00:08:11And now you're looking at most likely getting a Democrat governor.
00:08:15So did we at NXR Studios, did Nick, did other people, did they drive the momentum that all of these people now by the hundreds of thousands are unwilling to come out to vote?
00:08:25No, we're responding to the way voters are responding to the way the first two years have gone.
00:08:31We're not the ones that are causing disenfranchisement.
00:08:34We're not the ones that are causing the blackpilling.
00:08:36We're simply pointing out and saying they're justified to feel that way.
00:08:39You started a war that has pulled money out of our pockets as far as food costs, as far as fuel costs, as far as everything that it goes to live life.
00:14:23no, even on just the fundamental issues of affordable housing, stopping the murder of
00:14:30unborn children, traditional marriage, the exaltation of Christianity, you know, like
00:14:37talking about, hey, Christ is king, these kinds of things. There's no contest. There's no debate.
00:14:43James Fishback was objectively, definitively more outspoken and stronger on those issues
00:14:48than buying McDonald's. Here's another thing to keep in mind. And we said this at the time,
00:14:52James Fishback in virtually all the polls, he was slated to be the most likely candidate from the primary Republican primary candidates who would be able to beat the Democrat in the general for the governor.
00:15:09He was slated to be able to win by, I believe, anywhere from two to five percent against the Democrat in the general.
00:15:17Byron Donalds, before the primary election took place, was always slated to lose.
00:15:22And so if he loses, and he may not, but he might, and if he loses, same thing with Vivek. If these guys lose, here's the deal. You're saying, well, you had your chance to voice your dissent in the primary. Well, we did voice our dissent in the primary, right?
00:15:40So you're acting like, well, now we're being serious, right?
00:15:42Because of the general election and this is the last election of our lifetimes, right?
00:19:04He was not 200 times larger than David, right?
00:19:09David and Goliath isn't even really an accurate analogy.
00:19:12For David, you know, Goliath was probably five times or maybe in terms of weight, maybe 10 times the weight of David.
00:19:21Byron Donald, in terms of his war chest, the triple Trump endorsement, the funding from Miriam Adelson and the Jewish donors, it was a 200 to 1 outspent.
00:19:35but in terms of actual votes, only a less than five to one, like 48 point something percent to
00:19:4110.5% with James Fishback, James actually did exceedingly well. And even if he never had a
00:19:47shot, which hindsight's 2020 and based off of hindsight, it's kind of true. He never had a
00:19:52shot. I regret nothing because we are making a statement and saying, no, we're going to stand
00:19:58with virtue. We're going to stand with the most righteous candidate in the primaries. Now, if all
00:20:03these other guys who mocked us then and are mocking us now if they had done the same thing0.84
00:20:09and said you know what like my point is they're they're hypocritical they're lying they're saying0.70
00:20:14hey the primary that's the time but now it's time to fall in line but during the primary they were
00:20:20doing the same thing they're doing now they're saying fall in line vote for byron don't vote for
00:20:24james fishback he's a joke he can't actually win these guys are here's the point they're not
00:20:29concerned about righteousness winning the day. They're not concerned about the right team winning.
00:20:35They're just concerned about being on whatever team wins. They don't care if the right team wins.
00:20:41They just want to be on the team that wins. That's the argument. And that's why people are
00:20:46not taking them seriously. So if the GOP does get crushed in the midterms, and I think they will,
00:20:52listen to me, I'll say it loud and clear. It is not because of us. It's not because of Nick
00:20:57Fuentes. It's not because of Tucker Carlson. It is because Donald Trump and MAGA and all the MAGA
00:21:04influencers have laughed at us, have cursed at us, have called us stupid, have mocked us and are now1.00
00:21:12saying, hey, we need you. That's just bad politics. That's not the way politics work. You don't mock1.00
00:21:19someone and then turn around and say, oh, wait, please help. Well, these primaries are run by the
00:21:25party apparatus in that state. So in Florida, there were no debates. Byron said, I'm not going
00:21:29to do it. I don't think anybody's polling high enough. They disinfited James from a big party
00:21:34event. Same thing in Ohio. Vivek early on ran as the front runner. There was guys that were
00:21:38dissuaded from going onto the ballot. And so all across Thomas Massey, tens of millions of dollars
00:21:43poured into that state. So the party apparatus, the machine runs the primaries. Your voice doesn't
00:21:48get heard in the primaries. Then it comes time for the general. It's like, well, that was your
00:21:51time to have your voice heard. It wasn't heard. Get in line and vote. Oh, wait a second. I never
00:21:55even had a chance at any of these points to be actually heard out. Right. Yeah, exactly. The
00:21:59primaries is like, well, that's your chance to voice your dissent. Oh, but by the way, Trump is
00:22:04going to be dropping nukes from truth social saying Thomas Massey is he was never MAGA. He's
00:22:12the worst Republican candidate of all time. He's not a patriot. He's a traitor to our nation. I0.55
00:22:17I mean, all the donations to Massey came, not all of them, the vast majority from Kentucky.
