The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1496

00:00:00.000 Hello everyone. Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters. I'm your host Stelios and I'm joined today by Thomas Dowling and Josh Firm.

00:00:08.420 Hello.

00:00:09.240 And this is Tuesday the 1st of September 2026. August died. I'm really sad about this but I'm looking forward to the new month.

00:00:18.260 But it has rained.

00:00:18.960 Autumn is upon us.

00:00:19.800 It's rained in Britain for the first time in months and I was actually happy to be rained on as an Englishman which is unheard of.

00:00:26.820 honestly i'm amazed that my grass even survived it's not yellow it was no it's very it looked

00:00:33.700 very dead but thankfully it's sprung back to life great this is what you're tuning in for

00:00:38.120 our lawn care tips at lotus eaters awesome today we are going to talk about the state department

00:00:43.740 going nuclear after radical left organizations the apocalypse will begin that's a bit sensationalist

00:00:52.680 but it's fun and then josh is gonna talk to us about the persecution of the right in canada

00:01:00.120 and thomas will talk to us we'll talk about jason r dave and the discourse of who killed him and

00:01:07.880 we're gonna have some good discussion about it and it's gonna be civil and stuff because

00:01:12.000 we already know that we are gonna have some uh different interpretations about this but

00:01:18.240 it's going to be civil and i'm sure it's going to be entertaining and constructive yes and i'm

00:01:24.440 really happy that you're here thank you so am i right let's talk about the state department

00:01:31.040 the u.s state department is romping up its efforts to counter radical left terrorism and furthermore

00:01:42.800 organizations such as CARE, that is the Council of American and Islamic Relations, the SPLC,

00:01:51.600 the Southern Poverty Law Center, and George Soros's Open Society Foundations. They are feeling

00:01:57.980 increasing pressure from the Trump administration. Now, the timing is interesting. As always,

00:02:05.060 it's a few months before the midterms, and many people are saying that this is entirely political

00:02:11.740 and just this is a pre-election thing but misery is a choice and i'm not miserable

00:02:19.400 so when good things happen i'm happy we are going to talk about the good things but before we do so

00:02:26.100 we have this uh chronicles episode chronicles is the excellent um series we have by luca johnson

00:02:34.480 it's about literature and tragic plays check out this episode we're talking about Euripides's

00:02:42.040 media it's very similar to the case of Lindsay Clancy if you've heard the news and there are

00:02:48.800 striking similarities and you can support us with as little as five pounds a month so that would be

00:02:55.180 greatly appreciated thank you right let's talk now a bit about radical left extremism and I think

00:03:03.080 that, in a way, it's a far bigger issue than we think it is, because left-wing rhetoric

00:03:11.300 frequently normalizes violence and frequently leads to extremism. The line between leftist

00:03:20.440 extremism and, you could say, moderate leftism is a thin one, and it's easy to cross it,

00:03:26.940 especially with wokeness that is subjectivising the regulations and the supposed rules of the game.

00:03:33.480 It's a lot rarer for the left to police their radicals than the right, I think.

00:03:37.580 And I think that they recognise that their radicals, if they leave them to do their thing,

00:03:46.800 however cynical it might be, even if they're moderately left-wing,

00:03:52.180 they still are more likely to get what they want because of it.

00:03:55.180 this is also by design on the radical side as well isn't it because they know if they're in

00:04:00.640 the position basically to assert pressure whenever they think a line is crossed and they retain the

00:04:07.000 practical right to decide what that line ultimately is and their political agenda is the net gain

00:04:12.700 that's what we're dealing with and the moderate leftists if you like as well intentioned as that

00:04:17.600 maybe are a complete are still in really complete denial about just how self-aware this radical

00:04:24.860 fringe is and and turning a blind eye and allowing it to happen and yes fitting politically is uh

00:04:31.180 still enough to hold someone morally accountable that's true as well i think and this has contributed

00:04:36.040 to um the disintegration of morals essentially because the radi the radicalization of left-wing

00:04:43.160 spaces has led to many people being openly expressing violent sentiments here this is

00:04:50.040 from leftism4ye this is an ex-account of a friend of mine he is showing he's doing really good job

00:04:59.500 in showing many people who are expressing this and there's it's almost like they have a fat

00:05:05.380 a violent fetish against ice and this bloke isn't the only one there are other people doing here so

00:05:11.040 the whole thing is like they're Nazis. Nazis should be assassinated and doing something about 0.99

00:05:17.160 it. I'm not going to say is heroic and F-ice. So this seems to be a talk describing many leftists 1.00

00:05:25.640 and we definitely saw this during the aftermath of the death of Charlie Kirk and definitely

00:05:32.480 when there were assassination attempts against Trump. But when it comes to Charlie Kirk, Charlie

00:05:39.140 kirk was killed one thing that does really concern me is the exodus of left-wingers to different

00:05:47.380 platforms than many right-wingers and which you might say well you know we've successfully routed

00:05:52.940 them and they fled but actually i think it's quite bad because i like keeping an eye on what they're

00:05:57.860 saying and what they're doing and you need only have a look at blue sky for example where they're

00:06:03.100 they feel safe and there are many many calls for violence and they're not nearly as cracked down

00:06:09.500 upon which simply creates the impression that it is okay and normal and some of the social media

00:06:14.420 platforms double standards here allow for the propagation of these sorts of ideas to a greater

00:06:20.100 extent than they would have otherwise and also the right is somewhat blind to it so there's a sort of

00:06:25.600 combination of two different factors here that worries me absolutely no i i couldn't agree with

00:06:31.340 you more and it seems to be very pervasive we have influencers like hassan paika openly calling

00:06:37.520 for violence he will say of course that he was joking but jokes are like a cheat meal if someone

00:06:45.980 tells me if i see an obese person and a thin person devouring a octuple bypass burger and

00:06:53.900 they tell me it's a cheat meal i'll believe the thin person but i won't believe the obese person

00:06:58.920 schrodinger's joke if you like yeah exactly yeah but it's not just hassan piker and it's good to

00:07:04.440 see now that some at least moderate democrats if you want are openly disavowing hassan piker

00:07:10.820 although i don't know if it's particularly convincing but let's let's give credit where

00:07:16.940 it's due we have aoc saying for instance storm ice detention facilities that's just encouraging

00:07:22.960 people to break the law exactly and the sort of they try to portray ice as something demonic

00:07:28.760 because ice is something that it can work in bad ways i'm not going to say it can't but that's an

00:07:37.080 issue of potential but what they deeply dislike about ice is that ice represents the idea of

00:07:44.080 border uh control and law enforcement it also represents taking away their future voters 0.90

00:07:50.280 absolutely one of the reason they want them these illegals in the country in the first place so they 0.57

00:07:55.060 can grant them citizenship or not even that to allow that translates to political power exactly 0.97

00:08:00.260 exactly um you can't have a country without borders if you are going to have borders you

00:08:05.840 need to have border control and law enforcement and when people cross the borders illegally

00:08:10.560 there has to be a mechanism for them to be deported this is um really trivial stuff

00:08:16.960 the Barack Obama and Biden 20 years ago would find this completely uncontroversial.

00:08:26.300 And there are videos of them saying so. Here we have Tom Homan saying on Anti-Ice Democrats,

00:08:31.180 so you want to abolish an agency that found 151,000 children. You want to abolish an agency

00:08:37.760 that seized enough fentanyl to kill every American three times over. You want to abolish

00:08:43.380 an agency that is attacking sex trafficking yes they do because in the leftist mind in the radical

00:08:49.400 leftist mind it's only criminals who have human rights the rights of the victims are never

00:08:56.080 important they are always trumped by the human rights of the criminals and it's what we said

00:09:05.060 before the more the left is losing the working class and it seems to be happening they are trying

00:09:11.680 to focus on the third world or the so-called third world which they think possesses the

00:09:17.320 revolutionary potential to overthrow capitalism and they say we're going to open the doors for

00:09:22.480 you you're going to come in you're going to be given money become an economic lobby increase

00:09:28.480 your political power you're going to be given the vote and you're going to become a pressure group

00:09:32.460 questions have to be asked about whether they're interested in the actual interest of the working

00:09:36.800 class at all are they more interested in that defending the you know the hard up whatever their

00:09:42.340 political convictions happen to be or more interested in importing whoever they need to

00:09:47.320 no matter how rich or poor in order to advance what they want i think we know what the answer is

00:09:52.560 on that yes you're correct here we have the center for strategic and international studies

00:09:58.820 providing us with a bit of context because the first reaction i had when i read the news was

00:10:05.260 right okay let's be honest let's be clear about what is going on let us examine this

00:10:11.060 in perspective in terms of how these trends are growing and i'll just tell you what i see here

00:10:16.880 they say that in recent years the you know the u.s has seen an increase in the number of left-wing

00:10:22.360 terrorism attacks and plots although such violence has risen from very low levels and remains lower

00:10:29.520 than historical levels of violence carried out by right-wing and jihadi attackers throughout history.

00:10:35.760 But they are saying that 2025 marks the first time in more than 30 years

00:10:42.100 that left-wing terrorist attacks outnumber those from the violent far-right.

00:10:46.780 Wow.

00:10:47.320 Whatever the violent far-right means.

00:10:49.540 Yes, but...

00:10:50.600 Notice how it says, I don't know whether this is deliberate,

00:10:54.240 just left-wing terrorist attacks, whereas they say the violent far-right.

