The Michael Knowles Show - September 16, 2026


Friendly Fire: Run Hide Fight: Infidels, Useful Idiots, and the Jihadi Coup

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00:00:30.000 1,315 years after the Battle of Kovadonga, when the Muslims invaded Iberia and attempted to conquer all of Europe, 0.96
00:00:41.420 we are releasing Run, Hide, Fight, Infidels. This is Friendly Fire. 1.00
00:00:44.680 Friends like these, who needs enemies? Friends like these, who needs enemies?
00:00:52.060 I was hoping we'd get for the intro for this episode one of those calls to prayer from the minarets.
00:00:58.100 like, oh. Anyway, I hope, I hope, dear audience, we've roped you in with this riveting, urgent
00:01:06.960 covadonga discourse. But we're not just talking about ancient history. No, no. We're talking
00:01:12.260 about Daily Wire's new movie. If you have not subscribed, shame on you. Shame on you. What are
00:01:17.980 you thinking? You go to dailywire.com slash subscribe so that you can see the movie that
00:01:23.640 Variety is writing about
00:01:25.720 You can see, we'll get to the Variety review
00:01:27.800 You'll see the movie that Slate
00:01:30.100 Is calling Deranged
00:01:31.680 And they don't know the half of it
00:01:33.280 If you haven't seen the trailer, here it is
00:01:35.260 Your country
00:01:37.880 Is beneath contempt
00:01:39.120 We who love
00:01:42.040 And serve Allah
00:01:43.320 Fought back against the Americans 1.00
00:01:45.780 And the Zionists from the scourge 1.00
00:01:48.000 Of secularism 0.99
00:01:49.100 And the lands of unbelief
00:01:50.920 Anyone going to listen to Captain Saunders tomorrow?
00:01:59.160 The retired Delta IV soldier with a new book out. 0.75
00:02:02.780 He's the polar opposite of those brain-dead protesters.
00:02:05.840 Given the current climate, should Clay Saunders even be allowed on campus?
00:02:09.060 Mr. Saunders is a close personal friend of Chancellor Friedman.
00:02:11.820 This is a decision I cannot find. 1.00
00:02:14.140 There are three ways Islam will conquer the West. 1.00
00:02:17.180 Through immigration, through the wombs of our women, and by using our nation's freedoms 1.00
00:02:28.180 against us. 1.00
00:02:29.180 Are you paying attention?
00:02:33.180 Listen carefully.
00:02:45.180 the great Satan America will fall. 1.00
00:02:53.620 You are infidels. 1.00
00:02:55.320 The bodies of women are not pure 1.00
00:02:57.220 and the men's souls are unclean. 1.00
00:03:00.480 What makes them so dangerous?
00:03:03.020 Their goals are not in this life,
00:03:06.780 but the next.
00:03:10.860 Anyone?
00:03:11.940 I got friends here, I can't just leave.
00:03:13.180 Listen to me!
00:03:14.140 in the law we cannot run or hide from what is coming we have to fight i will be rewarded
00:03:22.300 10 000 times in the next life when you die you're nothing only one way to find out
00:03:30.780 that's the american way
00:03:42.140 Now, I know that was pretty subtle. So for those of you who didn't get the subtext of what was
00:03:48.400 going on, a bunch of Muslims take over school with the help of the leftist students. Variety 0.96
00:03:54.160 is calling this movie Islamophobic. Matt, would you like to respond and correct the record?
00:04:01.720 Great to be with you guys, by the way. And it's always quite burdensome to be with all of you.
00:04:08.880 That's not the word I wanted. I'm sorry. Look, I think it's very Islamophobic, and I think we
00:04:16.140 can embrace that. If Islamophobia, if that's even a word that means anything, then sure, 1.00
00:04:21.520 let's embrace that. I think that the promise of The Daily Wire has always been, or the pitch has 1.00
00:04:29.280 always been, well, we're going to make movies that you can't get anywhere else. We're going to make
00:04:34.460 the movies that no one else will make. We'll make the movie that Netflix won't make, Amazon won't
00:04:38.740 make. And one thing you could certainly say about this movie, having seen it myself, of course,
00:04:44.960 is that it definitely fulfills that promise. This is certainly one, you're not going to find this
00:04:51.240 on Netflix, so you literally can't go anywhere else to find this movie or anything like it.
00:04:55.340 And that's reason enough to go check it out, I'd say. Yeah, I would say in the fevered dreams of
00:05:00.120 Charles Martel himself, you probably wouldn't see this movie. I think, you know, Pope Pius X would
00:05:07.140 say like, hey, guys, slow your roll a little bit. This is a little heavy handed on the old Muslims. 1.00
00:05:11.440 But it's not just the Muslims. It's also the purple haired liberal students who have a very 0.97
00:05:17.880 strange alliance that a lot of us have been talking about for a long time. And Ben, you've
00:05:22.140 been calling attention to for many years. Yeah, I mean, obviously the movie is, I would say sort
00:05:27.040 of a mashup of like Red Dawn and Blazing Saddles, but about radical Muslims. And so it's a lot of 0.91
00:05:32.560 fun. It's awesome. For the people who have not seen it yet today, or you should go subscribe
00:05:36.440 and watch it right now.
00:05:37.800 By the way, we should say
00:05:38.580 Run, Hide, Fight
00:05:39.420 was our most successful
00:05:40.440 movie release ever
00:05:41.760 at The Daily Wire.
00:05:42.920 Our day one numbers 1.00
00:05:43.680 on Run, Hide, Fight, Infidels 1.00
00:05:44.760 are doubling the numbers 1.00
00:05:46.020 that we did on the original
00:05:47.500 Run, Hide, Fight.
00:05:48.280 So already tons and tons
00:05:49.520 of people are watching it
00:05:50.960 and the reviewers are hating it.
00:05:52.320 And yeah, they're calling it
00:05:52.960 Islamophobic.
00:05:53.960 Again, these are the same reviewers
00:05:55.220 who were saying that
00:05:56.460 one battle after another
00:05:57.400 needed to win Best Picture Oscar,
00:05:59.100 which was just a radically 0.99
00:06:00.040 anti-American piece of crap 0.99
00:06:01.480 about how America 1.00
00:06:02.720 was a white supremacist country 0.97
00:06:03.900 and murdering federal officers 0.97
00:06:05.140 was an active good.
00:06:06.940 And so, you know, what this movie is,
00:06:09.140 is it's about the Red-Green Alliance, really. 1.00
00:06:11.360 It could have been called Useful Idiots. 0.99
00:06:12.740 Basically, you have a bunch of blue-haired liberal protesters 1.00
00:06:14.980 who are taking over the college campus,
00:06:17.300 obstructing events, and all the rest, 0.93
00:06:19.240 and they are used by their Islamist friends 0.96
00:06:22.040 in order to take over the campus. 1.00
00:06:23.780 Things don't go right for them, I would say,
00:06:25.420 from there on in, as has been historically the case.
00:06:28.820 And, you know, people are focusing on the politics of the thing,
00:06:31.120 but the reason that I'm kind of mashing up the Red Dawn
00:06:34.220 with the blazing saddles of it
00:06:35.220 is because there is a fairly serious point here
00:06:38.120 that I think Slate was best,
00:06:40.120 the ones called the deranged.
00:06:41.220 The reason they said it was deranged
00:06:42.240 is because they said that we took an evil glee
00:06:44.500 in portraying what exactly would happen
00:06:46.700 to the blue-haired liberals 0.98
00:06:48.120 if radical Muslims took over a campus. 0.95
00:06:50.760 And that's not evil glee, 0.95
00:06:52.080 that's just called realism.
00:06:53.640 Like in the real world, 1.00
00:06:54.820 all of the queers for Palestine go off buildings 1.00
00:06:56.700 in an Islamic state-run area. 1.00
00:06:59.560 And that's one of the points
00:07:00.500 that I think the film makes.
00:07:02.120 It makes it an entertaining fashion,
00:07:03.360 But I mean, it again, but there are also some knocks on the Muslims in the movie, too. 0.97
00:07:10.940 Like, yes, it does portray some of their best attributes, but it also shows the bad stuff, I think. 0.99
00:07:16.300 Right. Wow. Wow. Wow. But but yes, I mean, the basic idea, again, is that, again, Slate was very angry at us for showing ISIS doing ISIS things.
00:07:26.560 They're very upset at it, at us for that. And I believe that it was Slate that actually went
00:07:31.360 and quoted a top member of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, which is a group that was
00:07:35.700 founded by legitimate Muslim Brotherhood offshoots to talk about why it's so Islamophobic.
