The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 757 - Divorce, American Style

00:00:00.000 Bill and Melinda Gates are getting divorced. Those crazy kids just ain't going to make it. 1.00

00:00:06.000 They are asking for privacy right now, which is ironic given that they don't seem to care 0.79

00:00:10.180 very much about anybody else's privacy on a whole host of matters, not even just tech,

00:00:14.880 but whole aspects of public policy. However, the reason the Gates divorce matters and they're 1.00

00:00:21.200 asking for privacy matters is this actually is not a private matter. And the idea that it is

00:00:27.820 a private matter lies at the heart of a lot of our political problems. I'm Michael Knowles. This

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00:02:15.260 We no longer believe we can grow together as a couple in the next phase of our lives.

00:02:23.500 Say Bill and Melinda Gates in a joint statement on their divorce. 0.82

00:02:28.620 Have you ever heard more ridiculous boomer nonsense than that? What does that even, what 1.00

00:02:35.840 does that mean? We, we no longer believe we can grow, grow together. You're in your sixties.

00:02:43.100 Bill is, I think Melinda Gates is in her fifties. A lady never tells. 1.00

00:02:47.380 What does grow together? Like you're some 14 year old child in school. Look, I just got to find

00:02:53.360 myself. I got to grow. No, you're married. You have children. You have,

00:02:56.260 you more than maybe any other married couple in the world or more than the vast majority have

00:03:03.140 built something together, but now you need to grow together. What does that mean in the next,

00:03:09.180 what is the next phase of your life? You know, the next 20 years, what are you going to do? You're

00:03:14.120 going to start going to Woodstock or something. You're going to, you're going to really explore and

00:03:18.740 just, no, you're married. Like cut it out. Ridiculous boomer nonsense. The boomers, 0.97

00:03:26.260 did this. I'm serious. No fault. Divorce was not permitted anywhere in this country until 1969.

00:03:35.460 1969, California, of course, becomes the first state to create no fault divorce. Before that,

00:03:42.340 if you wanted to get divorced, you had to have a reason for it because divorce is not just a private

00:03:48.360 matter because marriage is not just a private matter. Marriage is a public contract. Marriage

00:03:53.440 is a political act that you go in front of people. You stand on the altar. You make these vows,

00:04:01.180 these permanent vows before, not just all the people around you, not just the whole community,

00:04:05.860 which is the real political aspect here, but before God. And then you have the temerity to,

00:04:12.800 well, this is just private. It's not just private. You don't invite all of your friends to private

00:04:17.380 acts. Whenever you do some private acts, you know, that you want to keep very private in your own home,

00:04:21.280 do you invite the whole neighborhood? No, you don't. But marriage is a public act.

00:04:27.360 The state of California decided to make it easier to get divorced in only in 1969. But for the vast

00:04:34.880 majority of our country's history, for the vast majority of our civilization's history,

00:04:38.740 divorce was very difficult to obtain when it was not outright illegal.

00:04:42.020 The reason that England split away from the Catholic church and cemented the Protestant 0.97

00:04:48.980 revolution is because Henry VIII wanted to get a new wife and the Pope said, no, you can't do that.

00:04:54.520 So Henry, he did not, I guess he didn't get divorced. He just ordered a nice sharp guillotine

00:04:59.220 from France and then had his new, his new marriage. There have been some people in recent years who,

00:05:08.260 many, many people in recent years who have said that the conservative answer on marriage

00:05:12.900 is to get the government out of marriage altogether because of these impulses to change

00:05:17.780 the definition of marriage or to weaken the bonds of marriage or to make marriage mean something very

00:05:21.640 different than it does. Get the government out of marriage. Marriage and the family are the bedrock 0.94

00:05:30.240 political institution. If the government, if the politics does not have something to say about

00:05:37.240 the fundamental political institution, then it doesn't have anything to say about anything. It

00:05:41.780 is just an incoherent statement to say the government needs to get out of marriage. Marriage is the 1.00

00:05:47.080 fundamental building block of society. And our politics, the point of politics is for us to shape

00:05:53.560 our society, for us to make sense of our society and all get along and live together.

00:05:57.980 There is no such thing as a politics that has nothing to say about marriage, but we see the

00:06:03.680 weakening of marriage through no-fault divorce. This is a very bad turn of events. Do you think

00:06:08.420 society has gotten much better since the social and sexual revolutions of the 1960s? Or has it gotten

00:06:15.400 a little bit worse? Maybe something's got better, something's got worse. Well, where are we now?

00:06:21.320 Are we in a period of ascendancy or a period of decline? We know that marriage rates are at all-time

00:06:26.740 lows. We know that divorce is pervasive. We know that birth rates have absolutely plummeted. We know

00:06:32.280 that social stability is quite low. Just look at how they burned the country down, how the radical

00:06:37.780 leftists burned the country down last year. A little stability wouldn't be such a bad thing.

00:06:43.460 And amid this total overhaul of the institution of marriage, of the family,

00:06:49.660 Meghan Markle is writing a children's book about, I kid you not, the importance of family.

