Ep. 756 - The Big Lie
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Summary
On this day in 2019, the Big Lie of the Trump presidency collapsed. After months of pushing Donald Trump s "big lie," the election was rigged against him. Now, a Republican leader in the House of Representatives is parroting the same phrase in the same sense.
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For months, Democrats have parroted the phrase, the big lie, to refer to any questioning of the
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circumstances surrounding the 2020 election. It's as though they got a sheet of paper,
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they said, this is the phrase, we've all got to use it consistently for the next six months,
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the big lie, the big lie, the big lie. So the big lie is unfortunately alive and well in the
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fever swamps of the far right. Well, on this date, January 10th, 2019,
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the big lie of the Trump presidency collapsed. But just as the president spent months spreading
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his big lie of the election. After months of pushing Donald Trump's big lie, the election
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was rigged against him. No, they're not special. And that's part of the big lie that the president's
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been telling. The big lie, the big lie, the big lie. The big lie is a phrase associated with Hitler.
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So this is just an extension of calling Donald Trump a Nazi or calling him Hitler.
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Ironically, though, because the libs, they know like a very little bit about history,
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but they don't read past the first two sentences. Ironically, the phrase was actually used by
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Hitler in Mein Kampf to refer to something that he was accusing the Jews of doing.
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That is neither here nor there. Now, however, a Republican leader in the House of Representatives
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is parroting the same phrase in the same sense. With Republicans like that, who needs Democrats?
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How much longer will we need to tolerate all these big liars? I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael
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Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday from HouseNHunter24, who says,
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Hey, Michael, listening to you and Ben saved me from thinking this country treats me any less
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because I'm a woman. Thank you. Oh, you're welcome, toots. No, I'm only kidding. That's very,
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that's very nice of you. I'm pleased to hear that. John Wayne had a line about this many decades ago,
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which is he was responding to the hysteria of the second wave feminists who said we lived in a
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patriarchy. And he said, that's insane. America has always been a matriarchy. It always has. We
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defer to women. Women run the home. The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. We elevate women.
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This was always the case in America. This was the case broadly in the West and in the Anglosphere.
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In particular. And it has become less and less so each day. Each day that proceeds, particularly
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since the tumult of the 1960s, since feminism and women's liberation, the country has actually
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gotten worse and worse and worse for women. You can even see this, not that I put great stock into
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social scientific surveys, but you can see this in both absolute terms and in relative terms to the
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happiness of men. Women have gotten less and less happy every single year because now we don't value
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any womanly virtues and we treat women as though they're no different from men in any way.
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And we disregard many of their finest qualities. So yes, I'm glad that we have helped you to see
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So you've heard this stupid phrase, the big lie. It's just another clumsy extension of the libs
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crying that Donald Trump is literally Hitler. And so they all use it and they all get the exact
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same sheet of talking points and they don't have an original idea in their head.
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President Trump, in response to this, appropriated the phrase. He said,
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the 2020 election is the real big lie. That was the gist of his press statement.
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President Trump has done this before. You'll remember the phrase fake news,
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which is now totally associated with Trump, actually started as a left-wing attack on Trump.
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It actually was an attack on us in 2016. The Daily Wire was listed on a little Google doc that was
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going around with other news sites that the left was saying constituted fake news. And people shouldn't
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read us and people shouldn't pay any attention to us. And you heard, oh yes, all the right-wing
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news outlets, they're totally fake news. So Donald Trump appropriated that phrase and said,
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actually CNN is fake news. And he was so effective at that. And it rang so true that now when you think
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of fake news, the first thing that pops into your head is probably going to be CNN. So you get the
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dumb line, you get Trump appropriating it. And then Liz Cheney comes out. Liz Cheney, who is a leader in
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the House of Representatives. She's a sort of minor leader, but she runs the Republican caucus there.
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But she's not really a Republican. She's certainly not a conservative. And she seems to spend most of
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her time attacking fellow Republicans and agreeing with Democrats. Liz Cheney is parroting this phrase.
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She's saying that anyone who parrots Trump's big lie by in any way raising any questions about the
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2020 election, which we all have to admit had a lot of irregularities. Just look at Pennsylvania.
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The way that the election was conducted in Pennsylvania was in direct violation of the
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state constitution. No one's allowed to say that anymore. If you in any way bring that up,
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then you're participating in the big lie. You're basically no different than Adolf Hitler, darn it.
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And quote, you're poisoning our democratic system.
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I tried to be fair to Liz Cheney. I tried to be warm, welcoming, a big tent party supporter that
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says, look, people might have their disagreements on Trump. We got to come together. This woman's got
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to go. This woman has got to go. She is absolute poison to the Republican party. All she does is give
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aid and comfort to the Democrats. All she does is attack the Republicans. She, she won't support the
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party at all. It is part of the broader problem of the, what you might call the neoconservatives
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or the war hawk former Dems in the three legs of the post-war, cold war conservative movement.
