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- December 27, 2024
Doctor On The Carnivore Diet and Fertility | Robert Kiltz EP 218
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Have you gotten in trouble?
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Hey, this guy's telling people to eat more red meat.
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I was born in trouble, I think.
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Born and raised in LA, kicked out of school
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in a gang, couldn't read father in jail.
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Okay.
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Plants are fermentable.
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That means inside your gut, you're making alcohol.
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All of us.
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Heat, gas, methane, aldehydes.
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So our children that are eating primarily
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a plant-based diet are making alcohol.
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We're brainwashed in a modern world.
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We need to be more inspiring.
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And this is meant to invite people in
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and question our thinking.
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Inflammation is a cause of all disease.
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Inflammation is a cause of infertility, miscarriage, suicidality, criminality, depression, anxiety.
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It's all inflammation.
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Most important thing is building your families.
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That's the most important thing.
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If we can help reduce inflammation, we can help so many people conceive and deliver healthy babies without fertility treatment at all.
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Dr. Robert Kiltz, welcome to my podcast.
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Michaela, thank you so much for the invitation.
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Appreciate it.
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I'm very excited to talk about this.
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Before we get started, why don't you give a brief background about who you are and what
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it is you do?
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I'm a fertility doctor.
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I own and run CNY Fertility Centers.
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We're the most affordable and accessible, and we integrate a lot of Eastern and Western
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medicine into our practice.
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I've been doing this for over 30 years.
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and I tripped over carnivore diet and keto diet and paleo diet years ago.
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But before that, I integrated meditation, prayer, acupuncture, massage
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into my practice to help people de-stress.
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It helped.
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And then some of my patients were getting pregnant on paleo diet.
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I'm like, what is that?
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Does diet really matter?
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I thought, no way.
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and i personally had problems with arthritis psoriasis migraines kidney stones bowel bleeding
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for years taking all the drugs and getting all the doctor's visits and dissections and when i
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started looking at it i'm like wow this is amazing science and i personally began to do it and i
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healed tremendously on a paleo diet and so i'm a full-time physician surgeon um i still practice
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medicine fully but i found the health and wellness space and carnivore and mindfulness as really an
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important powerful thing to share to help more people have access to knowledge and information
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that they can heal on simple concepts perfect i've had so many people over the years tell me
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um switching to carnivore that after not having a period or not being able to get pregnant they
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finally got pregnant i was like there's definitely something here so i thought we should delve into
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it what brought you i mean paleo obviously started i started on paleo too and healed a whole bunch of
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my problems it was like wow what brought you into kind of keto and then carnivore well i look back
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at growing up in los angeles i had dyslexia bad migraines bowel problems i was kicked out of school
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in a gang couldn't read and and those are things that that i look back on after going into the
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paleo world and then suddenly feeling better and realize huh could it have been the salads the
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cereals the vegetables and the diet of chips and all those sort of things that i ate for years
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and and so after i was learning some of this from my patients about paleo and started talking about
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and doing it realize that the plants are likely the toxic component that causes most of the
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diseases we're suffering from and as i personally did it going through the paleo and then learning
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about keto and then almost 15 years ago i went carnivore really and literally in a month two
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or three i was like wow gone amazing depression anxiety gone all the things that held me back on
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hemorrhoids gone kidney stones gone and so my job in medicine is to help people heal
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that's why i went into medicine in the first place and i'm like well isn't it my job to give
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you information you may not want to do it you may not believe me but it's my job to give you
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advice that you might get pregnant naturally without me yeah amazing wow i didn't realize
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you started it so long ago so did you do that just by eliminating foods and figuring it out
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yourself or do you hear about it well the paleo was for my patients they were taking the appeal
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then i said start reading about it i did atkins before that i was crazy on exercising to be
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healthy look great all those egotistical things that i thought were really important and and but
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then i realized wow there's something here that our standard diet the pyramid or my plate which
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which is fruits and vegetables, seeds and nuts,
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may be the thing that's harming us more than anything.
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And so I just started reading and reading.
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I met Marie Emmerich and learned about keto.
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And then I saw someone on some video somewhere
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that was doing carnivore.
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He was ripped.
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He didn't exercise.
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And he felt great.
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And I'm like, that one's for me.
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So literally almost 15 years, I'm almost 70.
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And I can tell you, I've never felt better in my life on this.
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And, you know, this is the thing we all need to be talking about.
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And the beauty of social media is that you don't need a degree to learn about your health
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The courses are university level. Thanks guys. Enjoy the rest of the podcast.
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Do you see any reason for concern for the carnivore diet in pregnancy? Like are people
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missing nutrients do you suggest people supplement with folate or vitamins or monitor vitamins
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the fda has a disclaimer on all supplements that there's no evidence that they're beneficial
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what i i get that i didn't know that well the science
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i think sometimes a little snake oil because we're selling a product but i figure for the
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first three and a half million years, we probably wouldn't look for a supplement. And 99.9% of other
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organisms aren't saying, where's my supplement? And I personally don't supplement. Although I
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sell supplements, I pretty much stick with animal-based products and it's usually steak and
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fatty meat as rare or raw as possible. I throw in some livers from time to time or organ meats,
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but I don't think that's critical. The majority of the plants contain the toxins that cause our
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damage and disease, but the animal products have no toxins. And so do you need the supplements or
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the folic acid? I don't know that I can tell you absolutely not, but it doesn't make sense to me
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that we would need that since we evolved without supplements we evolved eating a a species specific
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diet which was primarily animal based i always i look back and imagine we came out of the trees
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to eat the grass eaters and not the grass we're hunters wolves and lions but what we're really
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good at is tool making and working uh as a team in a pack and that's who we are more than anything
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so you know do you need the supplements i say not interesting okay we were just talking before
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we started the podcast i said i like i love children i love babies i hate being pregnant
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i don't like the fatigue like actually the first time i was pregnant i wasn't on the carnivore
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diet i was on um it was a keto diet actually um it was i was basically surviving off of chicken
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wings and greens uh it was like on my segue into the carnivore diet before i knew the carnivore
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diet existed and i was in rough shape this was when i was healing from the autoimmunity i was
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getting off psychiatric medication i was off of it at that point but it like it i felt terrible i
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I was depressed, was itchy.
