The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - October 16, 2026


Carney BLOWS IT - Makes Alberta Referendum About Liberals vs America

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00:00:00.000 if you weren't already aware on october 19th the alberta referendums are taking place there are
00:00:07.280 nine questions on the ballot most of them policy questions with one about whether or not you
00:00:12.640 support alberta independence of course we have a bunch of left-wing politicians coming to alberta
00:00:18.880 trying to flex their pro canada muscles to win over conservative voters in the province i really
00:00:25.680 don't think it's going to do anything because once the referendum is over, no one's going to
00:00:30.720 see Mark Carney or people like Nahid Nenshi as being the saviors of Alberta from the forces of
00:00:36.900 separatism because everybody knows it's still just a very niche movement. It'll get 25 to maybe 30%
00:00:44.840 support. I actually think it could get even less than 25%. That isn't trying to dismiss people who
00:00:50.820 believe in independence while i am not an independent supporter i understand there's many
00:00:55.820 there's a lot of merits to the ideas i disagree with some of the arguments i agree with some of
00:01:00.280 the arguments but you have to understand what people like mark carney naheed nenshi the alberta
00:01:06.380 ndp and the federal liberals are trying to do is milk this thing to make them seem like the true
00:01:12.620 patriots of the country they've been smearing people like alberta premier daniel smith as being
00:01:18.000 a secret separatist the entire time, no matter how many times she says that she wants Alberta
00:01:24.800 to stay within Canada. They do not care, because the entire mission this entire time has been to
00:01:31.460 get Danielle Smith. Even from the independent side, people like Mitch Sylvester and Jeff Rath
00:01:38.080 are not even trying to get people out to vote for independence. They are simply trying to get
00:01:43.960 UCPCAs, where they have some supporters on the boards, to vote to have a special general meeting
00:01:51.320 vote on Daniel Smith's leadership at the AGM. No, stop it. The arguments for this are ridiculous.
00:01:59.560 They're acting like she's trying to rig the vote, and actually, secretly, Alberta is mostly a 0.93
00:02:03.800 separatist province, and you just don't know it yet. No, guys, it's not there. If anything,
00:02:08.800 you shouldn't have held the referendum vote because you weren't ready. I'm not trying to
00:02:12.160 put people down who support independence it's not you i'm saying it is the interest groups who have
00:02:17.540 acted very foolishly not all of them again i disagree with the independence argument but i can
00:02:24.160 say that people like keith wilson and cory morgan conduct themselves perfectly fine during this
00:02:29.060 whole thing but now i need to go back to mark carney because he delivered an arena speech
00:02:34.920 yesterday and it had a high attendance rate obviously it's a very controversial issue so
00:02:39.260 every alberta liberal and ndp person in the vicinity showed up to hear the prime minister
00:02:44.240 speak and of course he made the entire thing about america yes he did talk about canada and alberta
00:02:50.140 but he always constantly tied everything back to the americans because this is the only thing mark
00:02:55.760 carney has in his entire political career people hating trump so they vote liberal because if they
00:03:01.020 had to vote for him based on his economic record nobody would show up including with the pacific
00:03:06.740 link pipeline yeah it will add it will create more than 140 000 jobs it will reduce reduce
00:03:18.740 our dependent on the dependence on the united states it's hilarious to see this crowd of federal
00:03:30.740 liberals and provincial NDP voters cheering for a pipeline because he connected it to having less
00:03:37.580 dependence on the United States. You can maybe become a little bit less dependent on the United
00:03:42.560 States. You can never become not dependent. Just as the U.S. is dependent on Canada for many raw
00:03:48.540 resources, they're not going to go and acquire them from Madagascar or from Bangladesh. They're
00:03:53.880 going to get them from their northern neighbor, Canada, just as we get a lot of things from our
00:03:57.580 southern neighbor america but all these people who would have typically been opposing pipelines
00:04:03.260 for most of their lives suddenly they're pro pipeline because you connected it to not liking
00:04:08.540 trump goldfish out there people some people out there are absolute goldfish
00:04:13.960 Oh, oh, oh, careful, careful, they might, reduce, careful, they might think that's election
00:04:39.780 interference the same they're a little touchy down there oh yeah guys the americans are really touchy
00:04:51.940 up here we're not touchy at all elbows up crowd cool as a cucumber doesn't matter what trump says
00:04:57.460 they don't get thrown into a tizzy because he called lake ontario lake america never happened
00:05:03.460 they don't take every trump joke as a serious statement of intent to roll tanks over the border
00:05:09.220 they never do stuff like that and by the way the thing is that the americans pointed out that
00:05:14.580 canadian politicians were going and campaigning with democrats like anthony housefather with
