00:00:00.000hello and welcome to the next crusade exclusive to nxr i am father calvin robinson and this is
00:00:21.680the show where we talk about current events from a christian perspective but today's a very special
00:00:26.300show. It's a very sensitive matter that we're going to discuss. We're going to talk about the
00:00:32.220Charlie Kirk assassination. Now, Charlie Kirk was a friend of mine over the years, a very good man,
00:00:38.520a very honest Christian, and I think what happened to him was awful. It was the worst
00:00:44.360assassination in decades. It was an international incident, and it deserves covering for that0.99
00:00:49.960reason, because it affects the state of this country, if not the world. And so we're going
00:00:55.840to go through it with a friend of mine justin candor who is uh i don't know if i can say much
00:01:00.160about his role but he is a fed he has experience in these matters and he's going to outline uh his
00:01:05.140professional stance on where we're at with the charlie kirk case justin how are you pleasure to
00:01:11.620be with you father how are you thanks for coming on thank you very recently put out a video uh
00:01:17.140asking the question is candace owens crazy and now the tldr is no she's not and i wish that i
00:01:22.700have a friend like candace if i ever get assassinated which is quite likely that someone
00:01:26.560will look into all of the facts ask the inappropriate questions get on the people's
00:01:31.680get on the nerves until they find out what the truth is justin i think you're probably one of
00:01:36.020those people so yeah you know it's good to have you in my life in case i do get assassinated but
00:01:41.160secondly you've also been asking the same questions as candace orange you've been looking into what
00:01:45.740happened to my friend charlie and so i wanted to get you on the show to kind of go through some of
00:01:50.280the indiscrepancies that you've come across? And I'll let you start off with a summary of what
00:01:55.420you've been looking into. Yeah, well, thank you for the for the for outlining that. And I think
00:02:00.400all of us would want to have a friend that really cares if, God forbid, one of us is suddenly taken
00:02:05.420out inexplicably. And the story just doesn't make sense. There's not just gaps, but there's canyons
00:02:10.480in the story. So, you know, I think a lot of us wish for a friend that just keeps asking questions
00:02:15.460doesn't just accept a story that has more more holes than Swiss cheese at your local deli. So
00:02:20.340so I really want to go through some of some of the things that I have looked at in this case
00:02:26.840through the lens of an investigator. So my background is a little bit of law enforcement
00:02:30.960and some, you know, threat assessment on the international landscape as it relates to
00:02:36.180anti bioweapons and things like that. So I have an eye for looking at a case,
00:02:41.680not just from a public point of view, where you see certain people not acting right,
00:02:46.960maybe celebrating when they shouldn't be celebrating, but really what I'd like to look
00:02:50.360at- Like dancing when they shouldn't be dancing.
00:02:53.120Something like that. Yeah. You know, we've all seen a lot of weird
00:02:56.360behavior that's not consistent with a typical person in mourning.
00:03:01.520And these inconsistencies or discrepancies, have you found them
00:03:05.280from the submitted evidence or have you been delving further?
00:03:08.720So, yeah, the submitted evidence or lack thereof in many cases. So, you know, very basic things that would violate. We're not even talking about a trained crime scene technician. We're talking about basic patrolman police academy stuff we're talking about here.
00:03:24.920Right. As far as preserving and, you know, really just throwing up a perimeter and preserving the crime scene.
00:03:32.500And, you know, we don't see any of that in this case.
00:03:35.920And it really mirrors a lot of other cases where there is a lot of suspect behavior in many ways, the same fact pattern where things just don't, you know, if there's a, you know, God forbid, a murder in any any populated city, we see it every day.
00:03:50.380Unfortunately, immediately, the police throw up a perimeter.
00:05:33.640Katherine Nestor is Tyler Robinson's defense attorney.
00:05:37.500Michael Burt, also one of Tyler Robinson's defense attorneys.
00:05:41.780tony f graf in that specific order that is the judge now on this case utah valley university
00:05:48.820now somebody could say well you know there's there might be some you know there's a lot of
00:05:52.340people with dual citizenship in israel it wouldn't be beyond the pale that somebody's looking up uvu
00:05:58.180maybe they're on vacation in israel in israel and they want to you know check up on their their
00:06:03.220application to uvu something like that however low c center rooftop also appears in google searches
00:06:10.820leading up to the assassination, stemming from Tel Aviv, stemming from Washington, D.C. Now,
00:06:16.060why would anybody be interested in the Lossie Center rooftop?