00:07:41.100 And the whole conversation about Islam versus Islamophobic, Islamist, Islamism, 0.50
00:07:45.580 which modifier we're supposed to use. Can we just put it out there that Islam as a global force,
00:07:50.640 as Samuel Huntington once said, has bloody borders and bloody innards, and that were there 1.00
00:07:54.340 to be mass Muslim migration to the West, it would be a bad thing. And we know this because it already 1.00
00:07:58.260 happened and it hasn't been awesome. Yeah. You know, one of my favorite writers,
00:08:03.520 the Catholic conservative types, every time they quote anybody, it's either Chesterton or Hilaire
00:08:09.860 Belloc. You know, those are the great 20th century polemicist writers. And Belloc totally called this.
00:08:14.440 He had this book on the Crusades where he says, we lost the Crusades. The Muslims won because we
00:08:20.160 lost at Damascus. And so as a result, Islam is solid and it's the West that's weaker. And he's 1.00
00:08:26.680 writing this in the 1930s when it looked like Islam was kind of dead as a major world force. 0.98
00:08:31.980 And he said, you guys are crazy. I mean, nobody is more to the right of Hilaire Belloc basically
00:08:36.500 that's ever lived. And he said, you guys are crazy. Islam is going to reassert itself and it's going 0.99
00:08:40.980 to happen sooner than later. And it did. It started to happen again in the 1970s, obviously 2001, 1.00
00:08:45.740 and it's, it's continued since then. So I, you know, I'm, I'm delighted that we're, uh, really
00:08:52.460 doubling and tripling down on, uh, uh, the hardcore, you know, message here. Uh, the other thing I
00:08:59.460 really like, look, I love a lot of the DW movies, but we now have a male lead. I don't know. We've
00:09:06.700 had a lot of chicks in the movies. We have a male lead. This is to your point, Ben, it is, 1.00
00:09:10.560 it's like Red Dawn with a bunch of Muslims added to, turned up to 11, get, get a real kick out of 1.00
00:09:16.440 it. So if you haven't subscribed, if I haven't showed this enough for you yet, dailywire.com
00:09:19.980 slash subscribe, you get the message. Goes great with a Mayflower cigar. It goes well though,
00:09:24.100 even, even without a Mayflower cigar. Is it this line that we, I mean, I made the joke about careers
00:09:28.620 for Palestine, but a lot of people are scratching their heads. How is it the case that the, you know,
00:09:34.260 purple haired tranny would, would team up with the Islamists or whatever? It does kind of make 1.00
00:09:39.140 some sense to me though. I don't know, Drew, is it just, they're all just dumb and they don't 1.00
00:09:42.580 realize that the Muslims don't like them or something? No. You know, the funny thing about 1.00
00:09:47.420 that variety review, just like it's excoriated us. They start out the first sentences. This is
00:09:53.060 more of a, uh, an epic troll than a creative endeavor. Now in a world where people like
00:09:59.120 variety own, have a stranglehold on the culture, an epic troll is the best creative endeavor you
00:10:06.380 can do. I mean, we've been doing epic trolls at this place for, since the Daily Wire began and
00:10:11.240 they've had tremendous effects. The movie is hilarious throughout. I don't understand why
00:10:16.480 it's wrong to show what is, you know, radical Muslims would do to the people who are queers 0.95
00:10:22.520 for Palestine and women for Palestine. I don't see why that is anything but a very, a perfectly 1.00
00:10:28.140 good piece of satire. I have to reveal, I don't want to give anything away from the movie. I, I,
00:10:32.480 I laughed throughout the movie.
00:10:33.960 I thought it was really funny, totally over the top.
00:10:36.480 There's one scene in this picture where an American of South Korean descent who is into brewing alcohol,
00:10:42.700 and he's seen throughout the movie studying brewing alcohol and talking about brewing alcohol.
00:10:47.180 He's faced with a tremendous challenge in a computer where he has to dismantle a terrible thing that's going to happen to his computer.
00:10:55.280 He's doing it.
00:10:56.500 His girlfriend says to him, why do you know how to do this?
00:10:59.880 And he says, I'm Asian.
00:11:01.120 I just thought, I thought, we're not supposed to be taking this entirely seriously.
00:11:06.860 This is a movie that's kidding around from the first line.
00:11:11.420 And on top of that, while it's kidding around, I thought the action sequences were pretty good.
00:11:15.340 You know, I thought the action sequences were gripping and scary.
00:11:18.380 And so I thought it did its job.
00:11:20.580 And as Ben says, Blazing Saddles, you know, and Red Dawn, why not?
00:11:25.520 You know, why would you not do that? 0.98
00:11:26.580 So I don't understand why the people who gave an Oscar to a movie in which conservatives are portrayed as sexual perverts and white supremacists can't take a joke. 0.98
00:11:38.400 I'm shocked that they can't take a joke. 0.99
00:11:39.820 Right. No, you know, our pal Dallas Saunier, who produced the film and who has made a lot of Daily Wire content and a lot of many films before he was at the Daily Wire.
00:11:49.800 Dallas Saunier is a maestro of violence.
00:11:53.280 He is maybe the leading connoisseur of on-screen violence working today.
00:11:58.880 And so you get that, too.
00:11:59.860 It's not all just funny.
00:12:00.960 I mean, there are some really phenomenal acting sequences in it.
00:12:04.380 Or, sorry, action sequences in it. 0.98
00:12:05.960 But I do want to get to the point because a lot of people seem to think that the kind of purple-haired queers for Palestine, they're just dummies. 0.94
00:12:15.300 If they ever opened up the Koran, if they ever read a history book, they would know that Islam is really violent. 0.93
00:12:20.260 And I want to give them more credit than that. 1.00
00:12:22.340 I think they kind of know that. I think they just, the radical left is very disordered and they're in the thrall to bad ideologies and possibly Satan. I'm not even really being hyperbolic.
00:12:35.940 And so I think they just realize that they have a common enemy, that they and the radical Muslims, though they disagree in a lot of particulars, they have a common enemy, which is Christian civilization and America and, I don't know, white people and men and whatever. 0.52
00:12:48.840 And so they're willing to team up with them, and anything that we oppose, they want to support. Is that too reductive a reading?
00:12:59.600 I don't think it is at all. I mean, it really is that simple, and I think that the movie does a pretty good job of showing this.
00:13:05.920 Now, in the movie, because a lot of it's to comedic effect, so a lot of the leftists in the film are portrayed as the more oblivious types, like they don't really understand what they're getting themselves into.
00:13:16.640 And there is an element of truth to that. I think there's some, I think that maybe at the kind of low level among the kind of the grunts on the left, maybe they don't quite understand it. But at a higher level, they certainly do. It's a strategic alliance. I think you're right, Michael. 0.62
00:13:31.460 It's actually it's actually pretty simple in that they the left that is hates Western civilization. 0.98
00:13:38.960 They hate, you know, they hate white people in particular. 0.99
00:13:42.660 They hate Christians. And they see and they see Islam and they see we have a we have a shared enemy. 0.99
00:13:48.700 They see Islam as a destructive force, something that seeks to destroy Western civilization. 0.82
00:13:54.040 And it's really it's really that simple. 0.98
00:13:55.740 I mean, we know on the left, we talk about it all the time, that it's not as though they necessarily have the best plan for rebuilding on the other side.
00:14:08.300 They're not quite as worried about that.
00:14:09.840 This is a destructive force.
00:14:11.360 And that's why I always say we call it progressive, progressivism.
00:14:15.700 I think some people on the right don't like that term because they say, well, it's not really progress.
00:14:20.500 I like the term because it's progressive in the sense that cancer is progressive.
00:14:24.320 It progresses in the same way and to the same end.
00:14:27.760 Like cancer doesn't have an intention necessarily for what it does after it kills you.
00:14:32.860 It just kills you.
00:14:33.700 And it's the same thing for the left. 0.99
00:14:35.160 And they see Islam as a tool for that.
00:14:38.840 They see mass migration from the third world generally as a tool for that. 1.00
00:14:43.620 And you know something, they're right. 1.00
00:14:44.900 It is.
00:14:45.560 You know, it's that simple.
00:14:46.400 And there is that commonality of just being a destructive force. 1.00
00:14:49.920 I say this, and so, like, I guess I'm Islamophobic in the sense that I think Islam is just contrary to our civilization, and they've been trying to conquer us for roughly 1,400 years, and it's ultimately just an incompatible world system, and one of us is going to prevail, and one of us is going to lose, at least in the fight over the West. 1.00
00:15:09.960 So I think that, but I agree with Dante, who hasn't yet come up on this show for some reason, who has a kind of grudging respect, you know, for like Saladin, the great Muslim in the Crusades, who, you know, he puts him with the virtuous pagans. 1.00
00:15:25.360 And so you see this in a lot of crusade literature, like the Song of Roland and those kinds of poems. 0.98
00:15:31.680 There is this kind of grudging respect for Islam while recognizing that they are intent on our destruction.
