The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1536

00:00:00.200 Welcome to, um, what was it? No, hang on.

00:00:02.960 No, it's not Lab's Hour.

00:00:04.420 Podcast of the Lotus Eaters, episode 1536.

00:00:08.000 I thought I was going to do it right.

00:00:09.040 How's the last time you did this?

00:00:10.260 Like last week or something.

00:00:12.240 You know, that's a long time at my age.

00:00:14.880 I'm joined by Harry, you know, because he's already criticised me before I could introduce him, and Carl.

00:00:19.900 Hello.

00:00:20.920 And it is Tuesday, 27th of October, Year of Our Lord, 2026.

00:00:26.180 I got that right.

00:00:27.220 Yes, you got that one right.

00:00:28.180 i think i think it's all in good fun it's all in good fun yeah there's no it's all right um i

00:00:33.060 don't mind it doesn't crush me inside every time you do it um we're gonna be talking if i'd known

00:00:37.620 that i'd have gone even harder that has an ethan klein moment live on camera um what are we gonna

00:00:44.100 be talking um i think we're gonna be talking about soldiery moments yes yeah because they're quite

00:00:54.740 keen that at a moment where we all hate the government to give us all guns i mean what could

00:00:59.960 go wrong um lucky lula he's a very lucky fellow indeed not very tall but he is lucky um and a

00:01:07.000 comedy skit or something talking about satire being dead the return of ali g right ali g came

00:01:13.480 out on friday thing to come out it came out it came out on friday and you can watch it on streaming

00:01:18.680 tomorrow god i look forward to that why would i want to uh which is what the cinemas must have

00:01:24.480 told him well yeah yeah well and and with that let's hear a bit of bit of soldiering so you'll

00:01:29.800 notice that um in the past week or so non-stop across the radio from the government and whoever

00:01:36.780 all the talking heads have been like by the way i think we're gonna have war and catastrophe

00:01:40.940 i had very soon so okay where's streeting britain must be ready for war in 1000 days

00:01:47.900 our war master our leader our horus is west streeting

00:01:53.040 just to be clear right if you were in a bar and some guy bumped into you you turn to look and it

00:02:04.060 was west streeting you'd be like what are you doing you wouldn't oh god just sorry bro you

00:02:09.240 know you you you would know that you were perfectly safe uh confronting this man if i was in the same

00:02:13.940 bars were streeting i would be very concerned that i've walked into the wrong bar you have

00:02:17.960 but just make sure you know where your drink is at all times yeah yeah he's he's likely to slip

00:02:23.000 or hypnol in it i suppose um but anyway the point being is that the british governor is just coming

00:02:28.060 out saying by the way we're going to go to war in like three years so just get ready it's like

00:02:31.420 what are we who are you going to war with and best of luck what's this we business yes like sorry

00:02:36.860 you are going to war are you wes that's gonna you don't look like you're ready for it what army i

00:02:42.560 mean we don't really have an army anymore we've got a ceremonial force we can well it's it i mean

00:02:47.260 it's not that bad we've still got about 70 000 men something like 15 battle worthy ships some

00:02:54.920 kind of air force be fair we've got a lot more admirals than we've got ships we've got like a

00:02:59.000 i think like 100 admirals so yeah in fact speaking of uh the admirals and uh the air chief marshals

00:03:08.000 This is Sir Richard Knighton, who said we need, quote,

00:03:10.820 a whole-of-society response, including an increase to regular forces, cadets, and services.

00:03:17.800 I didn't really have Burnham's government as a wartime government on my bingo card.

00:03:24.520 Andy Burnham, right, okay, guys, we're going to have to invade Russia or something.

00:03:28.560 Are we?

00:03:29.600 Does he not strike you as the supreme leader type?

00:03:31.620 Not really.

00:03:32.700 I've noticed they never say who we're going to war against.

00:03:35.120 I mean, I assume it's Russia.

00:03:36.220 i mean i i guess i mean the assumption is that it's russia i mean no one's saying anything

00:03:41.640 just this i mean it's a bit odd isn't it that they're beating the drum we are going to have

00:03:45.860 to go to war i mean against who can you mention that bit yeah and there's an unknown ill-defined

00:03:54.060 enemy that in three years time we're going to have a war with and there's basically no information

00:03:59.240 or details being given other than stock up prepare for war just in case yeah that's exactly it

00:04:06.140 And I wonder if it's just a load of diffuse random information being thrown out,

00:04:11.440 random warnings to keep people panicking.

00:04:13.780 Well, they're trying to make it so that people don't panic.

00:04:17.420 The framing is, you know, don't be alarmed, just be aware, right?

00:04:21.200 That in three years' time, the government has prepared a war.

00:04:24.240 That seems rather counterintuitive to me.

00:04:27.220 It just happens to be around the time when a general election would be called, right?

00:04:30.720 It happens to be around that time that they've decided,

00:04:33.480 yeah we're going to have a war with someone so get ready we're going to have a whole society

00:04:38.300 response we're going to start um volunteer conscripting people wait volunteer conscripting

00:04:45.920 is a bit is that like consensual rape i mean how does yeah i don't really know how it works yeah

00:04:50.480 right but um but anyway and they've been planning this for a while so this was under starma

00:04:54.600 um the beginning of this year uh they increased the maximum recall age for military personnel

00:05:00.220 from 55 to 65 so they they will literally be sending out people who are almost pensioners

00:05:06.060 when you get your bus pass at 62 quite possibly i don't know i've never applied for a bus pass

00:05:11.780 well you can use it on the way to your recruitment center yeah so they're the armed forces bill will

00:05:17.560 grow the pool of former service personnel who defense could draw on in times of crisis and

00:05:22.660 move welcomed by most senior military leaders who think that we're going to war with someone

00:05:27.420 again it's not even clear now it's not just britain that's doing this either it's basically

00:05:33.380 all of nato that is doing this they've decided actually okay putin couldn't take a fifth of

00:05:41.080 ukraine but somehow russian tanks are going to be in paris by christmas or something right or

00:05:48.360 christmas 2030 but a former lance corporal who's 64 is going to head that off perhaps this is the

00:05:54.380 new program to go alongside voluntary euthanasia i don't know which which way would you like to go

00:06:00.240 blaze of glory or or death pod yeah blaze of glory i guess anyway it's it's not just britain um the

00:06:09.220 swedish defense chiefs the swedish minister is just like yeah prepare for war it's like who the

00:06:14.300 hell are you fighting that was back in 2024 right uh denmark is raising conscripts again

00:06:20.880 volunteered to take part in the advanced conscription program that was in february this

00:06:26.380 year again i don't understand how voluntary conscription works no um both of those words

00:06:31.660 mean the opposite of each other but it's it's really interesting because conscription is what

00:06:35.100 the state does when it is legitimate right conscription is what happens when it's like

00:06:40.260 you know you have to come and fight for your country now and because we have my country will

00:06:45.440 Because we have, well, quote-unquote, for your country, but because we have enough political capital that we can exercise it in, forcing you to go and fight for the government, that's what you do, that's what a conscription is.

00:07:01.780 A volunteer conscription implies that the government doesn't feel it has the political capital to conscript, right?

00:07:07.080 And, I mean, when they've been talking about it in the British context as well, they've absolutely been saying, well, we just want people to volunteer.

00:07:13.700 It's like, yes, Andy Burnham has apparently ruled out conscription, which is probably for the best.

00:07:18.420 Anyway, Germany voted to bring in, quote, voluntary military service for 18-year-olds.

00:07:24.780 It's like, but can't they join the army anyway?

00:07:28.640 If you're 18, surely you can just join the German army.

00:07:31.780 This all seems like rather pointless gestures, just to try and keep people in, like, war-footing mindset more than anything.

00:07:39.060 There we go. That's exactly what this is.

00:07:40.540 They are expecting some sort of conflict, and so they're trying to essentially prime the population for it.

00:07:47.340 France, Macron planned to introduce 10-month service amongst 18- and 19-year-olds to help France respond to, quote, accelerating threats.

00:07:57.640 But Paris is on fire right now.

00:08:00.720 Yes, you might think that.

00:08:03.560 But at least they specify, at least the French stipulate, oh, we're worried about Russia.

00:08:08.560 Oh, OK.

00:08:08.880 OK, that is significant.

00:08:10.240 So the French actually have identified an enemy that you're going to fight.

00:08:13.420 When the war starts, they know which way to be heading off.

00:08:15.720 They know what to put in the sat-nav, whereas we'd just be left like,

00:08:18.120 okay, the war's started.

00:08:18.980 Okay, well, what do I do now?

00:08:19.960 Who are we fighting?

00:08:20.640 Exactly, yeah.

00:08:21.240 Well, we didn't want to alarm you, but it's Ukraine, unsurprisingly.

00:08:25.560 And a French general came out and was like,

00:08:27.540 look, you're going to have to come to terms with losing your children

00:08:31.200 in a conflict with Russia.

00:08:32.800 Yeah, I'm not up for that.

00:08:33.680 Yeah, I'm not up for that either, actually, weirdly enough.

00:08:36.320 um poland has begun large-scale training for adults uh something like 100 000 volunteers

00:08:41.940 they want to train annually um so i mean they're a lot closer to russia so i can and they've got a

00:08:49.020 much more direct history with russia so i can understand why they're concerned about it and

00:08:53.440 in a nato speech at the end of last year mark root the nato secretary general uh said quote

00:09:00.840 europe must be prepared for the or nato must be prepared for the scale of a war

00:09:04.940 our grandparents or great-grandparents endured so they're expecting world war

00:09:09.540 three with russia what and china taiwan is also planning

00:09:16.860 for a whole of society defense resilience committee

00:09:20.240 uh to resist the chinese invasion so the chinese have been massing

00:09:23.780 near the sort of coast that would be the staging point for the invasion of taiwan

00:09:29.420 So did there any point explain why we have to go to war with Russia and China?

00:09:34.240 No.

00:09:35.200 Right.

00:09:35.600 I mean, personally, if they're coming to me and saying,

00:09:38.960 your children have to die, at a minimum, I'd want to know why.

00:09:43.120 You would think.

00:09:44.080 I mean, at least in the case of France,

00:09:45.980 they are prepared to tell us who they're dying from.

00:09:49.580 But in the case of Andy Burnham's cowardly government,

00:09:52.200 of course, they're not going to tell you what the nature is.