00:06:21.100West 925th South Street, 683 West 925 South Street. Those are the two addresses where the
00:06:30.480shrubs are where the white rifle was supposedly ditched. Again, searches appearing from Israel,
00:06:37.080from washington dc leading up to that time something interesting about those addresses too
00:06:41.800palantir does have some ties to both of those addresses apparently they own one of them through
00:06:46.600a shell company uh timpanogos regional hospital also shows up very bizarre why would anybody in
00:06:52.840israel be interested in that and you know even the staff at that hospital the surgeon that eventually
00:06:58.760was quoted saying that he has a superman's steel neck you know um the the medical examiner i mean
00:07:05.000a whole bunch of things show up on these these uh these um google searches but you know just for
00:07:10.680the sake of time i'm just going to give you the rundown and and we'll we'll just ask ourselves
00:07:16.200does any of this make sense and if none of those you know the you can maybe come up with an
00:07:21.240explanation for some of these one thing in common between this and another incident that we're all
00:07:25.640familiar with is the math the the the name thomas matthew crooks if that name sounds familiar it's
00:07:32.360because it is that's the kid who shot donald trump in butler pennsylvania and it also happens to be
00:07:39.720you know a shooting from a lone wolf gunman who was angry at a conservative shooting from a rooftop
00:07:45.560seems to be the same playbook same google searches too um you know another thing uh on on my list of
00:07:53.800red flags that things that are indisputable is that you know we had this donor ambush which
00:07:58.360Charlie was invited to on August 5th, 2025, just about a month before he was taken out.
00:08:03.900And to me, it seems like this was sort of his last chance to get back on the team.
00:08:09.500Now, this event was, it's proven, it's not in dispute.
00:08:12.900Again, this whole list is not in dispute.
00:08:15.140You can dispute someone's behavior, you can dispute certain, you know, sequence of events,
00:08:22.800but what you can't dispute are these things that have actually happened, just as a reminder.
00:08:26.700So this donor ambush, it was it was laid out for Charlie that he was coming to to to get get some debate points.
00:08:36.100I'm not sure Charlie was a person who maybe needed coaching and how to debate.
00:08:39.960I mean, this is what he did for a living and he was paid very well to do it.
00:08:43.740And this so this event was one of the best debaters at the time.
00:08:48.100Yeah. Yeah. And that's what he was known for.
00:08:50.800Prove me wrong, you know, and he would invite people up to the microphone who disagreed with him the most.
00:08:56.320So does he really need to go to the New York Hamptons with Bill Ackman hosting this and be on a bunch of phone calls with rabbis and Benjamin Netanyahu, apparently, just to just to be told how to defend Israel?
00:09:09.400I mean, is that really what he needed help with?0.53
00:09:11.040In fact, it was Charlie that was encouraging Netanyahu to be more humane and be more tactful in how they message, you know, their desire for, you know, self-defense.
00:09:26.240And, you know, he was the one actually telling Netanyahu how to kind of strategize his messaging.
00:09:31.420So not sure that Charlie really needed any support there.
00:09:34.460But actually, this this incident concerned Andrew Colvitt so much that he apparently contacted the NCTC, the Joe Kent and Tulsi Gabbard's office, reporting the incident as, you know, a ties to a foreign threat that he was at least concerned enough to report it.
