00:10:19.280Yeah, except Mr. Gnome, for example. And the Luxemaxers, it seems to me they're doing the same thing, but it's just they're doing a caricature performance of their own sex.1.00
00:10:28.220Well, that's kind of the male-to-male transgender thing was when the manosphere came out and you had all these people doing like the just, yeah, the caricature of your own sex.0.98
00:10:37.860And it's all very, you know, it's the gender expression. None of it is about just your actual how you were born.0.91
00:10:44.520And that's always the thing I get confused with when talking to, like, very liberal people about the transgender stuff.0.91
00:10:50.060I'm like, I thought this was, shouldn't we be happy with people just being in the body they were born as?
00:10:54.340And then you can express as any gender expression publicly.
00:10:58.320That seems like the most body positive thing to me.
00:11:01.560I always had a little affinity for the transgender idea.
00:11:06.280In the sense, like, I disagreed with the conservatives who said, it's just about your chromosomes or whatever.
00:11:11.320Because, like, there's obviously a performance to gender.
00:23:25.700But what I want to know, because before the Daily Wire, before I was like seriously dating my now wife again and all this, I guess I would have been back in college, you know.
00:23:37.580And I was hanging around with some of the right wingers and I noticed the same dynamic, which is these are people who, especially when they're single and they're young and they're exploring sometimes radical ideas, which demarcated that period of time, I think, from other, from like the 90s.
00:24:37.640So how do you – do the libs not have their own version of it?0.94
00:24:41.620They do, but they're so busy spending like 400 live streams arguing about whether Sock and the Polycule has cheated on so-and-so or sexually assaulted them.
00:24:51.580and then, you know, they've got, like, the whole sex contracts that they do.
00:24:58.020Whereas I actually think, like, the conservative thing is they're more, in some ways, more just, like, okay, we're the jock, you're a woman, like, let's go.
00:25:07.320Whereas the liberals are spending 400 years, like, psychoanalyzing every single interaction they're having.
00:25:11.760That's a good point, because you hear about these polycules or whatever weird, like, orgy left-wing things there are.0.75
00:25:18.800I don't think anyone's actually having sex over there.0.60
00:25:20.700Yeah. The people who are doing it and the way that they're doing it is not what you would immediately think. And it's like if they're all, not to be too blunt after two sips of a martini, but if they're all kind of fat and ugly and depressed and gay, that's not an environment conducive to wild nights.
00:25:43.000I mean, the gay community have some wild nights, so you got to give them that.1.00
00:26:53.680So if they were to write a Facebook post, if it's your like liberal aunt, they would say, no, no, the LGB stuff is great.0.55
00:27:00.820They'll go with their, the woman will go with her husband and their two children, their 2.1 children from their bourgeois neighborhood.
00:27:08.240They'll go to the pride parade and like wave a little flag and then go have brunch afterward.0.78
00:27:12.580And so I agree, much of the way they're behaving, because they're richer and more elite and more brought into the kind of establishment of business and politics in the country, they are kind of the dominant class.0.53
00:27:24.460Their behavior, I think, doesn't match their purported ideology.
00:27:28.020Whereas for the conservatives, because we have this weird dichotomy where we're both populist, but also like Tweety bow tie people, you have this kind of radically different cultural aesthetic.
00:27:39.940And for the more populist elements, there's a little more social chaos there, you know, for all sorts of reasons, economic reasons, the decline of the outsourcing of jobs and, you know, decline of religion and all the rest.
00:27:53.620But I just wonder, yeah, let's give the libs credit and say they are often in their personal lives behaving in a normal and traditional way, but they're kind of pulling up the ladder for other people. Is that fair?
00:28:08.700I think so, but I'd rather, like I think a lot of their aversion is just because I've known libs that, and I talked to them like, why don't you want the trad life? They think it's not possible because they think it's all a show.
