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00:01:40.240you can go see kalshi.com slash regulatory. If good is in fact the absence of evil,
00:01:47.100you know, like doctors fighting illness, cops fighting crime,
00:01:49.740then doing evil might actually have some sort of point.
00:01:52.340So you're saying the sort of Kantian view is the opposite, is basically the opposite of the Neoplaton.
00:01:59.820So it's like that, because like Plotinus would say, wait, hold on, we're coming in hot to the show with that cutting edge talk about Plotinus?
00:02:09.920This is why people tune into the Daily Wire, to get the news.
00:02:26.040And if you guys are like, hey, what does he keep looking at?
00:02:29.000The Atlanta Braves are playing the Philadelphia Eagles in – Philadelphia Eagles.
00:02:33.420Philadelphia Phillies in game two, which Major League Baseball is inexplicably slotted at 2 p.m. Eastern for potentially three straight days.
00:02:52.540And I'm taking a wild guess that you're rooting for Atlanta here.
00:02:55.800That's a very solid, very solid analysis by you to start off the program.
00:03:01.780Clay, before we get into the show, since you're a sports expert, could I just get your expert analysis on the Yankees absolutely obliterating the Boston Red Sox last night, nine to nothing, with Ben Rice just doing somersaults around the bases?
00:03:15.520look i uh am the uh probably the number one um atlanta braves fan only in the last decade right
00:03:27.760because my kids have gotten me all into it um but yankees red sox one of the all-time great uh
00:03:33.680rivalries in all of sports and i was watching that last night my kids were staying up late
00:03:39.300to watch the Cubs play against the Padres as well.
00:03:43.280And there's just an embarrassment of riches.
00:03:46.100October is, I know we're in the last day of September,
00:08:01.300You know who hasn't covered this at all?
00:08:03.440msnbc and i do you mentioned the new york times i think they actually deserve more criticism on
00:08:10.480television because i i got the quad box set up one of the things i like to watch the most is
00:08:16.200how are fox news how are cnn how are msnbc handling the stories of the day what are they
00:08:22.500focusing on what are they giving credence and attention to msnbc ms now i guess it's the
00:08:28.800technical name, they basically didn't cover this all day. So if you're out there and you are just
00:08:36.040trying to watch MSNOW to somehow be informed, you wouldn't have known anything about this would-be
00:08:41.380terror attack. You wouldn't have known anything about what might be occurring. And I do think
00:08:45.960this is significant because there is a huge base of the Democrat Party now of left-wingers that0.85
00:08:52.760refuse to believe that muslims could be the bad guy and so when there is a bad guy muslim actor
00:09:00.080they just pretend the story didn't happen i don't think look the new york times the way they covered0.79
00:09:05.160this this is intentional the way ms now covered it um if uh somebody in a maga hat had tried to
00:09:11.400take down a plane uh saying they were doing so on instruction of trump it would have been a lead
00:09:16.520story for them. The wrong guy is the bad guy. And so they just pretend it didn't happen. You and
00:09:23.020everybody else watching, we all know it happened. But if you're a left winger, you might not even
00:09:27.100know that this situation ever occurred because they just pretended didn't. And it happened at
00:09:32.020the same time, a bunch of, I think it was five guys in balaclavas in a truck were arrested in
00:09:37.460Britain for approaching an RAF base where we have our forces and then released. I wasn't quite sure
00:09:44.040where the release came in. You know, it's like these guys, they said they didn't have any
00:09:48.540explosive devices, but what the hell were they doing there? It didn't sound like a very, you
00:09:52.880know, Trump said they were planning big damage. So this does seem like, you know, Iran fighting0.65
00:09:58.500back by any other means necessary. They're bottled up. It really does seem, you know, I don't want
00:10:03.960to be too hopeful about this because I know wars in the Middle East don't end. They just drag on.0.98
00:10:07.500It's like a government program. They never die. But still, it does seem to me that Iran is getting
00:10:12.440kind of desperate and looking for ways to hit us in any other way they can because they can't do0.98
00:10:17.340anything. They can't even close the Strait of Hormuz anymore. Yes, that's my big question on
00:10:21.620this. Does it have political import or is it just a dog barking? Because Muslims commit terror
00:10:28.700attacks. That's been going on for like 1,400 years now. So it could be one-offs. The combination1.00
00:10:33.200with the Royal Air Force Base, quasi-attack, near-attack, I don't know. To me, it does raise
00:10:39.780the possibility, especially as we approach the midterms, that maybe Iran is taking a heavier
00:10:43.980hand in this. We've seen no reporting on that thus far. And in fact, what Iran hopes to get
00:10:50.400out of the midterm elections seems like it's materializing. The polls for the Republicans0.62
00:10:53.560are getting worse. The polls for the Democrats, the prediction market for the Democrats,
00:10:58.800it's looking better and better. So I don't know that Iran would benefit from a new terror attack
00:11:04.780in the next three or four weeks. But in any case, do you see this shaping public opinion at all?