00:09:52.620so you know charlie's text following this event saying i fear that they're going to kill me i
00:09:59.480mean i would say has something to do with being ambushed and being pressured to you know come
00:10:05.820back to israel for sort of a reprogramming trip by netanyahu himself and as as reports indicate
00:10:11.520he was actually pressured uh to accept 150 million dollars as sort of um you know get back on the
00:10:17.720train kind of thing, get back on the team. Charlie refused all of that. He didn't want to partake
00:10:22.860anymore. He was done. He was done with the team at that point. So, I mean, you combine that with
00:10:28.000the letter that he wrote, I mean, it's to Netanyahu. I mean, it's very clear that Charlie
00:10:33.000was definitely ambushed here. And it was a very high pressure, you know, interaction just based
00:10:38.100on everything that we've heard from the folks that were actually there. Going back to the actual
00:10:43.760incidents of what occurred on the day of the assassination when we lost Charlie you know we
00:10:49.680were told that this kid Tyler Robinson who is not a particular you know excellent marksman or
00:10:56.040anything like that but we're told that he had a 30-odd six Mauser rifle shoved down his pants
00:11:01.320now in a lot of these photos that we were given you can see the outline of his cell phone in his
00:11:08.800pocket, but you can't see the outline of a 44 inch gun in his pants. I mean, that doesn't really
00:11:15.220make any sense. But something that really doesn't make sense to me, again, concrete stuff that we're
00:11:20.000looking at here, is that as he's walking up the stairwell in the parking garage, he changes his
00:11:26.140limp. First, he has a stiff right leg. And then as soon as he gets up on the landing of the staircase
00:11:31.520to turn and make the second flight of stairs, he changes his limp. He kind of forgets what gun,
00:11:37.380what side of his pants the gun is supposed to be stuffed in apparently right i mean
00:11:41.340very odd and and you can see that in a video that i can i can share here coming up the stairs of the
00:11:47.640parking structure again he seems to be having issues walking
00:12:07.380and again we able to track so we able to track mr robinson uh when he leaves this parking
00:12:17.040structure yes we were able to so when he leaves the parking structure where where does he go
00:12:23.340uh he he comes up around campus drive as you can see on the video here there is a there is a cut
00:12:31.100through there north of the low sea building and that's mr robinson coming up the sidewalk
00:12:34.980he has the noticeable gait or limp in his walk and then he moves south across the
00:12:41.880front of the low sea building going back to the day of the assassination another thing that really
00:12:48.340doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me is why was hunter kozak seen almost rehearsing his reaction
00:12:53.380you know as if it wasn't odd enough that we were told that it's a trans shooter a disgruntled
00:13:00.480person who hated charlie kirk based on his trans issues which i mean if you know charlie kirk
00:13:04.760in the political landscape of conservative commentators, Charlie wasn't particularly
00:13:09.680hard on the LGBT movement or anything like that. In fact, he explicitly was making room for people
00:13:16.440in the conservative movement. And some people on the right found that a little problematic.
00:13:20.960So Charlie Kirk would be one of the last people, if you're really angry about that issue,
00:13:25.940to take out. I mean, and just as a side note, if you're angry about LGBT issues and you want to
00:13:33.540take out Charlie Kirk, Chick-fil-A would probably be the last place I would go to eat before
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00:17:57.060can see through the uh through the um the behavior of charlie kirk's security team
00:18:02.960now normally i would classify this as an orange or red flag because it's really circumstantial
00:18:08.080however when you look at previous tp usa events you do not see anything like this you don't see
00:18:15.260these signals right you don't see dan flood looking at frank turek tugging on his hat and
00:18:21.180then stepping forward and tapping his shoulder you don't see in the same second rick cutler
00:18:26.140all of a sudden tugging on something on his shoulder i mean there were it seemed to be that
00:18:29.980was a serious there's a lot of this which is something you don't really do i mean i i wear
00:18:34.540polo shirts all the time i don't think i've ever done that to the sleeve i find it very weird and
00:18:39.580you're right it's circumstantial but it stands out and that's what matters exactly i mean it's
00:18:44.460there's just no explanation for it right there's we i mean you can say well he had there's enough
00:18:50.220plausible deniability that it could just be anything but it is strange enough that it could
00:18:54.060be something right and and so the reason i bring this up father is because you don't really we've
00:18:59.500heard us time and time again you know a lot of explanations you know everybody grieves differently
00:19:03.980when it comes to erica when it comes came to dan flood and rick cartler we hear oh you know they
00:19:08.060would always tap their shoulders really i don't i've looked back at a lot of these events i've
00:19:12.540never seen that so that's why i would i would classify this as a red orange flag it has red
