The Michael Knowles Show - October 28, 2026


Friendly Fire: Israel Election Stalemate & Dancing Into the Midterms

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00:00:58.540 You're not going to know after the election tonight
00:01:00.200 who's the prime minister
00:01:00.860 because there's not a clear majority,
00:01:03.680 almost certainly in either direction.
00:01:05.740 Yeah, right.
00:01:06.340 That's what I've been reading.
00:01:08.480 Yeah, like the also attempts to,
00:01:11.300 as with all foreign elections,
00:01:12.240 attempts to project American ideas
00:01:14.320 onto what the foreign country's election is 0.99
00:01:16.800 are really silly. 0.99
00:01:17.660 Yeah. 0.98
00:01:18.280 Like the Bolsonaro failure in Brazil
00:01:20.960 was not about Trump
00:01:21.680 and Bibi not doing particularly well in this election
00:01:24.400 will be not about Trump.
00:01:26.460 And it will also not even really be about October 7th.
00:01:28.920 There are like a bunch of domestic political issues
00:01:30.460 over there that have been percolating
00:01:31.620 for the last 10 years.
00:01:33.560 And essentially you have precisely
00:01:35.260 the same election situation
00:01:36.660 that you had back in 2022.
00:01:38.220 Right, right.
00:01:38.960 I mean, I can explain all of it.
00:01:40.440 I mean, it's actually not that hard to explain, but yeah.
00:01:43.540 Isn't there any kind of sense
00:01:45.100 that there has to be a reckoning about October 7th?
00:01:47.840 I mean, I think Netanyahu is terrific,
00:01:50.220 but somebody I mean so the answer is kind of yes but the truth is every single person
00:01:55.460 in power has been involved in all of this meaning that the opposition is led by Gadi
00:02:00.680 Eisenhower Gadi Eisenhower was the head of the IDF yeah um the the other two members of the
00:02:06.500 opposition are Yair Lapid and Naftali Bennett who are both prime minister in in the years leading
00:02:10.900 up to October 7th and so literally everybody who is in Israeli politics was in a position of power
00:02:16.720 in the years leading up to October 7th,
00:02:18.420 there really is not any real new blood in the election.
00:02:21.540 And so what this really comes down to, as always,
00:02:23.960 is about 65, 70% of the Israeli public
00:02:26.560 actually agrees on policy.
00:02:28.160 And then it's all about,
00:02:29.540 do you want a coalition with Bibi?
00:02:30.860 Do you not want a coalition with Bibi?
00:02:32.840 There are obviously people upset at Bibi
00:02:35.300 for having cut the heads off
00:02:36.380 a bunch of his political opponents,
00:02:38.100 the people who are upset with Bibi
00:02:39.580 because they think that he has
00:02:41.000 corruption allegations against him,
00:02:42.720 that he's been prime minister too long,
00:02:44.220 and all of that.
00:02:45.380 And so the most likely outcome of all of this is either a unity government or a new election.
00:02:51.400 I think that both sides, the Bibi side and the opposition side, neither one of them are likely to reach the 61 vote majority necessary to have a fully functional government.
00:03:00.300 And so you could theoretically have minority government where Gadi Eisenkot has like 50 seats. 0.80
00:03:05.140 And then the Arabs from outside the government don't bring it down with a no confidence vote, but they don't sit inside the government. 0.81
00:03:11.160 I think that's unlikely.
00:03:12.160 There are other members of Eisenkot's coalition who don't want to do that.
00:03:14.300 And so the kind of great hope, I think, on all sides is for what's called the unity government, where Netanyahu and his opposition are in the same government, and they basically have a rotating prime ministership.
00:03:25.140 This would be convenient because two years from now, the presidency of Israel comes open.
00:03:29.720 That's kind of a ceremonial position, like the Queen of England.
00:03:32.340 And that means that Bibi would kick from the prime ministership into the presidency, and then Eisenkot would take over at that point.
00:03:38.960 And you'd end up with a pretty durable majority, probably 75 seats, 80 seats in the Knesset.
00:03:43.440 That's kind of what everybody's hoping, but it'll take a while to get there.
00:03:45.600 Oh, interesting.
00:03:46.500 Yeah, that kind of makes sense.
00:03:47.260 I mean, you can't remain prime minister literally forever.
00:03:50.620 At some point, he's going to have to get out of there.
00:03:53.460 That's interesting.
00:03:54.080 And again, the distinctions between the parties are very, very narrow.
00:03:57.180 So, Eisenkot agrees with him on Gaza.
00:03:58.840 He agrees with him on Lebanon.
00:03:59.860 He mostly agrees with him on Iran.
00:04:01.460 He agrees with him on economics.
00:04:02.800 So, this is really much more about sort of political maneuvering and the weirdness of
00:04:06.740 a parliamentary system where everybody's sort of gaming for a particular ministry,
00:04:11.220 by a minister of defense or minister of foreign affairs or whatever it is.
00:04:14.960 And so because of all of that, it's a lot more complicated than the public would want it to be
00:04:19.920 and a lot more personal. It has almost nothing to do with the response to October 7th. If there's
00:04:24.900 one kind of chief issue in Israeli politics, it remains the drafting of the Haredim, the so-called
00:04:30.960 ultra-Orthodox. They are drafted. They're the people who are sitting with Bibi in the coalition.
00:04:36.760 And so a lot of the people who don't like the Haredim, for this reason, which I actually agree
00:04:41.060 that the Haredim should be drafted,
00:04:42.580 that for this reason,
00:04:43.680 they don't want to vote
00:04:44.220 for Bibi's coalition.
00:04:45.860 So the new unity coalition
00:04:47.820 would actually probably exclude
00:04:49.140 the Haredim. 0.88
00:04:50.220 And so you'd end up with everybody
00:04:51.180 from Smutrich on the right
00:04:52.320 over to maybe even Yair Golan
00:04:54.140 on the left, not the Haredim.
00:04:55.920 And then you solve the Haredi issue. 0.90
00:04:57.040 But the Haredi issue lies beneath 0.95
00:04:58.220 pretty much everything
00:04:59.000 in Israeli public life. 1.00
00:05:00.320 Imagine if you had a population
00:05:01.260 in the United States 0.65
00:05:02.040 that let's say we had universal draft
00:05:04.120 and there was one population
00:05:05.120 that not only did not do military service,
00:05:07.360 but was also heavily welfare dependent
00:05:08.880 and didn't believe in the
00:05:10.540 quote-unquote secular state, well, that's the Haredim. And so there's enormous amounts of
00:05:15.620 discontent with the Haredi population, which is also increasing incredibly fast and represents a
00:05:19.540 major voting bloc. And then there's also another major voting bloc, which is the Arab voting bloc
00:05:23.100 in Israel, which also doesn't do military services, also very welfare dependent, and also has qualms
00:05:28.640 about the existence of the state. So again, there's kind of this middle, but that middle
00:05:32.500 has been unable to come together. But what about, you know, obviously the response to October 7th
00:05:38.240 there's been one thing, but just the fact that it happened, the fact that this shoebox of a country
00:05:42.800 surrounded by genocidal maniacs, you know, let down its guard like that, doesn't somebody have
00:05:49.080 to be hung out to dry for that? I mean, normally, again, the answer would be yes, but the question
00:05:53.880 is who is the party best place to hang somebody out to dry? Meaning, again, the opposition is led
00:05:58.700 by a guy who was in Bibi's war cabinet at the beginning of the war from October 7th to June
00:06:02.840 2024. Eisenkult was literally in the war cabinet with Netanyahu, and again, he was the head of the
00:06:07.440 IDF. And so there's something in Israel, it's called the conceptia, right? Conception. And so
00:06:12.160 there are a lot of Hebrew words that are sort of bastardizations of English words. A conception is
00:06:15.980 conceptia in Israel. And so there's this idea in Israel that was bipartisan, that Hamas had
00:06:20.600 basically been contained and that now they just wanted to govern their little area. And that was
00:06:25.060 a bipartisan consensus that was held by everybody from the opposition to the Bibi of it. And so I 0.98
00:06:31.060 think that it would be very hard for anyone to say this was just a Bibi problem, as opposed to 0.81
00:06:35.360 This is a whole problem with every party. 0.96
00:06:37.880 And there hasn't been kind of a next generation
00:06:40.180 of leadership to rise yet
00:06:41.740 to replace all of the old leaders.
00:06:43.760 And I think that's kind of what you're saying. 1.00
00:06:44.780 I thought the issue with the Haredim
00:06:46.240 and military service was that you couldn't fit a helmet
00:06:49.120 over those big fur hats.
00:06:51.400 I mean, there must be some haberdasher way to fix that.
00:06:56.020 I don't know.
00:06:56.480 I'm not an expert, obviously, on Israeli affairs.
00:06:58.740 Much more important issue, though, gentlemen,
00:07:01.100 the dictionary.com word of the year is maxing.
00:07:04.860 and I feel somewhat responsible for that
00:07:08.520 and I'm very delighted by it as well.
00:07:11.140 Mr. Clavicular changing not only politics and media
00:07:14.100 but also the English language.
