The Mikhaila Peterson Podcast - May 16, 2022


148. The Problem With Elon Musk, Raising Kids and Libertarianism | Will Witt & Mikhaila Peterson


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00:00:00.000 Elon Musk. I'm not a fan of Elon Musk for very legitimate reasons. I'm not a fan of
00:00:04.240 the technocratic agenda of many of the people who are in charge of this country and in charge
00:00:09.140 of the world right now. Elon Musk comes out and says, I support the Canadian truckers,
00:00:14.700 yet he's developing technology that makes self-driving cars. I am against self-driving
00:00:19.380 cars. Just because we can have the technology to do something doesn't mean that it's a good idea.
00:00:23.580 Truck drivers are the No. 1 job here in the States, basically, the most employed job,
00:00:28.420 and you're going to get rid of those for self-driving people. What are you going to do? Hollow out
00:00:31.600 the entire middle class of this country by doing that? The middle of America? There's
00:00:36.080 the stuff with the Neuralink and the brain chips and improving humanity. I just think
00:00:41.360 there are too many problems with Elon Musk as a guy. He also has ties to the CCP and
00:00:46.240 many investments there. I love what he's doing with Twitter. I think that if he can make
00:00:51.380 it a free speech platform for all, that's a great thing. I'm not going to knock him
00:00:54.920 for it, but I'm not going to be this person who comes and just stands with Elon Musk through
00:01:01.500 everything because he said some funny jokes about Elizabeth Warren. It's like that. I don't really
00:01:06.080 care. I care about what's actually getting done and what's happening in the future.
00:01:10.880 That's what means the most to me. I just like Elon's Twitter.
00:01:19.360 Welcome to episode 148 of my podcast. I'm Michaela Peterson. This was a fun episode.
00:01:24.920 I hosted Will Witt, who you might know from the PragerU videos of Will interviewing people in
00:01:30.240 the street or public campuses. He's a nationwide speaker, author, and the host of Will Witt Live
00:01:36.340 on PragerU, where he talks about political and cultural issues. We talked about a bunch of
00:01:41.680 topics like Florida's recent Don't Say Gay Bill, Elon Musk buying Twitter, Will's book tour and
00:01:48.360 stunning dutch fiance and how he went from full-blown atheist to christian i hope you
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00:03:57.020 well went welcome to my podcast hey thanks so much for having me on thanks for coming on we
00:04:07.480 should have done this a long time ago but we didn't so now is as good a time as any i suppose
00:04:12.160 Yeah, I'm excited to be on. We've been talking for a long time, trying to figure out things
00:04:17.500 with your dad and things for podcasts and stuff, so I'm glad that finally I'm able to
00:04:21.280 come on your podcast after you came on mine.
00:04:24.320 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Before we get started, for anyone who isn't familiar with you and
00:04:28.620 your work, can you give a brief description of who you are and what you do?
00:04:33.400 Yeah. I work for PragerU, so I create video content for them, have about 700 million views
00:04:39.000 on my videos, done a lot of man on the street videos, social media content. I'm also a
00:04:43.740 international speaker, a national bestselling author of my book, how to win friends and
00:04:48.100 influence enemies, directed a couple of short documentaries. And that's about it. Just a
00:04:54.080 conservative commentator, cultural commentator. That's, that's really what I do.
00:04:59.960 Have you ever taken my dad's personality test? Do you know how disagreeable you are?
00:05:03.760 Yes, actually. So this is funny. My, my fiance and I, we actually did do
00:05:07.580 the personality test. And I think I was in like the 99th percentile for disagreeableness,
00:05:13.600 like very disagreeable. Um, it was like that for the aggressiveness as well on some of the
00:05:18.780 higher end kind of things. So, which is strange because if you watch my videos, interviewing
00:05:22.740 people, I'm very nice to people, but I guess when it comes to more of my personal life, then
00:05:27.900 I can be very disagreeable, very stubborn. Hmm. Okay. That doesn't surprise me at all.
00:05:33.240 i scored uh i scored zero percentile on politeness on that test and then i retook it and was like
00:05:39.540 yeah and then i scored sixth percentile so that was that was a little bit better but that's you
00:05:45.280 come is that saying you're not polite um it's hard to say so agreeableness like it splits um
00:05:52.880 your personality into five personality traits uh openness conscientiousness extroversion
00:05:58.360 agreeableness and neuroticism and agreeableness splits into politeness. Oh my gosh, this is
00:06:06.880 terrible. I don't think I can remember the other one. Oh, and compassion, which I actually scored
00:06:11.480 high end. So that's fine. But politeness is the one it's kind of named badly politeness.
00:06:15.940 If you score low in it, you're less likely to appreciate authoritative figures or authority
00:06:21.940 figures. So you're less likely to trust authority, which just means you think, I think it just means
00:06:26.640 you think for yourself, but I agree on that. I think I scored about the same as you. And I also
00:06:33.020 scored very low in neuroticism. Okay. That's good. That's probably why you're calm and nice
00:06:37.600 to people. If you're not flustered easily. Right, right. No, I keep my cool in all those
00:06:41.820 situations. That's how you change people's minds. Ah, okay. So is that what you put in your book
00:06:46.740 about how you influence enemies? Did you just stay calm? Just be chill? Well, basically, I mean,
00:06:52.180 if you're having a conversation with someone, you're trying to change their mind. I mean,
00:06:54.940 I found the best way to do it is by asking people questions.
00:06:57.920 You can weave the facts and things into your questions.
00:06:59.820 But I'm sure you've debated people, I've debated people, and you get there and you get angry
00:07:04.580 or you're just trying to shout facts at someone.
00:07:07.020 It's a very bad way to actually try and change people's minds when you start letting your emotions get into it.
00:07:11.980 I'm not really the type of conservative who's like,
00:07:13.880 facts don't care about your feelings and that's where we have to go.
00:07:16.360 That's not really what I'm saying.
00:07:17.860 But it's more like, okay, if you're going to have a good conversation with someone,
00:07:20.220 then you have to be able to stay calm.
00:07:21.580 You have to be able to ask questions that are not going to just tell them what to think,
00:07:25.840 but have them think for themselves and say, okay, I couldn't answer this guy's question.
00:07:29.260 Maybe I should do some more research on my own.
00:07:31.080 Even if you don't change that person's mind right there where you are, they have to then say,
00:07:34.700 okay, I don't know how to answer this guy's questions.
00:07:36.820 I'm going to go home and maybe watch some videos or whatever it might be to find out.
00:07:41.980 Okay.
00:07:42.820 So you're just trying to get people to think until they're stumped and they're like,
00:07:45.800 wait a minute, logical fallacy somewhere here. 1.00
00:07:48.340 Yeah, basically it's more of a stump kind of thing than like a, Hey, Hey, look at this stupid 1.00
00:07:54.080 liberal who I just embarrassed on this video. It's more like, I want to change this person's 0.99
00:07:58.580 mind, or at least if I'm not changing this person's mind, the people who are watching
00:08:01.760 might learn something or at least have a tactic that they can use to go out and talk to people.
00:08:06.760 Hmm. Interesting. Okay. I don't know if I do that very much. I don't think I care enough about any,
00:08:13.260 like one topic, I think to just to bother with it. Like, yeah, that's what you think. Okay.
00:08:19.640 I don't, I don't really, and I don't think I enjoy debate to be honest.
00:08:23.840 Yeah. It's not all that fun. The debating. I mean, I'll find that when I go out on the street
00:08:28.200 and I get someone who's very angry with me, like we went to this, this, this protest in Glendale
00:08:32.840 the other day, it was a teacher's union protest. So there were teachers and parents who were
00:08:36.860 protesting the saying, we want LGBT education in our schools. And I got all these people who know
00:08:42.800 me and they're coming up and saying, F you, Will, PragerU, you're the worst and all these 0.97
00:08:46.700 terrible things calling me just homophobe. Like they wouldn't have conversation with me. A lot 0.98
00:08:50.560 of them just wanted to debate me and yell at me. And like those types of conversations,
00:08:54.080 it's just not fun. It's not fun to just have someone come up and already have this preconceived
00:08:58.740 notion of you and then just try and dunk on you that way. And I don't want to do it back to them.