00:11:11.740To your point, Clay, you know, if you're watching MS now, you don't even know this happened probably.0.82
00:11:16.480True, but the Democrat voters certainly know that Muslims perpetrated 9-11 and they don't care.0.68
00:11:23.820Their opinion of Islam increased after that. So I just wonder if they're impenetrable1.00
00:11:28.060to having their opinion swayed on an issue like terror and national security.
00:11:34.780that's a fair question in american politics right abdul el sayed it's hard to argue that0.55
00:11:42.700israel's the bad guy if you're having muslims take down a plane of 200 uh i would also point
00:11:49.600out in israel we've got the election i think is on october 27th they're even sooner than we are0.63
00:11:55.920and what exactly their government structure will look like is a big part of it i'll also tell you
00:12:01.020where we're going to go if we haven't already gone and I haven't been on social media very much
00:12:05.460but there's going to be a huge element that says this is all made up this is Israel trying to stage0.55
00:12:12.260a fake terror attack for the benefit of their own political situation and if that hasn't already
00:12:19.340taken flight I'm sure it will be in short order you guys may have already been monitoring that
00:12:25.260but I'm telling you it's coming. Yeah, it is. Lots of posts surrounding that already today.
00:12:31.260It's been alarming how many people have said this is all false reporting. None of this ever happened.
00:12:36.300Don't even remotely fall for it on social media. But I think we might be thinking about this from
00:12:40.640an educated perspective within the context of the midterms, when in reality, people familiar with
00:12:45.360anti-Islamic terrorism warnings have been really screaming from the rooftops for many, many, many
00:12:51.200years that America and the Western world at large has been kind of looming over the cliff for
00:12:56.360another 9-11 style attack, perhaps far more sophisticated and far more widespread happening
00:13:02.120in multiple metropolitan areas at exactly the same time for a very long time. This has been going on.
00:13:08.100Sarah Adams, who used to be a CIA counterterrorism analyst for many years, just recently joined us
00:13:13.560on our show and said this has been looming for a very long time. And basically, we're just waiting
00:13:18.340for it to happen. And our government is not taking a whole lot of steps to prevent something
00:13:22.980like this from happening on the election side. Go ahead. I want to hit back at that just for a
00:13:28.660second, because I had Sebastian Gorkon, who's Trump's in-house terrorist guy, and he completely,
00:13:34.620he feels that is completely overdone. He feels that they have really gotten a handle on a lot
00:13:39.080of this, that they really are tracing some of the people in the country and outside the country.
00:13:43.780that killed, I think, over a thousand top terrorists, you know, since Trump has come
00:13:49.320into office. And he really felt he hit her pretty hard, Sarah, saying that he felt that this was
00:13:54.800kind of hysteria mongering, fear mongering. And he's a guy, I have to say, whatever else anybody
00:13:59.360wants to say about Sebastian Gorka has never lied to me. Not once. He has never told me a falsehood
00:14:03.460on the air or off. And so I kind of believe I believed what he was saying.
00:14:07.340Yeah, but he did torture James Bond in all those movies.
00:14:10.560It's okay. Okay. You're going to hold a grudge. Yeah, I know.
00:14:14.200And there's another number actually. It's just come out that immigration to the United States
00:14:19.460from Muslim majority countries is down like a hundred percent. I mean, it's down 96% in two
00:14:26.860years. So, you know, that would be another piece of evidence that maybe we're a little less
00:14:31.000vulnerable than we were. Isabel, I cut you off. Yeah, I was just going to say, I hope that's the
00:14:35.220case when it comes to counterterrorism measures. And I have full confidence in the Trump administration
00:14:38.840that they're doing that. The election side of this is a different piece of the conversation
00:14:42.660entirely. And what's fascinating is the Muslim Brotherhood is funding a sizable number of0.88
00:14:48.740candidates running in the midterm elections, not just Abdul El-Sayed, but many, many, many
00:14:53.700individuals who are running for Congress right now for the midterm elections here in the next 30
00:14:58.140days. Of course, you're not seeing checks written and signed by the Muslim Brotherhood. It's being0.97
00:15:02.740funneled through various NGO organizations, student organizations, general awareness campaigns.
00:15:08.840But millions upon millions of dollars are being funded by terrorists into American elections this time around to try to change things from the inside of the government out.
00:15:17.900So I think what we really should be thinking about long term here in the next few years is more than just flying a plane into a particular building, what we typically associate with a terror attack on American soil.
