00:00:34.120He just kind of summarizes everything that has happened up to this point.
00:00:38.540And later on in the statement, he says,
00:00:41.100Canada believes in the benefits of free and fair trade,
00:00:44.160as evidenced by our new government signing more than 20 new economic and security partnerships.
00:00:49.420This trade dispute has raised costs for families, particularly in the U.S.
00:00:53.880Canada stands ready to engage intensively to address outstanding issues with the U.S. to the mutual benefit of our citizens.
00:01:03.100Okay, good. Why haven't we been doing any trade negotiating up to this point?
00:01:08.440They'll say that they have been at the table, but being at the table and actually dealing with the dispute is completely different.
00:01:17.160Notice how President Donald Trump did not choose to tariff the Mexicans today
00:01:22.320because President Claudia Sheinbaum knows how to play hardball.0.90
00:01:26.740If Trump goes at her, she'll come back at him twice as hard,1.00
00:01:31.320and they'll actually both mutually make concessions to try and come to an agreement
00:01:35.780where they're both at least somewhat satisfied.
00:01:38.960Donald Trump keeps kicking Canada not because he hates us.
00:01:42.780He is doing it because Mark Carney is like a broken vending machine.0.70
00:01:46.560that every time you kick it you get a free soda so of course trump is going to keep kicking it
00:01:51.920carney keeps giving him concessions to make him go away carney keeps talking about how he wants to
00:01:57.680he wants a comprehensive trade agreement he doesn't want a bunch of small agreements so he's
00:02:02.800been pushing for a comprehensive one well the mexicans are getting that and they're engaging
00:02:08.640directly with trump and for some reason we keep making the excuse that we're not engaging directly
00:02:13.440or we're not taking the trade talks very seriously because we're waiting for a for a comprehensive
00:02:18.400plan it's like well okay good but why since you know a year ago have you just been making small
00:02:26.600concessions here and there and not including them in a comprehensive plan he's the one who keeps
00:02:32.820making small deals on the digital services tax on the tripling of the streaming tax on other tariffs
00:02:39.060we had on the United States that were not reciprocal previously. We also backed off on
00:02:44.960the Gordie Howe Bridge opening and gave them a 50-50 net revenue share in order to actually
00:02:49.860get it to open. All these things could have been rolled forward into saying, you know what, okay,
00:02:55.280maybe we will make those concessions to you on all those issues. Many of those things I don't even
00:02:58.900exactly like, just as I don't like supply management. How about we package all that
00:03:02.740together and say, hey, you have about five or six small to moderate concessions that will make to
00:03:08.080you and we want these few things for you and let's get back to zero tariffs. I'd also throw in the
00:03:13.680China deal. I would burn the China deal in favor of a better deal with the United States. Then that
00:03:19.040would actually be kind of political genius by Carney if he only signed the China deal to then
00:03:23.820use it to trade up to a better deal with the Americans. But that's not what he's doing. He in
00:03:27.900fact likes his China deal. That's the funny thing. He refuses to touch certain things to use as
00:03:34.480concessions, but then he keeps making concessions on other things for nothing in return. It's
00:03:39.100absolutely maddening to watch. But now I want to take you to his press conference today where he
00:03:44.080was talking to reporters about what he's willing to give up here, what his actual strategy is,
00:03:49.620and what you'll notice is he continues to say nothing. But before we get into that, I just want
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00:04:45.640Anyways, so let's get back to Mark Carney trying to seem like he's in control here.
00:04:51.520Prime Minister, were you caught off guard? You recently made concessions in regards to the Gordie Howe Bridge, you rolled back the Digital Services Act, the Online Streaming Act. Are you going to make more concessions in order to get the Americans to the table?
00:05:08.560Well, we're at the table. We'll be having those more intense discussions. And what the issue has been for us has been a comprehensive agreement.
00:05:21.520We understand the U.S. approach to strategic sectors, what they call strategic sectors.
00:05:27.100They are strategic sectors, but under their definition, 232 definitions, that's aluminum, that's forest products, that's steel, that's automobiles, pharmaceuticals, copper, others.
00:05:37.900But those first four being the most important for the Canadian economy.
00:05:42.000And that we don't want a partial agreement.
00:05:45.560We want something that addresses those sectors as well so that there's a viable approach going forward.
00:05:51.960In our view, in the view of Madame Scheinbaum and the Mexican authorities, there are solutions that evolve Kuzma so that those sectors are globally competitive to the benefit of workers.
00:06:06.900Of course, we're working for workers in Canada, first and foremost, but also workers across the other two economies.
00:06:12.060But he's not working for workers here, because he refuses to actually sign any agreement. He keeps excusing and saying, I want a comprehensive one. I don't want partial agreements. A partial agreement would be better than nothing right now. I wouldn't even mind getting a partial agreement, then getting another partial agreement on another subject, and then you can kind of cobble them all together into one package later.
00:06:34.360But again, he keeps basically letting perfection be the enemy of good here. And you can't get perfection. When two people are negotiating, someone's not just going to get everything that they want, and the other side's not going to get anything that they want.
