The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 01, 2026


PREVIEW: Brokenomics | The Right Wing Future with Ann Coulter


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00:00:00.000 Well, hello and welcome to this special interview with Anne Coulter,
00:00:03.940 a firebrand political commentator and New York Times best-selling author.
00:00:08.000 Anne, thank you so much for coming in.
00:00:09.700 Great to be here, especially I see the back of your computer there.
00:00:13.380 Restore.
00:00:13.900 Well, we should come to that, shouldn't we?
00:00:15.800 You're even more hardcore than reform.
00:00:19.140 Well, listen, why not? Let's start there.
00:00:20.680 What do you see when you look at British politics?
00:00:22.720 Are you impressed by any of the figures you see here?
00:00:26.100 I think you should go to a two-party system.
00:00:28.460 Right. Which two?
00:00:30.000 um probably um restore and reform okay yeah no i i would certainly like that yeah the the the
00:00:36.980 logic of first pass the post does so i can train the system it may be that you just have more well
00:00:43.080 until recently more far left left people at least historically than the u.s did i mean obviously
00:00:50.580 that's changed recently but a weird thing about europe including england has always been that
00:00:56.160 your unions tended toward communism yes I mean he's always confused me because we've got oil
00:01:03.260 and communists here so I'm kind of wondering why we haven't been invaded yet I mean like
00:01:07.160 I keep advancing that idea but no one's taken me up on it so far
00:01:11.360 and tell me you were probably one of the first people to see potential in Trump you were very
00:01:19.320 early on yes and and I mean you can speak for yourself as to what you saw but I'm wondering
00:01:23.160 if it's perhaps insurgent energy.
00:01:25.160 And I'm wondering if whatever it was that you saw,
00:01:28.800 is that what you got?
00:01:30.600 Well, it was 100% immigration.
00:01:33.160 He was, I kept, I had just put out the book,
00:01:35.860 Adios America.
00:01:37.940 And I was FedExing, dropping off copies
00:01:41.760 for these Koch brothers,
00:01:44.080 their big Republican donors.
00:01:46.020 Chris Christie, he was running for president that year.
00:01:48.180 Mitt Romney, I'd preferred him the year before.
00:01:50.060 I even like Post-it noted,
00:01:51.360 You only need to read these crucial chapters. And, you know, they just all of the Republican Party was, we love immigrants. And let me tell you about my immigrant grandparents. I always love that part of the debate. Let me tell you about my colonial ancestors who came here in 1840. You interloper recent immigrants.
00:02:14.240 Anyway, Trump asked me for a copy of the book after my very first interview, which was like a day before the book came out. 1.00
00:02:22.260 And then he gave that speech, which is the famous escalator speech, which is a somewhat more aggressive version of my book. 1.00
00:02:31.900 I mean, one of the things I talked about in Adios America, I couldn't cover all of the massive crimes being committed by recent immigrants. 1.00
00:02:40.600 And so I concentrated on the ones I mean, one of the things I guess you guys are finding out is that different cultures specialize in different kinds of crimes. 1.00
00:02:50.300 And this great advantage America used to have. I think you guys had it, too, is that our criminals were dumb, so it was easy to catch them. 0.98
00:02:59.400 Oh, no, not not anymore. Now we're getting we're getting these, you know, high IQ Romanian and Indian fraudsters and credit card schemes. 1.00
00:03:08.900 And in any event, the real problem for the U.S. are the Latin American countries to our south, and one of their specialties is child rape. So there's a lot about that in Adios America. And coincidentally, that was the spiciest part of his opening speech. 0.99
00:03:25.060 Here as well, yeah. 1.00
00:03:26.620 Yeah.
00:03:27.200 I mean, I think what you're pointing to
00:03:29.300 is that our societies used to be high-trust societies
00:03:31.760 where actually if you were a smart, capable individual,
00:03:35.660 you could do quite well in the system.