00:06:55.840 Meghan Markle, the biological weapon that the United States obviously engineered to destroy

00:07:03.260 the British monarchy once and for all. That's for 1812, buddies. We're going to send you right in 0.98

00:07:07.760 there and break up the most legally stable family in the world. The most, the family for whom their

00:07:17.260 stability is the most important in the world because it has reverberations throughout the entire

00:07:22.320 United Kingdom. Meghan Markle, who broke up that family, is now writing a book about the importance

00:07:29.500 of family. The book is called The Bench. It's coming out on June 8th because we are shameless

00:07:37.360 in this society and have no idea what we're talking about anymore. You'll hear a lot of people say,

00:07:43.560 look, we support all different types of families now. Look, it's just what we've done. It's not that

00:07:50.380 we've destroyed the family. We're just now, it's just family means a lot of different things. No,

00:07:55.240 no. Family is a very stable thing. The family has a basis in nature, right? When a man and a woman love

00:08:03.560 each other very much, they come together, they raise the kids. If you want to raise the kids in a 0.68

00:08:06.800 flourishing way, in a way that is just and is best, most conducive to their flourishing, then you remain

00:08:15.720 together in monogamy. You keep strong bonds throughout your whole family. That creates a strong society

00:08:22.540 and then you can have a stable nation on top of that. And what we want is we want all the political

00:08:28.340 goodies. We want all the nice things that come from marriage and family, but we don't want any of

00:08:33.200 the work because contra to what we're hearing from Bill and Melinda Gates here, marriage is not just

00:08:42.640 about how you grow in the phases of your feels, man, you know, it's not that. It's about making a

00:08:52.980 commitment and recognizing your duty and obligation and fulfilling it before God and to a lesser degree,

00:09:01.340 but still quite important before the political community. Speaking of children, did you know, did you know

00:09:10.520 that your children are being exposed to vile, really sick sexual content on television and in the popular

00:09:18.520 culture? Yeah. No, I'm not talking about all the crazy drag queen story hour stuff. No, I'm not, no, I'm not 0.69

00:09:24.200 talking about that. I'm not talking about all the weird stuff that they see on the cartoon channels. I'm talking

00:09:29.060 about Snow White. Oh yeah. So Disneyland is reopening. Disneyland after being closed for seven

00:09:35.380 zillion days because of stupid COVID. And Disneyland has this Snow White ride that has, according to this 0.99

00:09:44.240 columnist in San Francisco Gate, a big problem. Oh, this is, do you know what the problem is? You already

00:09:50.100 know because you pay close attention to politics. You already know what ridiculous gripe this columnist is 0.99

00:09:56.360 going to have. The new ride includes more, includes a more comprehensive storyline. And that's the 0.79

00:10:03.940 problem. The new grand finale of the Snow White enchanted wish is the moment when the prince finds

00:10:09.560 Snow White asleep under the queen's evil spell and gives her true love's kiss to release her from the

00:10:15.540 enchantment. A kiss he gives her without her consent while she's asleep, which cannot possibly be true

00:10:25.460 love if only one person knows that it's happening. Haven't we already agreed that consent in early

00:10:31.820 Disney movies is a major issue? That teaching kids that kissing when it's not been established that both 0.95

00:10:37.640 parties are willing to engage is not okay. Okay. I can't. It's, I do have to keep going on. I can't

00:10:44.700 stop. It's hard to understand why the Disneyland of 2021, the current year, no less would choose to

00:10:51.120 add a scene with such old fashioned ideas as Prince Charming kissing Snow White. It's rape. 0.99

00:11:00.100 Did you know Snow White is about rape? According to people who do not understand anything about men and

00:11:07.980 women, love, love, marriage, family, or anything else in society. As to the matter of consent,

00:11:16.540 it just as a pure plot matter, Snow White is under this evil spell where she's just stuck there 0.97

00:11:24.700 forever, right? I, I think that given the choice between remain permanently under an evil spell and

00:11:31.980 get kissed by a hot guy, I'm pretty sure Snow White would choose the latter. I don't think that we need to,

00:11:37.680 like, have a survey. I don't think we need scientific and philosophical investigations

00:11:42.260 into this. It's better. The hot guy should kiss her. That's a better choice. But beyond that,

00:11:48.020 what's really at the heart here is that in our liberal society, we have exalted consent to be

00:11:53.240 not just a good, consent is a good, we have exalted it to be the only good. To the exclusion of virtue,

00:12:00.620 which we're told we can't know, to the exclusion of the good, the true, and the beautiful, which we're

00:12:03.580 told that we can't know anything about, only consent matters. And we have debased consent to,

00:12:08.380 to involve a, a redefinition of liberty as licentiousness, an idea that we have the right

00:12:15.060 to consent to do all sorts of evil things, even if they harm ourselves or harm society, 0.61

00:12:19.340 because that's true liberty, according to the modern, ridiculous, liberal definition.

00:12:23.880 Consent is all that matters. Marriage, family, raising children, building a life together,

00:12:29.180 that doesn't matter. The moment that you withdraw your consent, you can rip up the contracts. Well,

00:12:34.160 if you do that, you rip up the social contract to use the liberal description of society and more to

00:12:40.140 it, you rip up society itself. Very, very perverse, ridiculous, risible, totally laughable idea. 0.97

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00:14:06.600 We were just talking about romance and consent and marriage. Well,

00:14:12.200 marriage is getting an overhaul even as you get into marriage. Tiffany is releasing their first ever

00:14:19.240 men's engagement rings. So, you know, you know, typically for those, for those youths in the

00:14:27.360 audience or those people who have remained single, who have been living under a rock. When you get

00:14:32.560 married, what happens? The man goes out and buys a ring and he proposes marriage and the woman either 0.91

00:14:37.980 accepts or smacks him across the face and says no. And then she puts the ring on and then you go get

00:14:43.100 married. And then you can now, now both parties wear a wedding ring, though that wasn't always the

00:14:49.580 case. But only the woman wears the engagement ring. Well, that's changing. I have had, so I've

00:14:56.240 got to watch my words here. I've had some liberal friends of mine who are men engage in this process

00:15:01.720 already. The men have worn an engagement ring because they say, well, if the woman wears an

00:15:07.940 engagement ring, I should wear an engagement ring too because men and women are exactly the same and

00:15:12.180 completely indistinguishable. So, of course, whatever the woman does, the man has to do. 0.66

00:15:15.700 Whatever the man does, the woman has to do. Okay. I don't, don't agree with that approach. Don't 1.00

00:15:22.340 agree with that anthropology, but I understand it. I understand the, the, the reasoning there.

