The Mikhaila Peterson Podcast - June 22, 2026


Britain's Hidden War： 250,000 Girls, the UK is being taken ｜ Sammy Woodhouse EP 238


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00:00:00.080 For my 15th birthday, he took me on an armed robbery
00:00:04.560 to the post office as my birthday gift.
00:00:07.520 Oh my gosh. 0.99
00:00:08.640 Yeah, I was beaten, raped, multiple times he tried to kill me. 0.99
00:00:14.720 You're on a news source and they told you 0.87
00:00:17.120 not to mention who the perpetrators were.
00:00:19.600 He told me not to mention the race of the perpetrators,
00:00:23.680 and I asked why.
00:00:24.840 This has affected approximately, on the low end, 250,000 girls.
00:00:31.380 They were groomed, abused, raped, tortured, trafficked, criminalised, impregnated, blamed, murdered.
00:00:38.040 What this looks like to me is a one-sided war that Britain hasn't even realised is occurring.
00:00:44.580 That's exactly what it is. We're at war.
00:00:47.200 Sammy Woodhouse, welcome to my podcast.
00:00:50.580 Hi, thank you for the invite.
00:00:52.120 Well, I wish we were discussing something that wasn't so horrifying, but this is what's going
00:00:59.100 on in the UK and what has been going on is absolutely horrific. So I wanted to have you on
00:01:05.940 because you led the rape gang inquiry report. Is that right? That's right. Yes. So I think we
00:01:15.160 should start off just by you giving a brief background about who you are and what happened
00:01:20.860 you? Let's start there. I was 14 years old when I met Arshad Asim. When I met him, he was 24 years
00:01:33.040 old. He was a Pakistani Muslim man, and he was known to authorities such as the councils, which
00:01:39.620 is social care, and South Yorkshire police for being a very dangerous man. We now know he was 0.60
00:01:45.700 one of the most dangerous men in the United Kingdom but I was exploited by him for several
00:01:50.980 years I went missing for days weeks months at a time I was in hotels houses even he took me to
00:01:58.980 his home so I even met and lived with his family as well I was abused mentally sexually and
00:02:04.660 physically I was made pregnant twice first when I was 14 and then again when I was 15 when I was 14
00:02:12.500 I was forced to have a termination but I was allowed to keep my second child because the
00:02:18.860 police said that they wasn't going to prosecute him now of course my parents wasn't happy and
00:02:24.960 they reported this to the police the police came out and they said that I was making a lifestyle
00:02:30.800 choice now I didn't recognize what was happening to me was abuse you know I thought that this man
00:02:37.660 was my boyfriend. I wasn't the first he was abusing. I certainly weren't, you know, the last
00:02:43.840 day was all my friends was also, you know, dating older men. Of course, it took us a very long time
00:02:51.840 to recognise that, you know, we was actually being abused. But I was also coerced into committing
00:02:58.120 crimes as well. So, for example, for my 15th birthday, he took me on an armed robbery to the
00:03:05.600 post office as my birthday gift but I was beaten yeah I was beaten raped um multiple times he tried
00:03:15.560 to kill me so for example on one occasion he dragged me into the car he was driving very fast
00:03:22.720 through two cars and into a church there was another occasion when he said he was going to
00:03:29.560 drive off a hilltop because if he couldn't have me then no one could so he was speeding really
00:03:35.820 fast towards the edge of the hill he slammed on the brakes I got out of the car and I was
00:03:42.160 physically sick he took me to the edge and said he was going to throw me off and at that moment
00:03:47.160 I thought my life was going to end I was that scared I actually wet myself he placed me into 0.98
00:03:53.640 the back of the car and raped me and I just remember being laid there and I was crying 0.79
00:04:00.380 and I felt like a dead body on a slab in the morgue and I just started to change as a child 0.95
00:04:10.040 and I was no longer this happy bubbly confident child I was breaking down and the professionals
00:04:18.580 that was paid to protect wasn't protecting me. I saw police officers buying drugs from him,
00:04:24.720 passing on information. In my case, they even made a no-prosecution deal with him. So what that meant
00:04:31.300 was, on one occasion when I was abducted, they said to him, if you drop her off at a petrol
00:04:38.200 station, you won't be prosecuted. Now, that deal was actually how I exposed the Rodham child abuse 0.80
00:04:45.900 scandal which showed that there was 1400 children in my hometown so i'm not talking across the
00:04:51.520 country i'm just talking about my small hometown they was groomed abused raped tortured trafficked
00:04:58.080 criminalized impregnated blames murdered and um i named the labor politician involved jehangi
