The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1516

00:00:00.100 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the podcast, The Lotus Eaters, for Tuesday, the 29th of September, 2026.

00:00:06.180 I'm joined by Harry Stelios and Luke, sorry, Tyler Johnson. Got that right.

00:00:11.680 The restored Britain candidate for Holborn and St Pancras.

00:00:14.660 And today we're going to be talking about how the Labour Party are embarrassing and insane,

00:00:19.440 and will probably ruin everything, which isn't going to be terribly surprising.

00:00:23.100 The chaos that's been going down in Holborn and St Pancras has been a lot more exciting than I was expecting it to be.

00:00:27.600 I'm sure you can give us plenty of insight into that.

00:00:29.460 Can't wait.

00:00:30.000 Yeah, great. Absolutely.

00:00:31.880 And then the dark side of care homes, because we are being told, well, we need to import a million Bermalians in order to care for the old people.

00:00:40.760 And the quality of the care is slightly questionable, should we say?

00:00:45.420 I don't know what you're looking at me for.

00:00:46.640 Well, you were looking at me, so I was just, you know, anyway.

00:00:49.520 Depends who you ask.

00:00:50.500 One side says boomers have gone completely feral, battle royale on care workers.

00:00:56.100 The other side says the exact opposite.

00:00:59.000 We'll see.

00:01:00.000 I guess we'll see.

00:01:00.960 I thought the main boomer problem in care homes

00:01:02.740 would be the insane STD transmission rates that go on in there.

00:01:07.160 Another very strange feature of care homes, isn't it?

00:01:10.840 Anyway, right, let's talk about something that doesn't involve that.

00:01:13.880 So the Labour Party are deranged and they're going to destroy us.

00:01:17.620 Now, they're not just deranged.

00:01:19.240 What's even worse about the Labour Party

00:01:21.140 is the more exposure we have to Andy Burnham's Labour Party,

00:01:25.240 the more it becomes apparent that they're also a pack of complete amateurs as well.

00:01:29.660 This has been noticed by the public at large,

00:01:32.340 because as you may have seen,

00:01:34.000 there are a lot of videos going around

00:01:35.780 calling Andy Burnham the David Brent politics,

00:01:39.580 because he seems to actually do all of the things

00:01:42.260 that David Brent did in the office.

00:01:44.640 He plays his guitar, he gives his little speeches,

00:01:47.420 he's kind of embarrassing, but it's not just him.

00:01:50.760 In the same way that Keir Starmer's Labour Party

00:01:52.780 all took on a nasally voice,

00:01:56.020 well, Andy Burnham's Labour Party

00:01:57.800 has all taken on the aspect of David Brent.

00:01:59.640 I mean, we'll just watch this for a second.

00:02:04.080 I'm proud to introduce someone who believes

00:02:06.700 a stronger defence can also mean stronger communities

00:02:10.500 and bigger opportunities for young people like myself.

00:02:14.620 So please welcome the Secretary of State for Defence, West Streeting.

00:02:19.160 Thank you.

00:02:27.800 Thank you, Jack. That was absolutely brilliant.

00:02:33.200 And you keep being ambitious.

00:02:37.300 As for my own, like HMS Agamemnon last week, I think that ship has sailed.

00:02:44.080 But you, Jack, are a great example of the future that a stronger Britain can offer the next generation.

00:02:52.380 I wanted to put you through that cringe.

00:02:54.080 They're hardly great orators, are they?

00:02:55.940 they genuinely sound like david brent from the office in in every way in fact the joke's not

00:03:01.840 landing and the terrible rhetoric that they use um this is again so stronger defense stronger

00:03:10.820 communities wow lucy powell the current minister for education has decided to rebrand the department

00:03:16.960 of education for the department of hope my department for hope this government of hope

00:03:21.680 will put children's hopes at the very heart of everything we do and people are just like what am

00:03:25.460 listening to like it's very why do they have to change it well it's like obviously they don't

00:03:34.360 have anything new to offer they don't have anything new to to to do so they'll say we'll

00:03:39.220 just change your name and well they don't have to change it they just want to change it because

00:03:43.820 they put children's hope at the heart of everything they do they have to fill their cv i changed the

00:03:49.420 name of the department of education to department for hope i think here's here's the real question

00:03:54.840 is this more or less embarrassing than when they were the holdover party of jeremy corbyn with all

00:04:01.020 of the insane people going on stage at the conference way more about at least it's more

00:04:05.220 this is more embarrassing than when they were peak woke yes because at least when they were

00:04:09.180 peak woke they were good content for a start but also they truly believed right they truly

00:04:14.560 believed in something and so they'd come out say something ridiculous and you'd be like wow that

00:04:19.300 person's mad but at least at least there's a sincerity in it right everything about the way

00:04:23.680 they talk now has a kind of hollowness underneath it which is what the main joke of the office and

00:04:28.820 david brent was it's like well you know he's kind of crap he's kind of mediocre and now that's the

00:04:34.880 government i mean this this is a compilation of the current um chancellor of the exchequer john

00:04:41.300 healy using the word hope over and over in his party conference i mean this is the sort of thing

00:04:46.360 that callum would have made this compilation clip out of that the sky news are now doing

00:04:50.140 because it's just remarkable isn't this today i want to talk about the politics of hope hope

00:04:55.480 that is earned how we'll bring back hope hope for our young people new leadership new confidence

00:05:01.180 and new hope and hope for tomorrow creating hope again hope hope hope i see hope to write a new

00:05:08.600 chapter of hope generation hope their determination generation he has a tiny little hope again

00:05:14.920 floating by his head at all times that's such a rubbish little background this is very clearly

00:05:19.660 marketing this is this has been workshopped in some boardroom somewhere as some kind of

00:05:26.000 brand synergy that they're trying to do and it just comes across as you say as like corporate

00:05:31.580 hollow yeah naff it's completely naff all of these people are naff none of them are good at what they

00:05:39.740 do and they've all been shoveled into these positions because we've got another three years

00:05:44.660 of a Labour government. Anyway so Andy Burnham has decided right okay we're gonna he's been

00:05:50.280 he will be giving this speech at about two o'clock today but of course we know what's coming out of

00:05:54.700 it. He intends to fund defence and social care in his speech by scrapping the triple lock probably

00:06:01.820 which is pretty mad but also kind of where you'd expect Labour to go because of course pensioners

00:06:08.460 don't vote Labour they vote reform and Conservative so he's got nothing to lose there but of course

00:06:13.620 the conference's slogan is hope again and he will tell the party that hope comes from honesty

00:06:18.220 and saying the things that politicians usually avoid which is just okay anyway this reminds me

00:06:25.260 of one of the criticisms of AOC that she has nothing factual to say it's all empty rhetoric

00:06:31.180 yeah nothing not even factual just all emotional yeah what would you there's no matter of fact

00:06:37.020 there to be checked verified falsified empirically even if there was it wouldn't be very

00:06:42.760 germane to whatever is going on in the country right but anyway so Angela Rayner is planning to

00:06:47.800 steal empty houses from people I'm not joking about that actually that's actually something

00:06:53.960 they're planning on doing if you've had a house that's been empty for six months then Labour plan

00:06:59.420 on well seizing it which I'm sure will have no downstream effects on the economy or the housing

00:07:06.300 industry or anything like that as I said they're planning to end the triple lock which

00:07:12.200 does need to be done but is going to definitely have some people up at arms about this and

00:07:20.960 all of this is in the face of the people who are supporting them here's the the unite union

00:07:28.660 general secretary saying look right we are basically on our knees we've got nothing more to

00:07:33.340 give so essentially what they are they're arguing is you have to stop taxing people so much right

00:07:38.380 We have to stop this redistributive state.

00:07:42.280 But that's all that our government knows.

00:07:43.720 I mean, another thing as well, they want to nationalize the railways,

00:07:46.580 which I actually support.

00:07:48.080 But that's all the sort of normal things that you'd expect them to talk about.

00:07:53.380 I mean, maybe not stealing people's houses.

00:07:55.200 That's a bit unusual.

00:07:57.040 But then you get the sort of deranged nonsense about Israel and Palestine.

00:08:01.580 Now, what I love about this, again, is Ed Miliband,

00:08:03.460 not the world's greatest rhetorician,

00:08:05.160 but also he's trying to stand with Israel and Palestine.

00:08:08.380 Also a prime example of stuffy-nosed voice.

00:08:11.840 Oh, Sean, before you play it,

00:08:15.080 is he way more animated when he's talking about this issue

00:08:18.740 than when he's talking about any other issue that is UK-related?

00:08:22.660 Possibly second only to bacon sandwiches.

00:08:25.460 Yes.

00:08:26.340 As we think about our role in the world,

00:08:28.120 we will never be silent about injustice and suffering.

00:08:32.320 Let us state the reality about the Middle East.

00:08:34.800 The only route to peace is two states,

00:08:37.700 a secure Israel and a secure Palestine,

00:08:40.760 with freedom, dignity and self-determination for both peoples.

00:08:45.600 We all know how far away we are from that.

00:08:49.500 Hamas's murderous attack on October 7th

00:08:52.920 united the vast majority of the world in rightful condemnation.

00:08:57.980 We stand, I say, against anti-Semitism wherever we find it and in whatever form.

00:09:07.700 and this and this party will always recognize the threats israel faces and stand emphatically

00:09:16.280 against those who seek its destruction but this but this cannot justify the suffering

00:09:22.800 the netanyahu government has inflicted in gaza and the west bank this suffering

00:09:28.960 the little solemn nod yes yes i am a genius yes applause please do we think ed milliband's the

00:09:38.600 guy to thread that needle you know what let's give it a shot he hasn't been tried yet exactly

00:09:46.260 it's been rough but i think someone can stand with both israel and palestine

00:09:51.020 anyway if there's one man who can straddle that fence my god but again like poor rhetoric

00:09:58.020 weird looking guy this is the Labour Party but the worst part about this is they think of themselves

00:10:03.560 as a wartime government um he gave a speech I think we've got it here come to this conference

00:10:10.120 today to tell you that it's time to roll up our sleeves all over again because once again the

00:10:16.080 world order needs rebuilding anew we need to be honest about the world we confront war has

00:10:23.400 returned to Europe. Democratic norms are under threat as they haven't been for generations.

00:10:28.980 The international rule of law is being brazenly flouted. New threats have emerged from the climate

00:10:34.900 crisis to AI. There is only one response to these challenges, to fight for our values,

00:10:42.020 the values my parents saw in Britain, values which today are more important than ever.

00:10:49.280 fighting for those values of democracy, the rule of law, protection for rights and freedoms

00:10:55.360 is essential to tackle injustice and suffering.

00:11:02.960 He's smuggling in the green stuff. And I just remember the example of Germany that closed

00:11:10.320 down its nuclear reactors and tied itself from Merkel entirely to cheap Russian gas.