00:15:28.020 Now, Tiffany, by coming out and saying, here is a men's engagement ring, they're taking this beyond

00:15:33.700 a sort of personal eccentricity and saying this could be a new social tradition. This could be a new

00:15:39.860 aspect of proposing. Now, the, the men's engagement rings, it's called the Charles,

00:15:46.160 Charles Tiffany, and it includes emerald cut and round diamonds up to five carats. So I don't,

00:15:51.820 you'd have to be pretty blingy here. Who is this aimed at? For the straight fellas in the audience, 1.00

00:15:58.960 would you wear the Charles Tiffany engagement ring? Probably not, right? But I don't think that,

00:16:06.240 I don't think straight guys are the audience here. Maybe some feminist guys who think that men and 1.00

00:16:13.100 women have to do exactly the same thing. But I think it's, it's probably the reason for this is 1.00

00:16:16.680 because we have now from the Supreme Court redefined marriage to include not just monogamous

00:16:21.940 unions of husbands and wives, but also monogamous unions of the same sex. And so because of this,

00:16:32.120 if you, you know, if you're a man proposing to another man, it's a little like, who's going to

00:16:35.680 do it? Which guy is going to do it? If you're now saying that we are going to redefine and expand

00:16:42.380 the institution of marriage to include monogamous same sex unions, it does raise a lot of questions

00:16:46.880 because sexual difference has always been important to marriage. It's always been at the heart of

00:16:52.480 marriage. Even just to the basic question, who's going to propose the marriage and who's going to

00:16:56.900 accept the marriage? You have to try to work that sort of thing out and who gets the ring and do we 0.81

00:17:00.960 both get the ring? This is the one area I've pointed out on this show and other conservatives

00:17:05.820 have pointed this out too, that the transgender ideology undermines the homosexual rights ideology.

00:17:14.620 And it undermines them because what gay rights is very simple, right? We're born this way. 0.66

00:17:19.240 Some boys like, some boys like girls, some boys like boys. And there's really nothing we can do to

00:17:23.720 change that desire. So society should be more accepting of that. Okay. Totally understand that.

00:17:28.320 And then the transgender ideology comes in and says, actually, there's no such thing as boys or

00:17:32.020 girls and boys can become girls and girls can become boys and everything's mutable. Well, that so much

00:17:37.000 for the born this way, so much for the, you can't change that so much for the orientation that undercuts

00:17:40.880 it. But there is one area where the two link up and that is on the redefinition of marriage. Because

00:17:46.100 if, if the argument for the redefinition of marriage, which you saw from the Supreme Court is

00:17:51.200 that M plus W equals M plus M, then M has to equal W. They have to be indiscernible. They have to be 0.92

00:17:59.260 exactly the same. And if that is the case, then you're going to see a lot more, uh, social rituals,

00:18:05.120 such as the, the Tiffany men's engagement ring. You're going to see a social push to take away that

00:18:11.940 which is particular and peculiar to men and that which is particular to women. It's all going to have 1.00

00:18:17.620 to be the same, but anyone who's ever been in a marriage knows that it's not the same.

00:18:24.420 I've got my cute little newborn kid at home. Could I nurture that kid? No, to a degree I can,

00:18:30.120 I can play with them. I can kiss them. I can say, Hey buddy, you know, and I can have a nice time and

00:18:34.140 I can even give them a bottle every now and again, but I cannot provide for that baby. What sweet little 0.88

00:18:40.500 Alisa can provide for that baby because sweet little Alisa is a lady and I am a grunting knuckle dragging 1.00

00:18:47.600 brute and the relationship of a baby of, of any person to his mother is different than the

00:18:53.980 relationship to his father. And that's the way it is. And no amount of social engineering

00:18:57.880 is ever going to change that. And by the way, for the, for the gay guys in the audience and ladies

00:19:04.840 too, I got, you know, I don't want to exclude the ladies here. I have had many of my gay friends tell

00:19:11.320 me that when they are in a relationship, the gender roles sort of come out there too. Some guy is a

00:19:17.240 little more like the traditional guy. Some guy is a little more like the traditional girl in the way 1.00

00:19:21.420 they interact, in the way they cook, in the way they whatever, because those things come from nature

00:19:27.780 and then civilization has developed them. So of course there is a social aspect to our sex,

00:19:35.540 just as there is a biological aspect, but those two things are connected. And in this culture,

00:19:41.240 if we're going to just deny that entirely, then things are going to go a little bit kooky

00:19:45.920 throughout all aspects of the society. And, and we can make ourselves feel better and say,

00:19:52.380 this is all just, it's all just private. Michael, what do you care? What do you care? Getting back to

00:19:56.980 the inciting incident here. What do you care if Bill and Melinda Gates get divorced? I care quite a lot.