00:15:29.420We also really need to be concerned about potential terrorists or people with ties to terrorism organizations sitting inside of the U.S. Capitol building here in a matter of weeks.0.90
00:15:38.840Yeah, this is the whole flaw for me on the left's, you know, Islamophobia charges is that they tell us we're Islamophobic and then they bring out precisely those Muslim people who hate America, hate Jews and want us all to be destroyed.0.97
00:15:52.700And you think like, hey, you know, if you've got a patriotic Muslim candidate and he loves this country and wants it to be free and prosperous and all that, I'm down with that.0.88
00:15:59.900But they're actually bringing out the guys who, as you say, Isabel, are supported by people like Care and the Muslim Brotherhood.0.95
00:16:06.560And so I don't understand why we're being phobic at all.
00:16:09.940That just sounds like wise and wary to me.
00:16:13.180Do you think it drives the midterm elections?
00:16:16.020I mean, a story like a major terror attack that was thwarted today or potential terror
00:16:20.080attacks in the United States or the thwarted one in the UK, does it drive the election?
00:21:40.120Yeah, Michael, this is a story that's being updated literally by the hour.
00:21:43.620So new information has come out in the last few minutes, which is quite fascinating.
00:21:47.940But basically, to give everyone the full overview of what happened here, allegedly in October of 2024, this young woman took herself to a fraternity house at Cornell University and found herself engaging in quite an event of an evening with seven different fraternity brothers in virtual capacities.
00:22:06.720capacities that all changed within the last couple of minutes, every few minutes throughout
00:22:11.000the night. There were a lot of drugs and alcohol involved, obviously, various configurations of the
00:22:16.120guys. It was all very nebulous. And about three weeks later, she went to the police department
00:22:21.560on campus to file an incident report for whatever had happened that night. The day after or two days
00:22:27.880after all of this had happened, she texted one of the fraternity brothers and essentially said,
00:22:32.780I had fun seeing you last night. It's unfortunate how all of that went down, but I believe nothing
00:22:38.260sexual that happened last night was illegal. Would love to hook up with you again. Let's get
00:22:43.020together and smoke marijuana again sometime in the future. But by the time she showed up a couple0.97
00:22:47.000weeks later to the police department, she had a whole lot to say. Now, initially, everybody thought
00:22:52.340that this was happening with a report that essentially said everything was consensual.0.55
00:22:57.160She showed up to the police department and said, hey, this crazy thing happened. And the police
00:23:01.240said, okay, I don't know what you want me to do with that. Why are you here? So the DA's office
00:23:05.320never actually filed criminal charges against these seven men. However, in the last couple of
00:23:11.200hours, it has now come out that in the initial transcript of her conversation with the police,
00:23:16.280she might have actually used the words, I was raped, and potentially a full investigation
00:23:21.960didn't really ensue from the Cornell Police Department. So all of this has now culminated
00:23:27.140years later in a civil lawsuit where she's suing the bar that she went to that night. She's suing0.99
00:23:32.340the university. She's suing the fraternity and all of the fraternity brothers, insisting that0.60
00:23:36.600nothing that happened that evening was consensual, despite what her previous testimony or that text
00:23:41.340message may have said. And everyone's having a very emotional reaction to this, obviously,
00:23:45.860largely because of one screenshot Snapchat group text that was passed among these fraternity
00:23:52.000brothers that evening where they were advertising, I don't want to be too crass on the show because
00:23:56.220it'll get taken down. But essentially, hey, there's this girl upstairs. She's free and open0.66
00:24:00.140for business for anyone who wants to show up. It's incredibly chilling. And I think it elicits
00:24:05.640an emotional response in anyone, regardless of where you fall on the political spectrum or
00:24:09.540whatever preconceived opinion you might have on the issue. That was so diplomatic. That was so
00:24:15.620subtle. It was like a Bronte novel, you know, where Heathcliff goes to the attic and you don't
00:24:19.720realize he had sex. That really well done, Isabel. So, okay. But before I move on to the fellas,
00:24:26.220is it rape? What's the take? What's the hot take, 140 characters?1.00
00:24:32.800It's so hard to tell. Based on the initial police report that's in the lawsuit,
00:24:38.100I would probably argue no, and that largely only goes down to the New York state statute of what
00:24:44.220constitutes rape. It is very specific what it actually takes to charge someone with that
00:24:49.680particular crime. There's a whole host of other sex crimes that potentially these young men could
00:24:53.980be charged with. But based on their definition of what it means to be mentally incapacitated,
00:24:59.360if you voluntarily get drunk and you voluntarily take drugs, you're excluded from that. So it
00:25:05.000wouldn't be considered rape. She did have the lucid opportunity to say yes or no to various
00:25:10.320configurations of the men throughout the evening. And she very clearly articulates that.
00:25:14.480And they reportedly respected that. They said, okay, don't add the fourth guy or whatever.
00:25:18.380And they said, okay, no problem. So the whole thing is really ugly,
00:25:22.300but it's a really powerful reminder that sex does not belong between eight people in a fraternity0.98
00:25:27.060house fueled by ketamine sex parties. It instead belongs within a loving marriage between a husband
00:25:31.920and a wife. And I think we have to have a really important cultural conversation about morality
00:25:36.900being potentially different from legality in our culture today, especially when it comes to sex.
