The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 26, 2026


PREVIEW: Chronicles #65 | Sharpe's Tiger with Beau & Samson: Part II

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00:00:18.000 So Sharp gets to his court-martial, right, so Sharp gets to the court-martial, and he's
00:00:24.000 expecting Lieutenant Lawford to be his defense, but Lawford isn't there. Lawford was very
00:00:31.200 unceremoniously told that he had to go off and meet with General Harris. And so Sharp's defense
00:00:40.040 lawyer is just not there. And this basically makes the entire thing fall into, yeah, there's got this
00:00:46.300 Captain Fillmore to replace him. And for me, the entire thing just reminded me of the courtroom
00:00:52.420 scene in Blackadder Goes Forth, where it's just like, you're dead, mate. You're just dead. It's
00:00:57.740 a foregone conclusion. Morris hates you. You've got Major John Shee as well, this gentlemanly
00:01:05.920 Irishman who's drunk most of the time, and he just wants to get it all over with so he can go
00:01:12.340 back to drinking. I mean, it really is as trivial as that. And Sharp finds himself with no defense, 0.99
00:01:18.880 sentenced to 2,000 flogs of the lash, which is a death sentence.
00:01:27.580 It does make me think that Blackadder scene is very much like that.
00:01:32.120 Your defence lawyer says he's absolutely guilty of nothing more
00:01:37.840 than trying to do the right thing.
00:01:40.660 Before we get to the matter of sentencing the deceased,
00:01:43.580 I mean the defence.
00:01:45.020 There's 2,000 lashes
00:01:49.920 So the real history of it
00:01:52.200 Is that you could never be sentenced to more than 1,200 lashes
00:01:56.340 That was the most
00:01:57.320 Still an absurd amount
00:01:59.100 Yeah, so the thing is
00:02:00.340 When you take the whip
00:02:04.120 If it's done right, it will cut you
00:02:07.020 It cuts you
00:02:08.400 And in the late 18th century in India
00:02:12.080 Or anywhere, but in India 0.59
00:02:13.620 Any open cut 0.99
00:02:15.340 One tiny little cut
00:02:16.920 A nick from a thorn
00:02:19.640 Could get infected and you die
00:02:21.180 So any cut could kill you
00:02:22.900 One lash could be a death sentence 0.97
00:02:25.940 50 lashes
00:02:27.340 Is real bad
00:02:29.820 100, 200 lashes
00:02:31.820 Is probably something close to a death sentence
00:02:34.300 However
00:02:35.600 There is one example
00:02:37.520 In real life
00:02:39.460 Of a sergeant
00:02:41.140 being uh sentenced to 700 lashes and surviving but that was extremely extremely rare uh there's
00:02:49.940 something like only a few dozen or maybe 50 guys ever were sentenced to 1200 lashes built like a
00:02:55.260 bull yeah it's massive apparently a massive massive dude anyway uh only a few handful of
00:03:00.200 guys were ever sentenced to 1200 lashes but it would that's death and um if you pass out or the
00:03:07.940 surgeon decides you can't take anymore they might stop for a while or even for the day but you come
00:03:12.800 back later and receive the rest of them and if you die they keep lashing your dead body until all the
00:03:19.400 lashes are done now that's really that's medieval as barbaric yeah it's really but it's not that
00:03:26.940 long ago right it's the late 18th century or they kept doing it into the early 19th century
00:03:30.240 And Wellesley himself was a big fan of flogging, so for Sharp to be sentenced to 2,000 is ridiculous on a couple of levels, but it's a death sentence. 0.53
00:03:44.240 It would absolutely be a death sentence. 0.65
00:03:46.240 And they mean for it to be so. They mean for Sharp to not walk away from this.
00:03:50.240 Yeah. And even as they're... I can't remember, but one of his men just, you know, getting Sharp to drink as much alcohol as he can to just get him drunk as anything.
00:04:01.240 It's like Sharp's just in his head going, don't feel any different. Just don't. I'm not even slightly drunk.
00:04:07.240 I'm just so focused on what's ahead of me that my mind can't focus on anything else apart from the, you know, torture that's going to be going ahead.