00:05:06.120 he's actually one of his relatives and a police officer called pc hassan ali in fact when he got
00:05:12.780 told he was going to be investigated just hours later he was killed so that is how the the scandal
00:05:19.840 kind of came to light and I originally went to the police now I'm going back um I was about 27
00:05:26.800 years old at this point so going back to 2012 2013 but I went to the police and I said I want you to
00:05:34.940 investigate this you know I want him to go to prison so they went away and come back and they
00:05:39.880 said we've only got one piece of evidence and that was a missing persons report and I said well I've
00:05:46.580 got DNA from my son you know that will prove that you know he abused me when I was a child and he
00:05:53.020 was an adult I said I can name the police officers involved and there was just this brick wall that
00:06:01.260 I was hitting all the time they refused to take my son's DNA they said the police officers weren't
00:06:05.760 going to come forward because they'd lose their jobs for me now what they didn't know is that I
00:06:10.920 was recording them on my mobile phone and thank god that I did so I went away and I started I
00:06:18.420 suppose my own investigation I got and collected all my own files police social care education
00:06:26.320 NHS and I contacted journalists called Andrew Norfolk at the Times newspaper and I gave him
00:06:33.980 all of my evidence so we're talking about thousands of pages and documents which is funny
00:06:40.200 because the police obviously said that you know there was only one piece of evidence so she lied
00:06:44.360 so I gave I gave Andrew all of my evidence and in August 2013 he published my story now I was
00:06:55.480 known as Jessica then I've not waived my anonymity yet but we named the politician him as a rapist
00:07:03.800 and PC Hassan Ali is the police officer involved and it commissioned the electricity report what
00:07:10.840 I've just been talking about what showed the 1400 children but it also opened the criminal
00:07:15.980 investigation so I was the first to go on record the National Crime Agency took that over it's
00:07:22.240 actually still now ongoing but it's now known as the biggest investigation in history in regards to
00:07:28.980 child abuse but my uh rapist went on to be sentenced to 35 years um he's still in prison now
00:07:38.220 so um i've been an activist ever since so that's 14 years ago and i've just tried everything in my
00:07:46.400 power to expose this so i've done lots of different government exposures in 2018 i exposed that the
00:07:53.660 family courts were allowing these rapists contact and custody to our children I fought that to change
00:08:01.040 a law which has been successful it doesn't protect all children so I am still fighting that but they
00:08:06.400 they have started to bring that in and I wanted to give children born of rape a voice you know for
00:08:11.140 people like my son because what I was seeing is that they had no rights you know they had they
00:08:16.780 had absolutely no support whatsoever but um so yeah I've been working to change policies laws
00:08:23.240 secure funding as I say absolutely anything I can to you know try and make a difference in the
00:08:29.920 country because what's been happening isn't something of the past it's something that is
00:08:34.220 happening right now and it's not just in my hometown it is all over the United Kingdom as
00:08:39.360 the report shows but through my activism I met a politician called MP Rupert Lowe now this was
00:08:45.860 probably about 16-18 months ago and I got to know Rupert and he phoned me up and he said okay what
00:08:53.220 do I need to know about what's been happening and he walked straight into parliament and he raised it
00:08:59.700 in the house of commons and I suppose all hell broke loose of the things that he was saying
00:09:04.660 but um he's been relentless in his fight ever since and that's why I've got so much respect
00:09:10.920 for him so he launched the inquiry because our government didn't want to do an inquiry
00:09:16.700 now you've probably heard of Elon Musk he's been very vocal about what's been happening in our
00:09:23.180 country and about our work on the inquiry and you know when people like Elon with such a huge
00:09:29.740 platform have put so much pressure on the government they care they're now doing it a
00:09:34.300 national inquiry but our inquiry has been funded by about 20,000 people we've secured about six
00:09:41.140 seven hundred thousand pound now we've only got a small team but we are trying to do what we can
00:09:46.000 we've now published our report back in February we had two weeks of hearings where we heard
00:09:51.120 testimony from survivors families whistleblowers the next stage is we are going to be naming people