00:22:22For his opponent, Gallerain, vast majority outside of Kentucky.
00:22:25It's clear who the people of that Kentucky district wanted to represent them.
00:22:29It's also clear who the machine wanted in Congress to vote on their bills.
00:22:32So when they say, hey, primaries, it's a fair landscape for may the best man win.
00:22:44Right. It's you're only you're only told that you're allowed to voice your dissent in the primaries after the primaries have already happened.
00:22:53And when they're trying to be reasonable and then twist your arm to force you to vote in the general, you yeah, you can voice your dissent in the primaries.0.71
00:23:01But then they're going to call up Miriam Adelson and APAC and all these Jewish donors and get millions and millions of dollars to smother your candidate to make sure your voice is never heard.0.75
00:23:12It doesn't matter what the actual constituents on the ground.
00:23:20But they poured in all this money to change voters and to drive out a new voting base that never cared before, but all of a sudden cares because there's money and dollars and advertising.
00:23:33These kinds of machine gears up, starts grinding.
00:23:39when they say, well, you had your shot and you just didn't make your voice heard or what. No,
00:23:44no, I was not born yesterday. I remember two months ago when we were trying to make our voice
00:23:49heard, Trump was mocking us, right? All the MAGA influencers were mocking us and telling us,
00:23:56shut up, shut up, fall in line, fall in line. And then Miriam Adelson was just dumping millions and0.90
00:24:03millions of dollars out of trucks, you know, just backing up trucks with cash and dumping them to1.00
00:24:08where you can never win. And so, um, I, there, there are people, Ken Paxton. All right. I'll
00:24:14use him as an example. I'm not a fan. Um, I, I'm, I'm not a big fan. Um, but when I think about
00:24:20voting, right, I live here in Texas. Uh, one of the things that I'm going to question is who is
00:24:26the alternative, right? What's the alternative? Who are they running against? Well, in the case
00:24:30of Ken Paxton, he's running against, uh, literally the devil incarnate James Tallarico. Like, think
00:24:36about that. What did Satan do with Jesus in the wilderness? He, he tries to tempt him by twisting
00:24:42the word of God. The way that James Tallarico has twisted the word of God to support transgender,0.97
00:24:48you know, reproductive assignment for, for minors and for children. If James Tallarico was in the0.78
00:24:55wilderness with Satan trying to tempt Jesus, I guarantee you Satan himself would say, dude,
00:24:59slow down. That's, that's, I mean, this is a bit much like James Tallarico makes the devil blush.
00:25:06He does like the devil is like, dude, this is a little bit on the nose. Shouldn't we be more
00:25:11subtle? Like, you know, so in that kind of race, when, when the alternative is James Tallarico,
00:25:17then I'm probably not probably, I'm going to vote for Paxton. Um, I'm going to vote for both French0.92
00:25:24with a sense of pride. I'm going to vote for Paxton with a sense of, well, you got to do what0.86
00:25:29you got to do, you know? And, and so we understand there is actually a category of holding your nose
00:25:36and voting. But you have to think who's the alternative. Here's another thing. Like I said
00:25:41earlier, what does this set a new precedent, right? Ken, Ken Paxton doesn't really set a new
00:25:46precedent. It's a white guy, milquetoast, kind of conservative, claims to be Christian. You know,
00:25:54it's, he's a dime a dozen, right? You're not opening, opening Pandora's box and setting some
00:25:59new precedent that could really hurt your state and hurt the country in the future.