00:11:18.320 and perhaps i wonder whether this had anything to do with emboldening putin but no so he's

00:11:23.420 smuggling in loads there i mean like ed meliband is not of british ancestry right his his dad was

00:11:29.180 a jewish belgian-born marxist sociologist and his mom was a polish-born jewish woman who came over

00:11:36.680 like during the 20th century and so notice he's like we've got to fight for the values my parents

00:11:43.080 saw in britain well they're both immigrants that's why and so we have the son of an immigrant saying

00:11:47.880 well look your country is my resource to uphold a certain set of values it's like no who are you

00:11:54.160 why are you in bloody charge of something why are you the foreign secretary why were you the energy

00:11:58.980 secretary what are we doing here like this is just insane because it's again oh we who who is

00:12:06.240 prepared to go and be conscripted for ed miliband fighting for his values across europe and across

00:12:10.800 the world you signing up i don't think we care i don't think the large portion of britain actually

00:12:15.980 cares about this nonsense no one has to go and fight the war that we didn't sign up for vote for

00:12:19.700 it's insane um you know they talk about hope you know when i think about hope it's like all you

00:12:24.720 have left you have nothing left is but it's hope and faith so it sounds like they're really in the

00:12:29.160 gutters if you've just got nothing to kind of show show for themselves well i'm sure that plenty of

00:12:33.340 people within the country if they were polled and when they have been polled would express broad

00:12:37.760 support for ukraine how do you think that would actually translate into actual signups were it

00:12:43.720 come to it battalions yes well i i think back to when russia made it very clear that they don't

00:12:51.920 want nato's border to go further than it needs to yet nato's increasingly allowed other countries

00:12:56.720 to join so i kind of look at that and think well it's understandable why they're reacting the way

00:13:01.220 they did but i don't approve of it but we shouldn't be making ourselves a target by saying hey guys

00:13:06.180 we're going to send even more money to ukraine because russia really do not like us and they

00:13:10.060 make it very clear. They always encroach in our waters. But how many Brits want to go sign up for

00:13:14.340 Ukraine? I know there was a few guys that decided to just fly over there and thought, yeah, I'm

00:13:17.800 going to go on the front lines and fight. And, you know, how many people are doing that for

00:13:21.160 Palestine, I'd ask. But equally, no one's signed up for this. No one's happy with sending so much

00:13:25.400 money overseas. My position is we just don't care. We don't have enough money to support ourselves

00:13:29.760 in other countries. And that's, again, with all the will in the world, we don't have the armed

00:13:34.920 forces to go fight russia i don't see why we need to be involved in this but anyway coming back

00:13:40.600 closer to home this is where i think most people's real concerns actually are at the moment because i

00:13:47.000 don't know whether you've noticed but britain isn't exactly doing the best it can be doing

00:13:50.160 and so our pakistani muslim home secretary again a foreigner she name drops in this little speech

00:13:57.980 explains that what we're going to be doing is extending fairness to every street in this

00:14:03.140 country now this is a deeply ominous that's a threat yes it it is exactly a threat actually

00:14:10.520 it is exactly a threat control and fairness to our asylum system we must do the same for legal

00:14:17.680 migration too fair to those who seek a new and better life here like my parents did and fair

00:14:25.000 to those already here including british workers and especially the young that same principle

00:14:31.940 underpins my reforms to the right to live here indefinitely, ensuring settled status is earned

00:14:38.760 by those who have shown a consistent commitment to this country. I know that throughout our

00:14:45.500 consultation process, some have said that elements of these reforms are not fair. And to that,

00:14:52.040 let me say this. We will come to a position that balances fairness for those who came here legally

00:14:59.320 and fairness to british citizens across this country fairness cannot end at our borders

00:15:07.660 it must extend to every street in this country what does that mean fairness cannot end at our

00:15:15.720 borders it must extend to every street in the country it sounds like she's being fair to those

00:15:20.100 people outside of the country and then she's like oh no i want to be fair to them when they get here

00:15:25.120 as well and in every street we're gonna i mean we know they're putting refugees everywhere but this

00:15:30.760 is just incredible like why do we have to be fair to people in other countries why are they our

00:15:35.620 responsibility how's it got anything to do with us um so and i notice how she's you know again

00:15:41.360 name checked her own foreign parents because of course she's the child of immigrants she doesn't

00:15:45.520 have any children herself by the way so what's her investment in the future of the country but um

00:15:51.220 So fairness is actually funneling infinite numbers of foreigners

00:15:55.400 into the country, if you can imagine it.

00:15:57.320 Did you believe it?

00:15:58.220 Foreign women think fairness is bringing in loads of people's lives.

00:16:00.520 It's like with the concept of justice.

00:16:02.220 Whenever people talk about justice, the question is,

00:16:04.340 how do you understand justice?

00:16:05.900 And they're from unanimity where everyone says they're pro-justice,

00:16:10.320 you get everyone disagreeing with everyone else.

00:16:12.640 Yeah.

00:16:13.320 But this is actually wild, right?

00:16:15.260 Because everyone's aware of the sort of NGO industrial complex

00:16:18.780 that is helping funnel refugees into the country.

00:16:22.740 Well, Shabana Mahmood wants to make it essentially an arm of the government

00:16:26.600 by allowing these charities to petition the government on behalf of these immigrants.

00:16:31.860 Okay, well, let's see what we watch.

00:16:34.080 Fairness isn't only about control.

00:16:37.100 Fairness is also about offering sanctuary to those who are truly fleeing war and persecution.

00:16:43.560 So as we tackle the gangs and reduce the incentives that draw people here illegally, we are also opening new, capped, safe and legal routes.

00:16:56.180 So say there is war in some countries, say, let's say Africa or the Middle East, where both sides explicitly hate Britain for its past and also European civilization.

00:17:10.120 does this mean that automatically everyone from every side gets to come here it's only fair it's

00:17:17.660 only fair to them fairness is because they're fleeing war yes so but this isn't fair to the

00:17:23.040 to the this is supposed to be fair to the people already here yeah but when she says the people

00:17:28.320 that are already here i think she's thinking of the migrants they've already settled here

00:17:33.260 yeah i don't think she's thinking of the indigenous population there's a little bit more on this

00:17:37.520 I know that the British people have not given up on their belief that we should be compassionate,

00:17:48.280 live up to our international obligations and save the lives of those fleeing war and persecution.

00:17:54.940 But I also know this process must be capped and controlled with communities ready and able to welcome those who come here.

00:18:02.880 For that reason, I can announce today that from next month, we will begin accepting applications from charities and non-profits to sponsor refugees through our new safe and legal routes.

00:18:21.300 Thank you, people of Makerfield. Thank you. Thank you for making that happen.

00:18:30.040 but basically she says what she's going to do is bring in women from Afghanistan and men from

00:18:35.820 Palestine like what is this some sort of Muslim matchmaking service that she's conducting here

00:18:41.180 it's just like rolling the dice again like oh you know we've got 20 let's just hope it you know we

00:18:47.080 don't have Fairford 2.0 again is you know it's bonkers they think that the people of the country

00:18:51.920 want this I can't believe it it's it's kind of mad isn't it and and this is such a radical thing

00:18:56.160 I mean, like, it's not like the Palestinians don't have a history, right?

00:19:00.800 Now, you know, I don't care about Israel or Palestine,

00:19:02.940 but every country that has taken in Palestinian refugees

00:19:06.040 has suffered terrorist uprisings from Palestinians.

00:19:10.280 Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, they've all taken in significant numbers of Palestinians

00:19:14.360 and found, oh, wait, terrorist civil war.

00:19:17.640 Actually, that's not great.

00:19:18.800 And Shabal Amu is just like, oh, we're just going to bring them here.

00:19:21.100 It's only fair.

00:19:22.480 Well, they're going to need wives, aren't they?

00:19:23.560 So we're going to get the wives from Afghanistan,

00:19:24.820 we've got some men from palestine and this is what the british people want um also what will

00:19:31.560 that look like in practice if charities are able to sponsor these people coming over well who's

00:19:37.120 who's giving the money to the charities i mean the british government pays a huge amount to like

00:19:40.800 hope not hate or whatever care for calais and all these and they're then going to be petitioning the

00:19:45.160 british government hey we've got loads of people that we're going to bring across and the british

00:19:48.520 government like brilliant that's exactly how the system is designed to work so it's just going to

00:19:51.740 this rolling churn of new people being dragged into the country with your taxpayer money by the

00:19:57.120 way if you're foolish enough to pay taxes in this country which i'm sure we all are

00:20:00.640 um and so there's rumblings in the labour party of a bit of a worry about this because it's like

00:20:08.660 okay it's understandable that the labour party is like that we have to shore up our left right

00:20:13.560 we've got zach polanski and the greens being insane on the left so we need to drag those

00:20:17.180 people back in and shabana mahoud herself was criticized for being a right-wing home secretary

00:20:21.980 uh and so they're doing all these left-wing things but members of their own party are like

00:20:26.940 well hang on a second i mean this is going to be something that the right wing can take advantage of

00:20:33.260 if you are an excessively left-wing government now this is a labor minister called jenny riddle

00:20:37.980 carpenter who's the nature minister appointed in july and she told one of the meetings at the

00:20:43.200 party conference that she fears a far right will launch a battle at the next election using the

00:20:47.920 fantasy of a vision of britain based on warm ale pubs and black labradors that apparently never

00:20:55.380 really existed that's literally where i live yeah yeah that's anybody in the countryside in this

00:21:01.420 country will be able to tell you no that's where i live so again this is simply a threat to those

00:21:06.960 people yes they're going to try and destroy that wherever exists because they think i mean i went

00:21:11.960 to winchester this weekend and we were literally in a pub where there were three dogs just laying

00:21:17.640 in fires that's the majority of the country by the way it's normal it's completely normal but

00:21:23.780 of course well go to a pub quiz and there's the there's the family there with the dog that they

00:21:29.100 let have a few little slurps from the pint of ale that they've got there the dog can press the

00:21:34.240 button every so often give a little woof and they'll go ah five points you know that didn't

00:21:39.840 happened in the pubs i went to but the point is yours don't sound very fun no no but people people

00:21:44.860 bringing their dogs into the pubs and they're sitting around having a few beers in a nice warm

00:21:49.140 pub is a completely normal thing in england it's completely normal and so for this moment to be

00:21:54.880 like well this is a far right fancy yeah it is a bit of a far right fancy i'm not gonna lie

00:21:58.700 like that's the fancy country that i'd like to see exist right where we just sit around go to

00:22:02.840 the pub and just relax uh but the the point she carries on right she says this is one of the

00:22:08.060 things that keeps her awake at night um i think about it and fear it one of them is that if we

00:22:12.800 don't make the case for nature for rural communities and what we believe rural communities

00:22:17.140 will look like i do believe the next election is going to be fought on the battle line of nature

00:22:21.000 and rural affairs and there'll be the far right deciding and determining what that looks like

00:22:25.200 it'll be a vision a nostalgic vision of britain that never really existed uh it'll be warm ale

00:22:31.280 black labrador by your feet in a pub that doesn't exist and with symbolism of fox hunting around

00:22:35.660 them it'll be a very far-right nostalgic vision of britain that we don't want to have and never

00:22:41.080 really existed it's like sorry why don't we want to have that that sounds amazing also it's the

00:22:46.140 majority of the country i also love the idea that like you associate all of that obviously this

00:22:51.480 people these people must be like just obeying to torture foxes oh yeah yeah but that's irrelevant

00:22:57.640 you know but the point is why sorry can i speak to your manager carl uh you can't well hr has

00:23:04.240 some very bad news for you though it's good because we don't have a hr department

00:23:07.480 you see the point like she she understands that what they're doing is to destroy the country

00:23:14.940 itself like the these these sort of intrinsic um homely areas of the country i mean she literally

00:23:21.760 says we don't want to have it's like what and have never really existed it's like okay but this

00:23:27.380 is from your own twitter account where you were with a black labrador in a bloody pub in 2015

00:23:32.840 like how can you say it's never existed always a tweet there is always a tweet when was this from

00:23:39.680 oh yeah 11 years ago so it's like it existed in living memory and you tweeted about it

00:23:45.560 an actual picture of a black labrador in front of a fire in a pub in in england like yes this

00:23:51.940 why don't you want that to exist like why is this off the table for the labor party she's

00:23:56.800 basically saying people that live in a town like pittington don't exist yes that their views don't

00:24:02.020 matter that they can have 1200 asylum seekers placed there and it's their town now because

00:24:06.660 people pittington don't exist that's essentially what she's saying and if they wanted it to exist

00:24:10.840 if they wanted it to exist that's far right and that's against what the labor government wants

00:24:14.960 and it's like okay well that's good to know because isn't there a list of things that happen

00:24:19.940 when the big bad thing happens that suggests that erasing a people's identity is one of the steps

00:24:28.120 towards the big bad thing well i mean one of the things i complain about about

00:24:32.020 the Palestine-Israel conflict is the Israelis don't recognize

00:24:34.780 the Palestinian people as a people,

00:24:37.600 and they view that as the first step on the road to genocide.

