00:21:32.500Well, anyway, I was, um, I was in pretty rough shape in university and I was drinking a lot
00:21:37.500and I was lying in bed one day and I was like, this is the level of hangover no human should
00:21:41.740experience. And it's 20 like 11, 2012, someone must've come up with a hangover pill. So I said,
00:21:47.980so I started doing some research and I found dihadromyricetin and I found studies they'd
00:21:51.720done on rats. And so they take these poor rats and they pump them full of alcohol and then they
00:21:57.060do maze tests. So they'll do maze tests with sober rats and they'll do this one test where they
00:22:02.200flip the rat on its back and wait to see how long it takes to right itself. So that's another test
00:22:08.500they'll do the maze test and then they'll do a drowning test. So how long does a rat swim before
00:22:13.180it just gives up swimming? And they have their one group, which is just normal rats. And then
00:22:18.760they have their really drunk rats. And then they have the rats that are drunk, but they've also
00:22:23.200given dihydromyricetin. And the difference between the rats that were just drunk and had dihydromyricetin
00:22:28.660were massive and you can just read it in the study is they had less anxiety going through the
00:22:32.980maze. So they go through the maze quicker. They write themselves faster and they take longer to
00:22:36.420drown. And I was like, that's pretty interesting. So I started finding the compound online and I
00:22:41.800started taking it when I was like 20 and it made a massive difference to my hangovers. Cause I used
00:22:47.880to get, we're just brutally awful hangovers. Cause I used to drink too much anyway. Um,
00:22:53.220there's more research on it that it works weekly on GABA and you get a GABA crash after you
00:22:58.640drink. So you can get like anxiety with the, yeah. Yeah. There you go. Um, and so it works
00:23:06.740weekly on GABA, which means it's not scary, like a benzodiazepine. It doesn't saturate the receptors,
00:23:12.620but it works weekly enough. That'll reduce the anxiety, but it also increases how fast you
00:23:18.740metabolize alcohol and how easily you break it down. It's Matt. It's this magical herb. Um,
00:23:26.540And so I'm coming out with that. But I actually do believe that the gout thing would benefit a lot from reducing dairy. And I don't think vodka is the problem. There's like nothing in vodka. Yeah, no grain left. Like it's it's just it's like ethanol. Yeah. You see, I almost feel like the hangover is God's punishment for people doing stupid things. I almost feel like we shouldn't make a hangover pill to make people have to pay for their mistakes.
00:23:52.560see i i like partly agree with you but then you try the hangover pill and you're like well god
00:23:58.820probably also made this pill for the people who do the research yeah right yeah there's a way i
00:24:05.780think you're right yourself yeah yeah no i would definitely do the hangover pill if you if you
00:24:09.880developed it i think that would be a lifesaver it is it is i'll send it to you when it's out
00:24:14.560okay especially the older you get it gets worse oh yeah i didn't have like i had miserable
00:24:21.180hangovers forever, but I didn't have the anxiety. And now it's like brain fog too. And it's not like
00:24:27.960it's a hangover cure, but it reduces it, I think by about 80%. So if you do go out to a party or
00:24:33.900something, you're not screwed up for like, you know, two days minimum. Right. Yeah. No, I'll
00:24:41.100definitely try it. That'll be a life, a life changer for me because the hangovers ruin like
00:24:45.900an entire day, entire next day is gone because of it. And then you can't work. Yeah, exactly.
00:24:51.520Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's not, not doable. Uh, okay. So you went on a book tour, right?
00:24:58.760Recently. Yeah. All over. How did you manage that in COVID?
00:25:04.480Well, so the way that we did it is that we worked with turning point USA, first of all,
00:25:08.840and so turning point USA kind of sponsored the tour. And so they reached out to a lot of student
00:25:12.880groups across America and said, Hey, if any of you guys want to bring Will out for an event,
00:25:17.500you can fill out this form and then we're going to kind of put them all together for a book tour.
00:25:20.620And so I was able to do most of them on campus. So I did, I did one month or a month and a week
00:25:26.180of book touring. And so that was the longest I've ever been on the road. I mean, it was,
00:25:30.100it was a really tough time. I'm going to be honest with you. I mean, I'm sure, you know,
00:25:33.200you and your dad and everything know about the touring and what it's like. I mean, it's,
00:25:37.480it can be just, there's nothing more exhausting than doing that. You know, when you got to wake
00:25:41.900up and travel and then do it all again. And you're doing interviews the whole time, selling the book.