00:15:37.260 There's a lot of liberal propaganda about the Muslim conquest of Spain, of Iberia, in which they say, well, it was this thriving multicultural civilization and, you know, it was just very diverse.
00:15:47.520 And that's not really what happened.
00:15:48.960 They came over, they enslaved, they conquered, they killed tens of millions of Christians and enslaved them. 0.99
00:15:53.500 And really, they just, the great triumphs of that civilization was just the Muslims kind of using the Spanish and Western goods that had already existed. 1.00
00:16:05.240 So I think there is a commonality, too, in that Islam has brought a lot of destruction. 1.00
00:16:11.080 It's spread through destruction. 1.00
00:16:12.620 It hasn't syncretized with the West. 0.95
00:16:15.200 It hasn't grown anything out of the West.
00:16:17.240 And the same can be said, to your point, Matt, of the left.
00:16:19.780 You know, the left is very, very good at destroying things.
00:16:23.380 The left is not so good or really in any way concerned with building things.
00:16:28.320 But I do fear people are going to take from our commentary that the movie is like a little too nuanced, a little too subtle, a little too kind of hard to get. 0.97
00:16:38.880 So just in case you want to more accurately understand what the movie is about, here is a Muslim kicking a homosexual off a roof. 0.96
00:16:51.900 You both did your part in our conquest and for this I am saying. 0.99
00:16:58.320 your government kills people all over the world they celebrate it you only cared when they look
00:17:19.680 like you America destroyed our original glorious caliphate and they tortured and 0.77
00:17:28.040 imprisoned our Caliph. But they could not kill our spirit. Our purpose transcends the
00:17:36.540 things of this world. We just didn't expect so much death. We have killed the right amount
00:17:48.120 to instill fear. Many we let run so they could tell others of our strength and the remaining
00:17:53.500 I expected more resistance, but I should not be surprised.
00:17:58.500 So many in your country cannot even be bothered to produce children,
00:18:01.500 but this is a day that you will tell yours about.
00:18:05.500 We're not... we won't have kids.
00:18:11.500 I like everyone, and Bruce is...
00:18:15.500 I'm gay.
00:18:18.500 one. And Bruce, I'm gay. I want to address this. I want to address this. Wait a minute. As someone
00:18:31.520 who has kicked many homosexuals, although we were in chorus lines at the time, I just want to say 0.98
00:18:37.800 that along with what Walsh is saying about common enemies and things like this, there's this wild, 0.72
00:18:44.120 wild atmosphere of imaginary life on the left that I can't, I've never quite been able to get
00:18:51.340 over. In one of the reviews, I think it may have also been the Variety review, they shake their
00:18:56.340 finger at us because we don't have the empathy to sympathize with land acknowledgments, you know,
00:19:01.620 with saying, no, this land belonged to the Chippewa or whatever. And I've always felt like
00:19:05.260 I will sympathize with those acknowledgments the minute at the end of it, they give the land back
00:19:10.360 to the to the Comanches you know whatever they when they say this campus was once owned by you 0.89
00:19:15.880 know the the Chippewas and from now on we're giving classes out on the sidewalk because we're 1.00
00:19:20.800 letting them come back and hunt buffalo through the campus you know then I'll agree with it but 0.99
00:19:25.020 it's all fantasy and we saw it was all fantasy in Martha's Vineyard when the the illegals came in
00:19:31.540 and it was like oh you know we didn't quite mean that much we didn't quite quite want you here
00:19:36.440 You know, it's all, it's all this imaginary life that, that they live and they can't stand that you make fun of it because it exposes it for what it is, which is vapor. 0.91
00:19:46.480 Can I just say, I do, I just, on that scene, I feel like the gay guy didn't have to tell him. 0.96
00:19:56.160 He should have just kept that to himself. 0.88
00:19:58.120 When I was watching that scene, I got, you know, I find myself rooting for the left a little bit.
00:20:01.560 I'm like, don't keep it.
00:20:02.220 You don't have to tell him.
00:20:02.900 You don't have to tell him this.
00:20:04.020 Just keep it to yourself.
00:20:05.020 So if he couldn't tell from the voice, you don't have to tell him, you know, he's a little oblivious.
00:20:10.980 You know, it was a mistake. It was a tactical mistake.
00:20:12.900 I think we can all admit it was a tactical mistake for him to say something about it at that time.
00:20:16.960 But, you know, one of the things that you were saying, Michael, earlier, where you were saying it, I think Matt was saying it, too, 0.85
00:20:21.460 that we're not sure, like, how dumb some of the members of the left are or how much they understand this. 0.99
00:20:26.040 So I use as my case in point of them being just stupid, the actual reviewer for Variety, 1.00
00:20:32.040 who it seems may have actually attended 0.99
00:20:33.880 the protest in the movie.
00:20:35.800 Here is a line from the actual,
00:20:37.940 it is a line from the actual review.
00:20:39.620 Quote, are you contemptuous of radical leftists
00:20:42.220 who believe that others should be treated
00:20:43.660 with decency, care, and respect?
00:20:45.600 If so, this is the film for you.
00:20:48.180 So I have to say, first of all,
00:20:50.240 the notion that radical leftists
00:20:51.780 are just wonderful people
00:20:53.740 who believe that others should be treated
00:20:55.440 with decency, care, and respect 0.99
00:20:57.100 is such a bunch of horseshit. 0.97
00:20:59.240 I mean, it's just something, 0.99
00:21:00.800 but it's how they perceive themselves,
00:21:01.900 right? Some of the cruelest people, some of the most destructive people, you know, people who
00:21:05.780 would, for example, be chortling it up on TikTok over Charlie Kirk getting assassinated or something,
00:21:10.420 right? Those people are the people who just want others to be treated with decency and care and
00:21:15.220 respect. And that's why they're protesting in favor of Hamas in Gaza or why on 9-11 they're
00:21:20.740 reading Osama bin Laden's letters and finding some, it's just because they're so empathetic.
00:21:24.380 And how dare we make fun of those people? Like, again, if you really feel the empathy for the
00:21:30.420 Islamic terrorist, then yeah, you're kind of suicidal. And we actually have seen worlds 0.95
00:21:34.940 historically, the circumstance actually play out. I mean, this was the story of the 1979 revolution
00:21:40.120 in Iran. It was not just a bunch of radical Muslims. It was also communists. And the communists
00:21:44.720 and the radical Muslims came together pretty openly and overthrew the Shah, at which point
00:21:50.240 the communists turned to the Muslims and said, let's govern together. And the Muslims said,
00:21:53.520 we're going to execute literally all of you, which they then proceeded to do. And so again, 0.99
00:21:58.000 Again, you know, we tend to think because I think that maybe we're projecting our understanding of them onto them. 0.99
00:22:03.800 I'm not sure they even self-understand some of them, particularly the kids on college campuses who are mostly dumb as a rock. 0.96
00:22:08.960 I mean, maybe that's me being actually too flattering for them. 0.97
00:22:11.280 Maybe they truly understand the nature of what it is that they are allying with.
00:22:15.340 But I think what they figure is that those people that are allying with will never be fully victorious.
00:22:18.600 In the end, we'll be the ones who are driving the car.
00:22:20.800 And I just think that they don't understand that in the end, they will not be driving any car at all, particularly if they are women. 0.99
00:22:26.480 Yeah, well, this line, too, where the Variety guy is getting to it, where he says, you know,
00:22:31.080 that we just want to be compassionate and caring. And the line that you're seeing the Dems trot out
00:22:34.920 on the campaign trail now is, you're calling us radicals. Our radicalism is that we want to give
00:22:40.060 people health care. That's the new spin doctor line. They're all reciting it. And it falls so
00:22:45.840 flat for anyone paying attention because they're saying they just want to give you health care
00:22:51.760 as to your point, Ben, they're making TikTok celebrating Charlie's assassination or not just
00:22:57.800 to rely on the anecdote, or they are responding to pollsters and saying that 25 to 28% of very
00:23:05.020 liberal respondents or leftists under the age of 45 justify political violence, killing otherwise
00:23:10.660 innocent conservatives just because of what they believe. They are very violent. I mean, this is a
00:23:15.440 commonality between the left and the Muslims right now that is really overlooked. We give the left
00:23:20.260 too much of a pass on it. Even the Atlantic had to come out a few months ago and say that
00:23:24.920 left-wing terrorism is the chief problem with political violence right now. And by the way,
00:23:32.560 they're relying on data sets that still exclude most left-wing violence, that actually exclude
00:23:37.600 an Antifa attack on one of my very own speaking events. So I caught it just because I was looking
00:23:42.440 for that one incident. And then you look, the BLM violence is not counted in these data sets.
