The NXR Podcast - April 22, 2022


QUESTIONS - Are We Under Law Or Grace？


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6 minutes

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217.0

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1,418

Sentence count

56


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In this episode, we discuss the Old Testament and the New Testament in relation to the Ten Commandments and how they relate to the Christian life. What does it mean to be a Christian if we are no longer subject to the Old and New Testament law?

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00:00:21.440 What argument from scripture would you give to someone who says
00:00:24.700 we are no longer beholden to the Old Testament law,
00:00:27.980 that we are under the law of grace.
00:00:33.400 Not under law, under grace.
00:00:35.100 For me.
00:00:35.680 Can I see that question?
00:00:36.700 Yeah, let's do the first one.
00:00:38.560 Yeah, the Old Testament law specifically.
00:00:40.500 So like Paul, Paul says, don't muzzle the ox.
00:00:44.440 Worker is worthy of his wages.
00:00:46.160 He takes this case law.
00:00:47.240 He applies it, the principle of it, right, to pay your pastor.
00:00:51.240 So obviously the apostle Paul thought that there was something about the Old Testament law
00:00:55.440 that was still applicable somehow.
00:00:57.980 And that was a civil law. That wasn't even just a moral law.
00:01:02.640 And so I do think the distinction between civil, ceremonial, moral is a good one.
00:01:08.520 But what's still in effect, I think, is the moral law.
00:01:11.560 And the civil laws kind of showcase what those moral laws are.
00:01:15.200 So in our context, I think it does take some thinking sometimes.
00:01:19.160 Often, I think you said this yesterday, Joel, about building a parapet around, you know, on your roof.
00:01:24.100 And like, we don't really do that anymore. I know that's a common answer.
00:01:27.500 I've heard others say the same thing when asked this question.
00:01:30.920 But there are other things that we do to try to promote safety and make sure that there's not negligence.
00:01:37.200 And so it's the principle that we're looking for.
00:01:40.280 I don't pretend to know how every principle in the Old Testament might apply in certain circumstances.
00:01:44.940 But yeah, I mean, Jesus thought the law still applied.
00:01:48.480 Paul thought the law still applies.
00:01:49.960 I mean, I think the law still applies in some way.
00:01:52.500 Yeah, I keep it real simple.
00:01:53.660 You know, most people believe that you should love your neighbor as yourself.
00:01:57.520 Most people believe that you should love the Lord your God with all your heart.
00:02:00.080 And when I say most people, all Christians should believe those things.
00:02:03.300 And it's very easy.
00:02:05.060 Those two things come directly from the Old Testament law.
00:02:07.720 They're summaries of the Old Testament law.
00:02:09.240 So if you believe those things, then you believe that you should still do the Old Testament law in that regard.
00:02:14.620 You should love God.
00:02:15.340 Well, that's the Old Testament law.
00:02:16.860 Jesus didn't make that up in the New Testament.
00:02:19.260 He actually made that up in Leviticus.
00:02:20.460 so i would uh one thing that i think is really helpful is the word under right no longer under
00:02:26.340 law but under grace like what does that mean in terms of under because that's different than the
00:02:29.820 law has been eroded or the law has been annihilated it's no longer in existence or no longer in effect
00:02:34.720 i think that the word under what the apostle is getting at is he's speaking of the penalty
00:02:39.220 what for the christian for the one who has faith in jesus who's been born again by grace alone
00:02:43.760 through faith alone in christ alone is no longer under the penalty of the law or the threat of the
00:02:48.120 law, the judgment of the law, the condemnation of the law, but is under the reward that comes by
00:02:53.080 grace through the perfect obedience of another, namely the Lord Jesus Christ. So I think it's
00:02:58.500 talking in terms of penalty. In terms of effect, the law is still in effect. And we know this
00:03:04.020 because of what AD said, the Lord Jesus himself said that the Lord Jesus gives us an exposition
00:03:09.620 of Exodus chapter 20. So love the Lord your God with all your hearts with Matthew 22, 37, 38,
00:03:14.800 39 uh and he said to him love the it's part of our catechism so it's he said to him love the lord
00:03:19.920 your god with all your heart with all your soul and with all your mind the second greatest
00:03:22.720 commandment is like it that you should love your neighbor as yourself the problem is right there
00:03:26.120 at that moment um people and even christians sadly will say and and and i'll take it from here
00:03:31.700 so love the lord and love my neighbor and people say and i will determine what is loving i will
00:03:38.780 define what is loving to god and what is loving to neighbor whereas i would say no no god doesn't
00:03:44.160 just get to command us to love him and love people but god also gets to define what is in fact
00:03:49.400 objectively loving to god and loving to people and here we have the two tables of the law so we have
00:03:54.720 love the lord your god that's the first table of the ten commandments the first four so what is
00:03:59.020 loving to the lord have no other gods before me do not make any graven images do not take the lord's
00:04:03.820 name in vain and honor remember the sabbath and keep it holy so i would say do not have any gods
00:04:08.180 before me don't be an idolater love god the most make no graven images to get to the heartbeat of
00:04:14.140 that, the equity of that, I would say that that means that we worship by faith and not by sight.
00:04:19.900 We do not walk by sight, but by faith. And faith comes not by what we see, but faith cometh by
00:04:24.780 hearing and hearing by the word of Christ. So Christians are a word centric people, not an
00:04:29.980 image centric people. And that has to do with our faith. The third, do not take the Lord's name in
00:04:34.340 vain. The heartbeat of that is love God with sincerity. It shouldn't be trivial. It shouldn't
00:04:38.640 be flippant. It should like love God with sincerity. And the fourth is that we should be people who
00:04:43.020 rest on the sabbath day the christian sabbath which christ who is lord of the sabbath did not
00:04:47.760 remove but by virtue of his resurrection who resurrected on the first day of the week he did
00:04:52.500 not remove the sabbath but rather renewed it from the last day of the week to the first
00:04:55.780 and so with that that's what it so when it says love the lord your god with all your heart soul
00:05:00.120 mind exodus 20 tells us what that looks like and it does the same with love your neighbor that's
00:05:05.640 the second table of the law commandments five through ten which means the sixth commandment
00:05:11.280 right thou shall not murder that pertains to how we love our neighbor right so that's why we're
00:05:15.700 wearing masks and getting a jab and all these different things and shutting down our churches
00:05:18.220 because we we don't want to do any physical harm to our neighbor the problem is that is an unhelpful
00:05:23.320 oversimplification and truncation of what it means to love our neighbor it boils all of loving for
00:05:29.060 our neighbor from six commandments namely commandment five through ten down to one commandment
00:05:34.260 namely the sixth commandment thou shalt not murder but there's also the ninth commandment thou shall
00:05:38.520 not bear false witness so what does it mean when i go around wearing a mask for a disease it kills
00:05:43.780 point zero dot you see what and i'm and i'm egging on this this mass psychosis of fear and all these
00:05:51.240 different things and and it's lending towards children being in force to do certain things
00:05:54.920 that are develop uh delaying their development with speech and then okay so there are more than
00:06:00.360 one ways to skin a cat so loving our neighbor it's a big task and and and the bible gives us
00:06:05.900 fleshing that out from the 10 commandments in exodus 20 not just one way to love our neighbor
00:06:10.280 do him no physical harm thou shall not murder but six ways to love our neighbor so thanks so much
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