The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters

00:00:00.260 Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for the 5th of September and I'm joined by Harry and also Calvin Robinson for your final podcast appearance before you move to America.

00:00:12.380 The last one before I flee. Yes, I am moving to West Michigan in America and I'm going to go and join the horde of people still fighting for freedom out there.

00:00:24.160 But you're still going to be doing your show?

00:00:25.700 Still have my Common Sense Crusade 3pm every Thursday only on LotusEaters.com.

00:00:30.000 You just won't be able to be persecuted by the British state.

00:00:32.980 And or stabbed by a wild Mohammedan. 0.95

00:00:34.960 Exactly. I'm kind of jealous to be honest. 0.66

00:00:38.200 I think I'll be freer to say what I need to say. I'll have my First and Second Amendment to back me up.

00:00:43.140 Exactly.

00:00:43.540 And anything that you say on the website, only we can be prosecuted for.

00:00:47.760 That's true, yeah.

00:00:48.440 That's quite handy actually.

00:00:50.260 Oh no, he hadn't thought that far ahead yet, had he? No.

00:00:52.820 So if you take a sudden dislike to us, you can really throw us under the bus.

00:00:57.540 Twist the knife. 0.60

00:00:58.420 I would never.

00:01:00.380 Also, we've got a fly in the office again, in the studio.

00:01:03.740 So if we at any point look like we're trying to grab at demonic spirits, while there are some around, it's a fly.

00:01:09.820 It's mainly a fly.

00:01:10.860 Josh, do not shock your nose. 0.97

00:01:13.420 I am going to miss this though, coming to the studio with you crazy people. 0.98

00:01:16.840 There's something mad going on around here.

00:01:19.160 We try to be sensible, we try to be calm, we just can't.

00:01:22.940 They appear calm on camera, they're not calm at all in real life.

00:01:25.600 We're actually crazy, that is true.

00:01:27.180 But today we are talking about Winston Churchill and his legacy.

00:01:32.580 Ledge.

00:01:33.540 I have some personal gripes.

00:01:36.000 And I'm going to talk about Europe needing to stand up for itself.

00:01:40.380 And Harry is going to...

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00:02:02.800 I thanked you on Monday, you're getting double thanks.

00:02:04.300 Was it Monday?

00:02:05.120 It was, yeah.

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00:02:35.740 Now Churchill, Winston Churchill, is clearly the greatest British hero of all time.

00:02:42.980 And I want to get into why. 0.96

00:02:44.640 He is the British bulldog.

00:02:46.260 His name is all over social media this week for reasons pertaining to Tucker Carlson,

00:02:53.200 who had an interview that a lot of people disliked.

00:02:55.940 But I think his interview is important because he kind of, he'll interview anybody.

00:02:59.100 And that's how journalism used to be.

00:03:00.400 You don't have to agree with the people you're interviewing.

00:03:02.100 Yes, he does just sit there and nod through quite a lot of it.

00:03:04.300 But I'm not here to critique his interviewing style.

00:03:07.280 I think it's important that we're able to have a conversation.

00:03:09.580 Otherwise, we enter the realm of censorship and mainstream media.

00:03:13.520 So his independent journalism is great.

00:03:14.960 However, someone he interviewed recently stepped on the path of, maybe Hitler was misunderstood.

00:03:22.580 Maybe we didn't win World War II. 0.77

00:03:24.600 And maybe Churchill was the bad guy all along.

00:03:26.600 Some people will say that's quite a dangerous path to go down.

00:03:30.740 I think it's a mistaken path to go down.

00:03:32.560 Because when we destroy our heroes, what do we have left but the villains?

00:03:36.340 And so I'd like to go into why Winston Churchill is an imperfect and flawed national hero, if not a global hero.

00:03:43.400 If I can add something to begin with, I have not watched the full interview.

00:03:48.840 The interview that Tucker Carlson conducted was with a historian called Daryl Cooper, I believe his surname is, who goes under the handle of Martyr Made.

00:03:56.420 He has a podcast, which is very popular, where he speaks about history.

00:03:59.620 For instance, he's spoken at length about the Israel-Palestine conflict.

00:04:03.980 I think that's his most popular series. 0.72

00:04:05.680 It's something ridiculous, like a 26-hour long history.

00:04:09.980 So it's almost like a novel length, if you were to listen to an audio book.

00:04:14.460 The clips that I have seen of it, it does not appear that Daryl is trying to lean into Hitler-Apologia.

00:04:23.200 Especially regarding the Eastern Front, which I've seen a lot of people acting as though he was saying that nothing bad ever happened over there.

00:04:31.340 The clips that I have seen seem to have been Daryl saying that most of, a lot of the hardships that went on over there,

00:04:38.080 a lot of the suffering that went on, was as a result of a lack of forward planning and resources allocated to that area of the European conflict.

00:04:47.680 And he has not been saying that that immediately means that there is no culpability to Hitler or any of the other German command.

00:04:54.240 And people have had this reaction, which I think has been absolutely hysterical, of trying to point to him and say that he was apologizing for the Holocaust,

00:05:02.880 that he was saying Hitler never did anything wrong.

00:05:04.800 Whereas for me, it seems that he's just trying to portray a slightly more, I wouldn't even say nuanced,

00:05:11.000 I would say full historical take of the Second World War.

00:05:14.580 Now, when it comes to things like saying that Churchill was an outright villain,

00:05:18.980 he, I believe, has said that that's basically just hyperbole on his own side.

00:05:23.000 Because to get such takes listened to in the first place, and probably to be able to speak to somebody like Tucker Carlson,

00:05:29.420 you do need to engage in a bit of the old rhetoric so that you can have your voice amplified and heard.

00:05:34.420 But I do think that the reaction from many conservatives in the center-right has been massively overblown

00:05:41.260 and very disingenuous in how it's been portraying what Daryl was saying.

00:05:45.200 Because Daryl was not trying to say to Tucker, listen, Hitler was the good guy. 0.97

00:05:50.140 That is not what he was saying at all.

00:05:51.720 The conversation isn't the conversation.

00:05:53.300 The conversation that started on Tucker has evolved into something else, which it always does.

00:05:57.120 The center-right has reacted to it in a way that I'm probably going to do and say, no, he was clearly a hero.

00:06:03.120 And I think the far-right have reacted in a way that they're saying, well, Churchill lost as Europe.

00:06:08.420 And he was the downfall of what we know and love.

00:06:12.620 So I think...

00:06:13.200 I was going to say that.

00:06:14.920 Really?

00:06:16.480 I don't think it's quite so simple.

00:06:19.300 There is always nuance to these things.

00:06:21.500 There is always nuance to these things.

00:06:22.220 Because I think that since the Second World War, especially since the time of large Hollywood films,

00:06:29.040 it has been turned into a Disney-Marvel cartoon narrative

00:06:33.100 that people are really afraid to try to even look into it.

00:06:37.640 Because this is not something...

00:06:38.380 I wouldn't agree with that.

00:06:39.100 I would say since Brexit, we've had doubling down on Churchill.

00:06:42.960 The true Churchill.

00:06:43.980 And how he was actually a racist. 0.88

00:06:45.280 And how he actually killed a million Indians. 0.80

00:06:46.640 Yeah, of course, there's all of that.

00:06:48.220 I think it's flipped around.

00:06:48.880 Well, I do think that people ignore that the conflict happened within a broader geopolitical context. 0.94

00:06:55.520 Where it wasn't just as simple as Hitler was a bad guy who wanted to kill Jews

00:07:00.060 and we went into Europe to save all of them.

00:07:02.120 There was a lot of behind-the-scenes political maneuvering going on.

00:07:05.400 Particularly, and I think that this is one of, for me, one of Churchill's big mistakes.

00:07:10.660 Particularly with FDR, whose cabinet, whose administration was full of communist infiltrators 0.61

00:07:17.700 who are working behind the scenes for the Soviet Union.

00:07:20.100 who were able to deftly maneuver the situation to be able to leave at the end of World War II

00:07:26.360 half of Europe, the Eastern Front, under Stalin's Soviet Union.

00:07:30.880 So I think there is a discussion to be had there.

00:07:35.080 I think it's most often papered over.

00:07:37.660 Especially the fact, again, that there was a lot of communist infiltration into FDR.

00:07:42.560 And FDR, when he entered the war after Pearl Harbor,

00:07:45.860 really seems to have taken command of most of the effort on the Western Front.

00:07:50.100 Absolutely.

00:07:50.520 And to clarify what I said, I think that all of Europe lost in World War II.

00:07:56.360 No one really won from what happened.

00:07:58.620 Well, Stalin won. 0.56

00:08:00.980 Well.

00:08:01.540 Not in the end.

00:08:02.320 Well, not in the end, but for his own lifetime.

00:08:03.880 But America certainly did.

00:08:05.680 Yeah, America.

00:08:06.660 You know, America was the only country that really came out of it successful.

00:08:10.820 Which raises the question, did we really win?

00:08:12.340 Of course, the answer is no, but that doesn't mean that the Nazis won. 0.75

00:08:15.140 Or that we should have lost to the Nazis. 0.85

00:08:16.780 Yeah, well, my position is that most of the leaders involved, FDR, Churchill, and Adolf, were all bad people.

00:08:27.000 But we're cutting you off before you've got to.

00:08:29.620 No, it's fine.

00:08:30.160 There's going to be something else to say.

00:08:31.160 I do not believe Churchill was a bad person.

00:08:33.140 I do think categorically Hitler was a bad person. 0.92

00:08:35.880 I do think there is a bit of, there is nuance in between, but there's also on the extremities.

00:08:39.840 And I think Hitler was on the extremity of that. 0.91

00:08:41.100 But let's start with Churchill's background.

00:08:44.180 So before World War II, obviously before World War I, there was the Boer War.

00:08:49.060 And he was a kind of a military reporter.

00:08:52.360 He was out there writing about events.

00:08:54.380 But he got caught up in it.

00:08:55.480 And he got caught in a prison of war camp.

00:08:57.680 And he escaped through the swamps, through the mines, through the trenches, and kind of got out.

00:09:01.980 So he had, before he'd even fought in a war, he'd had that kind of wartime experience that most people today would not have any kind of relation to.

00:09:11.020 We wouldn't be able to relate to that kind of trauma.

00:09:14.160 And so he was shaped by it before it began.

00:09:16.460 So when World War I came up, he could have chosen to go, actually, I'm going to find a way out of this.

00:09:21.040 But straight away, he's like, I want to jump in.

00:09:22.880 And he was in the infantry.

00:09:24.280 He was on the front lines, in the trenches, in World War I, in the hardships and dangers amongst everyone else.

00:09:29.820 Bear in mind, this is someone who was born in Blenheim Castle.

00:09:32.180 This is a palace.

00:09:33.080 This is someone who is part of the establishment, part of the elite.

00:09:35.960 Did not have to contribute in the way that he did, but chose to.

00:09:39.720 I wasn't aware of this.

00:09:40.620 I thought he was just the first lord of the admiralty at the time.

00:09:43.860 In World War I?

00:09:44.700 In the First World War, yes.

00:09:45.880 No, he went to the front lines.

00:09:47.160 Yeah, he went to the Western Front.

00:09:48.800 Oh, in what capacity?

00:09:49.780 Was he a soldier?

00:09:50.960 He was, I believe he was infantryman, wasn't he?

00:09:53.980 Again, I thought he was already part of the cabinet government and was first lord of the admiral.

00:09:58.680 He did fight his way up in the 20s, but I think prior to that he was out there himself.

00:10:03.780 Well, I certainly respect him getting stuck in.

00:10:07.240 Was it?

00:10:08.500 Yes, because by the time of the First World War, he was already first lord of the admiralty.

00:10:13.080 And one of the things that led to Germany's ultimate defeat was that there was a starvation blockade across the North Sea,

00:10:19.920 preventing them from getting food and rations.

00:10:21.640 And that was initiated, I think, either in 1914 or 1915 by Churchill.

00:10:28.000 Right, I might be crossing my lines there, so I'll accept that correction.

00:10:31.100 So let's start off with BBC's perspective on who Churchill was,

00:10:34.440 because if you want a neutral perspective, you head to the BBC, don't you?

00:10:38.720 Why was Churchill important?

00:10:40.020 So before World War II started in 1939, Hitler was one of the few people warning, 0.85

00:10:46.180 sorry, Churchill was one of the few people warning about Hitler and the rise of the Nazis in Germany.

00:10:50.360 Why is this important?

00:10:51.400 Well, because most of our establishment, most of our politicians at the time,

00:10:54.420 were talking of peace, peace, peace, and the language of appeasement.

00:10:58.020 The controversial side of this argument from the BBC is that, here we go,

00:11:06.060 he was believed, it was believed that he, that Churchill believed that some races and some countries were naturally superior to others.

00:11:14.700 This is today seen as anathema, but up until very recently was kind of seen as common sense.

00:11:22.360 But it's a conversation you're no longer allowed to have.

00:11:24.680 Is it possible that some countries are superior to others?

00:11:28.000 Is it possible that some races are superior to others?

00:11:30.140 In what regard? In what aspect?

