The National Telegraph - Wyatt Claypool - July 17, 2026


Carney LOSING IT on Bridge Issue - Blames USA for Forest Fires!


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The Gordie Howe Bridge deal is a disaster for Canada, but it's a good deal for the U.S. It's a bad deal for Canada because it gives the Americans more control over the toll revenue they collect on the bridge and splits it 50/50 with Canada.

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00:00:00.000 This Gordie Howe bridge issue has become such a massive loser for Prime Minister Mark Carney
00:00:06.680 and the Liberals. You can tell that Carney knows he's losing on this issue based on how he responds
00:00:12.600 to reporters and the fact that the Liberals have still not released the details of the deal. They
00:00:19.280 know it makes them look bad, they know their elbows up base could turn on them, and it's not
00:00:24.520 exactly like what he's doing is winning us any respect with Trump and the Americans. In fact,
00:00:30.000 they probably respect us less after this Gordie Howe bridge deal.
00:00:34.400 Check out the way that Mark Carney responds to this reporter
00:00:37.360 asking a question about what the deal actually says.
00:00:41.180 To get things moved.
00:00:43.000 Are you able to provide more information about the deal?
00:00:45.980 Some sources are from to us and to Bloomberg and Reuters are saying
00:00:49.000 it's a 50% split, I guess, once the sharing starts happening.
00:00:52.460 And if this is a Canadian project, why did you have to start giving?
00:00:56.960 Why did you decide to start giving some of the revenue away?
00:01:00.580 The first thing is you quoted the overall amount of the capital investment of the project around six and a half billion dollars.
00:01:08.640 What we're talking about is very modest relative to the size of that.
00:01:12.760 That makes it worse.
00:01:14.980 Mark Carney keeps acting like, well, the amount of revenue that we're splitting with the Americans isn't that much.
00:01:20.300 So it's no big deal.
00:01:22.060 It is a big deal.
00:01:23.420 It actually makes it more of a big deal that the small amount of toll revenues that we were going
00:01:29.140 to get if we collected 100% of them is now going to be split with the Americans. Yes, we get some
00:01:35.040 money for the bridge's interest, we get some money for maintenance, but then we have to split the
00:01:39.980 rest of it 50-50, which means the amount of time it is going to have to take to pay off the bridge
00:01:45.480 has been extended exponentially. It was originally going to take like 50 years for the bridge to pay
00:01:52.040 for itself with toll money. Now it's going to be like 80, 90 years, maybe even longer
00:01:58.020 because Mark Carney cannot negotiate with Trump. He sucks at this, but let's get back to his 0.96
00:02:04.620 response here. That's the first thing just to make sense. The second is that, because I'm going to 0.99
00:02:12.040 repeat myself, but I think it's an important point that it's aligned, the incentives are aligned
00:02:16.420 here because the reinvestment in regional economic development on the american side of the border by
00:02:22.900 the way the the funds that go to the us go to a michigan economic development fund this isn't
00:02:29.940 going to some fund that canada also controls and if we want to invest in the like in the windsor
00:02:36.180 side of the border then that's okay that's not happening that is not happening this money is
00:02:41.380 going to the americans and he is celebrating giving them money for something that will not
00:02:45.940 affect us and if it does affect us it will have a very small kind of uh you know incidental impact
00:02:52.100 because if they have to economically develop on their side of the border maybe it will attract
00:02:57.060 more investment going both ways i don't know about that but this is not a victory
00:03:02.980 in regional economic development on the michigan side mainly the michigan side that's obviously
00:03:08.100 good for michigan but it's also good uh for canada because it's going to reinforce the traffic so we
00:03:13.060 see that? Minorly. Minorly. A little bit of economic development on the Michigan side of
00:03:18.800 the border is not going to spur lots of more exports from Canada because the bridge is not
00:03:25.080 just about Michigan. It's about just shipping into the U.S. overall. I don't think any company
00:03:30.680 in Canada is more likely to be sending resources into the state of Michigan or America because
00:03:37.160 there was a small investment in Michigan from an economic investment fund. It's just, we got
00:03:44.120 fleeced because he sucks at negotiating. That is what is going on here. But he keeps trying to 0.98
00:03:49.300 sell this with different excuses. Oh, it's a modest amount of money. Oh, well, the money will
00:03:54.140 get invested in an economic development fund, and that will have some tangential effect on Canada.