00:28:22.480Okay, so a lot of people grew up in families where they had, like, the good public family that went to church, you know, took the autumn photo shoots that they put up on the wall, but then in the home, it was falling apart, you know, abuse, this and that.
00:28:35.440And then they're like, this is a show.
00:28:37.340And then you see over and over again.1.00
00:28:40.520And for the liberals, the only possible sin, because they deny an objective moral standard, just intellectually, the real sin is hypocrisy.1.00
00:28:50.240And they don't think it's actually possible to live that way.
00:28:53.300So they'd rather be honest and say, actually, because this is one joke I always made when people got mad at me for some of my past dating decisions.
00:29:01.920I wonder if they'll come up in any of these questions.
00:30:14.820You know, the ones who drive in the big sprinter vans for their 14 kids, and you've never heard their names, and they just, they really live it, you know.
00:30:24.980And I think, I agree with you that the libs don't think that is possible, to really do that thing.
00:30:32.100This is why they don't believe the crusades were undertaken for religious reasons.
00:30:37.180This is why they believe that marriage is doomed to fail.
00:30:41.560Because they can't imagine that people are actually motivated by religion or virtue or sanctity or what have you.
00:30:57.040And this is where I also think that trad, for the most part, doesn't even exist at all.
00:31:01.960Because people in the 50s who we would consider, oh, traditional or whatever, they were just acquiescing to the culture of their time and what made sense at that time.
00:31:09.020If those people were born today, every single one of them that was making apple pies and, you know, husband goes to work, they'd both be working.
00:31:15.380They'd be watching, you know, Love Island when they got home.
00:31:18.420They'd be acquiescing to what makes sense.
00:31:20.420It doesn't make sense to have a husband only working.0.91
00:31:23.500You can't afford that in this economy.0.91
00:31:26.820Maybe for you, Michael, with your fancy little job and your cigars.
00:31:30.680But let me tell you, look, I sell a lot of cigars, but I have friends like this is the point that you've hit on that I think is so right and important is you say people can't believe in a thing that they haven't seen.
00:31:43.460Yeah. And look, I grew up in New York, pretty liberal place.
00:31:48.280I have a job where I sell a lot of cigars and I make a good chunk of change for it.0.97
00:31:52.440So I do have a privilege that my wife can stay home and watch the kids.
00:31:56.960But I know people who don't sell a lot of cigars.
00:31:59.040And I know people who don't have a lot of those privileges, who make a lot less money, maybe than your median lib or something, who have a ton of kids who maybe they have two cars.
00:32:18.340Maybe they don't, you know, they shrink their lifestyle expectations.
00:32:23.960But they really do the trad life and they really can do it.
00:32:27.280And you just think about the amount of money that we have today is so much higher than what your grandparents had, just GDP.
00:32:33.000I mean, I think we view like having an iPhone as wealth, but that's not really like we want, like owning property is a lot more difficult.
00:32:41.120Real estate is more difficult, but part of the reason for that is the houses are like two or three times the size that they were back in the day.
00:35:13.000And also, there is this, you know, everything about being a man is promoted as being very cool, like the Faustian desire to go and conquer the world, the masculine Indiana Jones, this, that.
00:35:26.080And then no guy would ever want to sit at home and be the housewife.
00:35:31.640Like, that's very talked down upon when you actually, like men would say.0.98
00:37:40.120Now, Lauren, I have to say, you know, sometimes the audience gives me flack because they accuse me of flirting with my female guests or hitting on my female guests.
00:37:49.800But you, this shouldn't be as big of an issue because you are officially a man.
00:38:38.280You know what was great is there was a guy in Alberta who, after seeing me do that, went and changed his gender to female purely so he could get lower insurance rates on his car.