00:10:58.240 there's a little bit of an imbalance there but it's interesting that they have to qualify it as

00:11:02.980 violent which implies that it isn't always violent so that's also another thing again they're holding

00:11:08.940 on to that um definition of coercion despite its decline this year right-wing terrorism could

00:11:14.860 easily return to previous high levels and it's important for both sides to resource counter

00:11:19.600 terrorism efforts against both and work with communities to gain their support against

00:11:23.740 extremist and it says here that it hasn't reached the 60s and 70s level of urgency but for the first

00:11:34.000 time in 30 years it it surpassed this sort of extremist right i'll call it extremist right

00:11:40.280 i think far right is a completely nonsensical term i'll interpret it as extremist right

00:11:45.940 but even then you have to use the language they're using right well i mean i do think that

00:11:51.100 the concept of extremism is an interesting concept despite the fact that it can be misused and yeah

00:11:58.660 right and they're saying that our analysis of terrorism trends in the u.s shows that indeed

00:12:04.300 left-wing violence has risen in the last 10 years and they try to say that this is in response to

00:12:10.020 trump but uh the and in response to this but it seems like you know the trend is upward it's like

00:12:19.780 saying it's in response to trump is like saying school shootings happen because there are lots

00:12:24.400 of annoying kids like that's the wrong way around right you're you're adding onus on the people

00:12:29.460 that are being targeted by the violence which is the wrong way to frame it i think i don't think

00:12:34.420 that they are trying to be necessarily partisan here but yeah you could definitely say that the

00:12:42.160 way that they are doing it they are expressing themselves could be more pro left-wing in some

00:12:49.360 respects could be interpreted as as doing this i don't know whether it's deliberate or not right

00:12:53.940 so here we have marco rubio's statement about the recent attempts that have intensified and they

00:13:00.580 have targeted several organizations and predominantly one that is goes by the name

00:13:08.520 ai collective in italy so he says far left terrorism poses a profound threat to the united

00:13:15.560 states and the broader west today the united states sanctioned several transnational far

00:13:21.460 left terrorist networks including the ai collective what is that ai yeah that's the guy

00:13:28.560 it's autistici inventati a major far left tech collective whose services are used by the most

00:13:35.320 active and violent antifa cells in the us and across the world and he says that they are not

00:13:40.860 going to allow it and are going to intensify their attempts to do something about it here we have

00:13:49.000 this article that was published in on fox news by peter dabroska he says state department reveals

00:13:55.960 potential link no he says it reveals portland antifa connection to hamas iran's irgc in sweeping

00:14:03.340 terror action so essentially what happened was that according to the u.s department of state

00:14:09.580 The AI collective in Italy, that is Italy-based, was providing several far-left terrorist organizations and also terrorist organizations like Hamas and the IRGC with the digital infrastructure to coordinate and to engage in all sorts of actions that have the aim to disrupt and terrorize.

00:14:35.280 Is that on US soil or is that interventionist?

00:14:39.580 as in um related to their foreign policy um it's both disrupting intelligence for example

00:14:45.340 i think it's both it's international and the idea is that this goes to um say that we live

00:14:53.200 in an era where the adversaries although the world is so interconnected and the western world

00:14:59.760 is targeted by people and adversaries who are internationally organized and they operate in

00:15:06.280 And the vested interest in, you could say, anti-American causes has become, you could say, politically or has enough political purchase to qualify as a national security threat in the United States.

00:15:18.340 And that's the basis that they're clamping down on it.

00:15:20.340 Definitely, because it isn't just an issue of them having the same far-left rhetoric that Hassan Piker has, for instance.

00:15:28.320 It's an issue of them providing tools that are encrypted and are routinely used against, let's say, ICE agents.

00:15:38.080 So, for instance, I'll show you this here.

00:15:40.940 There was an anti-ICE agitator who doxxed ICE officers in North Carolina.

00:15:46.160 Of course, there was also that ICE agent tracker as well.

00:15:49.300 I'm not sure if that was related to this, but it shows that there is at least a willingness within the United States for these forms of technology and going after the people that provide them is a way of stopping it.

00:16:01.800 Exactly. And let's say also that when it comes to the anti-IS rhetoric of the radical left, which is often, as I showed you when I showed you, AOC is adopted by the less radical leftists, if you'd like, is having real life consequences.

00:16:20.960 Because when they are saying these people are Nazis and Nazis are fair game, you can do anything to them, and they dox their families, well, that's an invitation to do something bad.

00:16:36.180 Let's not hide behind our fingers here.

00:16:40.900 Right, so let me tell you in a nutshell what this involves as far as the AI collective is called, that they have denied.

00:16:48.180 They said essentially that they are just anti-capitalists and anti-fascists and that this isn't terrorist.

00:16:55.120 So what happens, that's the first stage, is that there are sanctions and financial blocking.

00:17:01.020 The designation freezes all assets of the AI collective subject to U.S. jurisdiction

00:17:06.340 and strictly prohibits U.S. citizens, businesses, and financial institutions from conducting transactions or providing services to the collective.

00:17:15.360 then there's the connection to portland antifa and there's a memo by the state department that

00:17:21.520 explicitly names rose city antifa as one of the primary u.s groups utilizing the ai collectives

00:17:28.740 encrypted email web hosting and anonymity tools and then there's the forest terrorist overlap

00:17:34.360 because there are heavy there there is it's it's not a weird inference to draw that if this ai

00:17:41.740 Collective is providing them with a digital infrastructure that they provide Hamas and

00:17:49.720 the IRGC with, and their rhetoric is almost always overlapping, that they function as

00:17:56.640 their means of public relations.

00:17:59.540 Yeah, it would be negligence on the security front to not do anything.

00:18:04.320 Yes, and this digital infrastructure has been used by Volant and Tifa cells.

00:18:08.820 provides them with encrypted emails encrypted chats and they constantly dox ice agents and do

00:18:15.000 all sorts of others that's a slam dunk case isn't it activities so for instance they even had

00:18:19.780 they say for instance use lasers in order to prevent um choppers from landing it's it's it's

00:18:28.080 in some cases really weird yeah and they say the collective claims to host roughly 16 000 mailboxes

00:18:34.140 1,500 websites of 5,500 mailing lists and 10,000 blogs and custom-built platform.

00:18:42.080 And they say that militants frequently use these services to disseminate target information,

00:18:47.140 tactical manuals and techniques and communicators about recent attacks.

00:18:50.740 And they're also used to coordinate riots, for instance.

00:18:53.820 Whereas here, secret signal chats reveal how anti-ice agitators coordinated Newark riots.

00:19:01.140 That's not really something hard to believe.

00:19:04.140 I mean, we've always known that these agitators have coordinated,

00:19:07.960 but it's good to know that you can at least find out where they are coordinating now.

00:19:13.660 And I think that obviously their task in cutting down any new infrastructure that's built

00:19:20.740 is going to be difficult because, of course, it's the internet, right?

00:19:24.320 And it's very easy to hide things, but I think it's at least going to set them back,

00:19:29.000 and it's certainly worthwhile doing.

00:19:30.280 It demonstrates a will to actually clamp down on what is ultimately international terrorism.

00:19:35.800 Yeah.

00:19:36.680 I mean, just giving our enemies, or say our, the US's enemies, something to think about on that front can go a long way.

00:19:43.000 But it can only go as far as that if you enforce it.

00:19:46.600 Well, I mean, just making them feel small and isolated and as if their action can't do anything is enough to keep them home, right?

00:19:53.400 i think enough people on the right have felt that feeling to know that a feeling of hopelessness

00:19:58.400 makes you uh sort of uh resistant to doing things yes demoralized yeah but one thing to say here

00:20:06.100 which i think that it's a very huge positive here it isn't just a positive for the u.s i think it's

00:20:11.200 generally speaking positive for the entire world but when it comes to cracking down on networks

00:20:17.420 I think several different agencies of different states and different transnational organizations such as the EU, they need to collaborate.

00:20:26.520 So, for instance, if you check documentaries about serial killers, often they got away with what they were doing because the police departments of different states weren't coordinating.

00:20:36.520 The bureaucracy got away, basically.

00:20:38.540 yes so we had a development that was interesting antifa linked sites went dark after state

00:20:46.200 department's terror designation of tech collective and they say that the italy-based ai collective

00:20:51.560 provided encrypted hosting to far-left groups now cut off by u.s sanctions so several of the web

00:20:57.920 pages they really went dark that is a certainly an interesting development right so let's hear

00:21:05.920 it's a that's a daily war article global leftist org that doxed ice agents designated a terror group

00:21:12.160 it doesn't say that something that i didn't tell you before but if you want to read it out check

00:21:18.360 it out and we have here the um intensification of scrutiny to several other organizations and

00:21:29.360 it isn't just what happened with the Portland Antifa, with Rose City Antifa. We have Greg

00:21:36.800 Abbott in Texas designating CARE, a terrorist organization. Ron DeSantis in Florida quickly

00:21:44.000 followed. And we also have really interesting things here. We have the Trump administration

00:21:50.620 targeting the George Soros Nonprofit Foundation. How wonderful. If they can declare George Soros

00:21:57.560 an international terrorist

00:21:59.480 maybe I'll change my mind

00:22:01.540 hasn't China identified him as an international

00:22:03.660 terrorist or a financial

00:22:05.520 terrorist you know the CCP

00:22:07.640 are trying to warm my heart at this rate

00:22:09.780 never thought I'd say that

00:22:11.080 what do you think

00:22:12.880 what were you going to say

00:22:14.940 I don't want to sabotage you but what were you

00:22:17.460 about to change your mind

00:22:18.840 I was only joking

00:22:20.340 so it says here

00:22:23.460 Trump administration set to

00:22:25.480 target George Soros non-profit

00:22:27.460 southern poverty law center and care in major tax crackdown those are all great organizations to

00:22:34.160 target care by the way is the council of american islamic relations and i read the first line here

00:22:43.360 and it annoyed me a bit it says treasury secretary scott besant and the irs could revoke the tax-free

00:22:50.820 status of left-wing non-profits such as george soros's open society foundations the spLC and

00:22:57.360 care three sources familiar with the matter have told the post now why do they have a non-profit

00:23:03.300 status a tax-free status why not just revoke it just i just don't understand why they are allowed

00:23:13.420 to have this it's the same in britain as well that we grant organizations tax-free tax-free

00:23:19.240 statuses that really do not deserve it and i mean it would have been nice to see the adl here as

00:23:23.600 well because they do similar things to the SPLC and they're sort of equivalent organizations but

00:23:28.880 we know why they're not doing that what does the Southern Poverty Law Center actually fund or help

00:23:34.500 to administer well it's a bad thing it's a niche it's supposed to be a an NGO that focuses a lot

00:23:44.260 on right-wing extremism and Kash Patel now the FBI director is conducting investigations and

00:23:51.240 one of the senior members of the SPLC has been arrested she is being investigated about

00:23:57.880 setting up a essentially embezzling donor funding fraud and funding

00:24:05.600 right the extremist right yeah that's about that story that's a good reason to revoke the tax-free

00:24:14.920 status yeah because one of the things that we need to remember when we are talking about you

00:24:20.760 know statism in a way is that many people are given jobs and they have to justify them and