00:24:40.740 So, yes.

00:24:42.100 But anyway, when you say, actually, I think the British do exist,

00:24:46.360 and I think it's okay for us to have pubs,

00:24:49.060 you're going to get called a racist.

00:24:50.920 As Andy Burnham said, well, Danny Tomo is someone with racist views.

00:24:56.680 Okay.

00:24:58.160 So, what's the argument you're making?

00:25:01.360 What are you actually saying about anything?

00:25:03.680 But I remember the headlines that they were saying

00:25:06.040 that the countryside is racist.

00:25:07.880 Yes, which is why they're specifically trying

00:25:10.200 to forcibly diversify the countryside.

00:25:11.620 Yeah, which is why the Peak District sucks now.

00:25:14.260 That's why they tried to put licenses on dogs

00:25:16.260 so that you can only get a dog if you're in the license.

00:25:18.580 They said that there was too many dogs in the countryside.

00:25:21.340 So this is Labour's plan for England.

00:25:24.000 It is to make everywhere in England look like London demographically.

00:25:28.040 it is to make sure that we don't have any nostalgic view of a far right pub with a black labrador

00:25:34.900 where you're drinking your warm ale in peace and quiet because this is something that's never

00:25:39.960 existed and this is actually what their plan is like they actually just come out and say all of

00:25:44.800 this in public at their conferences that makes national media i mean this is just these are

00:25:50.140 their opinions and you need to take them seriously i think they still want multiculturalism but

00:25:57.860 they're too afraid to say it. Because they know that we've pushed back. I remember seeing

00:26:01.900 on the news channels about 94% said, no, it's not working. About 6-7% said, yeah. They're

00:26:06.460 not going to say it, but this is what they want. They want multicultural Britain. They

00:26:09.420 don't just want it in certain towns. They want it everywhere.

00:26:11.420 Until it's too late. So they can say, well, now it's too late to do anything about

00:26:15.580 it.

00:26:16.580 They've put the boring bureaucratic Blairite style spin on it all, but they're nowhere

00:26:21.620 near as talented as somebody like Alistair Campbell was at the spin game, which is why

00:26:25.660 why it comes across as also bumbling and dull.

00:26:28.760 I'm surprised they haven't brought him back, to be honest.

00:26:31.080 I'm surprised that there are lots of them.

00:26:32.760 I'm surprised they haven't.

00:26:33.400 He would probably be an HR-style welfare concern

00:26:38.220 because he's so well known for shouting at people.

00:26:40.600 That's true.

00:26:41.180 He would probably get them to have trauma dumps

00:26:44.640 and break down crying, and they don't want that.

00:26:47.780 Chris says it's more like the politics of cope rather than hope.

00:26:51.380 That's true.

00:26:52.760 And the only fair thing is to deport the illegals.

00:26:55.660 and i can't wait to pay my pay my fairness says based ape income fairness corporate fairness

00:27:00.260 value-added fairness casual yeah it's gonna it's gonna mean taxes that's exactly what it's gonna

00:27:05.040 mean anyway let's uh it's always the way let's leave it there and move on all right then so uh

00:27:11.080 at the moment we are joined by special guest tyler johnson thank you very much for joining us

00:27:16.120 who is the candidate standing for restore britain and holborn and saint pancras so we're going to

00:27:21.900 get some insider info on what's going on uh with that because from everything that i've seen it's

00:27:27.340 turned a little bit more chaotic than i was expecting particularly with the presence of

00:27:32.480 restore britain being there let's take a look at some of the other candidates that we have uh the

00:27:37.500 front runner to um win the seat according to polling at the moment is the labor party

00:27:41.620 uh candidate who is basically just going to be taking the seat from uh i've forgotten how did

00:27:48.540 I forget his name already.

00:27:49.560 He's not a very memorable man.

00:27:50.720 Gone so quickly from all of our memories.

00:27:53.340 Keir Starmer, who was the MP for this seat,

00:27:56.800 who stepped away, which triggered this by-election in the first place.

00:28:00.760 I think Barmy Brunch, possible second runner, would you say?

00:28:05.500 Like, maybe he could maybe snatch it from them,

00:28:08.180 from the official monster-raving loony party.

00:28:10.520 Here's all of the candidates.

00:28:12.560 George Galloway decided to literally throw his hat into the ring

00:28:15.740 and has returned from exile in Russia.

00:28:18.360 Yeah, I was going to say, isn't Russia these days?

00:28:20.800 Yes.

00:28:21.560 Weird.

00:28:23.100 Zach Polanski decided to put himself in the crosshairs for this one

00:28:27.840 by standing with the Green Party.

00:28:30.040 And as mentioned, we have Tyler for Restore Britain.

00:28:33.160 Sorry, before we go on, isn't there someone who's conspicuously absent

00:28:36.340 from a high-profile by-election?

00:28:39.660 And who would that be?

00:28:40.980 Well, someone who likes his high-profile by-elections.

00:28:44.280 The guy that wears the bin.

00:28:45.400 That's right.

00:28:46.120 Oh, yes.

00:28:46.740 Where's Count Binface?

00:28:48.740 Well, clearly he's just been humiliated by a string of election losses.

00:28:54.740 Perhaps his planet needs him.

00:28:56.740 I think it might be more that, well, he wants Labour to win, doesn't he?

00:29:00.740 You scroll up, upwards.

00:29:03.740 Maybe Count Binface is this guy with a second one.

00:29:08.740 Yeah, this ridiculous face.

00:29:10.740 No, because we know who Count Binface is, and this isn't Count Binface.

00:29:14.740 bin face this is a man with a bean balclava over his face uh because they're just so crazy they're

00:29:23.020 just so random and funny i i think you know i can kind of understand not taking the electoral system

00:29:29.900 seriously at all but this kind of like an old-fashioned twee like oh aren't we so silly

00:29:35.800 aren't we barmy bronc bonkers britain is a little bit old and worn and tired that's like a gimp

00:29:41.320 yeah so here's the seat details it's been a pretty much a labor stronghold for a while

00:29:48.280 I took a look at it and if you god this is going to be difficult here with the angle that I have

00:29:54.420 if you zoom in around it's over here Camden this is this is the seat area you can see it's a very

00:30:05.880 diverse area in some places, mainly a lot of Bangladeshis living in the area. It is still

00:30:12.320 roughly, let me see, white English make up about a third of the population in most areas of the

00:30:19.320 seat going up to Camden Town as well. Or at least they did in 2020. They did in 2021, yes. This is

00:30:25.320 presumably massively changed because this is counting the census from prior to the Boris wave

00:30:30.420 uh hitting in full uh white other so other ethnic groups who class who are classified as white

00:30:36.040 make up another what quarter of the area but it is still very diverse um not too many pakistanis

00:30:43.380 but a lot of bangladeshis which is why you have videos like this from zach polanski speaking

00:30:48.400 bengali to all of his to all of his hopeful constituents let's hear him amy zach polanski

00:30:54.380 That's about enough of that.

00:31:05.080 Just part and parcel of living in multiracial, multicultural Britain,

00:31:08.640 wouldn't you say?

00:31:09.220 That within one of the...

00:31:11.420 Well, the seat that formerly held the Prime Minister of this country,

00:31:15.720 the boring and very English Keir Starmer,

00:31:18.420 you have this foreigner speaking a foreign language

00:31:23.080 to all of the foreign constituents that he's hoping to win over.

00:31:26.900 So, so far, what have been your experiences campaigning in Holborn and St Pancras?

00:31:32.120 It's been insane. We've had mobs and protest groups trying to stop us from delivering leaflets.

00:31:36.640 We've had around three or four arrests over the past two weekends.

00:31:39.860 My first day there, I was offered drugs just going down Camden Town High Street.

00:31:43.040 So that tells you enough about the drug use there.

00:31:44.760 Just the once?

00:31:45.700 Only just the once, yeah.

00:31:46.920 I'm surprised. That's quite moderate.

00:31:49.320 I know, I know. I mean, there's a good five of them just standing there.

00:31:51.560 But, you know, maybe if I went at the time at night, I might get offered different things.

00:31:55.780 But we found a guy that owns a shop there.

00:31:58.760 Clearly, we don't think he pays tax, but we get called a racist just by openly filming in the street on a rainbow flag.

00:32:04.160 It's been insane. I think we've been attacked so many times just by trying to deliver leaflets.

00:32:08.100 And it's interrupting the democratic right for people to vote.

00:32:10.840 We're allowed to deliver leaflets and literature through the door so many people can make an informed decision.

00:32:15.580 But we've got mobs and thugs of people that are trying to stop us.

00:32:19.000 yeah and we had Callum in last week discussing this as well and he was saying you know people

00:32:27.020 are asking why is it that we're standing here given that it seems to be such a Labour stronghold

00:32:31.460 and given that the Greens and Labour seem to be trying to use this as a battleground to see

00:32:36.500 where the next general election is going to go and whether the Greens can be a viable alternative

00:32:40.700 and look at this look at this this is the voter the constituents for the Green and the Labour

00:32:47.220 party you look at this and you think to yourself that she looks English uh he might be English

00:32:53.100 uh no that's no no I think he's probably Bangladeshi this doesn't look like um this

00:33:00.460 doesn't look like the warm ale black Labrador and the pub style constituency that Labour and Green

00:33:06.200 are so scared of it also doesn't look like what you would expect the English capital to look like

00:33:11.180 if you weren't from here I mean the candidate herself is a first generation Somali immigrant

00:33:15.620 isn't she so they're literally inspiring story yeah they're very inspiring story literally

00:33:21.600 labor have told me that it's very inspiring how is it inspiring in some ways and they go well

00:33:26.200 she's somali don't you get it yeah i go okay yeah you know what you're you're right actually

00:33:32.220 you're absolutely right why is she in this country why is she allowed to vote why is she

00:33:35.620 allowed to stand as a candidate it's just so inspiring it's so mad all of these all of these

00:33:41.200 hurdles that come with being a Somalian woman in England. It's just so inspiring. So Callum was

00:33:46.400 answering the question of, given it being a Labour stronghold, given the constituency,

00:33:52.880 why Restore is standing there in the first place. So what are you offering the constituents of

00:33:58.320 Holborn and St Pancras? And what do you hope to achieve through it?