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My arthritis came back.
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It was not good.
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Second pregnancy, I was just eating meat and I had a meat aversion.
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And I was like, this is never going to happen to me.
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I've been only eating meat.
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It's been seven years now of only eating meat.
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I'm not going to get a meat aversion.
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Do you see meat aversions in pregnancy commonly?
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I didn't have a meat aversion with my first.
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Yes.
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And what do you do for that?
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well there's a lot of psychological components all of this because we're brainwashed with certain
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information that might be subconscious you know meat is bad for you and now you have a baby in
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you and thinking well I was doing it for myself but maybe I have to be careful for my baby so that
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may be a subconscious I definitely didn't have that well but again I'm just again there's the
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conscious part of what i think i know and that there's all that marketing stuff that's been fed
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into our brains for so long that meat's not good for you that might be part of that but i also
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believe that early in pregnancy food aversion is natural yeah because because the food you put in
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your body may be harmful for your baby so hyperemesis or nausea and vomiting early in
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pregnancy it says don't put that food in this body because what is the food and the fuel for
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your baby it's actually your fat we are meant to get fat especially women and then gestate
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potentially hibernate or at least nest so we do not use sugar is not the fuel for your body at
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all it's a glycosylating agent but the way we eat plants sugars which all come from plants
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they're glycating agents. They cause oxidative damage, which is the main cause of reproductive
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dysfunction. Think about polycystic ovarian syndrome. I call it plant-caused ovarian
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sickness. And it's really an easy concept because diabetes and metabolic syndrome and
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pre-diabetes are rampant and pcos is so common infertility is is one in five both a female and
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a male cause by the way it's both i didn't realize that was one in five so that's like similar to
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autoimmunity almost and psychiatric illnesses all of the diseases are on the rise i don't believe
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there's anything there's i don't believe there's such a thing as autoimmune diseases they're
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immunologic reactions to foreign antigens or chemicals or plant sugars, which are antigenic.
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That means you react with redness, swelling, pain, dysfunction, or failure of a cell organ or
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organism. So infertility is on the rise. We know that. Male dysfunction, female dysfunction,
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implantation dysfunction. And is it simply that the plants don't want you to reproduce?
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They actually have created this system that you want to eat them, consume them, so they can
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reduce your fertility. Maybe. But the birth control pill and the abortion pill were first
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developed through plants, medicinal purposes. They came from plants. And so we use these devices
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today in a science in a in a pharmaceutically created drug but initially it was all from from
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plants and so the aversion is normal and natural in order to protect your baby from the poisons of
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plants and getting fat for pregnancy is natural and normal but the problem is is that we have over
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access and consumption of a plant-based diet which is our biggest problem we're poisoned by plants
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how do you feel about plants like blueberries lettuce like i'm not talking about processed
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foods or grains uh i had a terrible reaction to dairy too actually for my arthritis and
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and the psychiatric issues but how do you feel about these kind of like lower toxin plants
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berries certain fruit let's say lettuces stuff like that do you think that's just a net negative
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for people or do you think a healthy person can incorporate that in without noticing any
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well i call salad and lettuce nature's toilet paper i like lettuce you can never clean it enough
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yeah you can't wash it off unfortunately oh i do know that you can't i mean the number one recalled
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food in the world is usually a plant-based it's usually vegetables and fruits are recalled yeah
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Due to contamination through the microbes, which are everywhere.
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But I think that, yes, you can consume small amounts of plants from time to time.
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But if you're doing it all the time, that's not good.
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And if you happen to have an anaphylactic reaction to it, you may be dead.
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And so I know my daughter is highly allergic to bananas and avocados.
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Wow.
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Okay, well, avocados are so good for you.
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mm-hmm that's a marketing ploy in order to get you and i buying it and it's not good for us in
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my opinion it might be the thing that shows up as infertility or miscarriage which is simply an
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immunologic reaction inside your body not on the outside of your body because we think of allergies
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as swelling redness you know arthritis and things like that but not realizing that all those same
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things are happening inside your body and that's as simple as all it is yeah well i i do completely
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agree with that i mean my life completely changed with removing plants from my diet i had to remove
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everything and be strict too like everything needs to be gone it was just i'm just eating
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ruminant meat you know i barely do i can do like really really healthy like hippie chickens that
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haven't eaten corn and soy i can do a little bit of that but it doesn't make me feel very good like
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i would say you know 99.99 percent of my diet is just red meat and and i'm fine and i don't
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supplement and i don't eat organs either you know i've always had a like to liver and um it hasn't
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impacted me it's been seven years yeah i don't need a lot of liver and i don't think you need
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it i think if you like it maybe your body needs it but if you don't like it then i love goose
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liver and duck liver well chicken liver is a lot better but then i don't eat chicken
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and veal liver is not bad cow liver though well can you imagine us hunting chickens 50 000 years
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ago we didn't imagine myself hunting a chicken but but i mean no one hunted chickens yeah we
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hunted the big beasts not big enough i mean chickens either aren't big enough but they
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don't have much fat and so we need to eat fat eating fat is the healthiest thing you can do
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because in adipose tissue is every mineral, vitamin, amino acid, simple sugar, and fatty
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acid your body requires. Bears hibernate for six months and they gestate one to four
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baby bears. They lose no muscle mass, no bone mass. They lose only one thing, adipose tissue.
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So I think we've got it all wrong thinking that fat is bad for us. It's actually the
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healthiest thing you could eat and obesity doesn't cause disease what you ate causes the
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disease you suffer from that's really the simple story in all of this okay interesting i guessed
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obviously i like i guessed that when when i originally went on the um the lion diet i lost
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a bunch of weight right away uh which was great because i just had a baby and was like fantastic
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like the last, it wasn't a lot of weight. It was like 15 pounds that was bothering me. Um,
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and that was coming from like a keto chicken, chicken and lettuce diet. Uh, and I lost that
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right away. I was like a fantastic, but what's funny is over the next, I was breastfeeding over
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the next eight months I gained weight again. Uh, but when I gained it and then eventually lost
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that, I didn't get the same type of reaction to losing weight as I did the first time.