00:24:26.400 these jobs often are not providing something to the common good they are essentially harming the

00:24:31.960 common good so these people have to engage in a particular rhetoric according to which their

00:24:37.240 position isn't a net cost it's a net benefit and because there isn't that much of a problem when

00:24:44.740 it comes to the right they constantly say that there is a huge problem and they have to do

00:24:52.140 something about it and yeah looks like she was funding it i mean if uh you want to send me some

00:24:58.880 money you can email me and i'll give you my bank details if you want to combat you know extremism

00:25:03.500 i'm right here i'll take lots of money if you want right i will say though that uh yeah the

00:25:08.580 midterms are approaching and i'd be very sad if i saw that oh this is just an issue for me for

00:25:15.940 internal consumption for the midterms i understand the real realism of it i do understand that the

00:25:22.380 republicans want to win the midterms and from what i see i hope they do but this shouldn't be

00:25:29.300 just an issue of politics and political opportunity opportunism this should be an issue of actually

00:25:35.380 benefiting society and the broader world and i want to say one thing which i'm sure we are going

00:25:40.700 to say much more when it comes to the third segment but the line between left-wing extremism

00:25:46.340 and the sort of moderate leftism is really thin because fundamentally everyone thinks everyone

00:25:54.800 barring the extreme pacifists thinks that when it comes to situation of self-defense people are

00:26:03.600 allowed to defend themselves and by means by any means necessary so what happens with the new

00:26:10.420 philosophy of the left especially after the 60s and 70s is a focus on the message that harm isn't

00:26:19.140 just physical harm they say well no the theoreticians of classical liberalism were

00:26:25.480 have too thin and as a notion of harm and we need to check on psychological harm they were real men

00:26:31.740 so they didn't need the state to protect their feelings yeah yes and then they are expanding

00:26:37.040 the notion of psychological harm and essentially they are brainwashing uh people especially

00:26:44.500 students in school and universities into thinking that they're in a constant a state where you know

00:26:51.920 the nazis are just about to destroy everything and you are in a situation of self-defense and

00:26:58.380 this is despicable and it has conquered academia to a very large extent and this is something that

00:27:05.420 the so-called moderate democrats need to turn their back to or on and i don't see them doing it

00:27:15.500 i really don't see them doing it they can disavow hassan piker all they want but unless i see them

00:27:20.940 do this i won't be convinced so i'm really happy that the trump administration seems to be doing

00:27:28.700 something that bears tangible results right that's a random name says stochastic terrorism

00:27:36.140 is the perfect example of this they label us as hugo boss and joy is as a way to offload their

00:27:42.760 evil actions onto us it's charlie kirk's fault they killed him according to them not theirs

00:27:47.840 how do you know i'm wearing hugo boss aftershave yeah it's the whole thing that uh they call you

00:27:53.640 this they call you a nazi to to be justified in in harming you no they not because you are

00:28:00.680 uh that's a random name a person's relationship with their own agency is one of the best ways

00:28:05.740 to measure their morale morality if someone constantly acts like they can't be blamed for

00:28:10.880 their actions chances are they're evil yep it's good enough for me the system made me do it

00:28:16.840 pills made me do it the media blah blah blah although there is a difference between um

00:28:22.420 pointing to the system and saying that that had a determining factor on my moral decision but to say

00:28:28.080 entirely that it determined what i do and that i'm not morally culpable for an action that i

00:28:32.640 administer is not just evil it's sophistry and of course the two go hand in hand when it comes

00:28:37.780 to politics all of my actions are determined by a pantheon of gods just saying josh firm in the lap

00:28:45.120 of the gods if the god will mark its forces cheers for that old old debate rears its ugly head again

00:28:54.040 anyway i'm going to be talking about today how canada yeah i'm going to try that again because

00:29:00.700 i can't say the word canada for some reason i'm going to be talking about how canada has been

00:29:05.420 persecuting the right or at least the latest iteration of it and it all starts with this

00:29:10.900 this Dominion Society, which is a right-wing group. I don't even think they're a political

00:29:15.740 party yet, but they set up a conference, and they had some speakers at that conference,

00:29:22.200 lo and behold, and they had to fly into the country, and they were prevented, and they

00:29:28.180 are people you might be familiar with. So Charlie Downs, who is, of course, one of my

00:29:34.060 colleagues at Restore Britain, you know, he's a senior member, founding member of a parliamentary

00:29:40.360 political party, he was prevented from entering Canada and no matter what you

00:29:47.380 think of someone's politics, if they are a part of a party that is represented in

00:29:53.140 a parliament, that is quite a strict line to draw who enters and leaves your

00:29:59.860 country. I'm not saying you should have no borders whatsoever, of course. For

00:30:04.540 example, if you know an Islamic terrorist were to come into your country, perhaps 1.00

00:30:08.740 it'd be a good idea to prevent them from coming in but someone who has done nothing other than 0.95

00:30:13.600 participate in civil um politics they've never done anything criminal um it's a bit of an absurd

00:30:21.500 reaction and it says here um he was scheduled to travel directly to canada from london

00:30:26.080 but his case was reopened and his electronic travel authorization at the last minute without

00:30:32.400 notice was revoked and preventing him from boarding his flight and this seems to be like

00:30:37.340 the the new strategy that governments across the world sort of discovered is a good way of annoying

00:30:44.940 inconvenient people coming into your country because it happens in the uk as well there have

00:30:49.740 been a few people who have had their ability to come here revoked not least of all i hosted the

00:30:56.220 witten over the weekend and we had emil kierkegaard who was going to speak at the event who's a danish

00:31:03.340 researcher looking at intelligence and genetics and because of the uncomfortable political nature

00:31:09.580 of his work he wasn't allowed in the country but actually his talk was just looking at the research

00:31:16.220 on fertility rates and was perfectly reasonable and quite academically rigorous and there was

00:31:21.020 nothing objectionable about it at all and a qualified academic above all else yeah well

00:31:26.140 opinions perfectly informed to some extent it isn't also just an issue of uh disrupting charlie's

00:31:33.120 charlie downs's trip it's also an issue of sending a message to canadians i mean i don't know how

00:31:40.000 many of them will be uh will be familiar with this news or will be aware of what happened

00:31:46.220 but it is definitely the case that it's a message to more people than one percent potentially a

00:31:52.400 message to people like us as well to say don't bother trying to come here because we'll find a

00:31:55.980 reason to not we'll see that explicitly stated to reinforce what um you've said here but the the

00:32:02.320 process somewhat was the punishment for charlie here in that um he was detained for three hours

00:32:07.340 um he had it because he he then flew to the u.s and tried to take the land border because it

00:32:13.340 requires different um visa routes i don't quite understand it i've not been to canada before

00:32:17.980 but supposedly that's different and it would be a way of getting into the country

00:32:23.420 but they still searched this vehicle and used a canine unit to search it which seems

00:32:28.640 entirely unnecessary for someone who has no criminal record and is you know a respected

00:32:36.560 member of a political party right yeah and whose parliament of course comes from the same sovereign

00:32:41.280 as well if i'm correct in saying that is true yes yes um and interestingly enough um charlie

00:32:48.020 mentioned in an interview i haven't actually spoke to him yet uh since he's uh been back

00:32:52.840 but he was also interrogated by canadian border officials and they had some very interesting

00:32:58.300 questions which i'm not entirely sure even relate to canadian politics so um they asked about

00:33:04.140 Restore Britain's funding, which

00:33:05.980 we've got about

00:33:07.420 over 150,000

00:33:10.160 members. That's a decent portion

00:33:12.020 of it. We just received

00:33:13.980 a half a million

00:33:15.780 pound donation from a businessman.

00:33:18.840 But we're pretty open

00:33:19.980 about it. There's no secret. It's all

00:33:21.960 a matter of public record.

00:33:24.600 Political parties' funding

00:33:25.920 is often tracked

00:33:26.880 to make sure there's no corruption going on anyway.

00:33:30.140 So our own system does this

00:33:31.880 for us so i don't know why they're doing that um they could be just trying to pressure him like

00:33:37.260 just let's pressure him maybe he's gonna say something what would they like the answer to be

00:33:42.040 is my question as in what what is the best case scenario for someone that

00:33:45.800 dislikes restore britain insofar as its funding source is concerned yeah well it's kkk somebody

00:33:52.580 like that i mean they're not really a thing anymore anyway really no but is that the answer

00:33:58.800 that they want to hear i don't know maybe the one thing i could think of is you know how some people

00:34:04.320 on the left are a little bit nuts and they say you're being funded by the russians or or things

00:34:08.980 like that that that would be the first thing yeah it's just passing the onus of proof onto their

00:34:12.780 opposition all the time exactly yeah um they also talked about restore britain's deportation

00:34:17.280 policies which quite frankly is none of the canadian government's business uh what our

00:34:23.840 political parties advocate you're no longer part of the empire i'm afraid um and uh although you

00:34:29.480 know i have a lot of sympathy and i miss you canadians um you know we are different countries

00:34:34.300 now but also freedom of movement now isn't sacrosanct now border control is suddenly good

00:34:40.820 yeah it's a bit of an irony isn't it that they're complaining about our border policies while

00:34:45.320 detaining someone at their border i mean a necessary condition for having any functioning

00:34:50.020 country is being able to enforce

00:34:52.120 a border. That's an apolitical

00:34:54.340 point. It's a functionalist point.

00:34:56.220 Like it's not, you can't

00:34:57.340 Yeah. So they also asked about

00:35:00.160 the Dominion Society's alleged

00:35:01.740 links to neo-Nazism and of course

00:35:03.820 these are a nationalist group

00:35:06.160 that pushes for re-migration

00:35:07.400 but you know they're not that

00:35:09.980 different from formal political parties

00:35:12.240 in Britain although they're not a party themselves

00:35:14.180 as far as I'm aware.