00:23:47.360 So even taking out most of the left-wing violence, still most of the political violence is coming here from the left.
00:23:54.720 And so there is a real commonality with that. 0.85
00:23:57.400 And I think the left has to grapple with it because they're going to try to downplay the Hassan Piker of it all.
00:24:02.960 They're going to say, oh, that was just one candidate in Maine.
00:24:05.560 It was just Abdul El-Sayed.
00:24:06.940 Or it was just AOC campaigning with Hassan Piker.
00:24:09.600 Or it was Bernie Sanders.
00:24:11.000 Or, you know, all of a sudden the list is pretty long to campaign with a guy who says America deserved 9-11, who says he wipes himself with the American flag, who called for the murder of two Republican senators, and who fantasized about personally murdering Charlie Kirk before one of his fellow travelers actually did it.
00:24:26.760 But the violence is a major, major problem here.
00:24:30.900 And we just give him a pass for it.
00:24:34.140 I don't know.
00:24:34.640 I see a huge commonality between the two sides.
00:24:36.840 i mean i think that that commonality is something we're trying to point out and run high fight 0.99
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00:25:42.860 Go check them out right now. Helixsleep.com slash dailywire. And one thing, Michael, that I found
00:25:48.520 astonishing about some of these reviews also is it's one of the things that annoys me the most
00:25:53.400 about what the left typically does is, Matt, you'll tell a joke and the left will pretend that
00:25:57.760 you're not joking when you tell the joke. Michael, you'll do the same thing. Drew, this happens to
00:26:01.540 legitimately all the time every day and so the reviews are like why isn't this a nuanced drama
00:26:06.580 about the necessities and desires of muslims in america facing down predations of the united
00:26:12.380 states and why why don't you treat the left with nuance like when was the last action movie from
00:26:17.580 1992 where you got like a nuanced view of the good guys and the bad guys let's just be clear
00:26:23.220 one battle after another which again is the one that i'm going to come back to because it won
00:26:26.240 best picture last year okay one battle after another is the least nuanced movie in the history
00:26:30.960 of film. It makes this movie look like an Ingmar Bergman presentation. I mean, truly. One battle
00:26:36.680 after another is just a botchery of a film. It is a full-scale propaganda effort on behalf of
00:26:42.700 the hard left that glorifies the murder of federal agents, treats the leadership of the United States
00:26:47.180 as though they're polo, shirt-wearing, golfing, full-scale white supremacists who also have 1.00
00:26:52.280 sexual fetishes for black women. And also, there's an underground railroad of illegal immigrants 1.00
00:26:57.540 run by the only competent person 0.99
00:26:59.320 in the movie, Benicio Del Toro.
00:27:00.680 And that's that one best picture.
00:27:02.220 So don't give me that this movie
00:27:03.820 isn't subtle enough for your taste.
00:27:05.820 It just doesn't agree with your view of the world.
00:27:08.020 And that's why you're actually super pissed about it.
00:27:09.900 And listen, I think that we're all very grateful for them
00:27:12.060 for saying the quiet part out loud
00:27:13.540 about their hatred of the politics of the film.
00:27:15.740 They then try to hide behind,
00:27:16.700 oh, well, we don't like the quality of the film.
00:27:18.180 You don't care about the quality of the film.
00:27:20.560 You care about the politics of the film
00:27:21.760 because the film is just, it is funny
00:27:24.000 and it is entertaining.
00:27:25.400 And I promise you're going to enjoy it
00:27:26.840 with your friends and your family when you watch.
00:27:28.960 I wouldn't recommend watching it with a 10-year-old,
00:27:30.880 but certainly with a 15 or 16-year-old,
00:27:32.980 you're going to have a good time with it.
00:27:33.860 Yes, you could watch it with your husband.
00:27:35.580 You could watch it with your brother.
00:27:37.120 In the case of Ilhan Omar,
00:27:38.540 who might well have appeared in the movie,
00:27:40.240 obviously that would be the same person.
00:27:42.380 The one real hard...
00:27:45.320 Hey, Nose, I want to follow up on a point
00:27:48.340 you made before, though,
00:27:49.320 because I think it actually is kind of important.
00:27:51.840 You know, I think everybody on this panel, 1.00
00:27:54.920 I know Ben has, and he's such an evil Jewish guy. 1.00
00:27:58.960 We've all talked about the fact that they're wonderful Muslim people and all that. 1.00
00:28:02.620 But those aren't the people that the left elects when they elect people to lead in this country. 1.00
00:28:07.180 I mean, the mayor of New York is a Jew-hating, terrorist-sympathizing piece of garbage. 1.00
00:28:12.700 And Abdul El-Sayed is not that far behind. 1.00
00:28:15.480 In fact, he may actually outstrip Zoramandani.
00:28:18.280 So these are not the people they're actually elevating.
00:28:21.420 They're not elevating the people that they would like us to acknowledge.
00:28:24.560 and I acknowledge them, but they're elevating the people in the film. They're looking at this
00:28:29.480 movie and saying, that's a terrible, terrible depiction of a Muslim. Let's elect a mayor of 0.94
00:28:32.820 New York. That would be a great idea. So I don't even know what they're complaining about.
00:28:37.340 Right. I like the Islamic grocer on whatever block it is in New York or the cab driver or
00:28:44.220 whatever, but that's not the guy that they're promoting. And it's also, by the way, not just
00:28:48.560 the fringe. I mean, it's important to point out that we are seeing this show up in the elections,
00:28:52.820 But even, you know, the movie obviously presents these kind of dumb college kids with the crazy 0.99
00:28:58.320 hair, queers for Palestine, and then the radical jihadi types. And you say, okay, well, you guys 0.99
00:29:03.540 are just talking about fringes. Again, don't forget the leading thought leader on the left,
00:29:08.620 such as it is, as it were, is Hassan Piker. I don't think that's an exaggeration. I think he's
00:29:14.740 the guy. He's the guy that the Democrat candidates look to. He's the biggest streamer on the left.
00:29:18.560 And he's not just being promoted by the fringe elements. He was being platformed by the New York
00:29:24.580 Times. The New York Times platformed that guy approvingly twice in the days following Charlie
00:29:29.140 Kirk's assassination. They've, they've platformed another couple of times since that, that first
00:29:34.460 spate. So this is a widespread phenomenon. It's, it's obviously happening. I agree. The left is
00:29:41.060 never interested in nuance when it's their projects. It's, it's only for ours that we're
00:29:46.920 supposed to make, I don't know, we're supposed to make nothing, which is really what they want.
00:29:50.800 And I think they're very upset that we keep making things that you can support at dailywire.com
00:29:54.480 slash subscribe. Speaking of Abdul El-Sayed, our friends over at Kalshi, now, this is awful.
00:30:00.840 This is awful. Can I just leave now? They're saying that Abdul El-Sayed has a 63% chance 0.98
00:30:07.620 of winning the race in Michigan over Mike Rogers at 37%. Do you guys buy those numbers?
00:30:14.540 I think they're a little bit high.
00:30:44.540 in the next Congress. I mean, people who for sure will get elected. Milak Hirosh over in Colorado.
00:30:48.700 Adam Hamawi was literally a mouthpiece for the blind sheikh who bombed the World Trade Center 0.96
00:30:52.980 in 1993. And that dude is going to end up in Congress from New Jersey. You have Daryliza 0.99
00:30:57.500 Chevalier over in New York, who's a full-scale terrorist sympathizer. They're a multiplicity 1.00
00:31:02.560 of these candidates. And again, to your guys' point, it's not just the candidates. The groups
00:31:07.000 that are quoted in all of these pieces calling us Islamophobic are literally unindicted co-conspirators
00:31:11.940 in terrorism trials, right?
00:31:13.720 They're quoting people
00:31:14.460 from like the Council
00:31:15.080 on American Islamic Relations,
00:31:16.800 which was an unindicted co-conspirator
00:31:19.280 in the Holy Land Foundation trial.
00:31:20.920 The Holy Land Foundation
00:31:21.560 was a charitable group in Texas
00:31:22.760 that was not a charity.
00:31:23.700 It was a front group 0.60
00:31:24.360 for fundraising for Hamas.
00:31:26.160 And Kara was an unindicted co-conspirator
00:31:27.500 in that case.
00:31:28.220 Like all the people they're quoting
00:31:29.920 may not agree with the exact terrorist attacks,
00:31:33.260 but they have tremendous sympathy
00:31:34.340 for these terrorist groups overall.
00:31:36.580 And this is, again,
00:31:37.420 one of the games that drives me crazy.