00:20:02.820 I care a lot if anybody gets divorced because that's people breaking their contract and their pledge, 0.94

00:20:08.280 not just to one another and not even just to God. I suppose that's between the parties involved there,

00:20:14.180 but they're breaking a pledge to me. They're breaking a pledge to society. They're breaking

00:20:18.960 a pledge to their children. They're breaking a pledge to the whole culture that they will do their

00:20:26.420 part. And I know it's a fallen world and these things happen. But the question is here, are we going

00:20:32.480 to encourage that sort of thing or are we going to discourage that sort of thing?

00:20:36.220 And the argument made not just by the left, but made by the right now as well, because the right

00:20:41.500 has adopted the ridiculous libertine redefinition of the whole culture that the left has foisted upon

00:20:47.340 us. This is, by the way, the topic of my upcoming book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling

00:20:50.680 Minds, available now, by the way, for pre-order. Because we've adopted that language, we don't have any

00:20:56.600 philosophical tools at our disposal to argue for the conservation of culture. We can't do it.

00:21:04.620 That's why we don't conserve anything. That's one of the reasons why we don't conserve anything.

00:21:09.280 Private decisions have public consequences and vice versa. This is what you're hearing all the

00:21:15.680 time about the vaccine. This is the central disagreement at the heart of the vaccine issue,

00:21:20.380 the vaccine passports, the whole public health tyranny. To what degree does the public have the

00:21:27.420 right to say something about your private decisions? To what extent are your private decisions

00:21:32.160 public? Joe Biden has an important insight about this. He says, if you don't get the vaccine,

00:21:39.840 we're going to die. You're putting people at risk of dying.

00:21:42.880 I also want to thank the 105 million Americans of every background who are fully protected

00:21:48.740 from one of the deadliest pandemics in our history. You know, there's a lot of misinformation out there,

00:21:55.120 but there's one fact I want every American to know. People who are not fully vaccinated can still

00:22:01.720 die every day from COVID-19. Look at the folks in your community have gotten vaccinated and are

00:22:09.360 getting back to living their lives, their full lives. Look at the grandparents united with their

00:22:14.880 grandchildren, friends getting together again. This is your choice. It's life and death.

00:22:20.840 This is your choice. Life and death. There are people, he's, he actually made a true statement

00:22:28.260 here. It's a rare fact for Joe Biden. There are people who don't have the vaccine, who are dying

00:22:35.020 every day. And therefore, because of the fear of death, he's going to scare you into doing whatever

00:22:41.100 he says. I'm not taking the arch libertarian position here that the government never has anything

00:22:49.140 to say about vaccines. I'm not taking that. I'm, I'm also not taking the leftist position that you

00:22:54.740 all need to get this, this vaccine immediately. I'm taking the prudential position that you should

00:23:00.500 assess risk to yourself and society and make a reasonable decision. I guess that's, I guess that's

00:23:06.220 the Joe Rogan position. And I know you're not allowed to take that anymore, but that to me seems to

00:23:12.900 make a lot of sense. Prudence is a conservative virtue, even though we seem to have forgotten about it.

00:23:17.160 But I'm going to go further. I think what lies at the heart of Joe Biden's threat here

00:23:20.200 is not the fact that unvaccinated people are dying every day. It's the fact that

00:23:24.820 people are always going to die every day because people are going to die because you can't avoid

00:23:30.080 death because there are certain hard facts about this world that you are not going to escape. No

00:23:37.160 matter, no matter whether you give your consent or not, you're probably not going to consent to die,

00:23:42.400 but you're going to die anyway. Someday. We all are. This is a finite world. Okay. And the, the

00:23:49.200 liberal modern society wants to deny that fact of death. And it gets people so terrified of it

00:23:55.060 that they will give away all their rights and shut down the whole country for a year and a half

00:23:59.060 because of a virus, because of a virus that, you know, it's not great, but it's not worse than many

00:24:05.740 other pandemics that we've gone through. But they're willing to give it all away because of

00:24:09.320 their terror of death and because of their shock and because of their delusion that they are totally

00:24:15.240 100% in control of their own lives. They own their own lives. They can do whatever they want.

00:24:19.620 They can, as long as that's consensual, they can do whatever they want. Darn it. No, 1.00

00:24:23.860 you didn't choose to come into this world. You're probably not going to choose to come out of this

00:24:26.760 world. A lot of things are going to happen to you in the meantime that are unjust. I think this has

00:24:30.560 to do with a lot of the crazy leftist entitlement culture and the burning down of the country over the

00:24:35.660 grievance politics is people don't recognize it. There is injustice in this world and you're going

00:24:39.880 to have to deal with that. That's a fact of life. And demagogues such as Dr. Fauci and such as Joe

00:24:46.620 Biden are exploiting that neurosis, that delusion, that refusal to, to recognize basic facts of reality

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00:27:43.020 Joe Biden's case for getting the vaccine is that if you don't get the vaccine, you're likely to die.

00:28:03.180 Basically, people are dying every day. You got to get it. Forget about your own risk assessment.

00:28:08.080 Forget about prudence and your own faculties of reason. You got to get it. Okay. Okay.

00:28:12.580 That's about as strong a pitch as you can possibly make. So, Mr. President, how do we get the vaccine?

00:28:21.200 I'm going to repeat. We're going to make it easier than ever to get vaccinated.

00:28:24.760 Visit vaccines.com or text to your zip code to 438829. 438829.

00:28:39.860 I, uh, I'm just going to clear out my ear a little bit. Uh, can we, one more time, where, how do you get the, where do you get the vaccine?

00:28:50.800 I'm going to repeat. We're going to make it easier than ever to get vaccinated.