00:35:16.220 So that's just them trying to

00:35:18.040 smear them. They also asked whether

00:35:19.860 he'd been in an armed militia which is a funny thing to be fair he did say at one point that he

00:35:25.280 was joining the army so there is maybe some substance to that but it's minimal but that's

00:35:30.120 that's not a militia that's not militia that's literally the military that's as far as their

00:35:34.860 the credibility of their point goes and also whether he advocated the violent overthrow of

00:35:40.060 a government whilst in a parliamentary political party i mean what are they on about i mean none

00:35:46.440 of his public facing media that says anything he did once say this is revolution make no mistake

00:35:53.380 about it but that wasn't but it's more a metaphorical yeah that yes he's metaphorical that

00:35:58.280 you can't really launch a charge off of that well one thing you know the way i think about it is

00:36:04.300 that if someone was a credible threat they would just not answer the way that the border control

00:36:12.380 would want them to answer i'm just here on holiday yeah it wouldn't be transparent like no someone

00:36:19.000 if someone were um if someone intended to overthrow a government why would they just say this to the

00:36:26.820 border control of another country also why would someone involved in politics in britain go to

00:36:32.460 canada and and want to get involved in that surely that would just be an unnecessary distraction

00:36:37.820 right unless it's they're actually genuinely there just are those parties not accepted by

00:36:42.580 the canadian authority as legitimate political parties and causes because that's who he's going

00:36:46.480 to speak to so it's perfectly under their stipulated remit and he did eventually make it

00:36:53.340 um so that's something at least however um one person wasn't able to and that was martin selner

00:36:59.320 he wasn't able to board his flight and so um he was uh blocked i don't i presume he didn't go

00:37:06.060 through the sort of

00:37:07.980 southern border through the US route

00:37:09.680 maybe he didn't have time, I don't know

00:37:12.200 but they did succeed

00:37:14.120 and that's what they were trying to do

00:37:16.120 with Charlie as well

00:37:17.080 in basically discouraging

00:37:20.440 people from networking

00:37:22.040 with each other and building these

00:37:24.240 connections across borders

00:37:26.200 because it undeniably makes

00:37:28.080 the right stronger. If you want to see

00:37:30.060 how to build a political movement

00:37:32.060 look at what they're trying to prevent you

00:37:34.080 to do. It's a power flux

00:37:36.040 exactly but also there there are uh media and people can communicate without communicating

00:37:42.040 in person that's also true i don't know how effective that's gonna again it's all about

00:37:47.000 sending a signal on the biggest biggest stage possible enforcing the law at governmental level

00:37:52.200 to prohibit someone that you identify as a political opponent is as big a statement as

00:37:56.100 you can make and it may not be a legitimate one but what is legitimate is that it proves that

00:38:01.340 they're willing to use that power if someone whose politics they don't like tries to come

00:38:05.360 into the country so they've got nothing to lose from doing it from their political perspective

00:38:09.020 one interesting thing here is uh they they do allow this guy into the country who served seven

00:38:14.520 years in jail for um a terrorist bombing plot on an airplane so people who actually commit or plan

00:38:23.140 to commit acts of terror they're okay as long as their politics are you know the right kind

00:38:28.880 but i i guess uh people who are here uh to to speak schrodinger's pardon this is uh

00:38:36.600 unfortunately very common and you can see it here and i do not con i definitely do not condone

00:38:43.080 bad posts but you do see regularly british people getting very high sentences for bad posts

00:38:52.200 and you see people for instance when they are muslims who have very extremist positions and

00:38:59.320 posts and nothing happens you also have yeah you also have cases where people say something

00:39:04.440 completely uncontroversial the government doesn't intervene there but then there's such an extreme

00:39:08.660 reaction that it does actually become a threat to the person that said it and the crown prosecution

00:39:13.120 service despite violence being incited against that person with a center rights-leaning view

00:39:18.840 comes under no protection whatsoever.

00:39:21.860 They're also selective in their protection as well as their enforcement.

00:39:24.780 Oh, and explicitly because of the guidelines that they now have to use.

00:39:30.580 And also certain groups as well, like this Jewish group, 0.84

00:39:36.160 were trying to push to not let these people in the country in the first place.

00:39:41.120 There are other groups as well that are involved,

00:39:43.240 but they did a whole write-up about it

00:39:45.520 and they tried to smear the people speaking as far more extreme than they actually are,

00:39:51.400 as is often the case.

00:39:53.440 But one thing I wanted to look at, as well as just the actions of the people on the border,

00:39:58.020 was that of the police.

00:40:00.000 So where the conference was being held was in the jurisdiction of Hamilton Police,

00:40:05.040 or at least where it was set to be held.

00:40:06.860 I'm not entirely sure where it was in the end.

00:40:09.140 But they were saying, we're aware of the Dominion Club of Canada

00:40:13.700 looking for an alternative venue this was at the time before they'd found one they successfully

00:40:20.160 had their conference by the way anyone with information about recent venue bookings is

00:40:26.100 asked to contact police and then they give a number which as I'm aware they're not a prescribed group

00:40:31.820 they have a legal right to associate you know freedom of association one would presume

00:40:39.560 You know, that wasn't how we set up Canada to operate, certainly, although we ourselves are certainly guilty of very similar things.

00:40:49.260 But this is completely baseless.

00:40:52.260 There's no precedent in this in Canadian law, as far as I'm aware, that you can just bar people from associating based on what.

00:41:00.020 When there's literally no history of them being disruptive at all, just discussing politics.

00:41:05.180 It's also worth mentioning that Canada has very severe hate speech laws and they are very subjective. They're deliberately creating an atmosphere where everyone is guilty by default and the state allows you to get away with it, chooses how long they're going to allow you to get away with it.

00:41:24.580 It's the same thing that the Chinese Communist Party does where they make the legal arrangements so difficult to not break that when you do something wrong politically, they can always have something to get you on rather than looking like they're purely persecuting you for politics. 0.81

00:41:41.800 It happens all the time. 0.61

00:41:42.400 You're breathing.

00:41:42.960 You're offending me.

00:41:45.260 And interestingly here, because they posted their number publicly, lots of people called them.

00:41:49.860 And someone called up, and an inspector called Darren Murphy said the police are only non-partisan based on context.

00:41:59.540 That means literally nothing.

00:42:00.960 Well, it means that they are partisan, then.

00:42:02.740 If it's context-dependent, then it means you choose political sides.

00:42:06.060 The context that we decide.

00:42:07.700 Yeah.

00:42:08.360 And it's also interesting that when asked who made the decision to go after the conference,

00:42:14.040 he said it was a group decision, but when he was pressed on whether those orders were passed down,

00:42:19.080 the chain of command he refused to answer and hung up the phone which seems to suggest probably yes

00:42:24.220 probably wanted to avoid but um the full call here is six minutes long so i'm not going to play it but

00:42:29.740 all of the links in this that i haven't played uh you can access on our website under the podcast

00:42:34.800 section we list them underneath the video if you want to uh have a full listen to the things i'm

00:42:40.540 going over but for the sake of time i'm not going to play at all um also it's worth pointing out

00:42:45.300 The police in Canada, particularly Hamilton police as depicted here, go into places of worship and they're taken for tours of all these foreign religions as part of their diversity training.

00:43:01.940 And there they are all with their Sikh headdresses on in a Sikh temple.

00:43:08.640 That multiculturalism. They are supposed to keep their culture, but the police isn't.

00:43:14.020 I guess so

00:43:15.620 is there even any need to be wearing those in a temple

00:43:18.520 because I've visited Sikh temples before

00:43:20.180 just out of curiosity and they have never

00:43:22.180 compelled me to wear one

00:43:23.480 I don't know

00:43:24.480 it's a strange thing to do

00:43:27.520 it's almost like a symbol of ownership

00:43:29.960 it feels like, I'm not sure if that's entirely

00:43:32.260 the intention, maybe it's just

00:43:33.900 a more respectful thing, I'm not an expert

00:43:36.320 I'd just be curious to know if that was a conscious

00:43:38.320 decision by the police to wear that

00:43:40.260 I mean the colour of the head

00:43:42.120 i don't know the official to the head scarves suggest that it was because it's obviously blue

00:43:46.280 and yellow you associate that with the police but that's true actually yeah um so one thing that did

00:43:52.020 interest me was that um one of the conservative members of parliament in canada did actually

00:43:57.320 defend the conference and he said that i have significant issues with the dominion society but

00:44:02.060 i am unaware of any criminal allegations against them or any credible suspicion their conference

00:44:06.760 would be illegal it's not for the police to target venues who may wish to rent spaces out

00:44:10.940 to a group who is breaking no laws this is how lawful however objectionable or disagreeable it

00:44:17.040 might be speech gets chilled and how the state censors without laying a single charge and uh

00:44:22.440 that was quite eloquently put i thought and it's interesting that you know people who are to the

00:44:28.660 left of the people in this group were actually uh defending them of course he's still a conservative

00:44:33.360 mp i mean it's really a pity that we are even discussing about this it's if you don't if you

00:44:40.620 aren't guilty of something and it's not demonstrable then yeah you should be allowed

00:44:46.660 to associate with people you should be allowed to meet people you should be allowed to stage

00:44:51.520 conferences what are we even talking about something so um i'm sorry no i was just going

00:44:56.900 to say some people just really do not like democracy yeah well that's the way it seems

00:45:01.300 people who are usually defending our democracy yeah and hate the demos and want to change it

00:45:07.600 and not just in canada but everywhere so the justice center for constitutional freedoms

00:45:12.940 actually assembled a team of lawyers um to send a warning letter to the mayor as well as hamilton

00:45:20.000 police after they did attempt to do this and um apparently mayor hallworth um urged local

00:45:27.100 businesses not to host the conference and hamilton police then asked the public as we saw um to

00:45:33.320 identify possible venues and one of their lawyers said the city of hamilton and hamilton police are

00:45:39.700 both using direct action and their influence to exclude a viewpoint they disagree with from the

00:45:44.420 entire city this is unconstitutional and fundamentally at odds with the way a free

00:45:49.060 and democratic society operates quite which is correct yes and it's good to see actually

00:45:54.540 the right lawyering up here i think that that needs to happen and i think that it's one of the

00:45:59.940 ways um in a civil society in which you you know hit them where it hurts sometimes and that's often

00:46:07.660 their wallets right all of a sudden people will listen to you if they disagree with you if you

00:46:12.360 hold the threat of suing them if they they come and harm you in an unfair way but it is something

00:46:18.300 that is good that it's happening and i'm talking about people who are the victims of this 0.98

00:46:24.020 stupid crackdown that they know that there is a legal avenue and they can do something about it 0.94

00:46:31.780 and they need to find who to contact i think that's part of the problem as well as well as 0.99

00:46:38.900 the fact that it's very cheap and easy to do these sorts of things but it's very expensive