00:38:49.720Did he get the lower insurance rates?0.71
00:39:20.600Maybe men are more aggressive drivers.0.60
00:39:23.640So basically I would say in my anecdotal experience, the plural of anecdote being data, men are obviously better drivers than women.0.66
00:39:33.480But when they are bad drivers, they are catastrophically bad drivers, whereas women are just more cautious drivers, which is sometimes bad because it leads them into perilous situations.0.83
00:47:21.900That is an amazing observation, because I was just talking to Mr. Davies,
00:47:27.340tell-and-tales out of school after a martoonie or two,
00:47:30.200and he said, goth baddies are having a big comeback.
00:47:34.580And I said, what are you talking about?
00:47:35.780He said, oh, they're everywhere, all on my social media.
00:47:38.060I said, they're not on my social media.0.70
00:47:39.140I don't know, it tells me more about you than about social media, and he's really into the goth baddies.
00:47:43.720And then I was actually thinking, you know, for me, I do, yeah, I like the more kind of the artsy type, the graduate school type, whatever, you know, which is more lib-coded than conservative-coded.
00:47:59.360And, but so what you're saying is, why is it that there is one standard for male behavior and another standard for female behavior?
00:48:06.920It's almost as if men and women are different.
00:51:00.240And I just think it's actually a real pity, no flattery.
00:51:04.800But, you know, if relative to the public appearance of the current state of his life, if he could have had some kind of stable thing with you, and maybe if he were then to consider Christianity and were to like get his life in order, that would have been really, really good.
00:51:22.700And instead, he said the holdup was, I want to do weird stuff with other people.0.56
00:51:29.780And then the conclusion of it is, he sends intimate conversations to a hooker that ends up in the hands of some corrupt government.
00:51:40.980It's just like, it's so easily preventable, I guess, is my conclusion.
00:51:45.420You know, I think that there's something that happens to people when they grow up on the internet.
00:51:48.700like I always people are like why is your dating life and personal life so crazy Lauren it's like
00:51:53.340I have had millions of people commenting I have I have a video on YouTube with 20,000 views
00:51:58.640that's just covering the flame war in my wiki feet comment section you know like there is nothing
00:52:05.320about my life that is normal I'm banned from like three or four countries I just want to clarify
00:52:08.900the flame war meaning an argument over I have a very controversial very controversial wiki feet
00:52:16.620page, you know? Um, and one thing that would always happen in my dating life as well is men
00:52:22.640believe everything they read about me on the internet. So like if I date, especially like a
00:52:26.280normie guy, they'll read a headline. This actually happened to my marriage. There was a headline
00:52:30.260that's like, Lauren's cheating on her husband. And it was clearly AI generated to get clicks,
00:52:33.960like nonsense. And I get sent this by my husband and he's freaking out. And I'm like, this is AI.
00:52:39.180Like, I need you to understand, like, let's go through it together. This is AI. Same with,
00:52:43.360You know, I had an ex where there was an article calling me a fascist.
00:52:46.700His mother finds it, screams at him on the phone, why are you dating a fascist?
00:52:49.980And it's like to date someone that doesn't understand how the internet works and isn't seeped in like drama, it almost feels like a painful experience for me.
00:52:58.900Because I know at some point you're going to find something on the internet about me.
00:53:04.260Because when you're in an argument with your spouse, like you go to your friends and you say, they said X, Y, Z, like give me comfort.
00:53:10.520And you can tell which friends of yours are going to just glaze you and be like, yeah, F them, this, that, but you know that's the personality.
00:53:16.940Whereas when you get in an argument with someone who's been an internet personality, you can go on infinite forums telling you they're a psychopath, they're a sociopath, they're this, they're that, and believe everything they say.
00:53:27.300And so to be in a relationship with someone else who has experienced that felt a lot safer than to be in a relationship with someone who's going to infinitely use my online reputation against me.
00:53:35.980Yeah, that actually weirdly, that's the closest thing to a defense of dating Mr. Destiny that I could possibly imagine.