00:05:20.340 debbie wasserman schultz in florida as well as doing things like specifically targeting tariffs
00:05:27.300 on to red states now there's a difference between targeting counter tariffs just generally and it
00:05:32.260 happens to affect a bunch of red states whatever you can't control that but they specifically
00:05:37.460 stated that they were trying to affect red states more than blue states with their tariff response
00:05:43.360 which is obviously a way of putting pressure on typically you know republican voting people and
00:05:49.860 try and get them to flip blue so that they vote for the democrats in the election like that's kind
00:05:55.660 of a little bit of election interference now it's not illegal countries can do whatever they want
00:06:00.160 and also we had doug ford running anti-trump ads in american media markets i don't remember a
00:06:07.280 governor doing that to connect to canada and i'm not trying to put a value judgment on it i'm saying
00:06:13.260 these people put a value of judgment on it they constantly fear monger about america interfering
00:06:18.560 with canada over like a random independence guy like jeff rath you know that guy that ball of fun
00:06:25.420 that he had a meeting with a gop strategist in michigan oh it led to nothing obviously it led
00:06:32.860 to nothing but that was like a scare story in the media but canadian officials can just openly talk
00:06:38.820 about like basically campaign strategy of trying to hurt certain states and help certain other
00:06:42.940 states and that is considered nothing but you know the crowds laugh and goes oh my goodness
00:06:48.900 aren't those americans so sensitive sure i guess go talk to an american they really don't care yeah
00:06:55.700 trump's sensitive too the thing is the canadian elbows up liberal voters are the most sensitive
00:07:02.160 people in the country the most sensitive people in the northern hemisphere they will freak out
00:07:08.560 over anything america does or the ambassador says country where we help each other where we look out
00:07:18.080 for each other and where we stand up for each other and that is compassion yeah that's why
00:07:24.380 we keep mating like nine percent of our population a country a country where you're free to be who
00:07:37.740 you want to be to speak your mind to worship as you choose to live your life as you wish
00:07:44.220 that is true independence that is real sovereignty again i disagree with many independence arguments
00:07:53.340 but where they are correct and where just generally conservative westerners have always
00:07:58.220 been correct is that the federal government with its extremely high taxes and regulations
00:08:02.660 and censorship laws and all this other crap it's not as nearly as free of a country as
00:08:07.960 it could be that's always been their argument oh we have free speech then why are you passing
00:08:12.400 hate speech bills you can you can free to practice whatever religion you want except
00:08:17.880 if you read certain bible verses you could technically go to prison and it's like what
00:08:22.400 are we doing here but the thing is the crowd doesn't know all this stuff because they live
00:08:27.860 in the warm soup that is cbc news coverage and they don't think about the fact they don't actually
00:08:34.380 think any of this stuff through they don't even know this hate speech legislation exists the tv
00:08:38.580 didn't tell them it exists or at the very least they covered it in such a bland oatmeal way that
00:08:43.320 they didn't really absorb that these this might be a serious issue there wasn't you know conservative
00:08:48.100 of MPs interviewed and pastors on television basically telling people this is actually a
00:08:52.860 really big deal and a massive violation of civil liberties that's like waiting to happen because
00:08:58.600 we have changed the definition of what hatred is for hate crimes as simply just being like
00:09:05.540 detestation and vilification. We have removed the need for an actual like underlying crime
00:09:11.700 to then add a hate charge on top of it. You know you didn't beat somebody up and you were shouting
00:09:16.300 slurs you just simply if somebody said something that's you know rude or even said something you
00:09:23.080 just disagree with that you interpret as hateful that could technically now be a crime in and of 0.66
00:09:27.560 itself it's ridiculous uh but another thing here we got to jump over to him again going back to
00:09:33.420 the united states saying that they want to break us so they can own us type rhetoric are high
00:09:38.960 the stakes are high this referendum let's be clear it comes at the worst possible time
00:09:48.720 the world and this is a subtle jab at danielle smith now calgary mayor jeremy farkas also got
00:09:57.560 on stage and was taking sly shots at danielle smith danielle smith has done nothing wrong 0.94
00:10:03.080 throughout this entire thing. She has let a vote get on the ballot because that is what the 1.00
00:10:09.680 signatures said she had to do. Now, some people criticize her say, oh, but she lowered the 1.00
00:10:14.600 signature threshold to get it done. Yes, because the signature threshold was just monumentally too
00:10:20.980 high. Do you guys think it's easy to get 173 or whatever the number is? Like it's over 170.