00:46:43.860 to defend yourself and so sometimes people will roll over not necessarily for any fault of their

00:46:50.100 own but simply because it's not worth the money to to do it and that's part of the punishment

00:46:54.420 understand but if people start doing it if they have the means and time to do so it creates a

00:47:00.420 legal precedent 100 agree that can then be appealed to in in further cases in the future

00:47:05.860 then people get into the habit of invoking it and then the problem actually becomes smaller

00:47:10.740 through time yeah there are better ways of addressing in most in a lot of cases people

00:47:15.220 just don't know that they have those rights to enforce and that courts are compelled to act on

00:47:19.220 them yep yeah it's just that again that fatigue that the right suffers from so one other thing

00:47:25.980 is another institution of our you know so-called free canadian society um helped enforce this

00:47:32.880 persecution and that is the press of course not only that but the state press right um and here

00:47:39.000 is the cbc saying we didn't want them hamilton rallies against dominion society as group holds

00:47:45.160 events in burlington ontario so this is of course a press framing that we see often where they try

00:47:52.400 and say that a few select people perhaps even very radical left-wing people who themselves

00:47:57.680 are you know objectionable um say that they don't want this group here and then they try and say

00:48:04.100 it's the whole community this is the town has spoken it's like i always hate that because we

00:48:09.160 don't feel safe as the plays they you know it's quite free just don't go then so are you telling

00:48:14.420 me that the canadian government listens to people who say i don't want some people to be brought

00:48:21.680 near me because i don't feel safe and the government does something about it and says

00:48:27.000 right i am going to protect your feelings of safety there's a nice analogy here for the

00:48:33.400 immigration debate isn't there but if you do it and you disagree with them you're a nazi that's

00:48:39.340 what they say we actually had an example of this happening um in york before i actually left

00:48:44.020 actually i think i had left but anyway restore held some sort of event in this park area and

00:48:50.520 nobody knew that it was nobody from the left knew that it was happening so it just happened but as

00:48:55.780 soon as some people got wind that restore had been allowed to host an event at that venue i wish i

00:49:02.060 could name it because i can't we then got an echo or a chamber of um of complaints from people

00:49:09.620 claiming they no longer feel safe walking in that park because restore had once for a couple of

00:49:15.520 hours been allowed to host a social event there the the dangerous far right residue lingers in

00:49:20.980 the park this is what we're dealing with yeah obviously that they're using people's softness

00:49:27.940 basically they don't give a they don't give a toss about how we feel for example about the pride flag

00:49:33.220 being put up but what is it a hundred foot tall for an entire month i feel personally violated by

00:49:38.400 it i'm not even religious but they don't give a toss about our feelings about that have you also

00:49:43.000 heard about birmingham where the city council said that it's illegal to fly the british flag and the

00:49:48.680 english flag unless you get permission of course it's in birmingham you need permission to fly the

00:49:53.280 flag of your own nation yes so yes canada we are going through the same things and uh obviously

00:49:59.440 you have my sympathies here um but one interesting thing is that the cbc um recently had this story

00:50:06.340 come out that they had given internal guidance to their journalists not to call 9-11 a terrorist

00:50:11.560 attack so these are the these are the people um that are saying that you know we don't want these

00:50:18.420 people in our town our city um but by the way it would be massively offended by that

00:50:24.740 like what are they going to call it then like a terrible accident like really yeah a terrorism

00:50:31.600 incident um a non-crime hate incident and then i found this interesting as well um so this was

00:50:40.480 talking about you know this is a little bit more reasonable anti-immigration groups planned rally

00:50:44.960 forces closure of monument although they didn't actually force the closure of the monument

00:50:48.880 they they they shot a video and then the mere prospect of them hosting the you know some sort

00:50:57.240 of conference there even though it's an outdoor park rather than a conference hall uh they closed

00:51:02.000 down the park there and they'd already been there they just shot a video and said it was beautiful

00:51:06.340 it was a nice place that was it that was what radicalized you the beauty of this park and then

00:51:12.480 they left to host the conference elsewhere

00:51:14.400 and the mere prospect of it is that they closed it

00:51:16.480 down, which is

00:51:18.600 the most absurd

00:51:20.600 thing ever

00:51:21.240 and then

00:51:24.160 interestingly actually, I forgot to mention

00:51:26.480 that in this article

00:51:28.380 one of our friends

00:51:30.700 here, the Hope

00:51:32.480 Not Hate rally said it was gathering to

00:51:34.540 stand up against racism and bigotry

00:51:36.560 so I didn't realise Canada has its own

00:51:38.540 hope not hate cell. No I didn't

00:51:40.780 But here we are.

00:51:42.020 They're one of our forms on our side,

00:51:43.860 although they've still yet to do a write-up on me,

00:51:46.260 which I'm bitterly resentful about.

00:51:48.060 Please, if you're watching Hope Not Hate,

00:51:49.640 recognise my work.

00:51:51.320 Who's funding them, by the way?

00:51:53.080 The UK government.

00:51:54.480 Right.

00:51:55.360 So, could you go back?

00:51:58.520 Oh, sorry.

00:51:58.960 The Hope Not Hate thing.

00:52:00.500 It's stand up against racism and bigotry

00:52:03.140 that wants closed borders by closing your borders.

00:52:06.780 Yes, exactly.

00:52:08.420 Of course, there's hypocrisy here.

00:52:10.780 And then one of the final things I wanted to end on is that

00:52:14.060 one of the wonderful things about all of this persecution

00:52:16.320 is that it makes a lot of noise.

00:52:18.700 And the good thing about noise is there is this thing called the Streisand effect.

00:52:22.600 And what it does is it draws attention to your movement.

00:52:25.620 And so this sort of thing always backfires

00:52:27.460 because not only does it make you feel like you're on target

00:52:30.220 because the government's coming after you for your legal rights,

00:52:33.800 but also the wonderful thing is that they saw

00:52:36.280 an incredible uptick in membership and donations from all of this.

00:52:40.780 fanfare about them holding a conference and so in the end actually all it did was make it more

00:52:47.500 worthwhile for them to do it in the first place um so that's one of the wonderful things about this

00:52:51.760 is that um they still haven't cotton on to the fact that the more they make a fuss the more it

00:52:57.420 draws attention to it and the more it draws attention to it the more people want to be

00:53:00.500 involved in it so uh that's at least a positive that's a marketing campaign because what they

00:53:06.780 what frequently they don't get is that when you sort of have a rising sentiment that nothing

00:53:14.360 changes and that all parties are essentially different facets of the same policy and you have

00:53:20.760 some people that you single out and you say they differ from the cordon sanitaire so let's build a

00:53:27.300 firewall against them such as the firewall against the afd in germany what it does and i'm not

00:53:33.560 necessarily saying that there there are good people everywhere but what it does is to make

00:53:39.000 them politically within quotation marks sexier it doesn't work no it doesn't it doesn't work and 0.98

00:53:46.760 the examples for this are endless and i'll just give you another example of the the islamic

00:53:51.700 revolution happened for this reason it's because the shah was saying essentially that there will

00:53:57.140 will be no political opposition to him and everyone was everyone who was against the

00:54:02.520 the Shah was okay let's go vote Khomeini doesn't this put us in the awkward position then of

00:54:08.460 wanting our politicians to become more you could say big status so that we can fund ourselves more

00:54:13.620 effectively well obviously there's a sort of sweet spot a Goldilocks zone in this you don't want too

00:54:20.140 much because then everything will be shut down but at the same time as this continues to backfire

00:54:26.040 it's a good thing to um to capitalize on of course it's still making people's lives more difficult

00:54:32.060 and the ideal of course is that we live in a society where you don't have to worry about

00:54:37.400 this happening in the first place and you can succeed on your own merits rather than by your 0.98

00:54:42.280 enemies being stupid until the government finds a reason to seize their their assets because they 0.97

00:54:46.960 think that they're facilitating terroristic activity well i mean they seized the assets of 1.00

00:54:51.200 the uh the freedom blockade didn't they in the covid yes they did as the truckers protest but

00:54:56.580 anyway that was the end of my update on canada great let's read the comments by that's a random

00:55:02.460 name the thing about canada is that nothing ever happens here so everything is centered around what

00:55:08.220 happens everywhere else especially in the us it's why so many canadians have tds to be honest i think

00:55:14.700 that things happen everywhere but also this is a thing uh that has to do with the with the fact

00:55:22.320 that the left is internationally minded and organized that's why we constantly have female

00:55:28.040 trans liberation will never be complete without gaza's liberation that's the whole way of linking

00:55:34.420 everything in a way that makes zero sense that's a random name says stelis is a hundred percent 0.86

00:55:40.140 correct about our insane laws that's definitely the way to win me over a lot of the population

00:55:46.360 are completely brainwashed which is why i faith post like i do it's therapy for me la mau can't

00:55:52.920 spell canak without cuck thank you for warning me about that you're fed posting which is why i'm not 0.57

00:55:59.020 going to read your next post but a certain event is a prank gone wrong in quotation marks is one

00:56:05.440 yeah right so should we go to the third segment yes so uh jason arday as as we know he was very

00:56:13.520 recently exposed as a a bit of a an academic fraud shall we say he had an extremely privileged

00:56:22.340 position he was literally in i think the the chair at the department of education at um at

00:56:28.920 Cambridge University and somebody called Nathan Koffler as you may have heard may have heard of

00:56:35.540 him published an article on Substack basically exposing something that had been passed on to him

00:56:42.320 which is that the guy basically has a track record of plagiarism and this what he didn't

00:56:48.080 just plagiarize his thesis which is which of course was the launching pad for his entire

00:56:53.560 academic career he proceeded to plagiarize multiple essays not even subtly and even used

00:57:02.780 illegitimate qualitative research techniques by literally just asking his mates to essentially

00:57:08.520 strengthen a thesis that he was presenting i haven't heard that part before but that's really

00:57:13.760 poor research yeah nathan goes into far more detail about that but obviously the mainstream

00:57:19.900 media got wind of this

00:57:21.940 eventually despite trying not

00:57:24.120 to embolden the

00:57:25.820 claims at the start

00:57:27.420 and the pylon got

00:57:29.940 obviously so serious

00:57:31.600 that he felt compelled to take his own

00:57:34.140 life which was announced

00:57:36.040 on the 14th of August

00:57:38.260 I suppose what I

00:57:39.960 want to use this segment

00:57:42.140 to discuss is what the nature

00:57:44.220 of the tragedy ultimately is here

00:57:45.920 because I'm deeply unsatisfied

00:57:48.000 with how it's been

00:57:49.400 covered there seems to be dogmatic factions on all on all sides there seems to be obviously