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so I was thinking like the first time I lost weight I had body odor I kind of felt like I was
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detoxing and like no tests for this or anything but like I had a taste in my mouth and things and
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I was losing weight and was like this doesn't feel very good and then about a year later when
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I gained some weight just eating meat because I was eating I was eating like three pounds of meat
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a day so you can gain weight sure like eating copious amounts of meat I was breastfeeding
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when I lost that weight I didn't have the same weird taste in my mouth and I was like I wonder
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if the fat that I made when I was just eating meat was a healthier fat? Well, your body makes
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only healthy things for your body. Your body doesn't make anything unhealthy. Technically,
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the liver's job is to convert amino acids and simple sugars via insulin to fat. So as you make
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fat and getting fat, that's healthy for you. What if your diet has been primarily fat that
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doesn't come from like red meat well fat comes from an animal oils come from plants
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whether it's ruminant meat or chicken fat or duck fat um fish fat you know i don't think those are
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our culprits in our diseases yeah yeah i think really it's plant products are the main culprit
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of our diseases it's hard to believe this right but you know could cholesterol be bad for you
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your body makes it could visceral fat be bad for you how is it that any fat your body makes is bad
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for you does it make any sense why would your body make this fat bad and this fat good
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makes no sense fat is the fuel and the building block for your body and it's the fuel and
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building blocks for your baby and it provides all the repair tissue for your body what causes ill
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health is a plant protein-based diet. Plants and proteins are fermentable. That means inside your
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gut, you're making alcohol, all of us, heat, gas, methane, aldehydes, which circulate throughout
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your body. So our children that are eating primarily a plant protein-based diet are making
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alcohol because the microbes are everywhere. And the microbiome that everyone says is really good
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for you, maybe it's there, but maybe it's not so good for you because it's fermenting. And
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if you've read anything from James Henry Salisbury, the Salisbury state guy, Dr. Salisbury,
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he graduated Albany Med in 1850s. He went on to the Civil War. His men were dying of dysentery
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and pneumonia he figured out the microbes were flourishing on a plant-based diet he switched
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them to a meat-based diet and they heal wow i haven't heard this that's funny so now for women
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vaginitis vaginosis cervicitis cervical cancers endometritis endometriosis
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which all lead to reproductive dysfunction the fermentation of the microbes in the gut
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goes out the rectum and the anus and goes right up into the vagina oh my gosh that's horrifying
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it's i mean it's the nature of all things but we're eating a much higher plant-based diet than
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ever before and we're eating too many meals a day and the most important thing we're missing is fat
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we're not eating it you might cook with it but you're not eating it and so by simply eating fat
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raw butter i do cream but i'm not a big milk fan in general i don't think it's good for us
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mother's breast milk is good but beyond that it's fatty meat is what we should really eat
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to be the healthiest but the fat have you ever noticed that butter never molds yeah last forever
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fat kills the microbes in the gut which are actually harmful for us. Everyone says your
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microbiome is so important. It's the glycobiome that's the most important thing for you
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which is actually the sugar layer on every cell of your body which protects the epithelial layer.
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It's like the soil and the plants.
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And I notice the gardening going on out here.
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Without the plants in the soil, there would be immense erosion of the soil, correct?
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The same thing is happening to your skin inside and out as we damage the sugar layer and it erodes.
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and that's happening in our gut which causes leaky gut which causes things to get in or out
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that we want not to be in or out and these lectins oxalates phytates or other antigens
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including the microbes now get into your bloodstream and they cause the diseases we're
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all been suffering from since the dawn of time. So what do you recommend just real quick for
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somebody who's suffering from infertility and is going to go the diet route to get healthy?
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What do you recommend like as an average day of meals, what should they be eating?
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Well, I, and how often I personally think one meal a day or less is likely what we evolved eating.
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I think three to six meals a day makes no sense. And that's kind of what the average
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your recommendations are but i called the baby's diet bacon eggs butter beef you can have my ice
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cream kills his ice cream from time to time and salt and and so it's you know bacon and it doesn't
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it could be beef bacon lamb bacon goat bacon i don't care but there's no such thing as turkey
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bacon because turkey bacon is all fake it doesn't have any fat yeah but that's generally my
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recommendation i've seen so many women and men improve their sperm their eggs their embryos even
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low amhs under point under one definitely can improve their reproductive function by going on
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the baby's diet and you know you can do you can just do a lion's diet which is radically great
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too and again these ideas sound wrong but is what you're doing working it's not so why wouldn't you
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look at something completely opposite. I mean, I'm a, I do shots, pills, surgeries to help people
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have babies all day long. I will do whatever you want and need. My job is to give you ideas,
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to give you the power to make the changes. And usually I ask my clients, what would you do to
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have a baby? And the answer is usually anything, anything. Would you change your diet? Even if
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it's for 30 days and see what happens? Absolutely. And so our job, the part of the problem is
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the American College of OBGYN recommends a plant-based low animal fat diet,
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little to no red wine. They do get, no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. They recommend plant-based
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little to no red meat and they recommend red wine for pregnant lactating women.
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that's in the recommendations that's in the recommendations how did that get in
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hmm gee somebody lactating made that well i you know like anything else there's you know i rub
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your back you rub my back yeah you know we're gonna give you some money to help you and promote
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health and wellness through a plant-based diet um and you know what can you do for us
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and unfortunately we know that science and medicine has been been usurped by money
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and profits over mommies and parents and that's the sad part that I've learned in this business
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but I'm not in a mission to try to chastise anyone else my job is to give you the knowledge
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and the power to change your life because in fact you're responsible for it and if you spend a lot
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of time, blaming others doesn't work in my opinion. You want to say, you know what I've
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learned from what has happened. My job is to change what I do for me and my family and what
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I can teach everyone else out there. Precisely, precisely. How do you feel about the new
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administration and this whole make America healthy again movement? Do you think it's
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going to go anywhere? Do you think they're focused on the right things?