00:11:31.380 Well, I would say Kenyans are probably better at running than, say, for example, the Chinese. 1.00

00:11:35.920 The Chinese are less smelly because they don't have that body odor instinct that the Indians have. 1.00

00:11:40.340 There are different elements to different races that we are distinctive.

00:11:43.980 But again, it's post-World War II and post-eugenics.

00:11:46.920 It's a conversation we're no longer allowed to have for good reason.

00:11:49.200 Do you want to zap that?

00:11:49.800 There's the fly. We found it. There's the fly.

00:11:52.020 It's right there. It's right above Calvin. Come on.

00:11:53.940 Oh, we're so close.

00:11:56.400 Feeble.

00:11:57.720 I was quick as I could be.

00:11:59.640 Well, what you're saying there, though, to carry on that point that you're making,

00:12:02.960 well, this was during the time of empire and in the 1930s prior to the dissolution of it.

00:12:08.220 This was very close to the height of empire in terms of the actual sheer amount of land

00:12:14.240 that we were in control of, the nations that we were in control of.

00:12:17.360 So I think if you're living in that situation, especially if you're a member of the government

00:12:23.360 or certainly a member of the media as he was during his wilderness years when he was a journalist,

00:12:27.540 it's perfectly understandable for you to go, well, listen, we've colonized more of the world

00:12:33.240 than anybody else has ever been able to.

00:12:35.020 So we control most of the world and we do a damn fine job at doing it.

00:12:40.720 So I think it's understandable why in that situation you would go, yeah, maybe we're

00:12:44.940 better than most other people, at least at doing this.

00:12:47.780 Which links into what he said in 1937 when he said he admits, for instance, that a great

00:12:53.520 wrong was done to the Red Indians of America and the black people of Australia, but he 0.95

00:12:57.940 doesn't admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, 0.76

00:13:02.200 a higher grade race, a more worldly, wise race, to put it that way, has come in and taken 0.99

00:13:07.540 their place.

00:13:07.900 Which actually speaks of the very popular meme that goes around that says, you know, we should

00:13:13.920 not apologize for being stronger or we shouldn't apologize for you guys being so weak that

00:13:17.660 you were conquered by another empire.

00:13:20.460 Well, if the roles were reversed, we wouldn't be getting an apology, would we?

00:13:23.520 And also these days you don't learn about what it was that we came across, especially

00:13:27.000 when we got to somewhere like Australia where the aboriginals, the way it's sensitive to

00:13:32.480 modern ideas of how you should treat women.

00:13:35.380 The aboriginals, when we first got there, we were shocked by the way that they treated their 1.00

00:13:39.920 women, for instance. 1.00

00:13:40.840 They couldn't find a single woman of any of the aboriginal tribes who wasn't absolutely 0.98

00:13:45.240 covered in scars because their husbands or the men of the tribes were absolutely brutalizing

00:13:50.380 them with the primitive axes that they had because they would just, any infraction from

00:13:55.260 the women, they would beat them, they would stab them, awful, awful things. 1.00

00:13:59.640 So yes, we get to a very, very primitive society like that where they've not developed technology

00:14:05.360 beyond maybe a Stone Age capacity.

00:14:07.540 And we get there, we say, no, you don't do that.

00:14:10.900 We're going to put civilization on this land.

00:14:12.880 And of course, I think we have every right to say that we improved Australia with our

00:14:17.620 presence.

00:14:18.260 Yes.

00:14:18.560 And that's on a global scale.

00:14:20.580 He was very against Indian self-rule as well.

00:14:23.200 And history has proven him right in that when the British were invited into India, India 0.85

00:14:27.280 was a successful country, a successful part of the empire.

00:14:30.140 And now look at India post-Britain. 0.77

00:14:32.380 It's dire.

00:14:33.720 It's an absolute mess.

00:14:35.160 And I think if you ask most Indian people today, I think they probably have preferred to

00:14:38.620 remain under British rule.

00:14:40.100 But we think-

00:14:40.440 Great example is South Africa as well.

00:14:42.880 Well, which is what sparked the first war that he was involved in, that fight there.

00:14:48.180 But the British empire spread more good, including civilization around the world.

00:14:52.440 And it's another conversation that people aren't able to have today without painting

00:14:55.560 people like Churchill as villains for wanting to spread charity, hospitals, schools, the Christian

00:15:00.840 faith, the English language, roads, infrastructure, as well as just civility and etiquette and good

00:15:06.940 manners.

00:15:07.200 So I think overall, that was a good argument that he was making, but perhaps not in language

00:15:13.020 that we'd make in today.

00:15:14.140 But that goes with the change of the times.

00:15:16.700 Now moving over to the British government's perspective of Churchill, which I find interesting

00:15:20.000 that they actually have one up.

00:15:22.200 Yeah, I didn't know this existed, to be fair.

00:15:24.120 So their argument is that Gallipoli was a mistake, and he acknowledges that it was a mistake.

00:15:31.780 He learned from that mistake, and because he was heavily criticized for the error of that

00:15:36.100 campaign, he resigned from his position in government, which is quite a rarity these days,

00:15:40.600 but something that people used to do.

00:15:41.860 And therefore traveled to the Western Front himself.

00:15:45.680 And I think, oh, there we go.

00:15:47.820 This kind of nobility is something that I would love to see in our politicians today.

00:15:53.380 If you make a mistake, look, Tony Blair, the Iraq War, send him to Iraq.

00:15:57.800 Go to the front line yourselves, mate.

00:15:59.760 If you and your henchmen think it's a good idea.

00:16:04.280 But of course, they wouldn't even resign, never mind go to the Western Front.

00:16:06.640 I'd like to see modern politicians resign and go to fight in Ukraine.

00:16:10.220 Yeah.

00:16:10.520 They're willing to send all of our weapons over there.

00:16:13.180 Boris Johnson, get over to the Ukraine.

00:16:14.500 Yeah, what are you doing, Boris?

00:16:15.800 Get in the trenches.

00:16:16.640 I've seen him with his body armor on in the Ukraine, but I haven't seen him on the front lines.

00:16:21.500 And so, British policy during World War II was to try everything, but to try it on a scale where...

00:16:29.280 I'm so sorry, it's so distracting.

00:16:32.680 It's going away again.

00:16:33.800 I think it's flying above our lights.

00:16:35.820 Apologies, everybody.

00:16:37.120 World War II, we tried everything, but on a scale where we were able to fail.

00:16:40.280 And I think that's a sign of great leadership in that, look at the campaigns, like the SOE that failed, Special Operations Executives.

00:16:48.060 So, set Europe ablaze, wasn't very successful.

00:16:50.720 But Bletchley Park was massively successful.

00:16:53.400 So, he had these little kind of units.

00:16:55.860 And he said, give that a go, give that a go.

00:16:57.240 Whatever works, we doubled down on.

00:16:58.880 Well, we didn't put all our eggs in one basket.

00:17:00.680 Exactly.

00:17:01.140 But what didn't work, he was able to say, no, that's a failure.

00:17:03.660 And I think, again, many modern politicians would say, well, they would double down on their own initiatives, whether they failed or not.

00:17:10.420 And so, that's a sign of a change in the style of politics that we've got today.

00:17:15.300 My mouse is broken, by the way, it's something.

00:17:17.880 So, Churchill became synonymous with successful campaigns like Dunkirk, like the Battle of Britain.

00:17:23.720 And this is just chaos today.

00:17:26.700 And the Blitz spirit.

00:17:29.540 Just ignore it.

00:17:30.420 Pretend it's not there.

00:17:32.360 Just imagine we're in India.

00:17:34.040 His warnings against the appeasement of Nazi Germany were proven correct when the Second World War, of course, broke out. 0.95

00:17:39.500 But he was warning about this, obviously, in 1939, before the war broke out.

00:17:45.580 So, in 1940, he gets voted in because he's one of the few people that says, this is wrong, Hitler's wrong, this is bad.

00:17:50.340 And Chamberlain and everyone else are like, well, let's settle, let's settle.

00:17:54.200 Oh, thank you.

00:17:54.720 I got it.

00:17:56.160 Oh.

00:17:56.740 Let's go to our...

00:17:58.300 There we go.

00:17:58.740 I've got it.

00:17:59.260 It should be working.

00:18:01.740 Excellent.

00:18:02.780 There we go.

00:18:07.540 So, of course, he was one of the greatest orators we've ever had, not just statesmen.

00:18:11.840 So, statesmen, in terms of getting things done, making the country work, he managed to get the civil service to be efficient.

00:18:20.700 Which, again, is something I think we're lacking from modern politicians.

00:18:24.740 He had this sense of urgency.

00:18:27.360 Telephone switchboards quadrupled their efficiency.

00:18:30.060 The chief of staff and the joint planning staff were in almost constant sessions.

00:18:33.600 Like, he managed to change what didn't work under Chamberlain, where everyone just thought, you know, wartime is the same as peacetime.

00:18:38.740 And managed to make an attitude that I think only Boris Johnson could accomplish in modern terms of getting everyone to realize that there is a national state of emergency.

00:18:47.680 And so, he did not permit an attitude of defeatism, nor would he entertain talk of reasonable terms with Adolf Hitler.

00:18:58.580 But his famous speech, or one of his most famous speeches, in 1940, was,

00:19:03.280 Going back to an age of Britain, never ever shall be slaves. 0.76

00:19:28.260 It was going back to Royal Britannia, going back to people actually believing in patriotism.

00:19:32.420 We shall defend our island.

00:19:34.040 That one part of that sentence, I would love to see any of our politicians say publicly these days when we're being invaded every single day.

00:19:41.620 Did you guys cover Callum Smiles, by the way?

00:19:43.920 Oh, him stopping the migrant boat. 0.88

00:19:46.300 No, we haven't actually.

00:19:47.500 I was waiting until there were some more examples, and I was going to put it into one big segment.

00:19:53.760 I was not going to go off on a tangent, but I just think it's fantastic that he's gone out there in France and pointed out the smugglers and said, look, stop them.

00:19:59.440 And the police have actually managed to stop them.

00:20:01.180 I think it shows that if there is the will to do it, it can be done.

00:20:04.040 And our politicians clearly don't have the political will.

00:20:06.400 And we're frozen again, by the way, Samson.

00:20:08.020 Sorry about this.

00:20:09.140 I have a fiddle with the thing here.

00:20:10.900 I will say, I do think that Chamberlain is somewhat unfairly maligned for the Munich decision.

00:20:18.980 Would you like some context regarding that?

00:20:23.060 Well, there's an excellent, wonderful compilation of essays edited by a man called Harry Elmer Barnes called Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace,

00:20:31.740 which looks more at the American side of the foreign policy during FDR's time.

00:20:37.380 And in that is an essay by Frederick R. Sanborn called Roosevelt is Frustrated in Europe,

00:20:43.600 which discusses how around the time of the Munich conference, around late September 1938,

00:20:48.900 leading up to the Munich conference and the Czechoslovakia crisis as it was going on.

00:20:54.460 In fact, Britain and France had built up enough armaments or at least had enough available to them at the time that they were thinking about,

00:21:03.680 in fact, planning on potentially attacking Germany over the Czechoslovakian crisis.

00:21:09.260 And Germany itself, the public were devoid of enthusiasm for any sort of conflict that was likely to spring up because of all of this.

00:21:17.020 And the general staff as well, all of Hitler's generals, were not happy with it and were in fact planning a putsch against Hitler at the time.

00:21:25.200 And it was the intervention of Franklin Roosevelt coming to the Allies' side and saying,

00:21:31.340 well, we can work all of this out, we can get a peace deal with them that led to them actually coming to the table.

00:21:38.060 Now, we know from a lot of reports and private communications and letters that we have access to now,

00:21:44.840 that Roosevelt, even by the late 1930s, was basically itching to enter into a European conflict.

00:21:50.620 He made the promise when he was doing his 1940 campaign to his re-election that he wouldn't involve himself in any conflict that happened in Europe.

00:21:59.080 But he was actually planning behind the scenes on doing so anyway.

00:22:03.420 And it seems from the reports that I've read and these essays in the history that I've read,

00:22:09.300 that Roosevelt was essentially trying to maneuver a better situation later on so that America would be better prepared to enter into a war.

00:22:16.760 Because by 1938, they were beginning to try to get armaments ready, but they weren't quite prepared in the same way that they were by, say, 1941.

00:22:26.680 Because Roosevelt, through Lend-Lease, for instance, really put Britain under his own thumb.

00:22:33.040 And if you read Stalin's War by Sean McMeekin, which is a remarkable book, which is shockingly available in places like Waterstones,

00:22:39.800 as it's published by Penguin, it seems very, very clear that Roosevelt had in his own aims a breaking up of British power.

00:22:48.940 He saw America as a new and emerging empire.

00:22:52.460 Seems to have worked.

00:22:53.280 Yes, and thought that by maneuvering England and Britain into a situation where it couldn't defend itself

00:23:00.360 and would have to rely on American aid, as we did with Lend-Lease,

00:23:03.100 that he would be able to extend American power across Europe.

00:23:07.840 Contend as well with, as I mentioned, there were communist infiltrators in his administration.