00:31:39.620 It's the semantic game. 0.99
00:31:40.500 No one is arguing that every Muslim in the United States loves terrorism and is evil. 0.96
00:31:44.360 Nobody is arguing that. 1.00
00:31:45.520 But is Islam as a general world force regressive, restrictive, and does it have bloody borders 0.99
00:31:51.160 and bloody innards, as Samuel Huntington said? 1.00
00:31:52.880 I mean, the answer is yes. 0.96
00:31:54.320 And therefore, if you then ship millions of people from these civilizations into your 0.84
00:31:58.760 own where they build enclaves, is that a good idea or a bad idea? 0.93
00:32:02.620 I think the obvious answer is it's quite a bad idea.
00:32:05.500 And let's be real about this.
00:32:06.740 Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan is a person who said about an actual honest to God terror attack
00:32:10.840 on a Jewish kindergarten in Detroit by presumably one of his constituents in Dearborn. He said,
00:32:17.000 hurt people, hurt people, and likened that guy trying to murder Jewish school children in Detroit
00:32:21.240 to Israel hitting a member of Hezbollah with a rocket in Lebanon. That guy is probably going 0.56
00:32:27.020 to be in the Senate. I mean, that's psychotic. That's crazy. So when we talk about this being 0.98
00:32:30.400 like an actual issue, when you put aside the funniness and the fact that the movie is kind
00:32:33.900 of a gas. Like, it's a real underlying issue that everybody is whistling past the grave
00:32:38.040 air on, which is why three quarters of the damned media coverage on 9-11 was about Islamophobia. 0.90
00:32:42.540 And I said to the New York Times, they tweeted back at me that if you had come down in a 0.94
00:32:46.440 spaceship as an alien on 9-11 this year and you just read the front page of the New York
00:32:50.220 Times, you immediately would have assumed that 9-11 was a mass at scale attack on Muslims
00:32:56.160 by Americans. That's what you would have assumed because the headline was like 9-11
00:32:59.360 morning takes place. And then the second headline was Islamophobia, even worse, 25
00:33:03.300 years later. It's like, what the limit? It's just the Norm Macdonald joke.
00:33:06.560 That's the Norm bit. Yeah. You know, the odd thing after 9-11, I mean, this is a real indictment of
00:33:11.740 us just as a polity, but after 9-11, public support for Islam increased. So not only did 0.99
00:33:20.220 you not have the Islamophobic backlash that Norm was joking about, support for Islam increased.
00:33:26.020 Since 9-11, the number of mosques in the United States has more than doubled. So I think a lot 0.52
00:33:31.580 of people are looking around and saying, huh, maybe we don't want to be cruel. We don't want
00:33:35.280 to be unjust, but maybe we could have used a little touch of Islamophobia. Maybe that would 0.98
00:33:39.340 have helped a little bit. I mean, so people have this sense that, okay, the really bad elements,
00:33:43.940 we got to get them out of the country. The Trump administration, I alluded to it a little earlier
00:33:48.260 about Ilhan Omar. They did just come out. You had Tom Homan on TV the other day saying that
00:33:54.260 there's an investigation into Ilhan Omar, whether or not she committed immigration fraud. And there
00:34:00.180 was the anchor raised the suggestion and said, well, Ilhan Omar is both a citizen and a member
00:34:06.040 of Congress. Is there a chance that she could be denaturalized and deported and obviously thereby
00:34:12.380 removed from Congress? And Homan didn't say no. So I don't know. A lot of people were sort of
00:34:17.960 licking their chops at this prospect. I'm, I don't know. To me, do you guys think that's
00:34:23.320 actually going to happen? Nah. It should happen. I don't think it will. But it should. Of course
00:34:32.420 it should. I mean, I don't even understand how, the fact that she's in Congress, I mean, it's like
00:34:36.540 what Ben is talking about. The fact that she's in Congress is like a bad dream anyway. She literally
00:34:41.380 wrote a letter to a judge. By the way, it would happen on the other side. Like this shows how 0.66
00:34:47.440 kind of demoralized and defeated, I guess, conservatives are to some extent that we all
00:34:52.560 agree. Like, our answer to that is absolutely it should happen, and absolutely it probably won't.
00:34:58.240 And why is that? Like, I think that shows you something, that why wouldn't that happen? If
00:35:04.200 we all agree that it should, why wouldn't? No, but I'll tell you why, Matt, because if we did that,
00:35:09.640 if we did that good and lawful thing that would help the country, why then in the future,
00:35:15.580 if the left gets power, they might do an unlawful and unjust thing to us. Could you imagine?
00:35:21.860 Yeah, they might do what they were going to do anyway. That's the fear. If the left gets in
00:35:27.000 power, they'll do exactly the thing that they were always going to do.
00:35:30.320 I don't know if we're demoralized. I think we expect nothing of Congress. I mean, I noticed
00:35:34.680 this now that, you know, there used to be this thing in conservative media where people would
00:35:38.480 just brush off the media. They just, they say, well, the media is to the left, so we have to
00:35:42.000 expect that. And I would think, no, you know, we can reform the media. We can take them on. We can
00:35:46.280 beat them. I think we have, to a large extent, beaten the mainstream media or at least tamed
00:35:51.180 them. But, you know, we now feel this way about Congress. And I think that that's a little bit
00:35:55.320 more legitimate. I think expecting anything to come out of Congress, anything, any investigation
00:35:59.800 to end with an indictment, any conversation to end with a law is just way, way out of the reach
00:36:06.760 of reality. I mean, it's not what's happening at all. So if you were on trial or investigated,
00:36:12.700 I'd say maybe, but in Congress, eh. By the way, the American public tends to apparently agree
00:36:18.260 with all of us, according to our friends over at Kalshi, a 16% shot that Ilhan Omar gets charged
00:36:23.720 with a federal crime this year. And notice the number has gone down. Notice that even you would
00:36:29.360 expect, you'd hope that the number would go up after you have the deportation czar going on TV
00:36:34.580 saying this is a possibility. But the number actually in recent months, it's gone down.
00:36:38.580 Nobody expects that Ilhan's even going to be charged with a crime. Right. That's exactly right.
00:36:43.680 It's also true. Again, I come back to less about the crime that she committed or allegedly
00:36:48.080 committed by marrying her brother to achieve his chain migration into the country, which is the
00:36:53.140 allegation. Like the fact that this woman is in Congress in the first place is an indictment of 0.69
00:36:57.240 mass migration. It just is. Her district elected her and she literally wrote a letter to a judge 0.87
00:37:02.080 trying to lower the sentence for a person who tried to join ISIS. I wish that I were joking,
00:37:06.460 but that's absolutely true. She literally wrote a letter to a judge. There's a young man who tried
00:37:10.140 to join ISIS. He was sentenced to jail time. She wrote a sympathetic letter to the judge saying
00:37:13.880 that the cruelties of American foreign policy
00:37:16.240 had caused him to want to join ISIS.
00:37:18.020 Therefore, he should be let largely off the hook.
00:37:20.580 And again, this is happening in the country right now.
00:37:23.520 It is a thing that is happening.
00:37:25.240 And I mean, Michael, you mentioned it
00:37:27.120 and since we're the week after 9-11,
00:37:28.980 there are many mistakes made in the aftermath of 9-11.
00:37:31.720 I will still say, I think one of the biggest mistakes
00:37:33.640 made in the aftermath of 9-11
00:37:34.780 is that in the days immediately following 9-11,
00:37:36.760 I mean, immediately, George W. Bush
00:37:38.660 went on national television,
00:37:39.820 flanked by people from the Council
00:37:41.000 on American Islamic Relations,
00:37:42.160 and then explained to Americans
00:37:43.540 that Islam was a religion of peace
00:37:45.180 and that what had happened was a perversion of Islam.
00:37:47.740 He just doubled down on that to Condoleezza Rice,
00:37:49.860 by the way, just about a week ago.
00:37:51.020 It's totally insane.
00:37:51.980 It's totally insane.
00:37:52.920 It's insane.
00:37:53.460 It's crazy.
00:37:54.020 And it's the thing that drove me
00:37:57.580 to start talking about this stuff
00:37:59.380 is that is a cultural problem.
00:38:02.180 That is a problem, you know,
00:38:03.520 what does God's side call it?
00:38:04.680 He calls it suicidal empathy or something like that.
00:38:06.960 But it's just that that has been enforced
00:38:09.180 in the minds of people by movie after movie,
00:38:12.800 by television show, talk show, talk show, you know, all the news media, that somehow that's
00:38:17.120 a good thing to look at a suicide bomber or somebody who attacks a synagogue and say,
00:38:23.000 well, I have empathy because I can identify with that and sympathize with that.
00:38:27.440 That's not what empathy is supposed to be.