00:56:33.640And the socialism is, it's not like the old, it's not Karl Marx who is evil and probably was demonically possessed but had interesting insights.0.89
00:56:42.840It's what they call gay race communism.0.94
00:56:44.820Like it's all this, yeah, third world.
00:56:46.920I think when it comes to Canada, anyway, when we're looking at, like, electoral, like, groups you're trying to pursue, a lot of the immigrant communities are very socially conservative.0.83
00:57:01.580And a lot of immigrant communities, if you include Eastern Europe, certainly are extraordinarily anti-communist.0.88
00:57:07.280Like, I send my kid to a school run by Eastern Europeans because they're not, you know, skeptical of the government because they fell down a YouTube rabbit hole.0.92
00:57:15.440They're skeptical because they were in bread lines in Poland.0.95
00:57:22.940But I'm talking about Third World.0.70
00:57:26.740You know, in America, there's a lot from Middle East and North Africa.
00:57:30.560You've got Dearborn, Michigan and parts of Texas now.0.93
00:57:33.960But then even the Hispanic immigration is formed by this very communist-infused, liberation-theology-injected kind of thing.0.98
00:57:42.920So I don't think you can parse the two.0.95
00:57:45.120I think there's a lot of immigrants who are extraordinarily skeptical of socialism.0.91
00:57:49.800Like, I'm not, I think, like, my biggest problem, Cubans, yeah, Cuban immigrants.1.00
00:57:52.560Give me the Cubans. Bring on the Cubans.1.00
00:57:54.500You know, I don't, and I actually, when it comes to, like, the Islam stuff, I have friends of mine that are Islamic that are not so different from Christian friends when they practice it, you know, normally in their day-to-day life, and I don't have a problem with that.0.99
00:58:09.380But the Islamic fundamentalism, I think you see a lot more with, like, the mass immigration in Europe that has no real checks or balances.
00:58:17.160I don't know how much you see the Islamic fundamentalism here in the U.S.0.93
00:58:19.920No, my fear is not—I have some trepidation of Islamic fundamentalism.0.98
00:58:24.420We have been in tension with this religion for 1,400 years, going back to—let's not forget the Battle of Tours was 150 miles outside of Paris, not outside of Mecca.1.00
00:58:33.440But, yeah, there's the Dearborn problem and all that.1.00
00:58:36.500My issue is more with the Mamdani stuff.0.77
00:59:07.340Like, if you gave me a Samuel Gompers, Eugene Debs, socialist, actual, you know, kind of working class hero today, I think they're kind of wacky.0.70
00:59:22.800But to me, the core problem there is the socialism, the too much government control, the taking away of individual freedoms and finances.
00:59:31.580In my ideal world, I'm actually studying theology right now in school.
00:59:36.420I've gone back. I'm just doing a course a semester. But in my ideal world, there are so many Islamic scholars, Christian scholars, Jewish scholars, that when they, you know, rationalists, when they work together, they have just fascinating insights about the world.
00:59:51.880It's like the fundamental issue is when you get the government, the control, and the authoritarianism involved.
01:00:00.720Like, that's the fundamental issue.1.00
01:00:02.040I don't care if someone is Muslim.1.00
01:01:29.720You can either take in half a million socialists from the Christian democratic tradition to the more hardcore socialist tradition of Europe,0.99
01:01:40.940or you can take in serious practicing Muslims0.80
01:01:47.820from Somalia, Iran, or Iraq, your children.
01:01:54.160Okay, but when you say serious practicing Muslims0.92
01:06:49.340And, you know, I really, when I look back, it's not just believing in, like, the trad fantasy stuff that ruined a lot of my approach to relationships as well as becoming famous at 19.
01:07:00.220and, you know, getting banned from countries and arrested
01:07:02.300and becoming just like a lot of messed up from the internet.0.99
01:07:04.840But like, you know, I watched The Notebook and I believed that shit.0.99
01:07:08.280I watched the fantasy movies, the Disney princess movies, everything.0.98
01:07:12.280And the funny thing is, if you actually read the original versions
01:07:15.640of like the Brothers Grimm, the story of Ariel, for example, Little Mermaid,
01:07:22.600she actually gets rejected by the prince and she has a deal
01:07:25.800where she's going to turn into seafoam if she doesn't marry him within a few days.