00:26:04But voting for a guy who worships 3 million demon gods, voting for an anchor baby barefoot0.98
00:26:11Hindu who scams heritage Americans out of their money and then lectures every Christmas0.98
00:26:19heritage Americans for why they have no inheritance and they have no rights to the country.0.98
00:26:25And it's like that, that is actually a new precedent. And in a state like Ohio, one, it's, it's quarantined, right? This is different than a national election, a presidential election too, because Ohio has been historically a deep red state. It is very likely that if Amy Acton wins and Amy Acton is horrible, we're not defending her. She's, she's a Jewish she devil, right? She's, she is a communist.0.96
00:26:53She locked down the state big time during COVID.0.99
00:26:58If she wins, it is very likely, more probable than not, that with the state Senate and these other mechanisms, checks and balances in the government of that local state politics, her arms will be tied behind her back from day one.
00:27:13She will not be able to do anything serious to hurt the state.
00:27:17And the few things that she can do will be immediately undone four years later.
00:27:22and it's quarantined. It's isolated. It's one state. It's not the whole country. These are
00:27:27things to consider. So there are moments where you vote with pride for your guy. There are moments
00:27:33where you hold your nose, but you vote out of desperation because it really is time to be a
00:27:38patriot and save the country from communists. And there are other times where you say, you know
00:27:42what? Not this time. We can actually afford this loss. It's actually not no matter how many times
00:27:48you scream it. It is not the last election of our lifetimes. Not because the last election of our
00:27:54lifetimes is in the future, just for the record. It's because the last real election of our
00:27:58lifetimes is decades in the past. You need to know that, by the way. The reason why this is
00:28:03not the last election of our lifetime is because we actually already had that, like decades ago.
00:28:10When you think of what set the precedent and gave rise, you know, leveled the playing field,
00:28:16gave rise to the managerial state, to the machine, to the one party, uniparty system, to all these.
00:28:24Go back to the Federal Reserve, right? Go back to the Hartzeller Act, right? Go back to civil
00:28:29rights. Go back to Reagan and amnesty for millions of illegals in California. That's right. So last0.61
00:28:34election of our lifetime, I would say was like 60s and 70s. We haven't had a real election for,
00:28:45We have not had a real election in 45 years, right?
00:28:49So this is an opportunity to mitigate intense harm in some of those isolated cases where it really is the devil on the ballot, like James Tallarico, Ken Paxson kind of thing.
00:29:06You might say, well, Amy Acton is just as bad as Tallarico.
00:29:09like okay but Ken Paxton is more of the same it doesn't open Pandora's box and set a new precedent0.97
00:29:16for something worse Vivek is not more of the same guys he's not Vivek is a Hindu who worships
00:29:25demon gods who is an anchor baby whose dad hates the country and is apathetic and has never become0.54
00:29:32a citizen over decades who defrauded Americans out of their wealth and is pushing propositional
00:29:37nationhood every christmas to your children vivek cannot have your support he can't and is
00:29:45amy acton terrible yes she is and would she be worse in in the in the short run for those four
00:29:52years in ohio than vivek probably i think it's pretty safe to say uh yes she would be worse
00:29:59and significantly worse but here's the deal is this isolated in one local state versus federal0.71
00:30:06election? Is it a deep red state where her ability to wreak havoc is going to be limited?1.00
00:30:14And does it set the precedent by getting Vivek out of the way? We don't want to solidify the
00:30:22next 30 years of a political future on the right for Vivek Ramaswamy. We want him to leave the
00:30:29scene with his tail behind his legs or between his legs. And this is the chance to do that.
00:30:33And I want Wes to share a story at this point that is really, really, really profound in the way that politics works, because I see the Vivek Amy Acton in Ohio as being very, very similar to Mitt Romney and Obama and that giving way at the federal scene to Trump.
00:36:34You truly are. But what we're going to do is we're going to stomach, we're going to take the blows for four years from Obama, but we're going to clear the slate and it's going to provide the opportunity, not for you to hear our message and give us Trump, but for a Trump-like figure to come in despite you.
00:36:53And then we will get behind him and make it work against you without the GOP.
00:36:59What we're talking about is not a fever pitch.
