The Michael Knowles Show - October 14, 2026


Friendly Fire: To Catch Hollywood’s Predators & Midterm White Pilling

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00:00:17.240 It could be time to slow down, though. 0.99
00:00:20.360 I know, yeah.
00:00:21.500 I mean, we're really—well, I've got to keep up.
00:00:24.160 I mean, Ben, you know, Ben, I thought I was going to tie you finally, and then you pulled ahead.
00:00:28.160 And Walsh, it's impossible.
00:00:29.240 Yeah, but you know, neither of us is catching, well, Walsh keeps cheating, he keeps having twins, so like, he's taking shortcuts, the shortcuts are bulls**t.
00:00:36.580 Yeah, I know, I know, it's like, that's totally not fair, but, what were they going after you for on the Noahide laws? 0.83
00:00:44.300 I didn't, what was the, I said that under, because yeah, because in Jewish, oh my God, 1.00
00:00:50.440 because everyone's a retard. So, so under, under Jewish theology, in Jewish theology, 1.00
00:00:56.220 the 10 commandments apply to the Jews and the prior to Jewish morality was Noah. Yeah. And so 0.79
00:01:01.380 there are seven laws called the Noahide laws. Okay. And so under Judaism, that means that
00:01:05.340 everyone who's not Jewish, you don't have to convert. You get into heaven just by keeping 0.99
00:01:08.520 those basic laws, which are very, which mirror the 10 commandments. Now, again, this doesn't mean
00:01:12.920 it's the opposite of me saying you have to convert to judaism or or quote unquote be a noahide my 0.53
00:01:17.180 point is that christians are noahides by definition yeah under jewish law because those laws are
00:01:22.980 things like don't commit idolatry don't commit blasphemy don't eat the flesh of a living animal
00:01:26.340 don't murder people don't commit theft like this is all like i finished that statement the one that
00:01:31.940 they keep quoting yeah by saying to this kid who's wearing a jesus is king t-shirt yeah i literally
00:01:36.200 say to him i'm glad you believe in jesus you should keep going to church you should get all of your
00:01:40.200 friends to go to church. America needs a Christian revival in order to survive. That's the end of my
00:01:43.940 statement. And then they're like, he hates Christians and he wants to, Tucker literally
00:01:48.360 told Jimmy Dorey, Tucker told Jimmy Dorey, I want to cut the heads off Christians.
00:01:52.540 No, only me. Only Christians. Only one. 1.00
00:01:56.100 Yeah, but I didn't. Exactly.
00:01:58.080 With that bit, I didn't even get what they were. Did Tucker really say that?
00:02:01.780 Did Tucker really say that? Yes. Yeah, he said this on Jimmy Dorey today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said,
00:02:05.760 He said the Jew, he said that Ben Shapiro, like he didn't, he implied it.
00:02:09.580 He was like, you know, because under Maimonides, Maimonides considered, I think it is what he did,
00:02:14.320 that he considered Christians idolaters, all this kind of stuff.
00:02:16.920 And therefore they would have violated the Noahide laws and therefore they would be beheaded. 0.75
00:02:20.000 Except that modern Jews don't hold by Maimonides on this. 0.84
00:02:23.500 Just like in every other religion, there are arguments internally.
00:02:27.120 And pretty much all Jews accept that Christians are not idolaters.
00:02:30.840 So this is not an issue.
00:02:32.120 No, hold on.
00:02:32.600 You're telling me a bunch of Jews disagree with each other?
00:02:34.600 I've never heard that. 0.92
00:02:35.440 I'm hearing it for the first time.
00:02:36.700 I know, crazy, crazy.
00:02:38.260 I mean, by the way, if Jews didn't disagree with each other, 0.99
00:02:40.180 then either you would all be Jews or I would be a Christian, right? 0.92
00:02:42.600 Because, like, at the beginning, it was a bunch of Jews disagreeing with each other. 0.66
00:02:44.880 Also, isn't the Talmud just rabbis disagreeing with each other?
00:02:47.960 It was weird, because whenever I see...
00:02:49.420 Yes, in the most annoying possible fashion, about total minutiae, yep.
00:02:52.060 Whenever I saw that clip, I was like, I don't know,
00:02:54.340 I can usually see at least the argument people are making,
00:02:56.780 but with that one, I was like, I don't even understand what they think the problem.
00:03:01.380 Like, I don't know, that one eluded me.
00:03:03.460 I was confused by it.
00:03:05.740 But anyway, yeah, confession is like, you know,
00:03:10.200 I'm biased, but it's kind of a masterpiece.
00:03:12.340 Do we have the trailer?
00:03:33.460 Professor.
00:03:55.200 Let me out!
00:03:57.800 You will remember your duty.
00:03:59.380 This isn't heroism! 0.97
00:04:00.880 You useless sot. 1.00
00:04:02.580 You sit there and shake because you're dependent on drink. 1.00
00:04:05.220 You're sick is all over you.
00:04:08.300 Have you ever seen a child starve to death, Professor?
00:04:13.560 No.
00:04:14.640 I have.
00:04:25.580 Hold on, you got Rob Lowe and James Franco
00:04:27.860 and you didn't offer me a part in it?
00:04:29.200 What the heck?
00:04:30.000 What the heck?
00:04:30.940 That could have been my big break.
00:04:32.580 I've been trying desperately to not invoke your acting past, Michael Knowles.
00:04:37.720 The audition tape that you sent from Yale was not salutary for you. 0.51
00:04:41.340 But you'll still have the scene where they kick the gay guy off the roof, won't it?
00:04:43.620 I'm not going to any movies where they kick gay guys off the roof.
00:04:47.500 The thing about the film is that it actually is, it takes on very, very serious issues.
00:04:52.920 And I don't want to give away too much about the film this early.
00:04:55.240 What I will say is that the cast is uniformly spectacular.
00:04:57.900 I mean, Václav Marhul, who's the director, there's a reason he was nominated for the Venice Golden Lion.
00:05:02.580 he is an unbelievable director, like an unbelievable director.
00:05:05.580 What he's able to do with the camera in a limited space
00:05:07.600 is some of the most beautiful filmmaking I've ever seen.
00:05:10.720 And then the performances,
00:05:11.940 Rob Lowe gives the performance of his career.
00:05:13.720 I think Rob would tell you that, by the way.
00:05:14.920 It's an extraordinary performance.
00:05:16.780 Like when you look at the,
00:05:17.760 like just the first couple of shots of that trailer,
00:05:20.480 it takes you a second to realize that's Rob Lowe,
00:05:22.900 which it really should, right?
00:05:25.140 I mean, like I remember when Rob said
00:05:26.580 he wanted to play the part to me and I said,
00:05:27.840 Rob, you're way too handsome for this part.
00:05:29.980 You're going to have to look like not Rob Lowe.
00:05:31.580 and he did i mean rob like totally committed he's unbelievable franco james franco is just
00:05:37.460 extraordinary in in the flick jennifer jason lee is i mean she like every performance is it's like
00:05:44.640 watching a great baseball game where you're just bringing in one reliever after another and they
00:05:48.980 all throw 100 miles an hour with a great change i mean it really is it's it's pretty it's pretty
00:05:52.920 spectacular that way so i don't want to give away kind of anything about the film beyond that
00:05:56.080 but all i will say is that it's a it's obviously a very serious flick it takes on some very very
00:06:00.480 serious questions everything from you know god to communism to materialism to art like it like it
00:06:06.000 covers a lot of ground philosophically but at its heart it really asks the question of what are the
00:06:11.640 values that man has to live for and what are you willing to sacrifice for them and i like that's
00:06:16.240 really the ben i like that it's a movie about communists interrogating and torturing people
00:06:21.400 because that ties in perfectly for our discussion about what's going to happen in the midterms this
00:06:26.460 This is Friendly Fire.
00:06:34.680 Okay, so I can't wait to see the movie.
00:06:37.740 I actually, I've not seen it yet.
00:06:39.180 I'm seeing it now for the first time.
00:06:40.220 I'm very excited to see it.
00:06:41.600 And everybody should subscribe to Daily Wire so that you can see it when the movie comes out.
00:06:45.580 Before we get to the movie, if we ever get to the movie, because we could all be rounded up before then,
00:06:51.360 midterms are not looking great.
00:06:52.820 I'm not a doomer.
00:06:53.600 I don't black pill.
00:06:54.460 I'm a glass half full kind of guy.
00:06:56.460 I'm looking at the polls. The polls were bad in August. They're getting worse. They're not
00:07:01.480 tightening. There doesn't seem to be any big shift of momentum. Calci, our friends over at
00:07:06.600 Calci now have 59% chance Democrats take the Senate. How bad is this going to be?
00:07:13.140 You want me to go first? I'll tell you. You go first, Drew. You go first.