00:03:37.840 And the system sort of assumes, therefore,
00:03:40.640 that if people were sufficiently integrated,
00:03:42.440 they would follow the same channel,
00:03:44.000 not that they could use ethnic networks
00:03:46.020 to game the system entirely.
00:03:48.820 Yeah, it appears to be happening in the US as well.
00:03:50.800 So I take it that you would reject the notion that the U.S. is a propositional nation.
00:03:59.960 No, it's it's utter madness. And by the way, we can kind of blame you guys for that.
00:04:07.200 uh the the reason it it in theory i mean even had a germ of an idea was every revolution up until
00:04:18.420 the american revolution was based on different groups of people one group was oppressing another
00:04:23.960 group and okay we've had it we're going to take over now but they were you know ethnic groups
00:04:28.920 racial groups whereas americans um called themselves english uh
00:04:36.640 during paul revere's ride somebody came and um you know they're yelling waking waking everybody
00:04:44.840 up wake everybody up the british are coming the british are coming yeah all the founding fathers
00:04:48.360 called themselves either english or yes german or something the guy yelled down i don't know
00:04:54.280 whose house it was um you know don't yell that way this is an englishman's house so they all called
00:05:01.560 themselves english so what was the theory that's where the idea came from well yes we're genetically
00:05:07.800 identical we have the same language the same religion we look the same it wasn't even i mean
00:05:13.160 we didn't even have a lot of if we had any um germans then we had some irish the protestants
00:05:18.920 some French, the Protestants. So you have identical genetic people. So our difference is going to be
00:05:26.600 we're not going to have a king. So this is the idea that there's sort of a creed that set us
00:05:31.080 apart, but still it was supposed to be British people. Yes. And when sort of people see themselves
00:05:39.620 in the same tribe, they can, you know, I think what the Anglo people did is they built a society
00:05:45.840 where they rewarded competence over kin
00:05:48.020 because actually they were in a broadly a kin group.
00:05:51.640 Yes.
00:05:52.220 But I don't think the rest of the world has learned that lesson.
00:05:55.460 Not at all.
00:05:56.640 It's a huge problem. 0.95
00:05:59.040 That's one of the great things about, well, Americans,
00:06:03.620 by which I mean Americans.
00:06:07.040 We hate our families.
00:06:10.480 It's very hard to create a network. 1.00
00:06:15.360 I mean, the mob was our first, the Italian immigrants brought us organized crime for the first time. And now, man, you see it, you see it throughout all of these ethnic groups. But that isn't the natural. I mean, famously, I mentioned this in Adios America, the Rosenbergs who were spying on the U.S. and giving the secrets for the nukes to to the Soviet Union. 1.00
00:06:37.040 um the Rosenbergs were turned in by Ethel Rosenberg's brother Stephen I think it was
00:06:43.340 Stephen Greenglass makes it a lot easier to bust up you know criminal networks when it's not all
00:06:51.520 oh no he's my brother-in-law yes yes um why is it do you think that people who come in like like
00:07:00.920 Trump with this sort of insurgent energy so often end up getting captured by the system itself
00:07:06.040 it's very sad you're yeah you're boris johnson and yes and trump had a lot in common in that way
00:07:13.420 both such utter utter disappointments um and i know i'm not supposed to say that about trump
00:07:20.580 because i i mean i understand that the deep state is so vicious to him people you want to defend
00:07:26.280 someone who's being unfairly attacked and of course he has been since since he came down the
00:07:32.220 escalator but um he he started off a little bit better second term um first term look it's over
00:07:40.180 now water under the bridge he just totally blew off immigration uh steve fired steve bannon very
00:07:46.460 quickly our big accomplishments i distinctly remember watching this i hope this american
00:07:51.300 politics isn't so boring for your audience but our first midterm elections i'm watching the