00:37:16So both in terms of 26 midterms and 28 presidential election, we see this as if the GOP gets crushed good and hard, not because of podcast, podcastistan, but because of the GOP, because of MAGA, because of Trump and their own mistakes and mocking their own base.
00:37:35if they get crushed in the midterms in 2026 and they also lose in 2028, we see that it's not the
00:37:42GOP getting our message and choosing to coalesce to our demands. We see that as simply clearing the
00:37:50playing field from any incumbents that sets, it clears the slate, creates a brand new space,
00:37:57context for us to run our guys again in 2030, the next midterm, and also in 2032, the next
00:38:06presidential. And we don't have a crystal ball. We're not God. We're not omniscient. We can't
00:38:10promise what will happen. But we think that that is probably, probably by the grace of God, the
00:38:16best option. Now, I'm not saying right now, the verdict's still out. So I'm not telling you what
00:38:21I'm going to do in 2028. I still have not made up my mind. There is more data points that need to
00:38:26come in and that need to be carefully discerned and analyzed. But for 2026, I do think that we
00:38:34have enough data points for someone like Vivek to say no. And we, again, NXR, our position on the
00:38:42record, I'm going to be clear about this, we are not advocating for our listeners, for Christians
00:38:47to go and cast their vote for Amy Acton. There are some who would advocate for that. That's not0.63
00:38:52our position. What we are saying is in the case of Vivek, we believe that this is a scenario where
00:38:59you hold your nose because he's Indian, but you also walk away. You don't hold your nose and vote,0.92
00:39:05you hold your nose and walk away. And you just simply withhold your vote as a Christian and
00:39:10send a message to the GOP that inevitably they won't receive. It's not about that. It's not about
00:39:16I'm going to send my message and the GOP will listen. That's what MAGA influencers are mocking
00:39:22right now, and they're probably right. But it's not that it's going to send a message that the
00:39:27GOP gets. It's that it's going to clear the slate, right? So that in 2030, now somebody who's not
00:39:34Vivek, who's not a scamming Indian Hindu anchor baby, can be put forward and actually win. And0.98
00:39:43Vivek, who is more conservative than an Amy Acton, that's true, but who in terms of the macro,
00:39:50the larger picture pushes propositional nationhood, pushes against nationalism,
00:39:56pushes against all these things that must win.
00:39:59Said himself, he's like, I cannot promote Christian values because I'm not a Christian.0.99
00:40:03Right. Yeah. So that guy hopefully goes away forever. And that actually is important. That is
00:40:11a win. So. Yeah. And we've talked about this before, but the nature of politics is that you
00:40:15have this political consultant class and they're looking at all of these races. And after the
00:40:20midterms, what they're going to be trying to do is draw lessons to your earlier point of
00:40:23what was it about this candidate? So you brought up Ken Paxton, for example. I think Ken Paxton
00:40:28is a good example to buttress the point that when the GOP gets crushed, it won't be our fault.
00:40:35And we're simply just making a prognosis or a diagnosis of what we what we see happening,
00:40:39mainly because the GOP is just putting forth bad candidates. So if you look at someone like
00:40:43Ken Paxton, right, how much energy have we at an XR spent criticizing Ken Paxton doing,
00:40:48you know these detailed uh analysis none right and still it looks like he's in a tight race where
00:40:55he could potentially lose and and to the point where it's kind of ridiculous they're bringing
00:40:59his ex-wife who if i'm not mistaken is actively engaged in legal uh sort of uh disputes with him
00:41:07bringing her on the campaign trail to say something to the effect of yeah sometimes you
00:41:12just have to vote for people we don't like she's talking about her ex-husband ken paxton that's how
00:41:16bad it is so if it's all nick has said if i'm remember correctly he's also endorsed paxton he's
00:41:21like i think paxton should win so we're behind paxton we're voting for him because we're actually
00:41:25in texas other podcasters and influencers influencers that are dissident they're saying
00:41:29yeah i think paxton's a better choice we're behind him yeah still a super tight race still a super
00:41:34tight race so so that's just the point to the point of is it our fault that ken paxton is in
00:41:39a really tight race or is it maybe he wasn't the best candidate right and so and if it's happening
00:41:44here in texans that as it relates to paxton is it not happening everywhere else and mike rogers
00:41:50and byron donald this is the point that we're making is that we're simply coming to the
00:41:55conversation saying hey this is a bad candidate this isn't good this isn't a good race these
00:41:59aren't the right talking points this is what you need to say um and uh and so when when things
00:42:04turn out in november not really good for the gop uh we should be the last people to blame uh joel
00:42:10Barry, September 25th, he said, Vivek is a Hindu, quoting actually you, Joel, when you
00:42:15said that's one of the reasons you wouldn't vote for him.