00:04:17.240 ahead. And they make drummer boys do it, don't they? Yes. Probably about 15 or 16. But they
00:04:22.200 make them do it as hard as they can. And Obadiah purposely picks out the tallest and strongest
00:04:29.080 looking drummer boys out of the selection. Probably drum boys would always carry a whip
00:04:33.160 in there, like have a sack sort of thing. Yeah. And if the drum boy isn't doing it hard enough,
00:04:38.120 they get they get in trouble. They'll be at least chewed out in front of everyone. So
00:04:43.720 So, again, I just want to pause on it for a moment.
00:04:49.140 The brutality of it, you're going to get a 16-year-old boy
00:04:53.680 to whip another man to death in front of an entire regiment of men.
00:04:59.340 And if he doesn't go as hard as he can, he's in trouble.
00:05:03.180 This is really, really quite barbaric,
00:05:05.720 really quite sort of medieval ancient world stuff. 0.93
00:05:10.020 Although I guess that's the point. 0.99
00:05:11.880 It's to keep these criminals and scumbags who make up the ranks 0.98
00:05:16.840 and the privates of the British Army in line so that, yeah, 0.99
00:05:20.640 if you break the law or break the code or talk back to a senior officer even,
00:05:27.360 lashes. 0.83
00:05:27.920 Quite right, Sir Arthur, quite right.
00:05:29.680 Usually hundreds and hundreds of lashes would be reserved
00:05:33.780 for trying to desert striking an officer or embezzlement,
00:05:39.480 something really quite bad.
00:05:41.880 Says so in the scriptures.
00:05:43.880 Says so in the scriptures!
00:05:45.880 But then, by a stroke of absolute mercy, after about 202 lashes...
00:05:52.880 I mean, sharp by this point, he cannot hold on for much longer.
00:05:56.880 It says his ribs are exposed on his back.
00:05:58.880 So it's like he's whipping up, he's making a pulp of his back.
00:06:03.880 I mean, it's really graphic.
00:06:05.880 I mean, Cornwell's writing is tremendously graphic.
00:06:08.880 But the whole thing is stopped by Arthur Wellesley himself, by Wellington, who is looking quite
00:06:20.240 livid about the entire thing, and basically says, you know, Mr. Sharp, can you hear me?
00:06:28.240 And it's like, yes, and everything, absolutely at death's door, and it says, right, I want
00:06:32.840 says to a doctor, I want this man able to have his wits within the hour, and then I want him sent to General Harris's tent. And so doctor performs a minor miracle, though he's a very terrible doctor, is a note that's made. I mean, throughout the beating as well. It's like, you know, the whole point is that the doctor should be able to say, oh, that's too much. You've killed him. And he just doesn't throughout the whole thing. He's really neglectful of the wounded and the patient.
00:07:02.720 But anyway, Sharpe goes to the tent, and this is where he finds, first of all, what Lawford was
00:07:08.800 dragged away for when he was supposed to be defending Sharpe at the trial. And that is the
00:07:14.880 fact that Colonel McCandless, who has been taken prisoner and now finds himself in Syringapotam,
00:07:22.640 is the uncle of Lieutenant Lawford. And they need Lawford. They need him back. And if you can't
00:07:31.120 rescue Lawford, sorry, if you can't rescue McCandless, we at least need to know what
00:07:36.520 he knew, what intelligence he gathered before he was taken away.
00:07:42.180 And so this becomes an espionage mission and an escape attempt to try and get McCandless
00:07:48.000 out.
00:07:49.400 And they feel, I mean, first of all, they say, well, on the one hand, we have a problem because
00:07:55.540 a white man going in there is going to look suspicious and it's going to draw a lot of 0.88
00:08:01.580 attention but also we can't trust it to a sepoi so we need to send someone in and so we're thinking 1.00
00:08:09.940 of sending lawford in but lawford is very very green and he doesn't have the experience and
00:08:17.200 it's lawford who says i will go it i will only go in if you allow me to take richard sharp as well
00:08:23.840 And so George Harris says, right, we'll say that, you know, we shortened your sentence of lashes because of your heroics in battle, right, whatever.
