00:09:19.920and said, yes, I'm eating breakfast with it.
00:09:24.560So let's sort of start there before we start with the compassion that is unduly given to this woman.0.66
00:09:32.180She then told another friend that she had done this and that she had the victim's blood and brains pouring out with the horror that she has inflicted.
00:09:47.360The police interview is considerably more harrowing because she goes into detail about how the victim was begging that they would leave her alone, how she was trying to bargain for her life, how she tried to get up and run away a few times and then they caught her and dragged her back and kept on killing her.
00:10:05.040And the crime scene ended up being an area of 100 feet by 60 feet.
00:10:11.300So the poor victim was dragged around a pretty large area as she was trying to escape.
00:10:18.640And her blood and brains were pretty much scattered everywhere.
00:10:26.060But we are seeing yet again women intervening and saying that actually because the murderer had had a difficult life, she should be pardoned and really she shouldn't be executed and really she's in fact the victim of her circumstances, which is what led her to being killed.
00:10:49.440You know, there are many, many people out there in the world who have really traumatic and quite difficult upbringings who actually don't go on to become torturous, sadistic maniacs who take people's schools as trophies.
00:11:05.260You kind of preempted one of my points because the murderer has a half-sister and her half-sister went on to start a family, become a good mother, live a good life and be at peace with herself.
00:11:21.420And she says in her testimony in court, look, I've managed to find peace and I've managed to basically set up a decent family and do what I'm required to do.
00:11:31.720um the policeman on the scene first thought that the corpse of the victim was in fact an animal
00:11:39.800because it had been so badly mutilated it was only when he uh noticed the victim's uh
00:11:49.040upper body that he realized that this was actually a human being that's like jack the ripper yeah
00:11:55.160territory this is how brutal it was and she'd committed this crime with two accomplices one
00:12:00.500of them who helped her with the beating and with the killing, and the other who stood as a lookout.
00:12:06.180One of them was her boyfriend at the time, who we can see here, I think.
00:12:13.300Not too worried then about losing him to another woman, if your boyfriend's going to be complicit
00:12:19.980in this barbarity. Yeah, his name is Tadaril Ship, and the other one, the friend, is called
00:12:27.220Shadola Peterson. And Ship was 17 at the time of the murder. And so the death penalty could not be
00:12:37.800considered an option for his trial. But by all accounts, from the confession that she made to
00:12:43.740the police, she did the bulk of the work. He participated, and he certainly hit the victim
00:13:51.020But what is being presented here is a particular type of morality, which is that if you are suffering, it is only logical that you go ahead and inflict as much suffering as possible on random innocent people around you.
00:14:08.960And it comes with a purely mechanical understanding
00:14:11.620of human beings that robs them of any kind of agency.
00:14:16.160The claim underlying the sympathy posts that we see here0.89
00:14:22.080about what kind of rough life that she had.
00:14:24.900This post seems to exaggerate some of the things
00:14:27.520that have happened to her, but what is not in dispute
00:14:37.200she's had a rough childhood. She's had a rough life. Horrible. There is no denying that. But0.99
00:14:43.580what's claimed by her supporters is that that, therefore, naturally leads to these outcomes,
00:14:52.600to a sadistic session of torture and murder that was premeditated and that should go essentially
00:15:00.000unpunished. And also, as well, you're basically just enabling it for anyone else who might have
00:15:04.920these unfortunate conditions that actually, if you are diagnosed with bipolar disorder or any
00:15:10.200other case, you know, they might give excuse for, you have an extra layer of defence in the law
00:15:16.400if you ever wished, for whatever reason, to do something particularly terrible.
00:15:21.160And you could go from that to argue that anybody with a mental illness is excused,0.91
00:15:26.480And that also all sadistic murderers or all murderers or all criminals are inherently mentally ill, either because they're low IQ and therefore they're borderline retarded or because they've had a rough upbringing and so on.0.94
00:15:45.240This denies human beings any kind of moral agency.0.90
00:15:48.580And even though this doctor explains a long litany of issues with her upbringing, the defense's own psychiatrist who examined her after the murder in 1995 said that, yes, she was bipolar, but there is no brain damage there.