01:07:32.300And the whole story is she gave up her voice for a man and dies at the end of the real story
01:07:38.520because you're not supposed to give up your voice.
01:07:40.460Or the story of Redbeard where, have you heard this one?
01:08:18.840the old fantasy novels warned you about bad men they warned you about being open about your
01:08:24.960relationships with your family not hiding things not whereas the newer fantasy is all the prince
01:08:30.260is going to come and save you and he's going to be perfect and nothing's going to go wrong and
01:08:33.140then you ride off into the sunset and women love that story because it's simple and actually0.95
01:08:39.600yeah you know but what i guess what changed did women become more simple is your implication or
01:08:45.360Well, the delusion of just, I'm going to get married and everything in my life is going to be perfect is a lot more enticing than I have to keep trying every single day of my life to ensure this is a healthy relationship and I need to stay on my toes and read situations and be, I have to be intelligent.
01:09:27.740Because it could be, the other read on it would be that it could be feminism, that in the old days, before feminism, women kind of knew what was up.0.99
01:09:35.640You know, they were not laboring under different ideological pretenses.
01:09:41.800So they kind of knew what men are like, and they knew the good parts of men and the bad parts of men, and so the literature reflected that.
01:09:47.620And then in feminism, they tell you men and women are exactly the same, and they kind of jumble up a lot of anthropology, and that jumbles up the presentation of men in the romance novel.
01:09:55.480I don't know that real feminism talks about how men and women are the same.
01:10:00.860I think, like, if you were to read, you know, Andrea Dworkin, they're very honest about the differences.
01:10:08.740I thought you were going to say Mary Wollstonecraft or something.0.97
01:10:11.020You're going full Dworkin, like, all sex is rape, kind of.0.79
01:10:15.040Well, no, I don't think that's what they're saying either.0.94
01:10:16.900Whereas I think it's more, oh, you're going to get mad at this,
01:10:19.220but it's more capitalism that led to the Disneyfication of relationships.
01:10:24.120It's, once again, what sells, not what is true and what's going to help you.
01:10:28.080And I think that's the biggest problem that we have with materialist society.
01:10:31.180It's not what is truth, what is going to make life better.
01:10:33.960And this is what has happened as well with the political entertainment, infotainment sphere.
01:10:38.100I actually think a lot of relationship advice.
01:10:39.960Have you ever heard of AI model collapse?
01:14:09.400It's like very important to Dante's cosmology that the earth is not flat.
01:14:13.400And so I said, well, that's not Dante's cosmology.
01:14:17.400And this other guy, nice guy, but he said, yeah, the earth is flat.
01:14:21.400And then Tim turns to us, he said, you know, man, just because we're Catholic doesn't mean we have to be retarded.
01:14:27.400Like, this is, we're actually supposed to love pursuing the truth and, you know, science and, I don't know, natural science and all that.0.91
01:14:35.100So, anyway, no, the flat earth stuff does nothing for me.
01:26:04.020The apocryphal scripts include Judith and all these very high-powered women that are respected and seen as powerful and able to enact their power onto the world.
01:26:13.380There is a version of Trad that is a fully encompassed tradition that includes the whole ecclesiastical body of works and not just this narrow vision.
01:26:23.060So hold on, you're telling me, Lauren, you're telling me I could beat up Destiny, you're
01:26:27.240telling me I'm a capital T trad, I'm feeling great.
01:27:15.320If you saw recently, you know that rape gang inquiry that came out right before the election with Rupert Lowe, like Elon Musk was pushing it and everything.
01:27:23.460There is this idea where people think X is real life, and they're like, okay, the rape gang report is going viral.