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The conservative movement from the end of World War II until the fall of the Berlin Wall
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consisted of what you'd call fusionism. The three-legged stool. You had the traditionalists
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and the religious right, different, but they kind of blur together a little bit.
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You had the economic libertarians and you had the neocons. You had the, the war hawk blue dog
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Democrats who wanted to stop the Soviet Union's imperial ambitions. And that worked all well and
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good for the cold war. Obviously we won the cold war, but the economic priorities of the libertarians
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dominated and the two other groups went along with it. The foreign policy priorities of the
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neoconservatives especially dominated, particularly after the fall of the Berlin Wall, as that coalition
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hobbled along. The other two groups more or less went along with it, but the traditional conservatives
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never got anything. We got very, very little out of it. And by the way, when the traditional
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conservatives started to become a little bit ascendant again, notably during the presidency of
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Donald Trump, what happened? The neocons ran away. They, they abandoned the three-legged stool. So
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I'm talking about people like Bill Kristol. I'm talking about people like Liz Cheney. I'm talking
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about people who, who were more from the George Bush wing, George W. Bush wing of the Republican
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party. People who were more for the bomb the Middle East wing of the Republican party. They just
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jumped ship. The squishy types left. And so just as a matter of party politics, you can't go on in that
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coalition. It's, it's the same problem that you see when a nation descends into civil war. The only way
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self-government works is if people agree to continue to participate, even when you lose on one particular
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issue. If, if this is why the right of secession is incoherent in a, in a republic such as ours,
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if you can just secede when you don't get your own way, then there is no self-government because
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self-government is predicated on the idea that we're going to persuade one another. And sometimes
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I'm going to get my way and sometimes you're going to get your way, but we're still going to remain a
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country because that's the only way that we can, that we can preserve even, even the sort of debate
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and free government that we're talking about. So if, if Liz Cheney is, she keeps showing us her cards
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and so many other of her fellow travelers keep showing her cards, then they can't be part of
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the conservative movement because they're, they're not willing to play ball. They're just,
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they're only willing to either dominate the movement or help the Dems and that's it. So fine,
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if she wants to leave, let her leave, but she certainly shouldn't be in leadership. And frankly,
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I'm not convinced she should be in the house of representatives either. Talking about big lies,
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big, big lies. What is the biggest lie dominating our politics today? Is it that maybe
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there was something a little weird about the 2020 election? You know, just look at the way the
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thing was conducted in various States, notably Pennsylvania. No, no. The biggest lie is the
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racial grievance politics. That's the biggest, it's the one that dominates everything. It's the lie
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that burned the country to the ground last year. It's the lie that permits legal racial discrimination
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in the form of affirmative action against whites and Asians and in favor of blacks and Hispanics.
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It's the lie that persistently tries to rip America apart. And that is exploited by very cynical
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people, almost exclusively on the left to rip America apart. It's the lie that, that our,
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our nation's enemies have always tried to exploit because there is a fault line here,
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right? I'm not denying that there have been racial issues in the country, but the lie is that
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America is fundamentally evil, bigoted. We can never in any way overcome racial issues and that
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America is a white supremacist country. It's just not true. Al Sharpton said it the other day. Al
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Sharpton was present at funeral services for a man who was killed in a officer involved killing.
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These are extraordinarily rare events in the United States. And in cases where the killing was not
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justified, they, they basically do not exist. They're very, very few events where the shooting is not,
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not justified. So Al Sharpton's there and he says, America is a racist country.
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Now, everybody in America is not racist, but are you talking about whether the practice of America's
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racist or the people? Cause the practice of America was built on racism.
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It was against the law for us to read and write. It was against the law for us to name our children
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after us. We were brought here to serve and never get paid. That's how the country was built. What do
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you mean? America is not racist. America was started off racism.
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Al Sharpton is such an odious figure in politics. He's such a leech. He's such a parasite.
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He, he launched his career on a hoax on the Tawana Brawley hoax. He encouraged the riots in Crown
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Heights. He's a liar. He's a thug. He's an extortion artist who, who shakes down corporate America and
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shakes down individuals to fund his ridiculous slush fund. He's just such a horrific character
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in American politics. And he's not that intelligent. But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how'd you like
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to play? He is very clever. He's very shrewd. He's, he's very good at politics. Obviously he's,
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he's managed to make it a long time in politics without it or a long time in his professional life
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without ever producing anything. He's made it very far in his career and worn very fancy suits and
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flown around on very fancy private jets without ever really doing anything other than extorting
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money from people on this premise of racial grievance. But what is he saying? He's saying,
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you're saying America's not racist. What are you talking about? We had slavery. Yeah. So did every
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civilization ever in the history of the world. And many still do. We, we probably had slavery in this
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country for less time than basically any other place on earth. What do you mean? America is not
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racist. Slaves were brought here, right? Yep. That's true. That was a long time ago. And by the
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way, the first officially declared owner of a slave in the American slave system was a black guy. He was
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the first slave owner was a black guy. Isn't that weird? That's a weird thing. I'm not saying that that
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takes away from the racial element, the racial character that would develop in American slavery,
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but the guy's name was Anthony Johnson and he was declared the slave owner of John Kaser. And actually
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neighbors were very concerned about this poor man who was supposed to be an indentured servant and get
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out. And then this guy, Anthony Johnson, who was a black Angolan, went to the court and had this guy,
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John Kaser, declared a slave for life. That's just a weird aspect. Okay. That's a strange thing.