00:07:17.000 Yes, a very important person
00:07:18.380 and I hope you were mentioned
00:07:20.300 as proving that you're one of the pettiest, 0.86
00:07:23.580 least important people.
00:07:24.560 I really, I wanted to,
00:07:27.120 this is like a very unpopular view.
00:07:30.160 Clavicular, who again, I only sat down with once.
00:07:32.620 It's like Clavicular, I hardly know her
00:07:34.160 but I was very, very impressed.
00:07:36.980 Very impressed.
00:07:37.840 That guy is one of the youngest media geniuses
00:07:42.400 I've ever met in my life.
00:07:44.440 He knew exactly what to say
00:07:46.340 and just the way to say it.
00:07:47.640 He was, he was,
00:07:48.380 I know people like make fun of him
00:07:49.500 and it seems kind of goofy and everything. 0.98
00:07:51.160 He hits himself in the head with a hammer.
00:07:53.060 I was actually very impressed with Clavicular
00:07:55.040 and I feel like dictionary.com has vindicated me.
00:07:58.160 Oh my gosh.
00:07:58.940 Isn't there some kind of investigation
00:08:00.680 for like chasing people?
00:08:02.680 Yeah, he was like shooting alligators with a gun and, you know, he has a different woman every night.
00:08:07.180 Yeah, there's a lot of, you know, he's got to get on the right path and everything.
00:08:10.660 But beyond that, you know, the guy, I don't even think he invented the word maxing.
00:08:15.220 He just popularized it.
00:08:16.740 And now he gets all the credit for it.
00:08:18.940 Here's the thing.
00:08:20.580 In the history of the English language, there have been certain figures who have radically expanded our use of it.
00:08:25.980 And predominantly, I'm thinking here of Shakespeare, who entered a bunch of phrases into the parlance that we are still using today.
00:08:34.560 I am bemused by the fact that the people who used to expand the English language were some of the brightest and most well-read and well-spoken people on the planet at the time.
00:08:45.540 And now we have been reduced to this unwee-laden 22-year-old who nearly dies of drug overdoses in the clubs.
00:08:52.860 and this is where we are getting our uh this is where we are getting our linguistic upgrades i
00:08:57.500 know it's it's it's terrible it's terrible in every way oh my god also i have to say like this
00:09:04.460 is not to take a to take a a maximizing would be the word and to just shorten it to maxing yeah
00:09:12.740 and then to proclaim that this is a new word is the dumbest form of change in the english language
00:09:18.080 that I could possibly imagine. 0.64
00:09:20.260 No, but it's more concise now.
00:09:22.100 You don't get it.
00:09:22.880 It's now, but it's more concise.
00:09:24.920 Well, I mean, I can, we should just call it ming.
00:09:27.580 We'll make it shorter. 1.00
00:09:28.680 We'll just keep shortening it.
00:09:30.280 Eventually, we'll just grunt at one another.
00:09:32.000 We'll actually just hold up pyroglyphics.
00:09:33.680 We're turning back to our animal state
00:09:35.600 by taking words that were four syllables,
00:09:37.900 and now we are turning them into two syllables
00:09:39.400 and congratulating ourselves on the feast.
00:09:41.140 Think about the providence of it, though.
00:09:42.460 This announcement came out right around,
00:09:44.180 what feast did we just have?
00:09:45.960 St. Crispin's Day.
00:09:47.860 Is this a cosmic analogy between clavicular and Shakespeare?
00:09:53.840 Both of their names end in error.
00:09:56.620 You know, this is, I don't know.
00:09:58.200 Anyway, I just want to take all the credit for it if I possibly can.
00:10:01.020 Another story that we must hit before I hit the teaser is Anthropic is going to IPO for 10 gazillion, bajillion dollars.
00:10:09.940 And they are telling you, as they're trying to sell people on their company, they're saying that they might destroy the world.
00:10:15.960 which seems like a bad strategy
00:10:17.860 if you want to have a really good IPO
00:10:19.380 and yet this is the story
00:10:21.820 the whole time. Is the world going
00:10:23.800 to end and should I buy in on the
00:10:25.860 IPO?
00:10:27.660 Well, I'm in if it's going to end.
00:10:30.160 I want to invest.
00:10:32.060 I think that would be
00:10:33.880 what I would be investing in. I would be investing in
00:10:35.780 put us all out of our misery.
00:10:38.780 I don't need a return.
00:10:39.880 That's enough of a return for me. Hold that thought.
00:10:42.100 It's Friendly Fire.
00:10:45.960 Yeah, no, I was just going to say, it is an amazing IPO strategy, actually, because it's sort of like the greatest humble brag.
00:10:55.720 It's like the Oppenheimer humble brag, right? Like, like, look at me. This is so horrible. It's so horrible.
00:11:01.180 I have the godlike powers to destroy all of mankind in my hands. And what am I going to do with that?
00:11:07.560 I'm like little old me having having just having the capacity to destroy all of humankind.
00:11:12.720 fine. Anthropic is basically saying our technology is so unbelievably good that we could destroy all
00:11:17.640 of you like that. And also, you can buy into that at the grand price, at the grand bargain
00:11:23.440 basement price of X dollars per share. It is ridiculous. AI is not going to destroy all of 0.98
00:11:29.900 humanity. AI will have some impact on the job market. It will make many things more efficient.
00:11:36.040 And that's pretty much what it's going to do. If the gigantic thermonuclear weapons that were
00:11:40.940 created by mankind, literally obliterate all of humankind, did not obliterate all of humankind,
00:11:45.280 and in fact sort of made humankind slightly more peaceful, then I have a feeling that
00:11:49.720 Anthropik's release of the next version of Claude isn't going to do it.
00:11:53.460 You know, an investor buddy of ours, someone, he's a civilian, so we won't name him, but
00:11:58.560 he's someone that we all know. He, a very smart investor, he is kind of an AI bear. He thinks
00:12:05.300 that this is all really overblown and they're making promises that they can't possibly keep
00:12:09.800 and these valuations are totally insane.
00:12:11.680 And he, Ben, has the exact same take that you do,
00:12:13.900 which is that all of this talk about how we have to contain this model of Claude
00:12:18.720 because it's too powerful, it's too genius, it's going to destroy the world,
00:12:22.600 that it's basically all just marketing and PR.
00:12:25.440 And these are interesting computer companies,
00:12:28.300 but let's keep it in perspective, people.
00:12:30.960 Your life is not going to end as we know it.
00:12:33.280 I think, though, that there must be some good to it
00:12:37.340 because China is spending an awful lot of money spreading panic and trying to convince us that 0.63
00:12:42.400 this shouldn't be done and that there's nothing to see here before it kills us all. A lot of that 0.53
00:12:48.200 stuff is coming from overseas. And that means to me that it's a useful tool that they don't want 1.00
00:12:53.140 us to have. And we're obviously ahead of everybody with it. And we should just stay that way. I'm
00:12:57.880 with Ben and being kind of sanguine about it. I'm sure it's got some dangers, just like nuclear
00:13:03.100 bombs had dangers, but it is kind of amazing that the major thing, I mean, are nuclear weapons the
00:13:08.920 first major advance in weaponry that has not been used for this long a time? It must be unique in
00:13:16.080 that. And so people actually, you know, people don't destroy their homes until they've moved
00:13:20.440 out. So when the new world was discovered, then they had the world wars that took Europe out, 0.73
00:13:24.820 you know, but first they had to be able to come to America. So maybe when Elon Musk gets to Mars,
00:13:29.220 we should go with them because after that the earth is you know they can get rid of the earth
00:13:34.360 the earth is extraneous but i just i just don't see it it seems like a really useful tool it's
00:13:38.980 going to be interesting it's going to be it's going to be a big change i think i think there's
00:13:42.800 going to be changes involved in it but but why can't people just use it i mean why you know i i
00:13:49.420 use it i use it in very primitive ways but i think that uh i see people using it in really good ways
00:13:54.660 The thing that worries me about it most is that the porn is going to be great.
00:13:59.480 It's already great.
00:14:00.880 13-year-old kids.
00:14:02.560 No, this is true. 0.67
00:14:03.380 13-year-old kids are making porn out of their fantasies with local girls in the porn. 0.75
00:14:10.640 And I think that that's awful. 0.99
00:14:12.520 I think you might as well just feed them poison now because I think that's going to poison their minds and poison their lives and poison their sex lives. 0.71
00:14:19.800 So that, to me, is where the kind of danger that I'm looking at.
00:14:23.300 I don't think it's going to take over a nuclear, you know, facility and blow us all through.
00:14:28.060 No, I had this fear right when AI and like deep fakes and everything were coming out.
00:14:32.420 Everyone was talking about how terrible it was that some actress, you know, Jennifer Lawrence or whatever, was going to have all this fake porn made of her.
00:14:40.260 And I remember, this was years ago, I said, no, no, the real fear is that like that girl in your math class is going to have all this porn made of her.
00:14:46.420 But what about the concern that AI is going to get really, really good.
00:14:50.800 it's going to be able to defeat all of our security software. It's going to hack everybody's
00:14:54.480 bank account. It's going to get everybody's information. And there's no way to control it.
00:14:59.140 Some of the AI oligarchs have been warning about that. Is that not a real threat?
