women. If you see a guy like this, who's really soft and effeminate, maybe a little feminist,

00:31:37.100 he's real, run, run. Those guys are brutal. Those guys, they're the worst, man. You see a guy 0.97

00:31:41.260 who's a little bit tougher. Maybe he's a little more old-fashioned, a little patriarchal.

00:31:46.440 Our modern society says, that guy's the threat to you. That guy's not the threat to you.

00:31:50.260 It's the feminist guy. It's the soft guy. It's the effeminate guy. He's the threat to you. 1.00

00:31:54.080 There's something wrong. It's eerie. It's like, that's the first scene in the horror movie.

00:31:58.480 And he sets it up. It's so on the nose. He says, oh, you know, whatever else,

00:32:02.320 the two things I care most about in this world are my wife and my God,

00:32:06.360 both of whom he betrays in the most spectacular of ways so here's the guy beforehand caleb flynn

00:32:12.680 he looks good good decent looking guy look at that beautiful wife beautiful lovely wife they're

00:32:17.240 smiling together i don't know they look like they're at some museum or something maybe they're

00:32:21.740 going on vacation okay they look nice and young and healthy fast forward to today

00:32:25.900 this guy looks like a character in dante's inferno this guy if you're just listening to

00:32:33.040 the show right now, he looks like a demon. He looks like he has been hollowed out, sunken cheeks,

00:32:39.080 eyes seem to have gone in the back of his head. He lost his hair. It's not just that he has aged.

00:32:44.840 It is that he has aged miserably. It looks like this guy's being rotted out from the inside,

00:32:50.060 not by a physical cancer necessarily, though perhaps by a spiritual cancer that has a relation

00:32:56.080 to the physical because our souls have a relation to our bodies because we're hylomorphic beings.

00:33:00.860 Okay. Then in this trial, last little clip from this trial, the mistress reads out the text

00:33:09.860 messages that that husband who just loves his wife and loves his God, he's a pop singer. He's

00:33:15.560 a pastor at this non-denominational church. He's just like a nice, real casual feels guy, man.

00:33:22.640 These are the texts that he's sending to his mistress.

00:33:30.860 I'm sorry.

00:33:34.900 Because she texted these things.

00:33:36.680 64,281.

00:33:40.940 Sorry.

00:33:45.740 I just wish I didn't say this.

00:33:51.380 What was the message said?

00:33:56.840 I didn't mean it.

00:33:58.180 It says, 0.99

00:33:59.360 says i want to kill her caleb who said that me next message i said it's so bad 0.99

00:34:09.560 next message he said that makes two of us 0.99

00:34:13.880 there are about a hundred thousand of these messages and it's not just him it's the mistress 1.00

00:34:23.800 saying i just want to kill her i just want to kill your wife the mother of your daughters 1.00

00:34:27.620 so that we can be together. He says, oh yeah, me too. It goes on. I won't go through all the 1.00

00:34:33.120 texts. He said, oh, I was up all night trying to think of ways to kill her. If I could kill her 0.99

00:34:36.820 without being arrested for it, I would do it in a heartbeat. And he does. He kills her. And then 1.00

00:34:42.040 he stages the murder scene as if it were a break-in. The cops realized right away this was

00:34:46.320 not a break-in. In fact, when he called 9-11 dispatch, I said, what happened? He goes,

00:34:50.000 my wife, there was an intruder and my wife was shot in the head twice.

00:34:53.520 if you stumble across your wife god forbid you stumble across your wife 0.59

00:34:58.740 dead in a murder scene you're not going to say yeah i think she was shot twice

00:35:02.680 once on the right side of her head once on the left side of her head you're not

00:35:05.320 going to give that kind of detail he knows it because he did it so they

00:35:08.760 catch him doing it okay one last bit i know i said that the

00:35:12.660 the reading of the texts was the last bit on it just

00:35:15.400 here's his reaction because his reaction is going to cut to the core

00:35:20.460 of, I think, a lot of people's misperception of this crime.

00:35:29.500 You're showing the crime scene.