00:09:58.660 in parliament and we are going to be doing private prosecutions now we've already started
00:10:04.060 criminal investigations from the inquiry we've also started legal action against services such
00:10:09.740 as the nhs and police and social care to ensure that survivors have got compensation you know to
00:10:16.020 try and cover some of the trauma what they've been through we're helping people move homes to
00:10:21.200 safety because some of these survivors are being housed in the exact same streets as their rapists
00:10:29.240 it's absolutely disgusting of what's going off in our country wow okay well
00:10:37.820 that's horrible i'm so sorry that you've experienced that i like i don't even have
00:10:47.360 words to explain how terrible it is what you guys found uh in the report was this is affected
00:10:55.240 approximately on the low end 250,000 girls women
00:11:01.420 that's insane i i read some reports uh of other mass rapes in war because what this looks like
00:11:12.480 to me is a one-sided war that britain hasn't even realized is occurring yeah i'm glad you said that
00:11:19.940 because that's exactly what it is where about war yeah this kind of secret war or people are
00:11:26.600 trying to hide from the reality of the situation, but just to give people some numbers, there was
00:11:32.480 the Bangladesh Liberation War, and the estimates are 200 to 400 Bengali women and girls were raped,
00:11:41.780 which is similar numbers to what we're seeing here, and then there was, people might be familiar
00:11:47.860 with the rape of Nanjing. That's like a famous event. That, which I heard about a lot, I think
00:11:55.980 from my dad as a kid, that was 20 to 80,000 women and girls. So the mass scale of this is, is
00:12:04.640 literally warlike. And I cannot believe that it's not all over the news. Epstein was all over the
00:12:12.380 news that was that was nothing compared to this and what sorry go ahead um you know we've we've
00:12:21.880 been able to show that this is going back from as early as the 1950s and there's no doubt in my mind
00:12:27.000 it'll be earlier than that but um people think that this is you know something that's just stopped
00:12:32.200 and i think of the past i can assure you it's not it's probably far worse now than what it's ever
00:12:36.520 been but what we also have to remember is that majority of these perpetrators were pakistani 0.65
00:12:40.720 Muslim men and everybody is absolutely terrified to to tackle that I think it's 87 percent
00:12:46.800 of people convicted through the courts have Muslim names um so I just I just saw you were on 0.69
00:12:56.200 um you're on a news source I can't remember what it is I'm very pregnant and I have almost no brain
00:13:01.120 but you're on a news source and they told you not to mention who the perpetrators were
00:13:06.700 which you didn't do but can you explain what happened there
00:13:09.700 yeah so this was recently this was I think it was yesterday there's a program called Good Morning
00:13:15.920 Britain it's a morning tv show very very known in the UK and I was about to do a live appearance on
00:13:24.220 there um talking about it was actually another case not about our report but I was briefed
00:13:29.880 beforehand and he told me not to mention the race of the perpetrators and I asked why
00:13:36.340 and he said oh it's for legal reasons and I said but it's been proven in courts of law and in
00:13:42.440 official reports and he said oh it's just Ofcom and I said right okay but whilst I was on that
00:13:48.640 interview you know I did mention the fact that majority of perpetrators are Pakistani Muslim 1.00
00:13:53.720 because that's that's you know that's just a fact that's proven and yeah I told them live on air 0.71
00:14:00.040 that I had been briefed not to mention the race and I told them how disgusted I was and how
00:14:05.520 disrespectful it was you know people like myself have been silenced for decades and to be told
00:14:13.220 that I can't mention his race or their race is just absolutely disgraceful well after what
00:14:21.620 happened to you and what's happening to yeah to be like oh don't offend them is insane this whole
00:14:28.000 thing is is crazy when I was actually a child and I've got the record for this I've got a lot of
00:14:34.300 parents and they had a child protection meeting about me so that's when all the services come
00:14:39.740 together you know to put a focus on on safe safeguarding me they actually fetched in a
00:14:45.940 professional to ensure that no one was being racist towards him so you know the the racial
00:14:54.560 element to it was always there um yeah it's just absolutely crazy
00:15:00.200 so you said the plan going forward well mainstream media isn't talking about this yet
00:15:08.160 although they should be all over it uh the plan going forward is to start naming names