00:19:18.460in it definitely is it orange is it circumstantial it is but in the broader context of usual fact
00:19:24.940patterns usual behaviors you can't look at a grieving widow and say well that that just doesn't
00:19:29.500make sense because there's no baseline to judge it on it's not like she loses a husband every day
00:19:33.260however there are many events that charlie has been at and in every single one you've got dan
00:19:37.980flood there you've got rick cutler there you've got frank turk there none of them are tugging on
00:19:42.300their hats tapping their shoulders you know i i would push back on people who say well you know
00:19:48.220the way they reacted was odd it was but again they're trained security professionals so you
00:19:52.780could say they didn't react the way the audience did because they they're kind of trained for it
00:19:56.700they're always at the shooting range they're always preparing for these incidents i in my gut
00:20:01.660i don't feel that way when you look at their reaction but i i look at what they did right up
00:20:07.180to the shot and that just doesn't line up with any other tb usa event that we've ever seen charlie
00:20:13.180kirk uh participate in so i would definitely that reaction does stand out too when i i mean looking
00:20:18.940at it i saw them grin i saw a laughter expression of laughter on their faces as they're looking at
00:20:26.460his body crouched over his body doing something taking something from him it looked like there
00:20:31.580was a grin from two of them i find that peculiar to say the least i can't imagine any trained
00:20:37.660professional in any professional security environment where they'd think it would be an
00:20:41.820appropriate reaction to grin looking over what is seemingly an injured body but was provenly a
00:20:47.980dead body. Again, going back to what you said, I mean, we all wish we had a friend like Candace
00:20:54.720Owens, a sister like her, a brother, you know, that cares about us, that would ask questions
00:21:00.680and not be taking it so lightly. I mean, the guy's bleeding out of his neck. You would be
00:21:04.980mortified just from the sight of that alone, much less. I think the individual you're speaking about
00:21:10.320is Rick Cutler. We see a visible smile on his face. I think Dan Flood may be the second person.
00:21:16.260I can't remember who that second person is, but definitely Rick Cutler, which is the second
00:21:21.600gentleman who was tugging at his sleeve, who was in the audience right next to one of the
00:21:25.620perimeter railings. Very odd reaction. Again, it just does not line up. Now, again, you could say,
00:21:33.400well, people grieve differently, people react differently, but the guy's bleeding out of his
00:21:37.140neck and you should be concealing the wound, trying to control the blood loss. I mean,
00:21:41.360there's we don't see any of that further something that you know i i noticed is that you know there
00:21:46.620were medics on scene there was no ambulance there not that i could see which kind of violates the
00:21:51.720law but more importantly there were medics there they didn't allow the medics to really work on
00:21:56.640them there were squad cars there they didn't really ask for a police escort i i saw police
00:22:01.920actually trying to escort them out and they could have had lights and sirens running code three all
00:22:06.840the way to the hospital, but they didn't. And we'll get into what actually happened in that SUV
00:22:11.540in just a moment here. But, you know, just from what happened on stage, it just doesn't make any
00:22:16.940sense that your guy is bleeding out. This is your security asset. You are here to protect him. He
00:22:24.920was saying, guys, don't forget, there is one guy you are there to protect tomorrow. I am really
00:22:29.460scared. They're going to kill me. He said that repeatedly leading up to this. And you're laughing,0.96
00:22:34.200You're smiling. I mean, nobody's trying to, you know, we heard accounts of, you know, there were blood over everybody. There was no blood on anybody. I couldn't see any blood on anyone. And we were told that everybody was just frantically trying to, you know, Mikey McCoy was a general directing the scene. Mikey McCoy in 0.824 seconds, we've timed it, puts his phone up to his ear. There's nobody on his phone.
00:22:59.580he's not on the phone with anyone that we can see and we've we've seen you know behind angles of his
00:23:07.360his you know his phone we've we have new footage has now been released where we can kind of see
00:23:12.460what he was doing on his phone same thing with frank frank turek excuse me but we don't see
00:23:17.380anybody on the phone with him and yet the first story that they're told is that he put his phone
00:23:21.500up to his ear because they were trained drilled into their heads by charlie kurt to call erica
00:23:26.360the minute something like this would happen i you know i just i i i just don't understand how any
00:23:33.880of that is is i mean 0.824 seconds is not enough time to hear a gunshot even as a security or
00:23:41.960police professional and adequately react it usually takes two to four seconds to take cover
00:23:48.120and really react and understand what you're hearing is gunshots and you need to conceal yourself
00:31:47.180So I think what we're seeing is not just the assassination of a political figure that some people loved, some people felt indifferent to, and some people hated.