00:15:03.980 Yeah. No, that's a real threat. But I think that one of the things that the same AI oligarchs are
00:15:08.820 gaming for is the possibility of that threat, not by restricting the development of AI,
00:15:12.320 but by developing countermeasures for that sort of stuff. I mean, weaponry has advanced for all
00:15:17.400 of human history. And then there's been counterweaponry that's been created in order to
00:15:21.440 legitimately stop all of that from happening. And so this isn't a gigantic secret. I mean,
00:15:26.040 people have been talking about the idea that essentially the AI is going to be able to break
00:15:30.820 crypto, that it's going to be able to decode and decrypt everything on the internet, and all your
00:15:35.220 passwords are going to become obsolete for a while. So I'd be a little shocked if nobody had
00:15:39.260 planned a sort of defensive mechanism against all of that. It doesn't mean that there aren't
00:15:43.580 going to be dangerous to it. But I think, again, the sort of catastrophic doomerism about all of
00:15:48.220 this is a little bizarre. And I think it's a tendent on any major shift in the economy. I
00:15:54.400 think people are looking for sort of reasons that are not just, I'm afraid for my job as to why you
00:15:59.220 should be scared of this, because it sounds a little bit, you know, namby-pamby to be scared
00:16:02.200 for your job because of AI. But it sounds a lot more altruistic to say that I'm afraid that all
00:16:05.640 of humanity is going to be destroyed and the nuclear codes are going to be broken. But I think
00:16:09.260 there's legitimate concern for people who are in white collar jobs, that their job could be lost in
00:16:15.140 the near future, that there'll be job transitions and they'll have to figure out something new to
00:16:19.340 do. But again, the thing that I keep thinking about is how I use AI and how I think other
00:16:24.480 people use AI. It is a tool. It is not a thing doing something to me. I'm not being acted upon
00:16:29.600 by AI. I am acting upon the AI. I am the agent in this particular mode. Now, I know they say that
00:16:35.220 eventually they'll become independent agents. But I would assume that there are fail-safes that are
00:16:39.380 put in place so that the independence of the agent isn't capable of just overrunning the
00:16:43.600 entire system. Now, again, I'm not saying there's no risk to it, but it seems to me that right now,
00:16:47.840 the vast majority of people are not using AI to develop biological weapons against one another. 0.96
00:16:52.000 It seems like they're mostly using it to, at worst, create horrible pornography or dumb memes 0.98
00:16:57.600 on the internet. And I think that like every other tool, I think the real danger of AI actually is
00:17:02.820 that is going to exacerbate a lot of the already present conflict over widening trajectories
00:17:08.380 economically. I think that's the thing that is going to have real societal impact because
00:17:12.840 there's this idea from the tech bros that the democratization of intelligence, right? That's
00:17:17.340 all AI is. Everyone will just be super smart now, right? You're a 100 IQ guy. AI is infinite IQ.
00:17:22.460 Therefore, you plus AI is infinite IQ. I don't think that any tool in human history has ever
00:17:27.060 worked this way. I think that people who are smart tend to use tools better than people who
00:17:31.500 are not quite as smart. People who are adept tend to use tools in ways that people who are not adept
00:17:35.620 don't tend to use those tools. And so if you think of AI as a tool, then it will probably broaden
00:17:40.380 some of the inequalities you see in sort of the natural performance of human beings in ways
00:17:43.940 that are upsetting to the apple cart. I also, I just have to caution some of you.
00:17:50.040 So, well, Drew, just one quick point, because the audience should be aware of this. You have to take
00:17:54.400 Ben's commentary with a grain of salt, because Ben is himself an AI, you know, who was constructed
00:17:58.960 in the laboratory for facts and logic. So obviously, you know, brain is all.
00:18:05.280 Yeah, no, I think there's a structural argument we should make too, which is that 0.97
00:18:08.900 the media, I mean, if ladies decide this season, they're going to wear their hemline 1.00
00:18:13.360 an inch higher or lower, you get endless articles of panic about what this is going to do to the 1.00
00:18:19.200 moral status of the country or feminism or whatever it is. It seems to be the way the 0.99
00:18:23.940 media, panic seems to be the language that the media speaks. So when you have something that
00:18:28.880 is like this is going to be a larger change, you can kind of expect this panic disaster
00:18:34.820 narrative to filter in.
00:18:37.400 And it doesn't mean there's no truth to it, but I do think it should mean, especially
00:18:41.020 after we saw the global warming thing destroy Europe's energy business, you know, I think
00:18:47.280 we should be really, really cautious before we panic.
00:18:50.800 You know, I mean, I think I grew up where we used to hide under our desks in school
00:18:55.300 so that the nuclear bombs wouldn't fall on top of us. 0.97
00:18:58.480 I think the nonsense that this kind of thinking generates has kind of proven itself to be ridiculous.
00:19:06.320 So I just think we should do things as the dangers come up. 0.79
00:19:09.480 It just seems to me really clear.
00:19:11.640 Even the stories in which AI agents have acted, it seems, independently, that was the actual experiment they were doing.
00:19:19.680 Like I reported on the first one of those, but that was actually the experiment.
00:19:23.120 Could these guys do stuff if we didn't police them?
00:19:26.400 But there's no reason we can't police them.
00:19:27.960 That's going to be one of the new jobs that are created by AI.
00:19:30.860 Now, speaking of nonsense, and actually to the point that everyone's being a little too
00:19:36.140 doomery about everything, we're in the final days of the midterm elections.
00:19:40.000 The polls are very, very tight.
00:19:41.240 They look pretty bad for Republicans.
00:19:43.580 This could give control of the House to the Democrats, of the Senate to the Democrats.
00:19:47.320 They could win the presidency in 28, pack the Supreme Court, and destroy the country 0.95
00:19:51.460 before Anthropic ever can. 1.00
00:19:52.740 And yet, in the waning days of the campaign, the big issue we're debating is the Cheesecake Factory. 0.95
00:19:59.040 Here is Barack Obama.
00:20:03.620 So when you go through all this, the tally of promises, things have not worked out the way we might have expected.
00:20:14.220 Although, I must say, I did expect it.
00:20:16.400 And let's be honest, does anybody really think this guy in the White House right now is spending all that time thinking about these issues?
00:20:28.400 I mean, I don't know if you've noticed, but he seems very focused on home renovations.
00:20:36.400 He should be on HGTV, the guy's building a ballroom that's bigger than the White House.
00:20:47.400 It's paved over the Rose Garden, put a helicopter pad on the South Lawn, and there's gold everywhere.
00:20:55.400 What's up with the gold?
00:20:58.400 Everything, more gold.
00:21:01.400 He's got the White House looking like Saddam Hussein opened a cheesecake factory. 0.83
00:21:07.760 Just gold everywhere. 0.94
00:21:09.820 Now you see, this Philistine Donald Trump, this man, he probably drinks an over-oaked Chardonnay with his oysters on the half shell. 0.79
00:21:19.040 This man, this gauche degenerate, I don't know, the whole thing to me read very, very out of touch with stereotypical disdain,
00:21:26.840 characteristic disdain for the middle class that Barack Obama has. To help us understand it, 0.51
00:21:31.500 we have former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer. Sean, is this a strong argument
00:21:37.080 from the last leading Democrat in the country heading into the midterms?
00:21:43.140 Absolutely. I mean, look at this man's artistic qualities. Go to Chicago, look at the splendor
00:21:50.160 and beauty of what he has created there, and understand that if you're looking for somebody
00:21:55.660 to critique art and culture, he comes to mind.
00:22:01.720 I mean, look at what he has created.
00:22:03.500 It has transformed the Chicago skyline 0.99
00:22:06.760 in just an amazing way of just utter crap. 0.95
00:22:12.040 And I think that when you now realize the perspective 0.96
00:22:15.500 by which he judges art, it all makes sense.
00:22:18.800 I will say two fascinating things, though. 0.96
00:22:21.040 I did spend the night in one of Saddam's hunting lodges. One of his cheesecake factories. There 0.96
00:22:27.020 wasn't an ounce of gold. It was actually pretty barren. So I'm not really sure what that critique
00:22:32.860 was. And I'm not really sure that I've ever seen any gold in a cheesecake factory. So again,
00:22:39.040 let's just remember who the messenger is. It is kind of weird that we're debating this. Like
00:22:44.000 the fact that the ballroom is one of the big issues or the Democrats keep trying to dredge
00:22:48.800 up Epstein. Epstein, which began as a Democrat scandal after President Trump released over 3
00:22:53.860 million pages of Epstein files. It does make me wonder. I think the Republicans are going to do
00:22:58.200 horribly in the midterms. I'm quite worried about the Democrats taking over. I recognize there are
00:23:03.060 some problems in the economy and with the Iran war and everything. But Obama's campaign and all
00:23:08.260 these Democrats' campaigns, it's actually making me think that the Democrats kind of have nothing.
00:23:13.020 Like, what is the issue they're running on?