00:09:03.400 I want to have good conversations. So those types of things. Yeah. I mean, I feel, I feel the same
00:09:07.120 way. It's not fun. So you said they were protesting in order to have LGBTQ education in schools.
00:09:15.400 Isn't it already in schools? What's the need for a protest there? Or was Glendale something else?
00:09:21.540 Yeah. I mean, especially in California, it's definitely in schools. Glendale is like a suburb
00:09:25.120 in Los Angeles. There's like Burbank, Glendale, some, some other ones there. So it's a suburb.
00:09:29.800 They have their own school board and all that. So there was, there was all these things that
00:09:34.240 came out on the Daily Caller about leaked emails between upper board members talking about
00:09:39.200 conservatives are the worst, and we're going to push this stuff on kids.
00:09:42.300 Then there were all these people coming after the Disney stuff saying,
00:09:45.260 well, we need to support this and make sure that it doesn't get shut down in California.
00:09:49.280 That's really what they were there for. So much of it is just coded in the sense of,
00:09:54.240 oh, this is about love, this is about acceptance, we're here to make sure that children can be
00:09:58.220 whatever they want. Then you get down to it, and you start looking at the books that they're
00:10:01.740 pushing on people. You look at how they're telling kids not to tell their parents about it and
00:10:05.920 thinking that parents always have a skewed view and are the devil. They're easily able to lie
00:10:11.900 about what they're actually teaching to try and make it seem like this loving movement.
00:10:15.700 When I got there, they were incredibly hateful towards me.
00:10:20.340 You mentioned something about Disney. Can you fill me in on the details? I don't know if I'm
00:10:24.620 aware of what's going on. In Florida, with Disney and all the other things that Ron DeSantis has
00:10:29.760 done. He's basically done the don't say gay bill, as they call it.
00:10:33.380 Okay. Sorry, I'm going to slow you down. I have no idea how I'm not super aware of this,
00:10:39.820 because I really should be, because I have a podcast. I haven't podcasted in a while. It's
00:10:42.700 been like three months. I feel like I haven't been doing anything other than computer work.
00:10:47.020 What is the DeSantis don't say gay bill? Can you give me the background? Let's start with that,
00:10:52.480 then go into Disney and then go from there. Yeah. Basically, the don't say gay bill is
00:10:57.540 a bill that was signed by DeSantis that essentially says, hey, we don't want this LGBT education
00:11:04.260 being taught to kids up to third grade in public school. And so now you are not allowed to teach
00:11:09.540 that type of education to children up to third grade in Florida. And I think, I mean, I think
00:11:14.320 it's an amazing win. And so, but the way that the left handled that, I mean, it's not called the
00:11:17.960 don't say gay bill. That's not what it's really called. That's what the left has used as their
00:11:21.380 moniker for it saying, oh, in Florida, you can't say gay anymore. You can't say the word gay around 0.62
00:11:26.720 kids. Otherwise, you might go to jail. This level of exaggeration that these people have. 0.67
00:11:30.800 That's where I really spawned from. Then, with Disney, there was Disney that was pushing
00:11:35.940 the LGBT content in their movies and many of their other products. DeSantis decided
00:11:42.340 to get rid of Disney's tax status as basically their own entity in the state of Florida,
00:11:48.360 so that now they have to pay taxes and don't have their own entity, just like any other
00:11:52.020 business in the state, which I think Disney ended up losing $35 billion. Yeah. So that's really
00:11:58.880 what happened. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Good for that guy. Huge. Serious. Yeah. I don't know how
00:12:07.940 anybody could argue that they should be teaching that stuff to people under third grade. That's
00:12:12.680 so unreasonable as it is. You don't teach sex ed to kids under third grade, I think. Right. I don't
00:12:17.340 think I learned about it until fourth grade in Canada back in the day. I think I learned it in
00:12:21.920 fifth grade. Yeah. That seems totally reasonable. Wow. Okay. So they were upset about Disney.
00:12:28.160 Yeah. Again, it's not even the, it's, they say that it's about love and acceptance and that's
00:12:32.600 what they're teaching. But when you look at the materials and you see what's in there and you see
00:12:36.500 some of these videos of TikToker teachers that are coming out and saying like, oh yeah, we have
00:12:41.120 this transition closet at our school and the kids can come in, change their clothes in my classroom
00:12:46.500 and then don't tell your parents about it, that's what's being taught.
00:12:50.940 That's what's really horrible about it.
00:12:52.560 It's really insidious because it's being pushed on children so much
00:12:56.080 that I think DeSantis did exactly the right thing.
00:12:59.060 I wish other people would do more like what DeSantis did.
00:13:02.680 Do you think he's going to stay in power in Florida?
00:13:06.200 In terms of winning the next election?
00:13:08.400 Or you mean going into running for office as president?
00:13:11.640 Well, I mean, I've heard rumors about that.
00:13:15.420 But I mean, just staying in power in general, or do you think Florida is doomed like the
00:13:19.840 rest of the country?
00:13:21.320 No, I think Florida is on the right path more than almost any other state, except for maybe
00:13:26.120 Idaho.
00:13:27.140 The lady in Idaho today who's within the government there just said that they want Idaho to be
00:13:32.180 this Christian state founded on Christian values.
00:13:35.160 I mean, it was very based, right?
00:13:36.960 And now, but I think Governor DeSantis is doing everything right in Florida where he's coming
00:13:41.500 and saying, listen, I don't care what the left says about me.
00:13:44.120 I don't care what these people on social media say about me.
00:13:46.660 I don't care what the New York Times writes about me.
00:13:48.540 I'm going to do what is best for my people.
00:13:51.240 And that's what he's doing.
00:13:52.240 And every single conservative basically that I know of, except for maybe like the National
00:13:56.320 Review types of people, say DeSantis is just the best because he's doing things that conservatives
00:14:01.520 haven't done since Ronald Reagan, really.
00:14:03.700 And that's winning.
00:14:04.800 And conservatives have really forgot how to win in basically every sense of the word.
00:14:09.240 Yeah.
00:14:09.520 Okay.
00:14:09.880 That's interesting.
00:14:10.800 Where are you right now?
00:14:11.860 Where are you based?
00:14:12.960 I'm in LA.
00:14:13.820 Yeah. I'm in LA. So definitely not like Florida. No, unfortunately. Yeah. No, it's hell on earth
00:14:18.980 here. Yeah. How do you manage to survive in California? You must feel stifled.
00:14:25.580 I do feel stifled, but it is also enjoyable with all of the people around who disagree with me
00:14:31.360 being like the black sheep can be kind of fun. You know, it's like if, if people all agree with
00:14:37.140 me, then I, I'm, I do get a little bit antsy in the sense that it's not so interesting to be
00:14:42.500 around people if everyone's just talking about conservative politics all the time. But then
00:14:46.220 again, as well, my quality of life would go up tremendously if I was living somewhere else. But
00:14:50.200 you know, you know, PragerU does is based here in LA. So I'm kind of, I'm kind of shoehorned in
00:14:55.340 for now. Okay. That's fair. So you mentioned a fiance and I swear floating around Instagram,
00:15:02.420 I've seen this not to be like objective about anybody, but absolutely gorgeous girl that turns
00:15:08.880 out to be your fiance that's European, like a sub conservative from Europe. How did that happen?
00:15:15.180 How did you snag that? Yeah. Conservative from Europe is also an anomaly in and of itself. So
00:15:20.140 for me to be able to find her. So actually she, she had met Dennis Prager at an event in Hungary
00:15:25.380 last September. And then she did this speech in Sweden all about COVID mandates and everything
00:15:30.000 like that. And she was, she had known who I was. So she sent it to me and she said, Hey, Will,
00:15:35.320 I love your stuff. Can you review this speech for me? And I said, sure. I'll review it. You're
00:15:40.220 beautiful. I'll look at this. And then I was like, well, I'll review the speech for you and
00:15:44.280 tell you what I think, but I have to call you and tell you trying to get her number. And she's like,
00:15:47.680 okay, you can get my number, but you have to ask Dennis Prager for it. So I asked Dennis Prager
00:15:51.440 for her number, got her number, and then basically said, don't ever doubt me again.
00:15:56.160 And then that's how it all started from then. And so then I was able to get out to Europe and see
00:16:01.340 and just, it's really been incredible. She's the most incredible woman I've ever met.