00:38:30.260 And it is a thing, you know, as somebody who's written thrillers all my life, I know that
00:38:34.020 when you create a complex evildoer, you feel like you've done something good.
00:38:38.320 And I think you have.
00:38:39.040 You've shown that these people are not monsters.
00:38:40.800 their people. But that that you should take that into life by saying, yeah, you know, I really feel
00:38:46.160 for Hannibal Lecter. I really feel, you know, like we we need to give that guy some better spices for
00:38:50.340 his meat. You know, I think that that's mistaking the message of that kind of art. I think the thing
00:38:55.100 is, you know, hunt that guy down. You're supposed to be rooting for the good guys. And we really
00:38:59.120 have when I say that the left is living a fantasy, that's the fantasy. The fantasy is that if you
00:39:04.860 feel empathy, you are somehow good and you are somehow doing something good. And in spite of
00:39:09.560 what Chesterton said, the road to hell really is paved with good intentions. This goes back to a
00:39:14.660 point that Matt was making, and I think it's a really good point, which is that I think that
00:39:18.320 the Bush move, the Islam is a religion of peace move, was in fact less about the suicidal empathy
00:39:24.360 for radical Islam and much more about insecurity about pride in America. I really think that that's 0.81
00:39:29.680 the thing that's been lacking here. And I think that that's true across the United States. I think
00:39:33.240 that for the left, again, it's not that the left predominantly loves Islam. It's that they hate
00:39:37.280 the United, like truly passionately and deeply hate the United States. And so they are willing
00:39:42.400 to not only fellow travel with, but push Islam as some sort of solution to global problems. 0.57
00:39:47.560 And even on the right, there is now this bizarre move, this kind of shyness about America,
00:39:52.140 this desire to paint America as inherently bad or as causative of everybody else's bad feelings.
00:39:57.380 And these are all kind of normal people who would just be living their own lives in the middle 0.67
00:40:00.960 of nowhere, except that we really pissed them off by having a military base in Saudi Arabia. 0.95
00:40:05.440 And if only we weren't so mean and Western, then probably they'd be fine and happy with us. 0.80
00:40:09.340 And that's just not true. 1.00
00:40:10.760 It turns out that, as Michael said right at the top of the show, for some 1,400 years, Islam has been a religion of conquest. 0.64
00:40:16.560 It is not as though people don't have independent motivations without us doing things. 0.92
00:40:20.840 And when you are so kind of self-centered and navel-gazing that you think that every bad thing a radical Muslim does around the world or Muslim regimes do around the world, that must be the result of what we do.
00:40:30.680 that is so self-centered, arrogant, and again, reflective of this bizarrely self-involved 0.91
00:40:39.000 worldview that you end up destroying everything around you, not because you're empathetic for
00:40:43.200 them, but because you're so concerned with yourself. And I think that there's a lot of
00:40:46.200 that going on. Yeah, there's this error. And you say they truly, you say they truly hate America,
00:40:50.460 but do they really hate America? This is, this is my point. You know, I believe you. I think
00:40:54.660 you're right. They truly hate America, but if they really hated America, there's a plane leaving
00:40:58.460 every 10 minutes, you know, they could just leave, but they don't. And they, and even the ones,
00:41:02.220 even those dumb celebrities who run away because, oh my God, Trump is coming. Godzilla, 1.00
00:41:07.400 Trump is coming. They come back after like a couple of months. As I well know, as a former
00:41:12.000 expatriate, there's no place better to be than this. And I, and after a while they find that
00:41:16.440 out. So this hate, even the hatred is narcissistic fantasy. Even the hatred is just like, if I hate
00:41:22.040 America, I'm doing something good because I'm not being, I don't know, jingoistic or whatever it is.
00:41:27.080 uh, they feel that that's why I really, I really hate the term. That's why I hate the term suicidal
00:41:33.540 empathy. I mean, it's because as you guys have covered, and I agree, it's, it's actually not
00:41:37.560 empathy at all. I mean, we do them a huge favor when we say that they're suicidally, you know, 0.85
00:41:42.460 empathetic because if somebody was actually had like a suicidal level of empathy, well,
00:41:48.640 that would be someone who's crazy and should not be in power and is irrational, but it's actually 0.60
00:41:54.040 a really good person. I mean, that's someone who, like, you care so much about other people that
00:41:58.360 you're driven to do things that are self-destructive. That makes you irrational, but like
00:42:04.040 very morally decent, if confused. And that's just not the case here at all. I think that what we
00:42:10.240 call suicidal empathy is actually the exact opposite. It's a total lack of empathy. I mean,
00:42:14.880 it's the same thing with, you know, you find on the left that they sympathize with the criminals. 0.98
00:42:20.080 And so that's why we have to keep releasing the, you know, the murderous black guys back out into the public because they're so empathetic, supposedly, for these criminals. 0.96
00:42:31.180 That's not empathy. That's a total lack of empathy and sympathy for the victims of that guy. 0.99
00:42:37.740 That's like you don't feel anything.
00:42:39.320 We just went, not to take this in a totally wrong direction, but we went through this with the Lindsay Clancy trial.
00:42:44.300 It's like pretending that we're so empathetic for this woman.
00:42:47.240 No, no, no, you're not empathetic for her.
00:42:48.240 you don't care at all about the three children she murdered. You're not even thinking about them.
00:42:52.600 You feel nothing for them. And, uh, and, you know, it's like the, the saying that, you know,
00:42:56.740 cruelty for the, or mercy for the guilty is guilty to the innocent. Adam Smith. You know,
00:43:02.820 the nicest thing I think you can say about the libs here equally applies to George W. Bush when
00:43:08.420 he made that crazy statement that he just doubled down on 25 years later, that Islam is a religion
00:43:13.640 of peace. And it's this kind of wish casting. When the left wants to let the aforementioned 0.59
00:43:20.920 career black criminal homeless guy out in New York so that he can go push more people down 0.98
00:43:26.100 the subway stairs, what they're saying, the most charitable read of what they're saying is, 0.95
00:43:30.900 well, I just prefer to think that this guy will be reformed. I prefer to think after the 75th
00:43:37.560 time he's been arrested that that's it. There's not going to be a number 76. I prefer to think
00:43:43.160 that a boy really can be a girl. That's probably the extreme version of that wish casting. And when 0.71
00:43:47.900 George W. Bush says Islam is a religion of peace, what he's really saying is I prefer to think that
00:43:52.940 Islam is a religion of peace. And it isn't. That's obviously belied by the entire history of Islam 1.00
00:43:58.060 from the moment that Muhammad received his supposed apparitions all the way up to present
00:44:03.680 day. It just isn't. Some religions don't spread through violence, namely Christianity, which
00:44:08.160 spreads, Christianity spreads through violence in the sense that Christians are the victims of
00:44:12.860 violence as they are evangelizing. You know, the instances of Christian violence and evangelism, 0.90
00:44:18.460 you can count on far less than one hand throughout history, and there was controversy over them at
00:44:23.680 the time, going back to the reign of Charlemagne, okay? With Islam, that is just the modus operandi, 0.99
00:44:29.040 and so Bush couldn't grapple with that. I have sympathy for him, though not to a suicidal degree, 1.00
00:44:34.540 in the sense that he wanted to keep the Muslims who are in America happy.
00:44:41.000 He wanted to think the best of people.
00:44:43.300 He didn't want to offend our Gulf allies, perhaps.
00:44:46.560 So he said something that isn't true.
00:44:48.960 But this is what the left does.
00:44:50.220 You know, the left's argument, all the way up through the transgender thing, 0.90
00:44:53.040 was that they seem to believe that lies are liberating. 0.92
00:44:55.960 That if we just lie and we all agree to lie together, that we can change the world.
00:45:00.080 And that the truth is somehow oppressive.
00:45:02.500 And that's entirely contrary to what we've always believed and what is true, which is that the truth is what sets you free.
00:45:08.380 You know, that's a pretty foundational principle for us.
00:45:10.900 And, you know, you see this in all of our Western institutions, going back to the church.
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00:46:22.860 You make a good point, Knowles,
00:46:25.000 because you know that book, Dominion by Tom Holland?
00:46:28.020 wonderful kind of an epoch-making book almost where he traces the just universal effect that
00:46:33.780 Christianity has had on the West and how it's seeped into our pores. And one of the reasons 0.78
00:46:37.820 really that I became convinced of Christianity was noticing that it was so true that it vanished 0.88
00:46:45.400 once you accepted it. Like once you accept the ethos of Christianity, it disappears because it's
00:46:50.300 so obviously the case. So you're just living in reality. You don't have to label it Christian.
00:46:54.200 And I think that that's one of the problems the West has in this moment when Christianity has fallen away and when belief has fallen away is that we forget that this is who we are and this is why we believe what we believe. 0.55
00:47:05.480 And I am somebody who loves to anger the anti-Semites by pointing out that it is Judeo-Christianity.