00:31:56.400Why I think every American and every citizen around the world needs to be concerned about this is because really what we're getting is a JFK all over again.
00:32:05.420A lot of people think that Charlie was destined to be president one day.
00:32:08.380whether you think that's true or not it's you cannot deny that he was a very influential figure
00:32:14.380and you know i would argue that he was made to be an influential figure he was he was sponsored he
00:32:20.480was he was he was living a truman show i mean none of this was organic right i mean everybody
00:32:25.460um at first thought that charlie was this genius who built this organization and he was a brilliant
00:32:30.420fellow but nobody can really do this on their own it wouldn't have happened without dozens of
00:32:35.860millions of dollars coming in from Israeli lobby groups and Israel donors, Jewish donors,
00:32:42.080who he openly admits they were Jewish donors.
00:32:44.480But the problem arises when his message starts to move out of sync with Israel's message.
00:32:50.620They were in sync for the longest time as a Christian, maybe a Christian Zionist, but
00:32:54.620certainly someone who believed in Judeo-Christian values.
00:32:58.240But once that came out of sync, because he is a Christian American, and he realized that
00:33:02.680actually America's interests aren't always in line with Israel's interests. Iran is one instance.
00:33:08.120October the 7th is another instance. And as you quite rightly pointed out on Patrick McDavid,
00:33:12.620he talked about, was there a stand down order on October the 7th, for example, as well as the
00:33:16.560question of there's going to be an ethnic cleansing. There's going to be a genocide,
00:33:19.760essentially what he's saying. So he's moving away from the message that his donors liked
00:33:24.160or his donors expected. And that's incredibly dangerous when your donors are incredibly rich.
00:33:29.300It is. You know, I personally felt pretty indifferent to Charlie Kirk. You know, I saw
00:33:33.340kind of his lukewarm stance on the LGBT issue and so on. And so he wasn't exactly my cup of tea. But
00:33:38.160the reason I fell in love with Charlie's messaging and his mission, because it's because I saw what
00:33:43.040he was battling in the end. This was a man who was in pursuit of the truth. Not only was he
00:33:47.880attending Catholic mass regularly through the week. I mean, we're not even talking Sunday morning. He
00:33:53.000was seen at St. Anne's, I mean, throughout the week with his daughter. This man was, and he used
00:33:58.220to say to Protestants, we don't venerate Mary enough. He was recognizing that, you know, Catholics
00:34:01.900don't worship the saints and worship Mary. I mean, he was really coming into the fullness of his
00:34:06.460faith. And a man who is sincere about his faith cannot be insincere about Zionism or anything
00:34:12.900else. He had, I believe, an attack of conscience and he realized what Zionism really is and what0.90
00:34:19.380Israel really is. It's an impersonation of the ancient land of Judea. It is not the biblical0.87
00:34:25.760land of Judea or the biblical people of Israel. And I think Charlie not only realized this towards
00:34:31.900the end, but he was realizing the mask that was just starting to come off of these people.
00:34:39.060Just to double down on his pursuit of the truth is fundamental. That was what he said
00:34:43.580did everything around. That's so important. A lot of his events, for example, people would say they
00:34:47.980didn't want Tucker Carlson there. They didn't want Candace Owens there. And he was always backing
00:34:53.460them and backing their message and their ability to put forward their message, whether he agreed
00:34:57.760with it or not, in the pursuit of truth. So you can have your Ben Shapiro, you can also have your
00:35:01.480Tucker Carlson, and that's important for him. Whereas for many of the Christian Zionists,1.00
00:35:04.940they just wanted affirmation, much like the woke, much like the trans lobby. They just want to hear0.89
00:35:09.160their own thing repeated back at them. That's what the Zionists wanted. I was up, well, up until1.00
00:35:14.340Charlie's assassination, I was always invited to speak at his events. And I was the only Catholic
00:35:18.720in the room invited. And many of the Christian Zionists were nice to my face, but many of them1.00
00:35:22.620would rather I wasn't on the same platform as them, as them able to speak, share a message0.97
00:35:28.640that's different to their message. I didn't always talk about Israel, but the point being that they0.61
00:35:34.360see their faith as different to our faith. After his assassination, I've still been invited a couple
00:35:38.860of times, but not as often as I was when he was responsible, because he wanted that diversity of
00:35:43.380thought and opinion so that the truth could float to the surface. And that's not what they want now.