00:35:32.080 The lawyers are showing the crime scene.

00:35:33.800 Caleb Flynn looks at it, and he reacts in a way

00:35:36.060 that I think is totally genuine and sincere.

00:35:38.520 He looks at the crime scene, he looks horrified.

00:35:41.040 He has to look away.

00:35:41.960 He looks like he's going to vomit.

00:35:45.280 He's crying, he's disgusted, but he looks scared.

00:35:50.460 He looks scared. He looks like a little kid looking at the crime scene, looking at what he did.

00:35:57.060 And this is the part that matters for all of us. If this were just a murder story,

00:36:04.180 you say, okay, I don't really care. I don't care about true crime.

00:36:07.380 But this is a story about all of us because what a lot of people want to say about Caleb Flynn 0.81

00:36:12.860 is this guy is a stone cold sociopath. This guy is a stone cold killer. He never loved his wife. 0.99

00:36:19.340 He never loved his God. It was all fake. He's a manipulator, but he's not. He's not. In fact, 0.64

00:36:26.860 his transformation from that good-looking young guy to this demonic-looking creature that could

00:36:34.140 come out of Dante, to me, that is an evidence that this guy, he really, in a way, did love his wife,

00:36:42.600 that this guy is not without feeling, that this guy actually feels a lot,

00:36:45.980 that he realizes the gravity of what he's done.

00:36:48.860 If he were just a stone-cold sociopath, 0.83

00:36:51.060 he'd look like Ted Bundy. 0.98

00:36:53.100 He wouldn't be bothered at all.

00:36:54.420 He'd look at the murder scene.

00:36:55.600 It might turn him on.

00:36:57.780 That's not what we're seeing.

00:36:59.820 It's very easy to write him off as a sociopath

00:37:02.680 because that means he's different than we are.

00:37:04.920 But he's not.

00:37:06.320 The scariest part of this story

00:37:08.020 is that that guy is basically no different than you and I.

00:37:12.720 The scariest part of that story

00:37:14.280 is you look at that guy, you say,

00:37:15.260 there, but for the grace of God, go I. I could do that. I could do that. You could do that.

00:37:22.040 Now, I don't think you're going to do, I don't think I'm going to do that anytime soon.

00:37:26.000 I know sweet little Elise is listening to the show. I'm not going to, don't worry,

00:37:28.700 I'm not going to do it. But the anthropological point is very important here because that guy

00:37:32.800 is not fundamentally different than any of us. Do you know how this happened? You know how he

00:37:37.940 got to the point where he murdered his wife, the mother of his children for this crazy mistress, 0.99

00:37:43.160 and now he looks like he's being rotted out 0.99

00:37:45.340 and he's going to spend the rest of his life in prison 0.97

00:37:47.060 or be executed.

00:37:48.440 I don't know exactly what the punishment is.

00:37:50.580 Do you know how that happened?

00:37:52.020 It happened because of a lot of little sins.

00:37:55.540 It happened because I bet that guy,

00:37:57.700 I bet he was looking at pornography.

00:38:00.300 I bet.

00:38:00.740 I don't know that for a fact,

00:38:01.600 but I bet.

00:38:02.080 I don't think you go from totally happy,

00:38:05.360 married family guy with a beautiful wife 0.99

00:38:07.660 to murdering your wife or your mistress 1.00

00:38:10.360 without some intermediary step. 0.99

00:38:13.160 I, you know what? I bet it started out. He started looking at the girls in the congregation

00:38:17.360 and some of those girls look pretty nice, you know, and then maybe he looked at some girls

00:38:21.580 on the internet and some of them look pretty nice too. Maybe he was talking to some of them.

00:38:24.980 He was obviously talking to his mistress and then he escalated it a little further.