00:23:11.840 When you look at how they treated Britain, where we had Lend-Lease,

00:23:15.820 versus how they treated Russia after 1941 Operation Barbosa,

00:23:20.620 we got Lend-Lease, they got unconditional aid.

00:23:23.940 Anything that they wanted with no obligation to pay it back.

00:23:28.000 Which ended up, of course, blowing up in their face afterwards,

00:23:31.400 because then you descend the Iron Curtain and the Cold War begins.

00:23:35.360 So I just wanted to clear up some historical context.

00:23:39.000 It's interesting to hear that FDR was working on that preparatory stuff,

00:23:42.140 because this is what I understand Churchill was doing as well.

00:23:44.200 Before he got into office, with his strategic foresight,

00:23:48.180 he was kind of setting, thoroughly preparing for Britain's fleets for war,

00:23:52.200 and monitoring Germans' progress, their strength, their maneuvers,

00:23:55.820 and figuring out a scheme, a plan.

00:23:59.080 Which I think is what both sides should have been doing.

00:24:00.920 Well, I mean, England and America should have been doing.

00:24:03.540 So as we've got a technical problem and we can't use the mouse anymore,

00:24:07.880 I've not been able to fix it.

00:24:09.260 It's all right.

00:24:10.620 Okay, we can go ahead without any special things.

00:24:13.600 So as you were alluding to, that special relationship between the UK and the US

00:24:17.560 was started in that period.

00:24:18.680 It was certainly FDR, Massive Lube, and also Churchill.

00:24:22.060 Some, like Carol Quigley, would contend that it began earlier than that

00:24:27.200 with Cecil Rhodes, but I've not actually read his work,

00:24:32.600 and I know it's quite controversial and contentious,

00:24:35.340 so I'm not going to carry on with that.

00:24:37.280 Sorry?

00:24:37.720 Wasn't Cecil Rhodes in South Africa?

00:24:39.660 Yes, but he was also involved with, what's it, Milner's Kindergarteners,

00:24:45.180 I think is what it's called, Milner's Kindergarten, Alfred Milner,

00:24:48.720 who had ideas for basically an Anglo-American world system.

00:24:54.940 But I can't really go in.

00:24:56.240 I mean, I'm sure many people had the idea,

00:24:57.720 but I think between that period, Churchill and FDR were certainly two of the

00:25:01.040 biggest enhancers of that idea and fostered that relationship.

00:25:06.080 And of course, the Iron Curtain speech really helped with that.

00:25:08.060 But I think that's probably an area that was seen as an advantage at the time,

00:25:12.220 but it has turned out to be detrimental,

00:25:13.560 in that we gave up a lot of what we had,

00:25:16.040 or military mights or soft powers,

00:25:19.040 and America was encouraged and strengthened by...

00:25:21.480 I think it ended up being much more beneficial to America

00:25:24.460 than it did to us in the long term.

00:25:26.340 I think as a nation, Britain lost more than anyone.

00:25:30.620 Even Germany gained more out of World War II 0.98

00:25:32.660 with the Americans investing a lot of money in.

00:25:34.640 Well, America gained from Germany as well, 0.73

00:25:38.920 given NASA Operation Paperclip.

00:25:41.360 Yeah.

00:25:42.460 So the point being that Churchill, of course, was not perfect.

00:25:45.100 He was a flawed human being like the rest of us.

00:25:47.680 And previous to this, he was a eugenicist.

00:25:50.160 I think many were at the time,

00:25:51.360 but the whole point of, well,

00:25:52.740 coming out of World War II was it changed that conversation for good.

00:25:55.900 In the early 20th century,

00:25:57.180 there was a department of eugenics in the UK.

00:25:59.180 Yeah.

00:25:59.360 And I don't think we could ever go back there now

00:26:01.380 because of World War II.

00:26:02.540 So it's a thankful consequence.

00:26:04.940 But he was also the man whose failure to act

00:26:07.500 during the Bengal famine in 1943

00:26:09.520 ended up in a million Indians dying.

00:26:14.140 And so, of course, you have some gripes with him yourself.

00:26:17.560 I have a personal gripe, yeah.

00:26:19.000 So my grandfather was on the HMS Repulse.

00:26:21.940 And in 1941, in December of 1941,

00:26:28.440 I think it was Zero Squadron or something like that,

00:26:32.380 was sent out towards the sort of east

00:26:36.260 to fight against the Japanese.

00:26:38.860 And off of the coast of Singapore,

00:26:40.880 on the 10th of December 1941,

00:26:44.060 the HMS Repulse and the HMS Prince of Wales

00:26:46.740 were set upon by the Japanese Air Force and Navy.

00:26:49.360 And, of course, these were two boats.

00:26:54.160 One, I think, was a destroyer

00:26:56.520 against a large section of Japanese military might.

00:27:03.760 And Churchill's intention was to send,

00:27:06.080 you know, basically a small squadron

00:27:08.560 to set up a defence of the east

00:27:11.920 and our assets in the east.

00:27:13.540 And, you know, Singapore, of course,

00:27:14.640 was under the control of Britain.

00:27:16.780 It wasn't known as Singapore at the time.

00:27:18.120 But, yes, and it just wasn't a very good strategy.

00:27:23.500 There was the sinking of the HMS Hood

00:27:25.320 in, I think it was in the Straits of Denmark,

00:27:29.580 which illustrated that these large ships can be sunk.

00:27:33.600 And so there was precedent set

00:27:35.540 that these sorts of things can happen

00:27:37.820 no matter how good our ships are.

00:27:39.980 And sending two of them out without any air support,

00:27:42.720 and that's the key thing here,

00:27:44.280 is that the Japanese, you know,

00:27:47.740 planes were able to do bombing runs

00:27:50.100 and things like that upon the ships

00:27:52.200 as well as there being naval attacks as well.

00:27:55.060 And even though the Repulse was able to dodge 19 missiles

00:27:58.100 before getting hit by four or five simultaneously,

00:28:01.420 which you can't dodge,

00:28:03.780 yeah, it was obvious that no matter what happened

00:28:08.680 to the people on those ships,

00:28:12.020 they were doomed.

00:28:13.600 And they were doomed because they were sent out there

00:28:15.860 with insufficient support. 1.00

00:28:18.020 It was stupid to think that the Japanese 1.00

00:28:20.660 were just going to allow them to go about the ocean, 1.00

00:28:25.060 because of course they had the might to sink them,

00:28:28.320 and they did.

00:28:29.180 And luckily my grandfather survived,

00:28:31.540 but 500 of his other crewmen died.

00:28:35.020 Also, because the sinking was obviously

00:28:37.820 a very brutal thing,

00:28:39.420 he breathed in lots of engine oil,

00:28:41.180 which gave him health problems for the rest of his life.

00:28:43.560 Not to mention the fact he never talked about it

00:28:45.500 because he saw many people he knew well

00:28:48.100 were his friends die.

00:28:50.100 And that happened because of Churchill.

00:28:52.780 And there's no denying that it was his call.

00:28:55.060 Because he was the one that pushed to do this. 1.00

00:28:57.060 It was foolish. 0.98

00:28:57.980 There were lessons already learnt from the war 0.99

00:29:00.060 that could have been done differently.

00:29:02.720 And, you know,

00:29:03.520 had things gone slightly different that day,

00:29:06.580 my grandfather died,

00:29:07.640 well, obviously I wouldn't be here.

00:29:09.700 So I came that close to not existing,

00:29:12.500 thanks to Winston Churchill.

00:29:14.740 So I have my personal gripes with him.

00:29:16.720 I think there are many other examples

00:29:18.720 throughout the war where Churchill ordered something 0.59

00:29:21.240 that was pig-headed

00:29:22.720 and didn't have enough regard for 0.99

00:29:24.520 the cost on the people

00:29:27.200 that he was sending out to do so.

00:29:29.800 I mean,

00:29:30.520 anyone that's going to stick their head above the parapet

00:29:32.100 to the point of leading a war campaign

00:29:34.560 is going to make mistakes.

00:29:35.560 And it's unfortunate

00:29:36.620 because life's always at stake,

00:29:38.380 but it's part of the policy,

00:29:40.720 part of being a leader, isn't it?

00:29:42.020 Part of being a politician, unfortunately.

00:29:43.360 You've got to deal with those sorts of things.

00:29:44.900 But I think there's also a responsibility

00:29:46.580 to be better than he was.

00:29:49.760 Fair enough.

00:29:53.100 I don't want to spend too much time on Hitler 0.98

00:29:54.820 because this is a segment on Churchill,

00:29:56.300 but I just want to put a reminder out there

00:29:57.580 that Hitler was not misunderstood. 0.59

00:30:00.020 The reason we went into World War II 0.88

00:30:02.100 was because there was an invasion of Poland.

00:30:04.420 It wasn't the other way around.

00:30:05.540 It seems to be online in certain far-right circles

00:30:07.840 at the moment that people are suggesting

00:30:09.100 that Churchill caused World War II

00:30:12.460 because he was a warmonger.

00:30:13.560 But the reason we entered

00:30:14.620 was because Poland had already been invaded

00:30:16.480 with a formal declaration of war,

00:30:19.900 sorry, before a formal declaration of war

00:30:21.860 during the period of 1st of September

00:30:23.640 to the 25th of October 1939.

00:30:27.420 So during that occupation of Poland,

00:30:30.300 16,000 Polish people were murdered,

00:30:32.860 and that's just in that first year.

00:30:34.320 There were another 20,000, I believe,

00:30:35.920 in the following year,

00:30:37.240 and of course thousands more after that.

00:30:39.460 But at the same time in 1939,

00:30:42.460 Italy, another Axis power, 1.00

00:30:44.300 obviously invaded Albania.

00:30:46.460 Prior to that, they'd already invaded

00:30:47.520 the Horn of Africa

00:30:48.300 and later Yugoslavia and Greece.

00:30:50.720 So there were very little resistance

00:30:52.380 to the Axis powers.

00:30:53.880 And I think Winston Churchill

00:30:55.420 is one of the few that were bold enough

00:30:56.840 to say, no, we as Britain

00:30:59.040 can put a stop to this.

00:31:00.980 And what began in Germany

00:31:03.180 with the ghettos and the concentration camps 0.98

00:31:04.940 did end with the final solution.

00:31:06.640 And I think we've reached a point online now

00:31:08.920 where we don't even all agree

00:31:10.760 that the Holocaust happened. 0.69

00:31:11.840 You know, the genocide of the European Jews

00:31:13.420 and the Romany Gypsies 1.00

00:31:14.240 when we have so many first-hand,

00:31:17.460 well, not so many first-hand anymore,

00:31:18.840 but lots of second-hand witnesses

00:31:20.640 of the atrocities.

00:31:22.980 And not to mention the Japanese war crimes

00:31:24.720 and their attack on the US,

00:31:26.020 which ultimately dragged America

00:31:27.440 into World War II as well.

00:31:29.180 Just to say, really,

00:31:30.440 that Churchill was in the right time

00:31:32.740 at the right place.

00:31:33.600 He was needed.

00:31:35.040 I think he probably went on

00:31:36.060 to do a bit of a Joe Biden

00:31:37.220 in his second term

00:31:38.780 in 51 to 55.

00:31:40.840 Probably shouldn't have been

00:31:41.580 Prime Minister again.

00:31:42.720 He was too old and frail

00:31:43.800 and making too many mistakes by then.

00:31:46.300 Should have probably retired

00:31:47.360 when he got ousted in 45.

00:31:49.180 But he still went on

00:31:50.180 to be voted as Britain's

00:31:52.240 greatest hero of all time

00:31:53.760 in a BBC poll.

00:31:54.680 And I found this lovely little anecdote

00:31:57.500 to end on

00:31:58.360 with one of the greatest actors

00:32:00.720 of all time.

00:32:01.200 Of course, I was immensely.

00:32:02.400 One of the greatest politicians

00:32:03.220 of all time.

00:32:05.560 Impressed with Churchill.

00:32:09.900 But he was quite another thing, you know.

00:32:12.400 He had great humour

00:32:14.240 and great irony.

00:32:16.420 He went to see me

00:32:17.180 when I played Othello

00:32:18.140 on the stage in London.

00:32:19.920 And I heard a low murmuring

00:32:21.400 in the front row.

00:32:22.700 I thought he was talking

00:32:24.520 to himself.

00:32:25.300 And then he came backstage afterwards

00:32:26.760 and sat down

00:32:28.300 in the dressing room

00:32:28.960 and said,

00:32:30.200 Most potent grave

00:32:31.580 and reverend senors,

00:32:33.260 my most approved

00:32:34.240 good masters.

00:32:35.400 And began the whole

00:32:36.620 of Othello's part

00:32:38.880 which he had memorized.

00:32:40.880 And including the cuts

00:32:43.380 which I had made.

00:32:46.220 Which he read

00:32:47.360 with a good deal

00:32:48.040 of extra emphasis.

00:32:50.000 And then

00:32:50.340 a few years afterwards

00:32:53.980 I happened to be in Venice

00:32:55.000 trying to get some money

00:32:56.160 for a movie

00:32:56.880 during the festival.