00:57:57.300 the standard anti-racism the murdoch empire killed him side um i'll begin by showing a um a

00:58:06.480 a little snippet of something that uh you'd find at the notting hill carnival over the weekend

00:58:11.620 which is do i have access to the mail to the males yeah so this is a um something done for

00:58:18.120 obviously in service of it's a mural honoring and it's a mural honoring jason ardo

00:58:24.620 a features testimonies from his students and challenges plagiarism thing but when it comes

00:58:32.940 to this let me just say two things to add to your point yeah and to the contextualization of uh of

00:58:39.680 what you were talking about he wasn't just someone who plagiarized he was a serious serial fabulist

00:58:45.440 and someone who constantly weaponized allegations of racism against people who challenged him within

00:58:52.720 academia and within academia the allegation of racism is something that is almost like a career

00:58:59.940 killer and when it comes to the plagiarism we need to be very uh open and clear about what's

00:59:07.980 happened here yeah it isn't just a completely subjective thing where people say accuse each

00:59:14.160 other of being a fraud you stole the idea from me uh coughness in this article in pre-academics

00:59:19.700 before coughness there were multiple academics who knew who were aware of this yeah they had

00:59:25.180 more than a hundred passages that were literally copy pasted from a phd that was public that was

00:59:32.540 passed six years before he passed his own they know which it is and they know the passages so

00:59:38.260 this isn't this isn't debatable no no it's completely uncontroversial it isn't like you

00:59:44.560 said something and i've heard i've heard someone saying that before in the history of mankind

00:59:49.700 this is copy paste there's literally no way that anyone with a dose of good judgment would have

00:59:56.360 let that pass unless it was someone who they they knew was fibbing about stuff yeah well the only 0.95

01:00:02.700 reason he's got a mural is because he was black let's be honest if this were a white black autistic 0.96

01:00:08.900 person that rose to the highest echelons of academic power yes and also um he was a black 0.92

01:00:14.080 person who was quite anti-white right yeah um and that's why he's got a mural let's not beat around

01:00:19.480 the bush here if it were just a regular academic that was caught out for plagiarism there certainly

01:00:24.520 wouldn't be a mural honoring them would no but nathan kofnas his article was completely and

01:00:30.080 utterly vindicated to the point that Cambridge is now obviously conducting an um if we could get

01:00:35.340 the next um the next one up here but it didn't change the fact that he was still suspended by

01:00:42.100 his employer not because of course he had done anything wrong by publishing this essay on

01:00:48.340 because he was just literally sharing details that had been passed on to him or offering his

01:00:53.080 own critical analysis but wasn't the uh person who suspended him also uh originally born a

01:01:03.800 different sex to what they were i didn't i didn't know that yeah it's a comment on the the state of

01:01:09.860 the university system that you can throw a dart the reason for banning him was because they saw

01:01:13.940 him as complicit in the fact that our day had proceeded to take his own life which is an

01:01:18.400 absolutely ridiculous accusation of course and if we go on to the next um by the way it's worth

01:01:23.640 checking because um i've been told that uh perhaps the suspension was itself revoked it was yes it

01:01:31.080 was okay which is um what's covered here because a u.s ambassador to um to belgium obviously heard

01:01:38.080 about this case disagreed with it considerably and um have reached an amicable agreement to lift

01:01:43.680 his suspension which will enable him to complete his one year postdoctoral appointment but i do i

01:01:48.880 do think he's what is it not allowed on the campus for still enough like another three months or

01:01:53.820 something like that but if you're a postdoc then chances are you don't really need to go like that

01:01:58.760 off from home it sounds better than normal to be honest yeah yeah but he basically kofner's did

01:02:04.020 absolutely nothing wrong by publishing what he did but ultimately um these are to be to be really

01:02:12.620 fair to the situation and to to him this is something that you can understand why academics

01:02:19.480 would want to not incentivize but if you actually pull it through and he did it's you have to respect

01:02:27.720 it yeah and he went about it in a respectful way as well like he did actually reach out to our day

01:02:33.340 himself to to see if he could actually or to offer him the opportunity of a response and he simply

01:02:38.380 he never replied or at least that's what nathan said anyway but if we can move on to the next clip

01:02:43.700 here the most predictable response of course has been from the anti-racist lobby who want this all

01:02:50.340 all to be about the fact that yeah they want to say that he was killed by the people who

01:02:58.160 criticized them yes because but yeah i'll let you yeah and of course the good law project

01:03:03.940 who is

01:03:05.160 I think one of, who is that awful lawyer?

01:03:07.800 I can't remember his name.

01:03:10.000 There are so many.

01:03:11.200 There are so many, but obviously they've completely

01:03:13.740 got behind this agenda, you

01:03:15.760 could say. If we go to the next one.

01:03:17.580 Diane Ablett as well.

01:03:19.280 Dr. Shola is obviously being 1.00

01:03:21.040 normally predictable.

01:03:23.760 Professor Jason Arde should still be with us.

01:03:25.700 Rest in peace. Rest in perfect

01:03:27.680 peace. Sorry.

01:03:29.760 May your enemies know no peace.

01:03:31.720 Now that use of enemy is quite interesting.

01:03:33.940 isn't it a little bit uh it sort of implies a certain degree of hostility that is overcoming

01:03:43.600 of political discourse that's the polite way of putting it which also is something um directed

01:03:49.020 towards people who mostly for the most part did something completely understandable which was

01:03:54.740 criticizing him yeah coming out of a who was above his station basically yeah exactly and that's

01:04:00.620 that's not something we can do without in society i mean if dr shola was here to speak for herself

01:04:05.720 i would ask who do you who do you mean by enemies the people that disagreed with him the people who

01:04:10.900 actually cite their sources yes for example that's who she means yeah who yeah who actually um try to

01:04:16.880 uphold the standards of academic integrity you know in service of the department that he worked

01:04:21.260 for are those the enemies well she's one of those people that's what is it the people banging the

01:04:26.560 about how ridiculous this all is are they the enemies she's one of those people that um her

01:04:32.040 ethnic allegiance is so great that you know even calling out the truth is is far beyond whatever 0.71

01:04:38.980 your political persuasion this should really make you blimmin angry for whatever reason if we move

01:04:44.100 on to the next one we can see so even james o'brien has basically had to admit that he got that his

01:04:49.860 take was bad because i think he didn't he interviewed jason our day like a a while ago

01:04:56.140 glowing interview also jason arday was was buttering up james o'brien saying that he was

01:05:02.180 like standing up and he's an inspiration and and it turns out that james o'brien can actually be

01:05:08.580 nice to people yeah but just have to really compliment his ego but even james had the

01:05:13.100 humility to say that well look i was totally schmoozed by this guy and he was such a good

01:05:18.040 schmoozer that even i bought it and that maybe that is some pretty constructive evidence for

01:05:24.460 how he's got where he is in his academic career so if we move on to the next one this obviously

01:05:30.560 this is more the more conservative take that i will address in a minute but i simply do not buy

01:05:37.320 the view that jason arday got where he was because he was a good talker he was a he was obviously and

01:05:44.160 we know this now a pretty compulsive liar if you look at his cv and the positions that he's

01:05:52.720 documented to have he has got about three senior lecture hips to his name before he even got a phd 0.50

01:05:59.980 now obviously me me and stelios have worked in these echelons of academia how likely is it that

01:06:05.500 someone who doesn't have a phd gets a senior lectureship or professional lectureship of any

01:06:10.240 kind no it's not particularly likely it doesn't happen no it doesn't have does not happen all

01:06:15.560 the universities that um he's he claimed to have been affiliated with other than cambridge

01:06:23.460 denied their affiliation afterwards yeah or before it was obviously too late it's a bit yeah

01:06:30.060 it's a bit late but the point is there is absolutely no way that on applying

01:06:34.780 i mean this is assuming of course that he presented the cv to all of the postdoc jobs

01:06:39.840 he'd proceed to get no employment committee or interviewer would look at that and think this guy

01:06:46.080 is serious so i so either they overlooked those details for another reason entirely

01:06:52.020 because he was linked in final boss yeah he had all of the right you know ticks in the the uh

01:06:59.060 the demographic chart they must have known they absolutely must have known and that's what this

01:07:05.040 is why i mean what would have underwritten that desire to print to present someone of of or to

01:07:12.760 push someone of jason arday's caliber to the highest echelons of academia dei of course it

01:07:18.940 makes everybody ultimately look good in the hr department it makes the university look good it's

01:07:23.700 a it's a wonderful story on his cv i mean if he hadn't act like for example running 12 marathons

01:07:30.060 in 30 days uh 13 35 days please don't down please don't no no no i'm not i know i know for a fact

01:07:38.300 that he like that he said that he had completed 30 marathons in 35 days that was a lie but

01:07:43.480 completing 12 marathons in 35 does he still blooming good that that was verified wasn't it

01:07:50.040 i think you are downplaying his achievements because the last nine verified the last nine

01:07:55.620 um marathons he ran he ran and completed with a fractured oh okay with a fractured leg doesn't

01:08:02.780 that hang on doesn't that make it with an even better achievement if he had a fractured leg

01:08:06.560 yeah he said so right okay but if he said i'll trust this bro it was according to my research

01:08:17.180 verified that he had indeed completed 12 marathons he also claimed that he raised millions for

01:08:24.100 charity which turned out to be fabrication he raised thousands i don't know 380 380 pounds

01:08:31.840 380 was it he said he raised i've actually raised more money for charity then yes so have i

01:08:37.260 oh that's all right i'm co-hosting with two very charitable people here not with my own

01:08:42.440 you just have a piece he said he raised 5.5 million pounds and then and then the response

01:08:49.040 was no he just raised three i thought it was literally just like three or four thousand

01:08:53.540 no even even divided by 10 but anyway look raising any can we just agree that raising

01:08:59.480 any money for charity is a good thing the fact that he lied about it is of course terrible

01:09:04.840 right but especially on the volume or the weight that he's lying but there is absolutely no way

01:09:12.340 in short that you can look at someone who's claiming all of these things and think that