00:15:14.240 which i think is completely appropriate so what does that look like when the reports of names
00:15:21.020 are mentioned but what we are now going to do we're going to put that evidence together
00:15:24.440 Rupert is going to go in and use parliamentary privilege to name some of those people involved
00:15:30.860 we are going to be careful you know because what we don't want to do is produce any criminal cases
00:15:36.740 I mean I've got very strong feelings on that because you know people say we can't name people
00:15:41.300 we can't put any information out in case it jeopardizes anything well in my case I named
00:15:47.540 them and it exposed the biggest child abuse scandal in our history it didn't affect anything
00:15:52.140 in court there was that he actually received a highest sentence in our history at that time for
00:15:56.920 child sexual exploitation cases so I think my my case proves that it can be done but I think we
00:16:03.500 have weak judges saying oh you know everything and anything can jeopardize it so yeah we are
00:16:09.420 going to be careful we are going to be working with a legal team obviously our survivors and
00:16:13.800 the participants are going to be at the forefront we will never do anything that they don't want to
00:16:18.420 do but if they are saying to us well we want the named and we want private prosecutions and that's
00:16:23.740 what we need to try and do oh I think people are thinking about you guys are doing things the right
00:16:30.720 way but people who are trying to be careful at this point it's gone so far past
00:16:37.360 I tweeted something out the other day that said you know how how far kind of does a society have
00:16:46.640 to fall before everybody is up in arms like before there's some sort of civil war and then started
00:16:53.720 looking into the stats and it was like oh probably from their perspective this is a conquering war
00:17:00.080 that seems to be what's happening do you have any idea how much of the court system and police
00:17:06.440 officers have been kind of overtaken by this already how do you mean i mean are there
00:17:14.480 people who are aware this is going on and allowing it to happen in the police system and in the court
00:17:21.480 system so that like how much of it how much of those systems are um I don't really know what
00:17:30.000 the right word is for but how much of those systems are have fallen I guess we have corruption
00:17:35.740 in all services and that's what our report proves you know it was the education it was social care
00:17:43.180 policing i mean our evidence shows that in um as early as 1999 they knew and this is the home
00:17:50.880 office now as well so it goes right to the very top they knew their entire operations they knew
00:17:57.280 the perpetrators were the victims where they met them the car registration place the hotels they
00:18:03.560 were taking the takeaways and restaurants they knew absolutely everything and then also let's
00:18:10.420 remember children were born from this they had dna and you know absolutely nothing you know is
00:18:17.000 being done there's not been one professional in our country that has been held to account now i
00:18:23.360 even met david cameron who was the then prime minister back in 2015 i've i've met with all the
00:18:29.820 ministers i met soella braverman when she was the home secretary no political party can tell me
00:18:36.440 that they didn't know about this you know you have our Labour government we now have a Labour
00:18:41.460 government but this was happening under Labour councils Labour politicians were involved so
00:18:46.980 they are massively held responsible for this how anyone can vote for Labour is just absolutely
00:18:52.200 beyond me but then you have the Conservatives that's been in power for well over a decade
00:18:56.420 and did very very little then we've got reform led by Nigel Farage that's saying you know he
00:19:04.000 originally said you were going to do an inquiry then said you weren't and then he said you know
00:19:07.880 he got some advice from maggie oliver not to do it now why on earth he's listened to that advice
00:19:12.960 is beyond me so what he's now saying is well if you vote for us when we get to the next general
00:19:18.420 general election we get elected we will then do something we don't have time to wait for three
00:19:25.240 years children have been raped trafficked and murdered and again that's why i respect rupert
00:19:30.140 also so much he just got up he did it and he has just been absolutely relentless and he's fine
00:19:36.580 the guy's a legend do you think are people not interested in looking into it i know it's to be
00:19:46.040 perceived as racist and i think we're way past that but is it also because they're worried about
00:19:52.500 losing votes yes so you know that's that's what what labor was doing they need the muslim vote