00:07:56.180 conservative news networks trying to figure out what are you guys bragging about you had two years
00:08:02.280 with a republican house a republican senate a republican president who came in on massively
00:08:08.420 changing immigration and the fact that no other republican running for president agreed with him
00:08:13.120 on that um i wrote about it in trump we trust i read through all of their debates and it was just
00:08:18.120 enraging the way republicans used to talk about immigration george bush the previous president
00:08:22.820 was the worst um the fact that he won when the polls were saying 90 new york times poll the day
00:08:30.660 of the election was 89 hillary was likely to win um by the way i did a lot of british media that
00:08:36.660 night because after brexit you guys kind of had an inkling that there might be an upset so after
00:08:41.700 that you would think the republican party you know it's got to be pedal to the metal we got to fund
00:08:46.020 that wall let's start the deportations oh no no we have to have tax cuts again tax cuts half the 0.98
00:08:52.340 the same agenda taxes um it was utterly moronic and so what were they bragging about before the 0.87
00:08:58.260 midterm elections two years in we moved the embassy it's all about israel yes i mean i
00:09:07.620 suppose that came back with the vengeance in the in the second term but i mean in the first time
00:09:11.880 there were things to like for example no new wars i quite like that aspect of it no new what
00:09:16.560 No new wars.
00:09:18.080 Walls? 0.53
00:09:19.040 Wars.
00:09:20.060 Wars, sorry.
00:09:22.760 Yes. 0.99
00:09:23.120 Particularly Middle Eastern ones. 1.00
00:09:24.400 Yes, that was definitely a high point.
00:09:28.000 And that was quite a strong sort of re-election
00:09:31.220 for all three of the elections that he won.
00:09:35.160 The no new wars thing did sort of hold up quite well.
00:09:38.560 But that seems to have gone by the wayside as well.
00:09:41.340 Why did that happen, do you think?
00:09:44.940 Um...
00:09:46.360 And it's really depressing. It's really awful. It's going to destroy the Trump presidency and possibly the country because it's going to be a wipeout in the midterm elections. It's an absolute disaster.
00:09:58.580 um trump listens to netanyahu miriam adelson and rupert murdoch and they wanted war uh apparently
00:10:12.220 although i think a little of this is oh my gosh this war is a disaster let's let's call up the
00:10:16.960 new york times and say we were against it i think the only member of the administration who was
00:10:21.260 really against it was jd vance that certainly seems to be i mean he was a genuine anti-war
00:10:28.000 um person and and and and on secretly recorded conversations after the first bombing of iran
00:10:34.220 um there was i think the defense secretary um a few other underlings on foreign policy
00:10:40.880 rubio and vance were on a phone call and the whole whole phone call leaks because a journalist
00:10:46.000 was on the phone call um and taped the whole thing and the only one saying um doesn't this
00:10:52.660 go against the no more no new wars we're not going to meddle it up shouldn't we get back to
00:10:57.480 the only one was jd vance so now people like rubio our defense secretary are calling into
00:11:03.500 the new york times saying oh i advised against it well maybe but usually potential advance
00:11:08.160 yes i mean we'll see what happens but it's it's a binary choice so so my i mean who's who's better
00:11:18.220 I think his heart is MAGA. I think he's a little bit too socialist on some stuff. A lot of the newfound populists confuse populism with socialism. But other than that, I think he's absolutely MAGA, make America great again.
00:11:36.660 And I think he's absolutely concentrating on the left behind Americans, as we call them, because he comes from the left behind Americans.
00:11:44.300 He knows how they've been ignored and stepped on.
00:11:46.920 So I think his heart is absolutely there.
00:11:48.720 He has a very high IQ, which, by the way, is such an exciting surprise if you're a Republican.
00:11:55.200 Well, Republicans in general or Republican politicians?
00:11:58.340 Oh, my gosh.