00:25:46.100It's quite difficult. And so I did a lot of them on campus. And then I did a few private events
00:25:50.440of people who I knew who wanted to sponsor me, some in Tampa, Utah, Texas, things like that.
00:25:55.160And then on the weekends I was doing churches. So there really wasn't, yeah. So there really
00:26:00.740wasn't a dull moment. It was pretty, it was every single day for a month and a week, a new city and
00:26:05.560event. Yeah. Kind of makes you sick of traveling, huh? Yeah. No, I didn't travel for a month after
00:26:12.740that. I stayed home. I was like, this is, this is, I'm so exhausted. And it wasn't even just
00:26:17.760exhaustion. I mean, truly going on that book tour. And I think there's a degree of, of PTSD
00:26:23.200that comes from something like that. I don't want to try and self-diagnose myself or anything like
00:26:27.460that, but, but when you're at events and you're getting hundreds and hundreds of people coming
00:26:31.820up to you and loving everything you're doing, or, you know, you're getting all those dopamine hits
00:26:36.360and you're doing these huge events and then you go home and there's not that anymore. It's a
00:26:40.600really strange feeling. I'm sure you guys can relate. It's, it's a, it's a strange thing to
00:26:46.280have to deal with. Yeah, that's interesting. I think I like, um, first of all, I haven't done
00:26:53.920a tour like that. And so I did a bunch of the shows I opened for a bunch of my dad's shows.
00:26:58.280and so i think it's a bit different because people were there to see him so i didn't have
00:27:03.540and then i also knew how exhausted i was even just doing that because of the traveling and then with
00:27:09.860this ridiculous diet i'm on adding that into the mix like not fun i have avoided uh it's too late
00:27:16.780i've already said it like i avoided a lot of the interactions because i knew that's a huge amount
00:27:22.140of the draining part right it's just it's exhausting talking to a lot of people especially
00:27:27.000because people have like really intense stories. I mean, I'm sure you saw this come at you and
00:27:31.560they tell you this incredible, intense story. And it's like, it's emotionally, it's hard
00:27:36.140emotionally. And so I think it, and so even though I avoided that part, I was exhausted.
00:27:41.760Dad, dad was super exhausted, but he's got like an endless supply of energy somehow.
00:27:48.520Yeah. Yeah. I can imagine. I mean, it's really difficult and it's great. You get to meet so
00:27:52.680many people. I mean, I met thousands and thousands of people going on this tour and they're just
00:27:57.940the best people. I mean, to come out and come to an event like that and come buy books and do the
00:28:03.160signing and all that, these are amazing people. It's so great to meet all them. The fact that I
00:28:08.100have any fans at all, it just blows me away every single day. And so it's great to go and do those
00:28:14.820things, but it is draining. There's nothing more exhausting until you tour. Yeah. It's wild too,
00:28:20.920cause I hadn't, you don't think about it, right? You don't think about it until you're kind of
00:28:24.300on it. Um, and I was always shocked. I remember I bought tickets to see somebody and they got sick
00:28:30.600and I was like, Oh, how could they get sick? It's like, I don't know. They're just like a
00:28:33.660person touring. They're very likely to get, to get sick. But, um, I've met a couple of musicians
00:28:38.980who toured, who toured for like years and they didn't have a home. Like their life was touring
00:28:45.920and they didn't have a home and by the time they were 30 they were just like screwed like one
00:28:51.820person i talked to they were like i almost died like it almost killed me i was living on a bus
00:28:56.640and i was in an airplane and i was had a show every night and like and now he's like done
00:29:03.920i guess it's rough yeah i think i think it adds yeah i i really think it adds a level of
00:29:11.620almost depression. And when it's, when it's over, because it's just so much, you're doing so much
00:29:17.140and then it's done. You're not there. And it's like, wow, what am I supposed to do now? I don't
00:29:21.420have all these people. I'm not giving a speech. I'm not selling my books. It, it, it bums you out
00:29:25.920for sure. There's a level to that. I think my dad had that. And I was always like, you have a lot
00:29:32.240to, cause I'm like, I manage his brand. It was just, that's a simple way of putting it. And so
00:29:38.540when he, whenever he stopped touring, he's like, I don't know what to do. I was like, no, we can
00:29:41.900feel like you have lots to do. We don't want to overdo it. Like you have a podcast. You could
00:29:45.780record every day if you wanted to, you have books you're writing. Like there's more than that. Like,
00:29:51.260but you, you know, you don't want to cram your schedule to death, but I mean, maybe it was just
00:29:56.180the entire social aspect and then having that cut. That is. Yeah. I think so. I think that I think
00:30:03.320there's something weird that goes on your brain. I can't tell it. I can't not a neurologist or
00:30:07.980anything to say exactly what happens, but I know that there is something difficult about seeing so
00:30:12.240many people and having so many people be fans of what you're doing to then go to not having that
00:30:18.140and to just be at home in your apartment with your dog watching YouTube and, and being like, wow,
00:30:24.640what the hell is going on now? What am I supposed to do now? It's a strange feeling.