01:09:17.000 they're being honest and the fact that he reached the highest echelons of political of of academia

01:09:22.760 is it itself said something about well well it says the lack of purposive screening you're

01:09:32.160 absolutely correct and what it says is something that we both know from academia but also josh

01:09:37.560 will not find particularly hard to believe is that there was a bias such to the effect that

01:09:43.400 well he's black don't criticize it i mean even just doing a master's degree i saw that sort of

01:09:49.100 thing right although it wasn't that rife in the psychology department it isn't just happening in

01:09:54.880 academia it's everywhere yeah but if i may get to the um the obviously we can argue about the

01:10:00.700 details because it's a very it's very cloudy when someone lies so much and you have people

01:10:05.880 obviously volunteering on his behalf to try to cover up the extent that he lied which i think

01:10:10.080 might have been what happened with my own research here but we have to ask the broader question

01:10:15.760 of who is ultimately to blame for the fact that this has happened i don't just i don't just mean

01:10:21.680 the fact that someone who is a professional plagiarist got to enjoy an epic an academic

01:10:27.300 career like he did which is a privilege for any any academic of serious merit but how it actually

01:10:35.260 got to the point where well he killed himself ultimately because i don't think you can pass

01:10:40.540 the buck over this there are many many factors involved here the one thing i will say is that

01:10:48.380 on the um the anti-racist lobbies side i agree insofar as this pile-on culture doesn't blimmin

01:10:55.540 help because because as bad as bad as what he's done is the accusations tend to get more extreme

01:11:06.940 the more people have an opinion on it to the point that it even does a disservice to him and and

01:11:12.700 whether he actually goes through with something along the lines of taking his own life and whether

01:11:18.100 he doesn't can go down to those details that he's being accused of he was obviously humiliated on

01:11:22.800 such a scale but he didn't he couldn't his entire identity based on myth had been completely

01:11:30.360 destroyed that's still a bad thing well there's the obvious thing here is that if he couldn't

01:11:36.480 handle the pressure why was he placed what did he go after a public facing position but he was also

01:11:45.420 encouraged to do it yeah i think he took he took the he he did it yes he yes he did it but this

01:11:53.100 i think i've got a good analogy to describe how i see this and that is this is effectively

01:11:58.460 the breaking bad of academia if walter white was played by jay cartwright of the in-betweeners

01:12:05.560 and if you're going to look at the nature of the immorality what happens in breaking bad it all

01:12:11.240 begins with walt being diagnosed of cancer and him having a an ego complex about being effectively

01:12:17.020 kicked out of his um or he basically sold himself short with the what's the project called that went

01:12:24.560 on to make gray matter gray matter exactly and it's that resentment that drove him to become

01:12:29.320 what he was i see jason arday as a a lesson obviously much less intellectually scrupulous

01:12:36.620 person who is on a similar kind of track none of this would have happened if he didn't have

01:12:44.780 a cartel of radicals hell-bent on reifying this metaphysics of inclusivity and i think more blame

01:12:53.640 is on them than anybody else for the fact that this has happened because he was effectively put

01:12:59.840 on a conveyor belt where you've got all the the yanlard the yanlard yard sorry class clapping

01:13:07.860 along as someone who meets their profile of the messiah effectively or at least the myth anyway

01:13:13.880 cashing in on that celebrating it openly as as the product of an honest success and intellectual

01:13:23.160 venture only only to then say oh we need an inquiry after he's been after he's killed himself

01:13:30.880 i think though he was more responsible than um than he is made to be because if you check

01:13:38.120 the way that his boss interacted with him on camera he he had the power why because she said

01:13:47.280 we agree with you you're the best in the world but he was asking the questions and he was asking her

01:13:52.880 how are how is this people are going to say this is a tokenistic appointment what are you going to

01:13:58.600 do what are you going to do in order to ensure that this isn't just the the exception but my

01:14:04.600 example is going to become the norm so as far as i'm concerned he was definitely someone who

01:14:10.520 understood power dynamics and he was able to sort of handle her in a way he did know how to manipulate

01:14:18.780 her and she did want to be manipulated that's because he knew that that's the power that he

01:14:26.000 could wield because he knew the religion effectively inside out i mean obviously we've

01:14:30.220 questioned his academic credentials but i think we can be pretty certain he knew precisely what

01:14:34.740 the metaphysics of intersectional feminism is yeah i mean literally everybody does yes so he's simply

01:14:39.800 wielding that thing that he knows he already has he already has the power because he's recognized

01:14:44.460 himself as the person who effectively is the embodiment of everything they want everybody to

01:14:51.000 be. They want to restructure society along the lines of Jason Arde. But behind that myth is an

01:14:57.620 actual person who's been taken for a fall, I'm afraid to say. And he was genuinely autistic as 0.52

01:15:03.160 well. Let's not forget that if I had that many people mollycoddling me for being autistic, for

01:15:09.460 having adhd for example i probably would feel compelled to believe to believe half of what

01:15:15.300 they say and i and it would become a prerogative to believe what they say because in order to stay

01:15:21.220 in the game you've got to double down and this is where the breaking bad analogy comes in walter

01:15:25.900 white at the beginning at the beginning of the process is not that bad a bloke he's a resentful

01:15:30.940 egoist who's failed in his career he turns into a monster because of the coercive power that he 0.96

01:15:36.240 has to will to keep his skin in the game well this is a rubbish version of that yeah excuse me but

01:15:42.300 this is this is something that many people face throughout their lives and if being an adult as

01:15:48.880 a responsible human being means that occasionally you have to deal with very you have to deal with

01:15:54.780 pressure when it comes to when it comes to the media storm he could just close it media storms

01:16:01.800 don't last I don't I don't I don't entirely disagree but if you lean into that too much

01:16:06.260 it absolves academia of its role in this I think because it is because it this is

01:16:12.760 the perfect expression of the scandal that the humanities are can we all agree on that at the

01:16:19.560 very least well certainly and I think my perspective on it is that I agree that the conditions were

01:16:26.440 such in academia that it allowed him to exist but he also reveled in in the notoriety we got the

01:16:34.060 perfect uh thumbnail up here he did lots of media appearances so he was not only lying to get where

01:16:40.120 he was and the system allowed him to but also he wasn't exactly subtle about it and he used his

01:16:45.740 his lies to position himself as a public facing figure and even with the position that basically

01:16:52.660 was given to him by white guilt then used his position to spew anti-white bile so i although

01:16:59.940 i didn't want him to kill himself obviously i'm not exactly sorry to see him gone either there's

01:17:05.420 moral capability on his part of that i have absolutely no doubt in the same way there's

01:17:10.840 moral culpability on the part of walter white in breaking bad but the stage was set for something

01:17:16.040 like this to already happen if it wasn't jason our day it would have been someone else the outcome

01:17:20.800 wouldn't be the same if not well it's i suppose where i'm going with this ultimately is academics

01:17:26.020 professors in humanities departments if you actually care that much about diversity i mean

01:17:31.980 forget the diversity bit because that's just sophistry but the equity and the inclusion part

01:17:36.640 you want to bring about a society that's fairer for everybody irrespective of race and you do

01:17:40.900 believe for example that we have to go to slightly more since austere measures than liberals would

01:17:47.060 have you accept then at least open the pathway for an internal inquiry into how something like

01:17:53.120 this blimmin happens because right now we're not allowed to anything that challenges the current 0.77

01:17:58.940 metaphysics of diversity equity and inclusion is shut down you can't get funding if you're a white

01:18:04.100 guy forget it that wants to conduct this research even if you're arguing from a radical or an

01:18:11.120 orthodox marxist perspective that this is containment for capitalism you can't talk about

01:18:15.380 there are plenty of sociologists from the original critical or the pre-critical faith tradition who

01:18:21.160 have been making these points who don't actually get their voices heard on this because these

01:18:25.380 militant dei people these religious fanatics will not have it and that these are the people that i

01:18:32.600 blame for this right i'm sorry i think we're talking about a very complex event and perhaps

01:18:37.440 the best way this is the result of a complex to resolve it is to say that there is two there is

01:18:42.980 responsibility for different things about it because you could say that whether even if he

01:18:48.380 didn't kill himself uh academia would still be culpable would still be responsible for what

01:18:55.280 happened and not just for him or the fact that for instance so many uh students got a bad education

01:19:02.080 got a far worse education that they would have got gotten otherwise i think the moral culpability

01:19:08.260 doesn't change how you apportion it

01:19:12.060 depending on what happens in the aftermath, to be honest.

01:19:15.040 I think it's still the same no matter what happened.

01:19:18.100 Yeah, I think he took his own life,

01:19:20.520 but academia placed him in such a position.

01:19:25.040 And yeah, they failed the education system.

01:19:28.880 They failed other researchers who went after the same job.

01:19:32.880 They failed the students because I will agree with you.