00:11:59.260 No, Republican politicians. 1.00
00:12:01.680 And even if they aren't abject morons, they can't talk. 1.00
00:12:05.720 like i mean i don't think the first bush was a moron i think the second bush was a moron um i 1.00
00:12:13.040 think the first bush was dangerously sharp yeah probably that's probably a better way of putting 0.98
00:12:18.060 it but neither of them could talk well yes vance has a high iq and he's really good in hostile
00:12:25.340 interviews which is any media interview there's so much fun to watch uh and he's fantastic in a
00:12:32.280 debate he's not embodying the sort of anglo tradition in his own family unit though does
00:12:37.000 that bother you at all well put well it's not my favorite thing um but again it's a binary choice
00:12:48.000 you know his wife was um just gave birth to another third or fourth child um they're really 0.96
00:12:53.800 into this natalism these catholics uh and uh when he announced the pregnancy
00:12:59.820 i was about to tweet because he's named he's given his kids indian names one of them is
00:13:07.880 actually named vivek oh okay so i almost tweeted out um you know to make up for vivek you should
00:13:18.640 name this one clam and my finger hovered over post and i thought okay screw it i'm not gonna
00:13:24.620 You showed restraints on that one.
00:13:26.820 Yeah, so don't let people tell you I don't show restraint.
00:13:30.500 I thought that was true.
00:13:32.100 I mean, you say it's a binary choice,
00:13:33.880 but of course you do have quite a strong sort of pre-stage to that,
00:13:39.180 your sort of primary stage when you're discussing the various candidates.
00:13:43.220 But you've been talking as if you see sort of J.D. Vance
00:13:46.360 as the sort of heir apparent.
00:13:47.920 Is that true?
00:13:49.420 I hope so.
00:13:50.280 I think so.
00:13:52.680 And you're a big country.
00:13:53.460 I mean, you've got lots of talent to pick from, hopefully.
00:13:58.400 When I say a binary choice, I mean, in this case, in the primary,
00:14:02.180 of course, it can be anyone.
00:14:04.120 But my question is, who else?
00:14:07.620 And I don't see any other who else's I like.
00:14:11.700 Maybe one will come along, but I can't think of one.
00:14:16.500 I loathe Rubio.
00:14:19.140 Okay, why is that?
00:14:20.620 Well, I just wrote, I don't know, a month or two ago,
00:14:23.460 in the american spectator um an article covering rubio's foreign policy every single foreign
00:14:31.180 policy idea he has ever had is is a complete disaster the opposite of what we and provably
00:14:37.180 standard neocon oh you bet and and like trump that wasn't what he ran on from the state of
00:14:44.860 florida his very first his very first move when he got to the united states senate um was to start
00:14:52.300 a petition demanding the removal of Muammar Gaddafi, who was at that point George Bush's 0.92
00:15:00.980 bitch because of the Iraq war, which I supported and I would still support. 0.96
00:15:06.600 But that so terrified other strongmen in the region. 0.99
00:15:12.200 I don't know if you remember this, although I think it came from a British official.
00:15:16.680 Muammar Gaddafi went to some Brit and said, is he going to attack us next?
00:15:22.300 and to prevent that eventuality he invited in the weapons inspectors they could come in whenever they
00:15:27.500 wanted to he finally paid back americans multiple millions of dollars for terrorist attacks in the
00:15:33.260 past and as as no american knows but i would hope every european knows it was qaddafi was holding
00:15:41.180 back the hordes coming in to the uk he would demand payments from i think it was italy and
00:15:47.500 And France, we're paying him. 0.91
00:15:49.080 You can just say, pay me millions of dollars or all of Africa is going to be here overnight. 0.79
00:15:52.340 Well, speaking of dollars, he did also flirt with moving away from the dollar.
00:15:55.920 And I've always wondered if that was the key element, because obviously America is still a very powerful country, no matter what the rise of China may indicate for the future.
00:16:05.820 But it's not really your aircraft carriers that give you the strength.
00:16:09.860 It's a dollar.
00:16:10.580 Yes.