00:30:29.360That's interesting. Yeah. I suppose there are no studies done on that.
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00:31:56.060uh, Elon Musk buying Twitter. How do you feel about that? Oh, we could get really into this
00:32:02.060one. I mean, you responded to my Instagram story the other day. That was about Dr. Oz,
00:32:05.680which we could get into as well, but this, this is, uh, I was talking about Dr. Oz.
00:32:10.100I know you like Dr. Oz. I don't agree with that. I think Dr. Oz is, is, is bad for America.
00:32:16.240Uh, in terms of the Elon Musk stuff, Elon Musk, I'm not much of a fan of,
00:32:22.420i think that conservatives how are you just not being are you like that kid at school that didn't
00:32:29.700like harry potter because they're like yeah i don't like harry potter like yeah you do
00:32:33.400everyone likes harry potter well i also didn't like harry potter ah no harry potter no harry
00:32:39.740potter is for women and children lord of the rings is for men i watched lord of the rings
00:32:45.040and read lord of the rings that was my thing but you know thrones not as much as lord of the rings
00:32:50.760but I did, I read all the books and watched the show and then they ruined the show. I mean,
00:32:54.300just terrible. Game of Thrones was great. Yeah. The books were so much better. You know what
00:32:58.240pissed me off about Game of Thrones and then we'll get back to Elon. Okay. I'm just going to say this,
00:33:02.240this isn't, this isn't nice, but Sansa should have been hotter in the show. Like they make
00:33:08.300this huge thing about how perfect she is in the show. That made me mad. I agree. She wasn't the
00:33:15.880most attractive person didn't she date harry styles the lady or who did she who did she date
00:33:21.720the actress i forget anyway one of the brothers there was like a band a couple of brothers wow
00:33:28.640yeah no i'm not that up yeah i don't know whatever anyway yeah she wasn't the best looking i mean
00:33:33.760denarius was obviously the best denarius was yeah and then rob stark's wife before he got stabbed
00:33:38.900she was she was beautiful as well yeah she should have had her be sansa except i guess she wouldn't
00:33:44.120fit with the description. Yeah. But they did wait for everyone else. I don't know. Yeah. Anyway,
00:33:50.740anyway, no, it was a very important conversation from a show that ended like four years ago.
00:33:57.260It's still really good. Are you, I want to rewatch it. I would love to do that. Yeah. I rewatch the
00:34:02.540Lord of the Rings about every three months. So I should get on game of Thrones as well and do it.
00:34:06.820Wow. Every three months, Jordan made me my fiance. He made me watch Lord of the Rings.
00:34:14.120like the first week we, we met, I think it was a test. It was like, will she do it? Like all the
00:34:19.000movies, which I did. It was like, this is like, honestly, yeah. Yeah. Great. Extended edition.