00:38:29.260 Then he goes out and he goes and has coffee with the mistress and then he escalates it a little

00:38:34.000 further. Maybe then he gets a motel room with the mistress. Ooh, just once though. And then maybe

00:38:40.300 he does it twice. And then maybe they're talking a little bit. And then maybe he starts talking

00:38:44.420 about divorcing his wife, but he can't divorce his wife because his career requires him to be

00:38:47.740 a pastor at this non-denominational church. So he can't, if he divorced his wife, that'd be a huge

00:38:51.980 scandal. He can't do that, but he really wants to be with his mistress. Well, the only way he can,

00:38:55.620 I guess, I guess if his wife died, then he could be with his mistress. And he starts fantasizing

00:38:59.920 about that. Then he's entertaining all of these thoughts in his mind. He's chewing on them. And

00:39:04.100 he's staying up late. And he's thinking, oh, it's just a fantasy. But maybe what if my wife died?

00:39:09.420 what if I killed her? Well, that would be a way that she could die. And then he's living more and 1.00

00:39:14.520 more of his life in this kind of fantasy. And the more he does that, the more he's thinking about

00:39:18.400 these awful things, the more he's doing some awful things, the less he's doing the good things,

00:39:22.140 the less he's thinking about others, the less he's thinking about his kids, the less he's thinking

00:39:24.640 about his wife. And it's this turning of the will, this total turning away from what he should be

00:39:32.760 doing, away from God, into all of this evil. And the thing about the relation of the mind and the

00:39:37.360 will, is that eventually the fantasy starts to become reality. This is, I mentioned Dante earlier.

00:39:44.120 We haven't talked about Dante enough on the show recently. The final lines of Dante is that,

00:39:49.500 well, actually the final lines of the canticles involve the turning of Dante's will. And then

00:39:55.320 the final line of the whole poem is that he looks up and he sees the sun that moves the sun the

00:39:59.680 other stars. This idea of this turning, of this movement of doing something. And eventually he

00:40:06.920 does it. And he can't, it happens so fast. You know, one of the most basic aspects of sin is

00:40:15.120 that sin is really stupid. It's absurd. It's contrary to reason and it's contrary to our 1.00

00:40:19.660 flourishing. And it just makes us unhappy, even though if we think it makes us happy in the short

00:40:23.960 run. And what's so scary is this guy realizes that he's done basically the most awful thing

00:40:29.760 you can imagine. And it's like a revelation to him. Looking at that on the screen, it's like

00:40:37.600 a revelation. He's like, how did I get here? And the thing is, all of us, hopefully none of us have

00:40:42.340 like murdered our wives or anything, but all of us, we've all done something that we regret.

00:40:47.980 And it's hard to imagine, how did we get here? It doesn't just happen in a flash. It happens with

00:40:55.580 all those little things. In all those little things, the rot begins. That is what sin does.

00:41:01.440 That is how sin works. And it should be a big wake-up call. When you want to do that,

00:41:05.920 just that little bad thing, just that tiny little, ah, I just want to do a little gossip at work.

00:41:10.980 Just a little bit of, just I want to scream at that guy when I'm driving on the road. A little

00:41:15.920 bit of road rage. I want to use those naughty words. Just that's a big deal. I want to look

00:41:19.900 at some naked ladies on the internet. Ah, I just want to, I want to flirt with that. 1.00

00:41:23.300 and you think you can control it but you can't and eventually left unchecked

00:41:31.440 but for the grace of god you end up like that guy okay speaking of crimes or potential crimes

00:41:38.080 i do want to turn to the cornell seven because you want to talk about shocking turns of providence

00:41:43.840 sonny hostin on the view is suddenly become the voice of reason in this cornell case first though

00:41:48.120 My favorite comment yesterday is from Jimbo Andy, who says, if can be debated, I think it can be

00:41:56.000 debated if the death penalty will deter or reduce crime, but it is a fact that it will stop repeat

00:42:01.700 offenders. That's true. There's no question about that. You don't need a PhD in criminology

00:42:07.660 to know that. Sonny Hostin, well, all of the libs were going after these Cornell kids

00:42:14.120 who engaged in this pretty gross orgy with this girl who appeared pretty willing to do it, 0.99

00:42:20.860 but now she's claiming that she was raped. Well, all the libs are going after these guys. They're 1.00

00:42:25.780 going to reopen the criminal case based on this new civil lawsuit, the civil lawsuit which

00:42:29.320 contradicts apparently what the supposed victim told to the school and the police in the early

00:42:34.940 stages after all the hearings from the schools that were definitely biased against the guys,

00:42:39.460 but didn't find any criminal wrongdoing,

00:42:43.440 Sonny Hosting comes in and says,

00:42:44.680 hey, you know what?