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It's the slavery all over the world. Today, what are we talking about though? What he, what,
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So the big lie, to use a popular phrase, that America is a vicious, awful, racist place and that
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our justice system is totally rotten. The whole country is rotten and therefore the police who
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are the physical representation of law and order and our whole sense of justice in this country,
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therefore they are all evil. This pervades the country such that people now feel that they have
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the right to scream and yell at the cops and interfere in their jobs. I was just going through
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the Jacksonville airport the other day. It was just two days ago. I was flying back from Jacksonville
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and police were arresting some crazy lunatic who was making a big nuisance of himself and certainly
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should have been arrested. And, but he was a black guy. Now, some of the cops were black too. So it's
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not like this was a white supremacist racially split. No, it's, there was a black guy being arrested
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as he should have been because he was making a nuisance of himself in the airport. And what
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happens? A group of people crowds around and starts filming everything and starts screaming at
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the cops. Tells the cops, you don't need to hold them like that. What is this, what does this person
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know about how the cops need to hold people to arrest them? Starts screaming, starts yelling.
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Well, we got an incident like this on video just the other day. Cop pulls a woman over because she's
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using her cell phone while she's driving. And the woman launches a vile stream of invective at the cop.
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You know why I'm being harassed today? Because I was going under the speed limit. I was going
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at 38. Yes, you are, ma'am. Good morning. Which is, and the speed limit is 40 and I was going 38. So
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why are you harassing me? You're correct. I pulled you over because you're a murderer. Yes, I started
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to record because you're a murderer. You can't be on your cell phone while you're driving. I wasn't on
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my phone. I was recording you because you scared me. You can't use your cell phone while you're recording.
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I can record you. May I have your driver's license? It's, it's at my apartment. What's your
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apartment? It's at my home. I'm just taking my son to his. Do you have, do you have your
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driver's license? I, it, I mistakenly left it at home. Do you have a picture of your
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driver's license? Yes, I do. May I have it? And can you call your supervisor, please? I already
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did. He's on his way. Good, because you're a murderer. Okay. And so you're giving me a cell
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phone ticket? Is that why you're harassing me? Not harassment. I am enforcing the law. I have
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the right to and record the police when they're harassing me. By all means, but you can't do it
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while you're driving. I was, I can, I wasn't, doesn't texting or none of that. Do you have,
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you had a picture? And you scared me and made me think you were going to murder me. Okay. Well,
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I'm sorry you feel that way. Well, you're, that's not just a feeling. You're a murderer.
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Does this woman sound like she's afraid that she's going to be murdered? No, I don't, I don't think
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she sounds afraid of anything. I don't think she even sounds afraid that she's going to get a ticket
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because she's playing the race card and she knows that this is a lie. She knows it's a lie that the
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cop is a murderer because if she really thought the cop was a murderer, she'd be crying and shaking in
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her car and she, she wouldn't be screaming at him and, and acting as though everything's going to go
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just fine for her as long as she keeps playing that race card. She knows it's a lie, but it's a lie to her
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advantage and it's a lie that's been incentivized all around the country and the culture. So she's going
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to keep doing it. This is also a point that I think must be made. You hear a lot, particularly
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from BLM, that the cops target black people, right? That's, that's one of the main contentions
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of BLM. And I can, I think a lot of the people who are pushing that idea are just being dishonest and
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trying to achieve radical political ends. But the, there are, I bet people who believe that because
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everyone hates dealing with the cops, everyone, I've been pulled over so many times in my life
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because on occasion I've driven a little faster than the speed limit. Okay. And sometimes maybe
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I've rolled through a stop sign and on one occasion I actually didn't do anything wrong. The cop was
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wrong about the speed limit on a, on a road in New York. This actually happened. I know everyone
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thinks they're always right, but I'll fully admit I've been wrong many times that I've been pulled
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over or that I've seen the speed limit or whatever. There was one time I was actually
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right. And the cop was a big jerk to me. And if I had been steeped in this culture where I was told
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the cops are out to get you, they're out to murder you because the color of your skin, I could see a
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world in which I'd say, you did this to me because of the way I look. You, but no, cops are just out
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there enforcing the law and no one likes getting a ticket. And sometimes the cops get it wrong.
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Not a lot. Very rarely do the cops get it wrong, but that's what happens.