00:07:17.280 Yeah. I tend toward optimistic, but I will say this. First, two things. One,
00:07:23.340 the polls have been wrong about everything. And they haven't been wrong by like a point. They've
00:07:27.280 been wrong 15 points and always on the same side, always in favor of the Democrats. So that's the
00:07:32.680 first thing. And we keep quoting them as if they were really had been accurate up till now. And
00:07:36.860 maybe there's been a few outliers, but that's just not true. This has been a disaster for them.
00:07:41.520 But more importantly, when you look at the individual races, they're very close. So that, 1.00
00:07:47.920 you know, I understand that the atmosphere is bad for Republicans. I understand that the Iran war
00:07:53.720 is unpopular and the gas prices are unpopular. I think there's a little bit of craziness about
00:07:59.000 the economy. I think the economy is a lot better than people say it is. And it's really weird,
00:08:02.860 like consumer attitudes are bad, but their spending is good. You know, they know that
00:08:07.920 things are going well. But I just keep looking at those individual races and they're all within
00:08:13.820 the margin of error. And so they're talking about, you know, Tallarico, they're talking about
00:08:18.660 Michigan. And when you look at them, they're talking about one or two points on polls that
00:08:22.560 have been utterly wrong. So I'm not optimistic because it's hard to be optimistic because
00:08:27.880 no one is being optimistic. You know, you'd just be kind of a crazy person out there alone. But
00:08:32.460 I'm not as pessimistic as everybody else. That makes me feel better, Ben.
00:08:37.560 Yeah, no, I actually agree pretty much with everything Drew just said. In fact,
00:08:40.620 If I were going to run it down race by race, I would say that we're certainly going to lose North Carolina, right?
00:08:44.660 North Carolina is gone.
00:08:45.740 I think that we have an uphill run in Ohio, but I always thought that we had an uphill run in Ohio because Bernie Moreno barely beat Sherrod Brown last time.
00:08:53.000 And Sherrod Brown happens to be a very durable candidate in Ohio.
00:08:55.580 So that one I think is a very rough race.
00:08:57.920 Texas, again, I just don't know that Texans in the end are going to pull the lever for a guy who has a favorite drag queen that he can name off the top of his head.
00:09:04.720 Yeah.
00:09:05.200 Or a guy who says that there are six genders or a guy who says that capitalism and white supremacy have to be defeated.
00:09:10.620 or a guy who goes to a Casey Musgraves concert where they're yelling about how F Columbus. 0.53
00:09:15.760 Like, I just, I don't know that in the end Texans are going to be able to do this.
00:09:18.960 And so, you know, as bad a candidate as I think Ken Paxton is, and I don't think he's a good candidate,
00:09:22.740 I think in the end the Texans will come to their senses,
00:09:24.740 and I would be a little surprised if Tallarico ends up winning that race,
00:09:27.420 which means that right now what you're talking about is, you know, two losses.
00:09:31.100 And then I actually, believe it or not, I'm going to be randomly optimistic about Michigan.
00:09:35.780 I think the people of Michigan are not going to send a terrorist to the actual United States on it. 0.73
00:09:39.220 And the reason I say this is because all the Kalashii markets and all the prediction markets had Abdullah El-Sayed wiping the floor with Haley Stevens, just killing her.
00:09:46.920 And then he beat her by like three votes.
00:09:49.480 And so I really think that the entire narrative in Michigan, which is that El-Sayed has sort of this endless amount of momentum and he's such an amazing – he's actually quite a terrible candidate in a normal election cycle.
00:09:59.600 This is a Democrat seat in Michigan.
00:10:00.960 It's a Democrat cycle.
00:10:02.400 The Democrat in Michigan who's replacing a Democrat in the Senate theoretically should be winning by somewhere between five and seven points.
00:10:08.740 and El-Sayed is running dead even like this entire race.
00:10:12.300 And it's not because Mike Rogers and he great shakes as a candidate.
00:10:14.460 It's just because Mike Rogers isn't a psycho who loves the Muslim Brotherhood.
00:10:17.540 And so, again, I think that I'm going to go out on a limb here
00:10:21.740 and say that El-Sayed loses that seat.
00:10:23.480 I think that Rogers is going to win that seat.
00:10:25.560 And that's my kind of one off-the-board pick.
00:10:27.700 I think that we're going to retain the seat in Iowa.
00:10:29.700 I think we're going to retain the seat in Alaska.
00:10:32.120 So if you net all of that, I think Collins is going to win in Maine
00:10:35.160 because she's a pro.
00:10:36.080 Yeah, I agree. 1.00
00:10:36.420 Whatever you think of Susan Collins, that lady knows how to win. 1.00
00:10:38.260 And so I think that at the end of the day, you know, people don't know how to read polls.
00:10:42.640 So they look at the polls and they say, El-Sayed up by one.
00:10:45.040 But the margin of error is three.
00:10:46.460 So if the margin of error is three, he's not up by one.
00:10:48.680 That just essentially means that the polls are dead heat.
00:10:51.300 And so, you know, the bottom line to me is that when I look at sort of net net, I think
00:10:54.340 the Republicans probably end up net losing one seat.
00:10:57.920 And that means that they maintain their majority in the Senate.
00:11:01.480 And so for me, I think it's where we end up.
00:11:03.580 I think it's not a great night in the House.
00:11:05.700 Fortunately, all the House districts are really, really polarized at this point.
00:11:08.440 So you really can't lose more than about 20 seats.
00:11:10.420 Yeah.
00:11:10.860 And so I think we end up losing 15, 20 seats in the House.
00:11:13.060 I think we end up maintaining the Senate.
00:11:14.480 That's my prediction right now.
00:11:15.500 And I think all of this bizarre dumerism that has suddenly cropped up seems really artificial to me.
00:11:20.760 It does, because nothing has changed.
00:11:21.900 As you say, Michael, nothing has changed in the polls for about four months.
00:11:25.160 But now we're getting all the headlines about blue wave tsunami.
00:11:28.060 Well, nothing has changed in the momentum to lead to that.
00:11:31.380 Yeah.
00:11:31.540 This is the thing about the polls, though.
00:11:33.040 They remind me of medicine in the Victorian era.
00:11:36.920 You know, Anthony Trollope had a character in one of his books called Dr. Philgrave because the doctors would come and kill you.
00:11:44.020 And yet people kept calling the doctors because they were the only information they had.
00:11:46.900 And that's the way I feel about the polls.
00:11:48.360 I just feel that they don't work anymore.
00:11:50.100 I feel that the iPhones basically destroyed them and we're still quoting them as if they were gospel.
00:11:56.280 And I just don't think I just don't buy it.
00:11:58.480 I just don't buy it.
00:11:59.440 And so I'm even, you know, I'm hopeful, I'm not optimistic, but I'm hopeful that it might even be better than what Ben is saying, where Ben is almost exactly what I would have guessed myself.
00:12:10.680 But I'm just hopeful that we could be wrong on the other side.
00:12:13.200 You know, I was talking to a pal the other night who made this point on the polarization, which leads in a little bit to why some of the polls maybe are more dubious.
00:12:23.620 But we say that Trump has polarized politics.
00:12:27.200 That is almost literally true.
00:12:29.800 I think we don't even appreciate what that means.
00:12:31.360 Like, it's like a bunch of magnet filament, and then you put a giant magnet in there.
00:12:35.320 Like, he has, over the last dozen years, he has reshaped the Republican Party.
00:12:40.280 So all those little factions, the Tea Party, the Chamber of Commerce, the neocons, whatever,
00:12:43.980 they're all now just kind of pro-Trump.
00:12:47.440 That is what defines the Republican Party.
00:12:49.760 It's not policy.
00:12:50.820 Do we like tariffs?
00:12:51.940 some days, but if Trump doesn't like tariffs, we don't like tariffs. And do we want foreign
00:12:55.600 intervention? Some days, but some days we don't. And it's just about Trump. And therefore he's also
00:13:00.380 remade the Democrat party. All it means to be a Democrat today is to oppose Trump. You could
00:13:07.100 totally foresee a world in which the Democrats were gung-ho about intervention in Iran, where
00:13:11.960 they were angry that Trump did not intervene in Iran. It's just, or that they wanted tariffs or
00:13:16.280 that whatever, you know, it's just about Trump. So when you remove the magnet, if you were to
00:13:20.540 remove the magnet, you know, if Trump does kind of exit stage left at some point, you're going to
00:13:24.540 get total chaos in there. But to me, what you, what you are seeing is like an actual polarization
00:13:29.880 of the politics. And so I just think some of the old models are maybe a little less reliable.