00:10:27.200 Getting over 170,000 verifiable signatures is very difficult.
00:10:34.120 She didn't make it four.
00:10:36.140 It used to be like 660,000, which would be impossible to get anything on the ballot.
00:10:41.940 Outside of the most obvious thing possible, to do a referendum on where nobody obviously even disagrees on the issue,
00:10:48.220 and the legislature would probably just pass a law about it instantly.
00:10:51.900 On things that are a bit more controversial, it's hard to get that many people to sign something. 0.55
00:10:56.640 but she gets blamed for that. And he's acting like, oh, this referendum's happening at such
00:11:00.620 an inopportune time. Again, sly jab at Danielle Smith acting like, I can't believe she did this
00:11:06.580 to us. After she's been so friendly to Mark Carney and being willing to put up with his
00:11:11.780 very sluggish process for getting a pipeline. Now we can say at least we're starting to move
00:11:17.580 towards one, which is better than anything, you know, better than what happened under Justin
00:11:20.880 Trudeau. But still, you know, she's been pretty gracious about the fact that she still has to
00:11:26.560 wait for this guy's timeline to build a pipeline when she could probably do it in half or less
00:11:31.560 of the time that he's has he has laid out in front of us has become more dangerous and divided
00:11:38.060 there are some outside our borders who are working to break us so they can own us 1.00
00:11:47.060 just say the americans he's such a coward
00:11:52.420 we know we know we know that we can give ourselves far more than anyone else can take away 0.98
00:12:02.600 apparently not jobs or affordable food
00:12:07.460 and we know we know something else we know that oh and by the way if we can give ourselves more
00:12:15.400 the well if we could always give ourselves more than anything they could take away or they could
00:12:19.860 give us whatever the line was there why are we using chinese steel to build the major projects
00:12:25.800 why are we allowing china to dump their steel on in our country and we're using it for our projects
00:12:32.420 when in theory organization companies like stelco wouldn't be laying off any steel workers if their 0.62
00:12:38.380 steel was actually being used for major projects there's a glut on the market steel prices
00:12:42.860 domestically should actually be down because a lot of these firms have enough nowhere to put it
00:12:46.880 because they would ship a lot of it down to the United States.
00:12:49.340 We should be using that now fairly cheap steel
00:12:51.640 in order to build major projects, but we're not.
00:12:54.420 We're using Beijing steel.
00:12:56.500 When we are united, we become even stronger,
00:13:01.540 even fairer, even freer as a country.