00:08:35.460 But Wellington, sorry, Wellesley, Wellesley's livid, absolutely livid that these lashings were stopped.
00:08:42.080 like he's just really and this was one of the things that i was so surprised like joyfully
00:08:49.100 surprised about the way that cornwell writes the beginning of that relationship between sharp and
00:08:55.820 wellesley when you know where it's going to go and to see how much wellesley resents sharp
00:09:02.160 from the first moment he meets him is such a brilliant turn so the bit from this passage that
00:09:09.800 I found most humorous was
00:09:12.160 when General Baird
00:09:13.960 asks him, have you ever thought
00:09:16.000 about deserting, Sharp?
00:09:18.320 And Sharp is just, me, sir?
00:09:21.240 Not me, sir.
00:09:22.420 Never crossed my mind.
00:09:25.320 Wellesley's just
00:09:26.040 sitting there in abject disgust.
00:09:28.820 The fact that Baird is even
00:09:30.100 trying to be humorous and friendly.
00:09:31.980 Because obviously they all know everyone's, all the privates
00:09:34.160 are thinking about deserting.
00:09:35.680 And Baird replies back
00:09:38.020 with
00:09:38.360 we need a good
00:09:42.360 lie for this particular service
00:09:43.940 so maybe you're an excellent choice
00:09:45.600 so they see through it straight away but
00:09:47.960 Baird knows I think
00:09:50.220 this is probably the right man for the job
00:09:52.000 even with Wellington
00:09:54.220 turning away in
00:09:56.220 disgust. Well there's a lot of resentment between
00:09:58.360 the two. Sorry go on Bo.
00:09:59.900 I would say it's one of the
00:10:01.240 I mean Bernard Cornwall's a brilliant writer
00:10:03.760 he's brilliant at making his exposition
00:10:06.320 fluid
00:10:08.040 is not clunky he's a master of that he's a master of storytelling uh but one of the few things if
00:10:15.440 you're going to point out one of the few things in this book where i was like really wait how does
00:10:20.480 that work doesn't really make sense uh it's just where okay lawford's going to be sent behind enemy
00:10:26.440 lines on some sort of almost suicide mission into syringa bataan to try and see if mccandis
00:10:30.200 his uncle is still alive and if not at least get some of the information of what he might have had
00:10:34.040 and he said, okay, Lawford is only prepared to do it
00:10:38.260 if he's accompanied by the badass,
00:10:41.400 the well-known badass Richard Sharp.
00:10:44.640 Okay.
00:10:45.880 Why is that, though?
00:10:47.280 How is Sharp a badass?
00:10:48.560 I thought he'd only ever seen, like, one action before.
00:10:50.720 I thought he was only 22.
00:10:53.580 Why does Lawford think Sharp is such a badass?
00:10:57.740 Why is he insisting on Sharp?
00:11:00.940 That's not explained.
00:11:01.880 It's just like Lawford's got a bro crush on him.
00:11:05.160 It's sort of left at that.
00:11:07.160 I think what it is, is that he sees a particular confidence in Sharp.
00:11:13.380 Okay, yeah, it's something like that.
00:11:14.800 I mean, I'm just trying to, you know, fill in the wax a bit.
00:11:18.580 And again, it's a pretty shitty criticism of mine
00:11:21.140 for such a brilliant writer as Bernard Cornwall.
00:11:24.700 That was one bit where I'm like, it just doesn't...
00:11:29.400 It does come a little out of nowhere.
00:11:31.500 Yeah, a little bit.
00:11:32.620 Why does Lawford love Sharp that much?
00:11:34.980 When Lawford defends him with the Flint incident,
00:11:38.180 that comes a bit out of nowhere as well.
00:11:41.220 But only if you have...
00:11:43.900 It is, at the end of the day,
00:11:46.380 Cornwell reverse engineering Sharp and Lawford's relationship
00:11:49.380 because they've had all that stuff before.
00:11:53.060 You have to start it somewhere.
00:11:56.100 I actually think I do agree.
00:11:57.580 It's probably one of the slightly weaker elements of the character.
00:12:00.240 And, of course, the whole thing in real life would be upset.