00:16:09.660she knows right from wrong, she is cogent, she is intelligent, she is a fully formed moral agent
00:16:19.720and therefore she doesn't have any kind of insanity plea. The defense never once went for
00:16:28.020any kind of insanity plea or any kind of claim that she didn't know what she was doing and she
00:16:35.060didn't know right from wrong. Now, some of her defenders are saying, well, she was in a manic
00:16:40.940episode, and that's why she tortured and murdered someone. But that leaves the question, well,
00:16:48.000if you're too unwell to know that you can't murder people, what society should do with you
00:16:57.180for purely consequentialist reasons is take you out of society permanently.
00:17:01.640yeah this is what they're missing this is what this whole thing is is uh this is what's wrong
00:17:08.140with this argument you can't deny the victim's justice out of compassion with the criminal
00:17:14.600this is inherently an unhinged moral system and it doesn't get you anywhere
00:17:21.220i don't really care what her what her upbringing was i don't care if she can't be trusted it's not
00:18:41.540...a few days, but it's also important to report about her victim, Colleen Slemmer.
00:18:46.420She was born on September 20th of 1975 in Orange Park, Florida.
00:18:50.260According to Dateline's true crime podcast called True Crime Weekly, she grew up with her mother, Mae Martinez, her stepfather, and her younger sister.
00:18:59.740Her teachers described her as really sweet, quiet, and mild-mannered.
00:19:04.140Others described her as kind, with a genuine instinct for helping people.
00:19:09.120Colleen didn't like doing things. She babysat. She loved anything to do with kids, you know.
00:19:16.040And I think it was part of me because I had daycare for 40 years.
00:19:19.000One of Colleen's biggest passions was computers. It's why she enrolled in Job Corps at 19 years old, to take a federal training program for computing. Her mother says she didn't want to go, but Colleen was independent and had made her decision. She left her hometown on Halloween of 1994, and that was the last time her family came to school.
00:19:40.000so basically this by all accounts perfectly nice very sweet girl with dreams and ambitions
00:19:47.660gets brutally murdered because no clear reasons i mean it seems that she didn't get on well
00:19:56.460with the murderer uh okay that's how is that a defense how is that a defense for murder i don't
00:20:05.200understand. Her mother still insists that the only right thing to do is to execute Krista Pike0.99
00:20:17.220because she's a murderer, because this is the only way to bring about justice. Every time I think
00:20:23.740about it, I think about what her mother says. I think about Colleen feeling that pain and trying
00:20:29.260to get up and run, Martinez told the Associated Press. She traveled to NSE, maybe now finally we
00:20:36.420have justice. It may not bring my daughter back, but it might save another person from getting
00:20:42.220killed because she will do it again. Now, in case you doubt that, what's her name, Krista Pike is
00:20:51.800genuinely evil she says that she feels a kinship with lindsey clancy the woman who murdered three
00:21:00.680of her children it's a slam dunk right there isn't it i mean back there you go uh she says that uh
00:21:10.360she blames her mentor mental health even though her defense didn't go for a mental health defense
00:21:18.040at all as well as racism oh yeah because her boyfriend at the time was black her accomplice0.77
00:21:25.420in the murder was black that is why she is being put to death i feel a kinship with lindsey pike
00:21:33.400told the times of london um sorry when you go to the the allegation of racism because the boyfriend0.92
00:21:41.100and an assisting murderer was black.0.71
00:35:42.300And so, for example, to second your point as well, Bo, when they talk about the fact it's like, well, you know, there's 39 students per class.
00:35:49.540How can we possibly maintain any sort of order?
00:35:52.560It's like, well, I'm sure they could double that in China.
00:35:55.640And yet the students wouldn't all of a sudden just kick up a massive fuss in the middle of the class and start burning Shanghai.
00:45:36.480But also as well, it's like the Pope comes to France and again, I don't see the youth of France really holding to France's Catholic heritage in many degrees.1.00
00:45:53.060Perhaps because they don't come from, sorry, Gombo.1.00
00:53:35.400You have to give us infinite money and protect our classrooms because we are literally the future doctors and engineers.
00:53:44.120The line that she did the meme, as all of this is going on, it's like, I don't think anyone involved in this are the future doctors and engineers, actually.