00:34:24.860You have a good fiance then. Yeah. It was, it's a good, it's a good show, but there's definitely
00:34:30.820like, I definitely think it appeals more to men and I have a pretty masculine personality. And I
00:34:34.940was still like, some of these scenes, like they go on, they just go on. And there's a lot of
00:34:40.440emotion there too. There was like, why are you, why is there so much emotion in the scene and
00:34:44.700who is it appealing to? Like not, there's not a motherly instinct, I don't think. So it must be
00:34:49.460appealing to emotions in men, which is weird. Right. It's like when Sam is going, I can't
00:34:55.520carry it for you, but I can carry you. And he puts Frodo on his back and he takes him up to
00:34:59.500Mount Doom. I mean, that's like, that's, you're thinking of your best friend, your brother. I
00:35:03.020mean, it's, it's, it's truly powerful stuff. It's really the most incredible man. Anyway. Okay. We
00:35:08.840You don't have to get into this whole Lord of the Rings.
00:49:51.180And so when you have real conservatism, or at least an ideology that prioritizes families and that sort of sense, then you actually have people pushing back. That's why people like DeSantis now. That's why a lot of real conservatives like DeSantis. That's why people like the country of Hungary. Because they're not like this just, oh, free market, like live and let live type of deal. They say, no, we are going to do things that are going to actually benefit our people. We're going to be on the aggressive. We're going to attack instead of just the live and let live.
00:50:21.160And I don't mean to attack you or anything for being a Libertarian, it's just my thoughts
00:50:26.160about Libertarianism. That ideology has made it so that now we have these trans...
00:50:31.380I'll say, we just looked at a thing today from the Washington Post. In 2017, they were
00:50:35.220talking about Confederate statues being bad, but the Founding Father is good. And you go
00:50:38.880through all the different timelines, and now in 2022, they're coming out and saying,
00:50:42.980let's change the name of George Washington University. And it's like, that's how their
00:50:46.860ideology works. There's Washington Post saying, let's change George Washington University.
00:50:50.960But that's how their ideology works, because it has to make people believe that there is
00:50:54.760a revolution that has to be taken over for anything to be changed, whereas people who
00:50:59.820say, no, let's just make it as free as possible, individualism, will always get ran over by
00:51:06.240the people who say, we need a revolution.
00:51:09.660I can get behind part of that, and I agree with part of that.
00:51:12.660At this point, part of the reason I built a podcast and I have certain guests on is
00:51:18.180because I'm trying to push back against it.
00:51:19.880I completely agree. It's gone too far. I probably start, well, I was pretty disagreeable. Like I was arguing about feminism, you know, in grade nine before it was cool. Um, but so I'm probably, I think the part of conservatism, conservatism that, that I didn't, that didn't appeal to me was there were elements of it that I just wasn't interested in.
00:51:45.540like, uh, let's say back in 2013 when conservatism was more conservative than it is now,
00:51:50.140cause it's moved over. Um, it was, I was always, you know, pro make, make drugs legal type of
00:51:56.340thing, which I think a normal conservative would say, no, there needs to be like ban those,
00:52:01.940but guns are okay. And I was like, well, guns are also okay, but like drugs are okay. And I
00:52:07.180think I was just, I'm just okay with more things, but the fight element, I definitely agree with
00:52:13.580you. Like what I, I mean, I, I left Canada. I talked about how the way COVID was handled was
00:52:20.680ridiculous. I started talking about that. I think in June, the first time, right before I got COVID0.75
00:52:25.580the first time, like right away, I was like, if you can't shut things down though, you can't do
00:52:29.800that. Like that's not going to go well. Um, but I see where you're coming from. Yeah. And so I,
00:52:37.240I like, I don't know where I stand at the moment. Yeah. I mean, just an example of like,
00:52:42.000imagine someone says, okay, you have to go fight someone to the death, but you can only use knives.
00:52:47.320And so both of you walk into the room, you have a knife, and then the person who you're fighting
00:52:51.320brought a gun and you say, Hey ref, that's unfair. This person brought a gun. And you're yelling
00:52:56.420about how unfair it is at the same time they shoot you and they, and they win the fight.
00:52:59.640So we can yell about how like unfair things are and say, you know, we just want to be left alone
00:53:04.080and follow the rules and be like this. But these people again and again, we'll take advantage and
00:53:08.400They don't live by the same rules that you and I live by. That's why we have to be on
00:53:13.060the aggressive. Talking about the drugs and the guns and things, when you allow behavior
00:53:22.740that is bad for people in a society, and people are probably going to think I sound fairly
00:53:29.200authoritarian, but when you allow degeneracy in some societies and you allow them to run
00:53:34.140rampant, as they kind of have in America and the West in many ways, then you will have a society
00:53:40.540that even if they're left alone in their own homes, it bleeds out into the rest of the world.