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So, so far in this, in this video, you could chalk this up to this woman being incredibly stupid
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and irresponsible, right? And she's saying, I can, you know, I'm going to try to get out. I know I was
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using my phone, but I'm going to try to get out of it by saying I was recording him because I'm afraid
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he's a murderer. Okay. That's okay. Fine. She's stupid. She's irresponsible. But then in the next
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frame, you see that this woman knows exactly what she's doing. And I'm perfectly legal and I'm
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a teacher. So there. Congratulations. You're a murderer. What's your last name? I can't see
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that there. Well, here you go. Stop shaking. Zoom in on that for me. No, because you're scaring me.
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You're threatening to kill me and my son. Can you give me the... Okay. I'll tell you what,
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you keep smiling. You're on camera. Yeah, you keep, you're trying to threaten to kill me. I'm not
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smiling. You're the one who's crazy. Hold that still. I can't see that. Is this your car? Yes,
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it is. Um, you're trying to say I stole my own car because you're jealous. Yeah, I don't think so.
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You wait for me right here. Okay. You're jealous. You got the citation. All you need to do is just
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give your signature. He's only citing you for using your cell phone while you're driving. That's it.
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Here you go, ma'am. Sign inside the red box right there. For him being a Mexican racist. What is that
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name? Gasso. Sign the citation, ma'am. Here you go, Mexican racist. You're always going to be a Mexican.
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You'll never be white. You know that, right? You'll never be white, which is what you really
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want to be. You want to be white. Have a good day. You want to be white. You want to be white. This
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woman's so awful. If she's a teacher, certainly she should be fired. Well, Michael, does that mean
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you're for cancel culture? Yup. I'm for canceling her. You bet. Because by the way, just when some
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people throw this at conservatives and they say, well, no, you support cancel culture. I have never said
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that people should not face consequences for what they do. I've simply said that the standards are wrong.
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The old standards are better. The traditionals, and by the way, just to even take it out of an
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historical framework, standards of virtue are good and standards of vice are bad. So yeah,
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the current cancel culture where you get canceled for saying true and good things, that's bad.
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The old cancel culture where you got canceled for being a communist, that's great. I love that.
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We need more of that. So I hope that that happens. I hope that this woman does not ever teach a
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student again, if she really is a teacher, but you hear it in her voice. She says,
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oh no, I'm just doing this because you're, you're trying to murder me and my son.
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No, you're not. She's giddy. Well, she says it. She clearly doesn't realize that she's,
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that the cop is wearing a body camera. You know, the libs pushed for the body cameras on cops,
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I think because the very ignorant ones among them, the gullible ones among them believed that the
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cops really are just out there murdering people all the time. The body cameras are going to help
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the cops because they're going to show cynical women like this for what they are, which is trying
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to get out of a ticket by making a horrific accusation. And then ironically, while she's
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invoking racism and racism and racism, what does she do at the end? She says, you're a Mexican.
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You're a dirty, rotten Mexican. You're not white. But do you see what's beneath that?
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It's not enough to just say, see the left, they're the real racists. See, she's a racist,
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but what she's doing here is she is expressing her offense at the idea that this Mexican cop
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would not embrace primarily racial politics inside with her. I think she's black
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over the white guy. The dig there is not, I hate Mexicans. The dig there is you're supposed to be
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with me. Why are you not with me? We're supposed to team up regardless of the truth, regardless of
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justice. We're supposed to team up against Whitey. So why are you taking Whitey's side? You'll never
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be white. You just want to be white, right? That's what she's saying at the end of that.
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That view, how vicious, how despicable, how totally cynical where she's saying,
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forget that obviously she's been lying the whole time and sort of gleefully so.
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But then to say, all right, you, all right, I'm going to tell you what this is really about.
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You're a Mexican. You're supposed to be on my side, but you're on the white guy's side. It's wrong.
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And of course the cop doesn't see it that way. The cop says, I'm on the side of justice
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and you are violating the law. She said, I have every right to film you. Yeah, ma'am,
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but you don't, you're harassing me. I'm enforcing the law.
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Now, that is a new hierarchy. That is race politics. And it is, and that woman may as well
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admit directly that the notion of white supremacy is a farce. It's a joke. It's a joke to her.
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She just knows that the lie of white supremacy might help her get out of a speeding ticket or a
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cell phone ticket rather. That's where we are. And you're not allowed to talk about that big lie.
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And conservatives don't totally get off the hook here either. Because while it is true that the
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notion of white supremacy or systemic anti-black racism or whatever, that is a complete canard.
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It's completely ridiculous. But the reason it works is because conservatives are a little bit
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tone deaf on the racial issue. And the reason that they're a little bit tone deaf on the racial issue
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is because they've actually thrown away the great insights of conservatism. They've just embraced
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this kind of shallow, radical individualism that says, hey, every generation, the world is born
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Tim Scott gave an okay State of the Union response. It's the worst job in American politics,
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and he was a little squishy on some points, and he was, he was fine on others, and okay, it was,
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it was whatever. He then went on the news shows, the Sunday shows, to develop his thesis, because
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the, the State of the Union response didn't totally land, and I felt he made better points on the Sunday
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shows than he did even in that response. Tim Scott was asked about whether or not America really is
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racist. He had a, an important line in that State of the Union response. He said, America is not a racist
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country. Well, what does that mean? Al Sharpton disagrees with you, Tim Scott. Defend yourself.