00:12:03.600 I would highly doubt that the top brass in the King's Army
00:12:09.120 and the East India Company in real life would be like,
00:12:12.180 yeah, we'll sign off on that.
00:12:13.460 A lieutenant and a private faking desertion.
00:12:16.780 When they walk off, it might even be Wells there.
00:12:20.500 Someone says, well, you'll never see them again.
00:12:23.020 It's obviously a suicidal thing.
00:12:25.120 Of course, it's not because it's Richard Sharp. 0.97
00:12:26.760 Yeah, damn right.
00:12:27.980 In real life, I don't think they probably would have done that in real life. 0.89
00:12:30.080 It's like, well, no
00:12:30.980 No, Shark would have died from either the whip wounds
00:12:34.160 Or an infection from the whip wounds
00:12:36.360 Yeah, maybe, yeah
00:12:37.620 Okay, so then
00:12:39.560 They're sent off
00:12:41.840 To go and 0.91
00:12:42.880 The idea is they'll pretend to be
00:12:45.980 Deserters and get deliberately 0.99
00:12:48.020 Caught by the Tipu's
00:12:50.080 Forces 0.97
00:12:50.500 And then hopefully taken inside 0.96
00:12:53.760 Seringa Batal
00:12:54.900 So they're not going to try and SAS style in the darkness
00:12:57.980 Of night, try and creep over the wall unseen
00:13:00.040 they're going to deliberately get captured. That's the plan.
00:13:04.040 Which is why it comes so naturally to Sharp when the role is thrust upon him.
00:13:09.040 He's like, oh, I've not been preparing for this mentally for months.
00:13:13.040 And they take Mary Bicker's staff with her, don't they?
00:13:17.040 Sharp doesn't ask permission. He just waits until they're on the way.
00:13:21.040 And it's like, oh, yeah, Mary's coming, by the way.
00:13:23.040 Which makes it even more unlikely.
00:13:26.040 Lawford's sort of standing there in a bit like, what is this? This isn't what we signed off upon.
00:13:31.580 Yeah, you sure about that? What are you bearing with? You sure about that?
00:13:35.400 But Sharp is sure, because the alternative is to leave her at the mercy of Hadeswell.
00:13:40.860 And she would be ruined if he were to leave.
00:13:44.200 So he's obviously going to take her along.
00:13:46.460 But at the same time as well, I agree with you maybe slightly that it's a bit of a haphazard way
00:13:54.580 to throw Lawford and Sharp together.
00:13:56.860 However, once they are together,
00:13:59.760 one of the things that I enjoyed most about this novel
00:14:02.560 is the dynamic between Sharp and Lawford
00:14:05.680 because they both...
00:14:09.120 Lawford is really envious of Sharp's natural gifts,
00:14:15.580 sort of the carefree confidence that Sharp has,
00:14:19.080 and it's obviously something Lawford really hopes to inculcate in himself as well.
00:14:24.580 all of the time, when it's the episode with the flint or whether it's him just standing in the tent
00:14:29.300 amongst the likes of Wellesley and Baird and the rest, it's like he's meek, he's sheepish, he's very
00:14:37.120 quiet and at the back. Lawford has grown up a very sheltered upbringing. He's had the exact
00:14:43.340 opposite of who Sharp is, who is a street gutter rat, who has murdered people, who has killed
00:14:50.660 people and lawford is none of that he has never got his hands dirty he's bought his commission
00:14:55.120 yes and his he's shocked at everything sharp is doing their entire trip to deserting um and all
00:15:02.500 of the things they do when they desert when they well we'll talk about that in a minute um it's
00:15:09.300 just every everything's a new experience for him it's honestly a credit to lawford's strength of
00:15:14.840 character that he doesn't just like completely break down of all the things he's suddenly being
00:15:19.680 forced to do. I think it's his confidence in that Sharp, and how Sharp helps him through
00:15:26.680 that, and helps him grow, is what makes that relationship so excellent.
00:15:31.080 Dick and Bill, two privates now. And that's the other thing as well, that Sharp says,
00:15:37.060 well, he's not going to be able to be an infantryman like me. You're never going to blag that.