00:53:44.700And so that's really what we've got in the West today, is that you let people do all these things
00:53:49.280and say it's all okay, and then it bleeds out everywhere else. And now again, you have this
00:53:53.520stuff with the kids and it's really disgusting. What are your plans for the next year? Do you
00:53:58.120have anything up and coming? Are you just working on your online platform? Are you writing anything?
00:54:05.440Working on my next book actually is my biggest goal.
00:54:08.740And that's been a challenge because this next book is, it's not even like a conservative
00:54:15.300book, the way that I'm trying to frame it.
00:54:18.100It's a very like us versus them type of book, elites versus us.
00:54:22.760And so it's been hard to, to, to find people who want to support that type of message.
00:54:27.980I will say, even after how well my last book did.
00:54:30.640And so that's been difficult, but really hammering in on that and trying to get, trying to get signed
00:54:35.500there is really what I'm looking at for this year. And I think that it's, I say this first,
00:54:40.560because I think that this book, especially for the audience I have, which is many people who
00:54:45.240are younger, who probably haven't heard a lot of this stuff before is going to be a really
00:54:49.220changing book for this country. Wow. How old is your, is your audience on average?
00:54:57.380Yeah. I think I have about 50% of my audience that's under 34. And so the rest is older than
00:55:03.960that. So yeah. So it's a pretty good amount of people who are actually pretty young. And when
00:55:07.240you look at conservative politics in general, you know, it's definitely not that young. So
00:55:12.200for me to have an audience of that age is, is, is pretty cool actually. Yeah. You know,
00:55:17.880and I hate that just like, Oh, you're making things for young people. Like that's what you're
00:55:21.280doing. You know, I, I don't really like that. I'm just glad that young people are actually coming
00:55:25.400around to understand some of the things that we're talking about yeah yeah that's cool okay
00:55:33.360i didn't ask anything on my giant list list of questions i know i mean you guys sent us the
00:55:40.760topics and i didn't get any of the oh yeah sorry i was just like who's your fiance and why don't
00:55:47.800you like dr oz and what's wrong with elon musk and i still can't believe you didn't like harry
00:55:52.900potter though that's just it's not cool harry potter was amazing the story was amazing and
00:55:58.660there i swear they're christian were you one of those people were like harry potter's evil because
00:56:02.580there are witches in it no no no listen i grew up an atheist my entire life okay just checking
00:56:08.420if i would have thought harry potter had gotten it uh then i probably would have disliked it even
00:56:14.140more at the time when it was coming out so oh okay then let's do this and we can like close
00:56:19.160off with this. How did you switch from atheism to being a Christian? What happened?
00:56:25.580It was during COVID. And I actually, I, you know, when you're in the conservative space,
00:56:30.140there's so many people who are Christian, many of them fake Christians, just going to be honest
00:56:34.880with you, at least in the leadership positions. And so I was someone who kind of considered
00:56:40.680myself a fake Christian a little bit. And, you know, I was saying that I was kind of religious,
00:56:45.240but wasn't really doing anything. And so when COVID hit, I was home alone. I decided to
00:56:48.920order the Quran and then order the Bible to read both. And so I ended up reading the Bible and I
00:56:54.520read the four gospels. And it's really like with anything that when you get any sort of type of
00:56:57.820information presented to you, and you either have to make a choice, you either ignore the
00:57:02.580information, you accept it as truth, or you think that it's false. And so what I did after I read it,
00:57:08.380I said, okay, I think that this is true and I'm going to change my life because of it.
00:57:13.180and I decided to, to get baptized. That was about a year ago, a year ago, or a year and a couple
00:57:19.420months ago, I got baptized in Hermosa beach, California by pastor Jack Hibbs. And it was a,
00:57:24.340one of the greatest decisions I ever made was to do that. You know, your life gets harder doing
00:57:28.800that, but it's, it's well worth it. So what changed? Well, it's, you know, I think a lot
00:57:36.000of people still expect that Christianity is supposed to make your life better in some ways,
00:57:40.760The life that you're living now while you're here on this earth in your physical body that
00:57:44.480is supposed to make your life better because now you believe in God and he's going to come
00:57:48.420and he's going to answer your prayers and he's going to make it better.