00:16:07.140 That's awesome. I'm so happy for you. That's so fun.
00:16:10.480 Thank you. Thank you. It was fun to take the personality test together. That was a good time.
00:16:15.400 Did you hook them together? You know, you can loop them together and I mean,
00:16:19.080 you can do it by yourself, but to compare results.
00:16:22.200 Yeah, we did the comparison results thing. And so the thing that is so great about her and I,
00:16:26.400 I know some people, I don't know, people disagree with this. Her and I are very,
00:16:30.060 very similar. We're like the same person. In some ways, it's like I've fallen in love with myself
00:16:35.100 even more than I already could. And so, her and I are very, very similar. And in many of the
00:16:40.020 categories, we were quite the same. On our politics, we're basically exactly the same.
00:16:44.020 We don't disagree on much. We have very similar values. And so, when we did the test, we were
00:16:48.320 like, wow, even just based on this test, we're very similar. And I think that's a good thing.
00:16:52.700 I think it's a good thing to be similar to the person that you're with, especially if you're
00:16:56.700 in a place like, like me or you or, or what she's doing and you, you need someone when you're getting
00:17:01.860 so much hate all the time, you need someone who's going to be a fan of yours. I think that the person
00:17:05.960 who you, you marry should be your number one fan and they should, they should really be on your
00:17:10.520 side. That's, that's what I think. Yeah, I completely agree. I also agree with the,
00:17:16.140 somebody similar to yourself. Although I think that also depends on what type of personality
00:17:19.960 you have. Like you're probably hyper conscientious. So being with someone else who's hyper conscientious
00:17:25.540 is like necessary, or they're just going to torture you to death. Right. They're not going
00:17:29.300 to want to go anywhere. They're not going to have any drive. They're going to be messy and you're
00:17:31.940 just going to be like disgusted. So I think like if you're hyper conscientious, you have to be with
00:17:36.900 someone else who's hyper conscientious. Um, if you're extroverted, you probably should be with
00:17:41.380 someone else who's extroverted, or you're going to want to talk to people and they're not going
00:17:45.100 to want to. And then agreeableness is the interesting one. So, cause you struck, you
00:17:49.960 strike me right off the bat as someone who's low in agreeableness. Um, otherwise you wouldn't be
00:17:53.600 able to do what you do. And it's really rare for a female to also be low in agreeableness. It's
00:17:59.020 like more rare. It's not super rare. Um, but even me, I said, um, agreeableness splits into two and
00:18:04.640 my compassion is really high. My politeness is really low. So it puts me at pretty much average,
00:18:09.000 um, which I think is good. But for someone with your personality, I'd say finding someone similar
00:18:15.260 would be super fun. Otherwise. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's very low on agreeableness as well,
00:18:21.600 which, which hasn't caused any problems to be honest. It's been, it's been great because we
00:18:25.440 see things that are going on. Yeah. I mean, we see things going on and we both go very strong
00:18:29.860 on them, which has been great. And since we don't really disagree on much, uh, there's no like
00:18:35.220 contention there where we're butting heads because we're both stubborn or anything like that.
00:18:38.740 So it's, it's all worked out really well. How do you guys feel? Okay. I'm just going to have to
00:18:44.600 get, I, we already talked about this online. I'm just going to have to get you both on,
00:18:47.540 but we'll do that in person at some point i'm planning on moving to miami so and i'll have a
00:18:53.340 studio there so we can do that uh we can do that then where was i going with this i'm moving to
00:18:59.880 miami because i've got these terrible tree allergies and so it's giving me a brain fog
00:19:03.520 it's making me less productive and i cannot have that like like i need not allergic to anything
00:19:08.700 that's that's amazing yeah that's amazing what is like why that's so unfair do you know how much
00:19:16.800 easier your life is well like forget about being white and male the fact that you're not allergic
00:19:21.380 to anything i know it's a much higher privilege yeah yeah oh i really do but i i have enough of
00:19:27.360 my own health problems i mean i have i have gout which is terrible you need the carnivore diet
00:19:33.460 have you heard of the carnivore diet will of course i have listen i i've been doing the
00:19:37.460 carnivore diet in a little bit i mean i'm still i'm doing it somewhat i mean i've basically done
00:19:42.280 the carnivore diet my whole life because vegetables are disgusting, but I, I, I'm getting, I like,
00:19:48.080 I've just been eating cheeseburgers every day for the past week. And I think it's great.
00:19:53.660 No, no bun, no buns. Just, just a cheeseburger. Okay. I would try that, but I'd like seriously
00:20:00.180 for gout, gout's unpleasant. I, and I, my arthritis was kind of gouty. So, um, I dropped
00:20:06.140 the dairy and see, like drop the dairy and see what happens. Dairy was a huge, huge problem for
00:20:10.620 my arthritis. This cheese makes it taste so good though. It changes the whole thing.
00:20:16.980 You could try it for like three weeks, just see what happens and then eat a bunch of cheese and
00:20:21.020 see what happens. No, I'll try it. I think the, my, at least my doctor said the number one thing
00:20:25.140 is the alcohol is to not be drinking. That causes the inflammation. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't
00:20:32.880 know if I buy that. Yeah. I don't think, I don't think that's the problem. I think it's the dairy.
00:20:38.460 You should do a test. Go, go dairy list for a month and eat a bunch of dairy and see what
00:20:42.640 happens. Go alcohol from alcohol list for a month and then have some vodka sodas and see what
00:20:47.440 happens. Right. But that means on the days that I'm not doing dairy, I just need to drink a lot
00:20:51.460 every day to really test out the theory. That could work. I'm just, I'm just actually telling
00:20:57.720 you this cause I'm going to be putting out a hangover pill, which is going to discredit me
00:21:01.020 further, which I'm, you know, I'm prepared for. So I'm really just like alcohol is not bad.
00:21:06.320 And then later I'm going to come out and be like, here's my hangover pill.
00:21:09.440 Wait, what do you mean a hangover pill?
00:21:10.680 Like something you developed?
00:21:12.560 Okay.
00:21:13.200 Okay.
00:21:13.740 I'm going to sell you on this, but it's legit and it's not available yet.
00:21:17.060 So you can go out and buy it even though I'm not selling it yet.
00:21:20.400 The, um, the herbs called dihydromyricetin, which isn't super catchy.
00:21:25.140 So I'm going to rename it after party, which is way catchier, but it's, it's called dihydromyricetin.
00:21:29.960 That almost sounds like a drug.
00:21:32.100 Yeah.
00:21:32.500 Well, anyway, I was, um, I was in pretty rough shape in university and I was drinking a lot
00:21:37.500 and I was lying in bed one day and I was like, this is the level of hangover no human should
00:21:41.740 experience. And it's 20 like 11, 2012, someone must've come up with a hangover pill. So I said,
00:21:47.980 so I started doing some research and I found dihadromyricetin and I found studies they'd
00:21:51.720 done on rats. And so they take these poor rats and they pump them full of alcohol and then they
00:21:57.060 do maze tests. So they'll do maze tests with sober rats and they'll do this one test where they
00:22:02.200 flip the rat on its back and wait to see how long it takes to right itself. So that's another test
00:22:08.500 they'll do the maze test and then they'll do a drowning test. So how long does a rat swim before
00:22:13.180 it just gives up swimming? And they have their one group, which is just normal rats. And then
00:22:18.760 they have their really drunk rats. And then they have the rats that are drunk, but they've also
00:22:23.200 given dihydromyricetin. And the difference between the rats that were just drunk and had dihydromyricetin
00:22:28.660 were massive and you can just read it in the study is they had less anxiety going through the
00:22:32.980 maze. So they go through the maze quicker. They write themselves faster and they take longer to
00:22:36.420 drown. And I was like, that's pretty interesting. So I started finding the compound online and I
00:22:41.800 started taking it when I was like 20 and it made a massive difference to my hangovers. Cause I used
00:22:47.880 to get, we're just brutally awful hangovers. Cause I used to drink too much anyway. Um,
00:22:53.220 there's more research on it that it works weekly on GABA and you get a GABA crash after you
00:22:58.640 drink. So you can get like anxiety with the, yeah. Yeah. There you go. Um, and so it works
00:23:06.740 weekly on GABA, which means it's not scary, like a benzodiazepine. It doesn't saturate the receptors,
00:23:12.620 but it works weekly enough. That'll reduce the anxiety, but it also increases how fast you
00:23:18.740 metabolize alcohol and how easily you break it down. It's Matt. It's this magical herb. Um,
00:23:26.540 And so I'm coming out with that. But I actually do believe that the gout thing would benefit a lot from reducing dairy. And I don't think vodka is the problem. There's like nothing in vodka. Yeah, no grain left. Like it's it's just it's like ethanol. Yeah. You see, I almost feel like the hangover is God's punishment for people doing stupid things. I almost feel like we shouldn't make a hangover pill to make people have to pay for their mistakes.