00:03:59.380 So it's actually a good thing when you think about it. The incentive alignment is a reasonable
00:04:03.820 discussion. It's a good deal, good deal for Canada, good for the U.S., and it's great
00:04:08.060 for both countries to have this bridge open, and we're looking forward to, you know.
00:04:11.600 Is it 50%?
00:04:13.760 And then the fall got cut off there at 50%, it's a good deal for Canada? This isn't a good deal
00:04:20.500 for Canada. The original deal where we got 100% of the tolls, that was the good deal,
00:04:25.440 or was that the amazing deal, and now we've dropped down to the good deal level?
00:04:29.580 getting the bridge open was default that was standard but now we are celebrating giving away
00:04:38.560 things to get back to standard now I want to move on to another answer he gave during that press
00:04:44.520 conference about the climate some reporters started tying all of the fires that are going on
00:04:51.080 in central Canada to the MOU that he signed with Danielle Smith and I find his defense 0.95
00:04:56.980 of the MOU to be pathetic. It demonstrates how little he really believes in pipeline development 0.71
00:05:04.100 based on how he answers this reporter when he should shut them down and say they're absolutely
00:05:08.700 wrong to somehow tie forest fires from bad forest management to a pipeline from Alberta to the West
00:05:16.420 Coast where there are not fires. Jessica Singer with CBC. Much of central Canada is dealing with
00:05:23.240 wildfires and smoke pollution as we feel very much here in london this is just days after you
00:05:29.160 announced plans for a new oil pipeline what do you say to canadians who believe these current
00:05:34.120 climate conditions are a sign we should lean into our climate targets rather than drop some of them
00:05:40.280 well first off i absolutely agree um and it's not leaning it's i'll use your phrase what do you
00:05:47.240 agree with there the the ridiculous implication that somehow signing an mou is tied to forest fires
00:05:54.280 in central canada that makes no sense whatsoever it reduces emissions to have the pipeline
00:06:00.760 not only in terms of transporting oil and gas but also being able to sell those products overseas
00:06:08.120 where they often are using coal or even wood in some cases for their energy it would massively
00:06:13.960 offset emissions if you care about emissions as a voter. But what he's saying, he agrees we should
00:06:20.820 be leaning more into our climate plans. Now, he's going to try and say that, no, no, no, actually,
00:06:25.680 his MOU is all about the climate. And that's the problem, is what he ends up highlighting that he
00:06:31.080 likes so much about the MOU has nothing to do with oil and gas. Leaning in, but the way the
00:06:36.680 government views leaning in is actually putting the investment in the ground that's going to
00:06:40.960 achieve those climate targets um we relied too much on targets uh laws um that weren't driving
00:06:51.680 the actual investment that's necessary to reduce emissions so we shifted our focus um shifted our
00:06:58.160 focus to get that investment driven core to that is the electricity strategy which we're currently
00:07:04.160 consulting on doubling the scale of our uh grid over the course of the next couple of decades
00:07:09.520 a grid that's almost 85 percent clean power the intention is to maintain that do that
00:07:14.720 and do that in a way and everybody in this room would would be living through uh the challenges
00:07:21.120 and affordability in various ways so we need to do it in a way that is also preserves affordability
00:07:27.440 for canadians we have amongst the lowest electricity costs in the world we want to keep those
00:07:33.120 and so a climate strategy that looks to affordability in the short term and builds
00:07:39.560 those emission reductions with major investments and what you see is the investments or the major
00:07:46.200 projects that we're helping to catalyze are low carbon so that new oil pipeline as a precondition
00:07:53.300 a precondition of that new oil pipeline is the pathways project okay which removes is the
00:07:59.520 equivalent of removing 90 percent of the vehicles on Alberta roads. As another precondition is a
00:08:04.620 75 percent reduction in methane in Alberta. As another precondition is a carbon market that
00:08:11.500 actually works, just isn't a carbon market in name. And I will underscore, and this is, if you
00:08:16.140 want one illustration of the difference in our approach, is that theoretically the carbon price
00:08:24.080 is over $100 right now. But the carbon price in the actual markets has fell to about $20.