00:13:35.500 One thing I will say here is that when you look at the, when you look at the, sorry, one quick
00:13:39.600 comment here. And that is that this, it's, it's obviously a truism that, that elections come down
00:13:45.100 and turn out, of course. And these are all very close elections. Every single race that we just
00:13:48.580 mentioned, including Ohio, by the way, is within that margin of error, which means that the people
00:13:52.760 on the right, and they are there, who are telling people to stay home, or that their candidates are
00:13:57.320 bad, or don't show up, those people are the opponents. They are the problem, okay? When you
00:14:02.820 have, and I'll name them, Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly standing for Abdul El-Sayed, like literally
00:14:08.180 doing that. Wait, is Megyn pro Abdul too? I didn't know that. She literally came out, she came out
00:14:12.560 yesterday, and she said that the reason Abdul El-Sayed is winning is because he's anti-Israel
00:14:16.100 because he obviously cares about America more.
00:14:18.820 And Mike Rogers is just a neocon.
00:14:20.780 Okay, like, I'm sorry,
00:14:22.140 but just eating from Tucker Carlson's waistband
00:14:25.760 is not going to earn you any points.
00:14:28.080 And, you know, if you don't like Megan's opinion,
00:14:31.320 wait for Tucker to change his,
00:14:32.720 and then about five minutes afterward, 1.00
00:14:33.780 Megan will change hers in favor of whatever Tucker has just said.
00:14:36.760 But Tucker literally came out and said-
00:14:38.960 Have they endorsed, though, or are they, like-
00:14:40.280 Yes, I mean, Tucker did.
00:14:41.420 Tucker said you'd have to, he said,
00:14:43.300 with a gun to my head, I would not vote for Mike Rogers.
00:14:45.660 Wow.
00:14:46.100 I mean, I don't care what you think about Mike Rogers. 0.98
00:14:50.520 El-Sayed in the Senate.
00:14:51.960 I don't care what you think about Israel.
00:14:53.240 El-Sayed in the Senate is a disaster area.
00:14:55.180 Even if you hate Israel, El-Sayed in the Senate
00:14:57.720 with the Democrats in charge of the Senate 0.54
00:15:00.180 is a disaster area for all your other priorities.
00:15:03.080 It's crazy.
00:15:04.340 And so the fact that there are people
00:15:05.260 who are legitimately telling people not to vote
00:15:07.040 or that the Republicans,
00:15:08.020 listen, I don't like Ken Paxton very much as a candidate.
00:15:09.780 I think Ken Paxton is a pretty awful candidate.
00:15:11.700 You know what?
00:15:12.080 You should go vote for Ken Paxton
00:15:13.080 because the opponent is James Tallarico 1.00
00:15:14.700 who wants to trans the children, right?
00:15:16.980 In the end- 0.99
00:15:17.300 Yeah, he wasn't a bad prosecutor, either.
00:15:20.040 You know, he's a bad candidate,
00:15:21.140 but he's not a bad prosecutor.
00:15:21.920 And he's a political survivor, Paxton.
00:15:24.000 But even, listen, even if I,
00:15:25.280 even if you guys are more pro-Paxton than I am,
00:15:27.280 because again, you know,
00:15:28.040 I think that the allegations of, you know,
00:15:29.980 personal stuff and corruption, like whatever.
00:15:31.840 But that doesn't matter to me,
00:15:32.980 because in the end,
00:15:34.020 the only two choices before me,
00:15:35.340 if I'm sitting in Texas,
00:15:36.220 are Ken Paxton, who will vote with the Republicans,
00:15:38.600 or James Tallarico, who again,
00:15:40.660 wants to trans the children.
00:15:42.020 Like these are the choices in front of you.
00:15:43.980 And in Michigan, you have a very, very normie Republican in Mike Rogers. 0.71
00:15:47.580 I mean, he's like the most normie normie you've ever normied versus a guy who literally is an adjunct member of the Muslim Brotherhood and also wants to trans the kids. 0.77
00:15:56.840 So just in case you were missing it, he's a Muslim Brotherhood fellow traveler who wants to trans the kids.
00:16:01.020 And part of the Republican Party is like, hey, that sounds good to me because at least he's not a neocon like Mike Rogers. 0.94
00:16:04.980 You got to screw loose.
00:16:05.720 I'm sorry you do.
00:16:07.160 Do you think it'll matter?
00:16:08.020 I think the same thing is true.
00:16:08.940 I think the same thing is true with the, you know, the Israel thing, though, with people saying, like Meghan saying that, you know, at least he doesn't want to support Israel.
00:16:18.040 You know, Trump didn't go into Iran for Israel.
00:16:21.560 It's the last thing he did.
00:16:22.840 You know, he may be wrong.
00:16:24.820 I wish he had gotten out earlier.
00:16:26.220 I wish he had gotten out before the midterms because I don't think he's going to actually.
00:16:30.020 Well, I won't say that.
00:16:31.380 I'm hopeful he might, but I don't think he right now it looks like he's going to overturn the regime.
00:16:35.800 But still, he's obviously had a vision of what he was doing.
00:16:40.420 He thinks that they want a nuclear weapon.
00:16:42.140 He thinks they were close.
00:16:43.000 He went in to fight with them.
00:16:43.960 I don't even understand what these people are talking about anymore, except that they're
00:16:47.240 either so twisted with hatred of the Jews that they can't see their own good, or they're
00:16:52.440 just trying to find a niche to get their clicks in, you know, because the Republican Party
00:16:57.400 is actually kind of on the rise in a lot of ways, even though it's struggling in this
00:17:01.940 moment.
00:17:02.740 The country is moving right.
00:17:04.380 I don't think there's any question about it. And I think that the Democrats are actually shooting themselves in the foot, even as they win this round. But, you know, I just I just think people have become completely irrational. I'm not sure I remember this kind of irrationality recently in an electorate.
00:17:21.640 people saying the economy is terrible when it's nowhere near as bad as it was under Biden,
00:17:25.980 that inflation is bad when it's nowhere near as bad as it was under Biden. You know, the border
00:17:30.440 is now no longer a problem. All of these things have happened. And yes, I admit that the Senate
00:17:35.280 is like, I don't even know what they do for a living. But I think Trump has been a successful
00:17:40.840 president all in all. And I just don't understand where this kind of, you know, you call it
00:17:44.960 doomerism, just this kind of depression that things are all in disarray. It just doesn't
00:17:48.980 seem right to me. Well, it's not just in the US. I mean, you look at the UK, the fact that they
00:17:53.880 seem to trade out their prime minister every six weeks now, it seems to suggest maybe there's a
00:17:59.860 structural issue. Like I can go through issue by issue over the first and a half, one and a half
00:18:05.800 years of the Trump second term and say, hey guys, look, inflation really has improved. And it's
00:18:10.600 spiked a little bit recently because of some pressures from the Iran war, but it's way better
00:18:14.600 than it was under Biden. It had come down and actually guys, look, immigration is pretty good.
00:18:18.100 We've gotten rid of 3 million foreign-born people and closed the border and this, that, and the other thing. 0.92
00:18:23.260 But there's still this feeling that no matter what good has been done in the first year and a half, it's not enough.
00:18:29.340 That maybe structurally there's this issue.
00:18:30.960 Even on the Iran war, yes, obviously the state of Israel wanted the Iran war.
00:18:36.180 But other people did too.
00:18:37.400 Other Gulf states did too.
00:18:38.500 Saudi Arabia did too.
00:18:39.540 Trump has been pretty tough on Iran over the years.
00:18:42.080 He did kill their big general during the first term.
00:18:44.640 So, like, it just seems to me there's something deeper there.
00:18:47.260 and people are scapegoating or pointing to one issue or another.
00:18:50.720 But is it that there is a national malaise
00:18:53.820 that is actually bigger than the parties or politicians?
00:18:56.820 Yes.
00:18:57.280 So I think the answer there, by the way, is-
00:18:59.000 I think in England, it's a constant migration though. 0.65
00:19:00.720 I think in England, it's just they can't stop the government 1.00
00:19:02.880 from bringing these people in 0.96
00:19:04.000 and they don't want them in.
00:19:05.620 And I think that's the thing that's kind of confusing
00:19:07.900 about Trump is he actually stopped them.
00:19:10.200 I think that there's something else going on.
00:19:11.760 I think that Western governments
00:19:13.260 have spent the last several decades
00:19:15.120 telling a gigantic lie
00:19:16.800 And that lie is we can solve all your problems if you elect us.
00:19:20.460 And it's legitimately members of the right and also the left.
00:19:23.900 And again, called me old fashioned and fuddy duddy, although it's a little bit hard to
00:19:27.040 say that with regard to Reagan, since I was four years old when he left office.
00:19:30.540 But Reagan at least ran on the principle that the government was not there to effectively
00:19:33.840 solve your problems.
00:19:34.620 The government was there to actually get in the way most of the time.
00:19:37.480 And I will say that the constant promise that is now made that the government, if you elect
00:19:42.180 me, I will solve.
00:19:43.440 I'm only I can solve, as President Trump put it, or Barack Obama.