00:28:54.480 Visit vaccines.com.gov, vaccines.com or text to your, text your zip code to 438829. 438829.

00:29:09.600 I want to be very careful here because this is a family program. Uh, so all I will say is that

00:29:17.800 I am, I am less likely to get the vaccine after that pitch. That was not a very,

00:29:24.180 not a very persuasive pitch from, uh, Joe Biden. Dr. Fauci, who is the leader of the,

00:29:30.220 the coronavirus initiative here, right? He's the, he's the one leading the public health response.

00:29:36.040 Finally, Dr. Fauci, it's been not just two weeks, not just two months. It's been a long,

00:29:44.380 been a long time, pal. Can we, we can finally get back to normal, right? We let you,

00:29:49.740 we let you drag this thing on about 28 or 29 times longer than you said it would take.

00:29:58.720 Finally, we can go back to normal, right? We're at the end of the pandemic.

00:30:01.480 We would hope by the time we get to the end of calendar year 2021 and the beginning of the first

00:30:08.760 quarter of 2022, we'll be able to vaccinate children of any age. Before I let you go,

00:30:13.900 Dr. Fauci, you and I are a major league of baseball fans. Uh, what inning are we in as far as this COVID

00:30:20.160 pandemic is concerned? Well, you know, I, I, we're at least halfway through. I, I hope we're seeing,

00:30:26.680 and, and I do believe, uh, uh, Wolf, I'm not trying to be overly, uh, enthusiastic about what's

00:30:32.920 going on vis-a-vis the vaccine program, which is so successful, but we've really got to not declare

00:30:38.780 victory prematurely. So we're in the late innings, but it's not over. That's the thing we really got

00:30:44.780 to get people to appreciate. We're going in the right direction. We're seeing the light at the end

00:30:49.280 of the tunnel, but now's not a time to declare victory. It's a time to get more and more people

00:30:54.780 vaccinated. Just the way the president said today, we want to get to that goal. It's a doable goal.

00:31:00.680 And I believe we'll get there. So you think the seventh, the eighth inning or late innings,

00:31:04.180 what, what any of you're talking about? How about the bottom of the sixth? Try that one.

00:31:10.420 I'll go with the bottom of the sixth. That's not too bad. Now, I don't think that Dr. Fauci has a ton

00:31:16.600 of credibility on the virus because he has admitted that he has misled us. Remember in that first

00:31:24.080 few weeks where he said, do not wear the masks, you stupid idiots. Again, I'm paraphrasing. Don't 1.00

00:31:31.760 wear them. The masks do nothing, idiots. And then a few weeks later, he says, you have to wear the 1.00

00:31:37.240 masks. And we all said, well, huh? What changed? And he said, oh, I wanted to make sure there was

00:31:43.180 enough masks for all my friends in public health, but now there is. So it's cool. Wear the mask. You

00:31:48.580 have to. And you think, well, Dr. Fauci, if you would be so deeply misleading and dishonest to us

00:31:55.040 about that basic protective element early on, why should we trust you now? But so I don't think he

00:32:01.780 has a ton of credibility on this, this virus, but I know he has no credibility on baseball because if

00:32:08.740 you recall, he was chosen to throw the first pitch out at the Nats game some months ago and he

00:32:15.840 dribbled the pitch. He just went like, what was it? Right down the first baseline. It was not,

00:32:20.820 not great. And also, by the way, at that game, he wore the mask on the pitcher's mound when he was

00:32:25.720 far away from everybody. And then when he got back up in the stands and he thought the TV cameras

00:32:29.860 weren't on him, he was sitting next to friends of his, friends whom he doesn't live with, right?

00:32:33.660 Friends who were not part of his household. And he took the mask down and he wasn't even eating.

00:32:36.840 He was just hanging out. So not a ton of credibility, but he's going to hold his power.

00:32:42.160 That's what this is about. Not two, not two weeks in, not two months in. We're now

00:32:48.180 over, well over a year in. Dr. Fauci says we're going to be two years in and he's still not going

00:32:54.520 to give up his power. Bottom of the sixth. How much more do you need to see?

00:33:01.460 What else does he need to tell us before it is clear they're not going to give up this power?

00:33:06.420 This was a power grab on behalf of the liberal state, which expresses itself through the bureaucracy

00:33:12.420 and notably through the public health bureaucracy because public health justifies anything that

00:33:17.260 the left wants to do. They're grabbing that power and they're going to force us into

00:33:24.500 vaccine passports, which is effectively coercing the vaccine. They're going to force us into boosters.

00:33:31.360 They're going to force us into more lockdown measures. They're going to maintain their stranglehold

00:33:35.440 stranglehold on business, on church, on civil society, on voting, totally upended the voting

00:33:41.360 system because of COVID. Remember now we have widespread mail-ins, even in states where that

00:33:45.440 is unconstitutional like Pennsylvania. Now you've got drop boxes. Now election day becomes election

00:33:50.580 year. I don't know, election week, election month. They just keep expanding it.