00:06:47.720He was even asked in this press conference about the booze tariffs that a bunch of the provinces have in effect in places like Ontario, Manitoba, and British Columbia, if he supports it or not. And he couldn't even commit to whether he supports it or not. He just said that was their decision.
00:07:04.360And I thought the booze tariffs, the taking American booze off the shelves was always kind of a dumb idea.
00:07:12.400You know, you can use that as a certain aspect of hardball.
00:07:16.300And if you were going to use that to play hardball, saying, hey, we'll put it back on the shelves if you do this, that would be something.
00:07:21.600But every time we do stuff like this, it's like to thumb our nose generally at the Americans without actually demanding something in return.
00:07:27.840That's the problem. Gloria Scheinbaum, the president of Mexico, plays hardball.1.00
00:07:32.540She wants this and she drives for it. And there are certain things that she maybe is willing to give up, but she makes it very clear that she's only going to give it up if they give her this or that. That is how she's been doing it. Carney talks abstractly. He's vague. He doesn't really commit to going hard after the U.S. to try and pressure them to the table because he doesn't even know what to do when he gets to the table.1.00
00:07:55.400We are at the table, but we're not actually negotiating. That's why he's now only talking
00:08:01.480about intensifying discussions at this exact moment. It's so weak, what we're doing. It took
00:08:08.740Trump, like genuinely, I don't like the tariffs, but from Trump's perspective, probably, he's saying
00:08:14.300this is the only way I can get Mark Carney to even take the trade talk seriously. He's just
00:08:18.840threatening him further, or he just sits there like a bump on the log because he's too scared
00:08:22.960to talk to me. Now I want to get to the press conference that Ontario Premier Doug Ford gave.
00:08:28.020Now, I don't really agree what he says here, but I at least can sort of strategically see that he's
00:08:33.460more competent on this issue than Mark Carney. A lot of this is kind of posturing and trying to
00:08:39.840sound tough against Trump, and it's probably good for his approval ratings and whatnot.
00:08:43.780But at the very least, I'll give him, at least he somewhat signals the idea is that the way that you
00:08:49.280get to a deal, and he says he wants to get to a deal, is by basically matching their energy,
00:08:56.120their intensity. Now, I would actually say if Canada wants to put pressure on the Americans,
00:09:00.720you don't just put in place matching tariffs. You say, I'm going to put in 60% tariff on you. I'm
00:09:07.680going to go even harder and then put the pressure on you because you've got midterm elections this
00:09:11.860year. But Doug Forges basically says we should do reciprocal tariffs. It's like, Doug, they can
00:09:17.020handle the reciprocal tariffs better than we can. They have a better domestic economy and they're
00:09:21.060less reliant on us. So every time we try and do something to hurt them, other than hitting the
00:09:26.640bourbon industry in Kentucky, we're not really hitting them in any significant way that will
00:09:32.220get them to be more likely to sign a deal than us eventually caving. So they're willing to kind
00:09:38.600of handle the pressure we put against them because they know they can handle it, while we can't
00:09:42.360handle the current pressure they're putting against us. And yet we're trying to play the
00:09:45.820long game when we don't have we don't have the ability to do that i always say we we can't keep
00:09:51.040rolling over for president trump we can't back down we need a full team canada approach everything
00:09:58.420is on the table but ontario can't do it alone we we need the support we need a plan from the prime
00:10:04.640minister to come in and if these talks fail in 29 days we need to hit them back as hard as we can
00:10:14.440I'm tired of the bully trying to take our lunch money all the time.
00:10:18.200We always seem to be on our back heels.
00:10:20.440We need to be on the offense, not constantly on the defense with President Trump.
00:10:25.440We need to stand up to the bully, and we need to hit him tariff to tariff all the way across the board.
00:10:32.760And that's my message to the Prime Minister.
00:10:37.360Now, I do find it quite telling that in his statement, and I watched the whole thing, he over and over again talks about needing a deal and we need a plan, which implies that he knows that Prime Minister Carney doesn't have a plan, but he's feeling more pressure than probably Premier David Eby is, who we're about to get to in a second here, because the manufacturing sector in Ontario has been losing tens of thousands of jobs over time.
00:11:04.080And so he is under far more pressure to get a deal signed than David Eby, who has not been hit as hard.
00:11:11.340And what you'll see here is that David Eby's attitude is very much just trying to milk the situation for anti-American votes in British Columbia,0.91
00:11:19.020because he basically acts like there's no, you know, if the Americans don't like us, then, you know, screw them.
00:11:24.180And we have we don't want anything to do with them anymore.
00:11:27.000I'm not sure how the federal government reaches an agreement with an administration that, as far as I can tell, isn't talking to them.
00:11:32.380I don't see that the Americans have been engaging with Canada in trade conversations in any meaningful way.
00:11:39.020Let's be very clear. He is lying here. David Eby is lying.
00:11:43.040There's a reason why the most trade information that Canadians have gotten when it comes to where the trade talks are come from Americans.
00:11:50.040It comes from Ambassador Pete Hoekstra. It comes from Jameson Greer, the U.S. trade representative.
00:11:55.740It comes from other people in American media because our side will not tell anyone where we're at.