00:34:03.240 Well, we're highlighting demographic change in the area. That's clear. We know that it's about

00:34:06.840 a third of people that are native white Britons and they don't have a voice. They don't have a

00:34:11.600 party that represents them. There are many people there that believe in what we're saying and we're

00:34:15.400 there to stand up for them. We're not going to just run away or recognize, okay, we can't win

00:34:19.080 this because there are people that do believe in what we are presenting. I knocked on the door of

00:34:24.180 a lovely young white couple that was just moving down the road in Camden town. And they said that

00:34:28.460 they believe in our party, but they're too afraid to say anything about it because they're scared of

00:34:33.020 getting cancelled, losing their job or anything. I imagine they're also surrounded by people who

00:34:37.220 would just be very, very hostile to this in general, given the reaction that you've been

00:34:40.620 getting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, she told me about how she was getting followed home every

00:34:44.580 other day from work because she had a studio in Camden. And so she had to call a partner to come

00:34:48.660 and help her bring her home. It's awful. So we've got a big issue in the area of women not feeling

00:34:54.320 safe. We have open drug use and we have social housing that is being given to foreign nationals

00:34:59.320 as a priority over white Britons on the streets. I met many homeless people that feel it's an

00:35:03.500 injustice. I totally agree. We should be putting our own people first because as much as people

00:35:08.220 don't like some of the homeless, they are our problem. It's our duty to care for them. If they

00:35:12.780 are white Britons, they're born and raised in this country. But if a foreign national comes over here

00:35:17.220 and claims off our system without offering anything, they're not our problem. So we would

00:35:21.340 have to deport them. So do you know anything about the rates of foreign occupied social

00:35:26.080 housing in the area in that case, if it's a concern that the party wants to highlight?

00:35:30.760 Yeah, I think over 50% of social housing is offered to foreign nationals. And a lot of them

00:35:35.560 will be asylum seekers, HMOs, and it's unacceptable. I met a big Romanian migrant

00:35:42.420 camp on the side of Warren Street. They all, well, I say they all, I can't generalise, but I know

00:35:47.200 that many of them came over on a boat. They managed to circumvent the system. So they're not

00:35:52.100 in an HMO. They're not in a hotel. They're just living there on the street. One woman said she's

00:35:56.060 been here for 14 months, but the council know about this because the council do attend every

00:36:00.440 week. It's hard to miss them. Yeah. We had a guy literally just pissing on the side of a migrant

00:36:05.020 camp as I was doing an interview there. Well, yeah, actually I, uh, I had that Rupert posted

00:36:10.220 it on his Twitter account. Well, it's such a privilege to hold on as you're, as you're talking

00:36:14.720 because, uh, you know, I watched this and I was like, okay, normal campaign video. He's speaking

00:36:19.500 to the camera. Here's a horrible, disgusting camp. And then, then you just managed to catch

00:36:23.760 on camera but sorry carry on while this plays and and most of these romanians would have come over

00:36:29.680 by a boat that's what the got one of the guys we were interviewing told us told us about and so

00:36:33.640 they've kind of managed to circumvent the system they're not in the nature but there he is they're

00:36:36.960 not in hotels they are there on the street a guy comes out behind one of my um colleagues in the

00:36:43.340 area with with a knife a seven inch blade he said no don't worry we're here doing the cut a sausage

00:36:47.440 for dinner on the street it's insane so we talk about knife crime but these guys can just hold

00:36:51.200 knives in their tents is bonkers and frankly they've got to go home actually is as well it's

00:36:55.880 just oh he's just he's just off to do some shopping now i suppose yeah or more likely

00:37:00.980 mill about some town square somewhere or hold a knife yeah carry one i don't know but they've

00:37:06.480 got to go home they don't belong here and they're not here to contribute socially economically

00:37:11.660 they're not here to assimilate they're here for a council house and and we can't afford it that's

00:37:17.740 as simple as that and again even if we could afford it why would we want to it's worth highlighting as

00:37:22.000 well it's worth highlighting as well that this was formally until he resigned and stepped down the

00:37:26.460 seat of the um of the prime minister of this country up until just a few months ago meaning

00:37:31.440 that you know as far as uh it goes officially the highest seat in this country outside of the crown

00:37:39.240 was giving two thumbs up on this yeah if this is what life is like under his own constituency you

00:37:45.220 can only assume that he was happy for it to remain so what's the um what's the tell me more

00:37:50.020 about the response from the white british people in the constituency like how do they feel like

00:37:54.980 the the things have changed over the past few years i mean finding the white british people

00:38:00.980 is difficult in itself and many of them are kind of the lefty uh how how can i kind of describe them

00:38:08.100 and give them justice but the lefty kind of lunatics that come out and they campaign and

00:38:12.460 that's, you know, stand up to racism crowd. They, they hate what we stand for. We stand

00:38:16.740 for common sense. We stand for the general British people. So we can play a bit of this

00:38:21.720 as well. Yeah. A lot of them have really enjoyed what we're saying. A lot of them have understood

00:38:33.640 where we're coming from. They understand that this is common sense and it does not mean

00:38:38.760 that you are racist or a Nazi or fascist, like this group claim. They do this to essentially

00:38:45.300 pour fire on you and hoping you burn away and fade away.

00:38:48.080 It's intimidation, isn't it?

00:38:50.080 It's intimidation.

00:38:51.080 Presumably, if an area is turning slowly and steadily into a ghetto, people have to

00:38:58.140 talk about it.

00:38:59.140 That's lovely. Sorry, I was going to say, there are lovely areas in this constituency.

00:39:04.300 down Kentish Town on Sunday. Beautiful houses, lovely parts of Hampstead and Primrose Hill.

00:39:12.780 Beautiful. But there's loads of social housing estates as well. So parts of those areas are

00:39:17.800 like ghettos as well. Also, some of those social houses, will they also occasionally be dotted

00:39:21.920 amongst the nicer areas as well? So it could be a situation like many of us have worried about,

00:39:26.800 where you'll be living down a nice road where all of a sudden a landlord or circo alongside

00:39:33.500 the council will buy up a place and then immediately convert it to hmo so you without

00:39:38.140 having any say in it in your own neighborhood have to put up with this arriving yeah and this

00:39:43.320 is entirely no-go zone in the making this is entirely ghetto behavior it's leave we we don't

00:39:50.800 care about the law here we don't care about your democratic rights that we will turn this into a

00:39:56.300 no-go zone i'm talking about the behavior of the stand up to racism like malmo in sweden yeah only

00:40:02.220 the worst elements of society can operate in such an area why why do yeah you can ask what if a fun

00:40:09.520 area is a no-go zone why does it vote so i'm curious as to what what inspired you to stand

00:40:19.780 on behalf of restore britain in this a very politically charged uh very difficult seat

00:40:26.320 that's got so much media attention on it it must have been clear from the outset this was not going

00:40:30.640 to be easy. No, I know. I've basically just kind of put myself up there as a sacrificial lamb.

00:40:35.760 I think we have an unlikely chance of winning, but I believe in what Restore is saying. I believe

00:40:40.320 in the mission. And I've been a member of the party since October last year, before it was an

00:40:44.280 actual party back then, it was a movement. And I've always followed Rupert, and I've believed

00:40:48.340 in what the party is doing. And I lived in Tuflal Park many years ago when I first moved to London,

00:40:53.920 so bordering the constituency. I know this area well. I live basically next to it in Notting Hill.

00:40:58.920 and I know that it's going to be a challenge. I know people are going to hate me standing for it

00:41:04.060 because I am white. People see me as middle class, British, and they think that I don't

00:41:09.880 kind of represent the area. And ultimately I'm here to stand up for people in that community

00:41:14.620 that not necessarily look like me. I'm not saying go down to the pub and there's going to be people

00:41:18.300 like me in that area, but I mean that I want to represent these people. I believe that we have

00:41:22.740 many Britons there and I'm standing up for them. And at the end of the day, I believe Restore are

00:41:27.600 going to be the party that changed this country for the better. We're going to give the hard

00:41:31.000 truths and do the necessary things. Great. And obviously with all of the

00:41:36.400 conflict that's been coming with it, you were sending me some of this stuff where young Bob,

00:41:44.560 who's not typically a person I pay much attention to, I've seen a number of the videos of him

00:41:50.040 getting beaten up in Manchester. And I've always been a bit skeptical of that kind of

00:41:55.200 stunt work if only because i mean at the end of the day you're getting yourself beaten up but he

00:42:00.080 has been there as well filming trying to draw some of the protesters away so far

00:42:05.480 look at that guy's face like he's he's genuinely possessed with fury yeah like you know where is he

00:42:20.080 almost there he is yeah yeah just look him he's so angry and he's he looks like a guy who's in

00:42:27.640 his 40s he's fuming at this like 18 year old kid reportedly a phd candidate of university

00:42:33.480 oh really so this chap apparently um i i haven't done enough digging but i think i've seen some

00:42:38.960 kind of photo circulating we know that universities are a place where you get indoctrinated by the

00:42:42.900 stuff and i think he's doing his phd but you know i just look at that and think well clearly this guy

00:42:47.820 is being indoctrinated by a system of woke universities.

00:42:51.220 Just an obvious lunatic.

00:42:52.720 Well, that's another question that I wanted to ask you.

00:42:55.620 How representative are these kinds of people

00:42:58.840 of sentiment of the white British in the area?

00:43:04.140 Or is this, as we've seen many times before,

00:43:07.360 a pop-up protest bust in by stand-up to racism?

00:43:11.180 The latter. These guys are lunatics.

00:43:12.820 They don't represent the area.

00:43:14.180 These don't represent the people I've spoken to.

00:43:15.720 They're also not from the area, aren't they?