00:09:56.000 so we just assume it's russia and probably china right okay so i mean i don't like taiwan are

00:10:04.780 prepared for china to invade but and they have been for a long time but china is dependent on

00:10:10.440 america for its economic base basically so why would they want to try and take taiwan which

00:10:18.020 america will flip out about what what's the advantage well and more to the point i mean

00:10:23.420 let's say china does take taiwan i don't want that to happen yeah but i don't want to die

00:10:28.280 stopping it because it's not it's not my concern sure but well it would be your concern because

00:10:34.380 taiwan for some reason is like one of a very few number of places in the world that manufactures

00:10:40.100 specific kind of chips uh for some reason everyone was like yeah why don't we just put the

00:10:45.220 area near china yeah that desperately wants taiwan back and has done forever for a hundred years

00:10:54.580 why don't we just put the production of this vital kind of chip that no one else can produce

00:10:58.820 anywhere else right there so well i can think of a few reasons actually why we wouldn't do that

00:11:03.660 i mean to be fair biden to give us the chips act which was an attempt to start because there's a

00:11:07.960 lot of very expensive capex you need to go through in order to produce these chips it's very difficult

00:11:13.120 apparently yeah i don't know anything about so biden did start the process of trying to

00:11:17.040 reassure it but i mean america spent the last 50 years offshoring everything it can so yeah for

00:11:22.220 some reason doesn't doesn't make any sense anyway um and so that's that's just the military side of

00:11:28.000 everything that's going to happen basically they're eyeing up uh healthy men don't even

00:11:33.820 have to be young men right just just men who are in reasonable health they're like they look tasty

00:11:39.320 for the meat grinder in ukraine they could go you could just go and get blown up by the russians

00:11:44.060 oh great thank thanks very much um i definitely want to fight for this regime so get the burgers

00:11:49.880 in now lads you don't want to be healthy enough for this basically uh but also they're like by

00:11:55.460 the way um and there's where streeting this is exactly my point made uh prepare some visage

00:12:00.920 yeah yeah exactly our war master uh prepare for supply chain disruption from cyber or climate

00:12:06.600 emergencies treating warms because they're convinced that the uh the russians are like

00:12:10.660 uh digital wizards and can do things that um all of the actual high-tech countries can't do

00:12:17.460 he does look surprisingly north korean dictatorish doesn't he

00:12:21.520 for a white man he's definitely he's got that look yes north korean dictator yes

00:12:26.480 um but the point is packaging with climate emergencies as well yeah i mean that gets

00:12:32.060 me over the line i mean i was i was on the fence about you know being blown up in a ditch but now

00:12:36.860 they've linked it to uh the weather so i mean i'm sorry with stuff like this could it not be a case

00:12:42.360 when was this just the other day that these people who are in charge have known they have so

00:12:48.160 monumentally screwed up in so many different ways on so many different channels they're probably

00:12:55.240 going to be experiencing supply chain disruptions that's going to massively increase the cost of

00:12:59.880 everyone's life and so they're just throwing it out into the media oh it's going to be russia's

00:13:03.340 fault totally going to be russia's fault guys and the climate guys that's what it's going to be

00:13:10.220 us no no no we've been looking after your best interests this whole time yeah i mean what this

00:13:15.840 what this tells us is the deep strain of insecurity in the liberal world order at the moment

00:13:19.780 uh they're not convinced that things will just carry on exactly as they have done in the past

00:13:24.740 uh 50 years um obviously Andy Burnham the Prime Minister came out and said well stock up on tinned

00:13:31.900 food and bottled water Josh is sorted have you stocked up on tinned food and bottled water

00:13:36.180 I did that years ago okay well then fair enough what about you Harry no no well I actually well

00:13:42.040 I actually do have plenty of tinned food bottled water less so yeah well you might want to get

00:13:45.820 some because apparently they genuinely think that you will um end up without water for at least three

00:13:52.360 days worth they think you should get burnham said it's not about panicking it's just taking

00:13:56.620 sensible measures to have enough in your house to tide you over should there be a difficult

00:14:00.180 situation you absolute coward what you're saying is we're going to go with we're going to go with

00:14:04.760 toward russia and this will impact supply lines and infrastructure to the point where you will

00:14:11.700 go without food and water for at least three days that's what they're telling you right my wife asked

00:14:17.160 me about that she said you know because she got one of these alerts through some some social media

00:14:21.860 yeah that'd be the be ready campaign that's the currently running she got this alert and she said

00:14:26.400 why why is the government um so worried that we have supplies for three days my response was

00:14:31.500 because they know they won't be in power if it lasts any longer than three days so they don't

00:14:34.720 care yeah so uh anyway this is what they want you to do they've got a checklist of things for you to

00:14:42.160 get um they've got uh you know be ready to get three days while support reaches you again i don't

00:14:49.000 really know what they think is actually going to happen but remember you've got three years

00:14:52.520 you've got a thousand days right to get this done um but anyway they want to make sure that you've

00:14:56.900 got you know tools a radio a wind-up radio food water blah blah blah right okay yep does any of

00:15:04.080 this make sense while at the same time bringing in loads of immigrants into the country this is

00:15:10.940 why the french are like we're going to go to all the russia or the paris is just on fire france is

00:15:16.000 just burning in the background so if you live in paris and you're a man you're supposed to leave

00:15:20.400 your wife and kids at home yes while your city is currently on fire while people are currently being

00:15:26.360 beaten on the streets and go and fight in a foreign war yeah that's exactly the proposition

00:15:31.560 that they're making and because of the advanced technological nature of the infrastructure of the

00:15:38.980 west they think that cyber attacks will intercede in it cause it to shut down and therefore you'll

00:15:45.100 without essential resources right so i mean you know it it could have been that we just had an

00:15:51.260 old-fashioned thing but now everything has to be smart these days so there's going to be some sort

00:15:54.880 of great reset in about three years which funnily enough brings us to about 2030 which is funnily

00:16:02.380 enough a date that they've been talking about for the last 20 years it is really weird how this all

00:16:08.040 kind of converges to this one point it's very strange all roads lead to 2030 and some sort of

00:16:14.100 great research yeah but it's like i said it's not just our government it's every western government

00:16:19.740 this is finland how could you cope for 72 hours uh and honestly in finland i mean isn't that kind

00:16:26.420 of a dispersed it's a very large country i love the idea of 72 hours by myself yeah i know that

00:16:32.320 does sound wonderful doesn't it but anyway yeah you've got to cope for to prepare independently

00:16:37.440 for three days should a disruption occur keep food water and medicines and know the importance

00:16:44.040 of basic preparedness okay finland uh didn't realize finland was on the verge of going to

00:16:48.400 war with someone uh here we have sweden in case of christ's war uh here's their brochure keep a

00:16:54.040 thousand kroner in cash per adult and they say quote we will never surrender it's like what

00:17:01.000 that's all sweden did that's the first thing you did anyway anyway right they're never going to

00:17:06.920 Surrender to Russia. Surrendering to Nazi

00:17:08.940 Germany is fine. Surrendering to Russia

00:17:10.980 never. Never. It's like, okay

00:17:12.880 libtards. Surrendering Malmo, that's

00:17:14.960 not a problem. Yes, surrendering Malmo

00:17:16.920 to Iraqi immigrants, that's fine.

00:17:19.600 Norway, the same.

00:17:21.080 They want you to get a week's worth of

00:17:22.920 food, get iodine tablets.

00:17:25.440 Why would they need iodine tablets?

00:17:27.420 They're the ones that are useful to

00:17:28.880 control the reaction if a nuclear weapon

00:17:30.740 goes off. Correct. That's exactly what it is.

00:17:32.900 Get a camping stove and firewood.

00:17:35.280 which is probably fairly common in Norway, to be honest.

00:17:37.600 But anyway, yeah, so they think you need a week.

00:17:40.520 Denmark says three days, nine litres of water and FM radio.

00:17:44.800 The Netherlands have got 72 hours.

00:17:48.000 Extreme weather, war or major outage.

00:17:52.040 Is this the Netherlands?

00:17:53.240 A very consistent theme of this is the internet might go off in 2030.

00:17:57.420 Yes.

00:17:58.580 And also, not just the internet,

00:18:00.580 all of the standard amenities that you expect in your house might go off right the supermarkets

00:18:08.780 won't have food yes the petrol won't be available so you won't be able to drive anywhere and you

00:18:14.140 won't have running water in your house well i don't know i'm less convinced by the water bit

00:18:18.800 but if you take down the internet all of that other stuff goes because the payment network goes

00:18:21.960 so wholesalers don't supply the shops and the shops won't sell it to you so this has been a

00:18:26.000 repeated thing they've said keep a decent amount of cash in your house because as you say the

00:18:33.060 the processing the payment processing network might go off but it's just curious that we've

00:18:37.380 got governments all around the world who who are desperately trying to regulate speech more because

00:18:42.040 they don't like what people on the internet are saying who are now saying oh by the way the spooky

00:18:46.140 russians might come along and do a um a cyber attack and we might all lose the internet at the

00:18:52.720 same time wouldn't that be awful then you had to rely on us and every government is saying this

00:18:56.400 at the same time yeah this is france this is their all responsible guide uh they want you to

00:19:02.180 have sent it to our kit two liters of water a day radio cash and a multi-tool it's all the same

00:19:06.100 stuff uh ireland uh there's no particular day count for the irish they're just like indefinitely

00:19:11.200 just you know you live in ireland um and have a paper roadmap as well interestingly

00:19:18.120 Germany wants 10 days

00:19:20.500 if possible

00:19:21.180 in Poland

00:19:23.400 we need to have an evacuation backpack

00:19:25.380 this is explicitly war framed

00:19:27.220 I don't know, you can't see the translation at the moment

00:19:29.380 but it's framed explicitly around war

00:19:31.900 and to have basically a bug out bag

00:19:33.540 it's like Jesus Christ

00:19:35.100 Lithuania, 72 hours

00:19:37.460 Estonia, one week

00:19:39.180 and Taiwan, at least a week

00:19:41.240 air raid shelters and they've got an invasion chapter

00:19:43.900 and any claims of surrender

00:19:45.960 are false, by the way

00:19:47.720 i mean to be fair for taiwan this is the first one on the list where i'm like yeah fair enough

00:19:52.200 that makes sense right yeah yeah uh south korea is a emergency action guide including going to

00:19:58.360 shelters getting gas masks i have a go bag but no particular day count and uh for japan it's uh a

00:20:05.580 week of preparedness um sorry three days sorry ideally one week but be prepared for all the

00:20:11.920 things but also earthquakes so i mean that that one makes it but i'm just kind of curious on this

00:20:17.940 is that whenever i listen to political leaders in the mainstream media they're always telling

00:20:22.480 us how useless and pathetic russia is and how it can't even beat ukraine and it's on the verge of

00:20:26.580 falling over and putin's on his 17th heart attack and all the stuff like that they have sanctioned

00:20:30.640 them but simultaneously they're also able to basically invade the world overnight yeah but

00:20:37.160 I think, so, and the last one was America with the FEMA kits.

00:20:41.920 Several days, a gallon of water per person per day, et cetera, et cetera.

00:20:46.440 So I have a funny feeling that I can't help but feel that the reason that all of the Western leaders,

00:20:54.380 all of the Western governments are doing this,

00:20:55.680 is because they've essentially psyoped themselves into believing Russia is actually more powerful than it actually is.

00:21:01.400 because remember it might seem like they're lying to the public when they say yeah all of this far

00:21:09.000 right stuff is just russian bots right all of this far right stuff is just russia has

00:21:13.880 gin this up out of nothing because they can't accept that actually a large percentage of their

00:21:19.580 own populations are really not liberal right and so russia has to be the boogeyman behind everything

00:21:24.540 um i think like we we hear it and we think well they're obviously bsing us because nobody would

00:21:30.620 be so stupid as to think russia was literally this competent that in every western country it

00:21:35.720 can orchestrate a far right insurrection like the afd reform all this you know russia le pen

00:21:41.620 russia isn't that competent right um but remember the these people are no more intelligent than

00:21:47.620 anyone else and i think they might genuinely believe that russia is about to launch a thousand

00:21:53.480 tanks in a big sweeping maneuver across europe i honestly think they think it and i think they

00:21:58.440 think that russia despite the fact that it's it's a it's a raw raw materials exporter not an advanced

00:22:04.400 goods exporter i think they think that russia is capable of all kinds of cyber attacks i mean there

00:22:10.520 is a potential version of this in that if you were to if you would take eurasia as a whole

00:22:14.860 so russia with its resources china with its high tech in energy and then you just add in a bit of

00:22:20.460 the monsoon region because of the the demographics you do actually get a potential rival superpower

00:22:26.160 they can't get their act together they can't coordinate they can't agree anything between

00:22:29.260 each other but potentially that is a a world power yes but rather than rather than try and

00:22:34.720 tease russia in with a bit of honey rather than vinegar to pill them off from china which is the

00:22:40.180 correct geopolitical move yeah instead they're doing everything they can to force this group

00:22:44.620 together yeah i mean literally under biden where they kick them off swift yeah and force them to

00:22:50.120 get chinese uh payment processing it's like well that was that was stupid wasn't it you know really

00:22:57.040 really stupid and the thing is as well it you had everything primed in the russian orbit for that

00:23:02.820 to happen russia has always venerated western european culture yeah it's always venerated

00:23:07.620 putin was a lawyer in germany for a long time and they've they've always wanted to be accepted by

00:23:12.100 the west but the west has always been like no you're not libtards we hate you because you're

00:23:16.440 not libtards so yeah but the chinese aren't libtards either it's like yeah but they're far

00:23:19.360 away we can we can for some reason deal with that dictator but we can't deal with a white dictator

00:23:24.020 seems to be the attitude that they have um so anyway like i said the the the western governments

00:23:30.620 i think they've sighed themselves into thinking the western liberal order is about to collapse

00:23:34.340 globalism is basically going to come to an end and i think that this is i mean you see it and

00:23:40.100 andy burnham sort of like oh yeah we're gonna restart uh north sea oil and things like this

00:23:44.640 i think they're slowly but surely coming to the conclusion that actually maybe globalism is over

00:23:49.320 and actually, you know, I think this they've extrapolated into

00:23:54.540 Russia's going to send a billion tanks our way and things like this,

00:23:57.740 which I don't think is going to happen.