00:47:10.580 It's the same ethos of, you know, caring about other human beings as you care for yourself.
00:47:16.060 And I think that that's the Bush problem. You know, there's that wonderful line that I think was William F. Buckley had about the Bushes was that they are conservative. They are he is a conservative, but he's not conservative with a big C and the big C makes all the difference.
00:47:30.960 And I think that's the thing about George W. Bush was that he didn't really understand that his own religion, which he was sincere about, was why he thought the things he thought, why he stood against the people he stood against and why he fought the wars he fought.
00:47:45.260 And so he kind of muddied the waters, as Ben says, he's muddied them very, very quickly so that the Babylon Bee had that great headline.
00:47:53.160 I think it was the Babylon Bee, if not the Onion, where they said we predict victory against whoever it is we're fighting.
00:48:00.500 I think that that was a real problem with the wars on terror is not focusing on what exactly we were doing. 0.87
00:48:06.320 Yeah, so we need to focus on this movie by playing a video of the Muslim leader saying a bunch of crazy stuff. 0.81
00:48:12.840 That was a worse transition. 0.99
00:48:15.260 My name is Ibrahim Asad Melod, I am an expatriate of the Islamic State in Iraq and Al-Sham.
00:48:26.700 We who love and serve Allah fought back against the Americans and the Zionists and established
00:48:34.200 the glorious Caliphate.
00:48:35.980 It was a place where Muslims could live with dignity and find a refuge from the scourge
00:48:41.540 of secularism and the lands of unbelief but unfortunately your imperialism would not allow
00:48:51.300 you to leave us alone in peace pursuing the ways of allah no it was destroyed
00:49:02.260 but the miracles of allah
00:49:03.620 they never cease for here today inside of your united states
00:49:13.280 we establish a new caliphate
00:49:18.060 maybe small but every soul who truly serves Allah is a whole world 0.92
00:49:28.520 and only in a true caliphate can we truly serve a law 0.71
00:49:35.580 the great satan america will fall
00:49:42.660 it's a documentary main criticism yes yes i mean well that's kind of the point right i mean
00:49:51.360 you know that's kind of that's kind of the point michael is that actually when you watch the film
00:49:55.540 One of the things that's weird about it, and I think that the reason why, you know, I call this sort of a mashup between Red Dawn and Blazing Saddles,
00:50:03.600 is there are these very funny moments that obviously are like half-joking.
00:50:06.940 But then the villain actually is just saying things that people actually say, right?
00:50:11.400 I mean, like, that is stuff that ISIS says.
00:50:14.080 And so when it gets called deranged by Slate, yeah, I mean, that belief system is totally deranged.
00:50:19.460 It also happens to be the governing belief system for literally hundreds of millions of people in a wide variety of countries around the world.
00:50:24.880 And what he's saying about Islamic caliphate and Sharia law being a way to govern your life and the only way that you can truly be fulfilled as a human being is to be Muslim and to be Muslim in a Sharia law society. 0.78
00:50:35.380 That is the case made by, like, Pakistan, okay? 0.87
00:50:37.720 That's a case that is made by Indonesia, right?
00:50:39.680 These are cases that are made all over planet Earth.
00:50:42.440 And to pretend that away is, I think, a sin.
00:50:45.540 Because when you pretend away the truth, you end up making yourself vulnerable.
00:50:48.520 I mean, Drew, you threw out the term war on terror because that was the term, obviously, that Bush used.
00:50:52.820 You can't fight a war against a tactic.
00:50:54.440 And everyone was pointing this out with half a brain.
00:50:56.360 The minute that George W. Bush started talking about this back in 2001, 2002, war on terror
00:51:01.460 is like saying war on murder.
00:51:03.560 You can't do that.
00:51:05.080 You actually have to fight a war against particular people or particular ideologies.
00:51:09.320 If you had said that the war against the Nazis during World War II is not a war against
00:51:12.900 Nazis, it was a war on blitzkrieg, that would have made zero sense to anybody.
00:51:17.180 But again, we did like two decades of that simply because we refused to acknowledge the
00:51:20.880 elephant in the room.
00:51:21.760 and it's an elephant that we still refuse to acknowledge
00:51:23.940 and that you're called a slur
00:51:27.560 for acknowledging the elephant in the room.
00:51:29.720 That's what's so frustrating about all of this.
00:51:31.980 Yeah, you know, listening to the speech-
00:51:33.780 Are you saying that Nazism is not the religion of peace? 0.57
00:51:35.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.94
00:51:36.680 That's why I'd be clear.
00:51:37.920 Relatively, maybe, to even the newer ideologies
00:51:40.200 that are coming out.
00:51:41.800 Listening to the speech, I'm reminded of a great-
00:51:44.560 It might have been Belloc, too.
00:51:45.580 I just crib all my good stuff from Chesterton and Belloc.
00:51:47.980 But it was an observation,
00:51:49.360 it's been made by many other people over history, though,
00:51:51.100 which is that one of the features of Islam that distinguishes it from Christianity,
00:51:55.840 which you very eloquently described, Drew, is this sort of ethos of reality.
00:51:59.640 One of the elements of Islam that distinguishes it is that it's a very carnal religion. 0.80
00:52:05.940 And I think Chesterton said it appeals to carnal men. 0.99
00:52:08.920 It's carnal in the sense that when Christians think about heaven,
00:52:12.520 our image of heaven is the beatific vision.
00:52:15.120 You know, it's being with God and loving him forever in the communion of the saints
00:52:18.700 in this way that we can't possibly imagine.
00:52:20.700 You know, we can't even begin to fathom what God has prepared for us in heaven.
00:52:26.020 So I remember when I was a little boy, I asked my family friend, I said, hey, well, will I have pizza in heaven?
00:52:31.160 Because I really like pizza.
00:52:32.460 And you say heaven's where all the good stuff is.
00:52:34.040 So am I going to get pizza?
00:52:35.020 And he said, well, I guess you could, but you won't need it or want it. 1.00
00:52:38.040 And with Islam, it kind of goes backwards. 0.99
00:52:40.920 And it substitutes all of these spiritual goods for carnal goods. 1.00
00:52:45.440 That's the idea of the 72 virgins.
00:52:47.360 And so it's no surprise that Christianity, the religion that animates and defines our civilization, spreads in this very spiritual way where the violence is really just committed against us and yet somehow the religion spreads because of the Holy Spirit. 0.89
00:53:02.240 Whereas for Islam, being carnal, it has to spread through physical means, not through the spiritual warfare of holding my rosary and praying, but the physical warfare of actual bullets. 0.85
00:53:15.080 You know, those two things don't jive. 1.00
00:53:18.080 And so I think that's why you're having a lot of problems of assimilation here.
00:53:21.320 Did you see some of these reports that, after we've been reading for years and years about no-go zones in Paris and throughout continental Europe and parts of the UK,
00:53:30.700 now we're getting something kind of like that in the United States?
00:53:34.700 I think a cop said he's not going into some of these neighborhoods.
00:53:39.920 How's it going, sir?
00:53:41.100 Quick question for you.
00:53:42.220 Um, I noticed you're giving a ticket to this car, right?
00:53:45.220 Yes.
00:53:46.220 Okay, and what about all the taxis that are double-parked? 0.98
00:53:49.220 They're allowed in the time of Salat.
00:53:53.220 Please say that again to the camera. Go ahead.
00:53:57.220 They're permitted in the time of Salat in the city.
00:54:01.220 They're permitted to double-park in the time of prayer. 1.00
00:54:04.220 How do you know they're Muslim?
00:54:06.220 Why is he not allowed to? 0.94
00:54:08.220 Why is he not allowed to? How do you know he's not praying?
00:54:11.220 How do you know that that car is not going to pray?
00:54:18.820 How do you know that the guy that drives that car is not going to pray?
00:54:22.480 This is not the question.
00:54:23.480 Only the question is the time of prayer, we can park.
00:54:27.880 We are not justified and police justify that's a matter.
00:54:31.100 I have two takeaways.
00:54:32.100 One, I think it's kind of based that cops are not giving out tickets so that people
00:54:36.500 can pray.
