00:05:37.260They are farming out every single one of their spokespeople and allies,
00:05:41.700whether it's ambassadors in countries like Canada or spokespeople elsewhere,
00:05:46.080to try to reposition the blame anywhere but on the Trump administration.
00:05:51.960So on a day like today, when you have new bad inflation numbers domestically in the U.S.,
00:05:57.460I think you see, again, President Trump trying to turn the fire back on Canada
00:06:01.460for its counter tariffs and otherwise having resisted the Trump tariff regime just a few
00:06:06.920days ago. He turned his anger toward Ukraine again to deflect against a domestic economic issue.
00:06:12.840This is what you do when you are seeing the numbers of congressmen and women and senators
00:06:18.940from your party who are looking to lose in states where they would have otherwise held on.
00:06:23.180I think we should just all as Canadians probably not take a lot of this personally because it's
00:06:28.000all about the midterms it's really not about us I can somewhat agree with her on that like a lot
00:06:32.700of his rhetoric sometimes will ramp up or down based on a domestic issue so that should basically
00:06:38.780end the segment right there yeah he says stuff but again the CBC needs everyone to be freaked
00:06:43.680about Trump because if you are not focused on your television set that is talking about Trump
00:06:49.200you might actually look at your relative who just lost their job or somebody else in your family
00:06:55.060who's struggling to make ends meet and you may actually wonder what's Carney doing about any of
00:06:59.640this? Are his policies succeeding or failing? They just want you to focus on the Trump element of it
00:07:04.640all. Tim, I mean, Carleen's talking about the broader political motivation, but does Pete
00:07:08.220Hoekstra have a point when he says, hey, the Reagan ad crossed a line. He talked about
00:07:14.160Melanesia Lee saying at one point that some of these counter tariffs were targeting specific
00:07:18.820U.S. states. Is there something to the American concern that Canadians are getting in their
00:07:23.300business how's this for an answer no uh i mean it's like pete uh hookstra lives if that were the
00:07:30.560case katherine it would be a case of pete hookstra how do we have two people from summa strategies i
00:07:36.540believe the other lady was too why is it that we have strategists who work for lobbying firms or
00:07:42.460other political consulting firms as all of the people on the panel it's just ridiculous that
00:07:48.520this is just considered normal and is just like cynical um how about this as an answer no would
00:07:55.740we put up with it if like because remember the Reagan ad was from Ontario Premier Doug Ford
00:08:01.840he ran this Reagan ad on about trade in the United States that was obviously a shot at Donald Trump
00:08:07.580now you can agree with the ad or you can disagree with the ad even though I don't like Doug Ford I
00:08:11.940can agree with the general message of the ad free trade between Canada the United States is good
00:08:16.280I agree. At the same time, would we put up with it? Because there's many policies that the Americans get right that I think that the Canadian liberal government gets wrong. Would I be okay with it if the Americans were just, you know, let's say a governor like Greg Abbott in Texas, or you get Gianforte in Montana, or some other person, whether it's Democratic, Democrat or Republican?
00:08:43.460would I be okay with that governor running tens of millions of dollars of ads
00:08:47.880in the Canadian market to try and basically persuade people
00:08:52.080on a particular domestic policy and how they should vote?
00:08:56.040Obviously, we would see that as a major violation.
00:08:58.640But there seems to be this strange rules of engagement
00:16:01.480Yes, and people like Tim Powers and many of these other people on the panel,
00:16:05.740sometimes they say reasonable things, but most of the time they're default liberals.
00:16:10.080And it's not just because they themselves are liberals,
00:16:12.220but it's because they also get money to lobby the liberal government,
00:16:16.060and they're not going to criticize them.
00:16:17.800And that's what makes it so incredible walking around this world where people think that they're in the know because they watch David Cochran or Rosemary Barton's show on the CBC or even Vashti Capellos, who I find has honestly gone downhill over the past six months or so in terms of her commentary quality.