00:23:59.360 But the point is, they're paranoid and they're panicking

00:24:02.640 and they've got to the point now where they're telling their own populations,

00:24:06.060 by the way, in three years' time, a lot of bad stuff's going to happen.

00:24:10.540 It's like, really? Really?

00:24:11.840 Are we going to own nothing and be happy about that, are we?

00:24:14.600 All right, I'll leave it there.

00:24:16.000 Sounds that way.

00:24:16.420 interesting theory from scott sci-guy rumble rants right here russia paid zoe quinn to sleep

00:24:23.800 around with all of those games journalists causing gamergate and honestly i can believe it

00:24:29.800 yeah i could too zoe quinn paid russian agent my goodness so they're planning on going to war just

00:24:35.040 when i tell them 40 god damn it could you have not done this 20 years ago um well yeah probably

00:24:39.580 you're gonna have to pack those burgers in man yeah because otherwise they're coming for you

00:24:43.500 make it so they have to airlift you out of your own home base tape again never interrupt your

00:24:48.400 enemy when they're making a mistake they're about to give us our guns back be interesting

00:24:51.580 i wonder i've been pondering metal gear solid a lot recently and i'm wondering if they would

00:24:57.700 have some kind of contingency for what would obviously be a terrible idea giving imagine

00:25:03.240 giving like the um i don't know danny tomo patriots their guns and see what would happen

00:25:09.380 there um i'm wondering if they would it's not a bad idea from my perspective i wonder if they

00:25:14.520 would implement some kind of like ai powered fingerprint dna scan technology to the guns

00:25:21.700 like in metal gear solid 4 uh to make it so that they could just shut down the function

00:25:26.260 functionality of them remotely to prevent anything like that harry our country can't

00:25:31.540 make a destroyer that works there was no way they're going to get biometrics they'd get the

00:25:35.900 tech from america obviously uh orchard says voluntary conscription sends out notices but

00:25:41.480 doesn't arrest those who don't answer like the tv license yeah that's probably what it'll end up

00:25:46.080 looking yeah and like you said the general incompetence of the managerial state will just

00:25:51.500 be such that if you don't actually comply with it nothing will happen yeah dan you got to remember

00:25:56.100 my ideas for things like that are based on the idea of well what would i do if i was an evil

00:26:02.500 person in charge of the system and i i forget that they the evil people in charge of the system

00:26:07.080 might be a few iq points lower than me or probably a lot higher i mean well no you you can you can

00:26:11.640 see it when they're talking they're generally the the high iq people are definitely not up front

00:26:16.800 you know they're definitely not behind the scenes they must be um if they want us to prepare for

00:26:22.100 war the vast majority of social programs will need to be cut immediately uh you well that's

00:26:26.020 another point is that we don't have the money to go to war you know they can they can say what

00:26:29.080 they like but we just don't have the budget um they want the boat people because they know how

00:26:33.260 to live three days without food and water so the plan yeah okay let's let's carry on

00:26:39.280 just waiting for my segment

00:26:41.960 so i don't know if you guys saw that cardiff council uh are running dwarf awareness day

00:26:49.760 oh you both can shut up do you feel seen

00:26:51.680 and and then just to really emphasize the point they lit up a castle in leprechaun green

00:27:00.100 why in green for leprechauns obviously for little people and gnomes in the forest green forests

00:27:06.420 whimsy because dwarves are whimsical people obviously yes and and and so it because because

00:27:12.640 cardiff council has instructed me to be aware of dwarves that's why i'm going to talk about lula

00:27:17.020 very whimsical right here yes so lucky lucky get out of a disco night uh i don't know what he's

00:27:25.380 did he was just breaking it down to funkadelic right before this photo was taken but this is

00:27:30.240 a very very lucky man i know you covered well you covered on the podcast yesterday of stelios

00:27:34.640 didn't you that he um he's just won another election he's brought one nation under a groove

00:27:41.120 Very luckily, in fact. I mean, here's Britain's premier right-wing paper, The Telegraph, where they're reporting Lula wins a fourth term as Brazilian president in huge upset.

00:27:54.800 Well, that's putting it mildly. We're going into some of that.

00:27:57.960 Leftist president stages dramatic comeback to defeat far-right rival Flavio Bolsonaro.

00:28:05.180 So how dramatic a comeback was it?

00:28:08.680 Well, we go into that.

00:28:10.880 It's surprisingly dramatic.

00:28:11.660 I just thought it was notable that the main right-wing paper in Britain

00:28:15.140 is describing Bolsonaro as far right.

00:28:19.580 Ciding Lula, for anyone who doesn't know, is just a communist.

00:28:22.220 He's been in jail for corruption.

00:28:24.520 And now he's out of jail and definitely didn't corruptly find himself

00:28:29.020 for fourth term as the president.

00:28:30.140 Oh, no, certainly not.

00:28:30.800 I made the joke yesterday, but in South America,

00:28:33.140 I just assume you have to have spent some time in prison

00:28:35.440 to become a politician.

00:28:36.820 Well, he has.

00:28:37.320 here we go we've got a picture of five foot two lula here um after after he uh got out of prison

00:28:44.440 well that was last night which is obviously after uh he went away to prison but yeah um yeah this

00:28:49.460 is this is this is the waters that our elite marinate in main right wing paper though isn't

00:28:54.560 it like the communist oh he's won a fourth term the far right rival has been defeated as if that's

00:29:01.160 good exactly i mean the language in the article is quite sycophantic i mean here's another sort

00:29:05.200 paper record for the british elite uh brazil's incumbent leader won almost 52 percent of vote

00:29:10.640 and beat flavio bolsonaro the eldest son of coup-mongering former president

00:29:15.580 again these are the waters that are political elite swimming

00:29:20.300 bolsonaro didn't engage in a coup though that's why he had to flee to america yeah that's why he's

00:29:26.900 not currently president yes because he didn't commit a coup but they were worried that he might

00:29:32.060 and therefore they jailed him for 27 years yeah but again just the framing on this i find

00:29:37.560 extraordinarily um here's a slightly better timeline of of what went down so um the the

00:29:45.500 issue is is that in brazil they basically provided free busing to and from the voting centers

00:29:50.100 and under under brazilian election law those those can't be branded um for the party party

00:29:57.960 but it had pt all over them right and and so there was some upset about that so when you hear

00:30:04.040 that they asked for an extension because of problems with the buses the problem was is the

00:30:09.060 buses were covered in signs for one of the political parties and they made them take the

00:30:13.720 stickers off or run different buses and that's why there was a delay in the buses which prompted

00:30:18.560 to the request for the extension so so i understand that the the the judges who are all leftists

00:30:24.140 extended the number of hours that the votes could be counted by,

00:30:29.660 specifically because the PT buses were late.

00:30:32.980 Yes, because they were slapped all over with...

00:30:37.140 Sounds like a fair and legal election to me.

00:30:40.740 So, yeah, they've got an election court that sits over these things.

00:30:45.600 The Supreme Court assigned a single justice to review.

00:30:48.340 Luckily that...

00:30:49.700 Because we've got to keep coming back to how lucky it was.

00:30:52.240 Specifically in those states which heavily skew towards Lula.

00:30:55.640 Interesting.

00:30:55.820 Yes.

00:30:56.840 Now, luckily, the judge who ended up making the decision

00:30:59.720 was a personal friend and personal lawyer of Lula himself.

00:31:03.300 What were the odds?

00:31:03.960 I bet they were drawing straws, and it just happens to be his best buddy.

00:31:06.780 Wow.

00:31:07.260 Yeah.

00:31:07.620 I mean, that is lucky.

00:31:09.040 And once Bolsonaro knew that Luka was asking for an extension...

00:31:13.040 You said Luka.

00:31:14.640 Lula.

00:31:14.900 Did I?

00:31:15.720 Lula, I did the same thing yesterday.

00:31:18.300 Luka was not involved in any of this...

00:31:21.020 Well, one of them, definitely, after hearing that Lula was getting an extension, Bolsonaro then asked for an extension and he said, well, can you do it for everybody then?

00:31:32.020 And that's the leftist talking point is both sides requested the extension.

00:31:36.560 Right.

00:31:37.500 I mean, yeah.

00:31:38.000 But only one side got it.

00:31:39.500 Well, no, they did do it across the country.

00:31:41.980 Oh, OK.

00:31:42.280 But here's the clever thing, right?

00:31:44.720 So under Brazilian election law, at five o'clock, you have to shut down the polling station, turn off your electronic machines.

00:31:51.020 And once they're turned off, you can't turn them back on again.

00:31:53.140 You seal your ballot boxes.

00:31:55.500 So this order came down at 501 and was then communicated out.

00:31:59.940 Now, unfortunately, all of Bolsonaro's strongest areas had already closed by the time they were told that they can stay open.

00:32:11.240 But the order specifically said, if you have closed, you cannot reopen.

00:32:16.180 Right.