00:19:46.600 suggesting that only he could solve or Joe Biden saying only he could solve. I have a dirty secret
00:19:51.320 for you, folks. None of these people can solve your problems. They can't. The best that they
00:19:54.700 can do is marginally change things. But that's about it because the system is built for gridlock
00:19:59.000 because thank God, by the way, it's built for gridlock because most of the things that gridlock
00:20:02.360 is maintaining are good, like private property and free speech. But the reality is that whenever
00:20:07.540 you have people who have taken the drug of this government will save me and fix all of my problems,
00:20:13.300 the government will inevitably come up short and then people get dissatisfied and then they just
00:20:16.740 flip over to the other side so if you wonder why the pendulum is swinging so wildly it's because
00:20:20.420 both sides are making promises that they cannot keep and so and so i have no expectation that in
00:20:26.460 the aftermath of president trump there's going to be a permanent shift to the right i think what's
00:20:30.080 likely to happen is that people are going to be dissatisfied with president trump as they
00:20:33.440 currently are even though as you say drew i think overall he's been a successful president but i
00:20:38.220 think that a good example of this is inflation okay the president made a promise that is not
00:20:41.680 fulfillable. The president said, I am going to reverse the prices. He said, I'm going to bring
00:20:46.360 inflation down. And what he meant by that was the rate of increase in inflation will be brought down
00:20:50.600 to the norm. How people read that was the prices are going to go back to 2019 levels. Well, the
00:20:54.740 prices can't go back to 2019 levels absent to recession, right? But if you believe that the
00:20:58.500 government can actively just magically fix all of your problems, and then anybody comes up short,
00:21:03.040 you turn to the other guy who's also standing over here going, hey, look at me, I can solve
00:21:06.240 all your problems too. And it turns out that the vast majority of problems in life are not things
00:21:11.640 that can be solved at the federal level.
00:21:13.240 Some of them can be solved at the local level.
00:21:14.540 Some of them can't even be solved by government at all.
00:21:16.220 And they need to be solved in your own personal life.
00:21:18.760 But if you put your entire faith in politics
00:21:21.720 and not in God and not in your family
00:21:23.880 and not in values
00:21:24.840 and not in your personal ability to make choice,
00:21:27.800 then you're very likely to be, you know,
00:21:29.720 randomly angry at the people in power
00:21:31.540 until you get randomly angry at the next people in power.
00:21:33.940 Well, I'll get to, you know, it's all logical.
00:21:36.700 It's all logical, but I need to explain something
00:21:38.300 that is less logical even than that.
00:21:40.560 And that is how you buy a mattress.
00:21:42.140 It is illogical how you buy a mattress.
00:21:43.800 You walk into a mattress store.
00:21:45.080 You lie down on the mattress for like five seconds,
00:21:47.800 fully clothed, and then some sort of salesman
00:21:49.980 stares at you, and then you're like,
00:21:51.360 hey, this will probably suffice
00:21:52.240 for the next 20 years of sleep.
00:21:53.620 This is stupid.
00:21:54.400 You should not do this.
00:21:55.200 Instead, you should use Helix the way that I do.
00:21:57.880 What you do is you go take their sleep quiz.
00:21:59.480 And I got the Firm But Breathable mattress,
00:22:00.900 and I've been sleeping really well on that thing
00:22:02.480 because it was made for me.
00:22:03.980 And there's literally nothing else in your life,
00:22:05.360 by the way, where you actually consume it that way.
00:22:07.360 Normally, you go in, you actually try on the clothes,
00:22:09.360 make sure that they fit,
00:22:10.100 or you get your latte personalized to you,
00:22:12.260 well, you should do that with the thing
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00:22:48.640 Sorry, Ben, you made this reference.
00:22:49.960 I got to respond.
00:22:50.860 I want to respond to Ben.
00:22:51.960 Wait, because I agree.
00:22:54.260 Even though I agree with everything you said about the government and the state of the government and the promises they're making, I don't think that's what's bothering people.
00:23:01.000 I think that there is something really sick and weird in our culture, and everybody senses it.
00:23:05.380 I mean, you know, we're not debating. We're not debating, say, whether to be more tolerant to gay people. We're debating whether to butcher our children so that they can pretend they're an opposite sex. You know, we're not debating over whether there should be a little bit more welfare or a little less. We're debating with socialists. I mean, socialists like, you know, what is Bernie Sanders ever, ever, ever accomplished in this life? You know, what has he ever done for anybody, anywhere? Nothing. And yet he's a rock star. You know, the people love him. 1.00
00:23:32.900 we're debating with people who are talking absolute nonsense. There's something in the
00:23:36.720 culture that is just out of whack, you know? And I think the fact that, you know, we overturned
00:23:43.560 Roe v. Wade, which was great, and now we're debating with people whether you can kill a child
00:23:48.540 up until the moment of birth and even after the moment of birth, there's just something off. And
00:23:54.380 I do think it has to do with religion. I do think it has to do with God. But I think it also has to
00:23:58.640 do with the cohesion of thought that has left Western culture and that did exist. I mean,
00:24:04.760 even in times like the 60s, you know, when things were all turmoil and there was all this youth
00:24:09.820 movement that was changing everything, there was still a kind of core of an establishment. I don't
00:24:15.180 think that establishment exists anymore. And I think people just feel lost in space.
00:24:18.900 Yeah. And I think a lot of the issues do pertain to kids, like transing the kids. James Tallarico,
00:24:24.460 He was asked what he most loves, and his answer was trans kids.
00:24:28.400 When he said that, you know what I wanted to say to him?
00:24:31.100 He used to arrest you for saying that.
00:24:32.340 No, I wanted to say, hey, Mr. Tallarico, why don't you take a seat right over there?
00:24:36.920 And actually, coincidentally, we can invite on now our friend Chris Hansen, who can take a screen box right over there.
00:24:45.320 A man who needs no introduction whatsoever.
00:24:47.960 Obviously, many people have watched his shows over the years from NBC to Catch a Predator
00:24:52.240 all the way up to his documentaries and his show on True Blue, which you can subscribe to now.
00:24:56.940 And you can even see him, sort of, in the man of Robert Pattinson in this new movie.
00:25:04.520 Is it a biopic or is it a complete work of fiction?
00:25:07.540 It is.
00:25:08.400 Gentlemen, thank you for having me.
00:25:09.720 Good to see you all.
00:25:10.520 It is, Michael, a complete work of fiction.
00:25:13.380 Twisted, dark.
00:25:14.340 Even the director has said it's a fever dream.
00:25:17.320 So I'm not sure what the motive was here, but I can tell you that it's about as realistic as a Scooby-Doo cartoon movie.
00:25:24.680 And the only thing it shows you that's realistic is the use of my name and probably about four or five key phrases that I've used over the years.
00:25:33.300 So, Chris, you and I just sat down.
00:25:35.380 We have a Mike Land coming out this weekend.
00:25:37.740 It'll be coming out on Sunday, so set your timers on YouTube for that.
00:25:40.860 Gentlemen, Drew and Ben, you did not get the chance to chat with Chris for the last two hours.
00:25:45.960 Have you seen the movie yet?
00:25:47.880 Are you planning to see the movie?
00:25:49.240 Do you have any interest in seeing the movie?
00:25:51.140 I haven't seen it, but what I'd like to know about it, Chris, is there have been a lot, a lot of movies trying to normalize sex with children.
00:26:00.180 I mean, there have been a lot of them.
00:26:01.220 There's a sizable handful of movies.
00:26:02.940 Is this one of those, or are they actually maintaining some kind of morality?
00:26:07.380 Well, no, I think it's a case of weaponized empathy where, you know, you're you're made to or they attempt to make you feel sorry for the predators, the people who are exploiting the children.
00:26:19.480 And they raise questions and they portray myself and my staff as, you know, ratings, obsessed, maniacal people.
00:26:29.360 And they're just there's just no possible link to what we did then and what we do now.
00:26:35.960 And the irony is that we've been completely transparent about this from the very first To Catch a Predator episode and continuing through the takedown episodes that are on my streamer True Blue today.
00:26:46.500 People can say, I either like it, I think it's fascinating, I think it's important, or I don't like it, whatever they want.
00:26:51.880 But we've been absolutely transparent about what we do since the very beginning 22 years ago.
00:26:58.320 And I think it raises questions.
00:27:00.380 I mean, what's the motive here?
00:27:02.120 Is this just Hollywood saying, guys, guys, guys, let's do something that's really different
00:27:05.980 and weird, and we'll paint up Robert Pattinson like a vampire and have him imitate Chris
00:27:12.300 Hansen for two hours?
00:27:13.440 I mean, I went to go see the movie with my wife in New York, and we brought a crew along,
00:27:17.580 and I interviewed moviegoers afterwards, and they were equally as confused.
00:27:21.260 Now, obviously, I may not be objective about this, but the way I look at it, I mean, it's
00:27:26.860 It's an insult to the thousands of men and women who go out every day in this country, in law enforcement and in many other areas, to try to protect children from predators.