00:20:00.820 so of course you can't you know upset muslim or dare speak against islam and so a lot of people
00:20:08.200 was was told that you know you can't talk about it because it makes you racist and islamophobic
00:20:14.080 i mean i get called racist all the time do you know what's actually funny about it you know i
00:20:18.780 was the one that was targeted for my race i actually thought i was in love with him i didn't
00:20:22.780 even care about his race so you know no one calls him racist you know and all these perpetrators
00:20:28.260 you know they don't get called every name under the sun it's always us but yeah you know i've
00:20:32.880 been called that many names racist islamophobic i don't care i think we're past that point now in
00:20:38.440 in the uk i mean kia stormer he openly said that you know we was racist and for right thugs
00:20:44.940 it's they're absolutely despicable and we're just at the point now where we're not going to rely on
00:20:49.520 this state to do something about this you know we're funded by the public we're going to do it
00:20:53.940 ourselves well good for you guys it's definitely necessary it's so unfortunate that you had to go
00:21:00.380 through what you went through and have to lead the resistance against it that's insane it is i mean
00:21:08.440 i should you know after what i've been through yeah i should be living my life i shouldn't be
00:21:13.840 the one having to fight this and expose it this is what our paid professionals are for this is what
00:21:19.100 our politicians are for they're meant to be leading you know their constituents and you know
00:21:23.980 doing what's best and protecting people yeah agreed is there a type of person because you
00:21:33.080 said you were targeted because of your race so is there a type of person that's targeted in these
00:21:38.080 rapes well it's only one of the reasons i mean what it shows is that majority were white british
00:21:45.320 children but i always say that no child is off limits and other communities were targeted
00:21:50.940 so the report again speaks about the seek community so they was targeting seek children
00:21:56.620 now what happened with the seek community when when the children were targeted the men came out
00:22:02.300 to protect them and some of those men actually went to prison we didn't have that you know what
00:22:08.880 what I what message I want to say to our men is you know stand up you you know you've got to kind
00:22:15.340 of come out there and fight for the children and some did and they was arrested and and you know
00:22:20.740 if they tried to get children their children out the homes and stuff but I kind of just feel like
00:22:25.920 how many letters down a little bit yeah that i mean i think that's reasonable so i i had um sammy
00:22:36.100 on my podcast last year to talk about this not sammy sorry samantha smith yes i know because
00:22:43.700 there was this it kind of you know blew up on x and elon helped with that yes and looked horrifying
00:22:50.880 and then I did a podcast about it and then it felt like nothing changed in the government which was
00:22:58.040 really really unsettling but then Rupert Lowe came out and you guys have been doing this inquiry
00:23:04.320 thank goodness uh anyway it's it's it's awful is there anything else that you want to tell people
00:23:15.000 who are in the U.S. and because the majority of my audience is in the U.S. and Canada
00:23:20.260 but I feel like you see this happening in the UK but it's not just because there's something
00:23:26.820 necessarily special about the UK it's just you had a lot of immigrants from Pakistan move in 1.00
00:23:32.700 with a completely different culture in a really serious way so are there warnings you could give 1.00
00:23:40.100 to other societies because like I said I don't think I think it could happen elsewhere oh
00:23:47.880 absolutely the trafficking of children you know this happens all over the world but what i would
00:23:52.700 say and this won't solve all your problems but it will certainly help is um you know don't allow 0.99
00:23:59.220 immigrants into the borders and um don't allow islam in either because you know islam has played
00:24:05.460 a huge role in this you know the perpetrators were reading scriptures from the quran whilst 0.92
00:24:11.120 raping you know the children i mean i could i could sit here and and talk all night about this
00:24:16.300 So what I would say to people is go get our report.
00:24:20.340 It's available online.
00:24:22.040 Read the report, educate yourselves, research it,
00:24:26.440 and, you know, share as much information as you possibly can.
00:24:31.440 That sounds good.
00:24:32.420 And I'll link the report in the description
00:24:34.560 so it'll be on YouTube and Spotify for everybody
00:24:36.720 because it's free to read.
00:24:37.560 It is, it's a horror, it's horrifying.