00:35:47.420Exactly. And, you know, going back to your mention of Tucker and Candace, you know, there was a clip that, you know, after this whole thing in the Hamptons in New York with this ambush of Zionist donors, he took to the he was invited on the Kelly, Megyn Kelly podcast and Megyn Kelly podcast.
00:40:08.040One of them, there's no explanation for it.
00:40:10.420Let's go through the thing that's in dispute first, the front end.
00:40:13.440The front end has a license plate holder that can be seen in one image on campus and is
00:40:18.860not seen on another image when it's towed out of its driveway.
00:40:21.480However, one of the features of the vehicle that cannot be explained is the exhaust pipes.
00:40:27.480you see in one image two dual exhaust pipes and in the other image two single exhaust pipes well
00:40:37.220sounds like ai has generated some of these images could be ai could be a decoy vehicle
00:40:42.480and so what's the importance of what's the significance of the dodge challenger so if
00:40:47.880you have a dodge challenger on campus that's purported to be the by the way those cameras
00:40:53.140nothing's changed about those cameras and we will get into the the crystal clear images that uvu has
00:40:58.580now produced for another case um you can clearly read license plates so we weren't given a license
00:41:04.620plate that's the first thing the second thing is when you look at this dodge challenger that's on
00:41:09.300campus and you see the dodge challenger in the driveway that can't be the same person but this
00:41:14.340is supposedly the perpetrator's vehicle supposedly however we have a ring doorbell camera as well as
00:41:20.940a neighbor's witness testimony who say that they witnessed somebody bald driving that Dodge
00:41:26.080Challenger with about three to four occupants in the vehicle. So that doesn't sound like a lone
00:41:32.240wolf gunman. Tyler Robinson has a full head of hair we've seen. I mean, that does not
00:41:37.100fit the description of the suspect that we've been given at all. You know, lone gunman arrived
00:41:43.620by himself, didn't even tell his lover that he was going. He just took off on this mission by
00:41:48.700himself, did the deed and escaped. I mean, why is there a Dodge Challenger scene with so many
00:41:56.220people in there? And furthermore, why do we not have a license plate confirmed? How many cameras
00:42:01.180are on that campus? I mean, in excess of 25 to 30 cameras, just on the UVU campus,
00:42:07.060monitoring the exterior of all those buildings. What happened to all the cameras that were part
00:42:11.260of Charlie's camp as well? And what happened to the audio from the microphone that he was wearing
00:42:16.340when he allegedly got shot yeah that that's a great question right i mean that microphone audio
00:42:21.560would solve the case pretty much for those of us who suspect there was an exploding microphone
00:42:25.580uh which is coincidentally from the factory that blew up uh in a matter of days after
00:42:31.980charlie's assassination if it was not an exploding microphone we should have the audio footage of him
00:42:37.540being shot because he was wearing the microphone as he got shot it's a closed door case right there
00:42:42.940Yeah, you know, we they could they could simply solve this by doing, you know, you could you could push back if you're TPUSA or you're their attorney and say, well, they're not obligated.
00:42:51.580OK, we got it. But, you know, are we after the truth or are we after asserting our rights here?
00:42:55.700Because to me, this is about the truth. Right.
00:42:57.880And it's not about exonerating yourselves because you're under a cloud of suspicion.
00:43:01.320But we want to know who killed Charlie because nobody believes that Tyler Robinson, you know, had these military tactics and is jumping around, leaping around like Spider-Man.