00:32:16.280 now luckily in all of the lula areas it's just not closed they hadn't quite got around to it

00:32:23.420 they were just about to press the button to turn the machine off and they hadn't and then oh what's

00:32:28.120 that we can stay open and it just so happened that they did that in all of the areas where

00:32:33.780 lula was strongest that's so lucky that is i mean that is lucky i mean so just what are the odds

00:32:39.420 yeah but here we go by amazing coincidence nearly all of the machines that hadn't locked yet were

00:32:44.220 in the four states where lula polls were over 70 percent so i mean that that is quite extraordinary

00:32:50.560 well done um i mean there is a case if you want to look in the reading notes of here is a um a

00:32:55.980 poll worker who was basically describing the process so yeah they closed they closed correctly

00:33:01.780 under brazilian law they closed the ballot boxes sealed the ballot boxes turn the machines off at

00:33:05.400 five o'clock yeah at 505 there was an announcement that actually no you can stay open for two hours

00:33:10.940 and they were like well hang on we've already closed so can we reopen and at which point the

00:33:15.280 authorities got involved and said categorically no you cannot reopen wow

00:33:18.980 so really this this isn't so much i mean people in the international press are calling is an

00:33:25.700 extension i mean really is a reopening yes that's what that's what that's what it really is technically

00:33:30.320 yes some anyway but i mean you know she goes through here it's an interesting case of somebody

00:33:36.880 who was just stuck in this decision they're trying to figure out well what the hell do we do

00:33:39.860 and you know every time they ask questions they're told well you don't do anything you've

00:33:43.820 closed so you're closed see i just love that it's like yeah no the the result hasn't gone the way

00:33:48.220 you want well we'll just mess around with the process then yep there's no procedure of this

00:33:52.820 but we just mess around with the process and lo and behold it happened to work in our favor and

00:33:56.780 you which is lucky um it's so fortunate here we go we got um why the supreme court ordered the

00:34:02.720 vote to be extended um so there we go so yeah so you've got the the voting machines there um

00:34:09.020 funny how voting machines crop up in lucky elections quite a lot yeah they they i think

00:34:15.440 they actually use the same ones that everyone was freaking out about in 2020 as well i can't

00:34:20.380 remember the sequoia something like that but a name it doesn't doesn't leak to my mind yeah

00:34:26.640 there we go there's a picture of the judge who ordered it um personal friend of lula's his

00:34:31.240 former personal defence attorney and luckily he was the character who got involved in it which I

00:34:37.580 thought was very interesting. So yeah so he had previously served as Lula's personal defence

00:34:42.700 lawyer and Lula was lucky enough to discover that he happened to be the most qualified person in

00:34:48.420 the country when he needed a Supreme Court justice in 2023. Incredible. And at 5.01 this guy said

00:34:54.920 that you can stay open if you haven't already closed and unfortunately only Lula's areas got

00:35:00.540 got the memo, which is

00:35:02.540 lucky.

00:35:04.320 Now, what is extra lucky

00:35:06.420 for Lula is that

00:35:08.260 only three

00:35:10.520 weeks ago, the country had

00:35:12.420 gone overwhelmingly to the

00:35:14.580 right for the Congress

00:35:16.400 and the Senate vote. Really?

00:35:18.360 So, as kind of

00:35:19.980 bellwether indicative

00:35:22.040 votes as to where

00:35:24.440 the country is. Yes. Three weeks

00:35:26.600 ago, it was very much on the right.

00:35:28.140 Straight to the right, or this way.

00:35:30.060 but uh okay so but for some reason during the presidential election they were like no we want

00:35:35.000 a communist as our president actually yes i mean lucky for lula brazil changed its mind in the space

00:35:40.380 of three weeks wow he must have been really persuasive well he must have been yeah four

00:35:45.220 foot eleven uh lula was able to spectacular rhetoric was able to get them over the line

00:35:50.040 on that um what let's subtract a few inches every time you mention his height maybe

00:35:55.640 um yeah so that's the least lucky thing about him so far but people will make him the claim

00:36:03.300 this is the first time since uh brazil's return to democracy um that uh the person who's won the

00:36:10.060 first round has lost the second round so so yeah like you all of the signs are pointing to a right

00:36:15.680 wing victory and somehow he just manages to get an incredible left wing victory just out of nowhere

00:36:21.180 incredibly he's a lucky man amazing um and i just thought i'd check some of the the sums on this so

00:36:28.720 i i pulled it out so uh here are my notes on it so this is every uh first and second round election

00:36:36.120 um since the country returned to moxley in 1989 and it turns out in every case you can see the

00:36:41.080 first round win and the second round winner um and every time it's been the same um except for this

00:36:47.240 one um yeah there's a reason he won the first round yes it's because he got the most votes

00:36:53.780 and that translated into the second round what a surprise yes and i mean it's it's not just that

00:36:59.480 the other claim that this guy is is making is um well what what about the um um you know what

00:37:08.680 about the other candidates what changed between the first and second round so let's have a look

00:37:12.160 at who was in the first round who got eliminated so you got augusto curry um who was a right-wing

00:37:20.580 guy who got three and a half million votes um he endorsed bolsonaro right um this guy another

00:37:27.700 right-wing guy he didn't endorse anyone after he dropped out but he is a right-wing guy another

00:37:32.980 two million votes there um this uh ronaldo cadero chap he explicitly endorsed bolsonaro

00:37:39.420 and this Romu chap he also endorsed Bolsonaro really so you add up all of

00:37:45.640 these and there was some minor candidates and actually to be fair there

00:37:48.600 were a number of left-wing candidates but that's only 200,000 votes whereas

00:37:54.000 the rest of them as you can see as many millions yeah add this all up and you

00:37:58.900 get to nine million votes that were to play for hmm now lucky Lula managed to

00:38:04.500 get 10 million of them very impressive nine million votes to grab he got 10 million of them

00:38:14.380 including um it would appear a hundred percent so presumably even augusto curry himself

00:38:20.880 voted for lula plus a million people who hadn't bothered to vote before um which is quite fascinating

00:38:28.900 He's really activated those disaffected people who feel politics doesn't represent them.

00:38:36.100 Yes, and voted for directly the opposite thing to this.

00:38:40.380 So Lula won 73.6% of the net votes gained by the finalists.

00:38:47.320 So Bolsonaro led the first round by 2 million.

00:38:50.540 Lula gained 10 million between the first and second round.

00:38:55.520 Bolsonaro only gained 3 million out of that.

00:38:57.720 And so there was a swing of 7 million votes to Lula in the space of a couple of weeks.

00:39:03.340 Even though Bolsonaro won the first round.

00:39:05.320 Yeah.

00:39:06.240 Incredible.

00:39:07.100 And here we go.

00:39:07.700 Here's Curry endorsing Bolsonaro.

00:39:12.800 So the guy with 3.6 million votes.

00:39:16.660 There's the other one, Cadero, endorsing Bolsonaro.

00:39:21.460 So quite remarkable, really.

00:39:24.200 The luck doesn't end there.

00:39:25.940 So, I mean, this particular city, as explained, in the first round, more than double the votes, Bolsonaro got double the votes of Lula.

00:39:38.740 And in the second round, Lula won it almost hands down, almost unanimously.

00:39:44.580 Which is lucky.

00:39:46.760 Flavia won 11 votes.

00:39:49.720 Yes.

00:39:50.940 And Lula got nearly 6,000.

00:39:52.700 It's lucky that they all changed their mind.

00:39:55.280 Yeah, I mean, wow, I can only imagine how persuasive his rhetoric must have been.

00:39:59.500 I mean, Lula's luck doesn't end there.

00:40:02.480 So let's have a look at the Brazilian Stock Exchange.

00:40:08.180 This is actually an ETF based on it, but same thing more or less.

00:40:12.100 So Lula doesn't like rich people.

00:40:13.660 Well, luckily, there's a lot less rich people now because the Brazilian Stock Exchange tanked after that,

00:40:19.320 as did the Brazilian currency.

00:40:22.900 all have nose dyes

00:40:25.240 and Lula's duck doesn't end

00:40:27.640 there because I'm kind of getting to the

00:40:29.420 key sort of differential why I'm doing this today

00:40:31.660 even though Stelios covered

00:40:33.600 it yesterday is

00:40:35.100 it turns out

00:40:37.700 that lucky for Lula

00:40:38.900 one of the judges that he appointed

00:40:41.500 felt the need to basically

00:40:43.440 get Bolsonaro's passport

00:40:45.560 taken off him

00:40:46.480 because it turns out that maybe

00:40:49.620 he's committed some sort of crimes

00:40:51.420 oh and so what what so the the very latest news is oh do we do the link add in maybe i'll go to

00:41:01.820 this oh there we go so um you know i might have to kill the sound but you should see a plane coming

00:41:09.260 up in a minute there we go bolsonaro had to flee over the border to argentina uh get on a plane

00:41:19.340 is now headed for the U.S.

00:41:21.760 Just like his dad.

00:41:23.720 Well, no, his dad's in jail now.

00:41:27.140 Yeah, but he did go to America initially.

00:41:28.840 Yes, I mean, he did initially go to America.

00:41:31.340 So Bolsonaro's dad is in jail for 30 years at the moment.

00:41:34.980 His brother has already gone to the U.S.

00:41:38.600 I mean, nothing says a lucky politician

00:41:41.200 like your opponents either being in jail

00:41:44.060 or having to flee the country.

00:41:45.100 i mean it's just such a transparently free and fair election uh well obviously um yeah because

00:41:53.800 bolsonaro basically had to concede because trump took a look at this and trump came out

00:41:58.300 uh and said well look in trump's opinion lulu wasn't just lucky he he rigged it but um but what

00:42:06.520 he did not say is that the u.s was going to do anything about it and that was the point where

00:42:10.840 bolsonaro said basically okay the game's up um i'm just going to get out the country

00:42:15.240 uh which which is interesting um another thing that i note which kind of relates to your segment

00:42:22.460 carl is that um putin came out and congratulated lulu on this now you would expect putin to

00:42:30.740 congratulate lulu the reason being is that lulu is a proponent of bricks and bolsonaro was not

00:42:36.440 yeah now in this case uh i mean losing brazil from bricks i mean for a start they'd lose the

00:42:44.560 bees it'd just be the ricks it'd be catastrophic yes it would be catastrophic for bricks um so

00:42:49.700 putin actually has a genuine i'm not saying he did i'm just saying he would have a genuine

00:42:54.920 motivation for interfering in this election and what i find fascinating is that at the moment a

00:43:02.600 right winger only needs to win a game of scrabble and the left will be howling for two weeks about

00:43:07.380 how it was russian interference about how putin um manipulated the results and yet curiously

00:43:15.420 even though that happens like clockwork i've not heard a single left winger make this argument

00:43:19.900 even though on this occasion putin actually has a strong motivation to do so

00:43:26.240 which i think is fascinating um some people are starting to notice

00:43:32.560 that luck like this seems to happen quite a lot these days

00:43:39.000 quite often lucky left-wingers seem to find judges or precedents or weird rules or procedures

00:43:49.940 or election delays or something like that that that tends to benefit them so i don't know why

00:43:56.580 but the left is becoming what when when the left is already in power at the point of the election

00:44:01.000 their luck never runs out yeah they they do seem to be a little bit extra lucky and i'm not entirely

00:44:08.060 sure why that happens um and i found you know numerous examples of this um i mean this is

00:44:14.680 happening more and more um there's a whole bunch of um you know elections where well in romania

00:44:20.700 didn't they just cancel the election yes it's the wrong candidate one yes they didn't get lucky in

00:44:25.780 that one so they're like no that's not valid uh quite um we've got here um his his his uh

00:44:34.000 celebration video where you can watch the four foot nine lula celebrating let me just kill you

00:44:39.660 the sound is killed on that so you get some other guy to speak first and he goes through so i just

00:44:44.940 i might just highlight some of the key points that this lucky four foot five man has made um

00:44:50.620 he talked about the first thing he talked about was an immediate ban to um social media and free

00:44:55.660 speech either the homeland stays free we die for brazil but no one's conquering brazil uh he's

00:45:03.660 talking about us tech firms probably there oh right okay which is why social media needs to die

00:45:08.380 yeah um he he calls for a wealth tax yeah because obviously brazilians are not taxed

00:45:13.420 enough at the moment um he spends quite a lot of time dehumanizing his opponent what a shock in

00:45:18.620 in very explicit terms saying you know he's not he's not human um he talks about conflict with

00:45:23.500 the us i think that might be the bit we're in at the moment brazil has a corporate tax rate of 34

00:45:29.820 clearly not high enough jesus clearly not i thought it was bad in britain at 25

00:45:34.060 25%.

00:45:35.060 He talks about changing the voting system to make sure that he can stay in.

00:45:41.240 What he actually says is, we will not let these people win.

00:45:44.980 I believe him.

00:45:45.780 Which is lucky that in order to stay in power, you need to change the voting system,

00:45:50.380 and that just so happens to result in you never losing an election again.

00:45:55.200 He talks about removing his adversaries,

00:45:58.120 and then he wraps all that up by saying that he will civilize the country.