00:43:17.820 they're likely paid they're likely paid by an NGO or charity to do this stuff because because we've

00:43:22.100 had that sort of thing before you had it at the opening of the restore branch in swindon where

00:43:26.900 a lot of people get bust in and then ironically enough it we didn't get much of it well the

00:43:33.500 organic protest that came up around our own live event just showed went went to show how pathetic

00:43:38.820 these organic protests are when they don't actually have much support or backing it was like

00:43:43.500 a handful of people so you typically find that whenever these things pop up in any great numbers

00:43:49.600 and they've all got the signs they have been bussed in they have been sent there to cause

00:43:55.080 disruption i mean this is interfering in a very real way with the actual democratic process that

00:44:00.740 should be engaged that should be engaged in in holborn but also stand up to racism is a front

00:44:05.360 for the socialist workers party so it's it's not even as if this was an independent ngo or something

00:44:11.000 no it's actually an arm of a political party in the country so this this should be considered

00:44:15.920 be totally unacceptable and really they should be prescribed but young bob's been involved in a lot

00:44:21.600 of um hubbub over there apparently this young woman threw some boiling hot drink at him

00:44:27.520 and that's her getting arrested uh young bob got spat in the face

00:44:32.900 anti-fascists

00:44:34.300 there you go

00:44:36.260 vile people

00:44:37.180 at which point he has been arrested

00:44:40.700 because supposedly he punched

00:44:42.580 three stand up to racism activists

00:44:44.460 the only footage that we have of him physically

00:44:46.620 confronting anybody that I've seen

00:44:48.160 was him

00:44:49.840 I think here he

00:44:52.600 pushes back at somebody when

00:44:54.460 they knock his phone out of his hand

00:44:57.020 at the moment he says if you don't touch my property

00:44:59.040 I won't touch yours

00:45:00.020 knocks his phone out of his hand

00:45:01.700 bob reacts in a self-defense preeminent manner i mean what are you supposed to do when you're

00:45:07.360 surrounded by a mob and someone who's going to attack you there you go repeatedly in the past

00:45:12.120 there you go but realistically the intention of these people is both to be disruptive to

00:45:16.740 you and your chaps going out and handing out flyers and trying to represent some of the

00:45:21.860 interests of the people there and also spread your own message but it is also to generate viral

00:45:26.680 clips they want to be disruptive in a way that means that people like young bob have to either

00:45:33.120 as he's done in manchester lay down and get beaten up or actually defend himself and then you can say

00:45:38.900 take out of context footage of him defending himself and say see these are far-right thugs

00:45:43.840 and activists who just want to go around beating up our peaceful anti-racist protest yeah weirdly

00:45:50.560 i don't think that narrative is landing at all i've been following your campaign i've been following

00:45:54.420 bob's commentaries on it and as far as i can tell it just looks like they are highly aggressive

00:45:59.780 and you guys have been holding yourselves very very in a very dignified manner about

00:46:04.360 ironically it's working in our favor we're just trying to do our job we just put a leaflet through

00:46:08.260 a letterbox and they're trying to assault and stop us from doing that and our campaign manager

00:46:13.600 lewis holmes had an amazing strategy this weekend he was able to essentially divert this mob away

00:46:19.000 from the main volunteers while they went out leafleting in the area he was able to take the

00:46:23.420 brunt of the attack he got assaulted numerous times by these guys on saturday that happened

00:46:28.020 we got all the leaflets distributed and on sunday they didn't even know where we are where we were

00:46:32.480 excellent yeah i have a question about the process have you campaigned both morning

00:46:39.900 early afternoon and late afternoon on the weekends yes i actually i have a job so that you know i

00:46:46.140 have to get paid somehow but like to stand up to raise exactly exactly well we always make a joke

00:46:51.720 that these guys don't like getting out of bed early,

00:46:53.600 so we're always quite fascinated

00:46:54.920 that they're there at 10 a.m. on the dot

00:46:56.420 ready to start kicking off.

00:46:58.040 But for me, I'm campaigning evenings and weekends.

00:47:01.600 In the day, I have a job,

00:47:03.280 but I'm there in the constituency doing the Lord's work.

00:47:06.680 Okay, so most of them are there in the morning, as you said.

00:47:10.300 Oh, yeah, when it's on the weekends,

00:47:12.020 they are there at 10 o'clock on the dot.

00:47:13.920 They know where they're going to be,

00:47:15.580 and we've been able to divert them.

00:47:18.840 We've been able to use an effective strategy

00:47:21.100 to go and leave and keep most of our volunteers safe.

00:47:23.700 It's insane.

00:47:24.540 On Sunday, we had over 50 people.

00:47:26.280 We had over 50 people turn up.

00:47:27.860 They will brag about having 40 people stop us.

00:47:30.840 We had way more than them.

00:47:32.660 That goes to prove the point, though.

00:47:34.120 These are not just jobless, unwashed.

00:47:37.520 They're people who are being paid.

00:47:38.640 That's why they're there, 10 o'clock on the dot.

00:47:40.420 This is their job.

00:47:41.280 This is their job, yeah.

00:47:42.180 This is what they're being paid for.

00:47:43.640 And we've seen it over and over, so it's not new.

00:47:46.480 It's really funny, because the first weekend I think this happened,

00:47:49.340 they were there for about two hours and then monty comes to the area like where are they let's get

00:47:54.600 some content let's go clip it and then they bugged off and then we literally just stood in camden

00:47:58.680 town high street i recorded my campaign video went to speak to shop owners and i didn't have

00:48:03.380 a peep from them since so i was there for another three hours in the afternoon they weren't even

00:48:06.540 seen i was in you know the lion's den of camden town where you think all of this kind of woke

00:48:10.760 nonsense goes on had no problems whatsoever so clearly they're just getting paid for two hours

00:48:14.960 and then they're off home back to bed that's very interesting yeah and um as you can see from as

00:48:20.740 carl was saying it's it's the narrative isn't working the charges have been dropped i have

00:48:25.800 seen uh confirmed for me if this is correct that some security has been hired just to protect the

00:48:31.740 your activists who are out on the ground just because whether or not these are people who are

00:48:35.340 hired for a couple of hours and then go home there is still the threat of physical violence

00:48:39.240 they are there to intimidate is that true that's true yeah we had to hire security we had to

00:48:43.600 give some of the people in the party protection because the Associates worker put up an article

00:48:48.840 saying how some of the people are fascist and Nazi and that's why they've got assaulted.

00:48:53.900 Lewis Holmes has been assaulted many times. So we've had to get private security to help with

00:48:58.140 this. And it's insane. You'd think this is another socialist state, the way that you have to walk

00:49:02.560 around with security, just go deliver leaflets. And that's the government taking no action against

00:49:06.560 any of this. Well, no word. I've heard nothing. Yeah, exactly. I mean, from the earlier video

00:49:11.560 that we looked at over, I think it was here, you can see the police officer seems to be more

00:49:16.480 grilling the activists than any of the people trying to disrupt them. This was outrage. There

00:49:21.720 was a police officer ushering Lewis away from leafleting. He was actively pushing him in the

00:49:27.500 back to say, you know, leave the area. But we've tried speaking with the Met Police. They need to

00:49:32.860 have a dispersal order, something I think is called a section 14 notice, so that they can be

00:49:37.160 dispersed, so we can go and do our job. But here he is getting ushered away by the police.

00:49:41.560 Again, we are victim-blaming.

00:49:43.380 We are treating the protest group

00:49:45.500 as the ones that should not be touched or feared,

00:49:48.960 and we are the ones that are then getting pushed along.

00:49:51.040 It's unacceptable.

00:49:51.520 They're treating the protest group

00:49:52.800 as if they're the ones with the democratic right

00:49:54.560 to intimidate and bully you,

00:49:56.440 as if you don't have the democratic right

00:49:58.220 to actually campaign for your own party.

00:49:59.820 It's not a protest.

00:50:00.900 That's the thing.

00:50:01.840 We're there to go deliver leaflets.

00:50:03.360 We're not protesting for anything.

00:50:05.260 This is a mob of thugs

00:50:07.060 coming to disrupt the democratic process.

00:50:10.020 Yes, and they're paid to do so

00:50:11.320 and supported by the establishment as they do. With that, is there anything else that you would

00:50:15.740 like to update us with and any words that you'd like to give to our audience? I think our support

00:50:21.480 is only growing. We've had over 600 members join since the weekend. People are waking up to it.

00:50:26.000 They understand our message. And for the people in the home of St. Pancras, there is an option

00:50:30.380 for you. And there's Tyler Johnson. I will represent you. I will do what's right for the

00:50:34.140 country. And I will always put British people first. Where can people go if they want to come

00:50:37.960 help support you if they join us as a member they will have details on where we have action days

00:50:42.920 follow the party join us be part of the fight and we want to cut the establishment cut the state

00:50:48.840 we want to deport millions and it will take time it's going to be difficult but we're going to do

00:50:53.320 the things necessary to fix the country great great thanks very much tyler thank you and now

00:50:58.060 go through a couple of the rumble rants and we can move on to stelios got my vote yeah uh buzz

00:51:04.360 all gin i assume a cousin of the famous astronaut the reason they hate pubs is that they allow free

00:51:09.580 speech and serve pork scratchings uh unironically uh the reason probably is that well there's two

00:51:15.100 there's two reasons uh one they are a holdover from um old england and they don't want there

00:51:20.840 to be any remnants of that to remind you what you've lost and two historically speaking pubs

00:51:26.260 have been when enemy where enemy factions are able to organize without being listened in on

00:51:31.240 it's where revolutions begin yes tom rat the only one with the bigger brass balls in holborn st

00:51:36.200 pancras and tyler is that young rob chap i love that he is young i suppose young rob also works

00:51:41.760 uh who drew the great unwashed away from canvases bravo sir robert hi all i've lived in kentish town

00:51:48.160 for 10 years specifically queen's crescent the shops on the crescent are almost uh all ethnically

00:51:53.480 replaced tyler i hope to meet you at the branch meeting excellent excellent and amandine um

00:52:00.180 how bad do things have to get before all british patriot men are marching in the streets every

00:52:05.080 single weekend serious question no answer i'm afraid let's move on great so we are going to

00:52:13.180 talk about the dark side of care homes and i want to start this segment by thanking luca for bringing

00:52:18.820 this to my attention it's a very horrific issue i was reading about it this and i was completely

00:52:25.840 horrified because it seems that there are several people talking about it. Andy Burnham said

00:52:32.100 that he wants to propose a national care service in England to tackle threat bear social care

00:52:38.800 system. And from the research I conducted, it seems to me that everyone is saying that the

00:52:45.680 social care system and the social care sector is deeply at fault. We imported so many people to

00:52:53.000 uphold it and that's very specific that's skilled visas no less yes and that should wake that should

00:53:01.780 wake some people up because there has been for years this narrative that well the evil native

00:53:08.820 youth won't take care of the elderly so we need uh foreigners and foreigners from wherever

00:53:17.120 indiscriminately. I think that this narrative is completely false, and I'll show you why I think

00:53:25.300 that. Now, one thing to say before I start, and this isn't going to be the folks of my conversation,

00:53:32.220 but I think that when Andy Burnham says that this is going to be a national care service,

00:53:38.280 I don't think that hiring for it is going to be done on meritocratic criteria.

00:53:44.240 Oh, really?

00:53:45.400 Yeah.

00:53:45.820 Something tells me that it isn't going to be meritocratic.

00:53:48.780 It's not being done in any other way, meritocratic in any other circumstance.

00:53:53.700 Honestly, I find that hard to believe.

00:53:55.900 You're going to have to do some pretty big convincing.

00:53:58.640 Because, you know, there's the incentive of voting.

00:54:01.820 There's going to be voting in exchange for positions.

00:54:05.700 There is always going to be the push for representation in order to show that the UK is a truly diverse society, an inclusive society also that promotes equity.

00:54:18.780 And I think that this is going to be atrocious, especially done by Andy Burnham and a government that is constantly virtue signaling about fairness, DEI, all the stuff.