00:26:43.600
you're responsible what happens in your life no one else and i think it's good to see change
00:26:51.800
we need motivation and inspiration and i think we're seeing that and change is critical in life
00:26:59.100
you know health care costs are on the rise bankruptcy from health care costs is on the
00:27:06.520
rise and our health and wellness is not improving we're going downhill and look at keto is easy
00:27:15.700
everyone could be keto you might do fine on keto but keto is made up it's not true
00:27:23.340
you're the you're the herbivore a carnivore or an omnivore those are the three diets we can be
00:27:32.100
on divorce but carnivore is the greatest thing i've ever learned it's what i live okay i will
00:27:40.700
have a cookie cake or ice cream from time to time i'm great at minimization i rarely drink a martini
00:27:47.620
i kind of stay away from any of the other drugs like i mean the government unfortunately is
00:27:54.680
supporting marijuana, tobacco, and alcohol.
00:27:58.640
Are those good for us?
00:28:00.740
They're deadly.
00:28:02.280
I don't recommend any of them for us.
00:28:04.560
But they're there.
00:28:07.140
Let's each of us take on the responsibility
00:28:09.320
of taking care of ourselves,
00:28:11.580
feeding our families,
00:28:13.000
and teaching our children properly.
00:28:15.180
And being a lion is a little more powerful
00:28:18.980
than being a lamb, I think.
00:28:20.840
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
00:28:22.180
you know it does that it does sound crazy but i don't know seems to work so like i mean and it's
00:28:28.940
worth a shot especially if you're suffering from a chronic disease or something as terrible as
00:28:32.860
infertility is like try it because what you're doing isn't working well all right i got a
00:28:39.800
beautiful young lady a lift driver bringing me here she's in her early 40s and and she's already
00:28:46.040
had um uh gastric bypass surgery didn't work she's already had a stroke okay and and what do
00:28:56.960
we keep on saying well it's just it's just another drug or another dissection or another doctor on
00:29:01.560
you're not eating the right you're not eating enough fruits and vegetables and
00:29:06.120
we in modern medicine believe that story but there is another story that in actuality what
00:29:16.640
we're telling people is wrong and i want to inspire my brothers and sisters in medicine
00:29:23.160
to give it a do you got to try it yourself and the young lady didn't know my full name because
00:29:32.580
they don't get your full name on your lift, uh, uh, order anymore. And I, you know, I said,
00:29:37.800
listen, look up dr kilts.com, but there's so many people out there that are sharing this concept
00:29:43.420
and idea. And you being overweight is the cause of no disease because we also medicine is very
00:29:52.520
negatively judgmental against obesity. And I think that's wrong because being told that you're
00:30:00.280
unhealthy and obese all the time and everything you do fails, how does that make you feel?
00:30:06.400
Depressed. And what do you want to do when you're depressed? Eat foods that make you feel good,
00:30:12.200
which all are plant-based because plants contain small amounts of opium, heroin, cocaine, marijuana,
00:30:19.520
nicotine, caffeine, which all are good for you. They're deadly. And so I think we need to treat
00:30:27.440
people with love and kindness inspire them what can i do to get you what you want and to me it's
00:30:34.160
these concepts of the lion's way because lions are not the masses
00:30:42.800
they're the the small in number but they have strength and i want to invite everyone
00:30:50.720
they have the ability themselves to make the change but you must listen to the stories
00:30:59.200
because we're all storytellers we've been listening to the propaganda of the story that
00:31:04.760
basically we should eat the fruits and vegetables which has put us in this predicament
00:31:08.100
and red meat causes so many diseases yeah anyone you know ever had an anaphylactic reaction to
00:31:14.820
ribeye steak no never no but it is interesting when some people start carnivore they they have
00:31:22.720
stomach upset or they feel miserable i was one of those well i didn't feel miserable i started
00:31:27.820
feeling better pretty quick but like it was rough going from keto to just eating red meat it like
00:31:33.440
hurt for six weeks were rough but that was like cravings digestive problems i was very sick though
00:31:40.860
and like it went away but yeah I had a miserable time weaning in I know people who start and
00:31:47.080
they're on day three and they're like oh my gosh I feel amazing like there are people like that
00:31:52.060
but I was one of those people that was like every day I was like oh I hope this works because this
00:31:56.580
sucks for for about six weeks and then at the six week point I was like you know what
00:32:01.960
I'm not crying in the morning anymore you know things are slowly looking up but it was it was
00:32:09.200
it was difficult it's not difficult at all anymore those things in life that are the most valuable
00:32:14.660
are the hardest to obtain and these are the training grounds if someone says it's easy you
00:32:19.840
walk away you want hard in life you want struggles you must look back at all of your stress and
00:32:26.400
struggles and hardships and trauma as god's gift to make you stronger and better in life
00:32:31.220
and lions are the leaders and sheep are the followers we want to inspire and invite all of
00:32:39.080
our sheep friends and family members to come to the lion's way and it's a game changer but it
00:32:45.800
starts with faith in god in my opinion and god is within all of us i don't care what your religion
00:32:50.980
is if you have faith and love and kindness to the person suffering you can bring them and help them
00:32:59.140
That's what our job really is and I think modern science and medicine can do it
00:33:04.020
We can be better, but I'm not waiting for anyone else to do that
00:33:08.260
My job in life is to share these ideas and help inspire each and every one of us to be the change
00:33:15.380
ourselves
00:33:16.380
Have you gotten in trouble? Like has anyone?
00:33:20.260
I don't know gone to some board and said hey this guy's telling people to eat more red meat
00:33:25.180
You know, I was born in trouble. I think
00:33:27.580
I was born, born and raised in LA, kicked out of school in a gang, couldn't read father in jail.