00:46:02.280 Oh, okay.

00:46:04.060 through taxation and and larger men than lula have tried in brazil and making sure that his

00:46:11.780 opponents can't win um and then he caps it all off at the end by saying that he was chosen by god

00:46:16.320 so he he's got the divine right to rule as well that explains the luck yes i mean why would why

00:46:22.180 would you need an election if you're chosen by god i mean that's a great question exactly so

00:46:27.160 so there is all of that um i'm reminded of the cayley's wisdom on this yes the cayley did

00:46:36.240 explain that you cannot reform an election you can't have this whole pantomime of democracy if

00:46:41.940 you've got activist judges in place yeah especially in a presidential system it might be different in

00:46:48.800 a parliamentary system where each individual election is a tiny thing on its own it's a lot

00:46:53.000 harder to rig that yeah yeah not sorry to get lucky yeah it's a lot harder to get really lucky

00:46:59.460 in the parliamentary system the presidential system though yes um a lot easier in that case

00:47:07.300 now you know a lot of people are sort of breaking out you know uh this kind of thing

00:47:13.660 um and you and and to your point um yesterday harry you were saying well

00:47:17.960 brazil is turning into a shit heap that resembles brazil um i can't wait i can't believe we're

00:47:24.680 seeing the brazilification of brazil right now yes it is extraordinary however this sort of thing

00:47:29.560 and this is this is what i'm building to this is this is kind of the key point that i'm arriving

00:47:33.220 at is is it's not exactly just brazil is it i mean oh no we have seen this sort of stuff before

00:47:39.100 funny because this kind of thing is described as the brazilification of the u.s yeah it's basically

00:47:44.040 the broader south americanization of all politics everywhere it's just descending into this cartel

00:47:51.520 of corrupt people versus this cartel of corrupt people trying to screw one another over and

00:47:56.920 whoever ends at the top of the heap will then immediately go on to arrest the other people

00:48:01.060 and throw them in jail did they try that in the u.s they might have tried it yes 91 prosecutions

00:48:08.560 or something wasn't it i mean we got the mug shot yes well yes yes he didn't have to flee to

00:48:15.220 argentina no but the annoying thing is that trump kept threatening to throw hillary in jail and they

00:48:20.320 never did yes he didn't even go through with it yeah don't skinny dip in the in the rubicon

00:48:26.360 get it done but no what i'm driving at is you might be thinking okay well if i don't live

00:48:33.140 in brazil why should i care why does this matter and the key point is there is a very strong

00:48:40.840 signaling mechanism that is going on here yeah because if you look at who came out to congratulate

00:48:45.740 lula afterwards there were people that came out almost immediately the first one was was pedro

00:48:50.920 sanchez now from spain yes now he's almost certainly going to lose the next election he's

00:48:55.760 also a communist yes yeah unless he might get lucky but unless he gets lucky yeah so he didn't

00:49:01.780 he didn't hang around he came out straight away and said and quite explicitly we are going to do

00:49:06.560 this too oh we're going to get lucky like this too now that might be read as you know we're going

00:49:11.860 to do this too as in we're going to win yeah but it could also be read as this is what i'm going to

00:49:17.440 do if anyone can stop me make yourself known now because i need to know in advance yeah whether i

00:49:24.020 can actually get this over the line then you had people like um um ursula uh von der leyen come out

00:49:29.820 and say the same but most people kind of held back and most people held back until trump made

00:49:36.100 his position though right now when trump made his position though he came out and said um that he

00:49:41.040 thought in his opinion that it wasn't just luck he thought it was rigged and until then most other

00:49:47.440 world leaders hadn't actually committed to one way or the other congratulation or denouncing or

00:49:52.100 anything like that because they were probably all looking at this and thinking that is extraordinarily

00:49:58.560 lucky that is so lucky can we actually come out and say just how lucky that is 11 million vote

00:50:08.340 swing yes it's amazing because donald trump was looking at it and going the only man i know that

00:50:12.780 who could be that lucky is howard look nick and he works for me so this can't be real look

00:50:17.480 yes an 11 million vote swing where 9 million of them had previously voted right wing a few weeks

00:50:22.840 before now after after trump basically said there isn't going to be consequences for this

00:50:27.540 that's when you got the rest of them you got the claudia shall burns and you got the emmanuel

00:50:31.180 macrons and you got the ed miller bands come out afterwards so what i think is really happening

00:50:35.320 here why it's significant why you should care about this even if you don't live in brazil

00:50:38.900 is because there is a coordination mechanism going on and the coordination mechanism is

00:50:43.520 how lucky can i be and still get the global full-space order to support me afterwards

00:50:50.120 it's weird how much of a series of herd animals the rules of the west are isn't it

00:50:56.660 They all, I mean, like what I saw in my segment,

00:51:00.840 they're all saying exactly the same thing in almost exactly the same way.

00:51:03.860 Yes.

00:51:04.480 Okay, you're just a bunch of herd animals.

00:51:07.140 Understood.

00:51:08.240 Yes.

00:51:08.840 Very interesting.

00:51:10.040 But you kind of need to know, if you were thinking,

00:51:12.960 okay, I've got an election coming up that I'm going to lose,

00:51:15.800 unless I'm extremely lucky, you kind of need to know,

00:51:19.500 first of all, can you get away with it in your own country?

00:51:22.160 And these countries have been doing things to their own citizens

00:51:24.660 that you might have thought would have provoked

00:51:26.860 a much stronger pushback than they already have.

00:51:29.240 But the other thing you need to know is,

00:51:30.440 is there going to be any international pushback?

00:51:32.220 Is there going to be, am I going to get ambassadors withdrawn?

00:51:34.500 Am I going to get sanctions put on me?

00:51:36.520 And because Trump didn't put any sanctions,

00:51:38.800 he didn't withdraw the ambassador,

00:51:39.960 there's a whole bunch of things he could have done.

00:51:41.740 He didn't put any pressure on at all.

00:51:43.180 He didn't do any of that.

00:51:44.320 So basically the falls-based global order looked at that

00:51:47.940 and was able to say, okay, well, actually,

00:51:49.460 there is no consequences.

00:51:50.540 And that's when they all came out and said it.

00:51:52.460 So that's why I think you need to care a great deal about what's happening in Brazil, because let's say you're, well, Spain is an obvious example, but France with a Front National and Germany with the AFD as well.

00:52:05.920 How lucky could they get on election day at the point where they're about to be thrown out and still have the full space global order back them up on it?

00:52:16.220 That's a great question.

00:52:17.020 i mean that that that is i think the key thing with this um and and it highlights me to a point

00:52:22.620 that i've been making more recently that i'm going to bring up again kind of hammer the point

00:52:26.280 now i used to make these sort of charts in paint um but harry would always belittle me for getting

00:52:31.780 one of the words what spelt wrong so this time i've described it in excruciating detail to grok

00:52:37.780 who has produced it for me um but but essentially my thinking is right i preferred the paint version

00:52:45.200 to be honest yeah but i would have spelled something wrong anyway imagine the charm imagine

00:52:49.800 a line in the middle and everything on the left is inside the existing system and everything on

00:52:54.940 the right is outside the system you've got two effects taking place you've got the perceived

00:52:58.340 viability of the existing system basically the credibility of the existing system that's going

00:53:03.600 down over the time and then you've got the demand uh from the electorate for something else and at

00:53:10.420 the moment it's still on this side of the middle bit it's still everything here so i think the

00:53:14.860 conservative party is basically here yeah when you've got very high viability of the system

00:53:19.320 you only need the most nominally um transformative right-wing option there and i think reform is

00:53:25.920 probably a little bit over here and actually i give the front national and afd credit for being

00:53:31.760 along here i think restore is further along but they're still very much on the left hand side of

00:53:36.980 this which is to say working within the system yeah and all of that energy is going to working

00:53:42.760 within the system if the falls-based global order keeps going down this track of pushing down the

00:53:49.380 legitimacy of their existing system making you think okay well actually what is the point of

00:53:53.120 voting what is the point of doing any of this at a certain point the energy is going to cross the

00:53:58.660 line yeah and the energy is going to be in what can i build it what can i do outside of this system

00:54:03.820 rather than inside of the system and the reason i've described this as a series of escurs rather

00:54:08.800 than a series of straight lines is i think this is more like how human behavior works you're going

00:54:14.360 to get to a certain point where things start to tick up very rapidly yeah and then all of a sudden

00:54:18.760 and the actual danger i guess what i'm trying to describe here is that democracy is an extraordinarily

00:54:23.960 cheap way of maintaining order because if you have a democracy and people actually believe in it

00:54:28.880 you don't actually need to do much enforcement you've got the consent of the people or the

00:54:33.820 logic of the system. So I talked about this in my Sheldonio speech. It's very clear that you can

00:54:39.900 see from just every revolution, every regime change, that there's a certain logic that holds

00:54:45.780 until a really rapid point when it just doesn't. And the logic of the system changes. And therefore

00:54:51.120 everyone just makes completely alien decisions to what had come before. That's what I'm trying

00:54:57.300 to describe with this S-curve. Yeah, and I think you're correct. And I think you are right that it

00:55:00.760 it changes really swiftly you know and like the period of decolonization is one i talk about

00:55:07.500 fairly often and that's where the logic of the systems all just changes overnight yeah so everyone's

00:55:12.060 like i mean the british withdrawal from india was a weirdly organized thing because it was just like

00:55:17.220 all the british were like oh right we're leaving now are we okay we'll just pack up our things

00:55:20.120 get on the planes get on the boats and go and it was just it wasn't like in algeria with france

00:55:25.400 but it's just the logic changes suddenly after 400 years now we're all going now and so everyone

00:55:29.660 just goes and it's just oh okay so yeah job done yeah and and if people believe in the system

00:55:36.280 you you can get results like that people basically go along with stuff yeah well it's not even

00:55:42.160 necessarily believing the system because that was like the end of the system but it's just

00:55:45.360 when they still accepted the legitimacy of the system they didn't say okay well we're going to

00:55:50.140 find a completely other solution they said okay well we're going to go along yeah the the common

00:55:54.380 sense received wisdom just changes to something else so the commonsensical decision is just okay

00:56:01.000 well we all just have to pack our bags and leave now or the commonsensical decision is no just put

00:56:05.300 down this ethnic revolt in some province right like the thing just changes overnight and i think

00:56:11.060 the evidence of what we're seeing at the moment is that the confidence in the system has gone down

00:56:15.960 and people are basically withdrawing their energy from it so so the the stronger mechanism and i

00:56:19.780 talk about this in my next um brokonomics is as i think the decisive element is is elite withdrawal

00:56:25.380 yes when the elite decide that the existing system everything on the left hand side of this

00:56:30.400 chart is not worth putting any effort in i'm not going to be a councillor i'm not going to be a

00:56:36.600 journalist um for the bbc i'm not going to be i'm not going to work within the system i'm going to

00:56:41.940 put all of my energies into something which is an alternative and that elite withdrawal i think the

00:56:47.520 are basically on this same curve,

00:56:48.860 but they're just further up.

00:56:50.680 And this whole thing could tip at any time.

00:56:52.800 So I think it's a legitimately dangerous thing

00:56:55.040 that Brazil is doing,

00:56:55.940 and it's a legitimately dangerous thing

00:56:57.300 that all of these leaders are doing

00:56:58.540 by endorsing it.

00:57:00.520 Yes.

00:57:00.900 It's like this incredibly lucky man

00:57:02.880 is obviously well more lucky than he should be,

00:57:06.800 but they're going to endorse it anyway.

00:57:08.600 They want to be lucky too.