00:33:55.600 That's what we're headed toward. And their argument, by the way, is, has, has a slight bit of truth to

00:34:04.020 it, which is private decisions have public effect. And that's true. We, it is not enough for us to say

00:34:12.680 my body, my choice, right? That is the argument that the left or that the right rather has made

00:34:17.280 on matters of public health, on even vaccines, my body, my choice. They're just making the abortion 0.99

00:34:23.760 argument, but with, with a little more persuasiveness, because it really does have

00:34:27.500 to do with your body. You're not killing another human in there, but the decision of whether or not

00:34:32.280 to get vaccinated in theory does affect everybody else. But then you have to get to the, I think,

00:34:38.940 more persuasive conservative argument, which is the prudential argument. I want to talk about this

00:34:43.960 vaccine. I want to talk about this virus. I want to talk about this country right now where lots and

00:34:49.480 lots of people have been vaccinated, where lots and lots of people have antibodies, where the death

00:34:54.640 rate is much lower than we feared in the beginning of this thing. I want to talk about those particulars

00:35:00.720 because in those particulars, if you are a young, healthy person who's weighing risk, who's making a

00:35:06.720 prudential judgment, you're going to have a very different conclusion than if you're living, I don't

00:35:11.900 know, during the Black Plague, where some huge percentage of Europe is getting wiped out because

00:35:17.420 of that pandemic. We're probably not even going to be allowed to get that kind of information

00:35:22.380 because the blob, the liberal establishment, is teaming up with the private sector. Talk about 0.93

00:35:29.620 breaking down distinctions between public and private. You've now got the government, the public

00:35:34.240 sector, teaming up with big tech, the private sector, to censor the right, to censor conservatives.

00:35:41.900 And to dominate the political order. Officials from the California Secretary of State Alex Padilla's

00:35:48.240 office have now been exposed for complaining to social media companies about posts that they

00:35:56.840 didn't like, that contained misinformation regarding the administration of California's

00:36:01.660 elections, or that just made political points that they did not prefer. And now we have these

00:36:08.600 records, thanks to Judicial Watch, which does fabulous work. They, through the California Public

00:36:12.760 Records Act, got these records. The Secretary of State's office apparently combed through social

00:36:16.920 media posts, flagging content from users with even very small followings, and even videos that had only

00:36:22.680 a couple thousand views. In some cases, according to reports, for no other reason than because the

00:36:30.060 officials disagreed with the opinions expressed. Build your own Facebook, Michael. Come on, you know

00:36:37.860 that the squish conservatives, who are either extremely ignorant or useful idiots, you know, 1.00

00:36:45.080 court jester conservatives whose sole purpose is to prop up the dominant liberal regime, they will say, 1.00

00:36:50.000 no, Michael, Facebook's a private company. Twitter is a private company. YouTube, Google,

00:36:54.620 Google is a private company. They control the flow of information around the public square,

00:36:58.380 but they're a private company. And so you can't ever, and if they, look, if they want to consent

00:37:03.760 to working on behalf of the liberal establishment through the Secretary of State of California's

00:37:09.060 office, that's totally, that's their consent, that's their decision to make.

00:37:13.100 These private matters are really starting to sound like political matters to me.

00:37:18.760 Public matters, public and political mean the same thing. Maybe it's time for conservatives to

00:37:24.160 exercise our, our personal choice in the political sphere to bring these people into line through the

00:37:34.380 political process because what we're seeing right now is a totally rigged game and conservatives have 0.99

00:37:40.480 given away that game by buying the left's stupid propaganda about personal choices. It's a private 1.00

00:37:47.400 matter. It's a personal choice. Give me a break. Speaking of social media platforms, President Trump has one

00:37:52.160 coming up. He does. It's not, people are kind of disappointed with Trump's social media platform

00:37:57.480 because we were hoping he was going to make his own Google. He was going to make his own Facebook.

00:38:01.940 He's a billionaire, president of the United States. He can command at least 70 million people

00:38:07.860 to take what he's doing seriously. And instead what we got was effectively a blog. So he unveiled the

00:38:19.180 new social media platform. It's just DonaldJTrump.com slash desk and it's just his own posts. So some

00:38:24.300 people are really disappointed about this. I'm not. I actually think it's hilarious. I think it is

00:38:28.820 peak Trump to say we're going to have this great new platform. Now that I've been deplatformed

00:38:33.320 from Twitter and Facebook and social media, we're going to have a new platform. And then what's the

00:38:38.300 platform? It's just his blog with giant buttons that say share to Twitter and Facebook and all over.

00:38:43.700 It's just a way to troll the big tech companies and get back in there. It was not executed very well.

00:38:52.400 So the only problem I have with, I don't have a problem that it's a modest sort of blog. I don't

00:38:56.180 have a problem that it's only one way that it's just Trump communicating to us. My only problem is

00:39:01.780 it's not optimized for maximum trollishness. Because if you try to share, if you go to the website right

00:39:09.200 now and you try to share, you click the share button to Twitter, it doesn't work. It actually won't

00:39:12.820 share. So then you got to click the link and then share it directly on Twitter, which is

00:39:16.060 taking too many steps out. But then when you share the link, it's just the picture of Trump shows up

00:39:22.400 and then the kind of boilerplate copy in the bottom of what President Trump has done. And then only in

00:39:27.720 the headline of the post do you see the first few words of whatever pseudo tweet he has made, which is

00:39:34.200 always very, very funny. So I just think if you're going to do, I like the idea, but you got to make it

00:39:38.840 very, very easy to share and functional and you've got to make the whole post just a way to infiltrate

00:39:45.760 social media. So instead of the picture of Trump, it should just be a picture of the text of the post.

00:39:50.880 And instead of the boilerplate copy at the bottom, it should just be the text. It should just be all

00:39:54.480 of the tweet so that Donald Trump can effectively tweet again and post on Facebook again. And then you

00:40:02.320 force the big tech company's hand to ban any posts from this one website, which I think makes Trump

00:40:08.560 look really great. And I think it shows you the, the real end game here of this censorship, which is

00:40:15.900 any conservative who's actually going to make a point, they're going to have to, to shut them down.