00:16:36.080all these people act like they're informed by watching these shows at the same time you're
00:16:41.020literally watching fake commentators who are in fact lobbyists trying to maintain their like good
00:16:48.260relationship with the liberal government by having mild opinions about everything that generally veer
00:16:53.180in the direction of giving prime minister mark carney and his government a big pat on the back
00:16:58.540it's just maddening to like to bump into people like that you guys watching my show do not think
00:17:05.440well, you know, I watched Wyatt Claypool, ergo, I know everything. You understand you're getting
00:17:10.780a biased slice of what's going on in Canadian news. I try and cover things from my perspective,
00:17:17.400things I think are important, but you're under no delusion that you're learning everything by
00:17:21.580watching the show. But people who watch the CBC, despite the fact that the commentary is probably
00:17:26.200more narrow than mine, they think that they're getting this like very healthy, balanced view
00:17:31.420of how things are in Canada, and the most insidious part of all of it is they act like it's purely
00:17:36.520neutral. This is just what, this is just like, you know, good, neutral information, and I'm coming to
00:17:42.300my own conclusions. No, you're not. You're getting filtered reality, and you're convincing yourself
00:17:47.760that somehow this is just how the country is, and you're coming to your own conclusions. No,
00:17:52.540you're very clearly being told what to think, and you don't know it. I had to pause the video there
00:17:59.100because i needed to check if there is a new laura babcock clip for us to talk about and i can very
00:18:06.340very proudly report back to you guys there is a new laura babcock rant about american interference
00:18:12.580in the alberta independence referendum canadians don't mess in america's business if anything we
00:18:18.840yes we do yes we literally do it is interference to be running political ads to the tune of millions
00:18:25.580of dollars in the american market basically trying to compare donald trump to ronald reagan
00:18:31.200you can agree with the point or disagree at the point in the ad but that is interference as direct
00:18:36.160interference in their domestic politics melanie jolie was saying what we're specifically targeting
00:18:42.940our counter tariffs onto products from red states in order to punish them that is obviously domestic
00:18:49.480political interference it's not like trump ever came out and said well because the because people
00:18:54.580in Quebec vote liberal so hard and because people in the Toronto area do, I'm going to be focusing
00:18:58.980all my tariffs on Ontario, on Quebec, on British Columbia, and the Maritimes. Now, technically,
00:19:05.780it's somewhat worked out that way, but it's more of just a fluke because he just hasn't been going
00:19:10.060after resources in Alberta, Saskatchewan, because it wouldn't be worthwhile to him to tariff energy.
00:19:15.420But he doesn't do that. I'm not saying his tariffs are good. I'm saying that we have uniquely been
00:19:21.700attempting to shape our way of handling the trade issue by targeting sort of like the domestic
00:19:29.780political environment of america trying to shape how people vote just try to get along with them
00:19:35.560and have a good life but what we're having to deal with is their constant interference their money0.96
00:19:41.000their threats their garbage their hacking all of it and what do we get for that pete hoekstra come
00:19:46.700out and tell us that we've got to stop interfering in their midterms well my message to pete hoekstra0.95
00:19:51.040is you know what you need to go somewhere far far away somewhere dark like the united states under
00:19:57.400the trump regime get out of oh wow god um oh my oh my goodness laura babcock god i'm with that one
00:20:04.360it's like she just genuinely doesn't know anything her husband works as a producer for the cbc and
00:20:11.320she doesn't even understand the issues she has no clue about the doug ford stuff about all about
00:20:17.640Melanie Jolie's specific targeting of red states even other premiers have done that with a lot of
00:20:23.640their with like with uh with Doug Ford specifically when he started out with the bourbon ban he did
00:20:29.540that to try and go after Kentucky you know they ended up expanding it to all American booze but
00:20:34.940the thing is that that was and they've always been framing it as like an anti-Trump ban in order to
00:20:40.180get people to not vote for Trump now I'm not saying people have to be like neutral and not
00:20:44.500pretend they have a problem with trump on the domestic front my point is that you can't claim
00:20:49.380the americans are interfering in play in things like the alberta independence referendum with
00:20:54.280really vague accusations they're somehow involved and then completely ignore what canada has also1.00
00:21:00.100done it's just hypocrisy it's just stupidity this is why we fail at the trade negotiations0.99
00:21:06.020because we don't seem to care about what the actual record is that's not saying we're wrong0.99
00:21:11.200It's saying that we have a very warped view of what's going on.
00:21:14.980Canada, we are a country of light and of good values, and we're good allies and good neighbors.
00:21:20.280And we want no part of somebody like yourself who's doing this to our country.
00:21:32.420Just having emotionally cathartic rants is covering things comprehensively.
00:21:39.640But this is as far as so many elbows up voters' actual minds go. They are simply here to stand up to the bully that is Trump on the schoolyard and his minion, Pete Hoagstra, because they're trying to hurt us. And we would never hurt them because we're a city on a hill. We are the country of light and they are the country of darkness.
00:21:58.640these people frame politics like children that's not me making a value judgment that it's actually
00:22:06.300the reverse it's saying that life's more complicated let's try and get a trade deal
00:22:11.420that's not saying sign anything that's saying get into the room and stop the cartoonish framing
00:22:17.000of these issues and instead focus on what do we want what do they want and how do we meet in the
00:22:24.080middle the most so that we can be satisfied walking away with what we have, knowing that we
00:22:28.980can maybe renegotiate in the future for the rest of what we want as well. But that's probably too
00:22:34.800much adult talk for these individuals. Anyways, with all that being said, thank you guys for
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00:22:48.700you know i always mess up some of these end points in the videos but you can't go back at this point
00:22:54.120with all that being said thank you guys for watching i'll see you all next time