00:23:52.560 see i i like partly agree with you but then you try the hangover pill and you're like well god
00:23:58.820 probably also made this pill for the people who do the research yeah right yeah there's a way i
00:24:05.780 think you're right yourself yeah yeah no i would definitely do the hangover pill if you if you
00:24:09.880 developed it i think that would be a lifesaver it is it is i'll send it to you when it's out
00:24:14.560 okay especially the older you get it gets worse oh yeah i didn't have like i had miserable
00:24:21.180 hangovers forever, but I didn't have the anxiety. And now it's like brain fog too. And it's not like
00:24:27.960 it's a hangover cure, but it reduces it, I think by about 80%. So if you do go out to a party or
00:24:33.900 something, you're not screwed up for like, you know, two days minimum. Right. Yeah. No, I'll
00:24:41.100 definitely try it. That'll be a life, a life changer for me because the hangovers ruin like
00:24:45.900 an entire day, entire next day is gone because of it. And then you can't work. Yeah, exactly.
00:24:51.520 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's not, not doable. Uh, okay. So you went on a book tour, right?
00:24:58.760 Recently. Yeah. All over. How did you manage that in COVID?
00:25:04.480 Well, so the way that we did it is that we worked with turning point USA, first of all,
00:25:08.840 and so turning point USA kind of sponsored the tour. And so they reached out to a lot of student
00:25:12.880 groups across America and said, Hey, if any of you guys want to bring Will out for an event,
00:25:17.500 you can fill out this form and then we're going to kind of put them all together for a book tour.
00:25:20.620 And so I was able to do most of them on campus. So I did, I did one month or a month and a week
00:25:26.180 of book touring. And so that was the longest I've ever been on the road. I mean, it was,
00:25:30.100 it was a really tough time. I'm going to be honest with you. I mean, I'm sure, you know,
00:25:33.200 you and your dad and everything know about the touring and what it's like. I mean, it's,
00:25:37.480 it can be just, there's nothing more exhausting than doing that. You know, when you got to wake
00:25:41.900 up and travel and then do it all again. And you're doing interviews the whole time, selling the book.
00:25:46.100 It's quite difficult. And so I did a lot of them on campus. And then I did a few private events
00:25:50.440 of people who I knew who wanted to sponsor me, some in Tampa, Utah, Texas, things like that.
00:25:55.160 And then on the weekends I was doing churches. So there really wasn't, yeah. So there really
00:26:00.740 wasn't a dull moment. It was pretty, it was every single day for a month and a week, a new city and
00:26:05.560 event. Yeah. Kind of makes you sick of traveling, huh? Yeah. No, I didn't travel for a month after
00:26:12.740 that. I stayed home. I was like, this is, this is, I'm so exhausted. And it wasn't even just
00:26:17.760 exhaustion. I mean, truly going on that book tour. And I think there's a degree of, of PTSD
00:26:23.200 that comes from something like that. I don't want to try and self-diagnose myself or anything like
00:26:27.460 that, but, but when you're at events and you're getting hundreds and hundreds of people coming
00:26:31.820 up to you and loving everything you're doing, or, you know, you're getting all those dopamine hits
00:26:36.360 and you're doing these huge events and then you go home and there's not that anymore. It's a
00:26:40.600 really strange feeling. I'm sure you guys can relate. It's, it's a, it's a strange thing to
00:26:46.280 have to deal with. Yeah, that's interesting. I think I like, um, first of all, I haven't done
00:26:53.920 a tour like that. And so I did a bunch of the shows I opened for a bunch of my dad's shows.
00:26:58.280 and so i think it's a bit different because people were there to see him so i didn't have
00:27:03.540 and then i also knew how exhausted i was even just doing that because of the traveling and then with
00:27:09.860 this ridiculous diet i'm on adding that into the mix like not fun i have avoided uh it's too late
00:27:16.780 i've already said it like i avoided a lot of the interactions because i knew that's a huge amount
00:27:22.140 of the draining part right it's just it's exhausting talking to a lot of people especially
00:27:27.000 because people have like really intense stories. I mean, I'm sure you saw this come at you and
00:27:31.560 they tell you this incredible, intense story. And it's like, it's emotionally, it's hard
00:27:36.140 emotionally. And so I think it, and so even though I avoided that part, I was exhausted.
00:27:41.760 Dad, dad was super exhausted, but he's got like an endless supply of energy somehow.
00:27:48.520 Yeah. Yeah. I can imagine. I mean, it's really difficult and it's great. You get to meet so
00:27:52.680 many people. I mean, I met thousands and thousands of people going on this tour and they're just
00:27:57.940 the best people. I mean, to come out and come to an event like that and come buy books and do the
00:28:03.160 signing and all that, these are amazing people. It's so great to meet all them. The fact that I
00:28:08.100 have any fans at all, it just blows me away every single day. And so it's great to go and do those
00:28:14.820 things, but it is draining. There's nothing more exhausting until you tour. Yeah. It's wild too,
00:28:20.920 cause I hadn't, you don't think about it, right? You don't think about it until you're kind of
00:28:24.300 on it. Um, and I was always shocked. I remember I bought tickets to see somebody and they got sick
00:28:30.600 and I was like, Oh, how could they get sick? It's like, I don't know. They're just like a
00:28:33.660 person touring. They're very likely to get, to get sick. But, um, I've met a couple of musicians
00:28:38.980 who toured, who toured for like years and they didn't have a home. Like their life was touring
00:28:45.920 and they didn't have a home and by the time they were 30 they were just like screwed like one
00:28:51.820 person i talked to they were like i almost died like it almost killed me i was living on a bus
00:28:56.640 and i was in an airplane and i was had a show every night and like and now he's like done
00:29:03.920 i guess it's rough yeah i think i think it adds yeah i i really think it adds a level of
00:29:11.620 almost depression. And when it's, when it's over, because it's just so much, you're doing so much
00:29:17.140 and then it's done. You're not there. And it's like, wow, what am I supposed to do now? I don't
00:29:21.420 have all these people. I'm not giving a speech. I'm not selling my books. It, it, it bums you out
00:29:25.920 for sure. There's a level to that. I think my dad had that. And I was always like, you have a lot
00:29:32.240 to, cause I'm like, I manage his brand. It was just, that's a simple way of putting it. And so
00:29:38.540 when he, whenever he stopped touring, he's like, I don't know what to do. I was like, no, we can
00:29:41.900 feel like you have lots to do. We don't want to overdo it. Like you have a podcast. You could
00:29:45.780 record every day if you wanted to, you have books you're writing. Like there's more than that. Like,
00:29:51.260 but you, you know, you don't want to cram your schedule to death, but I mean, maybe it was just
00:29:56.180 the entire social aspect and then having that cut. That is. Yeah. I think so. I think that I think
00:30:03.320 there's something weird that goes on your brain. I can't tell it. I can't not a neurologist or
00:30:07.980 anything to say exactly what happens, but I know that there is something difficult about seeing so
00:30:12.240 many people and having so many people be fans of what you're doing to then go to not having that
00:30:18.140 and to just be at home in your apartment with your dog watching YouTube and, and being like, wow,
00:30:24.640 what the hell is going on now? What am I supposed to do now? It's a strange feeling.
00:30:29.360 That's interesting. Yeah. I suppose there are no studies done on that.
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00:31:56.060 uh, Elon Musk buying Twitter. How do you feel about that? Oh, we could get really into this
00:32:02.060 one. I mean, you responded to my Instagram story the other day. That was about Dr. Oz,
00:32:05.680 which we could get into as well, but this, this is, uh, I was talking about Dr. Oz.
