The NXR Podcast - October 20, 2022


QUESTIONS - Do Elders In A Local Church Need To Be United On Calvinism Or Arminianism？

Hosted by
Joel Webbon Harrison Smith Antonio Griffith Dale Partridge Wewsley Todd Calvin Robinson
Mentioned
Dan Burkholder Brian Sauve Doug Wilson Bruce Wayne Jamie White Joseph Boot Kings Hall Gary DeMar Joel Webin Eric Kahn Arminianism
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Episode Stats


Length

4 minutes

Words per minute

171.89

Word count

806

Sentence count

59


Summary

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In this episode, Pastor Joel Webber joins us to talk about what it means to be an ecumenical church, why it's important to have a clear soteriological view of salvation, and the role of local churches in this matter.

Transcript

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00:00:20.040 Do you think a local church can be fruitful if there is no clear soteriological view,
00:00:26.620 soteriological view, view of salvation. For example, my church is Arminian and Calvinistic.
00:00:33.940 I get you. There is clear divide and we have had three pastors in four years. Yeah, I think that's
00:00:40.820 a bad idea. I think there are some things. So in one regard, I want to be very ecumenical. I get
00:00:45.980 in trouble for this. Some of you guys, you know this, you follow me. I want to be as ecumenical
00:00:49.880 as I possibly can be. But then there are some things that we don't need to be ecumenical at all
00:00:56.260 about. So for instance, and I know plenty of people will disagree with me, but I would hold
00:01:01.760 to this, Brian Sauve and Eric Kahn, Dan Burkholder, the guys with Kings Hall, they would hold to this.
00:01:06.100 Doug Wilson would hold to this. A lot of guys would hold to this. Dale Partridge would hold
00:01:09.740 to this with real Christianity. We believe that in this present hour, that one of the needs of
00:01:16.100 this hour is baptismal Catholicity, baptismal Catholicity, and even at the local church level,
00:01:21.480 meaning we believe that although it may not be ideal, we think it should be permissible
00:01:25.740 and it may be necessary in many cases where one local church affirms and accommodates both the
00:01:34.360 credo and paedo-baptist position in the same local church. And I know there are a lot of
00:01:39.920 credo-baptists and a lot of paedo-baptists who would say, that's madness. That's insanity. That's
00:01:44.740 just breeds confusion. That's not helpful. And I would disagree. I could be wrong, but I would
00:01:50.500 disagreeing. I would say baptismal catholicity, lowercase c, just mean universal, ecumenical,
00:01:55.700 is important. The question that you're asking, Bruce Wayne, is salvation catholicity,
00:02:04.240 soteriological catholicity. And on that one, I would say big fat no. No, I do not think it is
00:02:11.180 a benefit to tell people in one breath that they need to choose God and that Jesus died for everyone
00:02:19.280 and in the next breath to say that God is the author and finisher of our salvation
00:02:25.640 and that God chooses people unconditionally.
00:02:29.100 No, I think those two things, they contradict.
00:02:33.500 Paedo and Credo baptism have contradictions, of course.
00:02:37.080 But I think Arminianism and Calvinism at the level of salvation
00:02:40.580 have such stark and direct contradictions that it just, it cannot,
00:02:47.300 those two things cannot both survive under the same roof. That is going to breed a level and
00:02:54.280 a certain type of confusion in a certain arena, namely salvation, which is central,
00:03:00.460 that is going to do more harm than good. And it's not a surprise. I'm glad you included that
00:03:06.180 because obviously you're connecting these dots and recognize it, but it's not a surprise that
00:03:10.360 your church has had so much overturn with its leadership in such a short amount of time. They
00:03:16.020 need to figure out what they believe about salvation. They need to make up their minds.
00:03:20.260 And hopefully, they'll choose to be Calvinists because that's what the Bible teaches.
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