00:54:34.240 and constantly promotes diversity right i want to show you the two sides of the rhetoric

00:54:40.260 because the first thing i came across asking several ai programs to give me a picture

00:54:48.380 gives the impression that boomers have gone completely feral

00:54:53.860 it's i'm willing to hear it essentially paints a picture cruises are erupting yeah incredibly

00:55:02.160 violent elderly people i did see the reform conference yeah sorry right so here we have this

00:55:10.020 gmb union so i'm just imagining suffers facebook boomers are rising up yeah this is like battle

00:55:17.240 royale thing let's it's just it's about to go deadly right carers suffer 6 500 violent attacks

00:55:25.020 in five years according to gmb union how can you be the victim of the invalids you're caring for

00:55:33.240 well here's here's i've known a lot of um girls when they were younger who worked social care

00:55:39.460 social care is not only about um looking after the elderly it's also about looking after people with

00:55:45.740 non-social autism and lots of lots of violent disorders as well and so I've known girls who

00:55:55.700 have been scared because they are working under well they're working on behalf of old people with

00:56:00.920 dementia who are liable to pick things up and throw them at them like lamps and such and they

00:56:05.620 one person that I know used to get threatened constantly by a man with severe autism who she

00:56:11.700 had to stay overnight in his house because he was under home care and he would like bang at her door

00:56:16.620 at night when she was trying to sleep and threatened to do things to her so i'm not surprised

00:56:20.980 that this is something that happens my solution to such a thing would simply be if you've got a

00:56:26.760 high risk client you could say do not staff them with young vulnerable women there are plenty of

00:56:35.480 men who work in social care as well you have to just accept that girls shouldn't be working under

00:56:40.680 these people.

00:56:41.680 But also there's the extra bit is that when you go there and in such an environment,

00:56:46.580 you need someone who's properly trained also psychologically to handle this.

00:56:50.560 Yes, it was very psychologically difficult.

00:56:52.560 You can't have someone who takes it personally.

00:56:56.140 That's great.

00:56:57.140 I used to work at a care agency.

00:56:58.920 So I used to be one of the guys on the phone to the carers and I would have to speak to

00:57:02.860 them when they're literally being assaulted, speak to the police, what's going on.

00:57:06.740 And a lot of them, they just accepted it.

00:57:08.620 They dealt with it.

00:57:09.620 part and parcel of the job that they know that this person has dementia, schizophrenia, whatever

00:57:14.660 it may be. And many of them were kind of older women that just knew how to deal with it. So maybe,

00:57:20.620 I don't know who kind of answered that survey to say, you know, or gave these quotes, but I agree

00:57:25.220 if it's younger people, inexperienced people, they're probably not the right ones to be doing

00:57:29.360 that job. It doesn't mean that kind of any violence is good, but it's kind of part and parcel of the

00:57:34.060 job. Unfortunately, there are other people that they can be caring for, but if you've got someone

00:57:37.740 who's going to be high risk for the carer just allocate your resources appropriately yeah but

00:57:43.240 also there's the other bit is that when you see surveys and articles and entries from the labor

00:57:49.140 unions they have vested interests in presenting a picture of what is going on that will be more

00:57:57.220 more likely to convince the government to say hey we need more money we need more care so if

00:58:03.540 If you check, there are several people trying to say essentially that violence, aggression, and burnout in the care industry is part of the job.

00:58:12.580 I do believe it, to be honest.

00:58:14.900 Yeah, I don't know why else you can do it.

00:58:16.140 Yes.

00:58:17.040 But they're saying essentially that it's an incredibly prevalent phenomenon.

00:58:22.760 Right.

00:58:23.080 On the other hand, there is also the other side of it that talks about elder abuse.

00:58:28.460 and stats and data we have in several surveys also paint the same picture.

00:58:36.120 I'll just read from here from Criminal Injuries Helpline.

00:58:39.260 They're saying essentially that in the UK in 2020,

00:58:45.240 around 180,000 women and 98,000 men aged 60 to 74

00:58:50.420 suffered domestic abuse in England and Wales in 2018-2019.

00:58:55.680 Arglas estimated that nearly 2.7 million older people across the country may have experienced

00:59:01.860 domestic abuse in 2020.

00:59:04.200 And the list goes on.

00:59:06.240 This says here, especially about the carer industry.

00:59:09.920 A 2018 survey found very high rates of abuse in care homes.

00:59:14.700 Investigators identified abuse in 91 out of 92 care homes, most commonly in the form of

00:59:20.420 neglect.

00:59:20.920 essentially it says that everyone is abusing everyone else okay right well i would imagine

00:59:28.620 something seems to be completely wrong going on really wrong here i would imagine that the elders

00:59:33.480 being abused um it's not quite the same as the the the people who have dementia or something

00:59:39.200 yeah lashing out yes carer you know the carer is a much higher duty of care one of one of the

00:59:44.920 horrible things about care homes is that often you do have people who are yeah old and infirm

00:59:49.720 but otherwise still mentally sound in these care homes alongside people with severe dementia who

00:59:56.660 literally can't go to the toilet by themselves and will constantly have messy accidents all over

01:00:01.960 the place which must just be a horrible position to be in and I would imagine that sadly both of

01:00:07.520 those are going to be equally liable to abuse from neglectful care workers or even just like

01:00:12.280 outright violent care workers there's been a number of videos that got leaked from some of

01:00:16.440 places where, yeah, some of the foreign staff in particular will just assault them.

01:00:21.800 There's also another question that I want to ask you, Tyler, especially since you said that you

01:00:27.400 worked in a care agency, is that there's a significant worry about under-reporting on

01:00:32.680 both sides. Do you think that this is accurate or not? Was there an issue of people not reporting

01:00:40.040 cases of abuse on both sides? It's dependent on the support from either

01:00:45.000 side so has the carer got the support of the agency or the home and does the the recipient

01:00:51.040 of care have the support of family because if they're on their own they're unlikely to report

01:00:56.100 this stuff so there's safeguarding concerns for the recipient of the care that means that their

01:01:01.640 kind of abuse if they suffer that from a carer is probably underreported and the carer is if they

01:01:07.920 do have support of an agency or home they're you know more likely to report it so that's why we're

01:01:11.560 It seems such a high statistic.

01:01:12.540 So question here, because this is what I really want to get at here, because my intention,

01:01:17.920 and I hope I haven't given a wrong impression, is not to take one side or the other.

01:01:24.040 It's to highlight the dark aspect of what is going on.

01:01:30.060 You described something that seems to me to be aptly described as demoralization.

01:01:35.940 So wouldn't a national care service structured on DEI principles, like the one that Andy Burnham is proposing, and let's not kid ourselves, these are the criteria that he's going to use.

01:01:51.740 Wouldn't that demoralise several people and saying, well, if care workers are from particular backgrounds, they aren't going to be, they are going to be treated preferentially.

01:02:04.540 So there's no reason for me to report cases of abuse because they are going to have the systems help.

01:02:11.940 I don't see how DEI is going to benefit this whatsoever.

01:02:14.520 I think we should scrap those programs because we should be all one nation and one culture.

01:02:18.480 we should have whatever race or ethnicity you are you should be able to support someone else

01:02:23.400 of of a different race ethnicity but if you're saying that okay we're having more caribbean

01:02:28.340 elderly people we need some more caribbean carers i don't see how that's going to help it and people

01:02:32.760 will say well no i want someone that reflects me and who i am and now we've got to try and fill

01:02:37.160 those roles and find people that fit that criteria i don't think that's the kind of britain i want i

01:02:42.320 want us to be one nation and to be a part of the same culture no matter what you look like or where

01:02:46.240 from here i'm gonna just uh share with you some statistics really quickly and move on to discuss

01:02:52.540 some of the cases that are going to be incredibly horrifying right oh cheers so it says here around

01:02:58.440 344 000 people uh in the uk comprise the care home population and there are there seems to be

01:03:09.520 incredible abuse and most of it is underreported there are estimates that it's far higher than the

01:03:16.220 data we have. And they're saying that essentially that they're frequently left alone. They have

01:03:21.340 insufficient time. They're given insufficient time to eat. And when they have special needs

01:03:28.960 of frequently, they're just left out. You would expect that a agency that functions properly

01:03:36.880 would say, well, if we have to deal with people with difficult issues, we need properly trained

01:03:44.040 people not just say we have labor shortages we want 10 people just bring 10 random people from

01:03:51.220 around remember a few years ago when there was that situation where somebody died in a care home

01:03:55.760 because um i think there was a stair lift accident and one of the staff members who called the

01:04:00.520 ambulance either the staff member who called the ambulance or the woman responding on the other

01:04:05.880 side of the phone couldn't speak english properly yeah yes i think it was i think it was the care

01:04:11.520 worker, how much of the neglect that they're experiencing might be simply that some of these

01:04:16.920 care homes hire people who can't speak English and therefore don't know what other people are

01:04:21.060 telling them to do? And what you describe is also mentioned here. They're saying that one of the

01:04:26.420 major problems is insufficient care when moving residents. And I do have some of the stories

01:04:33.620 that I'm going to share with you. So here we have, many of them are really recent,

01:04:39.540 which raises the question of what's going on several of these stories have been published

01:04:44.860 recently is there something going on here right a carer who was secretly filmed mocking and

01:04:51.360 threatening an elderly bed-bound man with dementia has been struck off and they're saying that he

01:04:57.000 the old man suffered years of cruelty and neglect and his daughter installed a camera there

01:05:05.520 and she caught

01:05:07.560 the Nigerian woman

01:05:08.900 and another man

01:05:09.780 who was helping her

01:05:11.560 threatening the man.

01:05:14.640 Right here it says

01:05:15.440 Nigerian carer robbed

01:05:17.000 elderly and disabled clients

01:05:19.120 after losing job

01:05:20.580 in a shameful raid.

01:05:23.080 Ed de Jong say

01:05:24.080 in a SCN

01:05:25.000 smashed down the back door

01:05:26.500 of a terrified couple

01:05:27.640 and helped himself

01:05:28.860 to their money.

01:05:29.660 Right.

01:05:29.860 So I'm going to share

01:05:30.920 with you this story

01:05:31.940 and I want you to ask yourself

01:05:34.400 which agency thought this guy was qualified to care for people.

01:05:41.340 Apparently, and that's a good thing because let's be honest,

01:05:48.460 the agency he was working for did fire him over serious fraud and theft allegations.

01:05:58.000 And that's the least thing you could hope for being fired.

01:06:00.100 Exactly. So they're saying that he's going to be deported after saving, after spending 30% of his eight month, eight year sentence in jail.

01:06:09.720 We'll see if this happens or if suddenly some ECHR excuse is going to be given.

01:06:17.780 But he said that he is 32 years old. He was working for comfort care until March 9th of 2026.

01:06:24.720 and they fired him over credible theft allegations.

01:06:30.120 Next day, he went and he robbed four houses

01:06:34.180 of people he knew they were disabled.

01:06:40.820 Normal people would have just started applying for other jobs.

01:06:43.920 Yeah.

01:06:44.900 So let me just tell you here.

01:06:47.260 Liverpool Crown Court heard that the very next day

01:06:50.560 he carried out four burglaries against elderly and vulnerable people that he had previously cared

01:06:56.580 for. In one shameful raid, he smashed down the back door of a terrified couple in their 80s and

01:07:03.420 helped himself to their money. In another, he targeted a blind, wheelchair-bound cerebral

01:07:09.100 palsy sufferer, viciously kicking him out as he forced entry. His appalling crime spree only ended

01:07:16.980 when snatching a woman's handbag as she returned home from a shopping trip, leaving her attempting

01:07:22.580 in vain to fight off with her walking stick.

01:07:25.940 So this guy would have been imported specifically to be a carer.

01:07:30.140 Yes.

01:07:31.140 Right.

01:07:32.140 So what is interesting here is that they are saying that they are going to deport him.