00:40:20.520 I think it would be good politically for Trump if he is serious about running in 2024. And by the way,

00:40:25.260 during his conversation with Candace, sure sounded like he's serious. If he wants to do that,

00:40:29.900 then he's, he's going to have to, he's going to have to ratchet up that trollishness.

00:40:35.980 Why wouldn't Trump run in 2024? Look who he's running against. Joe Biden, I guess would run

00:40:43.340 again. He hasn't said that he's going to step down. He actually probably needs to run again because if,

00:40:48.960 if the, the end game here is to get Kamala in, I don't think Kamala can win on her own. She's very, 1.00

00:40:54.240 very unlikable, even among Democrats. She was one of, if not the first Democrat out of the primary

00:40:59.520 race in 2020. And I said, you'll remember, I said from the very beginning, watch Kamala. She's a 0.95

00:41:05.460 clever politician. And when she got booted out of the race, everyone said, oh, Michael, you're an

00:41:09.040 idiot. I can't believe you thought Kamala was going places. And she did. She did. That call was 1.00

00:41:13.140 totally right, but she still is very unpopular. So probably what needs to happen is Biden needs to

00:41:17.840 get reelected and then hand it over to Kamala. If Trump runs against Joe Biden, this is the kind of

00:41:25.640 guy that he's up against. The last thing Americans with around, with the amount of wealth needs is

00:41:31.240 another tax break. We need to make a choice to eliminate the loophole. Only the gains above for

00:41:37.540 people, only the gains above people making $2 million a year, or excuse me, a couple. A rate of

00:41:44.300 capital gains rate for people making more than a million dollars a year, which by the way, would

00:41:49.240 affect three-tenths of one percent of all taxpayers. Three-tenths of one percent of the top

00:41:54.320 one percent. And close another loophole, like the real estate investment loophole. The wealthy is

00:41:59.300 simply paying the same rate on their wages and investment income that raises $40 billion a year

00:42:05.640 for the next 10 years. The reason I'm bothering to do this is I keep hearing on the press, Biden's

00:42:11.240 going to raise your taxes. Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single

00:42:18.160 penny in taxes. And we will not increase the deficit either. Unlike the last gigantic tax

00:42:24.700 cut, which increased the deficit by $2 trillion. Wait, hold on. No, nobody making under $400,000

00:42:34.020 a year will pay a single penny in taxes. I might need to rethink my political affiliation. That's

00:42:40.480 pretty good. You don't, you don't have to pay anything because right now I'm paying almost half

00:42:44.740 of my money away in taxes. But I don't have to, oh, that's, oh no, that's not what he meant. He,

00:42:49.940 he meant that they won't pay any, what, any more or any, what is that? It's hard to translate from

00:42:55.940 Biden into English because not only does it come out garbled because he's just exhausted, obviously,

00:43:01.600 and passed his prime, but he also just doesn't know what he is talking about. More and more confusion.

00:43:09.780 Re-election. But if Joe Biden runs for re-election, if Donald Trump runs for re-election,

00:43:19.880 oh man, they're going to have some competition. No, I'm not talking about Kamala, DeSantis,

00:43:27.880 Cruz, Holey, whoever, anybody who's going to run. I'm talking about the real competition.

00:43:32.840 Can you smell what the rock is cooking? There is a part of young rock as if you're running for

00:43:40.040 president in 2032. A lot of people are reading a lot of things into that. Well, let me take another

00:43:45.820 drink of Terramana before I answer that one. It always helps with the answer. I have a goal and an

00:43:53.500 interest and ambition to unite our country. If this is what the people want, then I will do that.

00:44:00.780 And this goes back to me wrestling in flea markets and used car dealerships. And even in that,

00:44:08.380 as small and as intimate and as rowdy as those crowds were, Willie, I still had my finger on the

00:44:14.040 pulse of the people. And I always got an idea of what they wanted in that moment. So I say that to

00:44:19.840 say like, if the time comes where there is a good amount of people who want to see that happen,

00:44:24.480 then I'm going to consider it. How will you know if the people are asking you to take that step?

00:44:28.460 I think you would do deep dives of polling and things like that. What the people want will lead

00:44:32.980 and inform that decision. And if it is in fact what they want, then I'm going to take another

00:44:37.780 drink of my Terramana and I'm going to say, okay, let's do it.

00:44:43.780 Terramana, Terramana, Terramana. You got to give the guy credit for being an A-list salesman. He's

00:44:49.180 pushing this tequila that he's using, which raises questions about, this tequila that he owns rather,

00:44:56.180 it raises questions about whether or not he's serious about running. Is he just using the

00:45:01.260 buzz of the president thing to sell tequila? He's got a big Terramana sign behind him. He opens up

00:45:06.800 the answer talking about Terramana. He closes the answer talking about Terramana. So maybe this is

00:45:11.500 what people said about Trump for years. They said, oh, he's just trying to sell his brand. He's trying

00:45:15.780 to sell his neckties. He's trying to sell his memberships at his golf clubs. He's trying to sell

00:45:21.040 as the apprentice, whatever. He's just pretending to run for president so that he can do this.

00:45:27.240 I'm sure that the rock realizes, first of all, I'm sure he's paid attention to what Trump did

00:45:30.840 and realizes that it is a good strategy and it can help you as a matter of business. But also the rock

00:45:37.420 has floated this for years. He has been floating the idea of running for president for a very, very

00:45:42.440 long time. And he has dipped his toes into politics for a while. He was a sort of a moderate. He was

00:45:47.080 considered a moderate Republican. He endorsed Biden and Harris in 2020. So I don't really like

00:45:53.220 the rock. I don't think I would vote for the rock. His politics, I don't think are my politics.