00:33:33.500
Okay. That was my background. But, um, yes, I have been reported to the New York state,
00:33:38.840
uh, licensure board by patient who commented that I was teaching and sharing this idea about a
00:33:44.840
carnivore diet. Um, and, uh, yeah, you know, but it inspires me. And then when I went to the board
00:33:52.660
and they said, Dr. Kiltz, I'm really sorry. We just got to talk to you about this and we know
00:33:57.160
you're doing great things but thank you very much oh okay they're very nice about that's super
00:34:02.540
promising they were very supportive and nice about it because they realize that people bring a lot of
00:34:06.900
things and you know and our job in life as doctors is medical professionals by the way i think
00:34:13.280
nurse practitioners and doctors should be on an equal level in the way of practicing medicine
00:34:20.680
and helping people heal and we're going to see so many more nurse practitioners coming up and
00:34:25.720
helping people in a way that we've never seen before. There are not enough people out there
00:34:31.020
that are practicing medicine. We need more people, but we all, we need more people sharing health and
00:34:37.460
wellness through ideas that are not standard medicine. That's so important. I know. I completely
00:34:46.260
agree. Uh, so when, when someone comes in and says they're having actually, no, before we get
00:34:52.060
to that, you said you have an affordable medical center. So if you're doing IVF treatments and
00:34:58.260
you're doing kind of the standard, well, IVF treatment things, how do you make it more
00:35:02.960
affordable than, than normal? I'm kind of dumb. When I started my fertility practice 25, 30 years
00:35:12.380
ago, I got paid $2,000 to deliver a baby at two in the morning after nine months of care.
00:35:17.860
i started doing ivf at the same time i said well why would i get made paid more money than
00:35:23.860
what i do for nine months and delivery do in the morning suffering from not having a
00:35:28.900
building a family and children is is growing and it's so common and ultimately the foundation of
00:35:36.280
life is not podcasting or not being a doctor but building your family that is the most important
00:35:42.260
thing. And when it's not happening naturally, it's horrible. And CNY Fertility, I started
00:35:50.160
and my whole intention in life is to help more people. And so we keep, keep going on the mission
00:36:01.020
as much as we can. I'm the fourth largest IVF center in America and the only one that's
00:36:07.380
privately held by myself. No venture capital money. I'm not chastising the venture capital
00:36:13.720
money or anything. I think that has a lot of real value in our world, even in medicine and
00:36:18.460
fertility. But the mission I'm on is to continue to keep it affordable even when I'm gone.
00:36:26.200
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00:37:42.820
i've seen with like religious background or christian background they're like ivf is not
00:37:47.540
natural therefore it's not good driving a car's not natural either but i think god created that
00:37:54.300
also as he created fertility care but there are ways to help people because the religious beliefs
00:38:00.960
in many cases we might freeze eggs and sperm and we might only make one embryo at a time
00:38:07.080
and these this egg sperm and embryos are not mine they belong to the couples they came from
00:38:12.280
and so you're the one that determines it um obviously with a lot of law changes in america
00:38:17.960
and people are concerned about that but i think the most important thing is focus on making babies
00:38:22.560
and building your family, and the rest will fall into place.
00:38:26.100
You know, we're not interested in throwing away your embryos,
00:38:28.720
but if you want to minimize the number of embryos you make,
00:38:31.660
we can help you with that.
00:38:32.960
Mm, I haven't heard that before.
00:38:34.920
Yeah.
00:38:35.860
That's smart.
00:38:36.720
And even for some people that don't want to do IVF,
00:38:39.780
they can do intrauterine inseminations or IUI.
00:38:44.120
There are some surgical procedures that can be done.
00:38:47.100
I talk a lot about inflammation.
00:38:49.940
inflammation is the cause of all disease
00:38:53.300
inflammation is the cause of infertility
00:38:56.100
miscarriage
00:38:56.960
inflammation is the cause of suicidality
00:39:01.940
criminality, depression, anxiety
00:39:04.280
it's all inflammation
00:39:05.220
inflammation is caused by five primarial things
00:39:09.200
plant sugars
00:39:10.980
plant antigens
00:39:13.500
plant chemicals
00:39:15.160
the fermentation of the plants in the gut
00:39:18.540
and excessive exercise causing inflammation causes inflammation. And so if we can help
00:39:29.160
reduce inflammation, we can help so many people conceive and deliver healthy babies without
00:39:35.060
fertility treatment at all. And if we can help you with a baby in utero or you breastfeeding
00:39:46.300
or you, once you've birthed your children and now you're raising them,
00:39:52.860
understand that a high animal fat diet is actually the best thing you can do
00:39:59.740
and a high plant-based diet may not be the best thing for you.
00:40:05.560
Now, why some people get sicknesses and diseases from one thing or another,
00:40:11.040
we don't know.
00:40:13.000
We just don't know.
00:40:14.000
Is it your genetic predisposition, environmental factors?
00:40:19.140
I mean, it's complicated.
00:40:23.020
But I like Occam's razor.
00:40:26.220
The simple answer is the one.
00:40:29.460
We make it too complicated.
00:40:33.140
You know what you need to do for your family.
00:40:38.360
Love.
00:40:40.300
Kindness.
00:40:40.840
and tell your husband how wonderful they are every day.
00:40:50.100
Feed him steak and eggs every day
00:40:52.560
and make love to him every day.
00:40:56.820
And remember, love doesn't have to be sex.
00:41:00.920
Sensuality, connection, kindness,
00:41:03.880
which in our world today of fast pace,
00:41:08.160
you've got to succeed at this or that.
00:41:10.840
You already are successful because you're alive and you and I will die.
00:41:17.560
But before we get there, let's make what we do the best for humanity.
00:41:24.620
That's to me, the most important thing we can do every day.
00:41:28.580
Oh, that got me.
00:41:30.560
That was really nice.
00:41:32.220
That was, yeah, I needed to hear that today.
00:41:33.900
That's good.
00:41:34.780
We were talking before we started the episode.
00:41:36.800
I said, like, I didn't enjoy part of the reason I didn't enjoy pregnancy.