00:57:10.000 And I'll just end with a slight parody

00:57:13.540 of a Sacha Barrow-Cohen sketch.

00:57:17.520 which has been AI'd,

00:57:20.140 which kind of makes this point

00:57:21.280 of Lucky Lula winning a race.

00:57:34.800 People can complain about AI all they like,

00:57:37.780 but this is what it's good for.

00:57:39.240 That's what it's good for.

00:57:40.240 Yep.

00:57:41.000 Yes.

00:57:41.920 And also, hopefully,

00:57:42.960 a nice segue to the next segment.

00:57:44.560 Oh, we know we've got some comments,

00:57:45.820 haven't we?

00:57:46.520 Yes.

00:57:46.720 Some very kind and generous and, I assume, incredibly attractive people

00:57:50.620 have sent us some money in.

00:57:52.480 James says, started late, can't speak for Europe,

00:57:54.720 but in the US, every municipality from federal to local water

00:57:58.260 has always told us to have emergency provisions, usually three days.

00:58:01.640 Well, this is not normal in Europe and elsewhere.

00:58:04.620 Is it not?

00:58:05.120 No, not really.

00:58:05.860 Would these pages have not existed for a long while

00:58:09.500 and they're just being boosted now?

00:58:10.940 Well, they didn't.

00:58:11.940 They published them literally in the last couple of months.

00:58:13.640 but also the preoccupation with it even if it did exist prior to it it's very clear that the

00:58:19.800 western liberal governments have become very preoccupied with oh god we're about to start

00:58:23.360 suffering from this sort of stuff um something for us or bow to look into the u.s just instituted

00:58:28.560 project fortress prepping military bases to operate three months without access to power

00:58:33.180 logistics damn i've got to include that that's right um yes so that's another thing is they expect

00:58:38.500 the military bases to be able to operate

00:58:40.820 without central command

00:58:42.140 for up to three months

00:58:43.840 they think that the communications would

00:58:46.560 be broken up

00:58:47.700 or interceded with or something like that

00:58:50.080 what are they expecting?

00:58:51.940 in the age of information technology I would just call that proper planning

00:58:54.860 to make sure that bases

00:58:56.860 can operate autonomously like that

00:58:58.820 sure but have the phone lines gone down?

00:59:01.680 prepare for the worst

00:59:03.400 you want peace

00:59:04.520 prepare for war

00:59:05.320 Samson can you bring my segment

00:59:08.400 up please. So, segwaying nicely from Dan's, I'm going to be talking about the successes

00:59:16.620 and failures of some of Hollywood's most recent releases, which kind of coincides in many

00:59:22.580 ways with the decline and fall of the liberal global world order that we're seeing, because

00:59:28.560 Hollywood really has been like a centre of information, a trend and taste setter for

00:59:35.880 decades up to this point ever really since the beginning of Hollywood when it was originally

00:59:39.720 established and part of that has been the use of satire satire getting people to laugh is mockery

00:59:47.240 is a great way of getting people to know where and what you're allowed to like you're allowed to

00:59:54.160 laugh at these things because these things are the bad things if you're laughing at these people

00:59:59.700 and satire for a very long time and we'll hear a lot of it in this segment has been sold as

01:00:05.320 the little guy speaking truth to the establishment speaking truth to power to fight for the right

01:00:12.760 of everyone but what happens when satire is produced by the big guy explicitly to demean

01:00:20.360 the little guy and his prejudices his wants and preferences you mean sasha baron cohen's entire

01:00:27.920 career yes and you could even argue that this is what satire on a mass scale was from the beginning

01:00:34.140 i'm sure you carl i remember back to our um incredibly successful attempt to get carl to

01:00:39.180 laugh at monty python would argue that satire in the form of something like monty python was also

01:00:44.780 a bunch of as you put it liberal oxbridge types making fun of the little guy and while i enjoy a

01:00:51.560 lot of their sketches you probably write to a certain extent there but it's become ever so

01:00:56.900 blatant and really satire is quite dead now and what what do i mean well sasha baron cohen he had

01:01:03.240 that film that was everybody got all in a twist about a few months ago it's finally released it's

01:01:08.500 ali g a very very not of this time style character you can see him here uh the white guy pretending

01:01:17.020 to be the black guy the original wigger yeah but that was the thing like sasha baron cohen the

01:01:22.960 whole the whole joke is is that the character wasn't really white right he was like some i

01:01:32.420 don't know like was a jewish guy pretending to be a white guy yeah but it wasn't it wasn't about

01:01:37.560 it was jewish it was some ethnically ambiguous right london type right like the mystery meat

01:01:45.740 well i don't want to say that but like you know ethnically ambiguous you know this is a person

01:01:51.380 from diverse london in the early 2000s which represented actually a really small constituency

01:01:56.740 in the country you didn't know what his background was but he had uh you know the the weird like

01:02:02.140 london underclass gangster chav speak so it it he he wasn't a white guy he was something new

01:02:11.320 that had been created by mass immigration he was also much more exceptional back when this was

01:02:16.420 created whereas now the roadman the london roadman the white roadman who has grown up

01:02:22.900 around and in this culture is way too much of a common thing where we have multi-london ethnic

01:02:28.620 a multi-ethnic london english mle becoming a genuine dialect in london which is spoken by

01:02:36.160 people of many different ethnicities because this is no almost universally low iq yes this is no

01:02:43.500 longer an exceptional thing to be gawked at and laughed at that's just that's just kind of what

01:02:48.020 england looks like in parts of the country these days we still have wiggers yes yeah i saw one in

01:02:54.580 london i was in um some pancrest the other day i was going through some pancrest and i witnessed

01:02:59.440 exactly what harry was just saying there's you know ethnically ambiguous diversity londoner

01:03:03.920 and a white guy both speaking in this patwa okay and i used to see a lot more of them in 2000 when

01:03:11.620 ali g first came out and it was a kind of a bit of a social comment you were probably living in

01:03:15.700 london at the time right yeah to be fair so yeah but i've seen a lot less of them over the years

01:03:20.340 because now we've got actual

01:03:21.880 Africans

01:03:23.820 but that's the point, Ali G's character

01:03:26.240 isn't necessarily white, he is

01:03:28.240 ethnically ambiguous because he comes

01:03:30.000 from this weird milieu that

01:03:31.760 importing millions of people from around the world

01:03:34.120 and then American gangster rap culture

01:03:36.400 had created in the 2000s

01:03:38.420 either way, the big controversy

01:03:40.060 when it was first announced

01:03:42.340 was a bunch of leftists with the

01:03:44.360 criticism essentially of

01:03:45.980 Sacha Baron Cohen

01:03:47.580 is a Jewish Zionist who loves

01:03:50.240 israel and yet would never make fun of israel in the same way so he's not yes it's true uh and

01:03:57.440 therefore you know if he's not making something that's explicitly anti-israeli pro-palestinian

01:04:02.960 in its form of satire then he's just another branch of the establishment making which is

01:04:06.840 totally true he will and a lot of other people were also saying that this was racially insensitive

01:04:11.240 who appear to have just kind of not gotten the joke but i'm not going to defend it on that because

01:04:16.180 i don't really i'm not going to watch it and not a lot of people have because now all of the dust

01:04:21.520 has cleared it's out how did it how has it been received well before we get so that's that's the

01:04:28.360 question that this raised in me when i first heard of this about them right who is this for

01:04:32.900 what is the point of this and so i might actually watch it on prime video days after it's briefed

01:04:38.480 the actual stint just to see what the purpose of it is because um sash baron cohen is a very

01:04:43.640 political man he's very politically motivated everything that he did if you go back and like

01:04:49.820 it was you know in the sort of like late 90s early 2000s where you didn't think in political terms so

01:04:55.340 you'd watch it and just accept oh he's boring oh he's whatever don't worry in in addressing the

01:05:00.360 controversy of oh this isn't racist guys he's made a number of articles and interviews with

01:05:06.940 his special pleading of don't worry guys please i was always a lib shit yeah i i was i was always

01:05:14.240 an awful hateful person yes towards ordinary middle and working class white people i hate

01:05:19.960 them just as much as you do not not just white people though he hates arabs he hates like you

01:05:25.220 know uh people from uh the as extent the russian steppe areas you know like and from uh eastern

01:05:31.880 europe he he hates everyone everywhere that doesn't conform he hates everybody who is um

01:05:39.240 designated target by the liberal elite yeah basically he is the establishment which makes

01:05:45.540 it all the more amusing that he's constantly using these arguments of like oh no satire is about the

01:05:50.820 little guy punching up at the establishment mate you are the establishment come on nobody ever does

01:05:56.060 the second borat film was basically just him making fun of of you know low education american

01:06:02.720 voters yes yes that was that was punching up it was the liberal it was the uh liberal hollywood

01:06:10.640 comedian uh punching up at those dastardly rural white americans this is why like borat and all

01:06:17.860 that was just you look back at you it's like actually this is awful you know it's like anyway

01:06:23.640 the point being like this was obviously going to lose money right because this is something that

01:06:27.320 is wildly anachronistic now yes there's no way that people are resonating with ali g in the year

01:06:34.300 of our lord 2026 well and there's a but they they knew they were going to lose money on this

01:06:39.120 so what is the political point that they are paying for sasha baron cohen to make

01:06:43.060 is what i'm curious about well there's another there's a few other large political satires which

01:06:48.900 have come out recently as well which have completely flopped because it turns out the

01:06:52.900 business model of awful satirical comedy that punches down at the normies in the audience

01:07:01.340 is becoming less and less and less popular because we are more politicized than ever

01:07:05.760 people don't see these things as kind of like apolitical anymore they can see through it

01:07:11.040 either way you know it came out to a complete thud on friday the studio has not released the

01:07:18.400 gross revenue that it's made because it's probably very embarrassing and after releasing on friday

01:07:23.920 it's going to be in the cinema on streaming sorry uh tomorrow i might watch it so that's a very

01:07:30.400 short theatrical run during a recent interview with hollywood reporter which i'll refer to in

01:07:35.140 a bit as well uh cohen addressed the criticisms of his character stating the core joke is that

01:07:40.800 a white moron possibly the stupidest man in the world is interviewing a white expert or high status

01:07:45.940 politician and that white expert or high status politician believes that this imbecile played by

01:07:51.180 me is real and that leads to comedy he explained and in my belief it slightly undermines the power

01:07:57.060 of the establishment that's right me adl sponsored sasha baron cohen has nothing to do with the

01:08:04.540 establishment the the kind of person that he is satirizing was created by the blairite establishment

01:08:11.720 not only the the culture and the sort of ethnic ambiguity of it um but also the tolerance of this

01:08:21.240 kind of low status low standard culture all of that was a product of the british establishment

01:08:26.300 and so him saying i'm teasing the establishment no you you are reinforcing it well the funny thing

01:08:31.680 is as well is that his core joke of uh the white moron being interviewed by the white expert or

01:08:39.280 white high-status politician and everybody gets a laugh at it it worked a lot better ironically

01:08:45.520 enough when the demographics of his audience were a lot whiter because the demographics of

01:08:50.680 his audience used to be a load of white people going how silly oh we can all have a good short

01:08:55.900 look ourselves can't we oh i hate when the local chavs down the council estate come out to the

01:09:01.080 local shops and cause a bit of a ruckus everybody could have a little bit of a laugh about it

01:09:05.140 they all understood the joke. Now the audiences are a lot more diverse and a lot more politically

01:09:10.340 charged. All of a sudden this liberal order and mass migration that you support has made it so

01:09:16.580 you can't really do this anymore because the audiences are either too politically charged

01:09:20.900 to want to get the joke or not intelligent enough to understand it in the first place.