00:57:50.620But in a lot of ways, your life gets harder because now essentially you're living by certain
00:57:56.180tenets from the Bible, from scripture that are different than the way you were living
00:58:01.980before and to live up to those standards is actually more difficult.
00:58:05.860And so your life doesn't actually get easier.
00:58:07.400And, you know, being someone who believes in something strongly that other people actually don't really believe in and being kind of in some ways against the world, the world hates you for what you believe in.
00:58:17.000It makes your life harder, you know, especially if you're a strong Christian like I am and or my fiance is or any of the other strong religious people who really get down to it.
00:58:26.760People will hate you for what you believe and they will hate you for the values.
00:58:29.580I mean, they are hating people who are pro-life right now that you'll see.
00:58:32.480I mean, going and protesting out of justices' houses and screaming at them,
00:58:37.440intimidating judges, breaking federal code.
00:58:40.020I mean, that's what happens when you stand up for life
00:58:42.000and when you stand up for things that are biblically sound.
00:58:57.260That's, that's, that's, there's nothing better than that. You know, if Jesus, if Jesus died
00:59:01.880for your sins on the cross and you read the four gospels and you believe that,
00:59:06.920then you really have no other choice, but to give your life to him. And so that's what I did.
00:59:12.700Wow. So that was over COVID. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:16.740Do you think there's a resurgence in Christianity? And do you think
00:59:19.440part of that is because of, you know, the chaos that we're seeing out there?
00:59:24.000Oh, definitely. A hundred percent. All young people that you talk to nowadays are incredibly
00:59:30.420nihilist. Most of them think that there is no purpose in life. Everything is meaningless
00:59:35.020and they don't really want to do anything. They have no passion or drive. They move to some urban
00:59:39.480city and again, become an Uber driver, a girl on OnlyFans, or they work for some big mega
00:59:44.340corporation that's owned by a bigger mega corporation and there's no passion there.
00:59:49.860And so everyone feels pretty down about their lives. And so they need some sort of meaning in their lives. And so really they choose either leftism and Marxism and the communism and all these social justice stuff. They choose that or they choose Christianity. And this is why I think Christianity is actually very tied to conservatism. But they choose Christianity because it gives their life meaning. Just like that is a religion. The leftism is also a religion in exactly the same way.
01:00:15.340People are naturally religious. They have been for thousands and thousands of years.
01:00:21.100You used to have weather gods, and then the Greek gods, all these sorts of things, and
01:00:24.560then you get Christianity and Islam and all of that. People are naturally religious, so
01:00:29.300they will be inclined to go towards something. And right now, the biggest religion is leftism.
01:00:34.480But many people are seeing a resurgence in Christianity because of that. And then also
01:00:39.900many of the churches in America, at least, that have been these evangelical churches
01:00:44.000that have preached this feel-good Christianity, life is not supposed to be hard, come in and
01:00:49.440get your free coffee, that type of Christianity, are failing because people want the real give-it-to-me
01:00:55.040straight type of Christianity or Catholicism. And so I think there's a resurgence and actually
01:01:00.380a strong Christian faith in this country. I hope it's enough.
01:01:06.780Yeah, well, we'll see. I have no idea. Things are pretty crazy. Are you a Protestant or
01:01:12.960practicing Catholicism? No, not practicing Catholicism. So pretty much just non-denominational.
01:01:18.420Non-denominational. Okay. Yeah. So I guess you could say Protestant. Yeah. Cool. Okay. Well,
01:01:24.580do you have anything else you want to talk about? Um, I don't think so. I still want to get you and
01:01:32.100you and your dad on, on PragerU for documentary about masculinity. That's still doable. Yeah.
01:01:39.920We'll set that up. We'll talk. Yeah. We should do it. We should do it. Um, if, if anyone wants
01:01:47.000to find you, where should they go? If they don't follow you already, you can go anywhere on social
01:01:52.460media at the will wit and you can order my book, how to win friends and influence enemies on
01:01:56.580Amazon, Barnes and Noble, anywhere really books are sold. Okay. Thank you very much for coming
01:02:02.520on. I'll have you and your fiance on or potentially wife on when I have a studio in Miami.
01:02:09.920Let's hope life, we can cross our fingers.