00:08:31.680 So the effective, the gap between what was the objectives, what was said, what was legislative.
00:08:38.420 Notice how he has not once said, hey, we think it's a good idea to export oil and gas products
00:08:44.380 from Alberta to parts of the world where they use far higher emission forms of energy. That would
00:08:51.300 be a good point. Now, I don't really even care about that necessarily. I just want people to
00:08:55.980 get cheap energy. I want our economy to grow. I want the free market to reign here. But he couldn't
00:09:01.340 even highlight that as the reason why the pipeline is good. The pipeline is good in his mind because
00:09:08.100 he got the pathway projects invested in, which is going to be like a $20 billion carbon capture
00:09:13.160 project or series of projects. We are going to have the methane reductions. We're going to have
00:09:20.100 the oil and gas through carbon credit schemes and other sorts of things. Be clean oil and gas.
00:09:25.520 Guys, people do not want low carbon LNG and oil and gas. They want cheap. He is basically
00:09:33.760 restricting the ability for the project to succeed from the very beginning. Alberta Premier
00:09:40.740 Daniel Smith probably just wants to get anything she can get. If they are willing to at least start
00:09:46.020 moving towards building a pipeline, she'll sign on to all this stuff. Now, we will see if that pans
00:09:52.080 out or not. I am highly skeptical because Mark Carney has always been anti-pipeline, at least
00:09:58.000 anti-pipeline in Canada. And I think what he's doing is he knows he doesn't actually ever have
00:10:02.860 to build the thing in order to at least first force Danielle Smith into higher industrial
00:10:09.020 carbon prices, into the Pathways project, into the methane reductions. He can get her to start 0.99
00:10:15.400 doing all that, well, he never actually has to lay down a single meter of pipeline into the ground.
00:10:22.060 That is the thing I am concerned by here. And again, what the heck is he talking about to this
00:10:27.100 reporter? There is nothing there that actually says anything pro oil and gas about a supposed
00:10:32.880 oil and gas pipeline that he believes in, because he doesn't believe in it. Anyways, with that video
00:10:39.500 out of the way, I actually just quickly want to go over to a French question that ended up
00:10:45.160 happening bear with me you are going to have to listen to translators here but he by this is one
00:10:50.540 of the most delusional things I've ever heard coming from a reporter and Mark Carney agrees with
00:10:56.720 it. Radio Canada? Mr. Carney what impression do you get from the fact that Ontario is burning
00:11:10.520 today whereas or as canada is seems to be forgetting uh the the climate climate objectives
00:11:18.040 i can repeat mr candy what do you feel when you see that northern ontario is burning today
00:11:25.480 whereas canada is getting away from its climate climate targets
00:11:31.880 well our government has reaped the the benefits or the facts coming from the previous government
00:11:41.480 this is not the result of my action as head of government it is the result of the previous
00:11:46.600 government's actions so we now have important targets we have rules we have sometimes we have
00:11:56.120 to have heated discussions with the provinces. So not enough agreement on the policy to follow
00:12:06.600 regarding the greenhouse gas. So we need to put the emphasis on investment in order to fight GHG.
00:12:14.920 And regarding the agreement with Alberta, we have the Pathways project, which is the most ambitious
00:12:23.160 worldwide project of stocking of carbon carbon stock and so we have also an important reduction
00:12:34.260 of 75 percent of methane methane in Alberta and also we have improved the carbon pricing market
00:12:45.920 sorry that he is repeating here a bit but I do want to get to what he says towards the end of
00:12:51.420 the answer. And this we hope to be able to implement throughout Canada. And to conclude,
00:12:58.780 and then I'll give you back the floor, but we have doubled down and we have also divided the
00:13:11.000 concept, the doubling of clean electricity during the next decade. And this is what our most
00:13:19.300 important investment this is our most important action in order to reduce thg
00:13:26.820 so what do you tell elected people in america who ask canada to do more
00:13:33.380 you know in order for the the americans who ask canadians to do more in order not to receive the
00:13:39.940 smoke from ours forest fires well each of us has his own responsibilities at the moment we are
00:13:50.100 emphasizing investment in clean energy but in in the us there are modes of production which are
00:13:59.460 working against against clean energy and canada is pursuing their efforts at the on world scale
00:14:12.900 whereas the united states are reducing their their footprint worldwide so this this fighting climate
00:14:22.020 change is the did you hear what he just did there i know that was a long segment by translator
00:14:29.460 But when asked about what duty Canada may have to the United States because of all of the smoke that is, you know, obviously going over the border into places like New York,
00:14:39.840 he's saying, well, you know, the Americans haven't been investing as much in fighting climate change as we have.