01:09:26.180 Also there's no tolerance for anymore. Things have gone far too far. Like in the beginning

01:09:30.500 the 2000s when we're like 85 you know to 90 white british okay you can make a joke and we can

01:09:36.560 tolerate it because we're secure enough in other ways we're not seeing this as part of a multi-pronged

01:09:41.700 attack on our very identity and existence exactly and now it's like okay well i know what you're

01:09:46.860 you're doing here but um despite all of his pleading has that got him particularly good

01:09:52.640 reviews no no it hasn't even the hollywood reporter itself is saying you know it's got

01:09:57.280 it's got some belly laughs but also it's very boring which is kind of the exact opposite of

01:10:04.620 what you want a satire to be you want it to be constant laughs you want it to be hilarious

01:10:09.720 i remember friends watching borat back when it first came out and it was a laugh a minute sort

01:10:14.340 of thing and there are still clips from it you can see that are actually funny you know like when

01:10:19.100 the rat comes in and they think it's a jew and they're trying to stamp on it and everything

01:10:22.400 there's there's some like really outrageous offensive stuff that's that's actually funny

01:10:26.840 and so he's at the same time as the film has been coming out he's decided to go on a little press

01:10:32.480 tour uh with all of the uh here he is the man himself what a striking figure he cuts eh uh

01:10:41.040 going out and being like doing a special pleading tour please please i hate all of the same people

01:10:47.360 that you do liberal establishment all of the pro-palestinian activists who hate me please i

01:10:53.560 hate all of the white people just as much as you do forgive me watch the film anyway i mean look at

01:10:59.440 this this is the last he's ever going to do no more he's tired of hoodwinking people to expose

01:11:05.480 their prejudices he's even more tired of the death threats that periodically follow i'll

01:11:09.940 find me a river there it is though isn't it like borat was mainly according to this narrative

01:11:16.360 to trick white people who thought that they were having a friendly conversation a good faith

01:11:24.820 conversation a good faith conversation into saying you know maybe they do commit a bit too much crime

01:11:30.700 for my liking actually and then he puts it out puts it out on the world stage and gets everybody

01:11:35.900 to point and laugh at them and then say these are bad people which is totally you know that's the

01:11:41.180 little guy that's the little guy fighting back against evil white people which is a narrative

01:11:47.000 that's so unique these days isn't it some in his camp have speculated it's more of a coordinated

01:11:52.380 attack by pro-palestinians who are critical of baron cohen's past support of israel though he

01:11:58.380 has been quiet about israeli politics and the conflict in gaza in recent years baron cohen

01:12:03.060 it goes on to say in this article is a prominent jew who has sounded the alarm about the surge of

01:12:08.100 anti-semitism on social media reportedly telling tiktok executives in 2023 that what was happening

01:12:14.180 on their platform was quote creating the biggest anti-semitic movement since the nazis

01:12:19.800 doesn't sound at all like anything the establishment would think he did actually

01:12:24.760 make a film about being an israeli secret agent i believe he did which which one was that yeah i

01:12:30.600 know the one you're talking about i didn't watch it it was actually right actually i mean i'm not

01:12:34.480 saying i'm not saying it was total propaganda but the film itself was well made was that grimsby

01:12:40.080 i can't was that no that was the one with mark strong wait was that bruno the one where he's a

01:12:44.240 big gay boy no no no no he was he was actually an israeli secret agent oh well it mentions in here

01:12:51.520 that in in the new ali g film there's an israeli secret agent who's former mossad so i assume

01:12:56.320 maybe he's just doing the same character uh but it goes on to say it's called the spy oh it's just

01:13:01.200 called the spy okay in 2019 it was a mini-series oh okay colton dunn emmy willing any sorry i think

01:13:08.480 i've got the wrong thing oh uh and one of three black writers hired on the film is aware of the

01:13:14.000 i know what's called appropriation claims uh but we knew he where where he would uh what

01:13:18.960 but we knew where we were coming from and we all dealt with it in the movie uh says this writer

01:13:24.160 at the heart of it sasha in the movie wants to defeat evil and hate that's the intention behind

01:13:30.240 it. Goes on to say, as a quote from the interviewer, as you anticipated, it didn't take long for

01:13:37.560 people to start lodging complaints. One criticism which mirrors the plot line in the film is

01:13:40.800 that Ali G uses the character as a cover for enforcing racial stereotypes. What do you

01:13:45.060 say to that? Quote, well, I repeat what I've said for many years, which is that Ali G is

01:13:49.540 a white cultural appropriator who steals from the musical artists that he admires.

01:13:55.400 and uh he um carries on as well to bring up nathan fielder who had nothing to do with

01:14:02.280 anything else but also has a hit film uh which is actually one of the only films to really make any

01:14:07.280 money recently when it hits the box office which was his documentary you can see everything which

01:14:11.920 is interesting because it's about a story that i would think that not many people i don't care

01:14:17.640 about it particularly which is like oh my god somebody committed wire fraud and defrauded

01:14:23.420 investors we need a three hour documentary about this elizabeth holmes was a tech entrepreneur

01:14:29.160 who lied about the product right and just never heard of that before and just continued to lie

01:14:34.500 to the tune of like billions of dollars until it turns out well i don't have a product actually

01:14:38.800 or something like that i've not looked into it in depth i've just heard about it either way

01:14:42.580 i've before this came out there was what appeared to be a huge campaign on social media to put this

01:14:49.740 documentary in my face which seems to have worked and then sasha baron cohen drops nathan fielder

01:14:56.460 into the same uh into the same um sewage that he's been swimming around in recently by mentioning

01:15:03.600 that they've worked together before and are great friends which has got a lot of the same people on

01:15:07.760 the left who are insulting baron cohen uh to start going like nathan fielder's a massive zionist who

01:15:13.360 hates palestinians too well i guess i'm not going to see that film which is quite entertaining for

01:15:19.020 me he also wrote an article for time magazine personally he actually wrote a full essay

01:15:25.260 why satire is no laughing matter can you feel the seriousness i can and i'm not laughing

01:15:31.200 he uh talks about philippe gaulier who introduced him to the satirical archetype of the buffoon

01:15:38.460 in his telling the tradition dated back to 11th century france were societal outcasts

01:15:43.760 because sasha baron cohen is a societal okay maybe i'm laughing yes pretty funny would be let

01:15:49.020 back into their villages once a year to put shows on viciously mocking the ruling class

01:15:53.760 it was the humor of the dispossessed and if there's one thing sasha baron cohen knows about

01:15:59.200 it's his own personal dispossession they were doing something important using biting and at

01:16:05.220 times cruel humor to undermine systemic injustice it does look quite cruel doesn't he look at that

01:16:11.680 expression yes or this is his serious face yeah but i mean i saw the clown face for his entire

01:16:17.560 career so far now he's put on his serious face yeah but if you woke up in a room and you were

01:16:22.520 at this guy's mercy you wouldn't be feeling confident but the irony is of course that this

01:16:27.080 is like what is going on with all of this is the opposite of what he was describing there he he is

01:16:32.060 the establishment he works with the adl the naacp and other establishment friendly bodies who are

01:16:38.400 the establishment um and then to try and silence people who he doesn't like and silence politicians

01:16:44.300 he doesn't like and his films spend huge portions of their run times mocking normal people

01:16:49.440 he hates the proles and this entire pr campaign is him pushing back against the proles for not

01:16:56.780 liking his work anymore yeah i mean it's ridiculous his his movie was funded by amazon mgm studios

01:17:03.420 how the hell do you get a that's a small grassroots operation if i've ever heard one

01:17:07.520 how would you get a film funded by them that was obviously going to lose money as well

01:17:11.700 well i don't think i would how would you manage it like i don't know how you'd go about it you

01:17:17.480 must be so deeply connected to the movie establishment you've probably got the phone

01:17:21.640 numbers of the people you need to call already on stable phone that's wild as he carries on

01:17:27.300 with his nice uh with his nice special pleading here as someone who has opposed bigotry and

01:17:31.920 injustice throughout my life and partnered with civil rights groups as just anybody of the

01:17:37.020 proletariat does i don't recognize myself in the warped portrayals of me that i sometimes see on

01:17:42.600 social media i've always designed my characters and comedy as vehicles to expose prejudice bias

01:17:48.620 and stupidity ali g is a white imbecile a delusional cultural appropriator the joke

01:17:56.380 is on him and the predominantly white male establishment who take him seriously that is

01:18:01.840 an incredible statement right because the the the character of ali g represents someone

01:18:06.420 to whom this world has happened right he is a person who is not privileged in any way shape

01:18:13.940 or form and because of his lack of privilege because the government literally like we'll just

01:18:18.280 dump immigrants in your area he has been forced to adapt to the culture that they have brought

01:18:23.020 and the culture that has risen up as a consequence of this diversity.

01:18:26.820 So, like, San Francisco Aaron Cohen is finding the least privileged white person that he can find,

01:18:31.800 someone whose education is terrible, whose social prospects are terrible,

01:18:35.220 his career prospects, nil, absolutely none,

01:18:38.960 and has to get by being a minority roadman in this community of non-whites.

01:18:46.320 Right, what Harry's saying, and he clearly doesn't just despise, you know, the lower tier of the white society.

01:18:52.360 No, no, of course not.

01:18:53.020 clearly despises all tears of white society yeah of course he does but the point is like he he is

01:18:58.600 he is taking the person with the least privilege yes getting the rest of society to laugh at them

01:19:05.440 yeah i i get that but i mean in in harry's quote is he he's also going after the uh yes he's yeah

01:19:11.400 the other whites but my point is he seems to really hate whites yes of course yes he does

01:19:17.340 but that's the point. And Kazakhstanies

01:19:19.640 and Arabs. Yeah, literally anyone

01:19:21.540 basically. But in doing this, what he's

01:19:23.360 doing is kind of impugning

01:19:25.900 the majority liberal

01:19:27.740 white culture by saying

01:19:29.520 look, actually you will punch

01:19:31.660 down, you will laugh at those people

01:19:33.680 who are the victims of your regime

01:19:35.840 not only did you

01:19:37.760 the existence of

01:19:39.660 the roadman, the Ali G type figure

01:19:41.380 is as a victim of

01:19:43.760 the liberal order and

01:19:45.700 we will get the liberals who impose this order on him

01:19:48.860 to then laugh at their own victim.

01:19:50.840 I don't think it's fair to say that he hates everybody.

01:19:53.700 Obviously he doesn't hate Israel and Jews, obviously.

01:19:55.900 Yeah, because I was going to say...

01:19:57.140 It's the one thing he doesn't hate.

01:19:58.140 That film he made about being a spy for Israel,

01:20:01.360 he depicted the Israelis as very, very positive.