00:23:15.120 well okay so let me let me take these things backwards um i feel like this is like the three
00:23:20.980 little bears in the porch right um house i don't feel great about senate i'm actually feeling
00:23:26.640 better governor's races i feel really good so if you want to look at the election remember there's
00:23:32.040 three sort of main buckets obviously state legislatures as well but um i i judge them in
00:23:37.300 that the second thing is you're absolutely right i mean the democrats aren't running with an
00:23:41.100 alternative of plan i mean this is a midterm they're trying to make it a referendum
00:23:44.420 them and no one's asking them that. Right. I mean, that's that's the beauty of being the party out of
00:23:48.960 power is that you just get to say they suck and I'll be better. And no one's saying, well, what 0.98
00:23:53.540 what's better mean? Like, what's that policy? What's that going to do to me? And that's one of
00:23:58.180 the faults that I have with respect to the Republican messaging is we throw out taglines
00:24:04.000 where like, well, socialism isn't going to work. And for most Americans these days, they don't
00:24:08.560 think of socialism in the classic way that most of us think about it, whether it's Venezuela or
00:24:13.620 Cuba or whatever, they think about it as just, well, that means more government. And I just
00:24:19.920 think that Republicans have failed to message the alternative well, because we've let them get away
00:24:25.160 with just saying, they're bad, you should choose us. And there's nothing else. I mean, resumes
00:24:30.880 alone, if you look at some of these races where it's one, you know, who the Republican is and
00:24:35.620 what they've done and the experiences they bring versus the Democrat, this should be a no-brainer.
00:24:41.420 If anything, I really do believe that we have failed in the messaging front to talk about.
00:24:46.600 I always say it's a three-legged stool.
00:24:48.440 What did you do for the voter?
00:24:50.560 What will you do for the voter? 0.98
00:24:51.980 And why does the other side suck?
00:24:54.120 And we've done a little bit of part three, and that's about it. 0.97
00:24:58.880 You know, I look at the president in Michigan, and there are a couple of things that occur to me. 0.99
00:25:03.660 One is he's just an enormous douchebag. 0.89
00:25:05.600 I mean, every time he goes out on the stump and he starts dropping the G's in his words because he's trying to get across to the common man, he drops into this bizarre kind of southern dialect. 0.97
00:25:16.140 It's very strange.
00:25:17.940 And I'm sorry, ripping on the Cheesecake Factory, I keep kosher, but I was under the impression that ripping on the Cheesecake Factory may be just ripping on the broad taste of the American people.
00:25:25.800 I'm not aware of a lot of people who are very, very anti-Cheesecake Factory.
00:25:29.300 And also, I wasn't aware that the Cheesecake Factory is hideously decorated.
00:25:32.480 It seems completely out of touch, frankly.
00:25:35.600 He's never been to the Cheesecake Factory.
00:25:36.940 He goes and eats at the French Laundry.
00:25:38.240 This is not where Barack Obama has ever been.
00:25:40.460 But there's something else happening there too,
00:25:42.000 which is notice where he's campaigning.
00:25:43.880 He's in Michigan.
00:25:45.000 Now, the fact that that race is even close
00:25:48.080 tells me the Democrats have troubles in Michigan.
00:25:51.020 I am not firmly convinced by any stretch of the imagination
00:25:54.100 that El Saeed's going to win that race.
00:25:56.420 I think that El Saeed's a horrible candidate
00:25:58.580 for all the reasons they already know,
00:26:00.120 including the fact that he loves terrorism.
00:26:01.940 But also, there was a poll that came out
00:26:04.060 from Insider Advantage that shows
00:26:05.300 that El-Sayed is leading Rogers with black voters 47 to 33, 47 to 33. If he only wins
00:26:12.180 47% of the black vote, he's toast. And the reality of the Barack Obama has to be called 0.86
00:26:17.220 in last minute to a state where a Democrat is trying to replace a Democrat. That's an open
00:26:22.280 seat, but it was a Democratic seat. And it's an off-year election. And Michigan is pretty purpley
00:26:27.560 to begin with. And you have to call Barack Obama to Michigan, right? That says to me that that is 0.97
00:26:32.440 not a secure race. And I think that, like Sean, I'm a little skeptical that Democrats are quite
00:26:38.340 as rosy in the Senate as the media seem to want them to. I think there's a really very strong
00:26:43.740 oppo campaign that the legacy media are attempting to run to demoralize Republicans from getting out
00:26:48.500 and voting in places like Texas and Maine and Alaska and Iowa and Michigan. But when I look
00:26:54.180 at sort of the raw fundamentals of those races, if you have the same sort of pull miss that you had
00:26:59.620 in the last midterm election
00:27:00.800 and Republicans win
00:27:01.920 every single one of those states.
00:27:03.300 Yes.
00:27:03.620 And so I don't know.
00:27:06.820 I'm a lot more optimistic
00:27:07.860 about the Senate
00:27:08.560 than I think I probably
00:27:09.720 have any right to be
00:27:10.420 given the current polling data.
00:27:11.800 But I think that
00:27:12.520 it's just hard for me to believe 1.00
00:27:15.020 that Texans in the end
00:27:16.940 are going to pull the trigger
00:27:17.640 for James Tallarico. 1.00
00:27:18.840 The Michiganders really want
00:27:19.940 a pro-terrorism senator
00:27:21.860 and that the people of Maine
00:27:23.260 want a weirdo like Troy Jackson
00:27:24.700 who frankly looks like
00:27:26.140 he went to the Gacy school
00:27:29.140 of clownery. Yeah, look, here's what I'll say. First of all, I feel very bullish on Maine.
00:27:34.760 Susan Collins, the latest Trafalgar poll, and I believe Robert Cahaley and those guys do some of
00:27:38.680 the best polling in the country. And Robert has heard of half a point. If Troy Jackson's not
00:27:44.840 leading by about four going into election day, he's going to lose. I feel very bullish about that.
00:27:49.780 I feel very bullish about Iowa. I also feel very bullish about New Hampshire. And here's why,
00:27:55.780 Again, the national media doesn't want to tell you this, so I will. New Hampshire is an election day state. What I mean by that is there is no such thing as early voting in New Hampshire. They have excuse absentee like we used to have in Virginia, where you can vote absentee, but you have to have a real legitimate reason.
00:28:11.980 And so for that reason, it's a pure get out the vote kind of state. Kelly Ayotte is running about 10 points ahead. She's the incumbent governor, Republican governor, by the way, in New Hampshire. And I do think that that's going to benefit John Sunino.
00:28:27.800 So I will tell you, there's a lot of these races where I feel good.
00:28:32.660 I think there's going to be a lot it's going to be a lot closer in a lot of states.
00:28:35.300 Absolutely. But people are not looking at the basic fundamentals of who's returning a ballot, when they're returning them.
00:28:41.920 Those are things that I've spent years doing.
00:28:43.880 And what happens, to be honest with you, is you turn on a lot of these cable stations and say Republican strategist with some dude who's never strategized with anybody.
00:28:52.060 A couple other quick points on the Cheesecake Factory.
00:28:55.160 I was thinking about this as Ben was talking.
00:28:57.100 Think about where cheesecake factories are, right?
00:28:59.320 A lot of times you think about who the audience is.
00:29:01.640 So in this area, there's one in D.C., downtown D.C., and there's one in Bethesda.
00:29:05.680 Those aren't Republican places.
00:29:07.840 I would argue that if you're the cheesecake factory, you're probably really pissed that
00:29:12.040 Obama just crapped on our institution that largely cabers to left-leaning people, to
00:29:17.700 be honest with you.
00:29:18.380 I mean, I think if you did a poll, I do love a good cheesecake factory, so don't get me
00:29:23.600 wrong.
00:29:23.800 but I'm saying I actually think that they're probably pissed at this when you look at the
00:29:28.140 locations. Two, when you look at the message that Obama had at that Michigan rally, it was Trump,
00:29:35.460 Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. He didn't mention Mike Rogers. I mean, they're literally
00:29:40.340 trying to run this entire election about Donald Trump. And then third, I would correct you, Ben,
00:29:47.080 El Saeed is not a bad candidate. He's a bad person. I mean, he is literally, it's not just
00:29:52.540 a bad candidate. And I do think you're right, though, that between traditional Democratic
00:29:57.640 constituencies, Jews and blacks particular, he's got a problem in Dearborn. He's got a problem
00:30:02.400 with Jews. He's got a problem with blacks in Detroit. If Rogers, remember, there's three 0.99
00:30:07.140 options in an election. You can vote for a Republican, you can vote for a Democrat,
00:30:10.120 and you can sit it out. And I think the biggest concern that the El Saeed campaign has to worry
00:30:15.740 about is not just their folks coming over to Rogers, but a preponderance of them just not
00:30:20.520 voting and then he's really screwed you know also the illogic of the legacy media is apparent but
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00:31:35.860 Okay, Sean, you said that you should... Sorry, Drew.
00:31:38.940 Yeah, let me just finish the... You know, while Obama has had a really spotty record
00:31:43.200 as a booster. Trump hasn't. And Trump has been out there almost every day. I mean,
00:31:49.160 he's keeping an incredible schedule. And all I keep thinking is, and this is not a prediction,
00:31:54.780 but all I keep thinking is, if this is a Dewey beats Truman situation, where the sheer energy
00:32:01.120 and stamina and appearance of Donald Trump, who as Michael Knowles has said is Elvis,
00:32:06.720 which is quite right, we would not know it. We would not know. We would be just as in the dark
00:32:12.680 is doing was if this was going to be a turnaround brought about by Trump's hard work and his
00:32:18.240 personality.