00:24:41.840 It's very uncomfortable, but people should be aware 1.00
00:24:44.900 that this is what happens when you import and i think islam is a big like a big part of the 1.00
00:24:51.360 problem like you said they're reading scripture they think it's what did i read they think that
00:24:58.380 it's like ordained almost it's definitely not frowned upon what percentage of the community
00:25:05.300 do you think is aware of this the pakistani community there was aware and i think with in
00:25:11.360 fact I was saying this earlier with for example the Muslim community or the Sikh community or
00:25:16.640 Jewish I think they tend to deal with things themselves in house as we as a white community
00:25:22.100 we I think are a little bit more vocal and go to to try and work with services and so I think you
00:25:29.500 know we we as the white community need to start and do you know a little bit more ourselves and
00:25:34.080 start being so reliant on this state but the the Muslim community knew in fact the imams were
00:25:40.400 actually involved because they weren't just you know raping and tossing the children they was used 0.83
00:25:45.420 as slaves they was even getting married by the imams they was actually trafficked outside of the 0.98
00:25:50.520 uk as well so yeah they they knew i mean i personally think islam is a very violent and 0.99
00:25:57.640 sexist religion i think if anyone doesn't think that they're not thinking yeah like they're like 0.98
00:26:05.500 no oh no it's full of women's freedom like have you seen it have you have you looked at
00:26:13.240 people who are muslim i actually lived as a muslim woman when i was in a domestic violence
00:26:19.680 relationship and it was just barbaric how anyone can say you know that women you know have rights
00:26:28.440 and live a great you know kind of i don't know what the right word is but yeah it's it's just
00:26:34.760 barbaric yeah and i think some places because people use will use dubai as an example and i've 0.94
00:26:40.980 spent time in dubai i do like dubai but i don't think that's representative of what islam is like
00:26:47.700 like the nice areas in dubai it's just it's not representative of of what the religion is like 0.85
00:26:54.080 honestly at its core and you can read that in the texts yeah i mean i i know muslims that they don't 0.99
00:27:01.480 really kind of live by the crap i mean they call themselves muslim but they don't you know they 0.90
00:27:05.880 are kind of living more of a western way of life yeah um yeah yeah and lovely people too it's not 0.99
00:27:15.140 everybody but to import that into a western society it doesn't seem to go very well yeah
00:27:22.060 and the thing is you know when when we say that majority of the people committing you know these 0.59
00:27:26.260 types of crimes are pakistani muslim men you know that doesn't mean it's all uh pakistani muslims
00:27:31.120 men and we always have to say that you know if when we say in the UK that um paedophilia is 0.90
00:27:36.500 committed more by white men you know as a white person I don't get offended by that as you know
00:27:43.740 I don't think oh my god they're tarnishing all white people and I don't have to say well not 0.80
00:27:48.540 all white people but when we talk about Pakistani Muslims we do have to always say oh well not
00:27:54.360 everyone yeah well i think we're past that yeah we should be able just to have open and honest
00:28:02.260 conversations about what's going on i mean i was talking to um a pakistani muslim the other day
00:28:08.000 and he was kind of like you know well i'd love to work with you should buy corn because you know
00:28:12.240 you're kind of branded as as far right so you know it might affect me like getting elected or something
00:28:17.860 so you know how can we expect to tackle this issue if you're not even willing to stand up
00:28:25.040 because if if we you know kind of stand back and do nothing i promise you it's going to escalate
00:28:31.500 it's going to get far far worse than what it is now and no one will be safe yeah well sammy i know
00:28:38.960 you have interviews lined up and thank goodness for that and i hope mainstream news starts taking
00:28:45.500 this seriously uh and i'm so sorry for what you've gone through and are continuing to fight for
00:28:51.180 because it's too it's 2026 it seems like this is a middle ages issue yeah it's it's absurd so
00:29:02.520 if anybody wants to i guess donate follow along support where should that where should they go
00:29:11.020 well if it's anything to do with the inquiries it's mp rupert low he's on all social media
00:29:18.100 platforms and i'm also on social media as well so people can follow me the link to the report is on
00:29:24.980 there as well and yeah it'd be great if you know everyone just follows the work of what we're doing
00:29:29.520 support share the more awareness the more we do to educate people the better yeah well thank you
00:29:37.420 thank you very much for coming on. Good luck with everything. Thank you and thank you for having me.