00:42:45.880 They're not guilty.

00:42:48.580 I actually have the statement

00:42:51.020 that Jane Doe wrote at that time.

00:42:56.200 Just give it to us in a sentence. 0.58

00:42:57.820 We don't have a lot of time.

00:43:00.020 It's several pages long.

00:43:01.600 I know, but...

00:43:02.040 It's nine pages long.

00:43:03.060 And I will say that under current New York state law,

00:43:07.000 voluntary intoxication or drug use 0.88

00:43:09.020 and she voluntarily drank a lot.

00:43:11.280 She voluntarily took snorted ketamine 1.00

00:43:14.440 off of one of the boys' body parts.

00:43:17.820 She allowed other boys and consented to other boys

00:43:21.160 snorting ketamine off of her body.

00:43:23.920 So that means if you voluntarily ingest drugs,

00:43:27.040 you voluntarily take alcohol,

00:43:29.900 you can agree to have threesomes,

00:43:32.860 which in her statement, 1.00

00:43:34.820 she agreed to have two separate threesomes.

00:43:37.880 One boy did walk in one young man did walk in and say everybody out. So there was one person that did that and

00:43:45.900 According to her statement three of the young men did not touch her the pictures of these young men who have not been charged

00:43:53.420 Not been adjudicated are being plastered all over the internet. I think people are reporting this story

00:44:00.200 Inaccurately, I think they're reporting it unfairly and while this is something that we have to take very seriously

00:44:05.780 seriously there is no way according to her statement in 2024 that any prosecutor would

00:44:11.560 have brought yeah but she was intoxicated voice of reason sunny austin didn't see that one coming

00:44:16.940 and why is she saying this one i think that maybe some of the news networks learned a lesson from

00:44:23.060 that duke lacrosse case this seems like a repeat of the duke lacrosse case from 2025 years ago

00:44:28.260 when the these prostitutes or strippers came went over to the duke lacrosse house and they said that 0.91

00:44:35.620 the Duke lacrosse team raped them. And the lives of these kids were ruined. And then it turned out 0.99

00:44:40.980 it was fake. They didn't. They hired the strippers, but no one raped anybody. It was just totally

00:44:45.940 made up. And these kids' lives were ruined for nothing. I think maybe the news networks are

00:44:50.800 saying, all right, well, look, when we're faced with basically the exact same case, maybe we should

00:44:54.960 be a little slower to condemn these guys, especially when all the evidence we do have

00:45:00.020 is that they didn't commit a crime. So you've got the conservatives, you have these right-wingers

00:45:06.480 who are saying, hold on, this is just Me Too 2.0, but it's even more absurd because there's no

00:45:11.640 evidence of any criminal wrongdoing here other than drugs and booze. And even here you have the

00:45:17.280 liberals, the leftists. So then the question is, what are we arguing about? What are we talking

00:45:23.220 about when it comes to the Cornell case? Who knows? I mean, they'll maybe reopen the criminal

00:45:28.160 investigation. Maybe they'll prosecute. I suspect they won't, ultimately, for the same reason that

00:45:34.080 they didn't prosecute two years ago, because the evidence just isn't there. This woman is now

00:45:37.840 changing her story and making all sorts of claims in a civil lawsuit. That's to be expected. There's 1.00

00:45:42.400 really not a lot of evidence. There were multiple hearings about this on campus. The campus, which

00:45:46.740 is, especially at that time, inclined to believe the women and to take away the rights of the men,

00:45:52.240 and there's not a lot of evidence there. So what are we talking about?