00:41:39.940
part of it like the first one there were a bunch of factors in that but then more recently it was
00:41:44.700
like I'm in a really loving relationship I'm really happy I'm pregnant like I'm really excited
00:41:48.400
for the baby like why am I uncomfortable and I did have a meat aversion it wasn't I wasn't vomiting
00:41:54.760
I didn't have nausea it was like low level but it was just kind of like ick um and that was one
00:42:00.700
thing but I think I was frustrated a lot of it was frustration at being tired because you get
00:42:06.280
pregnant and you kind of want to sleep. Like you don't have, I've got, I'm a very driven person.
00:42:11.980
And I, and I know like to a bad, to a bad point where I realized, I realized this two days ago,
00:42:20.300
two days ago, actually, I was thinking, you know, a lot of people live their life as if they're
00:42:26.840
working towards something and then the goal moves and you're never achieving that goal.
00:42:31.560
You're always working towards something. And that's partly from how I was raised was like,
00:42:35.860
have a goal and aim at it because who knows what you can accomplish, which I do believe.
00:42:40.560
But I've also gotten into the routine of forgetting that this is actually my life.
00:42:45.100
Yeah. Like everything I do each day is my life. There's not this thing I'm reaching for. That's
00:42:51.360
going to be my life. Like this is, this is my life. I'm like, I need to spend more time being
00:42:58.000
like in gratitude, being happy and being like, this is amazing right now. It's not the next
00:43:05.620
thing that i'm aiming for that's going to change something like this is life so that that was like
00:43:11.660
that was a good thing to say because i think people forget that especially if they're driven
00:43:16.180
and why some of us are more driven than others is a mystery we don't know that by the grace of god
00:43:24.140
go i but the stuff we have or the things we do have little real value in the scheme of the universe
00:43:32.200
except it gives us value in the accomplishment.
00:43:37.980
But I think the best thing we do is help others in life,
00:43:44.060
give to others in some way, right?
00:43:46.280
And I absolutely know and believe what you're doing is powerful
00:43:51.160
because so many people are learning from what you do
00:43:55.260
and what you've shared of your pain and difficulties.
00:43:59.160
And I think that's important.
00:44:00.640
We're storytellers.
00:44:02.200
but we got to you know it's the fall first right the pain and suffering and then it's coming up to
00:44:10.520
the heroes the journey it's that journey for all of us that's the powerful part right so we're here
00:44:16.180
talking and sharing stories and other people are listening and we listen to their stories too
00:44:21.420
which is the most powerful thing in the universe and i imagine as we evolved over millions of years
00:44:28.820
we've been doing this since the beginning the stories and the beauty is we can do it
00:44:36.420
you know here I am visiting with you in your studio but we can do it now in so many amazing
00:44:41.680
ways to technology and we learn from each other but I think it's the doing so for me I get up
00:44:51.920
every morning at 3 to 4 a.m. I do my meditation and prayer. I do my hundred pushups. I will do
00:45:00.980
my live at five Monday through Friday. It's my, it's my actual daily meditative work to connect
00:45:07.880
with God and the universe and other people. I talk about faith and food and fitness and lots
00:45:12.860
of other things related to all this stuff we're talking about. And, and I run a large business
00:45:19.000
and relationship and family and all these sort of things.
00:45:22.580
But at the end of the day, I take one to three naps a day.
00:45:28.080
Oh, interesting.
00:45:30.140
I go to bed at eight to nine o'clock at night.
00:45:35.360
We need to rest more and nap more to reset the synapse.
00:45:41.900
It's napping.
00:45:42.740
It could be five to 10 minutes.
00:45:44.220
That's all it takes.
00:45:45.180
and so we've been brainwashed with nappings you shouldn't nap you gotta keep going and then you're
00:45:55.060
taking all your power drinks right your energy drinks right like we got to get rid of most of
00:46:00.180
that you don't need it but we're addicted to it we line up in lines to get all this
00:46:04.940
addictive drinks and addictive foods and addictive things to keep us going
00:46:09.680
take a nap you're pro nap yeah I think I was so chronically fatigued when I was sick
00:46:18.460
I was sleeping 18 hours a day I was on Adderall to just try and be awake that I was like as soon
00:46:25.080
as I got healthy it was like I have energy this is what energy feels like I'm awake I was like
00:46:30.160
oh I never want to nap again I had like an aversion to sleep after you know I don't know
00:46:36.020
how many years maybe 10 years of chronic fatigue it was like and so i know part of it's psychological
00:46:41.580
because people are like yeah i take a nap in the afternoon it's amazing and it's like
00:46:44.900
i hate naps and i think part of it's psychological from the aversion to napping because of chronic
00:46:49.800
fatigue napping is critical lions most carnivores sleep a lot we insist our children when they're
00:47:01.800
very young nap you know how they get cranky and they take a nap and they feel better I have a
00:47:07.140
couch in every office that I have and I'll shut the door and people know oh he's taking his 10
00:47:13.640
minute nap it might be one time a day it might be three times day I might drive to work and the
00:47:19.140
first thing I do is lay down and I take a five to ten minute but I'm I'm going through a prayer
00:47:24.660
ritual it's usually thank you God creator for everything in my life I go through all the people
00:47:29.580
of my life with gratitude i'll even go through the the hardships the challenges and even the
00:47:36.080
judgment negatively with love and kindness and generosity because the mindset is the critical
00:47:44.100
part to this story if you're working to accomplish something you want to listen and learn from others
00:47:51.920
that have done it you want to read about it you want to immerse yourself in it you're a print
00:47:57.400
we're apprenticing life this is an apprenticeship right this idea that we show up and we know
00:48:02.520
everything yeah i'm a failure i fail all the time but that's what you want to lead yourself to
00:48:09.660
i learned to fly airplanes at 55 jets at 62 cool i i you know it's kind of amazing you know every
00:48:17.300
year i go for my in scottsdale go for my single pilot recurrence training in a simulator they try
00:48:22.640
to kill me you know it's kind of hard in a simulator i always bring a co-pilot when i
00:48:29.620
fly at 41 000 feet but life is full of co-piloting you can google anything today you can listen and
00:48:40.540
watch someone doing something to learn something that's the beauty of the universe today
00:48:45.100
and the beauty of like gee i got psoriasis you know what can i learn to do or yeah or i've got
00:48:51.980
migraines, or I'm kind of depressed. I learned, Mrs. Wong in high school taught me to throw on
00:49:02.900
the potter's wheel and make jewelry. I sell cups online, kilts cups. They're made out of clay.