01:07:38.820 The question here is, why are they saying now that they are going to deport him and

01:07:44.880 And they aren't appealing to ECHR Article 8, which, by the way, allows for deportations.

01:07:51.560 I mean, I assume it's because he's not claiming to be a refugee, right?

01:07:54.220 Yeah, I'm happy that they say they're going to deport him.

01:07:58.480 But it shows also another precedent for the states that, yeah, they can deport people.

01:08:03.800 It's just no one's going to talk about him being deported as a violation of his human right to stay in the country, robbing everyone.

01:08:14.880 That's perhaps just a good idea for future cases.

01:08:18.480 It's a choice. They can deport whoever they like. And it's very easy with this guy. He's

01:08:25.040 probably on a skilled worker visa from, I think, Nigeria or Ghana, and we can get rid of him very

01:08:31.120 easily. But if you're granting asylum applications to almost everyone that enters illegally,

01:08:35.840 or they overstay a skilled worker visa and then they apply for asylum, it's almost like a safe

01:08:40.000 haven because we now have this precedent on the ECHR and the United Nations Convention.

01:08:44.080 it's a political choice they're just very too weak to do anything about it i have a small question

01:08:48.720 for you tyler about this since you're representing also restore britain is that from my understanding

01:08:54.320 when it comes to the issue of deportations many many criminals avoid deportation because judges

01:09:01.920 for instance claim that them being deported would in some way violate their human rights

01:09:08.320 And they frequently mention Article 8 of the ECHR

01:09:12.320 that talks about the right to a family life.

01:09:15.340 Now, the second clause of this article

01:09:17.960 specifically says that all this is conditional.

01:09:22.640 It's not unconditional.

01:09:24.080 It's conditional upon things like national security,

01:09:27.580 the economic well-being of the country.

01:09:29.180 So my question to you is,

01:09:30.840 who is ultimately responsible for this?

01:09:32.820 Because we hear about the ECHR.

01:09:34.940 I'm sympathetic to the criticism.

01:09:36.700 Personally, I don't think that's the major issue. Who is responsible for these decisions?

01:09:44.980 Who are these judges?

01:09:45.980 It's a mix of the Home Office with the judiciary, and we have foreign law, where

01:09:53.380 that is the ECHR, United Nations Convention on Refugees. So there's so much precedent

01:09:58.260 and so many of these absurd cases going through the courts that they now have precedent for

01:10:02.860 allowing people with similar circumstances to stay. So it is the judiciary that are

01:10:07.340 complicit, but they're maybe hands are tied because there's precedent, the lawyers presenting

01:10:11.020 it and they kind of have to accept it. But I also believe we've got many immigration

01:10:15.760 lawyers that are kind of working together to get state money because it's in their interest.

01:10:20.480 They get paid no matter what. They're going to help these guys with asylum claims. So

01:10:24.220 it's in the interest of these immigration lawyers to get them through the system as

01:10:27.160 well. And I think that there's many immigration lawyers that are of a Muslim background that

01:10:31.900 will help these migrants coming across the channel, many of which we know coming from

01:10:36.040 places like Sudan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh. So there may be kind of a cultural

01:10:40.960 relationship between the lawyers that are representing them, as well as the people

01:10:46.340 claiming asylum. So I think that it rests on the judiciary, but to an extent their hands are tied

01:10:51.700 because we'd have two pieces of law that are going to stop them being deported. But with all that

01:10:57.340 precedent being built from all of all cases that are able to succeed on the basis of a right to

01:11:01.880 family life they're able to stay and have their assignments applications granted here we have

01:11:07.260 another uh infuriating case highline care workers struck off over sexual assaults i'm not going to

01:11:14.520 read because it's incredibly graphic and i don't want to there has been a weird spate of um

01:11:21.180 african men raping pensioners not just in britain either this happens a lot in scandinavia as well

01:11:28.840 for some reason uh i can only imagine well i don't even know i don't even know what the bloody

01:11:35.120 reason for it is i know this is not the world i want to be living in no but it's something has

01:11:40.500 to be done well this isn't something that most like as i find care homes to be a cold and

01:11:49.100 impersonal environment to be sticking your family members in in the first place uh if it ever came

01:11:54.120 to uh the point where my family members my parents are unable to take care of themselves if they had

01:11:58.800 to have any form of care i would prefer some form of home care um but i've seen other people

01:12:04.160 have to put their own family members in this sort of situation it's horrible you it's impersonal

01:12:10.660 and inhumane enough without the worry that the state is going to draft in some african who could

01:12:18.420 then assault your elderly mother like old people who've lived lives they've been members of society

01:12:24.760 they're part of they're part of us don't deserve to spend the last few years of their lives

01:12:32.280 in fear it's a horrifying thought and that's that's the difficult thing that is it's it's

01:12:38.280 difficult to try and raise and express this point but there is a natural sympathy for someone who

01:12:44.460 is like you and so if you are hiring say english care workers to look after english people

01:12:48.960 you can expect a greater degree of sympathy than when you're hiring someone who is completely

01:12:54.520 foreign doesn't really care about british people but is here essentially as a mercenary for the

01:13:00.400 state i mean look at this nigerian that we highlighted a few minutes ago clearly when he

01:13:04.180 was looking after these people what was he actually doing he was scouting marks oh yeah absolutely he

01:13:09.880 was scouting victims the moment that he that his job was taken away he decided that these people

01:13:15.620 were his victims now but the the the problem with the kind of mercenary care worker is the same that

01:13:23.700 every mercenary has. Any amount of having to do the actual job is an inconvenience. Whereas normally

01:13:29.900 when people go into care work, they're like, oh, I'd like to help people. I do this for genuine

01:13:33.840 altruistic reasons. And being able to actually do it and be able to live a life that is of service

01:13:39.920 is something that comes from a position of care. Well, I can't help but feel that a lot of these

01:13:44.320 examples of people are like, well, I come from a village in Nigeria. We don't ever see this amount

01:13:49.420 of money the 30 or 40 grand or whatever it is so for me this is just a means to financial success

01:13:55.380 rather than actually doing something for other people because why wouldn't they be a care worker

01:13:59.680 in nigeria if they were because the the care working position is isn't the you know you would

01:14:06.720 expect more altruistic uh sentiment from the people there and we have this appalling story

01:14:13.040 A UK-based Nigerian caregiver, jailed for manhandling 88-year-old men.

01:14:19.120 And I'm not going to show the video.

01:14:20.680 It's incredibly violent.

01:14:22.300 But she is dragging him across the floor, and he died the next day.

01:14:26.380 Total lack of sympathy for the person that she's supposed to be caring for.

01:14:30.140 Yes.

01:14:30.400 So, basically, I want to say that it's important.

01:14:34.680 It's an issue that we need to highlight, I think.

01:14:37.580 And I want to thank again, Luca, for pointing this to my attention.

01:14:40.860 and i think that reform needs to happen on this yes restore restore restore you know go back

01:14:52.300 restore the care system previous care systems or something yes but uh you know i'm reading this

01:14:59.440 and i'm i'm worried you know what i'm gonna do with my parents for instance what are my children

01:15:05.080 going to do with me well this is all all downstream of the erosion of natural of of

01:15:10.940 proper communities and mutual aid in the first place that we were talking that we've been talking

01:15:14.780 about um recently where you know people may have previously been in a position where the community

01:15:22.700 were better able to take care of their elderly without having to consign them into care homes

01:15:26.880 perhaps you as a family were better able to take care of your elderly maybe you may have some money

01:15:33.520 to be able to provide them with home care rather than putting them into a home but the economic

01:15:37.720 conditions that we live under where the state is siphoning away as much of your money as possible

01:15:42.120 and the breakdown of more traditional communities means that some people are forced into a situation

01:15:47.560 where it's like my mother's developing dementia it's getting more and more difficult i'm going to

01:15:53.020 have to put her somewhere yes and i'll end the segment by revisiting the beginning i think that

01:16:00.400 from what I've seen the last 10 years

01:16:03.120 and the kind of DEI focus and DEI rhetoric.

01:16:07.600 And when I compare it with these stories,

01:16:11.480 I'm worried when I hear people like Andy Burnham

01:16:13.920 saying that they want to make a national care service

01:16:17.100 because I think that they are going to make DEI

01:16:20.700 an essential part of it.

01:16:21.960 I'm sure it'd be brilliant.

01:16:22.800 And I'm sure that it won't become

01:16:24.560 yet another overburdened national service

01:16:26.740 that is given open to the entire world.

01:16:29.040 and uh there are talks of him raising taxes which contradict what uh you said he said in

01:16:36.900 the first segment sure but i mean like of course yeah anyway um do we have video comments today

01:16:43.260 samson um return says my political teacher used to my politics teacher used to take me in the

01:16:49.300 rest of my class to the labor party conference seeing the insanity of it is why i'm right wing

01:16:54.660 my god

01:16:55.160 I had to see these people in person

01:16:58.280 imagine the smell

01:16:59.540 just insufferable

01:17:02.820 right let's play that one please

01:17:05.300 Samson

01:17:06.040 have we got it up on the screen

01:17:07.700 nope

01:17:08.660 Samson

01:17:10.460 oh dear

01:17:16.020 I decided to ignore your advice Harry

01:17:20.140 and I went to

01:17:21.100 this is an actual wasteland

01:17:23.960 This is your town centre, is it?

01:17:26.080 Yeah, that's Crewe.

01:17:26.820 What the hell?

01:17:27.480 That's where I'm from.

01:17:28.200 Jesus Christ, man.

01:17:30.380 That used to be an alright little square.

01:17:31.940 There used to be the weird stuff there.

01:17:32.900 There's a homeless camp opposite the bus station.

01:17:35.700 Yeah.

01:17:36.900 You just can't get away from this kind of stuff, can you?

01:17:39.640 The local Labour MP's office next to the foreign supermarket.

01:17:45.580 Well, it got the windows bricked in a bunch of times.

01:17:49.800 Shouldn't laugh about that, but okay, there we go.

01:17:52.660 yeah that that little town square uh with the big fence the big fence is now taken down

01:17:58.980 that was supposed to be an enormous modern shopping center where they initially knocked

01:18:04.900 down the old bus station and shopping arcade that was there that was of course

01:18:08.580 filled with local independent businesses yeah this looks quite nice this looks yeah it's just

01:18:13.400 not very well maintained there uh the bit before with the fences uh guess what they didn't put up

01:18:19.320 shopping center uh that car park behind it is a new addition that isn't open on sundays because

01:18:24.840 there's simply no demand for it it was a multi-million pound project that i think brings

01:18:29.680 in like a couple hundred quid a week great job council uh that is now the world's worst park

01:18:37.300 it's it's really really rubbish and they destroyed uh old historic monuments and other such things

01:18:44.600 in the town centre to make way for it.

01:18:46.960 There's no reason

01:18:48.460 that it has to be this way.

01:18:50.420 It's a series of bad choices.

01:18:52.700 Yeah, thanks for

01:18:53.900 visiting my hometown, I suppose.

01:18:58.500 Alex says, Stelios, changing the

01:19:00.340 Department of Education to the Department of Hope

01:19:02.060 serves a very real purpose. They're signalling

01:19:04.500 that education has run its course.

01:19:06.740 That's a great point.

01:19:08.000 That's a good point. We're not here to provide you with education.

01:19:10.220 The education standards have been collapsing.