00:45:58.980 But I also don't like his answer. I think this answer is everything wrong with politics.

00:46:08.680 Would you run for president? Well, I'd just have to poll. I'd have to take a lot of polls.

00:46:13.700 Would you run if the people want me to run? Okay. We hear that kind of silly jargon. There's

00:46:20.540 silly propaganda, you know, from, from candidates a lot. I would only run if I were called on to do

00:46:27.100 it and I would reluctantly accept fun. But, but the rock actually takes it further. He says, I would

00:46:31.080 just poll and I would poll and I would poll. And then if more people wanted me to run than didn't

00:46:36.520 want me to run, then I would run. That's not leadership. That's not what people want.

00:46:44.780 That is actually bad politics. People don't vote for you because you just say you'll do whatever

00:46:52.220 they want. People vote for you because you stand for something. I remember this. I remember this in

00:46:58.120 middle school student government elections. You'd see some people get up there and seriously,

00:47:03.720 11, 12 years old. They get up there and say, I'll do whatever you want me to do. Just please elect

00:47:08.060 me. And, and the, the thinking of very shallow political thinkers is, well, if I just promise to

00:47:15.760 give the people whatever they want, then they're more likely to vote for me. But actually I think

00:47:20.760 they're less likely to vote for you then because it just shows that you don't stand for anything.

00:47:26.100 You don't believe in anything. The rock's whole pitch, his whole political pitch is I'm a centrist.

00:47:30.640 I'm a, I'm a, I'll just do whatever, whatever 50% plus one want to be done. That's what I'll do.

00:47:36.640 Oh, so you don't stand for it. You're a big, tough guy. You're extremely charismatic. You're very good

00:47:40.820 looking. You're very famous. You're very rich, but you don't stand for anything. Why on earth would I

00:47:46.860 vote for you? I'd be more likely to vote perhaps for an honest Democrat because at least I know what

00:47:54.660 I'm getting. I have no idea what I'm getting with the rock. The rock might end up being much

00:47:58.540 further left because he's just going to go wherever the wind blows. Really, really bad pitch. Speaking

00:48:03.700 of leadership, got to get to this. You know that there's this problem in the Republican leadership

00:48:09.100 in the house. Namely, Liz Cheney is a member of leadership, but she hates Republicans. She clearly 1.00

00:48:16.160 has disdain for her constituents. She voted for the second farcical impeachment of Donald Trump.

00:48:23.680 Trump. She says that, she parrots Democrat talking points all the time about the big lie,

00:48:29.620 which she says that if you in any way question the 2020 election, you're engaging in the big lie.

00:48:34.780 This was a phrase popularized by Democrats. It refers to something coined by Adolf Hitler in

00:48:40.340 Mein Kampf. And ironically, when Hitler uses the term the big lie in Mein Kampf, he's actually accusing

00:48:47.580 the Jews of propagating a big lie to blame a certain German general for the loss in World War I. So 0.85

00:48:54.460 ironically, though, the left is not aware of this. When they use this phrase, they're actually casting

00:49:01.680 themselves as the Nazis in their own analogy, neither here nor there. Liz Cheney totally going 0.95

00:49:06.780 along with this kind of rhetoric. And Kevin McCarthy has previously defended her. He's the actual,

00:49:12.520 the number one Republican leader in the house. Well, apparently Kevin McCarthy is losing his

00:49:20.220 patience with Liz Cheney. Do we have the clip? I think she's got real problems. I've had it with 1.00

00:49:28.240 her. I've had it with her. It's, you know, I've lost confidence. Well, someone just has to bring

00:49:34.540 emotion, but I assume that will probably take place. So this was reportedly in the crosstalk,

00:49:41.240 Kevin McCarthy was on with Steve Doocy from Fox News. And what happens when you're on these shows,

00:49:48.140 and I've been on Fox News many, many times, before the interview goes live on TV, you're just talking

00:49:53.280 to people. You're talking to the audio engineers. Sometimes you're talking to the hosts. And that's

00:49:56.300 supposed to be a private conversation. Well, since we're only hearing Kevin's side of it here,

00:50:01.740 maybe someone in the room happened to be recording it. Maybe McCarthy himself was recording it.

00:50:06.760 Who knows? But this private conversation is leaked out to the public. And that private view is probably

00:50:13.820 going to have public effects. And Liz Cheney, thankfully, will hopefully be out of Republican 1.00

00:50:18.300 leadership by the end of the month. But a good reminder, a nice little bow on the end to remind

00:50:23.880 us that our private actions, our private thoughts, our private deeds have public effect and vice versa.

00:50:32.660 We need to start thinking much more deeply about that. We need to ditch this shallow language of

00:50:37.820 you do you, shallow language of total privacy to do whatever you want, no matter how vicious,

00:50:43.320 no matter the public effect, if we want to actually conserve anything at all.

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00:51:43.840 A juror in the Derek Chauvin trial apparently lied his way onto the jury in order to, as he says,

00:51:47.840 bring about social change. Also, Jill Biden pushes for universal free community college. 1.00

00:51:52.840 A child was paddled with a wooden board by her teacher while her mother watched. And finally,

00:51:57.240 I'll explain why anxiety isn't a real mental disorder. That'll be a popular segment. All of that

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The Michael Knowles Show - May 05, 2021

Ep. 757 - Divorce, American Style

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