00:53:55.260You don't seem to have much care for, certainly not for architecture or engineering or stability of Paris's buildings.
00:54:03.640And very little by way of caring for human life as well, as far as I've seen with teachers being kicked and harassed and chased away.
00:54:14.660And as I say, people set on fire as well.
00:54:17.480So I'm not really willing to indulge this.
00:54:20.700Now, she individually might have aspirations towards one of these things, maybe, but I'm not willing to extend that to everyone out there on the streets.
00:54:31.860um yeah what's macron said yeah well now we have macron um who says no to violence of any kind
00:54:39.960and nothing legitimizes it i hear and understand the anxieties sometimes the anger that our young
00:54:46.540our young people may have whether it be about climate technological developments and geopolitical
00:54:54.780situations so not about funding of secondary schools and just other stuff which tribe is
00:55:03.460tribal sectarianism because nothing to do with the the climate what they're complaining about
00:55:09.780at the heart of it is you are trying to make us french it doesn't work we won't but but within0.65
00:55:19.160this as well that's we will burn the place down before we accept anything along those lines0.94
00:55:23.620But this is within, you can tell, the second and third generations who have come here.
00:55:31.260Because obviously one time a day, I'm not saying in many cases, but in some, it would have been the case that you as a foreigner, purposely choosing to move to France or Britain or Germany, wherever it might be, you may well have moved there because you do actually believe in the stability, prosperity and high culture that those countries produce.
00:55:53.620But once you start just having your own ghettos and just living within your own particular sectarian culture and you're bringing up new kids as well who have not been brought into it, they are just feeling the resentment of, well, hang on, I'm not like the host population and I've been born here against my will and I feel far more loyalty to wherever my parents left.
00:56:20.160And so they've got this huge chip of resentment on their shoulders.0.63
00:56:23.620Especially when they've been steeped in the narrative, marinated in the narrative that they're a bit of leftism and globalism, that they're the victims.
00:56:31.800France and native French are the evildoers, colonialists, etc, etc, etc.0.89
00:56:37.480And they're within their right, like punch a Nazi, you're morally allowed to punch a Nazi.0.99
00:56:41.140You're morally allowed to just beat up someone who says the N-word.0.97
00:56:44.720It's okay to burn down your school because it's French, because it's a French school.1.00
00:56:50.640Remember what happens at every World Cup.
00:56:53.620Yeah. Remember who they saw. I mean, the cricket test. What was that? The cricket test or whatever it was. Right. Well, yeah. Where did who do they side with?
00:57:30.740Like, well, all remigration. The state will have imposing remigration requires a good 10 years of authoritarianism. That has to be admitted. It requires a good 10 years of very robust authoritarianism.
00:57:47.480And so, you know, they are willing into being their own nightmares by pursuing these policies, by saying we want open door immigration, we want multiculturalism, we want this, we want that.
00:58:02.100Like the end result of what they've pushed is going to have to be authoritarian or collapse.
00:58:08.360And they are so evil that they would prefer to have civilizational collapse rather than a remedy.
00:58:15.500But the thing is as well, they already advocate for authoritarian themselves. They just do it against a host population. It becomes we continue to live in a more authoritarian version of our countries. And yet the foreigners who came in because of the two-tier societies that are being created by this sick multicultural experiment are continually allowed to express themselves in a far more anarchistic sort of way.
00:58:41.880And so it's not that we're not already on the path to authoritarianism.1.00
00:58:46.840It's just that it's an authoritarianism that is designed to enable their worst behavior.
00:58:53.380And exactly as you were saying in your segment as well, Firas, about these people just coming in to defend the indefensible as well, it just continues to go on as things get worse.
00:59:06.440So you have Le Pen here saying we've always denounced it.
00:59:09.600The France of the forgotten is the cruis, the cantile and the ad,
00:59:13.420not the suburbs where billions from the urban policy have been poured,
01:00:17.920This morning, we were once again witnessing fires in educational institutions across France, along with violence against educational staff and law enforcement.