00:32:59.500 And poor Churchill

00:33:00.700 had been

00:33:01.160 right after the war

00:33:02.700 as you know

00:33:03.380 crest of

00:33:04.020 the greatest victory

00:33:05.920 that any single man

00:33:07.280 had ever presided over

00:33:08.500 in modern history

00:33:09.340 was voted out of office.

00:33:10.880 Quite properly probably

00:33:12.240 but it was a tragic blow

00:33:13.420 for him.

00:33:13.840 And there he was

00:33:14.320 in the hotel

00:33:15.740 at the Lido

00:33:17.120 with Clemmie,

00:33:18.560 his wife,

00:33:19.240 alone.

00:33:20.340 And he'd go swimming

00:33:21.700 out on the beach.

00:33:23.140 One day at lunch

00:33:24.020 I came in

00:33:24.560 with a Russian businessman.

00:33:25.900 I was trying to hustle

00:33:26.740 for some money

00:33:27.420 for this picture.

00:33:29.320 And as we passed

00:33:30.640 Mr. Churchill's table

00:33:32.040 Mr. Churchill saw me

00:33:33.340 and made that little gesture.

00:33:37.460 And the Russian

00:33:38.040 went out of his mind.

00:33:39.800 This is a white Russian

00:33:40.900 not a red Russian.

00:33:42.200 This is a,

00:33:42.560 this is a,

00:33:43.500 you know,

00:33:44.580 a hustling

00:33:45.260 semi-Armenian Russian.

00:33:46.960 And when he saw

00:33:52.480 that Mr. Churchill

00:33:53.620 not only knew me

00:33:54.840 but gave a rather

00:33:56.000 special acknowledgement

00:33:58.440 it was clear to me

00:34:00.480 that I had the money

00:34:01.260 for my picture.

00:34:02.900 So the next morning

00:34:03.960 I was out swimming

00:34:04.620 in the beach

00:34:05.120 and I found,

00:34:05.680 and I found myself

00:34:06.560 paddling in the water

00:34:07.380 right next to Mr. Churchill.

00:34:09.580 And I hadn't gone up

00:34:10.800 to speak to him

00:34:11.340 but there we were

00:34:11.940 in the water

00:34:12.460 and I had

00:34:13.500 known him on and off

00:34:15.460 during the war

00:34:16.120 in a humble capacity

00:34:17.540 and I said

00:34:18.300 Mr.

00:34:19.820 and he had come backstage

00:34:21.060 to see me

00:34:21.780 and I said

00:34:22.160 Mr. Churchill

00:34:22.720 I think you ought to know

00:34:23.360 what you did for me.

00:34:24.860 And I told him

00:34:25.740 about how this acknowledgement

00:34:27.320 had meant so much to me

00:34:28.800 with my financier.

00:34:30.560 And that day at lunch

00:34:31.780 I came in with

00:34:32.420 the financier again

00:34:33.360 and Mr. Churchill

00:34:35.540 rose from his chair

00:34:37.980 and bowed.

00:34:42.460 That is good.

00:34:52.700 Pretty good, eh?

00:34:53.320 That's good.

00:34:53.860 We'll be back

00:34:54.700 after this message.

00:34:56.220 I love this interviewer.

00:34:57.040 I love that.

00:34:58.680 Another time.

00:34:59.600 I think the most stunning

00:35:00.360 part of that story

00:35:01.280 for me was

00:35:01.960 Orson Welles

00:35:02.700 playing Othello.

00:35:03.760 Wouldn't see that

00:35:04.360 these days, would you?

00:35:05.440 No, you wouldn't.

00:35:07.020 What another era

00:35:07.980 that was.

00:35:09.680 Well,

00:35:11.120 on the topic of church,

00:35:12.600 Oh, okay.

00:35:14.680 Europe needs to stand up

00:35:16.160 for itself, I think.

00:35:17.580 And I've seen for too long

00:35:19.260 too many things

00:35:20.540 that are intolerable

00:35:21.540 be tolerated.

00:35:23.220 And I think that tolerance

00:35:24.040 is not a virtue.

00:35:25.020 It is a vice.

00:35:26.040 It is how you become weak.

00:35:27.880 It's how you become

00:35:28.700 a subject of ridicule.

00:35:30.980 It's how you get taken

00:35:31.720 advantage of.

00:35:32.680 And I wanted to go over

00:35:33.740 some recent stories

00:35:34.560 just in the past couple of weeks

00:35:36.000 just to illustrate

00:35:37.500 what is going on in Europe.

00:35:39.200 And I'm also,

00:35:40.420 because people say,

00:35:41.320 oh, you tell us

00:35:42.900 all of the problems,

00:35:43.500 you don't give us

00:35:43.940 any solutions.

00:35:44.560 Well, I'm going to give you

00:35:45.240 a list of the policies

00:35:46.040 I think that can solve this.

00:35:47.580 So, there you go.

00:35:48.540 To those people, 1.00

00:35:49.280 shut up. 1.00

00:35:50.280 But, here we have 0.99

00:35:51.520 a story here.

00:35:53.000 Two Afghan refugees

00:35:53.820 shine at Coward Cricket Club

00:35:56.140 in Selby.

00:35:57.560 Anyone guess?

00:35:58.900 I've seen these guys'

00:35:59.920 pictures already.

00:36:00.880 Yeah, go on.

00:36:01.160 Calvin, have you seen this?

00:36:02.400 No.

00:36:03.120 What do you reckon

00:36:04.340 these gentlemen

00:36:05.460 might have done? 0.96

00:36:07.340 Rape? 0.99

00:36:09.160 You're good at this. 0.83

00:36:10.220 It's like you've been

00:36:10.640 doing this for a while.

00:36:12.180 Afghan refugee

00:36:12.840 had been praised

00:36:13.700 as humble and admirable

00:36:14.880 charged with gang-raping

00:36:16.120 York woman.

00:36:17.380 There he is, look.

00:36:17.880 Just the woman who was 1.00

00:36:18.760 looking after him

00:36:19.680 or a different one?

00:36:21.140 I don't know,

00:36:22.360 to be honest.

00:36:23.100 Because I remember

00:36:23.680 I saw some reports

00:36:24.700 saying that these two

00:36:26.180 had been housed

00:36:27.120 by a local York woman.

00:36:29.200 So, that man on the right,

00:36:30.680 he didn't do anything.

00:36:31.840 He didn't do anything,

00:36:32.700 but this one did.

00:36:33.520 This guy did, yes.

00:36:34.800 Afghanistan or Pakistan,

00:36:35.840 you can take a guess.

00:36:36.840 Nine times out of ten

00:36:37.560 it would be gang-rape. 1.00

00:36:39.280 And this reminds me

00:36:40.760 of something else,

00:36:41.480 where the media

00:36:42.140 writes puff pieces,

00:36:43.380 aren't these wonderful

00:36:44.200 refugees great?

00:36:45.440 I did one about this guy.

00:36:48.360 I think he was called

00:36:49.020 Moisey L'Hombo.

00:36:50.640 The article that said

00:36:52.120 how he was so good,

00:36:53.500 the first one.

00:36:54.620 Yeah.

00:36:55.120 What outlet is this on?

00:36:57.280 I wonder if the same

00:36:58.660 publication,

00:37:00.700 how they handled

00:37:01.360 after he'd been...

00:37:02.300 Well, most of the,

00:37:03.260 there were lots of articles

00:37:04.260 sharing this thing.

00:37:04.940 Most of them have been

00:37:05.780 taken down.

00:37:07.200 So, this is local press

00:37:09.060 and I've looked at

00:37:09.620 the Swindon Advertiser

00:37:10.760 before as well

00:37:11.620 and they do puff pieces

00:37:12.780 about, look at this

00:37:13.600 local migrant

00:37:14.680 who showed up yesterday

00:37:16.040 and we've already...

00:37:16.660 They're not all bad.

00:37:17.220 Yeah, we've already

00:37:17.760 given him a business

00:37:18.580 and look, he's got...

00:37:19.560 Here's a picture of him

00:37:20.220 smiling.

00:37:21.360 Like him.

00:37:22.320 Like him.

00:37:22.760 He's just like you and me.

00:37:24.040 Yeah.

00:37:24.580 Except you don't rape 1.00

00:37:25.220 your wife and your daughter. 0.99

00:37:26.560 I've also covered this as well.

00:37:27.860 This was an example

00:37:28.620 in Germany

00:37:29.120 of this Kongyo man

00:37:30.400 and they were saying how...

00:37:32.400 Looks like a Welshman to me. 0.92

00:37:33.420 Yeah, he's definitely Welsh.

00:37:34.940 And they're talking about

00:37:36.280 how he does boxing

00:37:37.100 and baking

00:37:37.660 and how he's basically

00:37:39.020 a model

00:37:40.260 for integration

00:37:42.180 and then he went on

00:37:44.060 to do this.

00:37:45.900 He...

00:37:46.240 What? 0.83

00:37:47.320 and sexually assaulted 1.00

00:37:50.400 his own mother. 0.99

00:37:51.400 You had to remind me

00:37:52.280 of this one.

00:37:53.040 I know.

00:37:54.480 This is what...

00:37:54.980 Say what?

00:37:55.600 This is what we're

00:37:56.260 importing into Europe.

00:37:57.340 These are the people

00:37:58.060 that are rubbed in our noses

00:38:00.060 saying,

00:38:00.540 look at these model immigrants. 1.00

00:38:01.980 Aren't they so integrated?

00:38:03.260 No, they're not.

00:38:04.340 We don't do this.

00:38:05.360 This is just insane.

00:38:06.920 This is clinically insane.

00:38:08.100 Yeah, and, you know,

00:38:11.840 we've got this as well.

00:38:14.920 Asylum seeker posed as child 0.90

00:38:16.360 before murdering

00:38:17.620 a spired marine.

00:38:18.520 This was in the news today.

00:38:20.500 There he is.

00:38:21.700 He pretended to be a child

00:38:23.360 as an asylum seeker

00:38:24.880 when he arrived into the UK.

00:38:27.220 Said he was 14,

00:38:28.900 but he's actually 19,

00:38:30.260 and then went on to murder...

00:38:32.100 Oh, my thing stopped working.

00:38:34.340 He went on to murder

00:38:35.980 an aspiring royal marine.

00:38:39.120 And if we go over to France,

00:38:42.160 of course, we have this.

00:38:43.740 There are all of these

00:38:45.740 church burnings,

00:38:47.400 and there's a case here.

00:38:50.940 So this guy that did this

00:38:53.220 had been convicted

00:38:54.560 in eight previous cases

00:38:57.460 for church arson,

00:38:59.140 and he posted things

00:39:01.200 about anti-racism and Islam,

00:39:02.880 and here's his social media,

00:39:05.440 of course, in Arabic

00:39:06.200 and posting pictures of Islam.

00:39:08.260 This is the one

00:39:08.960 who was already

00:39:09.540 a repeat offender.

00:39:10.740 Yeah. 1.00

00:39:11.360 It's ridiculous. 0.94

00:39:12.500 Yeah. 0.92

00:39:12.760 At what point do you say,

00:39:13.580 no, you're just staying in prison?

00:39:15.080 Yeah, and I don't know

00:39:16.560 whether this guy

00:39:17.220 is actually French,

00:39:18.300 but the fact that

00:39:19.040 he's converted to Islam

00:39:20.680 and there's a large

00:39:21.240 Islamic presence

00:39:22.040 shows that it's not even

00:39:23.440 just the people

00:39:24.380 that come to our country 1.00

00:39:25.160 that we need to worry about

00:39:26.140 because they're also

00:39:27.420 having an influence 0.89

00:39:28.100 on the lunatics 0.99

00:39:28.900 that are already here. 0.99

00:39:30.340 They're radicalizing.

00:39:31.600 Exactly.

00:39:32.000 And, oh, I don't know

00:39:35.280 what that's doing there.

00:39:36.760 Samson, can you get rid of that?

00:39:38.400 Oh.

00:39:38.720 There we go.

00:39:39.580 That's me.

00:39:40.680 There you go.

00:39:41.260 Okay.

00:39:42.660 So, this is France again. 0.61

00:39:44.920 This is recent.

00:39:46.080 Illegal Nigerian migrant 1.00

00:39:47.320 sexually assaults woman, 0.99

00:39:50.040 and then the mayor announces

00:39:51.440 women's parking spots

00:39:52.780 and more surveillance.

00:39:54.180 Big brother.

00:39:54.800 Great.

00:39:55.320 That's not how you solve this.

00:39:57.020 How you solve it

00:39:57.760 is you don't have

00:39:58.580 the illegal Nigerian migrant.

00:40:00.120 Right.

00:40:00.280 They can't do that

00:40:02.560 if they're not there,

00:40:03.280 can they?

00:40:03.800 That is how you solve this.

00:40:05.800 You know,

00:40:06.100 having special parking spots

00:40:07.500 and increasing surveillance

00:40:08.820 is unnecessary

00:40:10.040 if you don't have

00:40:11.180 these people here

00:40:11.880 in the first place.

00:40:13.180 And let's go to Germany.