00:13:05.580 Oh yeah, when we all collectively band together
00:13:08.840 to pass censorship laws and to fight a trade war
00:13:13.900 that he has no intention of actually trying to end,
00:13:15.880 that's what really makes us stronger when you think about it i just want to jump over to this
00:13:20.980 clip it's from the cbc disconnected from what he's saying but again it's one of those clips that
00:13:25.700 perfectly encapsulates the elbows up mindset in just a single 13 second statement i kind of enjoy
00:13:32.900 the canada's living tariff free in donald trump's head you know how many times does canada usually
00:13:37.660 come up in stump speeches ahead of the midterm so you know canada wanted to be part of the
00:13:41.800 conversation when we are maybe not the way we want to be but you know we're there i kind of
00:13:46.160 we're living terror free in mark carney's head or sorry in donald trump's head okay who cares
00:13:53.580 this literally means absolutely nothing to me how about we actually get terror free trade rather
00:14:00.440 than trying to live terror free in donald trump's head you could say well that's up to him he has
00:14:04.520 to be able to sign the deal but mark carney should be trying to get a deal i'm not saying bend over
00:14:08.500 backwards and sign anything put in front of you, I'm saying at least try. Be at the table like
00:14:14.160 Claudia Scheinbaum, the president of Mexico, is. Now, I have to jump over now to Jeff Rath. He is
00:14:19.700 from the Alberta Prosperity Project. He is the guy. He actually un-endorsed me in the sense that
00:14:25.300 he was never going to endorse me. Me and Jeff do not get along at all because he is of the 0.93
00:14:29.240 independence variety that just attacks Danielle Smith all the time and seems to have no actual
00:14:33.860 plan of making his movement more popular he actually attacked me because i'm going to be
00:14:38.500 running for the ucp nomination for calgary curry and he's been going around not even attempting
00:14:45.220 to win the referendum not even attempting to increase popularity he is just going around
00:14:49.780 attacking uh daniel smith right now you know next time around we'll have a leader uh that believes
00:14:56.180 in independence uh in charge of the ucp another calgary constituency association voted last night
00:15:02.020 for a leadership review of daniel smith's leadership you know we'll see how how it goes
00:15:06.900 when there isn't a premier in office that's rigging the outcome of the referendum so what jeff is
00:15:11.780 doing right now he's not attempting to win votes in the referendum he is going around to mostly
00:15:18.100 either like like areas where there's a lot of more independent support you know more rural ridings
00:15:23.860 fair enough that can happen like you know that that happens a lot of people in rural ridings are
00:15:27.700 rightfully ticked off with the federal government for many reasons. And he's getting those
00:15:32.260 constituency associations to then vote, to have this special vote to try and get Danielle Smith
00:15:38.040 out as the UCP leader. And they just did it last night with the Calgary-Curry Constituency
00:15:44.340 Association, the riding I'm trying to run for the UCP nomination for. And you would think,
00:15:49.280 well, Calgary-Curry's mad at Danielle Smith? That's an NDP-occupied riding. That must mean
00:15:55.040 there's a lot of groundswell against her. No, the problem with these ridings where there's no UCP 0.99
00:16:01.340 MLA in urban centers, and this happens in Edmonton a lot, despite the fact that they are very
00:16:06.020 NDP heavy ridings and the UCP doesn't really stand a chance in many of these more, you know,
00:16:10.840 downtown-ish Edmonton ridings, is that a bunch of independence people get on the boards and they
00:16:14.800 start trying to make them outposts for independent support where really none exists. I'm sorry,
00:16:20.620 I'm not trying to beat up on anyone for being pro-independence. I have a lot of people who
00:16:24.560 are pro-independence wanting to vote for me in the curry nomination they're just not zealots like
00:16:29.880 jeff rath where if you slightly disagree with them they get mad they understand where i stand i
00:16:33.860 understand where they stand we respect each other that's fine but you get the independence people
00:16:38.660 who end up becoming zealots who get on the constituency associations and just consistently
00:16:43.220 vote for this particular hobbyist agenda and by the way they're not the people going up door
00:16:49.620 knocking for the cause they don't do anything they sit around just voting for it telling danielle
00:16:53.540 Smith, she should be pro-independence. It's like, okay, why should the premier jump on a movement