01:00:40.600Yes. This seditious party, which leads certain young people down the terrible dead end, must be called to account for its responsibilities. It won't be, of course, because of the repressive tolerance that the French state lives under. But like I say, I don't know when this is going to peter out. This might go on for weeks, for all we know.0.92
01:01:03.440Think about it this way. If they burn down enough schools, there won't be anywhere for the students to go. If there is nowhere for the students to go, this will be a self-perpetuating fire. As they burn more schools, they basically can't be corralled into what is essentially daycare. And if they can't be in daycare, they will be rioting everywhere.
01:01:26.440So this is the actual danger here, that this can spread in a way that nobody has accounted for, which sort of puts the idiocy of war with Russia aside, which puts the idiocy of open door migration aside.0.98
01:01:39.880Like, you've been invaded, and the invaders' youths are now taking over huge swathes of territory.0.97
01:01:47.960They will start by burning down the schools, but if in a district, like we saw, I think, from Bordeaux, you have 15, 20, 30 schools burnt,
01:01:57.420well, that's several thousand students who have nowhere to go, who have no jobs, who will be subsiding on looting.
01:02:06.560And therefore, the fire becomes self-perpetuating.
01:02:09.300Yes. This is the beginning of something genuinely dangerous and genuinely atrocious.
01:02:14.620And when you hear Macron saying, oh, nothing justifies violence, even geopolitics,
01:02:19.720go die in a ditch quietly and let someone who can rule actually rule.0.71
01:02:24.340They don't care. Yeah. I don't think after all of this, some people who were considering1.00
01:02:30.280possibly, you know, dipping their toe in the ring of teaching are going to be doing it when they
01:02:35.680see that the classrooms are going to be, um, you know, attended by these fine youths.
01:02:40.900Yeah. So there we are. Um, all right. I'll just go through, uh, rumble ramps quickly.
01:02:49.480Um, uh, we've got, um, uh, Peluso of Malice says, um, when I look at what the French do,0.88
01:02:56.700when, um, they have self-determination, the only conclusion I can come to is a division0.62
01:03:01.780that I don't know if I can read, but funny.
01:04:29.620Okay, it really does seem to be the case that the Chinese government, the Chinese Communist Party, the authoritarian one-party communists have got a real bee in their bonnet against not just Britain, the Five Ayers, right?0.56
01:04:45.420There's sort of one big intelligence service in a way, the United States, Canada, Great Britain, Australia and New Zealand.0.80
01:04:54.940For years and years, decades, they've been the Five Ayers.0.95
01:04:57.900They exchange, well, to what extent exactly they give each other0.99
01:05:02.020all the different information and the chatter
01:05:03.840and the intelligence sharing things, but nonetheless.
01:05:22.460No, and it is the fault of Western governments0.95
01:05:25.460that the Chinese have been that successful.
01:05:26.960and that's a different conversation yes okay but so i mean well so before i get into the details i
01:05:33.020mean just there's one headline here this is just one really this is just one more data point to
01:05:37.000throw on top of a much bigger story but it's in the new cycle yesterday and today china funding
01:05:42.820uk research and sending it to beijing spies mi5 warns just a quick overview is that there's all
01:05:49.240sorts of universities in britain that are working for chinese front companies that are really it's
01:05:54.600really the Chinese intelligence services. So they're getting our universities to work on things
01:05:59.320like AI and stenography and all sorts of things that they then use against us. The cheek of that.
01:06:05.920Okay, anyway, carry on. Sorry, that's a natural consequence of two things.
01:06:09.780Free movement of people and free movement of capital. If Chinese capital can set itself up0.94
01:06:14.980in Britain and say, well, actually, I'm a British company now, when the owners are Chinese and the
01:06:20.600financing is Chinese. Well, there's nothing legally stopping a British company from sponsoring
01:06:25.780research in a British university. It goes back to that company. Of course, that company, because
01:06:30.940it's mandated by law to cooperate with Chinese intelligence services, it will naturally send
01:06:36.580the research on to China. When's the last time we ever heard about a British university
01:06:42.360rejecting money from foreigners, whether it be students or Chinese, whatever it may be?
01:06:49.780In this instance, it's an organisation called the China General Technology Research Institute, which just gives funding to all different universities, including Cambridge, for their researchers to do things into espionage and intelligence services type things like AI and cyber warfare and all sorts of stuff.0.66
01:07:10.300It's cutting edge research, the best research will come out of places like Britain, Canada, the United States and Australia for China to then use against us.