00:28:38.640The story out of San Diego State, the NFL player who was accused of sexual assault.
00:28:45.400They didn't press charges against him, but the complaint came out and they kicked him out of the league and he wasn't allowed to play football.
00:28:53.020And then it came out that actually the girl had consented and all the evidence came out that that actually in many ways proved that he was not culpable, that he wasn't responsible.
00:29:02.420But everybody had already decided based on the allegations that he was guilty.
00:29:07.940I just am very skeptical of any sort of initial complaint filing that's designed to elicit millions of dollars in payments.
00:29:16.300Remember, also, they usually give this to the defendants in advance and say, hey, if you pay us enough money, we won't file this.
00:29:23.420This won't go public. They know it's going to be a nasty look for everybody involved.
00:29:28.560And oftentimes that complaint is given in advance and they say, hey, the number is 4.5 million, Cornell.
00:29:34.940If you stroke a check for this, we'll never – and I'm just making up a number, right?
00:29:39.160But there's usually a settlement dollar figure that would have kept this from going public.
00:29:44.000All of those factors, I think, have to be taken into account as well.
00:29:46.900I think we have the Sonny Hosting clip to it.
00:29:50.560I actually have the statement that Jane Doe wrote at that time.
00:30:24.760but had made plans to meet one of the boys.
00:30:27.100young men she all she allowed other boys and consented to other boys snorting ketamine off
00:30:35.480of her body and under New York law voluntary intoxication or drug use that merely impairs
00:30:42.080judgment does not legally constitute an inability to consent to sexual activity right so that means
00:30:48.420if you voluntarily ingest drugs you voluntarily take alcohol you can agree to have threesomes
00:30:56.580which, in her statement, she agreed to have two separate threesomes.
00:31:00.980All right, I can't allow Sonny Austin to keep talking because I might keep agreeing with her.
00:31:05.080Drew, you've done a lot of ketamine in your life. What's your take?
00:31:07.600Yeah, I'm on ketamine now. Listen, Clay and Isabel did such a good job of laying out the legal side of this.
00:31:13.280I want to talk about the other side of it because what I see is an offshoot of the militant leftist attempts over the last 50 years
00:31:21.600to sort of take morality out of sexuality altogether.
00:31:25.240You can't discuss whether, you know, perversions, homosexuality, you know, a throuple is moral because as long as there is consent, then everything is fine.0.71
00:31:38.140There's no such thing as a moral underbelly to our sexual relations that has to be obeyed.0.98
00:31:44.940So if I were to say to you what is absolutely true, that a woman who goes into a fraternity and gets drunk is a damned fool, and the man who takes advantage of that is the lowest scumbag to crawl over the surface of the earth, I would be speaking a dead truth, but it has nothing to do with legality.0.98
00:32:06.080It has to do with our culture and it has to do what we expect with one another of one0.99
00:32:26.220And I can actually remember, I can actually remember that when I was dating, if a girl
00:32:32.260had three drinks, if she slurred her S's, you took her home.
00:32:35.420And you, and you did it because you knew you were not playing fair and you were out to get her, you know, you're out to sleep with her and seduce her, which we were doing at that time. But, but still you knew that there were rules to the game. Those rules have been stripped away by the left in their efforts to normalize every form of sexual behavior. And as always in these things, it's the women who get stuck. You know, it's the women who get the bad news.
00:32:59.460And I just think that, you know, I don't know what the law is. I believe everything you guys are saying. I just know that the law, the law, the big law, the big T, big L law is that you do not take advantage of a woman when she has done something that's stupid and you don't do something that's stupid.1.00
00:33:15.580And those are things that every mom should teach both her daughter and her son, because, you know, I'm sorry, the left is just wrong about this.0.98
00:33:22.900Sexuality is a deeply intertwining, deeply emotional and deeply moral act.
00:33:28.020And I am pretty relaxed about what people do in their own homes with consent in a loving relationship.
00:33:34.880You know, I'm not here to say that the government or the church should be peering through your keyhole.
00:33:40.420I'm just saying that if you don't accept what men are and what women are, you can't make social rules so that they treat each other in the way that human beings deserve to be treated.
00:33:51.720You know, there's this issue in a society that only exalts consent as the sole moral criterion.
00:34:00.500It means we can't make sense of anything else because we all know, obviously, that there's a lot more to life.
00:34:06.460So even down to the basic level, we've been told since the Me Too movement, since a little before that, actually, that sexual assault is one of the worst things that you can do.
00:34:16.820We were told this by leftists who had previously disregarded all of the moral laws that we had understood forever.
00:34:22.400And then they rediscovered them again sometime in the 20-teens and into the Me Too movement.
00:34:26.220They said sexual assault is really, really bad.
00:34:28.000But at the same time, they say sex is no big deal.