00:27:38.620 I mean, that's the only way you can look at this.
00:27:41.900 Chris, I'm wondering, you know, when I saw the sort of run up, one of the things I think that confused people is what was your involvement, if any, in the making of the film?
00:27:51.640 Because I think that people assumed that because they were using your name, that meant that somehow you were involved in the making of the film in some way.
00:27:58.620 Were you involved at all?
00:27:59.620 Not at all, Ben.
00:28:00.580 Ben, you raise a great question.
00:28:02.500 And I saw your commentary on it when you were talking about it.
00:28:06.580 And we heard that this movie was in the works.
00:28:10.740 And a colleague of mine involved in my two podcasts had reached out to the director, Lance Oppenheim, to say, hey, what's going on here?
00:28:20.680 Are you going to reach out to Hanson? Is this movie scripted or can we take a look at a rough cut?
00:28:25.520 And Lance Oppenheim responded something to the effect of, well, the studio is going to reach out.
00:28:30.980 But we're big fans of Chris and this is a love letter to Chris Hanson.
00:28:35.020 Well, if this is a love letter, I'd hate to get a poison pen letter from this director, for God's sake.
00:28:40.460 you know it's uh they didn't reach out officially until may 27th of this year when they shared
00:28:47.980 a partial um you know video trailer of the movie and they essentially said look we'd like you to
00:28:54.300 support this we'd like to buy some advertising on your platforms true blue and the podcast predators
00:28:58.860 i've caught and have a seat with chris hansen and uh we hope you like it well you know at that point
00:29:04.540 i'm saying well i'd like to see the movie before i promote it and they went back and forth and back
00:29:09.020 and forth and and we we don't we can't show you yet but we will we didn't have to come to you
00:29:14.380 because it's a fictional movie and they say there's a graphic up at the beginning in the end
00:29:18.940 that it is a work of fiction the director himself has termed it um you know a fever dream version
00:29:25.420 of reality but my question is if that's the case why do they have to use my name image and like
00:29:31.500 yeah well this is my question yeah chris this is my question they did yeah i have a couple lawyers
00:29:37.660 looking at it and yeah i mean because like as a lawyer putting on my lawyer yeah i gotta say that
00:29:42.200 typically you know you're a public figure obviously but the standard is actual malice but
00:29:46.900 it seems like this pretty much fits the bill of actual malice and them saying this is a fictional
00:29:51.460 story where they're clearly using your name and also your career path and then the name of your
00:29:55.760 show and all of it and then saying oh yeah but by the way it's like a fever dream fiction that just
00:30:00.000 seems like a quick way for them to sort of backfill legal liability in order to escape the
00:30:05.500 liability that i mean like it seems to me that you have a pretty obvious i don't mean to counsel
00:30:09.000 you legally here and i probably go ahead i'm happy i'm getting advice from a lot of different people
00:30:13.000 on this ben and i mean it seems like you should sue the living hell out of them is what it seems
00:30:16.740 like i mean it seems like if the entire film is predicated on the idea that you are that the real
00:30:20.820 predator here is you because you're pretty you're you're a predator against the pedophiles because
00:30:25.300 all you want is ratings and so you're abusing them for your own sick purposes then i don't
00:30:29.780 understand how that would not be actual malice well correct but here's what i didn't want to do
00:30:33.840 And again, you know, I've been getting a lot of advice on this from lawyers who are very practiced in this particular field.
00:30:39.280 But what I didn't want to do, Ben, is make this the movie Chris Hansen doesn't want you to see, you know.
00:30:44.780 And I think that's part of the reason why they they conducted themselves this way.
00:30:48.520 But, you know, when you look at this and you ask yourself, what's the motive here?
00:30:54.020 Why would they do this?
00:30:55.620 And then you have to consider that this is an industry, Hollywood, that was ruled by one of the most prolific predators to walk the planet.
00:31:03.840 for two decades. Harvey Weinstein. So, you know, what's the mindset of some of the people? I have
00:31:08.520 no issue with Robert Pattinson. Look, he's a popular actor and he gets paid to do a gig and
00:31:12.960 probably didn't give it any thought at all. But, you know, where's the consideration for
00:31:17.100 all the advocacy work that I do, that my team does? All the support for National Center for
00:31:23.600 Missing and Exploited Children, Child USA, Child Rescue Coalition, the National Center for Victims
00:31:28.120 of crime. This just isn't a television show to me. This is advocacy work where we expose bad people
00:31:35.140 who are trying to exploit children. So to twist that is just, it's really, really hard for me to
00:31:42.240 digest. This is a genuine trend in Hollywood films. You know, Nolte, John Nolte over at Breitbart has
00:31:48.820 written several pieces about it, just listing the movies in which child predators, you know,
00:31:53.960 pedophiles are shown maybe not as good people, but as sympathetic people, as sympathetic actors
00:32:00.660 who just have a kind of a problem. The New York Times has run repeated stories saying pedophilia
00:32:07.020 is not evil. It's just a mindset. It's just a kind of, you know, maybe it may be a sickness if
00:32:12.500 they push it that far. This is an actual thing that's going on in Hollywood, which is not that
00:32:17.520 strange, because as you say, Harvey Weinstein was a king there. But Harvey Weinstein is in some
00:32:23.760 ways the least of it, the use of child actors and underage actors has been well documented.
00:32:29.620 And every time it comes to the surface in the trade papers and variety, people start to sweat
00:32:34.760 and then it disappears because they don't want to sacrifice the ad revenue. So this is a problem
00:32:40.160 in Hollywood. It's one of the most undercover stories there are. I think if anybody ever blew
00:32:44.500 the top off it, it would destroy the industry as it well deserves. And I just think you got caught
00:32:49.000 up in that thresher. That's all. Well, I think you're probably right. But we see it across 1.00
00:32:53.340 the board here. I mean, we did a documentary for True Blue on Roblox, the wildly popular
00:32:58.700 gaming platform. And it's got characters that look harmless. They look like Lego characters.
00:33:04.640 And it's a multi-billion dollar publicly traded company. And time after time, we found examples
00:33:11.100 where predators were posing as children, trying to exploit children, where meetings were set up,
00:33:15.820 where contacts were made, and kids were met in person and taken to other states and sexually
00:33:21.040 assaulted and some very bad stuff, including some involvement from that 764 nihilistic
00:33:26.400 gang.
00:33:27.400 And yet, Roblox will not even sit down and talk to me about it.
00:33:30.820 They implemented some security changes, most of which can be worked around, and they don't
00:33:37.320 want to do anything meaningful that will lessen engagement, because lower engagement means
00:33:43.560 lower profits for a publicly traded company.
00:33:46.520 And it's a shame to see this because, you know, they could have law enforcement on their platform running stings that would, you know, really have impact.
00:33:56.140 But they won't do it because they don't want to impact engagement.
00:33:59.820 Yeah, I did wonder, you know, this is a trend you just see in politics for the last 20 years or more, which is that these writers, I don't know, it seems like they took one introductory writing class.
00:34:11.460 And the only takeaway they had from it was, hey, gee, I have a crazy idea.
00:34:15.720 what if we made the bad guy the good guy
00:34:17.400 and the good guy the bad guy?
00:34:18.880 And so I think there's a little bit of that too,
00:34:21.100 just a kind of incompetence.
00:34:22.880 But I don't want to downplay the perfidy
00:34:25.580 and nefarious nature of Hollywood
00:34:28.080 that Drew, you just mentioned.
00:34:31.080 Yeah, the story really bugs me
00:34:33.060 because it keeps coming up
00:34:34.080 and it keeps getting close to being exposed
00:34:36.320 and then always disappears again.
00:34:37.980 And I just think that it's a lot of,
00:34:39.280 you know, I'm not paranoid about it.
00:34:40.460 I just think it's something that happens in Hollywood.
00:34:42.600 Yeah, Chris, maybe what Drew's doing is,
00:34:45.100 maybe what drew is doing here is suggesting your next, your, your next, uh, your next mission,
00:34:48.980 right? That you could actually uncover it. It's Hanson, Hanson versus Hollywood. Yeah. Hanson
00:34:53.800 versus the discussion about this movie has, has been a first good step on that. I mean,
00:34:59.780 um, ironically, I participated in another documentary called I am Chris Hanson,
00:35:05.260 which is more of a personal profile. And that was underway before we even found out about this
00:35:10.140 movie. So that'll be coming out soon and, and correct some of the record there. But I mean,
00:35:13.600 And, you know, Michael, to your point, I mean, is this just people in Hollywood saying, guys, guys, guys, what can we do?
00:35:19.080 What would be weird?
00:35:19.960 What could, you know, A24 make besides, you know, a vampire movie or something?
00:35:26.040 And we'll make Robert Pattinson look like a vampire and play Chris Hansen.
00:35:29.280 You know, and they engage in this mental masturbation where they make themselves feel like geniuses and creative, you know, artists.