00:14:46.320 They're not developing into modes of production like we are to, you know, fight climate change and have more electric powered things and whatnot and all of our clean fuel standards.
00:14:57.320 guys is he blaming the united states for bad canadian forest management this is all about bad
00:15:05.520 forest management it's like why you get massive wildfires in places like california
00:15:10.520 no forest management they just let deadwood build up and then massive forest fires break out
00:15:16.320 what are we talking about but that is the ideology of mark carney that the investment dollars equal
00:15:23.340 less or more climate change. So the person says, well, the two reporters are basically saying,
00:15:28.120 well, you're walking away from your targets. He says, why? I don't care as much about targets.
00:15:32.140 I care about investment. And then acting like climate change is some sort of like meter that
00:15:36.360 you feed quarters into. And we've been feeding a lot of quarters into, and that will eventually
00:15:41.180 somehow make this less. And the fact that our plan hasn't been working, it's because those
00:15:44.640 dirty Americans who are currently pushing smoke into their territory because of our bad force 1.00
00:15:49.940 management. They're really the ones, when you think about it, who are responsible for all this 1.00
00:15:54.720 because they haven't been paying the climate tax like we have. I don't believe this guy wants to
00:16:00.520 build a pipeline. Just his rhetoric, just his attitude when asked questions around climate
00:16:05.380 change. He kind of sounds like he was back when he advocated against pipelines. He has the same
00:16:10.980 environmental lens he puts on these issues. I don't think this guy actually sincerely wants to
00:16:16.520 get a pipeline built. But anyways, that should be it for the rest of this video, guys. I just want
00:16:21.980 to let you know, as I've been mentioning in other videos, I'm exploring an opportunity to run for
00:16:27.300 the UCP in Alberta for the provincial election in the riding of Calgary Curry. Like I have in
00:16:33.780 past videos, I'm just going to show you guys the boundaries just in case you're curious about where
00:16:37.380 this is. Last video, I actually had two people sign up who were exactly in the riding, and I
00:16:42.440 end up giving people a call who are in the area just letting them know about what's going on and
00:16:47.100 whatnot but I'm effectively going to be trying to take on a fairly orange district in Alberta
00:16:55.680 because if I run for something I don't want it to be some easy riding and I'm just trying to show
00:17:00.540 up to fill space or whatever it's this riding in southwest Calgary kind of start stops at Sarsi
00:17:07.080 trail goes until around kind of uh right before the downtown starts kind of around senalta or so
00:17:14.720 so if you you happen to live in this area consider buying a membership for the ucp signing up on my
00:17:21.380 website i'll give you a call let you know what's going on and uh you know hopefully you can help
00:17:25.640 me guys take out an ndp incumbent i've heard the boundaries may change for the riding and it might
00:17:31.220 move west a little bit which will make it much more winnable and the lady who is currently the 1.00
00:17:36.420 NDP MLA around here is absolutely delusional. Janet Aramanco, who opposes coal mining, 0.98
00:17:43.920 who opposes parental rights, who opposes charter schools, who opposes getting rid of drug sites.
00:17:49.580 In fact, she was a drug site advocate before she became an MLA. It'd be fun to take her out
00:17:55.460 and, you know, have you guys help me do that. Anyways, so if you guys want to check out my
00:18:00.440 website, I have it pinned at the top, the comments below. And with all that being said,
00:18:04.540 I will see you guys all next time.