00:40:14.660 This was this morning.

00:40:15.560 There were shots fired

00:40:17.260 outside the Israeli consulate.

00:40:18.980 I would imagine

00:40:21.120 this is someone upset

00:40:22.080 about Palestine,

00:40:23.700 which I imagine

00:40:24.500 it wouldn't be

00:40:25.400 a native German.

00:40:28.540 The Germans had 1.00

00:40:29.420 their period of history

00:40:30.700 where they weren't

00:40:31.260 too big of fans

00:40:33.000 of those people,

00:40:33.680 but it's not so much anymore.

00:40:34.720 They cut over it.

00:40:35.660 Yeah.

00:40:36.980 And in fact,

00:40:37.980 the police officers

00:40:38.880 had to shoot this person dead.

00:40:40.240 We don't know much about it. 0.84

00:40:42.080 Interesting that they mentioned

00:40:43.220 that museum as well,

00:40:45.260 a mid-century

00:40:46.380 German era museum,

00:40:47.580 but I don't think

00:40:48.360 that that's necessarily related.

00:40:50.020 It's just that

00:40:50.420 the consulate is near it.

00:40:52.860 But yes,

00:40:53.360 they had to shoot someone dead 0.99

00:40:54.260 this morning. 0.88

00:40:55.780 And here's another example.

00:40:57.580 This is from

00:40:58.640 just the end of August.

00:41:00.060 The Libyan migrant 0.99

00:41:00.920 arrested after assaulting

00:41:01.980 89-year-old woman

00:41:03.080 in her own home.

00:41:04.240 Kind of evil does that.

00:41:06.060 Yeah, exactly.

00:41:07.820 Apparently Libyans.

00:41:09.280 And here's another one.

00:41:11.240 Somali migrant 0.99

00:41:11.980 stabs German man in the neck 0.95

00:41:13.340 in small town.

00:41:14.580 And he said, 1.00

00:41:15.400 I will kill you 1.00

00:41:16.220 and your families. 1.00

00:41:18.520 Hmm.

00:41:19.660 This is what we're inviting

00:41:20.760 into Europe.

00:41:21.840 And another one,

00:41:23.280 Iraqi migrant

00:41:24.000 murders asylum home operator.

00:41:25.920 So this was someone

00:41:26.780 who offered shelter

00:41:28.460 to migrants

00:41:30.140 and then they were stabbed 0.66

00:41:31.660 by the Iraqi.

00:41:34.360 And this was only a day ago.

00:41:36.800 So there are multiple examples

00:41:38.940 every day.

00:41:40.720 You can just look at Germany,

00:41:42.420 for example.

00:41:43.520 This isn't working for anyone.

00:41:45.580 The Liberals keep saying

00:41:46.320 if you're nicer to them,

00:41:47.280 they'll be nicer back. 0.97

00:41:48.860 Schizophrenic Somalian 0.99

00:41:49.740 who beheaded his roommate 0.96

00:41:50.800 will not be deported

00:41:51.720 from Germany

00:41:52.300 because prosecutors worry

00:41:53.480 he'll just come back.

00:41:54.900 Is that tautology?

00:41:56.560 Why don't you just

00:41:57.520 ban him from the country

00:41:58.620 or close the borders

00:41:59.620 or something then?

00:42:01.280 If we, you know,

00:42:02.560 if European countries

00:42:03.440 had the death penalty,

00:42:04.440 there would be no coming back.

00:42:05.520 I mean, what are they going to do?

00:42:06.860 Are they just going to

00:42:07.300 walk him to the border?

00:42:08.860 He can't be rehabilitated,

00:42:10.220 can he?

00:42:10.580 Like, push him across the border

00:42:12.120 and then if he turns around

00:42:13.260 and walks straight back in

00:42:14.200 and they go,

00:42:14.560 shrug their shoulders,

00:42:15.180 well, nothing we can do now.

00:42:16.600 I'm of the opinion

00:42:17.400 that this humanitarian argument

00:42:19.140 against the death penalty

00:42:20.080 is actually more inhumane

00:42:22.200 than the reality of it, right? 0.91

00:42:24.240 This schizophrenic Somalian 1.00

00:42:25.500 who beheaded someone, 0.98

00:42:27.080 he can never exist

00:42:28.160 in society safely.

00:42:29.520 It's better for everyone.

00:42:30.820 It's probably better for him 0.99

00:42:31.740 as well if he were dead. 0.95

00:42:33.120 We can't even deport people.

00:42:34.120 We're never going to hang them, are we?

00:42:35.380 I know.

00:42:35.820 Well, that's where we need to get to.

00:42:37.240 We need to push things

00:42:38.220 in that direction.

00:42:38.920 Here's another one.

00:42:39.980 German police reportedly cover up

00:42:41.600 sexual assault

00:42:43.240 of a 12-year-old girl 0.62

00:42:44.260 by Syrian refugee

00:42:45.440 who was allowed to walk free

00:42:47.220 after arrest.

00:42:49.560 It's infuriating.

00:42:50.860 This is going to end up

00:42:51.700 in people taking the matter

00:42:52.740 into their own hands.

00:42:54.060 You're going to have vigilantes.

00:42:54.900 Yes.

00:42:56.040 Continue to have 12-year-old girls 1.00

00:42:57.580 raped by these refugees. 1.00

00:42:59.040 Well, that's the thing 0.99

00:42:59.860 is that that was essentially

00:43:00.880 what the beginning

00:43:01.680 of last month was hit.

00:43:02.680 People going to migrant hotels 1.00

00:43:05.580 and trying to enact

00:43:06.560 a form of vigilante

00:43:07.560 preemptive justice.

00:43:09.540 And all it ends up with

00:43:11.880 is native people in prison 1.00

00:43:15.760 because the state

00:43:16.880 actively seem to be

00:43:18.700 pushing this kind of thing.

00:43:20.980 And then when people

00:43:21.620 understandably get annoyed

00:43:22.940 and they say,

00:43:23.960 well, the state's not doing

00:43:24.920 anything to help me.

00:43:25.720 I'll take it into my own hand.

00:43:26.800 Then they get punished

00:43:27.560 for doing such a thing.

00:43:29.080 Well, you only need to point out

00:43:30.080 that there's a problem

00:43:30.800 and you'll have your life ruined

00:43:32.280 like this soldier in Germany

00:43:33.540 who was stripped of his rank

00:43:35.300 over his past support

00:43:36.520 for anti-Islam

00:43:37.600 and anti-multiculturalism movements.

00:43:40.040 Sounds like a good man.

00:43:41.400 Yeah, well...

00:43:42.540 Patriots.

00:43:43.560 Yeah.

00:43:44.060 He's serving for the military

00:43:45.180 and he's not a fan of Islam.

00:43:46.760 Right.

00:43:48.000 That should be everyone

00:43:48.580 who's serving in the military.

00:43:49.560 Yeah, well...

00:43:50.280 Well, remember the German press

00:43:52.740 doxed people.

00:43:54.060 I think it was the Bild newspaper

00:43:55.720 went out of their way

00:43:57.280 to dox a bunch of Germans 0.96

00:43:58.900 because they'd been caught on camera

00:44:00.240 and shared on Twitter

00:44:01.100 singing Auslanderraus. 0.95

00:44:02.760 Yeah, it was ridiculous. 0.80

00:44:03.840 They tried to get them arrested, 0.96

00:44:04.860 didn't they?

00:44:05.180 Yeah.

00:44:06.560 And then here's another one as well.

00:44:08.860 Berlin police have withdrawn

00:44:10.120 their advice to sing loudly

00:44:11.720 if you are confronted

00:44:12.760 with a knife attacker

00:44:13.840 after being widely mocked.

00:44:15.600 That was advice.

00:44:16.060 They claimed the advice

00:44:16.560 was designed to catch an attacker

00:44:18.140 off guard,

00:44:19.260 but in their experience...

00:44:19.560 If you're trying to get them

00:44:20.100 into the Macarena with you,

00:44:21.560 then they won't stab you. 0.84

00:44:21.940 Just sing while you're being stabbed.

00:44:23.480 What is wrong with this world?

00:44:24.600 If you start singing the big part

00:44:25.960 of the middle of Bohemian Rhapsody,

00:44:27.600 they can't resist.

00:44:29.240 How about this idea?

00:44:30.660 If someone pulls a knife on you, 0.82

00:44:31.840 you should be able to pull a gun on them 1.00

00:44:33.060 and shoot them. 1.00

00:44:34.040 Amen. 1.00

00:44:34.720 Yeah.

00:44:35.800 That is justice right there.

00:44:37.880 It works.

00:44:38.700 Yeah, it does.

00:44:39.540 And, you know,

00:44:40.360 it's a good disincentive

00:44:41.320 to go around stabbing innocent people

00:44:42.820 and mugging them 0.98

00:44:43.440 and doing all sorts of horrible things.

00:44:45.500 And also,

00:44:45.940 another German-speaking country as well.

00:44:48.120 A minor anecdote.

00:44:49.780 That reminds me of a story about,

00:44:51.200 you know,

00:44:51.440 the old mad record producer,

00:44:53.500 Phil Spector?

00:44:54.460 Of course, yeah.

00:44:55.100 Yeah.

00:44:55.560 He once pulled a gun on Johnny Ramone

00:44:57.480 in the middle of New York.

00:44:58.880 So,

00:44:59.420 Johnny Ramone pulled a gun on him.

00:45:01.900 And you know what?

00:45:02.540 Neither of them shot each other.

00:45:05.500 It was a good deterrent, actually.

00:45:08.020 If Johnny Ramone had shot him in retaliation, 0.81

00:45:10.980 he wouldn't have gone on to kill that woman. 0.88

00:45:12.840 To be fair, 0.97

00:45:13.240 if someone pulls a gun on you, 1.00

00:45:14.060 you should shoot them. 1.00

00:45:14.940 Not just pull a gun on them, 1.00

00:45:15.680 but you should shoot them 1.00

00:45:16.220 if they pull a gun on you. 1.00

00:45:16.820 Yeah.

00:45:17.380 Josh is right.

00:45:18.280 Phil Spector did end up going

00:45:19.520 and murdering a woman, so. 1.00

00:45:20.960 Yeah, he's a scumbag. 1.00

00:45:21.980 Yeah. 1.00

00:45:22.400 No matter how good

00:45:23.040 the Wall of Sound production method is, 1.00

00:45:26.020 he is a scumbag. 0.99

00:45:28.100 Yeah, so here's an article about Austria, 1.00

00:45:30.720 about talking about how

00:45:32.000 non-Muslim girls wear headscarves 1.00

00:45:35.040 out of fear

00:45:35.800 because Islam has reached such a point.

00:45:38.740 So there are some pretty worrying figures.

00:45:42.100 So primary school pupils in Vienna,

00:45:46.120 Muslims are now 35%, 1.00

00:45:48.420 and it's now larger than Catholicism

00:45:51.020 as the largest religious group in Austria.

00:45:53.820 And if we look at this,

00:45:56.020 so this is talking about

00:45:57.840 Austria's education system,

00:45:59.420 around 70% of school-aged children in Vienna

00:46:01.420 do not speak German in their everyday life.

00:46:03.420 39% or nearly 80,000 children

00:46:05.920 do not have Austrian citizenship.

00:46:08.860 A large minority don't have a citizenship,

00:46:11.040 and a large majority don't even speak German.

00:46:13.380 So lots of teachers are actually quitting

00:46:15.120 because it's impossible to teach these children.

00:46:17.600 What is this?

00:46:18.440 20 quitting on peak days, apparently.

00:46:20.920 What?

00:46:22.600 This is crazy.

00:46:23.640 The country can't survive like this.

00:46:24.940 Yeah, exactly.

00:46:26.000 8 out of 10 reported school crimes in Austria

00:46:28.260 occur in Vienna,

00:46:29.520 with 90% of these incidents

00:46:30.960 committed by immigrant children.

00:46:32.660 You scroll down,

00:46:33.420 I want to see refugee... 1.00

00:46:34.900 Oh my gosh. 0.99

00:46:36.580 They are the problem.

00:46:37.560 Yeah, exactly.

00:46:38.320 These people are enabling...

00:46:39.520 I want to say, 1.00

00:46:40.100 rape us, rape us, stab us. 1.00

00:46:42.840 There's no excuse for people like this now. 1.00

00:46:44.900 They are just facilitating

00:46:46.660 the sexual assault,

00:46:49.460 murder,

00:46:49.980 and destruction of our civilization.

00:46:51.860 As far as I'm concerned,

00:46:53.320 refugees' welcome signs 0.99

00:46:54.440 is signalling you're a traitor to this country. 1.00

00:46:56.380 100%. 0.99

00:46:56.880 Those migrants need deporting, 1.00

00:46:58.740 and these women holding this

00:46:59.740 refugees' welcome sign

00:47:00.620 need to be locked up. 0.95

00:47:02.100 We've had mental asylums for a reason, right? 1.00

00:47:04.260 If people are attacking you,

00:47:06.000 and you're like,

00:47:06.520 we want more of this, 1.00

00:47:07.820 you're mentally ill. 1.00

00:47:08.960 That's not right. 1.00

00:47:09.620 There's nothing good about that.