00:32:18.860 Because while his popularity is low, it's not low with the people he's trying to get
00:32:24.580 out, the people he's trying to get out, and the MAGA people who won't show up if he's
00:32:27.780 not there.
00:32:28.580 And so I don't know this is going to happen, and I'm not predicting it.
00:32:31.780 But if it were about to happen, we wouldn't know it.
00:32:35.040 I think if it does, I cannot wait to read.
00:32:38.280 I mean, I know we all know, all four of us know what the headlines will say.
00:32:41.120 Like Republicans hold not as much as they could have, though, but somehow it'll be the most negative story about like these guys can make winning sound so bad in the national media.
00:32:53.620 But I guarantee you, like I said, I think the House is very precarious.
00:32:57.600 I go through this every like tonight on my show.
00:33:00.240 I do all the Senate races tomorrow night.
00:33:02.600 I do all the House races at the governors last night.
00:33:04.820 The House is definitely a little bit precarious.
00:33:07.740 No question about it.
00:33:09.380 But I will say the Senate, I do feel more and more bullish every day because I look at the data on this.
00:33:14.380 And I think if we pull this out, they're going to still say he came up short for some reason or we won Texas, but it wasn't what it should have been.
00:33:21.860 We won Iowa, but it wasn't what it should have been.
00:33:23.800 They'll find a way to make it negative.
00:33:25.140 Don't worry.
00:33:25.580 Now, you mentioned, Sean, that, OK, you're feeling the House might be a lost cause, but the Senate is looking OK.
00:33:31.480 Governor's looking great.
00:33:33.660 Our buddy Vivek, he's been in hot water.
00:33:36.120 There's been all this controversy over his TV ad.
00:33:38.580 Is Vivek going to pull it out in Ohio or is acting going to win it?
00:33:44.880 So here's what I'll tell you.
00:33:46.520 I mean, I've been doing this for 30 years, right?
00:33:49.140 And when you get to this point in a campaign, you're tracking.
00:33:52.000 So that means you don't do like a poll of a thousand, but every night you're running
00:33:55.820 about a 200 sample and you're kind of seeing what's moving the needle in the final day
00:33:59.420 so you can switch in and out your ads.
00:34:02.260 What was fascinating is despite the national media and everybody being outraged and every
00:34:07.040 Republican whining and wetting their pants and saying, he's got to take this ad down and it's
00:34:11.280 disgusting. They doubled down on the ad and they cut it to a 30 second ad and went further. 0.55
00:34:16.180 What that tells me is that their tracking shows that whatever demographic they're looking to move
00:34:20.380 is working. So I don't know that he pulls this thing out, but for everybody who said it was a
00:34:25.220 horrible ad, you don't with eight days to go, seven days to go now, double down on something
00:34:30.480 that's not working just to spite the national media, right? So I do believe that this thing
00:34:36.040 may be close. Look, he's down. His RCP average is somewhere just shy of 45 right now, that being
00:34:43.200 Vivek. So he is down a little. I do think Ohio comes home though. And that's what, when you look
00:34:49.940 at the model, it's always ends this way. And the early vote starts with the Dems. Bernie Moreno
00:34:55.540 had the same thing happen to him in the last cycle. JD got over the finish line with 52.5.
00:35:00.640 Like it's, it just, that's how Ohio goes. The Dems get their early vote out. They bank their
00:35:05.720 high propensity voters and then republicans are game day voters and they show up if they can make
00:35:10.640 that turnout operation work the way it should i i think he does this may be close like a 51 49 race
00:35:18.060 but i think vivek can pull this out i certainly hope you're right gentlemen do you agree
00:35:22.880 i mean i think that yeah i mean i listen i think that vivek has been running you know a very very
00:35:31.300 tight race this entire time. Ohio's been surprisingly tight, despite the fact that Mike
00:35:36.940 DeWine walked away with it, because the truth is that Ohio is it is bright red for certain types
00:35:42.720 of Republicans, but it's not kind of bright red across the board in the way that, say, Tennessee
00:35:45.740 is bright red across the board. So it's been kind of fascinating to watch that race. My big comment
00:35:50.940 that got a lot of flack about the Vivek ad is that, well, I don't like the ad. I think that,
00:35:56.080 you know, obviously, Amy Acton's personal childhood story is pretty, pretty rough. And all the
00:36:00.540 questions about the mom seem to be well justified. And the sort of crocodile tears that many of the
00:36:06.520 people in the media are shutting about this ad are totally, they're just disproportionate to
00:36:11.820 the sort of reaction they would have to any other political ad. I mean, President Trump is right
00:36:15.600 that if somebody had cut this ad featuring one of his siblings, which, you know, Mary Trump literally
00:36:19.720 campaigned against him, or if there had been a gigantic, say, wave of Kennedys coming out against
00:36:24.620 RFK and making similar accusations, even with a similar childhood story, I think the media would
00:36:29.740 have basically done nothing about it and and actually you saw this happen the same week the
00:36:34.200 same week that this the vague ad came out that the entire media was going insane over there was this
00:36:39.060 attempted hit on lindsey graham who is dead who's a dead person using male hookers from the young
00:36:45.420 turks and they put this out and pretty much the entire democratic establishment either just kept
00:36:49.600 silent and said nothing about it or kind of chortled about it or champion the thing and it
00:36:54.780 wasn't even an attack on lindsey who is dead it was an attack on lindsey graham's sister it was
00:36:59.560 an attack on darlene who's running for senate in south carolina and and again the same people who
00:37:04.080 were just appalled and aghast at the vague ad for its deep and abiding immorality had nothing to say
00:37:09.160 about this and so i think two things can be true once as always i don't like the vague ad i think
00:37:12.700 that it's i think that i wish that he had run an ad about her dishonesty without using her mom um
00:37:17.400 but at the same time like that on the the sort of second order outrage which became the narrative
00:37:22.900 right it was really about how outrageous the no one has ever done it oh it's so terrible i'm not
00:37:27.120 going to take that from the same people who are sitting along and cheering at smears thrown against
00:37:32.540 the corpse of Lindsey Graham months after he was capable of answering them because he's dead,
00:37:37.260 designed to sink his sister in a South Carolina race. I mean, that's the part that's absurd to me.
00:37:41.580 My conspiracy theory that I'm entertaining now after watching the Young Turks doc, 0.65
00:37:46.660 I think there's a chance that Lindsey Graham might not have been a homosexual. And I know 0.73
00:37:51.620 that's shocking and it's going to offend everyone on both sides of the aisle. I don't, the guy was
00:37:55.620 in public life forever. I get he was unmarried. He had, you know, he was, had some dandy-ish
00:38:00.420 propensities, but I don't know. I think that's the best they got is a handful of male hookers 1.00
00:38:05.360 after the guy was dead. First of all, you know what a hooker is, right? They do anything for 0.98
00:38:09.440 money. So I actually was not persuaded by that. I don't think it, it didn't knock Darlene Graham
00:38:14.380 at all. I don't think it even really laid much of a glove on Lindsey Graham. Most people thought
00:38:18.700 he was gay anyway, and they didn't really care all that much. I don't know. I'm with you, Ben.
00:38:23.120 And I just feel like in the Ohio race, yeah, okay, you can hate the ad, you can like the ad, you can think it was justified, you can think whatever.
00:38:29.220 You know, the race is about government, right?
00:38:31.600 It's about like the common good and policies and the people of Ohio.
00:38:36.000 And I just think it's so obvious.
00:38:38.000 You can either elect the COVID czar who does have a massively dysfunctional personal life and lies a lot and refuses to debate.
00:38:46.240 And you can, okay, you can vote for her even if she had bad things and sad experiences in her life and all sorts of trauma.
00:38:51.780 You can either vote for her or you can vote for the guy who is normal, wants to protect your civil liberties, wants to let you keep your property, wants to defend the American nation.
00:39:01.920 I don't know. This is not a hard choice for me.
00:39:04.220 I actually think it's even deeper than that.
00:39:06.780 But I will say I take it further than this whole discussion, which is nobody on the left seems to care about the names they throw around about Trump and his supporters. 0.65
00:39:15.240 So, you know, racist, monogynist, everyone's Hitler, Nazi, etc.
00:39:20.300 And yet no one seems to think that's beyond the pale. 0.99
00:39:23.220 But Vivek runs an ad that says she's a liar.
00:39:25.420 And oh, my gosh, everybody needs to denounce this.
00:39:28.240 That's number one.
00:39:29.100 Number two, to your point, like the number one issue in all of these races is the economy.
00:39:34.440 And you're running to be the chief executive of Ohio.
00:39:36.940 Vivek Ramaswamy's resume and work experience blows her away.
00:39:41.520 So what I would rather have seen him done is to say, listen, I know how to create jobs.
00:39:46.720 I know how to run businesses effectively and profitably.