01:19:36.180 And fundamentally, I think that essentially, what happens here is that we have the metaphysics of inclusivity, as you mentioned, that focus on representation far more than they do on merit. And this is letting everyone down, because it says, well, if you're a black student, you will go to the class and you'll see a black professor and you'll feel good. Fine. 0.96

01:20:03.660 you may feel elated or enthusiastic but this enthusiasm is going to die down in two hours

01:20:10.320 max but meanwhile you are being given this while a better education is taken away from you yes

01:20:19.920 which damages your actual potential for getting ahead and that's without going into the moral

01:20:26.160 crime that is inflicted on the underrepresented as in the people who they're literally trying to

01:20:31.960 remove from sight they talk about for example this representation as being important but they

01:20:37.660 then don't want to apply how for example when you adjust a an institution or a structure so as to

01:20:44.280 have less of one types of people what effect that's going to have they won't allow these

01:20:48.940 questions to be had why i think it's yeah but you have to it's in the interests of sociology and

01:20:55.480 critical theory to ask these questions god forbid it's even in service of social progress to ask

01:21:01.760 those questions why will you not have it but also you could say that i don't care about sociology

01:21:06.820 and i don't care about the state of critical theory i care about society and this is bad

01:21:12.160 for society turning our backs on meritocracy is bad it it leads to the very idea that a job has

01:21:20.980 to get done fly under the radar and all focus is placed on who gets the job competence has got to

01:21:27.520 be the metric that's got to be the deciding factor i accept that some believe that you we have to do

01:21:33.360 more by the way of positive action to make sure that opportunity is available to all people i

01:21:37.880 don't believe that that's not my view but it's a position i respect i just don't agree with it

01:21:42.340 but to say to completely absolve any of the academics or the people who appointed him as

01:21:48.280 not culpable and to blame the so-called murdoch empire or the people rightfully holding him to

01:21:53.360 account is almost a as is immoral beyond measure yeah they're very they definitely have some yeah

01:22:01.280 get honestly give up the grift now because literally someone has sorry no no just i'm just

01:22:08.940 very angry i i like the passion yeah no honestly it does make me angry yeah and if it were the my

01:22:15.080 first time of presenting this i'd be i'd be i'd be i'd be angry as well so no i i agree with you

01:22:21.600 that there is there is a culpability here from on behalf of the academics and they're trying to say

01:22:27.360 now well it's the bad people who criticized him who are to blame poor little him psychological

01:22:33.360 harm he couldn't stand the criticism but it's all okay with us placing him in a public facing

01:22:38.640 position yeah thank you very much yes no you're welcome let's move to the comment that's a random

01:22:46.560 name thank you very much for your posts today but i will try to read before because you just said

01:22:52.660 you're a fed poster that one's not though yeah okay may i point you to my first comment about

01:22:57.880 agency it's all about agency fictages says dude jason lied about a pig's head and being threatened

01:23:04.800 after investigation there was nothing no one encouraged jason to do those lies this is true

01:23:10.240 he did say that a that a pig head was brought on his uh bed had he recently watched um the godfather

01:23:20.460 with the horse yeah yeah but the point is that he told the police and he told them also the butcher

01:23:26.620 from which the pig was allegedly stolen how could i mean you know you might be a good academic but

01:23:33.520 how can you tell where the pig's head has come from okay okay um and so no one encouraged jason

01:23:39.880 to uh to lie and uh underneath let's uh here we've discovered the that's random name uh we've

01:23:49.540 discovered our enemy's weakness there is at um and he says that the loss of is at uh shot him

01:23:56.460 literally and again fallen fireboard will say that stelis is wrong about who shola considers an enemy 0.76

01:24:03.500 she doesn't mean anything academic she means white people who she racially hates our days one less

01:24:09.660 and he says that he isn't particularly sympathetic with our day right let's go to the to the 0.50

01:24:16.700 the videos hello lotus eaters uh today's monday i'm enjoying you watching you live um i'm going

01:24:26.320 to be enjoying my uh final two days of freedom uh before my sensing date on this wednesday

01:24:31.920 all this for tweets um yeah i'm going to be spending at least 14 months in jail for tweets

01:24:37.140 but uh i've got you to look forward to with my uh white monster uh can i've never tried this

01:24:43.760 before but i've heard it's all the mimic rage online and some some fried chicken so there's

01:24:49.620 that let's go to the next one so just to steal man the foreign policy of nato regarding the

01:24:59.000 Ukraine war is that it kind of makes sense that they would want to get Russia embroiled

01:25:03.280 in an existential war can't pull out of, because it gives NATO a free hand to act against

01:25:08.600 the allies of Russia, and honestly, the Russian sphere has been decimated during these last 0.78

01:25:14.480 few years, it's just that NATO has become so dysgenic in its industry and expertise

01:25:19.720 that they simply lack the skill to actually pull any of these operations off to their

01:25:24.540 completion, hence why the Iran war is a complete failure.

01:25:29.000 NATO's not involved in the Iran war, is it?

01:25:32.320 Yeah, and I also think that it would take about five years of increased funding

01:25:40.620 of many of the other NATO countries for them to turn things around.

01:25:46.020 And in fact, there's a lot of military technology being developed

01:25:49.460 in both Europe and North America that is cutting edge

01:25:54.240 and some of the best in the world.

01:25:56.220 It's just a matter of doing it at scale.

01:25:58.660 and industrial capacity in particular

01:26:00.620 with drone warfare is the main thing

01:26:02.840 and the only thing

01:26:04.720 you really need to be saying about

01:26:06.840 militaries these days is

01:26:08.820 we need more factories

01:26:10.080 that's the main metric

01:26:12.280 that's the avenue you want to push through

01:26:13.840 there is a massive caveat to that as well

01:26:16.180 and that is the development of this technology is in great

01:26:18.720 deal dependent

01:26:20.260 on the information that we share with Israel

01:26:22.740 because they are 0.79

01:26:24.160 pretty much masters

01:26:25.800 of military technology, relatively speaking.

01:26:31.240 Yeah, when they get a lot of funding from the US

01:26:33.360 and they get lots of neighbours to try it out on.

01:26:35.580 That's not something I'm advocating.

01:26:37.080 I'm just stating a geopolitical reality.

01:26:40.200 Let's look at the next one.

01:26:48.640 This is a very wholesome video.

01:26:51.400 These are my favourite places in the UK.

01:26:54.200 just watch notting hill carnival videos and you forgot what twerking is all about

01:27:06.800 i do still love the r and li despite the fact that they are and in fact are anti-order force

01:27:12.640 in dover well when they're not in in and around dover they're fine right yeah let's go to the

01:27:19.740 Comments, I'll start. 0.99

01:27:22.140 Michael Dribelbiz, the left needs illegals to do the jobs that the natives won't. 1.00

01:27:26.880 Like, vote left. 1.00

01:27:28.560 Yes.

01:27:29.600 HM button-off permit registry.

01:27:31.540 Human rights are always argued by the...

01:27:35.520 I can't say that. 0.96

01:27:37.120 To protect the...

01:27:38.760 Anyway, human rights are supposed to be for criminals, right.

01:27:43.880 That's a random name.

01:27:45.180 Chocolate person monkey emoji.

01:27:47.300 the third world doesn't actually have the revolutionary potential to overthrow capitalism

01:27:52.620 they actually have the revolutionary potential to overthrow civilization 1.00

01:27:57.140 which is why if they were to remove us they'll immediately turn on the libtards 0.99

01:28:02.060 um geordie swordsman the irgc bunker must have been funny after they made contact

01:28:07.700 remember how we put all the commies up against blah blah blah he's talking about the crane

01:28:15.320 treatment after the islamic revolution that leftists received and says well you're not going

01:28:20.400 to believe this right josh you want to sure alex ergal says any analysis of canada's tyranny will

01:28:26.920 be incomplete unless you look at the horrific propaganda of the canadian mainstream media my

01:28:31.280 radio alarm is set to the local cbc station i do that because i'd rather be up and doing anything

01:28:36.540 than listening to that propaganda students activists experts community leaders are all

01:28:41.140 trotted out to push the woke narrative i presume you commented that before i explicitly talked

01:28:46.440 about the cbc and how they were propaganda and how you know that sort of thing and in which case

01:28:52.520 i'll take it as i've done a job well done there and then janvi says i can't count the number of

01:28:58.260 times canada has been warned about uh calistani terror and that no one from india should be

01:29:04.140 allowed to be granted entry into canada on the basis of refugee status but they keep allowing 0.69

01:29:08.940 it and keep defending these terrorists as canadian nationals are kalistanis some of the separatists

01:29:15.020 in the north in the punjab area i'm not entirely sure to be honest but it's piqued my interest i

01:29:19.820 might look into it um because i didn't really realize because the the gentleman i should

01:29:24.080 gentlemen the man i showed on the screen looked like a sikh fellow didn't he i didn't realize

01:29:29.020 they had uh sikh terrorists but uh i'm gonna gonna do some research on that one okay and i

01:29:36.380 can read the comments uh john vs says the jason orday case is really tragic and i honestly feel

01:29:42.640 bad for him the establishment that allowed him to reach this point when he didn't deserve his

01:29:47.740 position is more to blame than those that criticized him for the plagiarism i fully agree

01:29:51.840 yeah i fully agree that's uh a vote for thomas yes right thumbs up michael drabelba's sad thing

01:29:58.880 about jason orday is he could have easily pivoted and said that he was doing this to research di

01:30:04.080 in the corruption of academia but then our day wasn't really that smart anyway just a great 0.98

01:30:09.340 grifter against academics too weak to call out bullshit yep pretty much annie moss says jason 0.95

01:30:15.820 or they single-handedly handed oxford the win of the most prestigious university in england 0.98

01:30:20.940 something that they had been angling for a century cambridge lost the plot when they promoted a

01:30:27.580 serial fabulous to a professorship i think that's true as well though i can't see oxford revoking

01:30:32.700 their their own dei policy anytime soon yeah i mean when i went to university to my master's

01:30:38.500 um cambridge was lower than the university i went to i'm not going to say which one it is because i

01:30:43.560 want to keep my master's degree but um they've been on the decline for quite a while now i think

01:30:48.460 speaking of which i think i might lose my phd after this segment good luck you won't don't

01:30:53.480 worry lancelot says the people around our day are searching for anyone to play for him his fate but

01:30:59.300 themselves no okay yeah they that is just victim blaming to be honest okay but i mean you can say

01:31:12.560 that he did have some responsibility for yes look if it were me for instance you could say that he

01:31:19.140 would he should have thought well i have i have two kids i i effed up so of course he has

01:31:25.080 responsibility for taking his own life but that absolves the people that basically put him on that

01:31:29.720 plank of the blame for it every person has that has their limits there was a point that every

01:31:35.500 human being has where not existing is more appealing than actually continuing with things

01:31:40.740 as they are and i think that's one of the smears at that obvious fact still man what you're saying

01:31:45.900 academia has a duty and one of those duties probably one of the main ones is to keep out 0.98

01:31:50.840 idiots yes and that's where it failed and that this is the result of that yeah but i mean i 0.99

01:31:56.080 won't go because i dislike for instance academia to say that academia killed him i think he killed 0.99

01:32:01.680 himself well he literally killed himself yes but he would not have killed himself if academia

01:32:05.980 wasn't how it was both are significant determining factors okay so uh thank you very much you're

01:32:13.540 welcome thanks josh thank you thomas a pleasure it has been a pleasure and i really liked uh

01:32:19.420 your segment and i really like the whole podcast josh i like your segment as well thank you not

01:32:24.680 did you guys like my segment loved it that was all right i'm joking i'm joking yes i did

01:32:29.560 okay i hope you like the the podcast today and um see you tomorrow at 1 p.m

01:32:36.800 have a good afternoon bye

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 01, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1496

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