00:47:11.220 You're not virtuous, 1.00

00:47:12.040 you're just pathetic. 1.00

00:47:14.080 So, 1.00

00:47:14.520 here's another example.

00:47:16.620 At least the Poles 1.00

00:47:17.440 are slightly more stringent.

00:47:19.100 So,

00:47:19.500 this is a Senegalese migrant

00:47:21.360 who went into a popular swimming spot 0.98

00:47:23.580 to defecate,

00:47:25.920 and he just stripped off naked 0.92

00:47:27.000 and went to the toilet

00:47:28.340 where people swim.

00:47:29.760 I thought that's what the Indians do. 0.60

00:47:30.840 I didn't know the Senegalese

00:47:32.020 are doing it, too.

00:47:32.600 Apparently so. 1.00

00:47:33.280 Disgusting. 1.00

00:47:33.680 What's wrong with these uncivilised people? 1.00

00:47:35.180 I know, yeah.

00:47:35.840 It's a place that people go to swim,

00:47:38.400 and he just strips off naked

00:47:39.560 in front of everyone 0.91

00:47:40.380 and goes to the toilet.

00:47:41.740 I honestly don't know. 0.99

00:47:42.780 I'm not asking a stupid question, 0.98

00:47:43.840 but for the sake of it, 0.98

00:47:44.400 I genuinely don't understand

00:47:45.480 why they do this.

00:47:46.100 I don't know much about Senegal.

00:47:48.500 I wonder,

00:47:48.980 do they have many toilets over there?

00:47:51.480 Is it just normalised over there

00:47:54.160 that you just do that

00:47:55.160 so if they get to the Poles,

00:47:56.240 at least they deported him.

00:47:57.800 That's true.

00:47:58.820 The Poles at least 0.98

00:47:59.980 have some fighting spirit in them,

00:48:02.660 which a lot of the rest of Europe

00:48:04.140 do not anymore.

00:48:05.100 In my ideal society,

00:48:06.640 after Stelios showed me Freddy,

00:48:08.660 we all know what I'm talking about there.

00:48:10.760 Do you know what it was?

00:48:11.960 He had named a human turd

00:48:13.600 that he'd found on the street

00:48:14.800 in Swindon, Freddy,

00:48:16.380 and tried to...

00:48:17.860 Well, he did show it.

00:48:18.820 He wanted to show everybody.

00:48:19.520 Because it's Stelios.

00:48:21.060 He's a very strange man.

00:48:23.720 There are so many around Swindon as well

00:48:25.520 that you could exhaust

00:48:26.820 the British name dictionary.

00:48:28.980 Well, in my ideal society,

00:48:30.800 we would then track down

00:48:32.200 the person who did it

00:48:33.420 and deport them. 0.54

00:48:34.580 Yeah.

00:48:35.480 We've got enough CCTV.

00:48:36.760 Yeah, we don't...

00:48:37.520 DNA.

00:48:38.060 We don't need people

00:48:39.180 literally crapping on the streets

00:48:40.800 in our society.

00:48:41.780 You see videos from back in the day

00:48:43.460 of, say, the 1960s,

00:48:44.800 it's a lot cleaner.

00:48:46.160 Yeah.

00:48:46.320 A lot cleaner back here.

00:48:47.920 So, we know we've got the data.

00:48:50.200 It's not just anecdotes, right?

00:48:51.760 Here's the Danish data,

00:48:53.020 some of the best data in Europe,

00:48:54.300 but it's mirrored across,

00:48:55.600 you know, all of Europe.

00:48:57.080 I've looked at the UK data.

00:48:58.760 I've looked at Swedish data recently.

00:49:00.460 I've looked at France, Italy.

00:49:02.140 The whole works

00:49:03.400 all mirrors this trend

00:49:04.820 that people from the Middle East

00:49:06.760 and Africa

00:49:07.400 commit more crimes

00:49:09.040 than elsewhere.

00:49:10.620 And Europe and parts of Asia

00:49:12.280 commit, you know,

00:49:13.920 less.

00:49:15.060 That is just how it works.

00:49:16.540 It's enough to make you racist,

00:49:17.460 isn't it?

00:49:18.040 Hmm.

00:49:18.540 You could say that, yeah.

00:49:20.860 But this,

00:49:22.520 to my mind...

00:49:23.140 God, I'm so tolerant.

00:49:24.360 To my mind,

00:49:25.140 this sort of thing

00:49:26.220 should inform

00:49:27.420 these policies.

00:49:28.380 I said I'd give you solutions.

00:49:29.800 Here they are.

00:49:30.880 Capital punishment

00:49:31.580 for murderers, 1.00

00:49:32.540 sex criminals, 0.67

00:49:33.440 and nonces. 1.00

00:49:34.180 Yep.

00:49:34.760 Give people the legal right

00:49:35.680 to defend themselves.

00:49:36.740 Yep.

00:49:37.260 Mass remigration of criminals

00:49:38.680 and financial net negatives.

00:49:40.200 Yep.

00:49:40.600 No welfare for foreigners 1.00

00:49:41.980 or ideally anyone

00:49:43.200 except maybe people

00:49:43.980 with disabilities.

00:49:45.400 Accept no asylum applications

00:49:47.180 whatsoever.

00:49:48.680 Find the illegals

00:49:49.560 already here 0.99

00:49:50.140 and deport them. 0.54

00:49:51.280 Get the legal migration figures

00:49:52.680 to net remigration.

00:49:54.320 And Nuremberg-style trials

00:49:55.680 of those who imposed

00:49:56.840 this on us

00:49:57.320 in the first place.

00:49:59.060 How can I vote for you?

00:50:00.720 Well,

00:50:01.580 I'm not affiliated

00:50:02.540 with any political party.

00:50:03.780 In fact,

00:50:04.100 I was lukewarm on reform

00:50:05.200 because I thought they were...

00:50:06.100 I'm going to join you, Kip.

00:50:06.800 I like what you've got to say.

00:50:08.900 Well, thank you.

00:50:10.580 This needs to be done.

00:50:11.780 It's serious.

00:50:12.440 Our country is going to be dead

00:50:13.480 if we don't turn things around.

00:50:15.400 The current trajectory

00:50:15.960 shows that this is going to be the way.

00:50:17.620 There's no real appetite

00:50:18.840 for this, really, is there?

00:50:20.660 Well, there is in the public

00:50:21.980 and in the populace,

00:50:22.940 but not in the politics.

00:50:23.980 This should be on everyone's mouth.

00:50:25.660 These policies.

00:50:26.520 This should be hammered home.

00:50:28.180 We want this

00:50:28.920 and anything less than that

00:50:30.140 is betraying

00:50:31.520 the native British people. 0.99

00:50:32.720 Get rid of the traitors. 0.99

00:50:34.420 Exactly.

00:50:34.820 And if you want to, you know,

00:50:37.080 save your country,

00:50:38.220 you can go to the

00:50:39.100 Lotus Eaters merch store

00:50:40.260 and buy yourself

00:50:41.560 a really nice t-shirt.

00:50:43.440 It is a good shirt.

00:50:44.200 I've got that shirt.

00:50:45.180 I like that shirt.

00:50:45.960 I've got that shirt as well.

00:50:48.560 I imagine Josh

00:50:49.140 has ever worn a t-shirt.

00:50:50.180 Can you?

00:50:51.380 He wears them all the time, actually.

00:50:52.920 Does he really?

00:50:53.360 It's off-putting.

00:50:54.560 I don't understand that.

00:50:55.360 It's basically being naked.

00:50:58.760 But yes,

00:51:00.080 these t-shirts are very good.

00:51:01.300 We also have

00:51:01.960 all the other islander stuff

00:51:03.520 that's going off of the merch store

00:51:05.100 at the end of the week.

00:51:06.080 So by the time this goes out,

00:51:07.340 you're not going to have very long

00:51:08.320 to get these limited edition

00:51:09.900 t-shirts, posters, and mugs

00:51:11.400 with all of the islander stuff

00:51:12.980 because eventually

00:51:14.460 there will be some new stuff there.

00:51:16.480 The common sense crusade stuff

00:51:18.160 will still be there.

00:51:18.900 So if you want to get a nice t-shirt

00:51:19.820 or a mug,

00:51:20.340 grab one of those instead.

00:51:21.380 There you go.

00:51:22.500 And yes,

00:51:23.420 to sort of close out,

00:51:24.980 obviously there is

00:51:26.080 a policy solution

00:51:27.680 to this problem.

00:51:28.380 We just don't

00:51:30.020 sell our country off

00:51:31.000 to foreigners.

00:51:32.400 I'm going to stand on this.

00:51:33.440 Everything you just said,

00:51:34.340 apart from one thing,

00:51:35.600 I'm going to stand on

00:51:36.180 all those things

00:51:36.780 in the next election.

00:51:38.420 Well, thank you very much.

00:51:39.500 Go for it.

00:51:41.000 So out of curiosity,

00:51:42.000 what was the one thing

00:51:42.640 you objected?

00:51:43.180 No asylum whatsoever.

00:51:44.840 I think we should,

00:51:45.420 if we are going to take in refugees,

00:51:46.780 they should be from,

00:51:47.480 they should be Christians

00:51:48.520 from Southern Sudan,

00:51:50.100 Northern Nigeria,

00:51:51.020 Artsakh, Armenia.

00:51:52.160 Christians that are genuinely

00:51:52.940 persecuted around the world

00:51:53.980 because if we're going

00:51:54.940 to take people on,

00:51:56.040 that's an argument to be had,

00:51:56.900 then they should be people

00:51:57.840 that share our values.

00:51:59.460 Fair enough.

00:52:00.060 I mean,

00:52:00.660 it was more of a sort of

00:52:02.580 temporary measure, right?

00:52:04.340 Moratorium on asylum

00:52:05.620 in general for a while,

00:52:06.640 yeah, absolutely.

00:52:07.120 I think also

00:52:07.740 the notion of asylum

00:52:09.200 being a temporary thing,

00:52:10.520 not just a route

00:52:11.500 to settlement

00:52:12.220 because that's what's

00:52:13.000 being taken advantage of.

00:52:14.720 So we do have some rumble chats

00:52:15.980 and I think there were some...

00:52:17.660 Yeah, for the Calvin segment

00:52:19.100 as well.

00:52:19.540 Yes, there are.

00:52:21.080 Would you like to read

00:52:21.880 your own ones?

00:52:22.520 Yeah, sure.

00:52:23.620 Let's talk from the bottom, right?

00:52:24.660 Goodbye, Calvin.

00:52:25.640 We're all going to miss

00:52:26.440 your good-natured

00:52:27.360 podcast appearances.

00:52:28.400 Thank you very much.

00:52:29.280 God bless you

00:52:29.860 and it's been great

00:52:30.620 being on the podcast.

00:52:31.520 $50 as well.

00:52:32.740 That's really kind.

00:52:33.400 Very generous.

00:52:33.780 Thank you, the shadow band.

00:52:35.640 The Last Russian says,

00:52:37.420 interesting how the idea

00:52:38.520 of the Commonwealth

00:52:39.080 is still around for Britain.

00:52:40.800 I don't see the colonies

00:52:41.700 of Spain, France, Portugal

00:52:43.240 still having good terms

00:52:44.440 with their former owners.

00:52:46.460 In fact, the opposite.

00:52:47.520 Yes, because the British Empire

00:52:48.760 was a good thing.

00:52:52.340 Aoife Nave.

00:52:54.220 Aoife Nave says,

00:52:55.080 Australian here.

00:52:57.360 In Tasmania,

00:52:58.040 the churchgoers hunted

00:53:01.840 aboriginals for sport,

00:53:03.440 wiped them out.

00:53:04.580 Churchill used our soldiers

00:53:06.060 as shock troops.

00:53:07.500 He didn't care

00:53:08.240 that we were in danger

00:53:09.360 from Japan.

00:53:10.340 Total P word.

00:53:12.040 That's a very narrow perspective

00:53:14.600 of history.

00:53:15.920 I'm not aware of any actual

00:53:17.600 hunting of aboriginals 0.99

00:53:18.760 for sport.

00:53:19.620 I would need to see

00:53:21.000 some pretty hefty evidence

00:53:23.040 to believe that it was done

00:53:24.380 so brutally.

00:53:26.120 Interesting Irish name there

00:53:27.920 for an Australian too.

00:53:29.240 Keith Kaiser says,

00:53:30.360 where I work,

00:53:31.320 I kid you not,

00:53:31.940 we have three incidents

00:53:33.000 of people taking

00:53:34.040 impromptu bathroom trips

00:53:38.440 in the showers

00:53:39.720 while travelling

00:53:40.480 and we are tired

00:53:41.440 of having to clean this up.

00:53:42.640 You just know

00:53:43.400 who are doing it.

00:53:44.540 I don't know

00:53:46.160 if we covered it

00:53:46.820 on the podcast

00:53:47.460 but you know

00:53:48.040 the way there's

00:53:48.480 that massive influx

00:53:49.740 of Indians in Canada

00:53:50.980 at the moment.