00:40:56.280We all have the same sex drives. And she had the multiple threesomes and she was letting them, you know, snort ketamine off of her naked body.1.00
00:41:04.320And like that's pretty, pretty aggressive behavior. And then I think what happened was everybody else in the sorority found out what she did.1.00
00:41:13.840And all of those guys in the fraternity all talked about what she did.
00:41:17.900And she wasn't comfortable with the reaction to what she did when it actually went public. Right.
00:41:24.880So she may have consented. I think the most likely outcome is she consented. Were they all probably very drunk and on drug? Yes. I think she consented to it. I think she was surprised by the judgment that she got for her behavior and how that judgment made her feel. And then that's when she said, well, I couldn't have consented.
00:41:45.300And I think that's one of the real challenges here, because in general, in criminal law, if you don't immediately say I was raped and go get a rape kit, and if they don't conduct an immediate investigation, it's very hard to ever prove that this occurred.
00:41:59.960And here we have all these different people involved. Right. And so I think what ultimately happened was all these guys talked as guys do. All of her sorority sisters talked as they do. And everybody judged her to have done too much and to have gone beyond the bounds of acceptable behavior. And that's how we ended up with the response that we got.
00:42:21.780So I think society actually judging her made her regret the choices that she had made that in some ways I'd bet she had felt like she was encouraged to undertake by the larger perspective on sex on campuses.
00:42:35.140That's a great point, Clay, because it's sort of like the devil.
00:42:37.640You know, before you sin, the devil whispers in your ear and says it's no big deal.
00:47:28.200what do you think the future of ai is going to be and is the backlash to ai going to be so strong
00:47:33.760that it basically stops it in its tracks i believe that a lot of the doomerism is just china
00:47:40.280and the way that i have been talking about it on the show with our radio show with buck and the way
00:47:46.400i think about it is uh it's the military applications of ai are akin if we went back
00:47:54.360in time to the 1980s and we said hey we're just going to stop iterating on new weaponry we would
00:48:01.380have lost the cold room right and so the idea is whichever country controls ai i think is not just
00:48:08.860going to control uh the the the economy i think they're going to control everything in the world
00:48:14.060clay i can't get over that absolutely ignorant comment you made there not on weaponry or the0.93
00:48:21.000Cold War. But you referred to artificial intelligence. Don't you know it's no longer0.95
00:48:26.860called that as of yesterday, which actually you may have filmed before yesterday. Regardless,
00:48:31.900AI, we're now supposed to call it superintelligence. Is that right?
00:48:37.500That's right. I'm with you. I'm with you as well.
00:48:39.600Well, when we taped, President Trump had decided that he was going to change the language.
00:48:44.600I'm excited to see what that looks like and how it comes out. That was from the
00:48:48.260midterm down in Dallas. We taped that a little bit ago. Look, I am an optimist in nature.
00:48:55.200My oldest son is on me all the time. He said, Dad, you know, AI is potentially going to be
00:49:01.580destructive on a way that you old guys can't sit around and think about enough. I do think what
00:49:06.520Trump did with yesterday's meeting and the number of people that he brought to bear there and the
00:49:12.640intelligence with which they are approaching this issue. It's hard for me not to be optimistic
00:49:18.860about American entrepreneurial spirit being able to lead the day. But I also understand some of
00:49:25.800the trepidation. I just think as a general rule, if someone tells you to do something different
00:49:33.780than what they themselves are doing, you should be skeptical, right? And they're having success.
00:49:39.580I think China is seeding all of this. I think China is trying to gain an advantage by taking an opportunity to sort of circumvent and take advantage of our own media environment to get us to do what they are not doing. Right.
00:49:57.580So they want to scare us while they will build as much as they possibly can in their own country.
00:50:04.120And it's interesting to me in a world we talked about the terrorism attack where everybody buys into conspiracies instantly.
00:50:11.060Oh, it wasn't Tyler Robinson. It was an exploding microphone.