00:35:35.660 And they're smarter than everybody else.
00:35:37.520 But, you know, again, I'm just a working reporter.
00:35:39.540 I'm not sophisticated in the ways of Hollywood, but I just don't understand the purpose of it.
00:35:44.700 And when I watched the film, I mean, these people were freaked out that my wife and I were in the back row watching this and walked out.
00:35:50.880 And we had television crews there and we were recording interviews with moviegoers.
00:35:55.240 And most of the viewers didn't get it either.
00:35:58.280 I mean, I just don't think it was that great of a movie.
00:36:00.980 It's three weeks into it and it's probably going to be gone.
00:36:03.660 I mean, my biggest fear, honestly, is that it won't last in the theaters for 30 days because we bought ad time to run in front of the movie in every theater where I come out in the kitchen and say, have a seat in the theater.
00:36:14.840 There's something you need to know.
00:36:16.000 This very important work continues every day on my streamer, True Blue, and go watch the Takedown Predator series there.
00:36:23.140 I love the idea of Hanson versus Hollywood, and you set up a sting house there, and then there's immediately a 350-car pileup because of just all the movie executives and casting directors.
00:36:33.760 You say, no, no, guys, slow down.
00:36:35.500 At least be orderly as you try to abuse various children.
00:36:40.200 Yeah, I agree.
00:36:41.300 Chris, you mentioned it a couple times, but the streaming service is True Blue.
00:36:46.120 How can people subscribe to it?
00:36:47.880 People can go to WatchTrueBlue.com. 0.59
00:36:49.800 It's T-R-U-B-L-U.
00:36:50.980 You can subscribe.
00:36:51.640 We also have a YouTube channel of the same name.
00:36:54.140 We have a lot of important content and documentaries.
00:36:56.780 I mentioned the Roblox.
00:36:57.760 We just put something out on Sextortion.
00:36:59.620 People can access that.
00:37:01.160 And, of course, the Takedown Predator Investigative Series.
00:37:03.660 New episodes drop every single Thursday.
00:37:05.840 The podcast, Predators I've Caught, and Have a Seat with Chris Hansen, wherever you get your podcasts.
00:37:10.380 And on the Have a Seat with Chris Hansen YouTube channel.
00:37:13.460 And this Sunday, you can check out Michael and Chris Hansen.
00:37:16.660 Along with a new series we're debuting.
00:37:19.240 I'm not going to give a date.
00:37:20.360 It's a brand new series.
00:37:21.180 It's one of the most exciting series I've ever come up with.
00:37:25.360 I'll leave it at that, though.
00:37:26.580 Stay tuned for that.
00:37:27.380 Chris, thank you very much for being here.
00:37:30.260 Good to see you.
00:37:30.780 Gentlemen, thank you, Michael.
00:37:31.860 I appreciate it.
00:37:32.720 Nice to meet you, Chris.
00:37:33.520 Now, when your work truck dies, three to five business days is not a business plan, okay?
00:37:39.080 Your crew needs to work.
00:37:40.280 Your customers want the job finished.
00:37:42.060 Neither is particularly interested in your banker's paperwork.
00:37:45.360 So what are you going to do?
00:37:46.760 Well, you know, whenever I need money, I just call up Ben or Drew.
00:37:49.280 I say, guys, come on, please.
00:37:51.180 Please, I'm up for an ambassadorship.
00:37:52.920 No, no, no, we'll get to that story in a second.
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00:38:33.960 I just alluded to it. I don't want to spend too much time on it. But is this kind of scandal, controversy with Kimberly Guilfoyle? She's the ambassador to Greece. She was apparently taking money, hitting people up, shaking people down. It was enough that apparently they're booting her out of the job. So says the new press secretary, Katie Zachariah. What is going on with this story? Is this a real scandal? What's the deal?
00:39:00.920 I mean, it is it is a scandal, but only because it's a scandal, I would say, in like the true European monarchy sense, because the only reason that Kimberly Guilfoyle is even in Greece is because she was the once paramour of Don Jr.
00:39:13.620 And he decided that he didn't want to date her anymore.
00:39:15.800 And so they're like, we must send her off to the precincts, like a Roman, like a Roman, a Roman figure who's being thrown off to Gaul or something.
00:39:24.880 You need to go off to Greece and you need to be the ambassador to Greece just so that you're not here, so that I can, you know, like, you know, find a person I like and get married, which Don Jr. actually did.
00:39:33.820 And so she ends up as the ambassador to Greece, where she then promptly begins asking people for monies that she can help the Trump administration for appointments.
00:39:42.540 And, you know, like, here is the only thing that I will say a couple of things.
00:39:46.760 One, she's going to have the most lit memoirs of anybody alive.
00:39:49.600 She was married to Gavin Newsom.
00:39:50.900 She dated Don Jr. for years, and then she ends up being kicked out of the administration for corruption in Greece and was also a party girl in Greece.
00:39:56.720 So those are great memoirs.
00:39:58.080 Like, that's a legit memoir, and whoever signs her should be very – like, yeah, exactly.
00:40:02.400 That's very readable.
00:40:03.480 Number two, here is the problem.
00:40:06.300 The actual problem is that if the administration is going to pop the top on corruption inside the administration, we are going to be in for a world of hurt.
00:40:13.620 took. I'm just going to put it out there that corruption in this administration is not a rare
00:40:18.700 thing. I think that it's pretty clear there are a bunch of people who have been clearing the bag
00:40:23.960 inside the administration. And Kimberly Guilfoyle's great sin is that she was doing it for chump change. 1.00
00:40:28.700 And so get ready. If the Democrats take the Senate and the House, then we are going to hear about 1.00
00:40:33.860 this nonstop for the next two years. And at least 57% of it will be meritorious. 43% of it will just
00:40:40.400 be a bunch of nonsense and 53% will be totally meritorious. It's funny because I mean, I had a
00:40:45.220 similar reaction on what the Democrats are going to do, but I actually had the opposite reaction
00:40:49.860 with the Guilfoyle scandal, which is, okay, they catch her and she was hitting up some donor for
00:40:53.980 money or whatever. And you would imagine, especially because Kim Guilfoyle is pretty 0.50
00:40:58.700 close to the Trump family and the administration. She was a big Fox News host. You would expect that 0.61
00:41:03.780 they would kind of drag this out or whatever. The fact that the White House immediately said,
00:41:08.220 all right, you know what? That's no good. She's out. To me, that actually was a mark in favor of
00:41:13.660 anti-corruption. That was a mark in favor of saying, nah, it's too bad. We're not going to
00:41:16.820 have it. And so you always hear insinuations about different administrations, both parties.
00:41:21.340 But I don't know. I actually haven't seen a lot of evidence that the administration has engaged in
00:41:26.280 anything illegal or, you know, I don't know. You'd expect the Democrats have had all their
00:41:31.520 guns trained on this guy for 12 years now. The fact that they've come up short, to me,
00:41:36.400 I'm a little more skeptical of those insinuations of corruption.
00:41:39.700 I have to, I hate to say this.
00:41:41.420 I hate to agree with Knowles on this because he's Knowles.
00:41:43.760 But, you know, I have to say that they have been after, they haven't been after Trump for 16 years.
00:41:48.960 They've been up after him since I was a little boy.
00:41:51.520 They have been trying to get Trump on some kind of corruption.
00:41:54.760 And they get these little things that everybody does, especially in New York, you know.
00:41:58.500 There'll be some little, you know, violation.
00:42:00.800 And I see that people are making big money, you know, who are surrounding the administration.
00:42:07.540 But I haven't seen anybody sell anything.
00:42:09.760 And that, to me, is where the corruption comes in.
00:42:11.560 You take money.
00:42:12.460 If you're not in the administration, if you're a relative of Trump's or something like that, and you're making money, the question is, are you selling something that belongs to the people?
00:42:20.800 And, you know, Kimberly Guilfoyle, I've met her a number of times.
00:42:24.820 I've always liked her.
00:42:25.620 She's a sweet person.
00:42:27.320 It did sound to me, reading the transcripts, that maybe she stepped over the line.
00:42:32.100 And I think that that's why, you know, Rubio just reacted immediately.
00:42:35.700 It was like, that's no good.
00:42:37.100 We don't want to see that anymore.
00:42:38.420 And I have to agree with Knowles.
00:42:40.060 I think there's a little bit of sensitivity to this.
00:42:42.580 I will totally change my mind.
00:42:44.280 Unlike Knowles, I will totally change my mind if it is proving that he's corrupt.
00:42:49.140 But I just, I see, I think that Trump is careless about money.
00:42:53.360 That is to say, I think he doesn't care what it looks like.
00:42:56.280 I think he doesn't care if his kids make a zillion dollars tossing his name around.
00:43:02.160 But I don't think he's been like the Biden family, which was essentially a business selling the people's goods to anybody who paid them.
00:43:10.160 I'm not seeing that happen.