01:27:28.220The numbers were very off in that, by the way, which I care about.
01:33:05.760And then he goes to the trials of going through fire to shed himself of these things.
01:33:10.520But he has to get to that last level and see himself as the ultimate sinner, the betrayal, before he can walk up the devil's back to Paradisio.
01:33:17.200But then when he sees, no, crucially though, crucially.
01:33:19.240Whereas I see the trads and the online right-wing LARPers as not admitting they have the capacity for these things at all.
01:33:24.840I'm an entirely different creature from these leftist degenerates that I reject.
01:33:50.140He says, I'm in the middle of my life's journey, and he tries to climb up the mountain out of this wood that he finds himself in, but he can't climb up, and he's stopped by three animals, and he realizes he can't do it on his own.
01:34:00.940He needs something higher than himself.
01:36:51.140I think it's people that prefer about the aesthetics of it rather than the depth.
01:36:55.500I mentioned this in another interview recently that I have a professor of mine that has probably kept me more in touch with my, you know, pursuing of faith, which I don't even like to call myself a Christian on the Internet because I don't think it means anything.
01:37:07.160Have you heard of 4chan, the word girl, what they mean when they say girl?
01:37:13.260Back in the day, when people would get in arguments, someone would say, well, I'm a girl, so I have more authority on this opinion about relationships.
01:37:19.660And people would go, okay, sure, you're a girl, because girl means guy in real life.
01:37:25.760And then girls would complain, and they'd be like, but some of us are actually girls.
01:37:29.680And the guys would go, it doesn't matter.
01:37:31.240We're all effectively guys in real life here, because your argument has to stand on its own.
01:37:37.400And I believe this with online Christianity.
01:37:39.420You have all of these politicians that are Christian signaling for votes and donations and, you know, accolades-based signaling on the internet.0.68
01:37:46.380But your behavior should stand on its own.0.58
01:37:48.540You shouldn't have to say you're a Christian on the internet.
01:37:51.840So I have a professor of mine that I've worked with for 10 years.
01:38:28.640I don't know if this is actually what he felt, but that's what I read from it.
01:38:31.420People don't care about what is actually going on internally.
01:38:35.040They care about the online social signaling.
01:38:37.660And that has ruined so much of politics and depth and religion on the online sphere.
01:38:42.800I agree there are a billion problems with online presentations of religion, no question.
01:38:48.460But, and we should have a rich internal life and a relationship with God and we shouldn't get the applause of the multitude because we should try to, you know, win the rewards in heaven.
01:38:58.820But you should say you're a Christian, right?
01:39:10.640I'm more likely to see someone with a verse in their bio or a cross in their bio calling someone a slur than I am seeing them repeat the Beatitudes, you know?
01:40:31.400I believe that the only way to fix the world is with repeating the self-sacrifice that he has made to undo the sin and the selfishness that all of us create through our own sin.
01:41:17.200This is where it goes, like, how do we communicate with a generation who we have no sympathy for, despite them growing up with no signs or even model of what a religious or traditional life looks like?
01:41:33.320We don't have, we, we, you have so many people online.
01:41:36.060I see this with like the fake monks who it's like, okay, no one wants to sleep with you.
01:41:39.260And you say you're a monk that's superior simply because you don't have the ability to sleep with people.
01:41:44.700Yeah, join the cisterncy in order, you know.
01:41:48.140Yeah, but like so many people just take for granted the childhoods they had.
01:41:52.200They take for granted the environments they're in.
01:41:54.060Like if you grew up in a trap house with a, you know, mom who is an OnlyFans model and this and that, you'd be acting in very different ways.
01:42:06.500Because everyone is growing up in a more liberalized modern world.
01:42:09.000And this is where you see eternally all these people being canceled over and over and over again on the right for failing to live up to it.
01:42:14.700Because it forces people to hide their true nature, to fit in with a group that most people simply don't have the tools to emulate.