00:32:10.100 I know you like Dr. Oz. I don't agree with that. I think Dr. Oz is, is, is bad for America.
00:32:16.240 Uh, in terms of the Elon Musk stuff, Elon Musk, I'm not much of a fan of,
00:32:22.420 i think that conservatives how are you just not being are you like that kid at school that didn't
00:32:29.700 like harry potter because they're like yeah i don't like harry potter like yeah you do
00:32:33.400 everyone likes harry potter well i also didn't like harry potter ah no harry potter no harry
00:32:39.740 potter is for women and children lord of the rings is for men i watched lord of the rings
00:32:45.040 and read lord of the rings that was my thing but you know thrones not as much as lord of the rings
00:32:50.760 but I did, I read all the books and watched the show and then they ruined the show. I mean,
00:32:54.300 just terrible. Game of Thrones was great. Yeah. The books were so much better. You know what
00:32:58.240 pissed me off about Game of Thrones and then we'll get back to Elon. Okay. I'm just going to say this,
00:33:02.240 this isn't, this isn't nice, but Sansa should have been hotter in the show. Like they make
00:33:08.300 this huge thing about how perfect she is in the show. That made me mad. I agree. She wasn't the
00:33:15.880 most attractive person didn't she date harry styles the lady or who did she who did she date
00:33:21.720 the actress i forget anyway one of the brothers there was like a band a couple of brothers wow
00:33:28.640 yeah no i'm not that up yeah i don't know whatever anyway yeah she wasn't the best looking i mean
00:33:33.760 denarius was obviously the best denarius was yeah and then rob stark's wife before he got stabbed
00:33:38.900 she was she was beautiful as well yeah she should have had her be sansa except i guess she wouldn't
00:33:44.120 fit with the description. Yeah. But they did wait for everyone else. I don't know. Yeah. Anyway,
00:33:50.740 anyway, no, it was a very important conversation from a show that ended like four years ago.
00:33:57.260 It's still really good. Are you, I want to rewatch it. I would love to do that. Yeah. I rewatch the
00:34:02.540 Lord of the Rings about every three months. So I should get on game of Thrones as well and do it.
00:34:06.820 Wow. Every three months, Jordan made me my fiance. He made me watch Lord of the Rings.
00:34:14.120 like the first week we, we met, I think it was a test. It was like, will she do it? Like all the
00:34:19.000 movies, which I did. It was like, this is like, honestly, yeah. Yeah. Great. Extended edition.
00:34:24.860 You have a good fiance then. Yeah. It was, it's a good, it's a good show, but there's definitely
00:34:30.820 like, I definitely think it appeals more to men and I have a pretty masculine personality. And I
00:34:34.940 was still like, some of these scenes, like they go on, they just go on. And there's a lot of
00:34:40.440 emotion there too. There was like, why are you, why is there so much emotion in the scene and
00:34:44.700 who is it appealing to? Like not, there's not a motherly instinct, I don't think. So it must be
00:34:49.460 appealing to emotions in men, which is weird. Right. It's like when Sam is going, I can't
00:34:55.520 carry it for you, but I can carry you. And he puts Frodo on his back and he takes him up to
00:34:59.500 Mount Doom. I mean, that's like, that's, you're thinking of your best friend, your brother. I
00:35:03.020 mean, it's, it's, it's truly powerful stuff. It's really the most incredible man. Anyway. Okay. We
00:35:08.840 You don't have to get into this whole Lord of the Rings.
00:35:10.760 I could talk about Lord of the Rings.
00:35:12.460 I've made plenty of videos all about the Lord of the Rings, about Tolkien, about what they're
00:35:16.640 doing with the new Amazon show.
00:35:18.380 Plenty of stuff.
00:35:19.440 Oh, yeah.
00:35:20.860 Anyway, Elon.
00:35:22.180 Okay.
00:35:22.620 We'll go back to Elon Musk, okay?
00:35:24.400 It's a very loose podcast, which I like.
00:35:26.400 It's interesting that way.
00:35:27.880 Elon Musk.
00:35:28.280 I'm not a fan of Elon Musk for very legitimate reasons.
00:35:30.900 I am not a fan of the technocratic agenda of many of the people who are in charge of this
00:35:36.080 country and in charge of really the world right now.
00:35:38.840 Elon Musk comes out and says, I support the Canadian truckers, yet he's developing technology
00:35:44.460 that makes self-driving cars. I am against self-driving cars. Just because we can have
00:35:48.520 the technology to do something doesn't mean that it's a good idea. Truck drivers are the No. 1
00:35:53.820 job here in the States, basically, the most employed job, and you're going to get rid
00:35:57.060 of those for self-driving people. What are you going to do? Hollow out the entire middle
00:36:00.560 class of this country by doing that? The middle of America? There's the stuff with the Neuralink
00:36:04.860 and the brain chips and improving humanity. I just think there are too many problems with
00:36:10.480 Elon Musk as a guy. He also has ties to the CCP and many investments there. I love what
00:36:17.320 he's doing with Twitter. I think that if he can make it a free speech platform for all,
00:36:20.580 that's a great thing. I'm not going to knock him for it, but I'm not going to be this person
00:36:24.980 who comes and just stands with Elon Musk through everything because he said some funny jokes
00:36:31.760 about Elizabeth Warren. It's like, that's, I don't really care. I care about what's actually
00:36:35.600 getting done and what's happening in the future. That's what means the most to me.
00:36:40.800 I just like Elon's Twitter.
00:36:43.900 I want to be able to answer emails on my phone while I'm driving.
00:36:51.220 That's on my priority list. I want that.
00:36:54.580 I get that. I get that. But you know, then you have self-driving cars and now in Europe,
00:36:58.100 they're just putting forward these things in cars that are saying, okay,
00:37:00.780 if you get to a certain speed limit, then we can shut you down, right? That your car can't go past
00:37:05.880 a certain speed limit. That was bound to happen. Yeah. And so then it's like a certain speed limit
00:37:10.560 and then they say, okay, actually you've used too much carbon this month driving, so you can't drive
00:37:14.960 anymore. Yeah. So it's like all these things go together. And so this type of agenda of this
00:37:20.000 technological revolution, I think is, is truly, is probably the biggest issue for humanity. It's
00:37:27.420 not an American or a left versus right issue. It's a humanitarian issue.
00:37:31.920 I didn't hear about that European car thing. I wonder if my dad knows about that. I'm going
00:37:35.660 to call him and tell him after this podcast. Yeah, you should ask him. Yeah, it's really
00:37:40.000 terrible. And these things slither in and they always use it under the guise of, oh, technology
00:37:43.900 is just making everyone's life better, helping people. And then you think about people in this
00:37:48.300 country and everyone's so nihilistic. You don't have to go meet people anymore. You can swipe
00:37:52.740 right for them on Tinder. You don't have to cook. You can order your food. Everyone can be an Uber
00:37:56.840 driver and girls can be OnlyFans models and that's how you make money. I think the technological
00:38:01.720 revolution has been detrimental in a lot of ways to America and the West in general.
00:38:08.940 Even capitalism, in a sense, as a conservative, we talk about free markets all the time, but
00:38:12.660 you can't help but say the free markets and the industrial revolution drove it so that
00:38:16.720 people no longer had to put families first like they used to in this country and across
00:38:20.780 the West. There's a lot of problems with this, but I don't think a lot of people are waking
00:38:25.580 up to it. Here's a question. Sure. Here's a question. So you're a conservative dude. Your
00:38:32.420 fiance is a conservative woman. What, what's your opinion on her role when you guys start having
00:38:39.900 kids? Because she has a social media following of her own. Yeah, no, I, I think that a lot of that
00:38:46.820 we've talked about it before and been like, okay, what do you want to do when we have kids? And,
00:38:50.380 and you're, you're looking forward to that. Do you want to stay home or what do you want to do?