00:53:51.740 Yeah.

00:53:52.200 Have we covered

00:53:53.140 the problems

00:53:53.960 that have happened

00:53:54.520 with the lorry

00:53:55.660 and the lorries

00:53:56.820 and the trucks

00:53:57.400 because of a lot

00:53:58.520 of Indians

00:53:58.900 taking those jobs

00:53:59.840 recently?

00:54:01.220 Because,

00:54:01.860 oh have we not?

00:54:03.580 Okay,

00:54:03.980 I'll just mention it.

00:54:04.900 Brown wave.

00:54:05.580 Mention it briefly.

00:54:06.700 Well,

00:54:06.920 on the roads,

00:54:07.500 yes.

00:54:08.120 Because what they do

00:54:09.500 is they want

00:54:10.620 to get those jobs

00:54:11.740 and they want

00:54:12.220 to work them

00:54:13.340 more than anybody

00:54:14.220 else.

00:54:15.780 So they'll take it

00:54:16.740 in shifts

00:54:17.480 to drive the lorry

00:54:19.020 without ever really

00:54:19.860 having to stop

00:54:20.720 to sleep

00:54:21.340 at the side of the road

00:54:22.200 like you do

00:54:22.680 or take bathroom breaks.

00:54:25.860 So there's been

00:54:26.300 a trend recently

00:54:27.400 of people who

00:54:28.980 actually own the lorries

00:54:30.460 that these people

00:54:31.140 are using

00:54:31.580 finding that there is

00:54:32.980 just,

00:54:33.420 it's caked

00:54:34.820 underneath

00:54:35.640 and they break.

00:54:36.960 They don't work

00:54:37.820 properly anymore

00:54:38.720 because they're

00:54:39.840 absolutely caked

00:54:40.480 because they are

00:54:41.000 cutting holes

00:54:41.720 in the bottom

00:54:42.160 of the cabins

00:54:42.840 and using those

00:54:43.960 for bathroom breaks

00:54:44.840 so they don't have

00:54:45.300 to stop

00:54:45.600 at the side

00:54:45.900 of the road

00:54:46.280 or something.

00:54:46.660 Absolute animals.

00:54:49.180 Yeah.

00:54:50.060 Who would even

00:54:50.520 think of that?

00:54:51.720 Yeah.

00:54:52.520 Canada,

00:54:53.500 for being such

00:54:54.420 a tolerant

00:54:55.620 and liberal country,

00:54:56.920 I've seen a lot

00:54:58.080 of just outright

00:54:59.620 anti-Indian stuff

00:55:01.140 coming from there

00:55:01.780 even from

00:55:02.640 some of the more

00:55:03.480 left-wing areas

00:55:04.460 because of the fact

00:55:05.460 that they've been

00:55:06.020 just flooded

00:55:06.940 with them

00:55:07.480 all at once.

00:55:09.240 And of course

00:55:09.680 these will be

00:55:10.280 mainly of the

00:55:11.020 lower castes

00:55:11.720 because in India

00:55:12.280 they've got the

00:55:13.040 caste system 0.94

00:55:14.280 and those on the

00:55:15.520 lower castes

00:55:16.240 are probably the

00:55:17.180 ones who are

00:55:17.700 committing a lot

00:55:18.360 of this

00:55:18.800 disgusting behaviour.

00:55:19.880 That explains 0.50

00:55:20.440 Swindon because

00:55:21.040 it's got a large

00:55:21.660 Indian population

00:55:23.260 and it drives me 0.58

00:55:24.220 mad to live here.

00:55:26.020 But anyway,

00:55:26.800 let's go on to

00:55:27.280 my cheery segment.

00:55:29.860 May I?

00:55:31.120 Of course.

00:55:31.820 May I have this?

00:55:32.880 I'm worried that

00:55:33.600 it's going to stop

00:55:34.160 working.

00:55:35.120 Yeah, let's see.

00:55:36.500 Is it working?

00:55:37.280 It is working.

00:55:38.240 Excellent.

00:55:38.780 So,

00:55:38.900 so,

00:55:40.280 I watched a

00:55:40.860 horrible video

00:55:41.540 on YouTube

00:55:42.520 and so

00:55:44.260 I thought I'd

00:55:45.240 subject all of you

00:55:46.200 to bits and pieces

00:55:46.980 of the information

00:55:47.740 that's held within it

00:55:48.660 because it's really

00:55:49.560 one of those bits

00:55:50.360 where it exposes

00:55:51.660 that side of the

00:55:53.340 internet that we

00:55:54.060 all know exists

00:55:55.400 and is very,

00:55:56.960 very dark

00:55:57.800 and seedy 0.92

00:55:58.840 and perverted 0.67

00:55:59.920 but we don't often

00:56:01.380 want to look into.

00:56:02.900 But it's important

00:56:03.740 to be aware of this

00:56:04.740 stuff,

00:56:05.340 not only because

00:56:06.320 it's an acknowledgement

00:56:08.600 of the darker

00:56:09.960 sides of human

00:56:10.940 nature and the

00:56:11.680 fact that the

00:56:12.060 internet has

00:56:12.620 unleashed a lot

00:56:13.460 of this onto a

00:56:14.120 much more public

00:56:14.840 platform than

00:56:15.960 these people

00:56:16.680 ever had before

00:56:17.760 but also for the

00:56:19.100 well-being and

00:56:19.680 safeguarding of

00:56:20.280 children.

00:56:20.980 Harry really said

00:56:21.800 I browse the dark

00:56:22.660 web so you don't

00:56:23.240 have to.

00:56:23.640 No, I did not.

00:56:24.320 This was a YouTube

00:56:25.200 video.

00:56:25.500 I've seen the same

00:56:26.140 YouTube video that

00:56:26.960 Harry has actually.

00:56:27.900 You were telling me

00:56:28.600 about it yesterday.

00:56:29.260 I actually had to

00:56:30.920 stop and come back

00:56:31.900 to it because it

00:56:32.600 was so bad which

00:56:33.580 I have quite a

00:56:35.080 strong stomach and

00:56:36.380 for something to be

00:56:37.580 that disturbing it

00:56:39.060 takes a lot.

00:56:40.120 Yeah, but the

00:56:40.660 internet has become

00:56:41.400 a place where

00:56:42.020 people can platform

00:56:43.620 to the public

00:56:44.440 their own disgusting 0.96

00:56:45.380 fetishes and I 0.98

00:56:47.120 think it needs to

00:56:47.820 be highlighted here

00:56:49.100 because if you've

00:56:50.260 got children you

00:56:51.440 should be aware

00:56:51.980 that this stuff is

00:56:52.700 out there and you

00:56:53.600 need to try to make

00:56:54.660 definitive steps to

00:56:56.280 prevent your own

00:56:57.000 children from being

00:56:58.300 exposed to this or

00:56:59.860 God forbid being

00:57:01.000 victimized by it.

00:57:03.000 First, you should

00:57:04.660 buy some merch on

00:57:05.640 the website.

00:57:06.300 Bit of a tangent

00:57:06.880 but we've got the

00:57:07.700 merch available still.

00:57:09.240 The Islander merch

00:57:10.360 that we have right

00:57:11.160 now is becoming

00:57:12.060 very limited.

00:57:13.520 I think we're

00:57:14.060 nearing the end of

00:57:15.020 our stocks of it

00:57:15.700 so get it while

00:57:16.620 you still can.

00:57:17.980 That's my favourite

00:57:18.680 t-shirt of the lot

00:57:19.480 by the way.

00:57:20.140 I wear that a lot.

00:57:20.940 It reminds me of

00:57:21.640 a skate brand t-shirt

00:57:22.720 and reminds me of

00:57:23.260 being a teenager.

00:57:24.580 Brings me back to

00:57:25.220 my youth.

00:57:26.040 A very long time

00:57:27.640 ago now.

00:57:29.140 We're almost the

00:57:29.880 same age, Harry.

00:57:30.840 Exactly, you're

00:57:31.480 ancient.

00:57:33.220 Almost is doing a

00:57:34.180 lot of heavy lifting

00:57:34.920 there, Josh.

00:57:35.680 A year apart.

00:57:36.740 Yeah, I can hear

00:57:37.320 your back creaking.

00:57:39.020 Anyway, so one of

00:57:40.960 the problems of the

00:57:41.740 internet is that you

00:57:42.700 don't always know who

00:57:43.620 you're speaking to on

00:57:44.980 the other side and

00:57:45.820 this is a problem for

00:57:46.900 a long time.

00:57:47.700 Now, there is a more

00:57:48.760 innocent side of

00:57:50.140 adults pretending to

00:57:51.900 be kids which is

00:57:52.800 highlighted in this

00:57:53.760 Vice article from

00:57:55.000 ten years ago where

00:57:56.260 there's the habit of

00:57:57.680 adults to try and

00:57:58.980 say, look, my kids

00:58:00.460 said this wacky

00:58:01.380 thing or my kids

00:58:02.500 said this inspirational

00:58:03.680 thing and everybody

00:58:04.840 clapped so that they

00:58:06.400 can try and get likes

00:58:07.480 and try and pretend

00:58:08.320 that the wisdom of

00:58:09.960 youth springs eternal.

00:58:11.840 Gosh, I remember

00:58:12.400 Danny Wallace.

00:58:13.720 Yeah, I know.

00:58:14.460 It's a while back now,

00:58:15.640 isn't it?

00:58:16.100 But of course there is

00:58:17.600 the very dark side of

00:58:19.060 this which is people

00:58:20.380 trying to groom your

00:58:21.640 children online.

00:58:23.560 Groom in the more

00:58:24.420 traditional sense of

00:58:26.040 it.

00:58:26.220 They pretend to be

00:58:26.900 children, they get in

00:58:28.100 touch with other

00:58:28.920 children online so

00:58:30.380 that they can try and

00:58:31.260 get that relationship

00:58:32.200 started and then they

00:58:33.840 can try and exchange

00:58:34.720 images or, God

00:58:36.780 forbid, meet up in

00:58:37.720 person and it's 0.85

00:58:38.840 disgusting and it is

00:58:39.800 a thing that happens.

00:58:40.980 So I saw something on

00:58:41.660 this recently.

00:58:42.420 They created an AI

00:58:43.560 profile, I think it

00:58:44.440 was on Instagram, and

00:58:45.740 the amount of groomers

00:58:47.800 and pedophiles that were

00:58:48.620 just straight in the

00:58:49.540 DMs of this profile, I

00:58:51.000 think it was like a

00:58:51.440 12-year-old girl or

00:58:52.100 something that they

00:58:52.520 created on AI, just

00:58:53.600 everyone was launching

00:58:54.400 on, but Mita doesn't

00:58:55.200 do anything to kind of

00:58:56.040 protect or censor or

00:58:57.740 filter it, it just

00:58:58.640 almost becomes a

00:58:59.720 promoter for these

00:59:00.520 people.

00:59:01.900 Yeah, so there's a

00:59:03.280 YouTube channel which

00:59:04.660 I've been introduced

00:59:05.360 to because it went,

00:59:06.860 some of these videos

00:59:07.760 went a bit viral

00:59:08.740 recently called Nick

00:59:10.160 Crowley who looks into

00:59:11.860 this darker side of

00:59:13.500 the internet and it's

00:59:15.780 really shocking to me

00:59:17.440 as somebody who, you

00:59:18.720 know, I never went on

00:59:20.120 any of those gore

00:59:20.980 websites when I was a

00:59:21.860 child, I never looked

00:59:22.780 at live leaks or any

00:59:24.120 of those websites

00:59:25.020 personally, because I

00:59:26.580 knew that I wouldn't

00:59:27.960 like what was on

00:59:29.620 there, so I avoided

00:59:30.820 it, but it's always

00:59:31.840 part of that knowledge

00:59:32.800 in the back of my

00:59:33.660 head that this sort of

00:59:34.460 stuff is out there and

00:59:36.020 people do really, really

00:59:37.140 horrible and messed up

00:59:38.420 things.

00:59:39.120 So one of the videos

00:59:40.160 that I became aware of

00:59:41.360 through this was

00:59:42.020 PiperGate, which has

00:59:44.760 almost 6 million views,

00:59:46.920 and to give a brief

00:59:47.660 description of this and

00:59:48.700 what was going on here

00:59:49.680 was that there were

00:59:50.420 multiple YouTube

00:59:51.360 channels called things

00:59:52.820 like Piper Rocks,

00:59:54.260 Isabel Piper, that

00:59:55.680 were all connected and

00:59:57.020 presenting the same

00:59:58.620 very strange, very

01:00:01.020 disturbing edits that

01:00:03.160 featured images of

01:00:04.620 children which had been

01:00:05.680 taken from very small

01:00:07.720 YouTube channels being

01:00:08.940 run by children that

01:00:09.880 had very few

01:00:10.660 subscribers.

01:00:11.260 and the person

01:00:13.560 running these channels

01:00:14.680 was pretending to be

01:00:16.120 an 11 year old, 10

01:00:17.240 11 year old girl

01:00:18.100 called Piper, and

01:00:20.320 let me see if I can get

01:00:23.200 some of the footage up

01:00:26.120 here, and it's very

01:00:27.340 messed up, let me just

01:00:28.320 mute this.