00:43:11.900 So I'll believe it if they prove it.
00:43:13.580 But right now, I think it's a lot of rhetoric.
00:43:15.140 Also, speaking of selling, Drew, I think you're selling a book.
00:43:18.040 Am I correct about that?
00:43:19.580 I am selling a book.
00:43:20.500 I would like just a minute to explain why I keep talking about this book.
00:43:24.600 You know, before I opened my mouth about politics, every book I wrote was optioned for the movies.
00:43:31.180 Every book I wrote was nominated.
00:43:32.320 I've been nominated, I think, for every major crime writing award, and I've won several of them.
00:43:37.360 After my politics came out, it was 20 years.
00:43:40.520 It was 20 years from the day I published Empire of Lies, my first really kind of politically tinged novel,
00:43:46.360 until I got another Edgar nomination, which means because the left dominates the culture,
00:43:51.800 The only people who can give me the awards and the praise and the prestige that I actually deserve for these books is me.
00:44:00.000 So I have to go out there and say how great I am, which, unlike Shapiro, I'm not comfortable with.
00:44:05.080 I wish I had Shapiro's absolutely blight attitude to saying these books, these Cameron Winter books, are some of the best crime novels in America.
00:44:15.280 And this one, Find Me Nowhere, I think you can leap in.
00:44:17.900 They're all written, so you can read them individually, or you can read them from the beginning, from when Christmas comes.
00:44:22.680 I'm just now finishing, but I think maybe the last one.
00:44:26.580 It's possible it's the penultimate one, but I think it may be the last.
00:44:29.400 And I just think you are missing out.
00:44:31.400 You know, all the people who pick on us, that every movie we make isn't perfect, that it takes time to, you know, you can't make one movie and have it be great.
00:44:38.100 You have to keep doing it.
00:44:39.060 And who keep saying, why doesn't the, you know, right have anybody who can do this stuff?
00:44:42.780 I can do this stuff.
00:44:43.880 It's just really good.
00:44:45.120 And Find Me Nowhere is a really good addition to the thing, and I'm sorry that I'm the one who has to say it.
00:44:50.720 I grew up feeling that I would never promote myself, but my son explained to me, basically hitting me upside the head, saying you have to go out and tell people because they have no other way of knowing. 1.00
00:45:00.400 And it's true.
00:45:01.240 These books are worth it, and you will not be sorry, and you will not say, why can't anybody in the right do this?
00:45:07.340 I am somebody who knows what I'm doing, and I think they're some of the best crime novels in America, and damn it, go out and preorder them.
00:45:13.400 See, if you pre-order them, all of those books are counted on the first day, and I have a chance of putting it on the Times list.
00:45:19.820 One of these books, The House of Love and Death, one in the series, should have made the Times list, and the Times actually acted to keep it off.
00:45:27.300 I think we buy enough of these, we pre-order enough of these.
00:45:30.460 You can pre-order them on Amazon, you can pre-order them in the Daily Wire shop.
00:45:33.840 I think we could push it onto the list, and I think that that would expand its audience into people, because you don't have to be, they're not conservative novels.
00:45:41.100 They're just novels written by a Christian conservative.
00:45:43.520 You know, I empathize when it comes to humility, Drew.
00:45:46.540 Humility is one of the things I'm most proud of, in fact.
00:45:49.540 And so it's tough, but you've got to go out there, get the book now, find me nowhere. 1.00
00:45:53.580 And before we go, it's Kalshi time.
00:46:00.420 Okay, when will President Trump and President Zelensky and President Putin meet together?
00:46:07.800 before January 1st, 2027,
00:46:10.760 before January 1st, 2028,
00:46:13.200 before January 20th, 2029.
00:46:15.880 Right now, the consensus seems to be
00:46:18.000 39% saying it's going to be before 2029.
00:46:21.140 Only 6% say it's before January of next year,
00:46:24.500 which means the Ukraine war
00:46:26.400 carries on into the 150th year. 0.98
00:46:28.180 Is that about right?
00:46:30.580 Yeah, the prediction markets have this one, right?
00:46:32.960 Yeah, totally.
00:46:34.160 There's no chance that it's going to be,
00:46:36.400 I don't even know if the war will ever end.
00:46:38.580 It'll just sort of, you know, like a great soldier.
00:46:41.140 They never die.
00:46:41.700 They just kind of fade away. 1.00
00:46:43.380 The Russians don't have a real history 0.95
00:46:44.680 of ending wars on excellent terms.
00:46:47.060 So again, I think that Trump keeps wanting
00:46:51.020 to put this together.
00:46:51.680 And Zelensky keeps saying, okay.
00:46:52.840 And then Putin says, okay, and then withdraws.
00:46:55.180 So, you know, I assume that Putin will continue to do that
00:46:57.820 because he believes he has an endless source
00:47:00.140 of human beings he can just throw into the mall.
00:47:02.500 I believe that the death toll in this particular war 0.99
00:47:04.460 like 11 to 1 on the on the Russian side like the Ukrainians are legitimately beating the crap out 1.00
00:47:09.660 of the Russians and just sort of military in terms of military loss um but yeah yeah I agree with the 0.60
00:47:15.440 calcium market I don't think that there's going to be any meeting in the near future I will also
00:47:19.880 say that I think that the the president's attempt to temporarily lower oil prices by buying oil from
00:47:24.500 Russia is is just for the record a bad move and we should not be doing it I I'm with you Ben I
00:47:29.480 I think that was a big mistake in this thing where he picks on, you know, on the Ukrainian president for the bad stuff that Putin does.
00:47:37.200 You know, I always liked Trump in the first term because he would say nice things about Putin and then just screw him into the ground.
00:47:42.680 I thought it was a great thing.
00:47:44.400 And the press would pick on him and say, well, why is he?
00:47:46.540 He just likes these strong men.
00:47:47.900 And I would think, yeah, he's hammering Putin like a, you know, a mallet, you would like mallet into the ground.
00:47:54.140 But this time I didn't get this at all.
00:47:56.840 I don't want to.
00:47:57.780 I don't want their oil.
00:47:58.720 It's not going to bring down diesel prices in any serious way.
00:48:02.720 And I think that Putin can't surrender because they'll kill him.
00:48:06.760 You know, he's a tyrant, right?
00:48:09.300 They're not going to throw him out of office.
00:48:10.660 He's not like, I'm afraid I'll lose an election.
00:48:12.300 They'll just throw him off a cliff somewhere.
00:48:14.060 So I don't think he can pull out without saving face.
00:48:18.080 And he's not going to do it.
00:48:19.000 So there's no point in talking to him.
00:48:20.500 I mean, there is, though, I don't know if you guys know this,
00:48:22.640 there is a midterm election coming up.
00:48:24.180 Like, it does seem, we've pulled a lot of levers to try to manage energy markets since the beginning of the Iran war.
00:48:29.980 I agree, in the long run, I want to keep being tough on Putin and we'll turn off the oil at some point.
00:48:35.340 But if we're going to buy a little bit of oil through, I don't know, you know, November 3rd, I'm not totally opposed to it.
00:48:41.320 Politics is a messy business.
00:48:42.800 The next Kalshi question, Texas Senate winner.
00:48:46.040 Right now, the Kalshi markets say James Tallarico 65%, Ken Paxton 35%.
00:48:52.440 Ben, we know your answer.
00:48:53.580 You think the markets are wrong on this, Drew?
00:48:56.900 Yes.
00:48:57.420 Yep, I agree with Ben.
00:48:58.520 I think it's going to be, I don't even think it's going to be all that close.
00:49:03.140 Huh.
00:49:03.600 Can I ask a follow-up that's not on the Calci markets?
00:49:06.560 Was he actually in the loony bin for 10 days?
00:49:09.180 I saw this meme going around, and then I thought it was just a joke,
00:49:11.820 and then all of a sudden I started people taking it seriously.
00:49:14.620 Was he in the loony bin or no?
00:49:17.280 Nah.
00:49:17.620 I don't know.
00:49:17.980 12 days is a long time to have the flu.
00:49:20.300 It is.
00:49:20.740 Yeah, I mean, I don't think he had the flu, but I also don't think he was in the loony bed.
00:49:24.520 So what was it?
00:49:25.280 I mean, it's 10 days right before midterm, a close midterm.
00:49:27.840 I mean, first of all, I think that you can be in like, I think that maybe if you're having some trouble, you can have a mental health professional come to your home.
00:49:33.980 I'm not sure that he had to fly all the way to Ohio for that.
00:49:37.480 I also think this is a misdirect that Republicans definitely should not jump on.
00:49:41.020 It reminds me very much of the Fetterman race, where every Republican, including me, was like, hey, John Fetterman had a stroke.
00:49:46.660 Probably he shouldn't be in the Senate.
00:49:47.720 And then the people of Pennsylvania are like, eh.