00:38:53.620 she, as I said before about her, she is the most incredible woman I've ever met. She transcends
00:39:01.200 what other women are like. She transcends what most men are like in the way that she thinks
00:39:05.980 about ideas of the world and of politics and not just politics, but culture and humanity and
00:39:11.840 history are, I mean, she's, she's so incredible. What I, what I would say, and I hope this doesn't
00:39:17.620 sound simpy. I'm trying, this is really true. I truly believe this is that the, it would be
00:39:22.620 doing the world a disservice if she wasn't out there saying things, if she wasn't speaking her
00:39:27.880 mind because she's so good. And so I think that when it comes to having children, I think that
00:39:32.120 obviously she will need to prioritize that. That will be a priority and she will love those
00:39:36.660 children. And of course, and of course I will too, but you know, as the mother, she will have a
00:39:40.220 different role, but I think denying the world, her thoughts and opinions and the things she knows
00:39:45.220 would be a disservice to everyone else in the world. So I think she has to be able to do enough
00:39:49.940 of both be able to manage it while not sacrificing the children for it. That was so nice. That was
00:39:56.420 pretty nice. That was really nice to hear. I've talked to like, I talked to a lot of people and
00:40:00.680 I've been on some, I've talked to some, I wouldn't even say conservative men, more like the red pill
00:40:06.180 community men where they're like women's, you know, women stay home. And I know a lot of women
00:40:10.440 who actually like enjoy my best friend is having the time of her life with little kid, my sister
00:40:15.820 in law, same thing. She just had a little baby. She's having the time of her life. Although she
00:40:19.880 works as well, but like, and then me, and I think it's my, and I honestly think it's my personality
00:40:27.540 because I'm driven in a way that I know a lot of my friends aren't. Uh, if I change, like when I
00:40:35.340 have more kids, cause I would really like more kids. If I stayed home and didn't work, I would
00:40:40.880 go crazy and it would be not good for anybody. Like I'm not able to do it. And I've figured out
00:40:46.680 that I'm able to have a kid spend really quality time with that kid. It's different when they're
00:40:52.260 really little. Like if they're under a year old, they're kind of glued to you. And that's that.
00:40:57.020 But after that, I think depending on what type of woman you are, there is a way to balance it so
00:41:01.540 that you're able to work and fulfill one side of yourself that maybe not everybody has and also
00:41:07.060 have kids. And I think, I think it's important to talk about because I think a lot of women don't
00:41:11.200 have kids. A lot of women who are more driven don't have children because they're like, well,
00:41:16.740 I'm not going to be able to do it. Right. And I think that that's just a lie that there is a way
00:41:22.380 to do both. It's tricky and it's going to be trickier, I think for a woman than for a man,
00:41:27.140 because you're female. That's just like how the world is. But I think it's doable. It's good
00:41:33.200 that you guys have talked about that. Yeah. I think that if you're going to do both,
00:41:38.200 you will have to end up sacrificing parts of each. That's just, obviously you only have a
00:41:42.840 finite amount of time every single day. You have to sacrifice a part of each. I mean, I know
00:41:46.580 plenty of women who are conservative and they, they also have jobs and, and also provide for
00:41:52.340 their kids. And you can see some of them have sacrificed their kids for their career and the
00:41:56.620 things that they're doing. And it's like, if that's, if that's what you want to do, I,
00:42:00.180 I guess I get it. But throughout history, there have been women who have gone to work throughout
00:42:06.560 history. This isn't just a totally nuanced thing where women have stayed home forever.
00:42:11.220 But I think that women should be prioritizing kids over the career. If you're saying that you
00:42:19.200 are splitting it up and saying, okay, I'm going to do 50-50, that is only 50% of the time that
00:42:23.700 your kid is getting with you. And I think that studies show in basically every category that
00:42:28.540 if you want to have good kids with good values that you should spend more time with them. And
00:42:32.180 that's also a dad thing. That's also a dad thing. Dad should come home from work and at least spend
00:42:35.600 time with their kids, not just go up and go to sleep or watch TV. So it's a, it's a, it's a tied
00:42:40.440 together thing. Both of them have to put in the work for their kids. I mean, this is why I talk
00:42:44.260 to so many parents, uh, conservative parents who say, yeah, my kids now they're horrible leftists,
00:42:48.900 they're communists, socialists, they shave their head or whatever. And I'm like, that's partly
00:42:52.760 your fault. That's your fault for not taking enough interest in your child. You didn't have
00:42:57.340 dinner with them. You didn't sit down and talk to them by your values. You didn't take them to
00:43:00.760 church. That's your fault. If you want them to be good, you make them good yourself.
00:43:05.640 Yeah. And be careful about what school you put them in. Right. If you're like, Oh, I don't like
00:43:10.200 what that school's teaching my kids. I don't like their teacher. That teacher is teaching your kids
00:43:15.420 for like, what is it? Nine to three, five days a week. And you don't, you don't like that.
00:43:22.260 And you literally have an option here. It's like, Oh no, it's the closest school and I don't have
00:43:26.700 enough money so it needs to be a public school find a different one although to be fair public
00:43:31.720 schools it's tricky like you said it's very tricky so there's a problem there's actually a massive
00:43:38.340 problem there and not everybody can homeschool so no it's tricky but i mean i and i didn't grow
00:43:44.380 up now nowadays it's worse but i remember my dad took me out of class i don't even remember why
00:43:50.660 because i was little i was in grade like two three and four and be like oh you're staying home this
00:43:54.100 week. Like, why am I staying home this week? But like, sweet, I'm staying home this week.
00:43:57.940 And I later found out those were the more like the politically correct weeks where
00:44:01.320 guest speakers would come in and teach you about, I think it was, I think it was mostly like
00:44:07.180 relationships in a politically correct way. And my dad, like from early age was just like, nah,
00:44:12.780 staying home this week. Like, so there, I feel like there are kind of things you can dodge,
00:44:16.540 although it's pretty intertwined in how people are schooled now. So maybe, maybe I'm not being
00:44:22.900 sympathetic enough to people. But I feel like if you have a strong, like if you're at home and you
00:44:28.660 talk to your kids and you have dinner and you explain these things and you say, yeah, you know,
00:44:32.560 some of the things you're going to be taught aren't true. I've already told Scarlett that
00:44:36.460 when she comes home, she's like, is this true? I'm like, no. Well, so-and-so said it was true.
00:44:39.820 Well, people lie. Yeah. You have to think, yeah. The kids aren't going to know anything that isn't
00:44:47.180 told to them. And so I, I just find it funny that all these people come and talk about indoctrination
00:44:52.240 And they say, oh, you want to homeschool your kids or you want to make your kid a Christian.
00:44:55.820 You want to indoctrinate them with those values.
00:44:57.500 And it's like, in a way, yes.
00:44:59.780 I mean, not indoctrinate, but I want to, I want to give my kids these values.
00:45:03.780 I don't care about what you think about me, leftist.
00:45:05.740 I want to push these values, push these values on my kids to make them good people.
00:45:10.040 And then if you, if you send them to public school, then they're just indoctrinated by
00:45:13.840 the government.
00:45:14.600 So would I rather have them be indoctrinated by me or indoctrinated by you teacher who
00:45:20.720 has a transition closet?
00:45:21.680 It seems pretty obvious, but they don't want you to have, I mean, there are many people
00:45:26.200 on the left who don't want you to even have ownership of your kids.
00:45:28.700 Some of these radical wing of the left, they want to say, oh, the government basically
00:45:31.760 owns your kids.
00:45:32.360 You send them to school.
00:45:33.400 The parents don't get any say.
00:45:34.560 And now you're our kid.
00:45:37.120 That's nuts.
00:45:38.440 How, that's gotta be like, it's that, that transition closet you mentioned.
00:45:43.580 Like, I know that there are these TikToks that go viral that show some of these awful
00:45:48.020 things, but how frequent do you think that kind of thing is?
00:45:50.860 That's got to be more on the rare side, don't you think?
00:45:53.380 Yeah, of course.
00:45:54.060 I mean, you hear something like that, and obviously this isn't in every single classroom.
00:45:59.120 There's no doubt that this is an instance that has been showcased, and it's blowing
00:46:03.260 up on social media, and people are amplifying it.
00:46:06.340 But what you will see is that there are so many examples of people who want this taught.
00:46:11.740 I mean, when you look at the polling, when you look at all these pictures of teachers,
00:46:14.820 when you look at the amount of people who got mad at the Don't Say Gay Bill in Florida,
00:46:19.660 there's plenty of people who are for this leftist agenda in the schools. Not all of them are as
00:46:24.740 radical. Not all of them are coming out to their kids as they are and trying to push them into
00:46:30.580 some ideology. Some of them just are teaching a little bit better, of course. But there are many
00:46:35.420 people. And if you think about it, let's say that transition closet is just in one classroom.