00:43:09.820nobody believes that nobody i mean the tyler robertson stuff seems like a distraction maybe
00:43:13.820he was a patsy maybe he was a shooter maybe maybe he charlie did get shot but all of it seems like
00:43:18.060a distraction what about the the particles of what looks like a road mike that were found in the back
00:43:24.620of on the floor of the truck that charlie was carried in that's that's definitely you know
00:43:29.100coming up here on this list of of uh indisputable red flags that i have uh constructed the red
00:43:34.300flags then let's move on from the charger what's next in line so we have the ballistics that don't
00:43:38.780match to the ballistics we've got four out of five fragments that couldn't make it to the lab for
00:43:43.180whatever reason we have we had in the preliminary hearing a technician say that she only received
00:43:47.740four or one out of the five four out of the five could not be used and the one fragment that they
00:43:52.460received didn't match the diameter of a 30 odd six bullet at all i mean so you know we're now
00:43:59.980seeing further evidence that whatever was found from his body whether it was a fragment from a
00:44:04.700a bullet or something else, it does not seem like it came from a 30-odd-six bullet.
00:44:10.220The screwdriver, that's another weird thing. So we had during the preliminary hearing,
00:44:16.120during the, yeah, the preliminary hearing, we had officer Christopher Bagley testify that his
00:44:23.760body cam died. Now let's talk about this body cam for a second. The body cam that he was using is
00:44:28.880an Axon Model 4 body cam. Axon Model 4 body cams, when on a full life of battery, are supposed to
00:44:36.460be good for a whole shift. For 12 to 14 hours, they're supposed to be fully, they're supposed
00:44:43.460to be able to record the entire time. Now, these things are rigorously tested because officers
00:44:48.640sometimes get caught up in crime scenes, sometimes traffic stops that lead to a warrant and they've
00:44:52.720got to tell the vehicle. Imagine if all these body cams throughout the whole country just kept
00:44:56.120dying on officers well then they would go find another contractor that can provide them you know
00:45:00.080reliable equipment and something about law enforcement that law enforcement officers are
00:45:05.360very familiar with is that when you are off duty you put your body cam back in the dock and it's
00:45:10.700charging for the next shift and they rotate these cameras so it's not like another officer's grabbing
00:45:15.120a body cam that's just been used for a whole shift that's just not the case and typically
00:45:19.540these body cams are assigned to specific officers that way if they're involved in a case exactly
00:45:25.400I found it to be very interesting because Officer Bagley, when he took the stand during
00:45:31.140that preliminary hearing and said that his body cam died after just a half an hour of
00:45:35.080recording, 90 minutes into a shift, but a half an hour of recording, I think it was
00:45:38.64027 minutes, every single law enforcement officer in the country knew he was lying.
00:45:52.920Furthermore, if it's in the process of recording on your chest and you're running 10% or lower, you're on a low battery, it's warning you with vibrations, with red flashing lights, and it still has about an hour and a half of recording time left on it at 10%, right?
01:08:57.080Or there's something that they don't want to come out and they are running a kind of operation, something big is going on behind the scenes.
01:09:05.260The deep state could have some kind of – there could be a national security concern.
01:09:09.580There could be anything going on that we're unaware of.
01:09:13.280Especially if there's foreign intervention going on.
01:09:16.520You know, and the last thing I'll say, too, for the audience is, you know, a lot of people look at this case and say, how can there be patsies?
01:09:22.800Is this really how the government operates?
01:09:25.840I'd just like to remind your audience that this happens every day on a local and federal level.
01:09:31.180It happens every day all over the world.
01:09:33.400If you've ever watched a police movie, especially involving drug cartels and mafias and things like that,
01:09:39.380there's a little something that the police utilize to their advantage to bring down an organization.
01:09:44.680If let's say, for example, you get a guy on a traffic stop and he's got some petty warrants out for theft, for carjacking, something like that.