00:39:49.540 I can bring those skills. She is a complete nut job. And this is what she'll do to Ohio. 1.00
00:39:54.660 I think that's a much more compelling ad at the end. So again, whether you like the ad or not,
00:40:00.720 I just go down to in the last seven days, what's actually going to move the needle.
00:40:06.240 And I got to believe that issue after issue, poll after poll, data point after data point that I see
00:40:11.160 says that right now people are like, who is going to make my life better and more affordable?
00:40:16.100 Now, Sean, before I let you go, we'll move on from 26 to 28. You just recently sat down with
00:40:22.460 our friend, the Vice President of the United States, a man I greatly admire and who clearly
00:40:27.380 is eyeing the White House, even though he did say publicly that he would defer any speculation on
00:40:33.800 whether or not he will run until after the midterms. And I think he's sincere about that
00:40:38.120 because if the Democrats get totally blown out of the water and then it's just a subpoena fest for
00:40:42.840 the next two years. JD is a very young man. He could wait a cycle or two cycles and actually
00:40:47.860 it might make sense for him to wait. Nevertheless, he's the heir apparent right now.
00:40:52.520 What would you take away from the interview? How do you think things are looking for 28?
00:40:57.440 Look, it's his to give up. And what I mean by that is he's chair of the finance committee at
00:41:02.540 the RNC. So he's built up these unbelievable donor connections and networks that would be
00:41:07.480 just unparalleled to any other candidate. He's got at least the infrastructure, the campaign
00:41:13.720 of Donald Trump. Again, it's like starting on the 50-yard line against everybody else. It's just
00:41:20.600 not fair. So if he runs, it's his to have. I actually thought the more intriguing question
00:41:25.120 that I asked him was, if given the choice between Donald Trump endorsing you, which would be the
00:41:29.400 equivalent of a coronation, or you winning a primary where everyone got to run against you,
00:41:34.460 which would you choose? And I said to him, just be hypothetical about this. Don't make it about
00:41:38.460 J.D. Vance. What's the better thing for the party? And he said, well, you know, I don't know.
00:41:43.340 And I said, well, look, I think of it as a coronation the way it did with Harris.
00:41:47.560 I don't know that that's you need to have the grassroots of the people feel like you earned
00:41:52.060 it, that you're their choice. If Donald Trump says you're the guy, it's got you. You become
00:41:57.020 the guy. And then I don't think it helps you or any nominee for that matter. And I think that,
00:42:02.120 frankly, Donald Trump would like to see a little bit of Apprentice style primary season, someone
00:42:07.060 earning that. I will be honest with you, Michael, I saw one of Ben's recent videos. I thought you
00:42:12.320 were going to bring up the big Dancing with the Stars controversy. And that's why I was brought
00:42:15.760 on because Ben was asked about this in a video the other day. He really wasn't sure. And I thought,
00:42:20.680 okay, I'm here to shed some light on the massive controversy that has surrounded Dancing with the
00:42:25.500 Stars the last couple of weeks. But tonight is going to be the return of Valtromosky to the
00:42:30.920 dance floor i know that this is something you guys will bring up mr clavin's gonna weigh in
00:42:35.700 on this i'm sure but uh i'm just telling you this is uh something that i wish the daily wire would
00:42:41.560 have spent a little bit more time on my producers are literally cheering for you mentioning this in
00:42:45.660 the other room i'm sure they are well i watched the video ben driving me insane yeah look one of
00:42:52.040 the pizza look as a former quarter finalist i believe that i could have added a lot of perspective
00:42:56.900 and insight into what a lift is in ballroom dancing and whether or not that qualified.
00:43:02.740 So feel free to text me next time and just say, hey, I need to figure this out.
00:43:07.580 Yeah, Sean, but I guess this is probably more important than 26 or 28.
00:43:11.180 Do you have any predictions on how many pas de bourree we'll see in this season of Dancing
00:43:16.140 with the Stars or how many, I don't know, dips or splits?
00:43:21.340 Well, the dips are going to happen all the time, Michael, as you may know.
00:43:24.140 But when we get to the freestyle, which is towards the end, the semifinals and finals, that's when dancers really can show their true self, which is why I think I was eliminated well before that.
00:43:36.140 Everyone knew that I had no rhythm or any creative talents.
00:43:40.560 Yeah, that's unfortunate. 0.89
00:43:42.580 I, like Steve Martin, was born a poor black child.
00:43:45.600 So I'd like the opportunity at some point to show off my rhythm.
00:43:48.680 I'll put a word in for you.
00:43:49.720 No one's invited me.
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00:44:38.600 Sean, can we keep you around just for a little bit of the Kalshi time game?
00:44:41.960 uh it's gonna if you look at the rider uh that's just as long as you're willing to pay that fee
00:44:47.660 yeah no i will send it please send a bill to benjamin shapiro that would just send the invoice
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00:45:50.540 borrow better. Okay, this is a lightning round of Kalshi time. 0.63
00:45:56.740 sean would you mind in that writer can we make you a producer on this show too
00:46:04.200 no this is a very relevant question who's going to be his next press secretary anna kelly you 0.56
00:46:08.820 want me to do this am i running the whole damn thing please run it run it this is the big
00:46:13.700 question right now is who's next trump's next press secretary we had anna kelly at 20 scott 0.53
00:46:19.060 Jennings coming in the rear at eight, Daniel Alvarez at five, Nicki Minaj at four. Uh, wow,
00:46:26.500 this, that, that's, uh, I would have just out of, I'm still a little upset. I don't, obviously
00:46:31.940 everyone knows I'm very happy doing one, but I'd like to come in at like two or 3% just for old
00:46:36.540 time's sake. Of these picks, I don't think it's going to be Scott. Scott's very talented. He does
00:46:44.220 a great job defending the president. People keep bringing him up as he's going to be the shoe-in.
00:46:47.720 i don't see it i think it's going to be a girl i think it's going to be like a nice pleasant
00:46:52.780 articulate girl uh so yeah i'm kind of on the anna kelly bet gentlemen i mean i think first of all
00:47:00.100 we have to reserve we have to make sure michael's only gonna be press secretary for jd i mean we
00:47:04.220 know this already um but i want secretary of state oh god um but then i can run cuba and i'll
00:47:11.380 make more cigars sorry go on don't don't don't force me out of the jd camp this quickly no
00:47:15.560 You as Secretary of State, I'll give you like five other positions in the administration.
00:47:20.360 Secretary of State is not the one.
00:47:21.760 Ambassador to the Vatican is definitely there.
00:47:23.600 That sounds great.
00:47:24.160 But as far as, yeah, I mean, listen, Scott has a couple of things that are not going
00:47:29.200 for him.
00:47:30.020 One, he's male.
00:47:31.160 And two, he's not blonde.
00:47:33.120 And so those two things, I think, cut heavily against Scott, who would definitely be the
00:47:36.620 best of these people. 0.84
00:47:37.740 So, yeah, I would be saying, if there's a Kalshi market, no on Scott Jennings. 1.00
00:47:42.420 I would probably say no on Scott Jennings.
00:47:43.940 I don't know where you're at on this, Drew.
00:47:45.560 Well, I want you to know that I did pitch Michael Knowles to my sources within the administration who mostly clean toilets and empty ashes, but still you were roundly rejected as being just a little bit too fascist.
00:48:01.700 I feared I wasn't fascist enough. All right. Now I've got to rethink my old strategy.
00:48:07.140 but, uh, Scott Jennings, I think is, is having too much fun doing what he's doing.
00:48:12.000 It's, it's a tough job. I mean, you know, Sean used to be six foot four and, uh, you know,
00:48:17.200 it just takes you, it takes it out of you, you know? So I think, I think that Scott would be
00:48:20.980 a fool to do it. I think Anna Kelly too, that's gotta be the obvious one. 0.99
00:48:26.760 Yeah. I would say Anna Kelly is starting to become, look, I don't think they're in any hurry.
00:48:30.940 I'll say that. I think Steven Chung's who's the constructor has been kind of running the entire
00:48:35.760 shop. They've got a strong bench of deputies and assistant press secretaries. I got to tell you,
00:48:43.220 I wouldn't be surprised to see somebody outside the box on this. And what I mean by that is
00:48:48.560 there's somebody who has played a significant role on television before, something like that,
00:48:55.060 a Tony Snow type. Obviously, odds are that they end up having been from Fox News. The one thing
00:49:01.000 I'll say just on a personal level is everybody focuses on the briefing. Here's what it's going
00:49:05.820 to take. That's 20% of the job, right? There is 80% of that job that is coordination, being in key
00:49:11.980 meetings about policy rollouts and policy impacts, sitting down with agencies and department heads
00:49:17.980 about specific issues that are dealing with them, coordination, managing the staff. And I think
00:49:24.320 sometimes we see just the focus on, okay, what is it going to take to go out and do the briefing?
00:49:29.100 And if you don't understand the stakeholders, Congress, obviously the White House Press Corps, outside stakeholders, the other departments and agencies, I think it's going to be hard to succeed.
00:49:39.060 If you think about, you know, even the first term, it was largely people who had an understanding of those different aspects of the job.
00:49:46.800 And I would hope that they learn from the last.