00:15:41.920 He'll have to be a clerk, because he's got a gentleman's hands. He's not laboured with
00:15:47.100 his hands. His hands are still very clean and fresh and everything. So we'll have to say that
00:15:52.140 he's a clerk. And obviously, so Mary comes along as well. Eventually, they're captured by the
00:15:59.100 Sultan's men. And they're taken back to Syringa Patam. And they're obviously tied up. And Sharpe
00:16:07.100 fortunately gets another doctor to see to his wounds and heal him up a bit. But this is where
00:16:13.980 they're introduced to Colonel, I'm not quite sure how to pronounce it, Goudin, who has come over
00:16:23.900 direct from, by order of the Directorate from Paris, to help the Sultan prepare for this siege,
00:16:33.580 to do what he can to help the French cause against the British in the Kingdom of Mysore.
00:16:40.540 and he's great. He's just a great template for what a colonel is. Obviously he works with a much
00:16:46.860 smaller force, so he has a much more intimate relationship with the men who serve beneath him
00:16:52.540 than the regular colonel would, but he's gallant, he's courteous, he's patient, he is, he's incredibly
00:16:59.660 likeable. He's good. Yes, and he's good at what he does, very good at what he does, and he
00:17:06.220 He immediately sees, through Lawford's alibi, and he says,
00:17:13.700 well, you're far too gentlemanly to have been a private.
00:17:17.660 And Lawford, very quick on his feet, says, oh, well, my father was quite a rich man.
00:17:24.020 We're coming from a good family, but he was disgraced. He lost his fortune.
00:17:26.980 I got drunk, fell into a tavern, and ended up being that one in Sheffield
00:17:31.600 that Sharp told him to say, and I ended up here.
00:17:36.220 you know, and he buys it and Gudon buys it and Sharpe obviously is totally sold on the fact
00:17:43.260 that someone like Sharpe would desert and obviously this is only guaranteed more by
00:17:51.340 the severe wounds in Sharpe's back as well. Yeah, you probably would desert after that being done
00:17:57.180 to you. And also as well, I mean actually Gudon thinks it's barbaric. I don't know historically
00:18:03.420 the truth of it, though.
00:18:05.320 But at that point,
00:18:06.680 Gudon says,
00:18:07.260 oh, yeah, we don't flog.
00:18:09.120 And I don't know whether
00:18:09.960 that's in the French army
00:18:11.220 or if he just means
00:18:12.120 they're with his men
00:18:14.040 in Syringapotam.
00:18:15.620 I assume he means that
00:18:17.160 because I just thought
00:18:19.060 flogging was pretty standard
00:18:20.240 across most European armies.
00:18:22.660 That's what I...
00:18:23.220 From the way he says it in the book,
00:18:25.180 that's what I assumed,
00:18:26.140 but I'd have to refer to...
00:18:27.300 Yeah.
00:18:27.620 Yeah, I don't actually know
00:18:28.980 if the French...
00:18:29.640 I imagine they did,
00:18:30.820 just not as much as we did.
00:18:32.200 So, for example,
00:18:33.420 It's only in the King's army you get flogged like that.
00:18:37.520 They don't do it in the East India Company. 0.97
00:18:40.580 And even the Sepoy battalions don't get flogged. 0.95
00:18:43.940 Oh yes, I mentioned that.
00:18:44.940 They get paid a lot less, but they don't get flogged, not like that.
00:18:51.220 So yeah, I mean, obviously we live in a much, much softer age now, don't we, where the idea
00:18:58.260 of almost any corporal punishment is off the cards, almost any really.
00:19:04.360 But even then, even in the late 18th century, the flogging regime in the British army was
00:19:08.820 considered old fashioned, very, very old fashioned.
00:19:13.240 Imagine the modern British army flogging our Disney battalions.
00:19:16.320 To death, if needs be.
00:19:18.220 Do we even have a battalion for them to flog?
00:19:22.880 Interesting. So we get introduced to Goudin, and then eventually they meet the Tipu Sultan himself, comes along.
00:19:35.820 And I think I bookmarked something here. Chronologically, I can't remember if I've gotten a bit ahead or a bit behind.