00:49:11.560
I call them, they're made out of stardust. But I make cups that are all unique and different.
00:49:17.480
but we are all unique and different and so then i learned to paint about 15 20 years ago i went to
00:49:26.160
the modern art museum in in in paris with my daughter and like a million dollar painting
00:49:33.120
on a dot of white on a black canvas i said i could do that and so the trick of life is that
00:49:39.480
you can do anything because you're a human being. You are a goddess and a God because it's built in
00:49:48.080
our DNA, all of us, but the programs that we've been living are what we're not.
00:49:57.800
And I always say, you just turn it around. And that's the most powerful thing we can all do
00:50:04.320
every single day listen and learn from others who have succeeded at what we wish to succeed at
00:50:10.120
yeah when i first decided so it like when i'm thinking back about what happened to me
00:50:20.040
i the first thing i did was decide to get healthy yeah right and i wasn't very old and i'd been
00:50:27.340
told my entire life that i was going to have like these diseases especially the rheumatoid arthritis
00:50:32.300
us forever there was no cure there was some promising new medication and like i'd been on
00:50:38.700
it was like this is this ain't it uh but i remember at one point i was like if i keep going down this
00:50:45.980
route i'm gonna die that's what's gonna happen to me like if i keep taking this medication and i
00:50:51.120
keep disintegrating because my joints were disintegrating i'm gonna die um so rather than
00:50:57.080
that I'm going to do whatever I can to be healthy. And I think I just got to the point where I was
00:51:02.400
old enough. And I think younger people can do this too. But for me, I was, I was on a lot of
00:51:06.340
medication. I was very brain foggy. I was 23 at the time. And I was like, I'm going to either
00:51:11.860
get healthy or I'm going to die trying to get healthy. And after chronic illness for my entire
00:51:17.840
life, it took eight months after that, I was in biomedical science trying to like research my way
00:51:22.980
out of it took eight months after that to restrict down my diet and restrict enough things that my
00:51:29.920
symptoms started to go away. I was like, as soon as, so basically as soon as I decided I'm going
00:51:35.600
to do whatever it takes to get healthy, eight months later, I put myself in remission. I was
00:51:40.560
like, that's not very long. Like mindset's huge. And you don't have a disease and you're not in
00:51:50.500
remission think about poison ivy do you have a poison ivy disease definitely you've been exposed
00:51:58.960
to a toxin that causes every disease we suffer from that's all it is it's simple remove the
00:52:07.120
toxins oh yeah yeah yeah i do believe that yeah but basically we live our diseases right i i'm in
00:52:15.760
remission right i will have like i will have this disease forever which i don't believe
00:52:22.780
neither do i we're brainwashed and then we're all giving money to more of the science of finding a
00:52:33.340
cure for a disease which is simply secondary to plant poisoning and low-fat diet that's it
00:52:41.980
but we learn that's the beauty of humanity we're able to learn and change and the real drive
00:52:51.420
you had the drive i mean i kind of tripped over it i i didn't you know i was taking all the drugs
00:52:57.520
and seeing the doctors for all the problems i suffer including arthritis psoriasis migraines
00:53:02.400
etc depression anxiety adhd ocd wow we have a lot of labels of problems i know i know we do
00:53:10.700
i had a lot of labels too and the books that we have to look up all the codes to give you a
00:53:15.120
diagnosis to make sure that you get the right care and i get paid right it's like ridiculous
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yeah i was mad when i found out that rheumatoid when i was a kid i used to go to the hospital for
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sick children in toronto and the rheumatoid arthritis ward was right next to the lupus ward
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but they were separate wards it was like treated as a completely different thing
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and then when i got healthy and was like those even manifest almost identically but the race
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like they're even the research into it is separated because they have different names
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it's like this is crazy this is crazy these are all caused by the same thing same thing
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my sister marianne died at 52 she was diagnosed with diabetes type 1 at age 4
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and i never understood the disease truly my best friend from medical school dave died at 52
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the same year he is a healthy guy amazingly healthy
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gets diagnosed with leukemia and three months later he's dead
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and so the question was why and this is all the same time i'm beginning to dig deep into
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understanding the why part of it. Cancers are caused by antigens. And the number one antigen
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is a sugar from a plant. The glycocalyx is the sugar layer that is actually the barcode of our
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body. And so the, the fatty membrane of the cell has embedded proteins in them. And then there are
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sugars that are the antenna or the transmitter that is the cause of all our disease. So you
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have a specific human leukocyte antigen marker made up of some sugars. All organisms have unique
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sugars that are part of their body.
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So every muscle cell, every cell of every tissue of our body and every animal we eat
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or microbe contains fats, proteins, and sugars.
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The sugars are antigenic, not the proteins.
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Your blood type is determined by a sugar, not a protein.
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And so when we understand the glycocalyx and the glycobiome, we'll understand how diseases really happen.
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And bacteria, yeast, and viruses all have their own sugar layer.
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A sperm and egg has its own sugar layer.
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So the sperm must attach to the egg's sugar layer in order to fertilize it.
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If that sugar layer is damaged, guess what?
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It won't fertilize.
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If the embryo sugar layer is damaged or the uterine lining sugar layer is damaged, it can't implant.
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So if I'm putting foreign sugars into you and I'm putting a lot of sugar into you, it's going to damage your body.
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It's going to damage your glycobiome, your glycocalyx, blood vessels, lymphatics, peritoneal surfaces.
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Every cell of your body has a sugar layer.
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If I damage it, I erode the cells.
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And so very few people know about the glycocalyx and the glycobiome.