00:49:50.080 I think Katie is a very nice person.
00:49:51.800 But if you think about what that job entails, it's not just about going on television or giving a briefing.
00:49:59.100 That's a good point. You know, you are running, I mean, obviously there's communications director
00:50:04.240 of the White House, but you are the face of, and you are largely running, communications for the
00:50:09.300 administration. So most of that job is not glamorous. Frankly, the presidential, the press
00:50:15.160 briefing every day is not all that glamorous either, but sometimes it can be. The rest of it,
00:50:19.660 though, is working the press, working the agencies, working Capitol Hill. So yeah, I agree. And the
00:50:26.820 idea, I did think about the Tony Snow precedent because Tony Snow was a great press secretary
00:50:31.140 and there is something to the skill of being able to communicate if you've worked on campaigns,
00:50:35.560 if you've worked on TV or podcasts or whatever. That's very important. But there is also something
00:50:40.080 to the Farm League and kind of growing it up from within the administration, having some of these
00:50:44.440 deputies. On top of that, by the way, we're heading into the midterms. They're in no rush to name
00:50:48.380 somebody. And even after that, this administration, whether you love it or hate it, is extraordinarily
00:50:53.860 transparent. Trump is picking up the phone for reporters all the time. He's giving these gaggles
00:51:00.020 all the time. And you've got really all sorts of cabinet secretaries doing that. So there's no rush 0.99
00:51:05.220 to have a point person who is the official mouthpiece for the administration in a world
00:51:09.620 in which you've got Donald Trump who is constantly directly communicating to the American people.
00:51:15.360 Yeah. Well, the key thing that you noted, when you look at Tony, and frankly, this is the piece
00:51:20.640 advice that every press secretary gave me when I took the job was have a strong deputy. So Dana
00:51:25.500 Perino was Tony's deputy. She'd worked in the White House. She'd worked on Capitol Hill. She
00:51:30.240 knew her way around the block because when you're a press secretary, your time is getting pulled in 0.96
00:51:34.120 eight different directions. You need a deputy that can coordinate all of the various different 0.95
00:51:39.060 elements and issues that are happening below to make sure that whether it's a department that's
00:51:44.440 doing something, whether it's a media outlet that's looking for a quote or that they're looking
00:51:49.120 for an interview with the president. So having a strong bench, to your point, Michael, is critical
00:51:53.960 when it looks to this. And that's one of the things that this White House needs to build up
00:51:57.740 is you've seen them now push out Anna Kelly, Benny Ray Harmony, all these other folks,
00:52:03.480 Olivia Wales. They're getting out there and they're getting their reps. And that's the key
00:52:07.540 is it's when you've done this for a living, you suddenly get thrust into the major leagues when
00:52:12.640 you go to the White House. And I think what's been really smart in the last couple of months
00:52:16.940 is that they're taking all these assistant prescriptories and the deputies,
00:52:20.320 getting them out there and getting them some time in front of the press,
00:52:24.000 in front of the camera, so that they are building that bench.
00:52:26.920 Okay, Will Sam Alito announces retirement, Calciades, before this January 1st, 21%,
00:52:33.760 before April 1st, 22%, before July 1st, 56%, before October 1st, 2027, 50%.
00:52:43.000 Okay, it goes down after July.
00:52:45.180 I don't think Sam Alito is retiring.
00:52:48.920 Am I crazy about that?
00:52:50.820 I think that it's entirely dependent on whether the Republicans maintain the Senate.
00:52:55.200 So if the Republicans do not maintain the Senate, then he is absolutely not retiring.
00:52:59.820 And you should take the under on all of those.
00:53:02.000 If the Republicans retain the Senate, I think that he probably will retire before July 1st,
00:53:05.960 because that would give him enough time for them to come up with a replacement,
00:53:09.420 go through the hearings.
00:53:10.120 It'll be just knocked down, drag out brutal.
00:53:12.680 So this is it's sort of a weird proxy question for who's going to control the Senate after after November.
00:53:18.640 I think the Republicans are going to control the Senate.
00:53:20.660 So I would probably be on the before July 20, July 1st, 20, 27 bandwagon.
00:53:24.560 But this is a binary question. If they if they control the Senate before July 1, I think is right.
00:53:29.160 If they don't control the Senate, then never.
00:53:31.580 I think that for the next 50 years, Sam Alito's on the bench.
00:53:35.800 I don't know. I agree with most of your assessment.
00:53:38.460 I do wonder if if the Republicans were to lose the Senate, Alito is very, very cognizant of his legacy.
00:53:46.920 And the question that you have to ask yourself is, OK, it would be two years to get the Senate back.
00:53:50.920 And then you're gambling that Republicans keep the White House so that you would get a nominee that would be in your liking.
00:53:58.600 I have a decent feeling that if Republicans were to lose the Senate.
00:54:02.600 And again, I don't think that's going to happen. I would take the before before, I guess, the end of the year, because I think Alito says I need to make sure somebody is nominated in the lame duck section that I feel confident will replace me.
00:54:16.660 Oh, the Democrats will stop that. The Democrats will just do McConnell. No way. The Democrats will stop that.
00:54:22.220 I don't think that John Thune has the I know John Thune is a McConnell, you know, protege, but I'm not sure John Thune has the gas to do what Mitch McConnell would do in that situation.
00:54:34.320 The guy strikes me as a potted plant. He hasn't been able to move on anything.
00:54:38.240 I just don't know if he could actually get a new nominee over the over.
00:54:43.780 No, I think he would. I mean, I think that's that's that's a little unfair to Thune. I mean, in the sense that one of the big wins of the Trump administration has been the continued verification of just judges across the federal judiciary like that.
00:54:55.120 That is a thing that has continued to pace across the first year and a half of the two years of the Trump administration, part two.
00:55:00.640 So the real question, and I think this is the one for Sean, is let's say that that Alito were to step down in twenty seven.
00:55:06.560 I think the Democrats would hold that seat open all the way until twenty twenty nine.
00:55:09.440 I think that they have given me a comment with Merrick Garland.
00:55:13.780 Right. So so here that this is why I believe the following. If Republicans maintain the majority, he stays. He feels good. He can make his at least got two years and will reflect on whatever he wants.
00:55:26.160 If he doesn't feel confident, if Republicans were to lose and he knows I can't, there won't
00:55:31.220 be a replacement while I can guarantee a Republican president would nominate somebody, I think
00:55:35.320 there's going to be a lot of pressure to get him done.
00:55:37.120 And I don't think that it doesn't matter.
00:55:38.640 In my opinion, Thune's going to feel more pressure than anything to get somebody over
00:55:42.180 the finish line before the lame duck session in January, 2027.
00:55:46.080 So Alito would be pressured, would make a decision.
00:55:49.080 They'd nominate somebody and say, we got to jam this guy through, kind of like Amy Coney
00:55:53.060 Barrett.
00:55:53.440 So I believe that's how it works.
00:55:55.480 If they keep the majority, he's going to just put more, you know, pitchers up in the office in his chambers.
00:56:00.880 So, Sean, yeah, in other words, you're saying it's not that, you know, OK, he'll retire into the Democrat led Senate.
00:56:06.660 You're saying, no, no, no. Day after the election, Sam Alito's out.
00:56:09.840 They're moving. You know, this thing's wrapped up by Christmas.
00:56:12.400 That's an interesting prediction.
00:56:13.880 This this might be the first time in the history of this company that I am on the pessimistic side of a question.
00:56:20.260 And Ben Shapiro is on the optimistic side.
00:56:23.360 I don't even want to say it.
00:56:26.460 I don't even want to put it out there into the ether.
00:56:29.640 I'm not betting on Republicans holding the Senate.
00:56:32.260 I guess I'm the only one on this show right now who,
00:56:34.500 I guess I feel the worst about our chances in the Senate.
00:56:38.420 Yeah, I mean, again, I see why you feel that way.
00:56:41.740 The thing that I just keep coming back to is
00:56:43.880 the president is running like a 30% approval rating,
00:56:46.820 but every one of these Senate races is competitive.
00:56:48.840 Yeah.
00:56:49.560 And so in a normal environment,
00:56:51.280 you would imagine that this would not even be a close run thing and we'd just be getting clocked
00:56:56.100 in every one of these states uh and so because we're not i mean like i don't understand how you
00:57:01.100 can have basically an even race in minnesota but also an even race in texas this clay travis's
00:57:05.900 point and that's that that's the thing that that is getting me like how is it that michelle
00:57:09.600 tafoya is running basically neck and neck in minnesota and somehow james tallarico is also
00:57:15.860 running neck and neck in texas are these are these part i guess maybe these states are not part of
00:57:19.340 the same country anymore in a certain sense. But it's definitely an oddity of the polling.
00:57:24.440 And so I think that it will break one way or another, which is a truism. But I'm a little
00:57:29.820 hard-pressed to see how Republicans blow all of these races all at once. I don't think they'll
00:57:37.780 lose Iowa. I don't think they're going to lose Alaska. I don't think they're going to lose Maine.
00:57:41.600 So I think that really, I guess it comes down to Texas, I suppose. And one of the things that
00:57:45.660 that apparently, according to the Cal sheet markets,
00:57:49.080 they're sort of in-state Cal sheet markets,
00:57:51.260 and then there's like the broader Cal sheet markets.