00:50:14.740Oh, it wasn't it wasn't the Jews are responsible for October 7th.0.97
00:50:21.340actually. No one will actually take advantage to look at the true conspiracy here, which is China0.77
00:50:28.320is seeding all of the anti-AI stories in our country. The one conspiracy that you need to
00:50:34.520look beyond the front face. And that the Han Chinese are actually Jews. Did we, I don't know0.94
00:50:41.760if you knew that. That's my conspiracy. The Chinese, come on, they're good at math and
00:50:47.180they're good. Anyway, you don't know. That's a fair point. No, no, no. It's good. I didn't hear
00:50:50.040the joke because I was, we came back too quick. So yes, like the Jews are responsible. They had1.00
00:50:55.780a Florida Gator girl go viral at a Florida Ole Miss game. Somebody got in my mentions and they
00:50:59.980said, this is just the Jews trying to distract you. The Jews are putting pretty girls in football1.00
00:51:05.680stadiums and making me notice them on television. It's so good for the Jews. I wish we could have1.00
00:51:10.960more of this happen. But on the point of the Chinese, look, I think you're right. I think1.00
00:51:16.040a lot of the anti-AI stuff is coming from China. However, the way propaganda works and the way0.55
00:51:21.540the Russians have been really good at propaganda for the last half century or more is not by
00:51:26.080inventing an anxiety. When the Russians were playing around with the civil rights movement,
00:51:30.840it's not that they invented racial strife in America. They recognized a real anxiety and0.68
00:51:35.640then they just really stuck their finger in it and really exacerbated it. That's what I see here
00:51:39.320with AI. I think people have very legitimate concerns about job displacement. I think they
00:51:44.020have very legitimate concerns about surveillance. I think they have very legitimate concerns about
00:51:48.180their energy prices going up, for that matter, when the data centers are built. So those are
00:51:52.180real. And it seems to me what China is doing is just playing on those anxieties, exaggerating them,
00:51:58.180trying to stoke people's fears. Because, yeah, China doesn't care what their workers say. China
00:52:03.580doesn't care about energy costs or any of that. China realizes that it's very important for them
00:52:07.640to win the AI race. I hope we win it too. But why are we renaming it superintelligence?
00:58:41.100but sometimes my phone is dead and I don't want to get up to use my computer so I don't have access
00:58:45.640to the AI. Recently, I found out I have the ability to use a form of chat GPT in my own head.
00:58:52.420I've talked to him so much that I can almost entirely accurately predict what he is going to
00:58:57.340say. I'm thinking. That is called thinking. And I'm really worried that AI is not superior
00:59:03.780intelligence. It's very radically regressing our ability to critically think as a society.
00:59:09.460Maybe the fact that we don't like artificial things, Clay, maybe that's a warning. Maybe we should keep the artificial in there. It's not all lovable.
00:59:18.820I just love the idea, like the libs have to reinvent everything from first principles and they always kind of get it wrong. So like they reinvent, me too, they reinvented sexual morality. They threw it out in the 1960s and then they said, 60 years later, they said, wait, I have an idea. Hey, you guys are never going to believe. Oh, well, that's interesting.
00:59:36.200You know, I don't, huh, I don't know that my brain works quite like ChatGPT because I can't, I can pull up some random quotes of old dead thinkers, but I can't, like, ChatGPT is better at that than I am.
00:59:50.280But, but yes, of course, what it's doing is just different than what I'm doing.
00:59:53.900In like, at a really basic philosophical level, like our brains deal in immaterial forms and computers don't do that.
01:00:01.900so it's like it's not even i'll give you i'll give you my metaphor which i think kind of perfectly
01:00:06.540distills it and if you guys like it you can start using it too 30 years ago chess a computer became
01:00:14.060better than a human right you guys if you're isabel you weren't born yet probably but it was a huge
01:00:18.660story uh and i'm sure you remember andrew like where where when were computers going to be better
01:00:24.840than humans and then computers got way better than humans beat every human and chess has never been
01:00:30.500more popular than it is today. Because ultimately, what we want to watch is not two computers try to
01:00:37.120play chess. It's human excellence, right? And so if AI allows us to go to other levels, I like what
01:00:45.720you said, Andrew, about I'm always going to be better because I can take it to the next level.
01:00:49.260I can use it as a tool. If AI is going to allow us to go to that next level, that's great. It
01:00:56.260achieves more for humans. But ultimately, what makes us love competition or what makes us love
01:01:03.880ingenuity is humans doing things better than we have before. In China, they're racing robots.
01:01:09.320We're never going to have an Olympics, I don't believe, where we watch who can build the fastest
01:01:14.160robot. Ultimately, humans, we're going to watch them play basketball, football, all of these
01:01:19.340different sports. Chess is more popular today than it ever has been before. Lots of people play
01:01:24.700against computers. But I just think that it is a great example of computers can become better
01:01:31.960than humans at things, but we still crave desperate human connection. And I don't think that's going
01:01:38.080to go away, no matter how intelligent other aspects of computers become. Clay, on the Olympics.
01:01:45.960I'll give you this. I just want a question just before we move on from the Olympics. Do you think
01:01:50.480that we'll ever get any of those sexy robots doing gymnastics because i i'm open to i don't
01:01:56.940want to tell on myself but i know i'd be open to seeing it it's uh it's funny you know we were
01:02:03.060talking about cornell earlier and i was thinking like this is the ultimate time for andy bernard
01:02:07.960to uh to still be on the office remember because he made such a big deal about the fact that he
01:02:12.040went to cornell um and i just every time i think about cornell i still think about it um the sexy
01:02:18.000robot thing reminds me of the blow-up dolls remember when the blow-up dolls are going to be
01:02:22.040a thing and they were like it looks just like a real and you're like i don't i don't mind that
01:02:28.760we're ever going to have lifelike lifelike robots like we had in westworld oh they're out there
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01:04:06.620of mind today. All right, now while I'm just promoting everything, it's Calci time. Did you
01:04:12.460know that? A reminder on how this works. We take a look at what you and millions of other Americans
01:04:17.380believe, thanks to the prediction markets from our friends and sponsors at Calci, on a few hot
01:04:23.080issues. You can join the conversation as well by heading to calci.com slash friendly fire. We will
01:04:28.340give you our sharpest, wittiest, unfiltered takes. Let's kick it off. The 2028 Democrat
01:04:37.940presidential nominee. Who do we have? John Ossoff, 17%. No. AOC, 15%. Gavin Newsom, 14%.