00:45:55.020 it seems to me that the left is doing what it always does and it is reinventing christian

00:46:02.560 morality from first principles first or second principles i don't know the left comes in in the

00:46:07.800 1960s and they say hey you stodgy christian conservatives your sexual morals and principles 0.97

00:46:13.560 are awful they're terrible we're gonna blow them up now we're gonna have free love and we're gonna 0.98

00:46:17.760 have contraception and we're gonna have lgbt stuff and we're gonna eventually abolish marriage 1.00

00:46:23.380 and redefine it, and we're going to, you, deal with that, you dumb conservatives. This is the 0.99

00:46:28.180 age of Aquarius. We're all going to be liberated. And so we say, okay, we lost. All right, that's

00:46:32.580 fine. The libs redid sexual morality. Okay. I mean, they didn't really remake morality, but they 0.99

00:46:37.480 remade all of our mores and laws and standards. Okay. And then what happens? Everything goes to

00:46:42.860 pot. This is like a Hieronymus Bosch painting. You know, it just, you get the morning, the age

00:46:50.360 of Aquarius. Everything's going to look really, really nice. And you get to the end of the Garden

00:46:53.760 of Earthly Delights, and it's just decadence and decay and filth, and it's so disgusting.

00:46:59.380 And then the libs say, well, this is gross. Hold on. We can't have this. You know, I mean, 0.56

00:47:04.760 look, even if someone didn't violate the letter of the law, they clearly violated some principle,

00:47:09.800 but they don't know how to say it because they refuse to use the language of traditional morality

00:47:15.740 and Christian morality. So they say, no, no, no, it just, something went wrong. And even though

00:47:19.980 the girl said basically the whole time, I am consenting to this. I'm not consenting to that.

00:47:23.780 I do consent to this. I do. The orgy began when she wanted it to. It ended when she wanted it to.

00:47:28.940 The things she wanted to have happen happened. The things she said she didn't want to have happen

00:47:32.400 didn't happen. It's basically as clear-cut a case amid a ketamine-fueled orgy as you can

00:47:39.900 possibly imagine. And they say implausibly, well, even though she said all of those things,

00:47:45.040 even though she affirmatively consented the whole time it has to have been rape it has to

00:47:51.920 it even if she said i'm consenting even if the law says she was consenting it can't have been

00:47:57.180 consensual because we know it was wrong and there you're right it was wrong you're right but you're

00:48:03.900 you're you don't possess the moral language to explain why it was wrong so you're saying

00:48:08.620 something that isn't true and you're trying to prosecute them for a crime they didn't commit

00:48:12.840 but you're you have you do have this modest inkling of a true intuition which is that yeah

00:48:21.200 this is wrong but hey i've got instead of just like redefining words and redefining consent

00:48:27.140 and ex post facto trying to change the law and throw these guys in prison or whatever i have an

00:48:32.440 idea what if we just return to the christian morality that served our civilization for nearly

00:48:38.260 2,000 years. What if we just do that? Because if we do that, your problems will be resolved.

00:48:44.980 Same thing when they complain about, the Libs complain about how women have this double standard. 1.00

00:48:48.900 They're expected to go out there and where they have to go out and work today, but they're also 1.00

00:48:51.940 expected to keep home and cook and clean. And you know, these women, they're expected to go out and 1.00

00:48:56.120 work, but they want to stay home and raise their kids. And this is a horrible double standard. I 0.98

00:48:59.360 say, hey, I've got a solution for you. And you don't need big federal policies for it. And you

00:49:05.620 don't need to fundamentally change human nature. You can just do what women did forever. And men 1.00

00:49:12.860 can do what men did forever, what they're naturally inclined to do, and everyone will

00:49:16.780 be happier. No, no, no, we can't do that. That's conservative and Christian. Okay. All right. So

00:49:21.860 we're just going to keep wrongly reinventing, inaccurately reinventing Christian morality

00:49:30.080 from first principles. Okay. All right. Whatever. Hypocrisy is the tribute vice-based virtue. A lot

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