01:09:54.980this person is taken into custody. And if the police know that this person has an association
01:10:02.800with people that are, you know, of a higher interest to the police, what they will do is
01:10:08.760oftentimes offer them a deal. This is what's called a confidential informant. You know,
01:10:13.020whenever you deal with the mafia, whenever you look into it, like a lot of these mafia movies
01:10:17.020are just real accounts of what happened. These mafias and drug cartels are brought down by some
01:10:22.060their own guys they get caught up in something that they're not supposed to be caught up in0.98
01:10:25.660they're facing a lengthy prison sentence so what the police do is they say hey look you've got a
01:10:29.980couple options here you can go to prison for the next 25 to 50 years or you can work with us for
01:10:36.620a couple minutes a week you know just give us some information it doesn't have to be every
01:10:39.900we're not going to bother you too much you just let us know what you know what information you
01:10:43.340can and of course the person's it sounds great you know you don't have to go to prison you can
01:10:47.420just you can it's essentially you know that will just drop the charges maybe give you disorderly
01:10:51.980conduct something with probation nothing big but in exchange you're gonna have to work with the
01:10:56.460police you're gonna have to cooperate otherwise they'll bring those charges back but that spirals
01:11:00.940sometimes that turns into something much bigger as time goes on because what the confidential
01:11:05.660informants finds themselves in is a situation that gets bigger and snowballs and they can't
01:11:11.900say no at that point you know and that's oftentimes when the mafia or or the drug cartel they smell a
01:11:17.580rat they know somebody's working with them and a lot of these movies a lot of these stories that
01:11:21.420we've heard a lot of it's based on real life i mean this is exactly how they make movies they
01:11:25.500it's all inspired by actual stuff that has that's happened so you know they they know that somebody's
01:11:30.060working with the police and when they confront them oh yeah no i just gave them you know fake
01:11:33.900information but still they they can't trust them anymore but in intel operations on a larger
01:11:40.380federal scale it's a little bit more nuanced than that you get someone who's involved in federal
01:11:46.300crimes and if we're thinking about what federal crimes take place on the internet i'm sure the
01:11:51.020audience can probably fill in the blank there so you know you're caught up looking at things that
01:11:55.500you shouldn't be looking at you're caught up uh you know uh exchanging messages that you shouldn't
01:11:59.500be exchanging next thing you know you're in interrogation room and you're being asked to
01:12:03.740you know just just give them some information what's happening on the dark corners of the web
01:12:08.220you know just just let us know and of course they they get the other guys saying of course i'll let
01:12:12.220you know whatever as long as i don't have to go to jail next thing you're being told hey show up
01:12:17.100in orem utah on this day and just bring your your dad's uh rifle and just just give it to one of our
01:12:22.380guys and we'll take care of it from there no no problem just we're just we're just collecting these
01:12:26.140uh you know old guns that don't have serial numbers we just want to get them off the street
01:12:29.820so just bring that gun over and just be in utah at this time and then you can go have a steak and
01:12:33.340get back home next thing you know you're all over tv and you've got a guy calling your father saying
01:12:38.220hey unless you want the swat team at your your house you'll bring your son in and uh we're just
01:12:43.260going to clear up a few things you know it's no big deal we're just going to clear up a few things
01:12:46.540So bring your son in. Let's have a conversation. I'm sure he didn't do it. We just want to make sure, since he was in Orem, Utah that day, we just want to make sure he had no involvement. And next thing you know, you've got your attorneys that were Googled from Israel defending you.
01:12:59.960the summary of the story is never trust the government which is the best advice i can give
01:13:05.620on this matter and pray for the souls of the dearly departed including charlie kirk uh justin
01:13:11.120i wanted to get you on because i love candace i really do but she can spend a whole series talking
01:13:16.340about what you managed to talk about in an hour so i wanted to get all i wanted to get all the
01:13:20.240red flags out there let our audience be able to make their own minds up for themselves so thank
01:13:23.900you for kind of going through it with us and i know you've got your own content that people can
01:13:28.920look at where can people find you uh i'm on every platform x instagram facebook rumble youtube uh
01:13:35.980just find me at my first and last name justin kanda i also have an alternate channel called
01:13:40.460bethlehem blood where we're collaborating with some other christians in the holy land to bring
01:13:44.000forth sort of the updates of what's been going on over there thank you father for having me it's
01:13:48.460been a pleasure to be on your show and uh hopefully we can touch base as this uh this case evolves
01:13:53.140there's a lot of corners that are going to be turned in this case absolutely justin kanda thank
01:13:57.440you very much god bless thank you father thank you for watching another episode of the next crusade
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