00:46:40.840 Well, that's still one person's kid. That's still one person's kid that could be getting
00:46:45.980 indoctrinated or being groomed by a teacher. In many places, I think these are sexual predators. 0.95
00:46:51.720 I think that it just needs to be banned nationwide, this type of behavior, this type of education,
00:46:56.660 because it's not for children and it's ruining some kids' lives.
00:47:02.260 Yeah, 100%. I'm 100% with you. I mean, I'm probably conservative. I've always identified
00:47:08.220 as a libertarian. I've never identified as a conservative. It's like, no, I don't really
00:47:12.320 care. As long as everybody leaves me alone, I don't, I don't really care what, what goes on
00:47:16.160 out there, but what's going, what's going on in schools and like hormone replacement therapy for
00:47:22.680 kids. That is completely unforgivable. Of course. And that's why you should hate Dr. Oz because
00:47:28.780 Dr. Oz pushed for hormone blockers on kids. What? Yeah. Yeah. No. Dr. Oz is when I'd have to look
00:47:40.300 it up, but it was a whole thing about him pushing puberty blockers on kids. I swear. You got to
00:47:45.320 look this up. Look it up. You know how much fake news there is about Dr. Oz? You know how much fake
00:47:49.500 news there is about him? No, of course there's fake news about me. People use his face all the
00:47:52.800 time. Right. No, I understand, but I would recommend that you look this up. Anyone who's
00:47:57.120 listening, look up Dr. Oz and the puberty blockers. Look up Dr. Oz being tied to the
00:48:00.800 World Economic Forum. Dr. Oz not even living in the state of Pennsylvania that he lives in.
00:48:05.280 no way that sounds like conservative nonsense well i don't know yeah i don't know
00:48:11.900 sorry this is my asthma from this horrible state i live in this um i moved to tennessee in september
00:48:21.240 and i was like tennessee land of the free beautiful wonderful amazing place and then
00:48:27.840 the trees got me and i've been like chronically ill for eight months because i'm allergic to
00:48:31.680 everything. And the trees here bloom all the time. So I'm moving to Miami.
00:48:35.340 That's good. Yeah. Palm trees. They don't have that same effect.
00:48:38.360 No, they don't. And it's sunny there. They've introduced this new bill, which sounds nice.
00:48:43.960 Yes. No, you're going to have a great time with your kids in Florida.
00:48:46.960 Yeah. Yeah. We could go back to the, the libertarian thing. If you wanted to talk
00:48:52.880 about that, because I'm very not libertarian. Okay. Okay. Why you, cause you think you have
00:48:58.160 a duty to change. I mean, that's fair too. I understand that. Yeah. Why do you not like
00:49:04.260 libertarianism? So think about the far left in itself, right? You think about people who are
00:49:09.000 communists, you think about the ideology of Marxism and all of these ideologies work through
00:49:14.380 force. They have to have a revolution, a cultural revolution, maybe a violent revolution, whatever
00:49:20.100 it is to get what they want. They have to have a revolution. They have to take something over.
00:49:25.680 They have to convince a class that they are lower so that they can come and rise up.
00:49:29.640 When you have libertarians, then you now have people who say, leave me alone against an
00:49:35.320 ideology that says we're going to take over.
00:49:37.900 And so that is why I think that America is the way that it is, because we've basically
00:49:41.720 had libertarian, like liberal and libertarian people versus the left.
00:49:47.500 And the left doesn't take no for an answer where libertarians just say, okay, I'll just
00:49:50.580 leave it alone.
00:49:51.180 And so when you have real conservatism, or at least an ideology that prioritizes families and that sort of sense, then you actually have people pushing back. That's why people like DeSantis now. That's why a lot of real conservatives like DeSantis. That's why people like the country of Hungary. Because they're not like this just, oh, free market, like live and let live type of deal. They say, no, we are going to do things that are going to actually benefit our people. We're going to be on the aggressive. We're going to attack instead of just the live and let live.
00:50:21.160 And I don't mean to attack you or anything for being a Libertarian, it's just my thoughts
00:50:26.160 about Libertarianism. That ideology has made it so that now we have these trans...
00:50:31.380 I'll say, we just looked at a thing today from the Washington Post. In 2017, they were
00:50:35.220 talking about Confederate statues being bad, but the Founding Father is good. And you go
00:50:38.880 through all the different timelines, and now in 2022, they're coming out and saying,
00:50:42.980 let's change the name of George Washington University. And it's like, that's how their
00:50:46.860 ideology works. There's Washington Post saying, let's change George Washington University.
00:50:50.960 But that's how their ideology works, because it has to make people believe that there is
00:50:54.760 a revolution that has to be taken over for anything to be changed, whereas people who
00:50:59.820 say, no, let's just make it as free as possible, individualism, will always get ran over by
00:51:06.240 the people who say, we need a revolution.
00:51:09.400 Okay.
00:51:09.660 I can get behind part of that, and I agree with part of that.
00:51:12.660 At this point, part of the reason I built a podcast and I have certain guests on is
00:51:18.180 because I'm trying to push back against it.
00:51:19.880 I completely agree. It's gone too far. I probably start, well, I was pretty disagreeable. Like I was arguing about feminism, you know, in grade nine before it was cool. Um, but so I'm probably, I think the part of conservatism, conservatism that, that I didn't, that didn't appeal to me was there were elements of it that I just wasn't interested in.
00:51:45.540 like, uh, let's say back in 2013 when conservatism was more conservative than it is now,
00:51:50.140 cause it's moved over. Um, it was, I was always, you know, pro make, make drugs legal type of
00:51:56.340 thing, which I think a normal conservative would say, no, there needs to be like ban those,
00:52:01.940 but guns are okay. And I was like, well, guns are also okay, but like drugs are okay. And I
00:52:07.180 think I was just, I'm just okay with more things, but the fight element, I definitely agree with
00:52:13.580 you. Like what I, I mean, I, I left Canada. I talked about how the way COVID was handled was
00:52:20.680 ridiculous. I started talking about that. I think in June, the first time, right before I got COVID 0.75
00:52:25.580 the first time, like right away, I was like, if you can't shut things down though, you can't do
00:52:29.800 that. Like that's not going to go well. Um, but I see where you're coming from. Yeah. And so I,
00:52:37.240 I like, I don't know where I stand at the moment. Yeah. I mean, just an example of like,
00:52:42.000 imagine someone says, okay, you have to go fight someone to the death, but you can only use knives.
00:52:47.320 And so both of you walk into the room, you have a knife, and then the person who you're fighting
00:52:51.320 brought a gun and you say, Hey ref, that's unfair. This person brought a gun. And you're yelling
00:52:56.420 about how unfair it is at the same time they shoot you and they, and they win the fight.
00:52:59.640 So we can yell about how like unfair things are and say, you know, we just want to be left alone
00:53:04.080 and follow the rules and be like this. But these people again and again, we'll take advantage and
00:53:08.400 They don't live by the same rules that you and I live by. That's why we have to be on
00:53:13.060 the aggressive. Talking about the drugs and the guns and things, when you allow behavior
00:53:22.740 that is bad for people in a society, and people are probably going to think I sound fairly
00:53:29.200 authoritarian, but when you allow degeneracy in some societies and you allow them to run
00:53:34.140 rampant, as they kind of have in America and the West in many ways, then you will have a society
00:53:40.540 that even if they're left alone in their own homes, it bleeds out into the rest of the world.
00:53:44.700 And so that's really what we've got in the West today, is that you let people do all these things
00:53:49.280 and say it's all okay, and then it bleeds out everywhere else. And now again, you have this
00:53:53.520 stuff with the kids and it's really disgusting. What are your plans for the next year? Do you
00:53:58.120 have anything up and coming? Are you just working on your online platform? Are you writing anything?
00:54:02.420 What are your goals?
00:54:05.440 Working on my next book actually is my biggest goal.
00:54:08.740 And that's been a challenge because this next book is, it's not even like a conservative
00:54:15.300 book, the way that I'm trying to frame it.