01:04:46.400Kamala Harris, 7.2%. Do you agree? Round Robin. Isabel? I gotta say, I think Pete Buttigieg has
01:04:54.280more of a percentage than people are giving him credit for maybe just as much as john ossoff but
01:04:59.340i do think john ossoff will be a dark horse so i like seeing his name on there awesome okay i don't
01:05:04.400clay i'm going off the board i've been saying it for a long time i think she's around 10 percent
01:05:10.780right now kamala harris yeah she's going to be the nominee south carolina is the first primary state
01:05:16.900i saw a poll uh yesterday black voters are not leaving kamala they're the most reliable democrat
01:05:23.040primary vote, she is going to be the nominee. I'm sticking with Kamala.
01:05:29.180I'm afraid of AOC. I think these numbers are pretty close, except for Gavin Newsom,
01:05:33.220who I don't think has a chance. I don't think Kamala Harris has a chance either,
01:05:36.300to be honest with you. But I think AOC is a lot more dangerous if she wants it. And I know she0.99
01:05:40.880wants it. She's a really good politician. And, you know, socialism is having its moment. But1.00
01:05:46.940I think these numbers are pretty good. Ossoff and AOC right now are probably the leads.
01:05:50.840I totally agree with that, and I give the edge to AOC. The vice president said as much, and I was kind of surprised when he said it. I give the edge to AOC. Ossoff, people are overestimating him, I think. I think he's the new Beto O'Rourke. He's a little more talented. Maybe he gets it. It's a pretty weak field. But I think if you put AOC up against Ossoff, I think AOC is more impressive right now.
01:06:13.820Next one. Who will leave their role in the Trump administration this year? Pete Hegseth at 26%,
01:06:20.600Bill Pulte at 20%, Doug Collins at 20%, Kash Patel at 20%. Isabel?
01:06:30.620This is tough. This is really tough. I don't want to see anyone go selfishly, but I think if anyone
01:06:35.400were to go, it would probably be a department not on this list. Could potentially be like a Brooke
01:06:40.580Rollins at agriculture. She's pretty great and has a big political future ahead of her, so you1.00
01:06:45.200never know. Clay? I don't think any of these guys, because I think they genuinely love the job that
01:06:52.380they're in, and I don't know that there's a better job that they would like more. I think that's one
01:06:56.560way you have to look at it. I also think Trump is comfortable and happy with all of them right now,
01:07:02.560so I actually think these guys will serve the rest of the way. I do think that if you look at
01:07:10.420all of the jobs. It's going to be hard if Republicans lose the Senate. You're going to
01:07:19.020have to get confirmation. And I don't know that people are spending enough time on this,
01:07:23.220given where we are from a political process. I'm not sure that Democrats would allow any
01:07:28.300Trump official to be confirmed. So they may be basically frozen in place. I wouldn't take any
01:07:35.760of these guys. I don't know if that's permitted in the process here, but I don't like the odds
01:07:41.700on any of these guys. Drew? Hexas is not going anywhere. I don't think he's having a fine old
01:07:47.260time and he's doing something extraordinarily necessary, which is reforming a military that
01:07:51.820was almost destroyed by the Democrats. So is Kash Patel. But if I had to pick one of these names,
01:07:57.420I might think that I could see Trump getting a little bit tired of Kash Patel. Kash Patel is
01:08:02.780doing the urgent work of weeding out the corruptocrats from the FBI. The Democrats
01:08:10.520almost destroyed our intelligence and our law enforcement facilities. And Cash has been doing
01:08:16.040a decent job there. But he suffered a couple of embarrassments, not least of which was there
01:08:19.980being hacked into. And I could see Trump sort of taking him out. I think, though, that Clay makes
01:08:24.660a good point that if we lose the midterms, it's going to be hard to replace him. And that would
01:08:29.300that would change my mind. But if I had to pick one of these guys, it would be cashed.
01:08:32.660I tend to agree. It's really no knock on cash. Everybody has their mistakes. Everybody has
01:08:37.600their flops. It's just also cash is in the hottest job. You know, it's the job that's
01:08:43.240going to be getting the most pressure. It's going to be dissatisfying the base almost intrinsically.