00:12:02.380Dominic LeBlanc won't, Prime Minister Mark Carney won't, nobody else who's engaged in
00:12:06.960our, who is in the foreign affairs department or specifically on the trade team has said anything.
00:12:12.120We even had Aaron O'Toole, the former conservative leader, not a very good one, but he is on the
00:12:18.160committee or the council giving Mark Carney advice on trade. And they've been saying, well,
00:12:24.260if you want to get to an agreement, maybe you got to shred your China deal. Maybe you're going to
00:12:28.320have to make a concession on something like supply management, but then maybe you can get to zero
00:12:32.120tariffs on everything else and that would be great and even i very rarely agree with with
00:12:37.720erin o'toole but he sounded frustrated like carney's been like stalling because he's too scared
00:12:44.520politically he doesn't have the political courage to give up something like supply management because
00:12:48.680the liberals rely too much on supply management votes in eastern canada to get elected and so
00:12:54.440we're effectively stalled out for a very particular political interest that the liberals are you know
00:13:00.280on allies with uh and what we have here with david eby is he's he's fibbing he's just lying
00:13:07.080because he knows a lot of anti-american voters will be happy he's saying anti-american things
00:13:11.080and that's the only way that he can probably try and boost back up his popularity is by being the
00:13:15.720guy to say well they don't want to trade with us well then what's even the point they're not
00:13:19.960even engaging with us um and uh and so if the americans come to the table to have a true
00:13:25.560discussion i think that the federal government should absolutely be there the prime minister
00:21:24.080Datergum, who says Donald Trump is violating Kuzma and reneging again on trade deals.
00:21:29.660Tell us again, this is on Carney, though. Tell us again how you side with Trump and this blatant
00:21:35.400disregard for the very deal he negotiated and signed. I'm sorry, but Canada actually last year
00:21:41.560was the country that for months had tariffs on goods that were actually covered under Kuzma.
00:21:47.020We actually violated the agreement first. Now, I'm not saying that I'm saying that they should
00:21:51.480be allowed to do it because we did it. But this is on Carney. This is on Carney, though, because
00:21:56.460he has set the precedent that every time this happens, he gives something up. Now, I want to
00:22:01.280go to the response that Shavloy Majumdar and some of the conservative ministers, the minister
00:22:07.340critics, had come out with. I thought their take on all this was actually quite good, the way that
00:22:12.280they're handling the whole thing. So in just a second here, I'm going to pull this up. My goodness,
00:22:18.460x has been annoying me so much recently every time i try and pull up clips now everything auto plays
00:22:23.660as i scroll by with noise and it's maddening because it's just horrible to listen to as i'm
00:22:29.980trying to pull things up it'll even sometimes play clips over other clips that i don't even have on
00:22:34.460screen okay so here we have the fonts from from the conservatives here uh or no i need to pull
00:22:48.060up in just a second here that wasn't the right one in one second i'll have it up okay i had to
00:22:52.940pause there but i did find the statement so here is the statement that was posted by chivalry majumdar
00:22:58.780the conservative critic for u.s canada relations but this was in conjunction with other ministers
00:23:05.340like eric duncan and stephanie cousy and others but i just want to jump down a little bit later in
00:23:12.220to their statement here because they start off on the right tone saying hey the tariffs are
00:23:16.940unacceptable. What else are they going to say? Obviously, they're not going to support the
00:23:21.320tariffs here. But I think that they take a turn in their statement a little bit later on. And this
00:23:26.680is the exact right position the conservatives should be taking. Because I think previously,
00:23:31.240the conservatives were too conciliatory to the Kearney liberals. Oh, well, we need to rally
00:23:36.940around the liberal government because it would seem too pro-American of us if we didn't. It's
00:23:41.460But if they suck, if they're not doing their jobs properly, you absolutely are justified in not backing their play when their play is not working.
00:23:51.660So here in their statement, Chavloy and the other critics say, 14 months ago, Prime Minister Mark Carney described the breakdown in our relationship with the United States as the worst economic crisis since the Second World War.
00:24:03.960He was right. Canada is in a major crisis, and despite making promises to Canadians to secure a deal, the Liberals are failing to meet the moment with the urgency it deserves. Liberals have failed to explain anything to Canadians, obscuring transparency and relying on ad hominem attacks on the opposition.
00:24:20.660President Trump is wrong to target Canadian workers and must reverse these tariffs immediately.
00:24:24.820And Mark Carney was wrong to surrender Canada's leverage for over a year and a half without actually working to secure the deal he promised.
00:24:31.240And then it says, you know, conservatives will fight for workers and a strong economy.
00:24:34.060But that's what the conservatives need to keep pressing on, is that Carney keeps making concessions for nothing.
00:24:41.960We have zero leverage. That is why Trump is going after us this way.
00:24:45.720So if you're angry at Trump, you should be doubly mad at Mark Carney for effectively incentivizing the behavior that's been going on that pretty much every other world leader has been able to stave off by not being cowards, by actually coming out of their trenches and engaging directly and earning Trump's respect.
00:25:03.380Not that his respect is the thing that we should value most, and we should sit around, like, sitting up late at night, just marveling at how he likes us.