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The question is, is there a lingering effect after a couple of centuries of racism and discrimination in
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this nation? The answer is absolutely. The question we should be debating and fighting over is how do we
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resolve those issues going forward? One side says, I'm going to take from some to give to others.
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First, fighting bigotry with bigotry is hypocrisy. It just doesn't work. The second, our side, what I
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suggested is, let's expand opportunity and make sure that we are fully equipped for the challenges
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of the future. Okay, so a lot of this is just boilerplate. Look, there were problems in the past,
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and now we've got to do better, and we want to expand opportunity, and the libs want to steal money
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from people. But he's making an important point here that a lot of conservatives don't want to hear.
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Remember, there is a lingering effect of slavery. Just as there is a lingering effect in the world of
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all sin, when you commit any kind of sin, there is the eternal effect of that on your soul. Where are
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you going to go someday when you shake off this mortal coil? But there is also the temporal effect
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of sin. If you steal a candy bar, that is going to imperil your mortal soul, your eternity, right?
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But that will also harm the shopkeeper that you stole it from. So you can go to confession, and God
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can forgive you of stealing the candy bar. But you've got to do some penance. You've got to make up for
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that, because the temporal effects of that sin still remain. The same is true of slavery and of many
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other problems. Slavery is not the unique problem in American history. There are many other problems
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as well. Conservatives once understood that. Conservatives once understood that history
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matters. I think about it when I think of my own family's history in the United States.
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Half my family came over on the Mayflower. Half the family came over on a sardine boat
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from Italy, right? So you've got the Irish and the Italian immigrants come over, but you've also got
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the English settlers who came over early and settled the country. That gives me a certain perspective on
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the history of this country. One feels a certain stake in the country if one's forebears helped to
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build it. One feels a certain responsibility, a certain sense of being at home. If my ancestors
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came over on slave ships, I would have a different view of the country. Now, I might still love the
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country. I might still go so far as to say what some people have said, that they are glad that their
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ancestors were brought over on slave ships because it gave them the opportunity to live in America and
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they didn't have to grow up in some awful country in Africa. You could even say that while still saying
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my family's history in this country, my traditional relationship to this country is different than
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the people whose family came over on the Mayflower. And we have to deal with that. We have to recognize
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that the past affects the present and that will affect the future. In a way, I think when
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conservatives deny this, we're adopting a kind of progressive view of politics, which says that
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the past doesn't matter at all. Forget about the past. Past is bad. Just ignore it. And we're just
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going to only look toward the future. Now, what the conservative insight here is, is that we want to take
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what is best from the past and conserve that. And we want to defer to the tradition, to the wisdom of the
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ages, to the democracy of the dead. We don't want to just trap ourselves in the past. Nostalgia is
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history after a few drinks, but we also don't want to discard all of it and start toppling the statues
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and say America is a terrible place. I think if conservatives can grapple with that, we will have
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a bit more credibility when we point out that people like Al Sharpton are just liars. They're just
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total race hustling liars. And that the idea that the cops are out there shooting innocent black
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people. It's just not true. It's just a complete lie. And I think if you, if you go far enough as
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to recognize people's legitimate sense of history and tradition, a deeply conservative impulse,
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then our arguments on where the country is right now and where it's going are going to be much,
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much more persuasive. Speaking of history, speaking of American history, Rick Santorum is in trouble.
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Rick Santorum, former senator from Pennsylvania, former presidential candidate who got pretty far in the
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race. Now he goes on CNN sometimes. Poor guy, poor Rick, but very important politician has very good
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things to say. He was speaking at a Young America's Foundation event and he mentioned that the history
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of the United States derives from the civilization of Europe. It derives from the West. It's in our DNA.
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You know, if you think of other countries like Italy and Greece and China and Turkey and places like that,
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they've all sort of changed over time. I mean, they've been, they've been there for cent, for millennia
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in many cases. And their culture has sort of evolved over time. But not us. We came here and created a
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blank slate. We, we birthed a nation from nothing. I mean, there was nothing here. I mean, yes, we have
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Native Americans, but, but candidly that, that there isn't much Native American culture in American
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culture. It, it was born of the people who came here pursuing religious liberty to practice their
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faith, to live as they ought to live. Of course, of course this is true. Our publicist, Jason Campbell,
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over at Media Matters, clipped this out as though this were some terrible thing. Everything he said there
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were totally, totally right. My only quibble with Rick here is he's not going quite to the right
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enough. He's, I think he's being a little too conciliatory. But of course, the American culture
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that we have is not the culture of the Iroquois. Okay. It's not the culture of the Algonquin.