00:49:49.500 And so, you know what you should really run on if you're Ken Paxton and the Republicans in Texas?
00:49:53.620 The fact that James Tallarico is a nut job.
00:49:55.940 Not like his mental illness, but his politics are crazy, crazy.
00:49:59.600 And that's why he shouldn't be in the Senate. 0.80
00:50:00.980 Not because he, you know, had to have a millennial break, which is, you know, because he's just being a dumb Gen Z millennial type.
00:50:09.800 I tell you, I'm like big rah-rah.
00:50:12.240 Obviously, I was born, you know, with my hair parted, smoking a cigar.
00:50:15.600 I'm Mr. Republican.
00:50:16.740 I'm concerned about the Texas race.
00:50:18.940 They scare us every year. Beto O'Rourke is going to turn it blue, and Colin Allred is going to
00:50:23.720 turn it blue, and I didn't really buy that. I'm a little nervous about this race. You have the
00:50:27.980 historic trend blowing against us. It's a tough year for Republicans. You have the pain point of
00:50:33.380 the Iran war and just how people perceive that relating to inflation, even though the connection
00:50:38.700 is not as severe as a lot of people think it is. I'm concerned. There are some candidate issues,
00:50:44.860 obviously, you know, Paxton's a survivor, so I like that. But he does have some baggage. I don't
00:50:50.620 know. I'm a little more concerned about it. I would not put a lot of money on Republicans
00:50:55.900 holding the seat. But I hope that you're both right about that. Okay. Who will be charged with
00:51:00.360 a federal crime this year? Ilhan Omar, 35%. Cassidy Hutchinson, 31%. John Brennan, 23%.
00:51:08.100 Fauci, 22%. Give me a break. The Ilhan Omar one is the only one where I think maybe there's a shot.
00:51:15.320 That's right.
00:51:16.000 Yeah, because that investigation started under Biden, I think, and she's obviously guilty.
00:51:21.320 So maybe that is the one I would pick.
00:51:24.120 Yeah, John Brennan and Fauci, no way.
00:51:26.040 Not a chance.
00:51:26.800 Not a chance.
00:51:27.260 Ben, what's—
00:51:27.660 Well, again, Ilhan Omar, my understanding is that it's not really even about her being prosecuted federally.
00:51:31.460 I think that it would be an immigration violation probably by her parents, right?
00:51:37.020 I think that's what they're currently talking about.
00:51:38.840 So I'm not sure how that amounts to her being prosecuted federally or just deported, right?
00:51:42.920 The question is whether she's in the country illegally in the first place.
00:51:46.080 Right.
00:51:46.260 And so if she's, maybe, I guess if she was lying on her passport or something is maybe the going theory.
00:51:50.760 Well, I think that's what it comes down to.
00:51:52.120 By the way, yeah.
00:51:54.340 So initially a lot of people thought this was because she married her brother, the husband brother.
00:51:58.540 And so that would be an immigration crime.
00:52:00.420 She might have been aiding someone else's immigration crime, but it's not really about her citizenship.
00:52:04.480 But then the reporting that's coming out is that she might be a year older than she says that she is.
00:52:10.200 So, you know, a lady never tells, but she received her citizenship at age 17 through a program, thanks to her father, that allowed naturalized citizens to get their kids in and get them citizenship.
00:52:21.160 But it was only available to minors. 0.52
00:52:22.860 So if she was actually 18 at the time, then it would have been illegitimate.
00:52:27.920 Now, there's a 10-year statute of limitations on it, so you say, okay, too bad she snuck in.
00:52:31.980 But to what you just referenced, Ben, if she's lying on her passport, apparently, again, I'm no expert on the statute, but this is what the reporting says,
00:52:39.000 every time that you
00:52:41.280 use the false date,
00:52:43.080 if you're renewing a passport or something like that,
00:52:45.380 it resets the statute of limitations.
00:52:47.180 So all of a sudden, you had a federal
00:52:49.060 judge sign off on this warrant to raid
00:52:51.040 her home before dawn. You obviously
00:52:52.960 had DHS involved. It's been going on for a long time.
00:52:55.280 All of a sudden, I'm starting to wonder,
00:52:57.280 is there a chance they deport
00:52:58.800 Ilhan Omar? 0.83
00:53:00.420 I have to say, it would be orgasmically delicious.
00:53:02.340 It makes sense, by the way, that if you're going to raid,
00:53:04.640 if you're going to raid, it does make sense that,
00:53:06.780 because you have to think, like, what kind of documents would she have?
00:53:09.000 And so if what they're rating her for is to actually take a look at her at her passport or her birth certificate or something like that, like those are documents that certainly would be in her possession.
00:53:16.440 Yeah. Because it's about like her dad being a member of a Somali killing gang, which is also one of the other allegations that's out there that her dad worked for the Somali government when they were pursuing some rather untoward activities in Somalia.
00:53:27.140 Again, it just goes to show you guys, can we like stop importing refugees from third world countries who are just awful people? 1.00
00:53:33.460 How about that? Like like we now a mayor of New York because of this and Hassan Piker because of this and a Chank Uyghur because of this. 1.00
00:53:39.000 and an Ilhan Omar because of this and Rashid. 0.97
00:53:41.060 It's like, do we need this?
00:53:42.720 Is this a thing we need?
00:53:44.280 Like, take a look at France.
00:53:45.100 Is it working out amazing over for the French or for the Brits?
00:53:48.100 Can we please stop this?
00:53:49.580 So if there's a possibility of reversing this by sending Ilhan Omar elsewhere, 0.73
00:53:52.720 then I'm very much in favor of it under all legal, under all legal remedies. 0.74
00:53:58.340 It's hard for me to imagine anything more blissful than Ilhan Omar being deported.
00:54:02.500 I think that that would be one of the most fun things that has ever happened.
00:54:06.400 And I don't know, Ben, if you keep saying things like that,
00:54:08.200 You know, all the network, all the guys on CNN are going to start crying about how you're calling their favorite country a hellhole.
00:54:14.440 You know, they're going to be boo-hoo and, you know, like they did when Trump referenced Haiti in the same tone of voice.
00:54:21.660 We love these people.
00:54:22.460 They're the most noble people on earth.
00:54:23.940 And, yes, they should be living someplace else.
00:54:26.220 But there was that great.
00:54:28.840 Just don't insult them.
00:54:30.020 There was this great irony, of course, where they say, you know, Trump calls Haiti a hellhole.
00:54:35.240 He used actually more colorful language.
00:54:36.740 And then everyone clutched their pearls and said, you can't call Haiti a hellhole.
00:54:40.700 Haiti's great. Haiti's already great. Haiti's utopia. This is Wakanda or whatever.
00:54:45.000 And then we say, okay, great. We're going to send them all back. 1.00
00:54:47.480 They say, you can't send them back to Haiti. It's a hellhole. 1.00
00:54:49.700 What are you talking about? Or Somalia? 1.00
00:54:52.100 It truly is. It truly is a hellhole. It's like just a terrible place. 1.00
00:54:57.840 Okay. You know, this, I did not expect this to happen.
00:55:00.160 You were actually making me more optimistic about the midterm elections.
00:55:05.480 I'm really worried about it.
00:55:07.120 I do agree that it's just going to be endless investigations.
00:55:10.180 I think it'll just all be about Trump because all of politics is about Trump.
00:55:13.420 And that's how politics works.
00:55:14.640 And he's our Napoleon.
00:55:15.440 And, you know, they're going to give us this grand, epic kind of ending to the story if they have a shot at it.
00:55:22.700 So I really hope that we don't have to deal with that because there's a lot of good stuff going on.
00:55:26.420 And there are a lot of really dangerous candidates out there.
00:55:28.860 Whether or not Tallarico was in a loony bin, he's a complete freak.
00:55:32.280 And his view of human nature in society is deeply, deeply perverse.
00:55:36.920 Abdul El-Sayed is half a terrorist and half a, like, Chippendales dancer. 0.76
00:55:41.620 You know, I want to dance with somebody.
00:55:43.440 And it's just they're all, they're one after the other is more and more dangerous.
00:55:48.260 And it would be a pity to see the policies of the administration go down because of it.
00:55:53.560 So on that legitimately happy note, anything else before I let you gentlemen go?
00:55:59.820 No, I think you said it well.
00:56:01.240 I think you did an absolutely mediocre job there, Knowles.
00:56:03.580 I think that we should tell everybody to go buy Drew's book again.
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00:56:38.980 Forget about all that other stuff Ben was just promoting and Drew was just promoting.
00:56:42.420 You get to see my interview with Chris Hansen and it takes place inside a weird kitchen and there's a box of pizza there.
00:56:48.860 So check it out. See that this Sunday.
00:56:51.680 Go buy Drew's book. Go watch Ben's movie.
00:56:54.080 But most important, go to dailywire.com slash subscribe.
00:56:57.240 We'll see you on the next Friendly Fire.