00:54:18.100 It's a very like us versus them type of book, elites versus us.
00:54:22.760 And so it's been hard to, to, to find people who want to support that type of message.
00:54:27.980 I will say, even after how well my last book did.
00:54:30.640 And so that's been difficult, but really hammering in on that and trying to get, trying to get signed
00:54:35.500 there is really what I'm looking at for this year. And I think that it's, I say this first,
00:54:40.560 because I think that this book, especially for the audience I have, which is many people who
00:54:45.240 are younger, who probably haven't heard a lot of this stuff before is going to be a really
00:54:49.220 changing book for this country. Wow. How old is your, is your audience on average?
00:54:57.380 Yeah. I think I have about 50% of my audience that's under 34. And so the rest is older than
00:55:03.960 that. So yeah. So it's a pretty good amount of people who are actually pretty young. And when
00:55:07.240 you look at conservative politics in general, you know, it's definitely not that young. So
00:55:12.200 for me to have an audience of that age is, is, is pretty cool actually. Yeah. You know,
00:55:17.880 and I hate that just like, Oh, you're making things for young people. Like that's what you're
00:55:21.280 doing. You know, I, I don't really like that. I'm just glad that young people are actually coming
00:55:25.400 around to understand some of the things that we're talking about yeah yeah that's cool okay
00:55:33.360 i didn't ask anything on my giant list list of questions i know i mean you guys sent us the
00:55:40.760 topics and i didn't get any of the oh yeah sorry i was just like who's your fiance and why don't
00:55:47.800 you like dr oz and what's wrong with elon musk and i still can't believe you didn't like harry
00:55:52.900 potter though that's just it's not cool harry potter was amazing the story was amazing and
00:55:58.660 there i swear they're christian were you one of those people were like harry potter's evil because
00:56:02.580 there are witches in it no no no listen i grew up an atheist my entire life okay just checking
00:56:08.420 if i would have thought harry potter had gotten it uh then i probably would have disliked it even
00:56:14.140 more at the time when it was coming out so oh okay then let's do this and we can like close
00:56:19.160 off with this. How did you switch from atheism to being a Christian? What happened?
00:56:25.580 It was during COVID. And I actually, I, you know, when you're in the conservative space,
00:56:30.140 there's so many people who are Christian, many of them fake Christians, just going to be honest
00:56:34.880 with you, at least in the leadership positions. And so I was someone who kind of considered
00:56:40.680 myself a fake Christian a little bit. And, you know, I was saying that I was kind of religious,
00:56:45.240 but wasn't really doing anything. And so when COVID hit, I was home alone. I decided to
00:56:48.920 order the Quran and then order the Bible to read both. And so I ended up reading the Bible and I
00:56:54.520 read the four gospels. And it's really like with anything that when you get any sort of type of
00:56:57.820 information presented to you, and you either have to make a choice, you either ignore the
00:57:02.580 information, you accept it as truth, or you think that it's false. And so what I did after I read it,
00:57:08.380 I said, okay, I think that this is true and I'm going to change my life because of it.
00:57:13.180 and I decided to, to get baptized. That was about a year ago, a year ago, or a year and a couple
00:57:19.420 months ago, I got baptized in Hermosa beach, California by pastor Jack Hibbs. And it was a,
00:57:24.340 one of the greatest decisions I ever made was to do that. You know, your life gets harder doing
00:57:28.800 that, but it's, it's well worth it. So what changed? Well, it's, you know, I think a lot
00:57:36.000 of people still expect that Christianity is supposed to make your life better in some ways,
00:57:40.760 The life that you're living now while you're here on this earth in your physical body that
00:57:44.480 is supposed to make your life better because now you believe in God and he's going to come
00:57:48.420 and he's going to answer your prayers and he's going to make it better.
00:57:50.620 But in a lot of ways, your life gets harder because now essentially you're living by certain
00:57:56.180 tenets from the Bible, from scripture that are different than the way you were living
00:58:01.980 before and to live up to those standards is actually more difficult.
00:58:05.860 And so your life doesn't actually get easier.
00:58:07.400 And, you know, being someone who believes in something strongly that other people actually don't really believe in and being kind of in some ways against the world, the world hates you for what you believe in.
00:58:17.000 It makes your life harder, you know, especially if you're a strong Christian like I am and or my fiance is or any of the other strong religious people who really get down to it.
00:58:26.760 People will hate you for what you believe and they will hate you for the values.
00:58:29.580 I mean, they are hating people who are pro-life right now that you'll see.
00:58:32.480 I mean, going and protesting out of justices' houses and screaming at them,
00:58:37.440 intimidating judges, breaking federal code.
00:58:40.020 I mean, that's what happens when you stand up for life
00:58:42.000 and when you stand up for things that are biblically sound.
00:58:45.140 So, it gets tougher.
00:58:46.880 But the payoff, I believe, is much better.
00:58:52.440 I would say you're saved.
00:58:54.540 Seems like a pretty good payoff.
00:58:56.560 Yeah, exactly.
00:58:57.260 That's, that's, that's, there's nothing better than that. You know, if Jesus, if Jesus died
00:59:01.880 for your sins on the cross and you read the four gospels and you believe that,
00:59:06.920 then you really have no other choice, but to give your life to him. And so that's what I did.
00:59:12.700 Wow. So that was over COVID. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:16.740 Do you think there's a resurgence in Christianity? And do you think
00:59:19.440 part of that is because of, you know, the chaos that we're seeing out there?
00:59:24.000 Oh, definitely. A hundred percent. All young people that you talk to nowadays are incredibly
00:59:30.420 nihilist. Most of them think that there is no purpose in life. Everything is meaningless
00:59:35.020 and they don't really want to do anything. They have no passion or drive. They move to some urban
00:59:39.480 city and again, become an Uber driver, a girl on OnlyFans, or they work for some big mega
00:59:44.340 corporation that's owned by a bigger mega corporation and there's no passion there.
00:59:49.860 And so everyone feels pretty down about their lives. And so they need some sort of meaning in their lives. And so really they choose either leftism and Marxism and the communism and all these social justice stuff. They choose that or they choose Christianity. And this is why I think Christianity is actually very tied to conservatism. But they choose Christianity because it gives their life meaning. Just like that is a religion. The leftism is also a religion in exactly the same way.
01:00:15.340 People are naturally religious. They have been for thousands and thousands of years.
01:00:21.100 You used to have weather gods, and then the Greek gods, all these sorts of things, and
01:00:24.560 then you get Christianity and Islam and all of that. People are naturally religious, so
01:00:29.300 they will be inclined to go towards something. And right now, the biggest religion is leftism.
01:00:34.480 But many people are seeing a resurgence in Christianity because of that. And then also
01:00:39.900 many of the churches in America, at least, that have been these evangelical churches
01:00:44.000 that have preached this feel-good Christianity, life is not supposed to be hard, come in and
01:00:49.440 get your free coffee, that type of Christianity, are failing because people want the real give-it-to-me
01:00:55.040 straight type of Christianity or Catholicism. And so I think there's a resurgence and actually
01:01:00.380 a strong Christian faith in this country. I hope it's enough.
01:01:06.780 Yeah, well, we'll see. I have no idea. Things are pretty crazy. Are you a Protestant or
01:01:12.960 practicing Catholicism? No, not practicing Catholicism. So pretty much just non-denominational.
01:01:18.420 Non-denominational. Okay. Yeah. So I guess you could say Protestant. Yeah. Cool. Okay. Well,
01:01:24.580 do you have anything else you want to talk about? Um, I don't think so. I still want to get you and
01:01:32.100 you and your dad on, on PragerU for documentary about masculinity. That's still doable. Yeah.
01:01:39.920 We'll set that up. We'll talk. Yeah. We should do it. We should do it. Um, if, if anyone wants
01:01:47.000 to find you, where should they go? If they don't follow you already, you can go anywhere on social
01:01:52.460 media at the will wit and you can order my book, how to win friends and influence enemies on
01:01:56.580 Amazon, Barnes and Noble, anywhere really books are sold. Okay. Thank you very much for coming
01:02:02.520 on. I'll have you and your fiance on or potentially wife on when I have a studio in Miami.
01:02:09.920 Let's hope life, we can cross our fingers.
01:02:13.680 Yeah, yeah, definitely.