00:19:44.740 But in fact, I think this was a little bit back, so I'm okay to read it.
00:19:48.400 But I think it's really interesting because it speaks to, it'll give the audience a very good idea of the character of the Tipu himself.
00:19:56.940 And it says,
00:19:57.400 The Tipu did not consider himself a cruel man, but nor indeed did he think himself as a gentle one.
00:20:05.420 He was a ruler, and cruelty and mercy were both weapons of rulers.
00:20:09.840 Any monarch who flinched from cruelty would not rule long, just as any ruler who forgot mercy would soon earn hatred.
00:20:17.600 And so the Tipu tried to balance mercy with cruelty.
00:20:21.100 He did not want the reputation of being lenient any more than he wanted to be judged a tyrant.
00:20:26.140 And so he tried to use both mercy and cruelty judiciously. 0.79
00:20:30.700 The Hindu merchant, his confession made, had pleaded for mercy. 0.71
00:20:34.820 But the Tipu knew there was no time to show such weakness. 0.63
00:20:38.400 This was a time to let a shudder of horror ripple through the streets and alleys of Saringapattam.
00:20:46.100 It was a time to let his enemies know that the price for treason was death.
00:20:51.400 And so both the merchant and the Muslim soldier who had taken the merchant's gold
00:20:55.660 were now standing on the hot stand of the inner palace's courtyard,
00:20:59.340 where they were to be guarded by two of the Tipu's favorite jetties.
00:21:03.720 And I will explain the jetties in just a bit.
00:21:06.280 But I also just want to read a page on where it says he was curious about,
00:21:12.300 Because Gudon suggested, so the jetties do this thing where they hammer a nail into the forehead of the merchant.
00:21:22.020 This is Shakar, who we were talking about, the guy that Sharp and Lawford were supposed to meet inside the city.
00:21:28.360 This is his death scene.
00:21:30.340 And Gudon just glibly mentions, well, maybe you could have used a guillotine.
00:21:35.560 And we then get to, he was curious about the guillotine.
00:21:39.120 and at one time he had thought of having such a machine built in the city.
00:21:43.320 He was fascinated by all things French,
00:21:45.700 and indeed when the revolution had swept France and destroyed the Ancien Régime,
00:21:50.440 the Tipu had for a time embraced the new ideas of liberty, equality and fraternity.
00:21:55.420 He'd erected a tree of liberty in Syringapetam,
00:21:58.320 ordered his guards to wear the red hats of the revolution,
00:22:01.500 and had even ordered revolutionary declarations to be posted in the city's main streets.
00:22:06.500 But the fascination had not endured.
00:22:09.120 The Tipu had begun to fear that his people might become too fond of liberty,
00:22:13.920 or even infected with equality, and so he had removed the Tree of Liberty
00:22:19.120 and had the declarations torn down, yet still the Tipu treasured a love of France.
00:22:24.560 He had never built a guillotine, not for lack of funds,
00:22:28.160 but rather because Gudon had persuaded him that the machine was a device of mercy,
00:22:32.880 constructed to end a criminal's life with such swiftness
00:22:37.280 that the victim would never even realise that he was being killed.
00:22:41.040 It was an ingenious device, the Tipu admitted, but much too merciful."
00:22:46.800 And so again, just such a remarkable passage.
00:22:49.840 I'd like to say two things.
00:22:51.760 One, aside from all that love of France stuff, based. 0.95
00:22:59.120 I mean, the point that it's trying to get across is that the Tipu is not an imbecile.
00:23:05.920 This is a man who understands the balance of how to rule, how to punish his enemies,
00:23:12.880 how to reward his friends, but also as well, someone who is actually personally brave.
00:23:18.640 He is described as a fat little thing several times by Sharp. Physically, he's quite unassuming,
00:23:27.120 but on a personal level, there is a fierce intelligence behind how he conducts himself
00:23:32.640 and what he does, and how he's trying to hold back British interests in Mysore.
00:23:38.800 And, well, this is kind of the point. He's so effective at it that we've now had to concoct
00:23:45.280 reasons to start a fourth Anglo-Mysore war because we just need him out of the way.
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