00:54:37.440 That is awesome. 1.00
00:54:38.440 problem is they're, they're doing it for Muslims. Like if it were around churches, I think that's 1.00
00:54:43.260 way better. But also, but there's also clearly this two-tiered system. The, the guy, the Christian
00:54:48.540 guy, the Jewish guy, the atheist guy who's driving, he gets the ticket, but the Muslim guy has a 0.85
00:54:53.500 separate set of laws. I mean, I'm not saying we're gonna have Sharia law at the federal level tomorrow, 0.84
00:54:57.900 but that is clearly incrementally moving in that direction, isn't it? And it shows you, it shows 0.98
00:55:04.100 you the total fiction of the separation of church and state myth, which we know was always
00:55:11.860 kind of mythology because that's not actually in the First Amendment, the separation of church and
00:55:15.700 state. But you had judges in the middle of the 20th century that kind of latched on to this
00:55:21.280 phrase that, as we know, came from a letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote. It wasn't actually a legal
00:55:25.360 document. And they totally misinterpreted it. And the way that they interpreted it for the last,
00:55:32.380 what, 60 or 70 years, is that separation of church and state, it means that religion and
00:55:38.740 government cannot commingle at all. It means that you can't pray in school. It means that you can't
00:55:43.060 have the Ten Commandments up in a classroom. You can't have the nativity scene up on public
00:55:47.680 property, even though none of that stuff constitutes the legislature establishing a
00:55:54.400 state religion, which is the only thing that, which is all that the separation of church and
00:55:58.920 state so-called was even supposed to do. But that's what they told us. And, you know, total
00:56:03.720 separation. And now you have this, and now you have in New York, if you're a Muslim, you can 0.80
00:56:08.340 double park, you get a different set of laws. And you would think that all of the, you know, 0.99
00:56:13.040 all the non-profits, all the kind of atheist, secularist non-profits that exist, they exist
00:56:19.280 for exactly this, supposedly. They exist for when that happens, they're going to rappel down like
00:56:25.020 the SWAT team and just start filing lawsuits. And they're not doing that here because what we
00:56:29.560 discover is that the separation of church and state thing was always about, it was never about
00:56:34.180 freedom from religion. It was always specifically about Christianity. They wanted to push
00:56:39.820 Christianity in particular out of the public sphere as much as they could. And then what 0.52
00:56:45.860 happens? You end up with a giant vacuum. I mean, Drew, you mentioned earlier the land
00:56:51.460 acknowledgments. And it's just another form of kind of religious worship. It's another form of
00:56:57.500 religious observation. And so we push Christianity out of the public sphere, and then you start 0.96
00:57:02.780 filling it in with this kind of secularist religion with the land acknowledgments, or you 0.62
00:57:07.620 end up with radical Muslims who show up and they take their religion very seriously. And they're
00:57:14.100 very happy to fill in the gap. And of course, the left isn't there to stop them because they
00:57:17.940 have no interest and and not to not to hammer the same point over and over again but you just notice
00:57:22.080 that just this guy is asking questions he's not trying to humiliate the officer or anything like
00:57:27.640 that he's just trying to get the facts out of him he stops i'm not talking to you it reminded me of
00:57:31.840 matt's film what is a woman where he would say say the most innocent thing like what is a woman and
00:57:36.760 it would be like get out you know get out of the room why are you asking about these things yeah
00:57:41.860 why are you asking that what's what is what is wrong with you it's just they it cannot stand
00:57:46.880 the light of day, which is what makes the Daily Wire and places like it, if there are other places
00:57:51.160 like it, it's what makes it so important. It's just shining a light on the absurdity of it,
00:57:55.740 that it is just an imaginary world. It's an imaginary world they're living in that is
00:58:00.120 threatening to this world, which I happen to like. It's threatening to the real world,
00:58:05.300 because if you live by those imaginary values, the real world can't stand.
00:58:09.200 It's just amazing. It happens again and again. It's incredible to see where the left sees
00:58:15.220 oppression and where they where they see freedom it's kind of incredible there there was uh an
00:58:20.180 interviewer i think that it's the piece probably going to come out tomorrow from the new york times
00:58:23.180 the new york times interviewed dallas and they interviewed me about the film and one of the
00:58:26.720 things that the interviewer asked he said well you know aren't you afraid that this is going to
00:58:30.060 cause islamophobic sentiment i said well i mean it is simply just portraying isis as isis and it
00:58:35.220 is saying things that are perfectly true about islam as a global religious force not talking
00:58:39.220 about individual muslims or anything like that and he said well you know people in dearborn are
00:58:42.760 deeply you know jake lang was in dearborn and people in dearborn are deeply afraid i said well 1.00
00:58:46.340 it seems to me that jake lang should have been more deeply afraid considering they beat the living
00:58:49.460 hell out of him and the reporter kind of stopped for a second because it had literally never occurred 0.98
00:58:54.300 to him that jake lang having the shit kicked out of him was actually worse than jake lang standing 0.99
00:59:00.200 there with a sign that was offensive to muslims and you don't have to be a jake lang bang to 0.99
00:59:03.840 acknowledge that like the the reality of physical assault is a worse thing than carrying a sign in
00:59:10.000 a place where people don't want you to carry the sign.
00:59:12.200 But this had literally never occurred to the New York Times report.
00:59:16.080 He actually like you heard him stop on the phone as though this was the first time anybody
00:59:19.100 had ever articulated something like this.
00:59:21.060 And again, I think that it's that level of just blindness to what actual misuse of law
00:59:27.680 looks like that is making us so vulnerable as a country.
00:59:30.640 It's like, OK, if people come here and they legitimately use the rules of the society
00:59:34.400 against us and then they violate those rules in the same way in order to harm us and they
00:59:39.200 do both those things simultaneously, then it must be some failing of ours. We haven't fully
00:59:43.760 understood what we've done to make that happen. And I mean, that truly is suicidal.
00:59:47.960 You know, it reminds me of this discourse on the right that you hear a lot about whether the right
00:59:52.220 should be more muscular in its use of government power. And they're all debates that have gone on
00:59:56.560 for decades on the American right. But one of the memes that's come out of that, which I think is
01:00:01.200 manifestly true, is that if you have two parties fighting against each other and one of them wants
01:00:06.500 to wield power and one of them doesn't want to wield power, guess which party is going to win?
01:00:12.180 It's always going to be the party that's actually doing something that has activity, that has a
01:00:17.220 vision, that has a coalition and has momentum. And so when you look at this scene out of New York
01:00:24.400 where the Islamic community is saying, look, we're going to reshape the standards and the norms. 0.99
01:00:29.720 We're going to violate the law and we'll effectively change the law to accommodate us. 0.98
01:00:34.920 What are you guys going to do about it? 0.94
01:00:36.840 Well, you know, I don't see a lot of Christians banding together saying,
01:00:40.660 actually, we're going to double park during lunchtime daily mass.
01:00:44.760 Or, you know, I don't see a broader coalition of Christians and Jews in New York,
01:00:50.500 which is basically what New York has been for a very, very long time,
01:00:53.780 saying, actually, we're going to have X, Y, and Z series of standards,
01:00:57.640 and that's going to be enshrined in our law.
01:00:59.780 Because, to Matt, to your point, there's no such thing as a separation of church and state.
01:01:04.040 Never a perfect one anyway, because the legislators have to have recourse to morality,
01:01:08.720 which means they have to have recourse to religion,
01:01:10.340 and they're governing particular people who have certain rituals that go along with their religion,
01:01:14.720 like being closed on Sundays for, you know, having blue laws or something like that.
01:01:18.660 So there's never any way to do that, and we bury our heads in the sand and say,
01:01:22.320 no, we're going to have a totally neutral, secular kind of law, 1.00
01:01:26.800 and the Muslims come in and they say, yeah, we're not interested in that. 1.00
01:01:29.880 What are you going to do about it? Nothing? Okay, cool, we're going to double park. 1.00
01:01:33.300 And this is why I think the Declaration is so important. The Declaration of Independence is so important because it actually establishes a God that we believe in, a God who installs in us the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, which is different.
01:01:45.540 You know, that's that's different. Not every religion actually gives you those rights and dows you with those rights.
01:01:50.320 And I don't think that we have any business taking that out of out of schools.
01:01:55.380 I don't think we have any business taking the Bible out of schools because that's where that thought comes from.
01:01:59.300 I don't think we have any business taking the history of Christianity and its formative value in the society out of schools. 0.61
01:02:06.220 And I think those are fights we should definitely be fighting.
01:02:08.520 We should be fighting them in the courts.
01:02:09.800 We should be fighting them.
01:02:10.600 We should be getting sued. 1.00
01:02:12.200 Our schools should be getting sued for bringing the Bibles into class. 1.00
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01:02:53.140 but it's amiable and perfectly pleasant.
01:02:55.900 And I look forward to cigars with all of you.
01:02:58.800 afterward. Good to smoke a Mayflower
01:03:01.320 with Run Hot Fight, just as we're
01:03:03.140 shelling stuff. I don't know. Do I have anything else? I sell candles, too.
01:03:05.480 Okay, thank you very much for being here.
01:03:07.180 That's Friendly Fire. We'll see you next time.