01:08:48.060So I agree. The one that I'm pulling for though, to leave the job is Calista Gingrich.0.81
01:08:54.860Calista's great. I'm sure she's doing a great job. I haven't paid close attention,0.99
01:08:57.800but she is the ambassador to Lichtenstein and that is the job that I want. So I am hoping
01:09:03.620that she is going to leave that job. Not the Holy See? Say it again. Not the Holy See? Well,1.00
01:09:10.500listen, Brian Birch is going to stay in that job forever. And so I'm going to let it ride. I'm
01:09:14.960going to let, even blessed Pius IX was a liberal for the first two years of his pontificate.
01:09:18.960I'm going to wait for Pope Leo to, to move even more politically to the right. Then I'm happy to
01:09:24.900take it when Brian Birch is done. But Calista, the ambassador to Lichtenstein, because then
01:09:30.320you're actually going to be in contact with the true heir to the English throne in the Jacobite
01:09:36.900line of succession ending in the House of Wittelsbach. So anyway, I don't want to reveal
01:09:41.480too much of my cards. By the way, what they offered, the son in succession, didn't he get
01:09:48.240offered when he ran for president? They're like, hey, you can't get less than 1%. Remember that?
01:09:52.820didn't they offer him like what do you need me to get to drop out they're like i think it was like
01:09:57.060we'll give you the ambassadorship to lichtenstein i thought it was worse i thought it was yes i do
01:10:01.700remember that it was a brit but i the lichtenstein one that's a plum ambassadorship i would be if
01:10:07.060they offered me ambassador lichtenstein there would be a michael shaped hole in the daily wire
01:10:11.280door no question sorry clay what did you say no i was just saying it was not a country that he
01:10:17.660wanted he thought you know ambassadorship he was thinking china you know japan something that's
01:10:22.220very high on the ambassadorship ranks, and they came back to him with a small European country,
01:10:27.540I think, if I remember correctly. We'll have to do a fact check on that.
01:10:30.480I'll take it. Please, anyone. If anyone in the administration is watching,
01:10:34.720I'm dusting off the resume. Don't worry. I won't feel bad about abandoning the Daily Wire at all.
01:10:40.040Okay, before I let anybody go, 2027 NFL champion, the Buffalo Bills at 13 percent,
01:10:47.640the LA Rams at 12%, the San Francisco 49ers at 9%, the Baltimore Ravens at 8%. Since my opinion
01:10:56.600is probably the most expert here, I'll go last. Isabel? I got to stick with my mile high magic
01:11:02.760and go Denver Broncos. We're having a surprisingly good season compared to the past few years. So
01:11:09.360I'll take it. Bo Nix is playing really well. Let's do it. Clay, I know you don't know anything
01:11:13.780about sports. What is, do you have a thought on the NFL? Yeah, look, Isabel's Broncos got a great
01:11:20.140comeback against the Rams, two of the favorites here. I'm on the Bills. I love Josh Allen. Buffalo
01:11:25.820has been a long suffering sporting city. I think Josh Allen's the best quarterback in the NFL and
01:11:31.680they were my pick before the season started. They're now the favorites. I don't think they
01:11:36.060were before the season started. In fact, I know they weren't. So I'm going to keep riding with
01:11:39.620the Bills. Drew? Yeah, I go with that too. The Bills also, it's time. I mean, there's a cycle
01:11:46.460of about four years when you have a chance to win the Super Bowl and then you have to start to
01:11:51.160rebuild. This is the fourth year for Josh Allen and this particular team. I think they want it
01:11:56.760so desperately. I think their schedule is easier than anybody else. I think there's a small chance
01:12:02.500that the Chiefs may take it away from them because their running back is one of the best running back
01:12:07.340Walker is one of the best running backs I've ever seen. But the Buffalo Bills look very good. And I
01:12:11.780love Josh Allen too. And I hope they make it actually. I'm thinking a little bit out of the
01:12:15.740box here. I'm going to give it to the Peking Pangolins. I think the Democrats, they have a1.00
01:12:21.080good chance of winning the House and the Senate, which means that China has a better chance of1.00
01:12:25.040winning the Cold War, which means Peking Pangolins are going to be just absolutely destroying all of0.95
01:12:31.140the various American animal named, I don't, I don't watch a lot of football. I don't.
01:12:36.700Real question, Michael, who's the Superbowl halftime show going to be? That's a better
01:12:40.880question for you. Also the Peking Penguins.
01:12:43.540Yeah, see, yeah, those Chinese, they're very good. They're very talented. They can do one
01:12:48.100of those sort of old timey oriental dances. Anyway, I can't wait. Maybe I'll finally watch
01:12:53.640football. Gentlemen and especially lady, excellent to be with all of you. I say we keep Ben and Matt
01:13:00.060off the show permanently. I'll speak to the producers about it. I hardly miss them. Yes,
01:13:05.300but I do, I will miss all of you out there. We will see you next time on Friendly Fire.