00:42:17Joel Barry said, his political philosophy is pure Anglo-Protestinism.
00:42:21Dinesh Jassouza said, a conservative Hindu like Vivek Ramaswamy will do more to preserve
00:42:27what survives of Christian America than a secular leftist like Amy Acton, who is actively
00:42:33What a bunch of tired talking points from a couple of washed up commentators.
00:42:36No, guys, please. Vivek Ramaswamy's political philosophy is Anglo-Protestantism. He himself is not Protestant, nor is he Anglo. But trust me, bro, that's his political philosophy. And we're just, you can hate us and we'll take the blame. There's millions of Ohioans. We know them. I think of a donor that we have in Ohio who loves us. He's like, guys, I can't do it. He loves the Lord. He loves his family. He wants to see his state renewed. He's like, I can't do it.
00:43:01we're taking kind of the brunt of the attacks we're taking the criticism but really what we
00:43:06represent is millions of people who have said you didn't deliver on what you promised us uh in when
00:43:12in 2024 you didn't deliver on the mass deportation you didn't deliver on no new wars you didn't
00:43:17deliver on the maha agenda and i'm just not enthusiastic about coming out to vote and you
00:43:21can't make me do it you're not going to browbeat me you're not going to guilt me i just won't have
00:43:25it yeah and i think that's perfectly fair yeah that back to that tweet didash de souza he said
00:43:30you know, retweeting me, a conservative Hindu like Vivek Ramaswamy will do more to preserve
00:43:35what survives of Christian America than a secular leftist like Amy Acton,0.84
00:43:40who is actively working to destroy it. I responded to him and I said, Vivek is not a lesser evil.
00:43:48Number one, Hindu, worshiping three million demon gods. Number two, anchor baby. Number three,0.99
00:43:53family scammed Americans. Number four, dad still isn't a citizen. Number five, lectures Americans
00:43:58that their lineage slash inheritance is worthless. Sometimes you hold your nose, but this time you
00:44:04walk away. And I stand by that. Vivek absolutely has to lose. And again, that doesn't mean as a
00:44:13Christian in Ohio that you vote for Amy Acton, but it does mean on principle you withhold your vote,
00:44:19not because the GOP will get the message, but because it clears the slate for four years later
00:44:24for you to get your candidate, the right candidate, to put them forward. And Amy Acton, even though
00:44:30she's terrible, her destructive intentions will be mitigated in that particular race. So you're1.00
00:44:37looking at what is the alternative from a Vivek? Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's Amy Acton. But you
00:44:42also have to look at what are they able to do in that context? Okay, deep red state. They're going
00:44:47to have checks and balances. Their arms are going to be tied behind their back from day one. It's
00:44:52isolated. It's not a national race. It's a state race. And hopefully it gives the opportunity to
00:44:59send Vivek away from politics, American politics on the right, hopefully forever, so that you can
00:45:05then run somebody who's actually worth your vote. So that's our position. That's our strategy.
00:45:11We encourage you to employ it. We encourage you to employ that strategy. There are some races
00:45:17where you hold your nose. There's other races where you vote with pride. And there's others
00:45:22where you walk away, not because the GOP will hear the message, but because you're clearing
00:45:26the slate for a Donald Trump type figure in the future.
00:45:29And if you think that that strategy is ridiculous, then you need to just, especially if you're0.98
00:45:35a magotard, you just need to be honest that you're being hypocritical because that's the0.99
00:45:39exact precise strategy that got Trump into the White House in the first place.0.97
00:45:44It was true patriots, conservative patriots like Wesley Todd's dad, a million strong
00:45:50who said, no, we're not going to hold our nose and vote for Mitt Romney.
00:45:55And what that did was, did it send a message to the GOP that they actually listened to?