00:16:11.880 I guess, again, I'd say, well, maybe not binary, but who else?
00:16:17.500 I hope, I mean, I guess I hope that remains the same. But I mean, I think the Iran war has really hurt our standing. I mean, the Chinese premier taunted Trump with this when Trump visited, I don't know, four or five months ago, saying it was a Suez moment. 0.98
00:16:39.060 It feels that way. Yeah.
00:16:40.220 Yep. 0.98
00:16:41.140 Another waterway is going to lead to the downfall of another perceived empire. 0.60
00:16:45.280 but the only thing i'd question is is china the one are they really going to take over from us 0.54
00:16:52.700 or is i mean maybe it's just going to be a globe of mediocrity maybe there will be no
00:16:57.160 outstanding country there will be no one to save people from tsunamis and warlords there will be
00:17:01.920 no one inventing anything maybe we'll just enter a thousand years of darkness well i mean there
00:17:07.660 doesn't need to be a global hegemon there can just be regional powers i wish that doesn't
00:17:13.100 alarm you so much if america because it has had a series of unfortunate incidents i mean the
00:17:20.320 withdrawal from afghanistan was not as dignified as perhaps it could be in exerting the power
00:17:24.500 in various proxy wars you know ukraine and whatever is also not going strong and i would
00:17:29.760 suggest that i i'm sure america could defeat iran but it is a fortress made out of mountains and
00:17:38.000 the body count would be rather high getting it done luckily that is not apparently in the in the
00:17:44.940 yeah list of options for trump there's no way he's going to send ground forces um well is victory in
00:17:50.740 his list of options then because if you start taking off there are no good options now and it
00:17:56.000 is slowly penetrating that thick skull of his um at a lovely church in london this week and they
00:18:04.820 have disputation sometimes um you know separate from the church service and one of them was they
00:18:11.020 were going to have two people arguing on each side for the proposition was world war ii the last
00:18:17.140 just war um and other than iran or rather iraq and afghanistan i would completely support that
00:18:25.960 proposition i think every other war has just led to it smuggles in certain assumptions i'm not sure
00:18:31.420 i'd naturally agree with um which one iraq and no the the world war ii was entirely just i mean
00:18:38.400 there was certainly just element to it but um we live in the era of post-world war ii propaganda
00:18:46.300 yes which has given us the sort of post-war liberal settlement which has given us mass
00:18:52.020 immigration and very weak right-wing politicians um i agree with your point that there's just
00:19:00.140 a little too much world war ii worshiping at some point it gets cloying and annoying and by the way
00:19:06.400 i would say the same thing i hit i hit my limit on ronald reagan worship a long time ago um you
00:19:13.380 gotta move on guys uh but putting aside the the greatest generation the whole thing um which you
00:19:23.620 know they're fine they're good but can you can you ever talk about anything else has anyone ever done
00:19:28.780 anything else good um i think i think the blame for the immigration crisis as uh peter brimelow
00:19:37.720 coined the the expression it's hitler's revenge now because because hitler although that guy um
00:19:46.040 what's his name your home i'm mispronouncing this hozoni please look it up and pronounce his name
00:19:52.520 correctly i'm terrible at pronunciations and i'm yeah this one i'm never gonna get but he wrote a
00:19:57.560 book i think it's called in defense of nationalism and he makes the great point that nationalism
00:20:04.040 that it isn't people have misunderstood um because the holocaust was discriminatory but
00:20:10.540 it was a little more than discriminatory it's like that isn't the problem but the whole master
00:20:15.760 race thing we may never ever ever discriminate and therefore you have to let the entire third 1.00
00:20:21.280 world move to your country and steal from you and consume all your services um people have also 0.65
00:20:26.900 used it to attack the rise of nazi germany to attack nationalism and hozoni whose name i'm
00:20:33.860 mispronouncing um i'll look it up on the break i know you don't have commercial breaks if you
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