00:16:58.440 that could possibly get like only 20% of the vote on the referendum? She should show up and she 0.99
00:17:05.340 should put tack her entire career to something she doesn't even believe in and is a minority 0.99
00:17:12.620 position in the province as well as in the UCP party. No, she's not going to do that. That is
00:17:18.840 silly. They say like, oh, well, we can get a lot of independence people out for AGMs. I'm like, yes, 0.96
00:17:23.540 because they are hyper passionate about this particular issue fair enough they're allowed to
00:17:28.300 be but that doesn't actually mean that that's the majority opinion just because you buy a membership
00:17:32.540 and show up to the agm there's a lot of people who you know they have issues they care about they
00:17:36.860 just don't care about them so passionately they get directly involved in party politics all the
00:17:41.120 time but jeff is now trying to effectively not only disrupt his own referendum that he apparently
00:17:47.980 cares about not trying to get any new votes on the independence referendum he's now also trying
00:17:53.420 to disrupt the next provincial election by trying to force danielle smith into a drag out brawl
00:17:59.840 over her leadership of the party because she simply will not do everything he wants she doesn't want
00:18:06.580 to do what he wants she just wants to do what albertans want and i'm not saying that in an
00:18:10.740 overly idealistic way that danielle smith only cares what albertans want because i always hate
00:18:15.220 when politicians always speak in that sort of way that's not my point though i'm saying that 0.95
00:18:19.160 she's trying to hit what the mainstream of alberta wants sometimes she'll push on a more controversial
00:18:25.880 issue that she really cares about she thinks that's a good idea but if something's not popular 0.90
00:18:30.840 and she doesn't exactly believe in it why would she waste her political capital on it 0.85
00:18:36.120 they they they're going to claim well if she was a true independent supporter she could have been 0.66
00:18:39.960 pushing for this for a year and independent support would have been better okay maybe it
00:18:44.200 have been 35 still not even anywhere close to actually winning so what are we talking about
00:18:50.040 here if anything that would just sink her own popularity but anyways that should be enough for
00:18:55.960 today man so we have all the the ndp leader naheed nenshi i didn't bring him up in this video uh but
00:19:02.760 like like people like nenshi and mark carney and other people around jason kenny who is supposedly
00:19:09.480 conservative, but he's still gunning for Pierre Polyev's job. All these people have united around
00:19:14.320 using the independence referendum as a stump to push their own sort of theory of politics.
00:19:20.900 They don't even care about the question. Mark Carney wants to push anti-American politics.
00:19:25.200 Nenshi wants to push anti-Daniel Smith politics. Jason Kenney wants to push anti-Polyev politics.
00:19:30.500 None of this has to do with independence in any way. And I hope people in the independence movement
00:19:35.400 realize that it's not that the entire thing has become basically an easy prop for the left to use
00:19:44.280 in order to artificially boost their own approval rating without having to talk about their rat 0.67
00:19:49.760 poison type uh like policies they're the ntp's policies in alberta pull like rat poison so they
00:19:58.020 want to talk about opposing independence instead this has been a big boon to nenshi and once it's
00:20:03.980 gone over the next year, I really hope that the UCP is going to be able to start recovering their
00:20:08.880 narrative as the referendum fades into the background. People can say, well, you know,
00:20:13.420 well, if the independence doesn't go through, I'm not voting UCP. Why? Why would you do that?
00:20:20.140 Because it's not like the UCP has not been slagging you. The UCP has not been like wishing
00:20:25.720 you, wishing death upon you in any way. They've been doing a good job in government. And there
00:20:31.660 just happens to be an issue that you care passionately about that just didn't have enough
00:20:35.040 support to be widely popular enough for a party to back. Okay, so why would we then throw them out
00:20:40.880 and put in the NDP who are hyper-anti-independents and also have terrible policies on everything from
00:20:47.760 social to economic issues? It just doesn't make any sense to me. Anyways, so with all that being
00:20:53.920 said, thank you guys for watching. Make sure to like, share, subscribe, leave a comment, and I'll
00:20:58.940 see you guys all next time.