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It's not the culture of the Cherokee. The culture that we have in this country derives from
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the English. And then other immigrant groups come in and that, and they're, look, they're, you know,
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people have dream catchers, right? So there are these little sort of ornamentations of Native American
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culture. For a while, there was a movement to pretend that our American system of government
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derives from the, from the Iroquois or something like that in New York, which is just not true.
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It means the Iroquois had a kind of confederacy. It is not true. The Iroquois were a bellicose band
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of cannibal warriors. Okay. These were really tough hombres and I, I have respect for them as I have
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respect for all sorts of different peoples, but we did not adopt the Iroquois system of government.
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Our system of government comes primarily from the English, which is what Rick Santorum is saying.
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And that's true. So what on earth could we disagree with here? Well, Rick's CNN colleagues,
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they, they couldn't finish watching that video without, without beginning to sputter. How dare you
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say that Europeans founded this country? No contrition. Didn't talk about, you know,
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the suffering that Native Americans have had to deal with in this country. It was, I mean,
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Rick Santorum, really? Who did he think, did he actually think it was a good idea for him to come
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on television and try to whitewash the whitewash that he whitewashed? I mean, it was, it was horrible.
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It was horrible and insulting. And I apologize to the viewers who were insulted by it because I was
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sitting, I was sitting in my office furious because he's done it so many times, so many times. And it's
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just, I'm sorry. It was just, it was so egregious and insulting and everything that we talk about,
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about the founding of this country. Europeans did not found, found this country. It was here.
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The Native Americans had this country before the Europeans came. Yeah. The Europeans conquered the
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country. They colonized it, but they didn't, they, it was, it had nothing to do with the founding of
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this country. What is Don Lemon even saying? I don't even know what he's trying to say because
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he's saying on the one hand, Europeans didn't found this country. George Washington was Mongolian.
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Come on. You know, John Adams, man. He was, he was Brazilian. Uh, no, I think they were just
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guys of European stock. Governor Bradford, you know, man, he was, where was he from? He was Russian.
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Uh, no, he wasn't. He was, uh, he was English. Uh, so he's saying on the one hand, Europeans didn't
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found this country when obviously they did, but then he says they conquered this country,
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but the Indians were here. Oh yeah, that's true. And by the way, it wasn't just an outright conquest
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that when, when the pilgrims came on the Mayflower, they actually formed a very mutually beneficial
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alliance with Massasoit and with his, his Indian tribe. And they actually allied together against
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other Indian tribes. And they actually grew that alliance for many years until Massasoit's son
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made a stupid political decision and launched King Philip's war. And by the way, some Indians
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allied with the settlers in King Philip's war even, but that destroyed the peace between the
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Indians and the settlers. And by the way, I'm, I'm not totally denying that the settlers learned
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something from the Indians around Plymouth colony or from the Iroquois for that matter. I'm not denying
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that they, that they observed these people and saw some of their customs and that had some effect
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on American life. But the system of government, the culture of the United States comes from primarily
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England. How can anyone doubt that? Can you say therefore that Italy, man, Italians didn't found
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Italy. What are you talking? No, there were, there were peoples there before who were conquered.
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What about the Etruscans? Uh, yeah, okay, I guess, but they got, yeah, right. They got conquered.
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And then the country as we have it today is not, we're not living in the Cherokee nation.
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We're not living in the Massachusetts. We took the name for one of our states, but we're not living
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in the Massachusetts tribe, the Wampanoag tribe. We're not living in the Iroquois Confederacy.
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We're living in America, which is an Italian word from Amerigo Vespucci, the Italian, right?
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We are, we have our capital in the district of Columbia, comes from Columbus, another Italian
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guy, by the way. We, the district of Columbia is in Washington, Washington of Anglo stock.
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Yeah, of course it's a European country. He's, he's not, obviously the, the historical points
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he's making are very stupid, but what he's doing here is not even arguing about historical points
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because he doesn't know very much about them. He's doing what Hannah, Nicole Jones did or
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Nicole Hannah Jones, rather the 1619 project girl in the New York times. He is trying to reframe the
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history. What he, instead of disagreeing with Rick Santorum on the point of who founded America,
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he's disagreeing on the value of that. Is it good or is it bad? Rick Santorum is saying,
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yeah, this is a good country. Here's who founded it. And this is a good country. And what Don Lemon
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is saying is, no, here's how, here's who founded it. Sure. I guess Rick, you're right, but it's a
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bad country because it was founded on conquest, you know, like every other country in the history
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of the world. That is a big lie because it is a good country. And the, the peoples that were
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populating this country before the settlers arrived were by any standard of virtue, not, not living in
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some Edenic paradise. They weren't living in the avatar world. And then the awful mean Europeans
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came in and destroyed it. No, the, the people who came to the United States to America civilized this
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place, brought the light of God, their religion brought civilization to this place. And because
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it's a fallen world, there were acts of sin. There were sins committed. There was violence. There was
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injury. There are bad things go along just like there were bad things going on in the Iroquois
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Confederacy, just like there were bad things going on down South in the Aztecs who were ripping out
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human hearts by 80,000 at a clip in human sacrifices. Yeah, there were bad things going
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on, but it was a good thing that the country was founded. That's a reframing. You know,
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Rick Santorum is quite Catholic. This informs his view of the world. He's an actual Catholic.