01:20:04.940 Well, to be fair, in the same article he also points out

01:20:08.260 that he made a character called Aaron Morad,

01:20:10.980 a stereotype of a tough guy Israeli commando

01:20:14.340 to expose islamophobia and the ludicrous things people will do when they're gripped by an

01:20:20.160 irrational fear of quote the other so you could also just broadly say that whatever will tick the

01:20:26.980 box of the the the liberal elite establishment and their preferences he's for it yes that's that's

01:20:33.380 all he is he is just kind of uh he's the animus of the elite put into a satirical package to make

01:20:39.460 fun of anyone and everyone although at the same time you know you're putting that through the

01:20:44.680 israeli lens of the israeli commando when you're talking about islamophobia i'm sure he would

01:20:49.160 paint the average working class white british man with that same brush as well but sorry just

01:20:55.280 quick thing like the stereotype of a tough guy israeli commando quote i've been in 14 terror

01:21:00.240 attacks that's also a condemnation of the muslims like and it's also actually you can say that it's

01:21:08.480 it's a parody of that guy but oh no i survived 14 terror attacks is that weak is that lobes anyway

01:21:14.940 either way this kind of sneering attempt at satire it really isn't going over as well anymore

01:21:23.560 as far as i can tell people are sick of it and they can see through it one of the more recent

01:21:27.940 examples was aaron sorkin's social reckoning a sequel to the social network which took a

01:21:34.500 pro-censorship line regarding Mark Zuckerberg's role in promoting harmful narratives on Facebook

01:21:41.820 back during the initial Trump election in 2016, which bombed. Ironically, I assume that

01:21:48.340 Sacha Baron Cohen would have been a big fan of this film as well, given that he made literally

01:21:52.060 the same arguments to the ADL that Facebook should be censored because it's letting people

01:21:57.620 know what Trump is about, therefore it's Nazism. People saw the trailers for that and saw literally

01:22:03.980 videos in the trailers of bill burr soyjacking saying why aren't you censoring more people

01:22:10.320 with fake mark zuckerberg going like i just let them have the information and they can do what

01:22:15.600 they want of course the film is falling on bill burr's side in that but they saw that and go

01:22:19.600 do i want a two hour lecture on why i'm a terrible person for not wanting facebook censored more

01:22:27.600 no no i'm not going to go and watch that one of the most spectacular flops of the year

01:22:33.820 has been a kind of eco satire called digger i saw the trailer for that in the cinema and the

01:22:42.000 trailer looked really good actually i thought oh i'll watch that and then before it came out i

01:22:47.560 found out it's a it's a two and a half hour lecture about climate change right so that's

01:22:51.660 even more than that actually one it's lost 245 million dollars impressive uh it's by the same

01:22:58.080 guy who directed the revenant which was actually a big success 10 years ago but just like listen

01:23:04.200 listen to this so in the article they mentioned that the film is about a boorish billionaire

01:23:08.460 magnate billionaire oil magnate who's drilling in the arctic arctic triggers eco catastrophe so

01:23:15.380 it's just an it sounds initially like another annoying environmentalist film that's just meant

01:23:20.280 to preach at you but i got a little summary of the film and it's even worse and it sounds like

01:23:25.320 i would throw myself out of the window watching this film so digger is a 2026 eco-satirical

01:23:32.920 black comedy starring tom cruise's digger rockwell a wealthy oil tycoon whose irresponsible drilling

01:23:38.820 causes a massive glacier to break off in greenland threatening a global environmental catastrophe

01:23:44.380 initially presented as a doomsday thriller about rockwell's frantic mission to save the world

01:23:49.100 the film reveals a major twist the narrative is actually a play titled fossil fools spoilers for

01:23:55.980 digger not that you'd have seen it anyway performed by an actor named curtis markson

01:24:00.140 also played by crews to satirize a disaster that occurred decades prior the film operates on two

01:24:06.840 levels alternating between the fictional events of the play and the real life struggles of the

01:24:10.260 cast and crew serving as a meta commentary on the role of art satire and storytelling

01:24:15.300 in the face of existential crises exploring how powerful figures manipulate narratives to control

01:24:21.940 public perception that does sound dreary so it's not just an eco satire it is a pretentious

01:24:28.900 fart sniffing eco satire of the wankiest proportions that's really interesting because

01:24:35.700 i saw the film being advertised and i couldn't make out what the film was about i had no idea

01:24:40.800 it was about um it's about everything and nothing but i had no idea i had no idea the trailer did

01:24:47.500 conceal it because the trailer looked good but there was another film that came out a few years

01:24:50.920 ago like don't look up or something with matt damon uh this film was inspired by that one

01:24:55.640 yeah and and i watched not i watched that when it came out on streaming and the problem is is is

01:25:01.640 like with these films is they're quite well done they're people who know their trade but it kept

01:25:06.280 pulling you out of it to make these really obvious political point which was basically

01:25:10.220 Leonardo DiCaprio looked straight into the camera soy crying going like the world is literally going

01:25:16.640 to end like that yeah and it just it just pulls you out of it and it just reminds you these people

01:25:22.120 are lecturing you and I can't I can't remember if I even finished it in the end but again as soon as

01:25:26.660 I found out with this which which like I say the trailer did look fun as soon as I found out it was

01:25:31.400 just a climate change lecture it was like I'm just not wasting my time even on streaming for that

01:25:35.460 yeah and it's funny because the problem of just getting audiences to watch anything in the first

01:25:40.360 place is just like a problem because um it turns out when you're fighting for people's attention

01:25:47.060 constantly um and they have a little distraction box in their pocket all the time and you're

01:25:53.100 feeding them shit they'll probably just look at the distraction box instead uh and so to uh digger

01:26:00.720 and sasha baron cohen and social reckoning and any other of that style of preachy satire

01:26:08.180 punching down at the audience i say i'm glad you flopped please continue to flop and please can

01:26:13.720 can hollywood just sink into the sea by now please

01:26:17.220 all right uh harry when are you getting the psychopaths comics corner firaz carl bow on for

01:26:24.940 that i've not watched psychopaths uh i'll have to look into it uh microsoft cutting it's working

01:26:30.960 for a quarter does not give me confidence in them also read my previous post that was from

01:26:36.660 logan pine i think i've heard that microsoft is looking to what cut a cut a 60 000 jobs from its

01:26:42.140 workers for AI adoption.

01:26:46.280 Yeah, streaming.

01:26:46.980 Right, okay.

01:26:50.940 G'day, gents.

01:26:52.860 Another Commonwealth Chronicles video is incoming.

01:26:57.580 I'll upload a shorter version as a video comment.

01:27:01.860 Still working on my books, still writing as much as I can,

01:27:06.520 even though I've got a little one to help look after.

01:27:12.140 Go and check out my website. I've had it revamped, and it is amazing.

01:27:22.840 Wholesome. Very wholesome. Thank you.

01:27:25.640 Having a little one is all the more reason to do the work.

01:27:28.880 Yes.

01:27:30.480 I'm going to make a prediction.

01:27:32.360 When the last boomer dies, it's going to be illegal to put job postings online.

01:27:36.580 You have to apply in person.

01:27:37.720 on top of this as well

01:27:39.620 when the last boomer who cares about it dies

01:27:41.980 no one in politics

01:27:43.660 is ever going to care about Israel ever again

01:27:45.940 in terms of just every

01:27:47.660 Middle Eastern war

01:27:48.560 they'll just be told well desert problems

01:27:51.500 require desert solutions and you're on your own

01:27:53.620 sorry everyone's in for themselves

01:27:55.940 we're not interested

01:27:56.860 and then the world will get better

01:27:59.460 thank you for that

01:28:05.620 any further

01:28:06.980 Yeah, yeah, I've got some comments.

01:28:08.480 Richard says,

01:28:09.440 Yeah, exactly.

01:28:25.740 Doesn't Burnham know that the moment Russian boots touch our soil,

01:28:29.720 they'll become British soldiers and will be army doctors and engineers?

01:28:32.980 Yeah, exactly.

01:28:33.960 That's exactly what Putin's banking on.

01:28:35.820 Yeah, Justin says,

01:28:36.980 It struck me that I've heard in three years that is this for self-regulating civil war-type policing.

01:28:44.400 Yeah, it's really weird, isn't it? It's really weird.

01:28:47.640 EconomicZone17 says,

01:28:48.600 Yeah, I know, it's mental.

01:28:57.920 Yeah, the English leaders bang the drum about Russia as a diversion.

01:29:03.880 I suspect they're not preparing for war against Russia

01:29:06.000 but actually preparing for war against America

01:29:07.840 I don't know that

01:29:09.800 I suspect a lot of this

01:29:12.340 is to do with a decoupling from America

01:29:14.300 yeah

01:29:14.800 and I think they're just getting paranoid

01:29:17.780 that they can't protect themselves basically

01:29:19.760 from Russia

01:29:20.880 the right kind of iodine tablets

01:29:24.260 can also make water safe to drink

01:29:26.020 says Arizona Desert Rat, interesting

01:29:27.600 Binary says even when

01:29:29.880 we win the vote they just ignore it, Brexit

01:29:32.040 it dan uh if voting could change anything it would be illegal fair hm butter knife permit

01:29:38.840 registry says a ballot box in the leftist country typically has six seven point six two times three

01:29:44.320 nine written on the side uh i assume that's a bullet yes measurement um omar says dystopian

01:29:51.180 novels tend to undershoot the reality because that would be far more believable i'm feeling

01:29:55.740 that the rudyard kipling poem tommy describes the situation but we're not even going to get

01:29:59.600 the special train extra rations or modicum of respect they're expecting us to die because that's

01:30:04.020 supposedly all patriotism amounts to them yeah they're going to be calling you a racist as they

01:30:08.040 send you into the guns by the way they're going to be called either way you deserve this yeah

01:30:12.380 how dare you um sam says harry if you want to read a funny article from the hollywood reporter

01:30:20.440 search for their article entitled how wicker became the horniest most tender film of the year

01:30:25.320 oh i got i saw the advertisements for that i was in manchester recently and all of them all of the

01:30:30.380 advertisements on all of the buses for this wicker film have you seen have you seen about it it's the

01:30:34.960 most woman film ever um it's i don't know if it is it's a it's a romance about a woman who falls

01:30:41.560 in love with a magical wicker man oh yeah um and i i can only assume that he's also an abusive

01:30:48.560 billionaire at the same time so that that that is that is pretty damn woman coded but i i actually

01:30:55.240 i actually know of a film and tried to watch a film there was even more woman coded than this

01:30:59.520 right go on the film itself was literally called women talking oh i've heard of this and it's it's

01:31:06.040 two hours of women talking i actually just i no no i i actually got through the whole thing it's

01:31:11.740 the mirror universe i might have done right it's the mirror universe version of master and commander

01:31:15.520 yes yes exactly it's a bizarro world version of master commander i put it on out of curiosity

01:31:22.040 to see and i can't remember a single thing it was about it just went straight into

01:31:26.480 like i remember leaving on and just i must have been painting or playing video games or something

01:31:34.480 and i have got no memories of this film whatsoever but i know i put it on so it did its job it did

01:31:40.440 yeah yep yeah and my wife is correct i do turn off when she starts telling me things she's not

01:31:46.080 wrong there's a certain tone of voice that i immediately go boom off that's that's two hours

01:31:52.600 of this entire film yeah and it's literally called women talking and i've actually told my wife

01:31:56.700 explicitly that if you've got something important you have to tell me don't do it in that tone of

01:32:01.060 voice because that's the tone of voice that just makes it just evaporate yeah can't use it right

01:32:05.820 Okay, so I'm just looking it up, right?

01:32:07.320 So, women talking centres on women in a secluded religious colony

01:32:11.000 who must decide whether to do nothing, stay and fight, or leave

01:32:14.240 after a shocking betrayal shatters their community.

01:32:16.660 I have no idea.

01:32:17.940 I honestly got no idea.

01:32:20.360 But I did watch it.

01:32:24.900 With that extraordinary use of your time.

01:32:28.300 Yeah.

01:32:28.900 You're always complaining about how busy you are.

01:32:31.360 You spent two hours watching women talk.

01:32:33.380 Well, I didn't watch it.

01:32:34.320 What do you think he's spending all his time on?

01:32:38.120 I thought it might be interesting.

01:32:39.420 Maybe I'll do a video about it,

01:32:40.420 but I don't remember anything about it at all.

01:32:43.020 Well, there you go.

01:32:44.120 Well, thank you for turning up and listening to us talk.

01:32:47.880 And if you are not currently a subscriber, please do that.

01:32:51.100 Goodbye.

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - October 27, 2026

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1536

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