00:57:53.560 And one of the things that I was talking to
00:57:55.620 one of the founders of Cal sheet yesterday,
00:57:57.100 and one of the things he was saying to me
00:57:58.500 is that the data that they have shows
00:57:59.920 that the Cal sheet market in Texas itself,
00:58:02.140 like for people who are living in Texas,
00:58:03.880 they believe Paxton's gonna win.
00:58:05.400 It's a lot of California and New York money
00:58:06.740 saying that Paxton's gonna lose in Texas.
00:58:09.020 That makes, look, I just like optimistic Ben.
00:58:11.120 I'll take it, whatever, that's, you know,
00:58:12.540 that's worth the price of admission right there. 0.88
00:58:14.260 There's one last, before I let you all go, there's one last Kalshi question.
00:58:18.380 The best picture winner this year.
00:58:22.080 And these actually, I was going to make a joke about how no one saw any of these movies,
00:58:24.600 but some people actually did see these movies.
00:58:26.320 The Odyssey is right now at 52%.
00:58:28.440 You Can See Everything at 23%.
00:58:31.080 The Black Ball at 14%.
00:58:32.540 Dune Part 3 at 8%.
00:58:34.260 I only saw one of those movies, but I do want to see the Elizabeth Holmes Psycho movie.
00:58:39.420 The Odyssey, it was like fine.
00:58:42.500 I know there was wide disagreement over the Odyssey.
00:58:46.080 Ben said it was the greatest film ever made.
00:58:48.040 Matt said that it was a sin to go watch it.
00:58:50.540 I know there was some of a spread.
00:58:53.000 I thought it was pretty good or whatever.
00:58:54.980 Is it going to be the Odyssey?
00:58:58.080 Yes.
00:58:58.720 It has to be.
00:58:59.180 I think it will be the Odyssey.
00:59:00.280 I think it will be the Odyssey.
00:59:01.040 By the way, what is the Black Ball?
00:59:02.300 I've never even heard of this.
00:59:04.480 I've never heard of the Black Ball.
00:59:05.060 I've heard of three of those movies.
00:59:06.420 Yeah, I don't even know what that is.
00:59:07.480 So that must be one of the Oscar baits.
00:59:09.480 I've got to be honest with you.
00:59:10.200 I've heard of the Odyssey.
00:59:11.180 I haven't seen any of the four.
00:59:13.040 I've heard of the Odyssey.
00:59:14.240 I didn't even know.
00:59:14.800 If you had told me the other three were like new cars coming out, I'd believe you.
00:59:19.020 I've never, I didn't even know that those were movies.
00:59:21.320 Is it going to be a sleeper though for You Can See Everything?
00:59:23.680 That's the movie about Elizabeth Holmes and she invites this kind of interesting.
00:59:27.420 Oh, that's the Theranos one.
00:59:27.920 It's that one.
00:59:28.620 Yeah, the Theranos movie.
00:59:30.220 I could see that as a sleeper running away with it.
00:59:32.960 Probably not, but I could sort of see it.
00:59:34.960 And also, will Ellen Page get best actor?
00:59:38.300 Oh my goodness.
00:59:39.420 Can I just be straight with you guys?
00:59:41.180 I think I've now spent more time talking about the Oscars than I have in 10 years.
00:59:46.240 I mean, like, I really, there's a reason I don't see these movies.
00:59:50.480 I just don't really care.
00:59:51.940 It's not where I spend, want to spend my time.
00:59:54.740 And I really don't care what Hollywood thinks about anything. 1.00
00:59:58.320 Also, where in the Kalshi market is Run, Hide, Fight Infidels? 0.97
01:00:01.500 Is that, I don't understand why that's not, it would be, because I know there's also similar themes in there. 0.89
01:00:07.720 In the Odyssey, you can see a transgender woman winning the Trojan War.
01:00:14.800 And in Run, Hide, Fight, Infidels, you can see a jihadi kick a homosexual off of a rooftop. 0.90
01:00:19.720 So there are similar, kind of similar theme, leitmotif.
01:00:23.580 But anyway, it's not coming up in the prediction markets.
01:00:25.760 Maybe that's a real sleeper.
01:00:26.980 I agree.
01:00:27.840 I think it's probably the Odyssey.
01:00:31.220 Sad.
01:00:31.740 It's weak.
01:00:32.060 I'm with you, Sean.
01:00:32.720 I haven't paid attention to these movies in years. 0.99
01:00:34.700 Okay, is there any other pressing issue beyond Dancing with the Stars, looks-maxing, and stupid Hollywood movies? 0.99
01:00:43.040 Any other really pressing issue for us? 0.99
01:00:45.300 Yes.
01:00:45.860 What?
01:00:46.260 I have a pressing issue.
01:00:47.880 Today is the publication of my book, Find Me Nowhere, and it was presidentially approved.
01:00:53.940 Donald Trump himself said you should go out and buy it.
01:00:56.640 That has the force of an executive order.
01:00:58.420 So if you don't go out and buy it, you are violating the law.
01:01:01.420 I will be at one of the great, great crime stores, crime bookstores in the country tomorrow at seven
01:01:08.760 o'clock, Poison Pen, right outside of Phoenix in Scottsdale. It is a great store. And I would love
01:01:14.860 to see these events. I never used to do them, but they become such terrific events. I talk to people
01:01:20.320 and they tell me, you know, they tell me what's on their mind. It's really been a joy. So come on
01:01:24.920 out and buy a copy of Find Me Nowhere at Poison Pen in Scottsdale. And if you're not going to be
01:01:29.240 there. Buy it on Amazon, I promise, or the Daily Wire shop. I promise you will like it.
01:01:34.760 Also, Drew, I just want to congratulate you. After having written something like 750 books
01:01:40.420 over the years, I'm glad you could join the ranks of us authors who have received the President
01:01:46.340 Trump endorsement for our magna opi. Now, in your case, you had to go through the trouble of putting
01:01:55.080 words in your book. Obviously, I did not in my case, but I'm just glad we are two of President
01:02:00.320 Trump's favorite authors. I know. We are the man. No, forget about Sean. No, forget. Hold on.
01:02:05.920 Forget about Sean for a second. Hold on. And, you know, guys like Ben and Matt Walsh are just going
01:02:11.800 to have to, you know, soothe themselves with drugs and alcohol. No, I know. Here. Hey, who am I?
01:02:16.140 Who am I? Ready? Who am I? I'm Ben writing all those words for nothing. Not even every one tweet.
01:02:23.760 I'm just going to put it out there, Drew.
01:02:26.220 The chances that President Trump read Michael's book are 97,000 times better
01:02:30.980 than the chances that he actually read your entire book.
01:02:33.860 No, he was studying brothers Karamazov to get at the soul of the Russian people
01:02:37.980 and tore himself away. 0.98
01:02:41.340 I loved seeing it, though.
01:02:42.820 That was such a great post.
01:02:44.480 It was great.
01:02:44.960 It was absolutely great.
01:02:46.320 It was cool.
01:02:47.200 And then I remember, you know, it was so funny, too,
01:02:49.080 because I remember when it happened for my joke book,
01:02:51.320 it was because I was just on TV.
01:02:53.140 I was, and I mentioned that Trump had done something good in foreign policy and he was
01:02:57.040 just watching it, you know, and that was how it happened. And then I wondered for years where I
01:03:00.060 said, was this some plan at the White House? Were there publicists involved asking some under
01:03:05.720 department secretary, whatever? And like, no, I think he was probably just watching you on TV
01:03:10.040 and he liked what you had to say. I hope at least, at least then he got some of my words.
01:03:17.200 That's great. Love it. Okay. So go out. If you're, if you're by the bookstore, go do it,
01:03:21.160 go to the event. If not, just go buy the book, Find Me Nowhere by the presidentially mandated
01:03:28.260 author, Andrew Clavin, or you will be prosecuted and deported. Sean, excellent to see you. Is there
01:03:35.660 anything we can plug for you other than your show? Well, that's big. I mean, you always go
01:03:40.260 to SeanSpicer.com for the newsletter, but yeah, big show tonight. We'll do the Senate and then
01:03:46.020 tomorrow the House. So just go to YouTube, Sean Spicer, watch it. And like I said, we literally
01:03:50.420 go through every race. So this isn't like, you know, part of it, what I love is taking the time
01:03:55.900 and go, okay, where is this race? What's the early vote? What's this? So if you're really
01:03:59.480 interested in the midterms, check it out tonight at six o'clock. It streams on YouTube.
01:04:03.320 All right, go get it. Because, you know, I find in political commentary, the one thing that's
01:04:06.640 usually lacking is any talk about actual elections and races. It's just about a bunch of nonsense.
01:04:11.740 Data, things like that.
01:04:12.540 Yeah. So anyway, if you want to know like the facts of what's actually happening,
01:04:15.340 Go check out Sean's show tonight.
01:04:17.620 Wonderful to see all of you gentlemen.
01:04:19.800 See you in the gulag when the Democrats win the whole government.
01:04:22.400 See ya.
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