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We have a president now who is a fake Catholic. His name is Joe Biden, but the Washington Post
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doesn't want to admit that. So Joe Biden is in hot water right now because Joe Biden is in,
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in outright obstinance against the church's teaching on the issue of abortion. And the issue
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of abortion is not like other issues. Pope John Paul II pointed this out. It's not just one issue
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among many. The right to life is a prerequisite for all of the other rights. One may not disagree.
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Like Pope Benedict, for instance, said that Catholics may have a legitimate disagreement about the death
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penalty. Pope John Paul II said the same thing. Doctors of the church have explicitly defended the death
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penalty. Blessed Pope Pius IX carried out many death penalties. And so Catholics can disagree on that
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as a prudential matter. Catholics cannot disagree on abortion. And Joe Biden does. And he celebrates
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abortion and he expands the killing of innocent little babies in this country. So the bishops,
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finally, I'm so pleased to say this, the bishops are standing up and saying,
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we're going to have to deal with Joe Biden here. And here's how it was presented in the Washington
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Post. A rising group of right-wing US Catholic bishops is colliding with a very Catholic president
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who supports abortion rights. Right-wing group of bishops colliding with a very Catholic
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president. Everything about this is untrue. Everything about this is a lie, a very big lie,
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actually. It is not right-wing bishops who are doing this. It is bishops who believe in the
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Catholic faith, who believe in the teaching of the church. It is just bishops. You just say
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bishops. And they're not colliding on this issue of morals and faith. It's not, it's not like, well,
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you got the president on one hand and you got the bishops on the other. That's not how the Catholic
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church works. The bishops are bringing the president who is a member of their flock into line.
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They're not on equal footing here. The bishops are reprimanding or showing that they may reprimand
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the president. And the very Catholic, he's not particularly Catholic at all. He goes to mass.
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He apparently receives communion, which is eating his own damnation to use the scriptural line and,
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and the teaching of the church. And the bishops in an act of compassion are suggesting telling him to
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not receive the Eucharist until he stops living in the state of scandal and sin and changes his views
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and goes to confession. An exact flip here, but we are told he's a very Catholic president because
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it is, on the one hand, we're told it's very bad to be Catholic, right? Dianne Feinstein yells at Amy
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Coney Barrett, who is the dogma lives loudly within her, the Catholic dogma. We're told it's very bad to
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be Catholic, but then Joe Biden is very Catholic. But the reason that the left says that Joe Biden's very
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Catholic in this admiring way is because they know Joe Biden's not very Catholic, that his real
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religion is progressivism. Joe Biden is not the only professed Catholic in politics who is in trouble
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for violating basic teachings of the church. Nancy Pelosi, other prominent Democrats in trouble too.
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Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone is now put out a pastoral letter and not calling out Nancy Pelosi by name,
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but he is the archbishop in Pelosi's area. And he is saying that politicians who are in violation of the
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church's teaching here need to stop receiving Holy Communion. He writes, your Catholic, and he's being very
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complimentary in this, he's being very diplomatic. He says, your Catholic ideals inspire you in your work to help
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those who experience discrimination, violence, and injustice. And you deserve the gratitude of your
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fellow Catholics and our nation for this service. But we cannot empower the weak by crushing the
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weakest. If you find that you are unwilling or unable to abandon your advocacy for abortion,
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you should not come forward to receive Holy Communion. To publicly affirm the Catholic faith while at the same
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time publicly rejecting one of its most fundamental teachings is simply dishonest. It makes them all
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a bunch of big liars. This is what it does. And it is not just, this is not just a pure act of
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punishment designed to harm Biden or Pelosi. It's quite the opposite actually. It's designed to help
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them. It is an act of compassion and mercy to tell them to stop receiving Holy Communion and to tell
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them to get their act in order. Because the more that they persist in the scandal, the greater damage
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they will do to the society, to the faithful, and to themselves. Pelosi and Biden, while professing
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their faith from time to time in Catholicism, have a different religion. That is the religion of
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progressivism. And they might practice both in this kind of weird, syncretic way where Biden goes to mass,
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right? But he doesn't live the faith. Even basically, we all stumble, but he stumbles obstinately in
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scandal, refuses to even acknowledge the teachings of the church. The White House has the temerity to
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say, yes, the president disagrees with the church on abortion, on the definition of marriage, on this,
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on that. Oh, he disagrees with the church. As though that's some casual thing. If you're a Catholic,
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if you really believe in the Catholic faith, that's not a casual thing. But they don't.