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Everyone's talking about how important the microbiome is.
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It's a killer.
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the microbes are there that doesn't mean they're good for you would you put bacteria yeast or a
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virus would you inject it into your bloodstream of course not so what do you think about these
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studies on like certain certain say saccharomyces you know they say when you take antibiotics take
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saccharomyces which is like it's a yeast right probiotic what do you think about that kind of
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thing do you think they're all bad across the board or is it like the majority of what we're
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eat like what we're growing on a standard american diet just isn't good for us we don't need that
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type of variety well we're feeding the microbes yeah and then we're blaming the microbes for the
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disease when it's the plants so our studies we've been focusing on oh those microbes are really
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important for you well you're right when you're sick don't they tend to be really abnormal in
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amounts or the different species but that doesn't mean they're the cause of it the plant sugars i
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see are the cause because i'm feeding the microbes with things they like in an in an aerobic
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environment or right no no oxygen and so those microbes make all the the alcohol aldehydes
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methane and more heat is is heat in your colon good for you if i heat up your colon what's that
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going to do to your reproductive system it's going to damage it so is is probiotic world a
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billion dollar business yeah so am i gonna am i gonna support the science on that one
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I am but it's wrong I believe again you know that the majority of the scientists in medicine
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recommend a plant-based diet yeah but you know what it did to you and I know what it did to me
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and I believe that a plant-based low-fat diet causes cancer and I mention low-fat because if
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you're eating a lot of lean meat you're also fermenting in your gut and a protein poisoning
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is real plant poisoning is real you will kill a cow if you feed it fat did you know that
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no do you know why because the microbes in the rumen are killed on a fat diet
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a cow cannot live without the microbes it requires that we do not can you eat plants
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and live a long time sure you can but unfortunately sudden death from cancers or stroke or heart
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disease is very common i was just talking to one of my patients his wife just died in bed
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they don't know why she died in her 30s unknown cause
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wow i wonder if it could be the plants which are fermenting and providing the toxins that they make
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in order to control and kill you which seems kind of radical and crazy right but
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is our world do we care more for the you know the people who make a lot of money
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or for the peasants in the world money has become the mission of our world and money
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should never be the thing you go for helping people that's what we're here to do but i think
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we're we're we're sort of um distracted i love pizza pasta and bread so good yeah small amounts
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from time to time is not your killer unless you have an anaphylactic reaction and we don't know
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who or why my partner was on on uh highway 90 a few years ago after having a dinner with some crab
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which she'd had before she gets an anaphylactic reaction on the road pulls over calls 9-1-1
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she survived thankfully but why we are allergic to some things and not others i don't know which
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one when i don't know but ribeye steak yeah never heard of it yep cool okay where can people find
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you online where can they go to see your your morning live uh dr kilts.com is a good place
01:01:40.320
to surf and uh i'm on instagram youtube facebook i think i'm on tiktok but i don't know and
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thankfully I have some people that helped me do this but I get on my lives myself usually
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5 a.m. Monday through Friday Eastern Time and I take questions comments I do I read some quotes
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from other beautiful people who've written great stuff and I talk about keto carnivore and I put
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the keto in there by the way because it gets you in the waiting room of life and that's real
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important. It's the on-ramp. Uh, but you know, I, I'm, I, uh, I go to meetups around the country
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around the world. I'll be in London, uh, on, uh, on Saturday. I'm looking forward to going to, uh,
01:02:24.180
Australia next year. Uh, but, uh, just look up dr kilts.com and, uh, you could even text me.
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People find my cell phone number online and I share this all day long because we're here to
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share the word in the way and helping people heal. That's so nice. Well, thank you very much
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for joining me. It was interesting. And thank you for all you do. You know, I, I agree. Like,
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I think I've had so many friends, especially my age grow up and be like, yeah, we'll put off kids,
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have a career. You can do it later. And then because of the health crisis, it's like,
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can you do it later like that's that's risky and just devalues how much happiness even though i
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really don't enjoy being pregnant and who knows what kind of issues that's because of but it
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there's just there's like nothing that's more actual soul fulfilling you know most important
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thing is building your families and whether you're reproducing yourself or you're helping
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others and their reproduction that's the most important thing but i think that we're brainwashed
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in our modern world you know we're oh it's too difficult it's too hard you shouldn't do that
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and we need to be more inspiring and we're a village this is really a village of helping
01:03:41.440
people this is this is meant to invite people in to these podcasts and ask questions and and
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question our thinking and what are we thinking why this or that but you know i appreciate you
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and what you're sharing uh it is important to share our stories because we're just another
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the story yeah i think i guess i'll close with this i think one of the reasons too we've been
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brainwashed right into thinking that a career and making money and accomplishing things whatever
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that is is more important than having a family which you can do whenever later um i think part
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of the reason it's gotten so difficult now is because people don't have these communities
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around them to raise kids anymore so like my best friend had kids she's in downtown toronto
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none of her friends had any I had moved away so it's like she's at home by herself and she loves
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her kids and like wouldn't change anything but it's it's isolating for people like I went I spent
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time in in Serbia and it was so surprising to me to go outside to a cafe and there were all these
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people in their like late 20s early 30s that had two or three kids running around and they were
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sitting at a table all together like one person would be breastfeeding and they were just hanging
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out with each other and their kids were hanging out together. And I was like, you just don't see
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that. You know, you're kind of depending on where you live, you're kind of scoffed at. If you go to
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a restaurant with little kids, they're like, Oh, is this little kid going to be a problem? And you
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go to other places in the, in the world and they have like little daycares in the restaurant. So
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you can go and have a meal. Your kid can hang out with other kids. Like it's built into the culture.
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And in North America, it's like, I think that, I think we're on the right path. I think we're
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going back to how it should be, but it segregated people for a long time who had children. It's very
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sad. We're building a village and that's what this is really all about. We're inviting people
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to come together and get back to our old ancient ways and working together is critical and helping
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others that are suffering is really important in life. Agreed. Well, thank you very much for
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coming on. God bless you. Thank you.
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