01:07:18.660Iranian drones are developed with technology that was researched by Iranians in British
01:07:26.740universities. And I just wanted to correct something you said. The Chinese Communist
01:07:31.740Party is not communist. It's nationalist. This is the bit that people keep on ignoring.
01:07:37.240Everybody is a nationalist. Everybody deep down is a nationalist. This is the most important thing.
01:07:45.340they're acting not out of global communism they're acting out of national self-interest
01:07:50.300okay okay fair enough i mean it is more complicated than that though isn't it because
01:07:55.680the economic models are well are what serves the chinese nation well yeah not really
01:08:01.800they're not maoist anymore are they they're not marxist leninist really anymore are they
01:08:07.480much much as xi jinping insists still anyways one party system based loosely around a maoist
01:08:14.340version that's based loosely around marxist leninism all right anyway they're one party
01:08:19.480autocracy say that can't we with winning the poos sitting at the top pretending he's a benevolent
01:08:24.600sort of yes good man we can all work together can't we your prosperity is our prosperity isn't
01:08:29.440it wars and cold wars are bad for business aren't they well stop doing endless amounts of espionage0.98
01:08:35.160against us then you cheeky bastard all right so this is just one one more example and this is0.93
01:08:41.640coming from mi5 this is not just the bbc making up or me making up this is coming from mi5 mi50.97
01:08:46.780is saying that um if the universities don't stop doing it they'll be liable for prosecution
01:08:52.340particularly particularly cambridge and not just there's a hundred of them but i support that i
01:08:57.900mean has has cambridge got any sort of history or previous with being sympathetic towards leftism0.92
01:09:05.580communism or our enemies in any way is there any to be is there any fair the chinese won't be
01:09:11.840sending a jason arday like the chinese professors that will be sent to do research in cambridge
01:09:17.560won't be people like jason arday or rather they get the chinese are just like how we're supposed
01:09:24.960to learn anything from this exactly or rather like the cambridge five in the soviet era for
01:09:31.580the Soviets they get people that are genuinely British well-educated well-educated British
01:09:38.680public school boys that have gone to Cambridge and then that have got leftist sympathies and0.83
01:09:45.020then they subvert them it's not that you send a Chinese person to Cambridge you can do that as
01:09:48.660well no you get one of us one of our traitors to work for you that's it's more that really
01:09:54.900yep and MI5 saying stop it look we see what you're doing stop it though because you're
01:10:00.960actually undermining our national security now at this point.
01:15:32.880the Indians will act in their interest, et cetera, et cetera.0.99
01:15:35.960The longer you have this retarded liberalism,0.99
01:15:39.320the more you cripple yourselves for the future struggle.0.98
01:15:43.500And also, as well, this is obviously not merely a matter of every nation within its means, like, you know, if it has the potential to.
01:15:51.600Like, no one thinks that Panama is aspiring to be a world power because it would just never happen.
01:15:56.020But if a nation has that potential within its size, within its population, its infrastructure, it is always obviously going to aspire to ascendancy.
01:17:06.660And so when Labour says, oh, we want a green grid and we want to go with green energy and all of that, they are directly putting British money in Chinese pockets.
01:17:17.380When they talk about the Chagos deal and handing over the Chagos Islands to whatever it is, Mauritius, they are basically handing over a key strategic military base to the Chinese.
01:17:31.820So Labour in all of this are acting essentially as agents of China.
01:17:35.960The Democrats in the United States, same thing.
01:19:22.360And so if China can undermine or ruin us, they will.0.97
01:19:25.660And also as well, if I may just say, because we have spent decades gutting out our own identity and our own sense of self as well, this means that when things such as global pandemics come along, we immediately adopt Chinese solutions to them.0.95
01:19:43.460And all of a sudden, the entire world finds itself in lockdown.0.62
01:19:52.140And, of course, as well, all of the people, whether it be like, who was it at the time, Jeremy Hunt, who was just like, oh, I admire the Chinese social credit system or I admire the way that the Chinese do this.
01:20:03.400George Osborne with all of his links to Chinese business.