01:42:22.380Yeah, no, there is two good points from two great thinkers, C.S. Lewis and Shia LaBeouf.
01:42:28.540C.S. Lewis, he says, when he gets to heaven, he'll say, he expects to say, of course.
01:42:34.940That it all kind of, the things that didn't seem to make sense, did make sense from the vantage of heaven.
01:42:39.600And then Shia LaBeouf, when he was asked, what would you say when you meet Christ in heaven?
01:42:43.200And they said, I wouldn't say nothing.
01:44:39.320You don't have to be a member of a party or a club.
01:44:41.260Well, what are they conserving anymore? Because to me, it seems like they're conserving social capital views, likes, money. I don't know that there's any real policy point that is being conserved. Like if a party comes about in Canada, I'm going to vote for it based on what individual statements they're making that line up with my real experience in the real world.
01:45:01.460Sure, but forget about the party. Let's just say the lowercase c conservative, whatever that is, whether that's Joseph de Mestre, Bonald, Edmund Burke, all the way up to Donald Trump. Whatever that means, it seems to me Michael Oakeshott has a good definition of conservative, which is to prefer the tried to the untried.
01:45:22.000the real, the actual to the possible, the present laughter to utopian bliss, that to quote Roger
01:45:30.060Scruton, it's more an inclination than an idea, that it is a desire to conserve things, as it
01:45:37.380were. Are you that? Are you that thing? Yes and no, because I am that thing when it, like I said
01:45:43.980earlier, when I talked about the idea that when it comes to marriage, some more liberal opinions,
01:45:48.680like being more educated or getting married later actually work better to preserve marriage,
01:45:53.680I am a realist in the sense of if a liberal opinion lines up more with reality, I'm going
01:45:58.120to take that. And if a conservative opinion lines up more with reality, I'm going to take that. But
01:46:01.700I'm seeing utopianism on both sides because it sells. Once again, I'm going to bake breakfast
01:46:07.780cereal from scratch at six in the morning for all my kids because this looks really aesthetic
01:46:12.120on Instagram, even though my husband's the CEO of JetBlue, so that's the only reason I'm allowed
01:46:16.600to do this? That is the conservative fantasy, the liberal fantasy. There's no difference between
01:46:21.740men and women, and we're going to have a socialist utopia. Everyone wants a version of utopia. You0.79
01:46:26.180see the fascist, dark enlightenment LARPers. Everyone's playing Dungeons and Dragons on the0.59
01:46:31.320internet right now. Look, I'm sympathetic to that, because I think 85% of people are.
01:46:37.400I woke up this morning, and I was working. I woke up. I snoozed. I was writing. My producers
01:46:42.900were screaming at me, as they often are. And then I come out. My kids had already finished
01:46:46.760breakfast. But then I see there's a nice ham, egg, and cheese sandwich, one of my most favorite
01:46:51.260meals. And it's waiting for me on an English muffin that was made from scratch by my wife.
01:46:56.460Not breakfast cereal, which I hate, but English muffin, an English muffin from scratch. It's real.
01:47:02.480My wife is very educated. She's a very intelligent woman. It's all real. I'm not the CEO of JetBlue.
01:47:08.060I'm not crying poverty, but I'm not the CEO of JetBlue either.
01:47:15.220It can be, but it's very difficult to do, and it's very difficult to replicate for a lot of people.
01:47:20.140It's kind of like the D.A.R.E. program.
01:47:21.520I think that message your mother gave to you where she was saying you're really going to like nicotine and you're really going to like cocaine.
01:47:27.620That should be the message of the D.A.R.E. program where they say, actually, cocaine is bad for you, but the reason it's really bad for you is because you're going to love it.
01:47:37.780And I think this is the biggest problem conservatives make is like, you know, they act like, okay, you get married and then you, that's life.
01:47:45.960Whereas, and a lot of Christians too, you get married and it can never break.