01:19:12.440 So I guess we're now

01:19:14.120 reduced to only hoping for good things uh he says david stark what i'm sorry you go you go into

01:19:20.040 you go into school and what you you hope i just go into school to hope i hope i learned to read

01:19:25.460 today yeah me too like david starkey has a fascinating interview about the corruption

01:19:30.960 of higher education that has been pushed right the way down so the children are indoctrinated

01:19:34.700 with hope not hate from the youngest age message the party was hope and the members have shoehorned

01:19:40.940 it in in the least imaginative of ways.

01:19:44.520 Yeah, I mean, it really

01:19:45.240 does seem to be just

01:19:46.860 it's kind of, someone

01:19:49.360 pointed out it's pathetic, and it's

01:19:50.900 you, the Labour Party in its last gasp,

01:19:53.860 as in, if all you can

01:19:55.360 say, oh, we've got hope now, say, okay, well,

01:19:57.200 what's the plan? What's the plan?

01:19:59.200 You've got nothing else. Yeah, where are you trying to get to?

01:20:01.480 And it really is a paradigm

01:20:03.300 that has breathed its last at this point.

01:20:05.840 If the worst, if the best they can do

01:20:07.400 is just, oh, yeah, we hope for something good.

01:20:09.080 so i hope the power doesn't go out today where's streeting hmm don't know about that sorry about

01:20:14.760 that one buddy yeah no no we didn't plan for that one at the end of the day says star must fiery but

01:20:20.860 mostly peaceful back door so we're all on the same page we'll not be silent about our values of

01:20:25.140 fairness today is the day that we look forward standing together united to hope for a better

01:20:29.200 future for everyone i should be a labor speech writer and it's like i don't know that wasn't

01:20:33.980 part of the labor speech that is exactly as vapid as devoid of content as any of the other

01:20:39.680 labor speeches labor party just ai generated at this point no because it would sound more

01:20:44.120 interesting they probably sound a bit slicker you it would at least have something substantive

01:20:48.900 but that distinction matters bring back starmer and his gaffes whatever happened to those sausages

01:20:54.300 you know start starmer again for all of his faults at least genuinely believed in

01:21:00.540 globalism

01:21:01.780 and human rights

01:21:02.560 Starmer was a contradiction

01:21:03.960 in that he was so boring

01:21:05.440 he wrapped back around

01:21:06.360 to being fascinating

01:21:07.380 yeah but he

01:21:08.060 but when he was giving a speech

01:21:09.340 he at least genuinely

01:21:10.120 believed in the thing

01:21:11.060 that he was saying

01:21:11.640 whereas I don't really

01:21:12.760 believe that any of these people

01:21:13.940 believe in anything

01:21:14.680 but Burnham just has a bit

01:21:15.860 of a deer in headlights look

01:21:17.240 and he

01:21:18.040 and he did that thing

01:21:19.500 where he was like

01:21:20.040 what sat with the Ukrainians

01:21:21.220 with his guitar

01:21:21.880 playing

01:21:22.740 and it was a little bit like

01:21:24.020 oh I'm

01:21:24.920 I'm foxy

01:21:25.400 and down to earth

01:21:26.280 I am

01:21:26.780 and uh

01:21:28.060 and apparently it was like

01:21:29.260 oh it's the smiths

01:21:30.140 Can't you tell? Like I've listened to a lot of Smiths over the years.

01:21:32.640 I couldn't, no, I don't recognize that one.

01:21:35.220 I think one of the worst things about Starmer was the video of him punching a boxing bag.

01:21:41.760 Didn't it strike, did it strike fear into you?

01:21:44.900 Yeah, you know, it, it had, you know, where it goes from zero to nine, nine, nine, right?

01:21:48.780 That must have like given you some flashbacks.

01:21:51.760 You know, when you punch it and it goes from zero to nine, nine, nine, you know, Starmer punches it.

01:21:56.800 One.

01:21:57.580 Yeah, that's good.

01:21:58.720 it pushed it so hard

01:22:00.240 it broke the system

01:22:01.820 you're right

01:22:02.500 Mermodon says

01:22:06.160 Andy Burnham still seems to be acting

01:22:07.800 as if he's the mayor of Manchester

01:22:09.260 the position of Prime Minister

01:22:10.520 must be seen as steadfast

01:22:12.380 and carry more gravitas

01:22:13.820 they give speeches

01:22:14.860 as if they are profound thinkers

01:22:16.700 and narrators

01:22:17.280 and not fools drunk on power

01:22:18.860 that is slipping from their grasp

01:22:20.040 well yeah

01:22:20.980 I mean this

01:22:21.540 this is the point

01:22:22.460 everyone in the Labour Party

01:22:24.440 seems to be completely ill prepared

01:22:26.420 for the position

01:22:27.100 they've accidentally found themselves in and so what what do they do well they make a series of

01:22:32.380 bungling mistakes until eventually the denial of reality catch up catches up with them and

01:22:37.960 whatever they have promised collapses can i confirm something that i'm not going crazy right

01:22:43.500 and i'm not the only one who keeps forgetting he's not still just the mayor of greater manchester

01:22:48.500 right i'm not from the north because because yesterday he his name was brought up on the

01:22:53.540 podcast i think firas mentioned oh andy burnham had this to say on the matter regarding the

01:22:59.060 bring him up yeah and my immediate thought my immediate thought was i didn't say it was oh

01:23:03.980 what's he got to say anything about it he's only up in manchester oh god i forgot he kind of has

01:23:08.740 like right nerdy reference time in doctor who there's a monster where if you're not looking

01:23:14.240 about them they erase that they erase your memory of them for your mind burnham occupies a similar

01:23:19.520 place with me i keep forgetting he exists unless he's right there in front of me a moment on says

01:23:24.740 these activists in holborn and st pancras uh are desperately trying to be at the center of the next

01:23:29.240 big social media event to prove their virtue but they also tear each other down to be the most

01:23:33.680 virtuous um good point very good point yeah um that's a random name says watching all these

01:23:40.080 candidates the physiognomy check places tyler at number one yeah everyone else fight for last

01:23:45.340 place yeah well yeah nothing screams defending our free and fair democracy like ngos paying

01:23:52.080 thugs to intimidate your political opponents yeah and this this is why it's it really is like it's

01:23:56.600 people are like well yeah that's just what the left are like it's like okay but then make them

01:24:01.580 answer for it you know the labor government are the ones currently in power and probably the ones

01:24:05.540 funding hope not hate and stand up to racism and whatnot so make them answer for it you know if

01:24:10.700 you're gonna if you're gonna allow this don't give me free and fair democracy with this kind

01:24:14.880 nonsense uh i worked in a care home a couple of years back as a handyman the corruption was

01:24:22.280 astounding we had two nurses selling and taking codeine a manager who enabled it and a massive

01:24:27.020 flux of nigerians and filipinas started flood the workplace who would get an get to an empty area

01:24:32.360 and take their family and talk to their family back home uh out loud on facetime it was an

01:24:37.460 absolute travesty yeah i've heard um there were you know drug smuggling operations in care homes

01:24:43.120 as well as where they're stealing the drugs and sending them back to wherever it's a pretty common

01:24:46.680 feature of a lot of like care and charity work I know somebody who used to do you know when people

01:24:52.280 go out on the streets and they try and flag you down if they're charity workers I was told by this

01:24:58.040 person that because of the stress of just moving town to town every day and having to try and like

01:25:03.360 flag people down in the street and how many people tell you to just go away most of the people she

01:25:08.640 was working with were either drunk

01:25:10.700 while they were on the street or on drugs

01:25:12.560 just to get through their day.

01:25:15.380 Wow. Yeah.

01:25:17.340 Ednaud Logan says, I guess the key

01:25:18.640 difference between the American and the UK system.

01:25:20.620 That sounds like a great term.

01:25:23.480 In the American system, you can

01:25:24.560 sue the clinic if they do something wrong against you.

01:25:27.040 I mean, theoretically, in the British system, you can

01:25:28.700 sue the clinic as well. You can, but you won't make any money

01:25:30.700 from it. I don't know what

01:25:32.660 everyone thinks about COVID jabs, but I know

01:25:34.620 someone who had a very bad

01:25:36.420 effect from the COVID jab. Basically,

01:25:38.640 kind of not paralyzed but needs to have daily medication and go to hospital witness all the

01:25:43.120 time they were able to sue the trust they were offered about 120 000 pounds it's nothing you

01:25:49.000 know this person is 20 20 something years old can't work because they need a pacemaker and

01:25:54.580 some drugs every day to keep them going 130 grand for the rest of their life you know there's no

01:25:59.080 point in suing these organizations there's there's just no need because you're not going to get

01:26:02.520 enough money from it yeah yeah that's awful um henry says severely non-verbal autistic people

01:26:07.740 can be insanely dangerous one patient my mum had to deal with was essentially feral and would try

01:26:12.240 to bite anyone he came into contact with you're like trying to care for a leopard blimey a huge

01:26:17.840 part of social care and why it's a mess isn't the care homes it's the plan around care in the

01:26:21.400 community where both the elderly and disabled are placed in accommodation in normal residential

01:26:25.300 areas and build new and new build housing the costs associated with this including the time

01:26:29.940 wasted traveling around um and maria says the care industry is full of bemalians who can barely

01:26:35.440 string two words together and don't have any empathy both in care homes and across home care

01:26:39.520 yeah and this honestly i really think this is like what's being highlighted with the

01:26:44.180 assaults it's just well why would you think these people who are being paid as mercenaries from

01:26:51.180 africa or wherever would give a damn like what what was the incentive for them to give it and

01:26:55.960 also if there are several psychological conditions it's it's not easy to know who you're dealing with

01:27:03.220 and what kind of condition they have.

01:27:05.820 You need very qualified people.

01:27:08.000 You don't need unqualified people.

01:27:10.260 We need people with empathy and want to make this a career,

01:27:13.240 but it doesn't pay anything.

01:27:15.040 That's why we're importing so many people to do it.

01:27:16.940 You need consistency.

01:27:18.400 You can't have a revolving door of people coming in

01:27:22.000 to look after somebody with very, very specific needs.

01:27:27.060 And finally, Hector asks,

01:27:29.380 does Tyler have a favorite dinosaur?

01:27:31.280 That's a bit of a shift.

01:27:32.240 important question and his vote hangs on this tyler t-rex because it's the only one i know

01:27:38.180 yeah and it's the only one i could properly pronounce on the podcast it's also mythical

01:27:42.620 cryptid this is a this is a question purely for carl you're big bigfoot man no no i don't know

01:27:48.080 what that is oh footman bigfoot bigfoot man um no you believe bigfoot exists i i i've heard of

01:27:54.780 i'm not asking if you're a fan of like some mythical superhero called bigfoot man i'm asking

01:28:00.040 if you are a bigfoot fan anyway tyler thank you for coming on where can people find more from you

01:28:05.940 so i'm on socials at the moment showing the campaign tyler for restore you can also follow

01:28:10.780 the rupert lowe page you can also see us on the restore britain hoven st pancras page

01:28:15.540 there i'll be showing more information about the campaign and hopefully we won't have too

01:28:19.660 many more interruptions this weekend great thanks for coming on and thanks for joining us folks

01:28:23.740 we'll see you tomorrow

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - September 29, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1516

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