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When their syncretic religion, the Catholicism and the progressivism, when they come into conflict,
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guess which religion wins? It's the progressivism. And that is our state church. That is our dominant
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church. And the high priest of it, I mentioned this during a speech at the Young Americans
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Foundation a month or so ago. Their high priest is Anthony Fauci, who instead of the pectoral cross,
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wears a stethoscope, and instead of the cassock, wears a white lab coat. Well, John Oliver is very
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upset. You know, John Oliver, that marginal, I couldn't, I couldn't even say he's marginally funny.
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John Oliver, who is a British guy, who scolds Americans about our system of government.
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He's very upset because Joe Rogan the other day, using common sense, said that if young people are
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looking at their risk of the, of contracting or having serious complications from the coronavirus,
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then they probably don't need to be too worried about it, particularly when they're making decisions
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on the vaccine. That's all he said. Perfectly ordinary, makes perfect sense. John Oliver,
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absolutely furious. How dare you listen to Joe Rogan?
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The reason we still see mask and distancing recommendations is that the CDC is being
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cautious and wants to be sure that it is not spreading bullsh** around during a global pandemic
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like a frozen dinner duke with a TV show. Stop listening to what Joe Rogan tells you.
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He's a f***ing moron. And those are his words, not mine.
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Yeah, stop, stop listening to, I don't know, I guess he's, he's become like kind of cockney.
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Stop listening. Yeah, well now listen here, you, uh, don't listen to Joe Rogan because,
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you need to listen to John Oliver. Does that make sense to you? No, I don't think that makes
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much sense at all. Why on earth? Joe Rogan is much smarter than John Oliver. I ain't saying that
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Joe Rogan is, uh, you know, not necessarily a Rhodes scholar or something, or that he's in the
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academy or that he's a scientist or a scholar. I'm just saying he's definitely smarter than John
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Oliver. John Oliver has never made an interesting point ever that I have watched. And he's very rarely
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made even a slightly funny point. His, his entire brand of comedy is just saying otherwise unfunny
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lines loudly with profanity interlaced. But that is, it's such a crutch in comedy. You'll notice that
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the best comedians don't need to do that. I'm thinking of, sometimes they do. I'm not saying
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the best comedians are totally clean. They might use profanity, but they don't rely on the profanity,
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right? The joke is the joke and maybe the profanity embellishes it or something. But with John
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Oliver, he doesn't have a joke really. He's got these kind of weak liners. Samantha Bee,
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who's another Daily Show alumna, she, she does the same thing. She just says things loudly and
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with profanity as if that makes a joke, but it doesn't. So why are we listening to John Oliver?
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Well, because John Oliver is parroting what the CDC says. So if you're parroting what the CDC says,
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that, that makes you really smart. That makes you really trustworthy because Fauci and the CDC,
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they're infallible. They've contradicted themselves many times over the last year on this very issue
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of coronavirus. Fauci comes out, he says, do not wear the mask ever. Don't wear it. It's stupid
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and dumb. I'm paraphrasing, but only slightly. Then a few weeks later, he says, you have to wear
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the mask. And then when he was asked, well, why did you change your mind? What did he say? He said,
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well, because I wanted the nurses to have masks and not you idiot peasants. So, but now you can wear
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them. Listen to me and you can believe me because I would never lie to you except what I just said.
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Again, paraphrasing, but only slightly. I, to me, Fauci and all these guys have basically zero
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credibility left. And anybody who takes them seriously, like John Oliver has very little
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credibility. And Joe Rogan has much more credibility because at least he thinks for himself
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on many occasions. But if you're a, if you're an adherent to that progressive faith,
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then that's the way it goes. You know, you know where this progressive faith really exposes itself
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in this gender issue. A woman just went viral on TikTok because her six-year-old daughter
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Are you a boy or are you a girl? I don't know. I don't know who I am. You don't know who
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you are? Who do you think you are? I feel like I'm a boy, but I feel like you. You feel like
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you're a boy? What makes you think that? So the caption here is my six-year-old daughter
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asks me if I think she looks like a boy. I asked her, do you want to look like a boy?
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Her response left me speechless. Does it count? Okay, it counts. That's fine. It's available
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now for pre-order, by the way, my upcoming book. The subtitle is Controlling Words, Controlling
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Minds. This woman has left me somewhat speechless. I'll regain my speech and then give my thoughts
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on her. This constitutes child abuse. But this woman might not even know what she's doing.
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She might really buy into this idea that little children have the ability to freely consent to
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major sexual decisions, which is preposterous. But you might have the idea that little children
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know more about reality than adults do. Maybe they know more than this adult woman does.
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And she might really believe that who we really are has nothing to do with our physical bodies.
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But that is wrong. That's a different religion. That is a big, fat lie. And as long as we've got
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Republicans who have all their guns, there are all their rhetorical guns trained on other Republicans
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defending these absolutely absurd lies on the left, much bigger lies than anything the right's been
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telling, then those people are no use to the conservative movement. I'm Michael Knowles.
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