01:00:29.960 So, some of these

01:00:32.580 weird, the weird

01:00:34.060 footage, very

01:00:38.460 strange, very

01:00:40.980 abstract.

01:00:41.980 This is a real girl.

01:00:43.040 This is a real girl

01:00:44.200 that somebody has taken

01:00:45.320 images of from their

01:00:46.940 own YouTube channel or

01:00:48.040 from videos that were

01:00:48.900 already available online

01:00:50.160 and decided to start

01:00:51.460 editing them into

01:00:52.340 strange and disturbing

01:00:53.540 scenarios.

01:00:54.760 I see.

01:00:55.260 some of them very

01:00:56.740 sexual, some of them

01:00:58.360 very creepy, lots of 0.96

01:00:59.880 zombie stuff, and

01:01:01.280 again, this was all

01:01:02.960 while pretending to be

01:01:04.460 a 11 year old girl

01:01:06.940 themselves, whoever was

01:01:08.660 running this.

01:01:10.000 So, you can see kids

01:01:11.500 playing pat-a-cake in

01:01:12.680 dilapidated buildings,

01:01:14.060 use of footage from, I

01:01:15.180 think, that's a kids

01:01:16.260 TV show, weird edits

01:01:18.000 like this, where the

01:01:20.560 Joker is there, and

01:01:22.080 you can see that they

01:01:23.120 were also eventually

01:01:24.160 putting on a

01:01:25.240 voice and saying,

01:01:26.520 oh, this is my voice,

01:01:27.540 here's me editing in

01:01:28.340 the woods, let me see

01:01:28.860 if I can get the

01:01:30.720 time here, 7 minutes

01:01:32.740 and 46.

01:01:34.160 Let me play this

01:01:35.000 for you.

01:01:36.720 ...my video, which

01:01:38.080 was the first time

01:01:39.340 that Piper would 0.58

01:01:40.440 reveal her voice.

01:01:43.340 Hi, guys.

01:01:45.900 Well, I was editing

01:01:47.160 some of my videos,

01:01:49.100 and I forgot and

01:01:50.260 left the camera on,

01:01:51.680 so I thought I'd

01:01:53.040 upload it and show

01:01:54.460 you guys, hope you

01:01:56.160 like it.

01:01:56.880 That's equal parts

01:01:57.520 creepy, equal parts

01:01:58.480 lame.

01:02:00.220 That does not sound

01:02:00.840 like a young girl.

01:02:01.620 Well, yes, exactly,

01:02:03.300 and it looked as

01:02:03.980 though he might, the

01:02:05.180 man who was doing

01:02:05.900 this might have

01:02:06.480 pitched the voice up

01:02:07.660 using an audio

01:02:08.620 filter by two

01:02:09.800 octaves or something.

01:02:10.940 So, people started

01:02:11.760 to investigate this

01:02:12.660 because it turned out

01:02:13.220 there was about six

01:02:13.840 or eight other

01:02:14.320 channels posting the

01:02:15.140 same kind of content,

01:02:16.520 some which had been

01:02:17.320 made as recent as

01:02:18.680 2021.

01:02:19.840 One channel had been

01:02:20.740 going back to 2011

01:02:21.740 posting the same

01:02:22.580 thing, and the

01:02:23.260 person behind this

01:02:24.060 had been interacting

01:02:24.900 with a lot of

01:02:25.540 people in the

01:02:26.060 comments as well,

01:02:27.200 sort of role-playing

01:02:28.240 the idea that it

01:02:29.960 was an 11-year-old.

01:02:31.180 People were

01:02:31.740 theorizing that it

01:02:32.680 was a possible

01:02:33.240 catfish from 0.80

01:02:35.080 pedophiles trying to 0.96

01:02:36.360 get little girls or 0.92

01:02:37.900 little boys online,

01:02:39.280 or, best case

01:02:40.440 scenario, a catfish

01:02:42.020 from feds trying to

01:02:43.840 catch people

01:02:44.500 interacting

01:02:45.280 inappropriately

01:02:45.940 because the

01:02:46.400 comments of all

01:02:47.040 of these videos

01:02:47.640 were filled with

01:02:48.440 people inappropriately

01:02:50.240 trying to get in

01:02:51.760 touch with this

01:02:52.660 Piper person.

01:02:54.220 So, 4chan decided

01:02:55.360 to start investigating

01:02:56.500 it, the most

01:02:58.140 honest and

01:02:59.360 integrity-fuelled

01:03:01.340 investigators online,

01:03:02.680 and I'm saying that

01:03:03.360 only half ironically,

01:03:04.760 sadly.

01:03:05.200 Better than the

01:03:05.580 FBI.

01:03:06.140 Yeah.

01:03:06.440 They called in an

01:03:08.240 airstrike on Syria,

01:03:09.600 on Syria, on ISIS in

01:03:11.180 Syria, not on Syria

01:03:12.380 more generally.

01:03:13.320 So, they ended up

01:03:14.400 doing something

01:03:15.560 called PiperGate,

01:03:16.700 and they published

01:03:17.300 on August 2020 a

01:03:18.420 33-page report,

01:03:19.780 and found that

01:03:20.440 these channels were

01:03:21.060 being run by a

01:03:21.940 65-year-old man

01:03:23.540 called William

01:03:24.100 Whittaker, who had

01:03:24.900 been arrested

01:03:25.420 previously in 2002

01:03:27.020 for possession of

01:03:28.220 child sexual

01:03:29.420 exploitation material. 0.97

01:03:31.040 He was a registered 0.94

01:03:31.700 sex offender.

01:03:33.000 He had started

01:03:33.900 after this a

01:03:35.700 child modelling

01:03:36.680 agency called

01:03:38.140 Wizard Productions,

01:03:39.420 where he tricked

01:03:40.280 parents into thinking

01:03:41.460 that if you get me

01:03:42.500 to film videos of

01:03:44.260 your children dancing,

01:03:45.780 then I'll send them

01:03:46.820 off to my

01:03:47.360 connections.

01:03:47.920 He didn't have

01:03:48.720 any connections

01:03:49.260 in Hollywood,

01:03:50.480 and they'll become

01:03:50.960 big stars.

01:03:52.020 And nobody knows

01:03:52.880 what he did with

01:03:53.520 that footage.

01:03:54.060 He ended up getting

01:03:54.620 shut down in 2005,

01:03:55.780 but the police didn't

01:03:57.160 actually do anything

01:03:58.260 to him, despite the

01:03:59.180 fact he was running

01:03:59.700 an illegal, fraudulent

01:04:01.180 business.

01:04:02.280 Of course, he never

01:04:03.580 went to prison over it.

01:04:04.860 So, people theorized

01:04:06.120 that he probably either

01:04:06.840 used them for personal

01:04:07.860 purposes, or was

01:04:09.440 selling them off.

01:04:10.540 And people were

01:04:11.480 theorizing that

01:04:12.900 these videos were

01:04:14.560 being used as some

01:04:15.620 kind of front to

01:04:17.160 sell images or

01:04:19.600 videos of people,

01:04:22.340 young people.

01:04:23.760 And shockingly

01:04:24.740 enough, some of

01:04:25.560 these videos got

01:04:26.380 caught by the

01:04:27.080 YouTube algorithm and

01:04:28.100 picked up and put on

01:04:28.840 YouTube Kids.

01:04:30.480 So, this was

01:04:31.500 actually being put in

01:04:33.420 front of children.

01:04:35.180 So, YouTube

01:04:36.000 demonetize us, but

01:04:37.120 they'll promote that.

01:04:38.560 Yes.

01:04:39.300 And he has since

01:04:40.620 died, William

01:04:41.720 Whittaker, in 2021.

01:04:43.160 We don't know of

01:04:43.860 what, but it may have

01:04:44.860 been natural causes,

01:04:46.220 but the records that

01:04:47.400 4chan were able to

01:04:48.180 get access to show

01:04:49.740 that he had been

01:04:50.960 classified as

01:04:51.640 deceased.

01:04:52.300 So, thankfully, the

01:04:53.400 freak running this

01:04:54.280 sort of stuff is

01:04:56.000 gone.

01:04:56.620 He is gone forever.

01:04:57.800 And that's when I

01:04:58.260 move on to somebody

01:04:59.440 who isn't gone, who

01:05:00.460 is still out there,

01:05:01.660 and it is a video

01:05:02.560 that I became aware

01:05:04.420 of, as many people

01:05:06.080 did over the past

01:05:07.060 few weeks.

01:05:07.620 It's a video by

01:05:08.440 Nick Crowley

01:05:09.160 looking into

01:05:10.300 Smart Schoolboy9.

01:05:13.060 I was aware of it

01:05:14.240 because people like

01:05:14.800 Juice were posting

01:05:16.080 it, and let's

01:05:17.940 take a look at

01:05:19.360 what is going on

01:05:20.180 in here.

01:05:20.500 So, it turns out

01:05:21.180 that this person

01:05:22.700 is somebody who

01:05:25.320 has been running

01:05:25.980 multiple Instagram

01:05:27.300 accounts, all

01:05:28.720 claiming to be

01:05:30.080 small children.

01:05:31.720 Again, 10,

01:05:32.900 11, 12,

01:05:33.760 school children

01:05:34.660 being administered

01:05:37.480 and looked over

01:05:38.200 by their parents

01:05:39.120 as well.

01:05:40.200 Sorry for the

01:05:40.700 creepy imagery on

01:05:41.600 the screen, by the

01:05:42.400 way.

01:05:43.200 And he was also

01:05:44.300 claiming to

01:05:45.520 try to be,

01:05:47.040 trying to highlight

01:05:48.100 pedophilic activity

01:05:49.480 that was taking place

01:05:50.380 on Instagram.

01:05:51.040 Some people theorize

01:05:51.900 that this may have

01:05:52.800 been because he's

01:05:53.660 trying to give it

01:05:54.200 them a cover,

01:05:55.260 a legitimate cover.

01:05:56.200 You can trust me,

01:05:57.100 look, I wouldn't be

01:05:58.060 an adult pretending

01:05:59.240 to be a child

01:05:59.920 online because I'm

01:06:01.300 trying to highlight

01:06:01.900 other people doing

01:06:02.940 that.

01:06:03.520 There were a few

01:06:03.940 different accounts

01:06:04.560 that were all

01:06:05.100 interacting with

01:06:06.000 one another and

01:06:07.220 one of them,

01:06:08.820 Truthsticks11,

01:06:10.920 initially started as

01:06:12.920 supposedly the mother

01:06:13.820 posting pictures of

01:06:14.840 a particular child

01:06:15.840 on the Instagram

01:06:16.940 and it looked

01:06:17.900 relatively normal

01:06:19.560 until, of course,

01:06:20.780 you begin to get

01:06:21.520 some very strange

01:06:22.720 and disturbing

01:06:23.720 edits of children

01:06:25.340 being put on

01:06:26.700 there.

01:06:27.280 So, let me...

01:06:27.980 Oh, I don't want

01:06:28.420 to see these.

01:06:28.940 Some of these are

01:06:30.100 very creepy, so

01:06:31.240 warning to you.

01:06:32.940 very strange

01:06:35.720 and disturbing

01:06:36.400 edits, many of

01:06:37.780 which ended up

01:06:38.660 being photoshopped

01:06:39.920 onto the bodies

01:06:41.120 of adults

01:06:42.040 or young people

01:06:43.760 in, shall we

01:06:45.300 say, inappropriate

01:06:46.500 positions.

01:06:48.220 So, it seemed

01:06:48.720 that this guy was

01:06:49.420 trying to create

01:06:50.380 his own CP.

01:06:52.220 He's weird.

01:06:53.100 Yeah.

01:06:53.760 It's very, very

01:06:54.820 disturbing and

01:06:56.780 there were a few

01:06:57.420 videos where you

01:06:58.280 can hear his voice

01:06:59.200 because he's

01:06:59.720 pretending to be

01:07:00.680 the child and

01:07:01.660 he's putting on

01:07:02.180 a child voice.

01:07:02.620 There was also

01:07:03.300 an obsession

01:07:03.900 with this red

01:07:04.780 lipstick, these

01:07:05.680 eyes, this

01:07:06.240 particular haircut

01:07:06.900 and also, in

01:07:07.680 every single one

01:07:08.360 of them, high

01:07:09.340 heeled mini 1.00

01:07:10.160 boots.

01:07:11.340 And this was

01:07:11.860 across multiple

01:07:13.040 different Instagram

01:07:14.060 accounts that

01:07:15.080 were all posting

01:07:15.940 the same kind

01:07:16.580 of content, just

01:07:17.300 pretending to be

01:07:18.060 different children.

01:07:19.040 So, it'd be a

01:07:19.580 different face but

01:07:20.680 always the same

01:07:21.540 obsession with

01:07:22.520 particular things

01:07:23.420 like briefcase

01:07:24.360 and like the

01:07:25.520 mini boots.

01:07:27.280 Until, of course,

01:07:28.980 everybody found

01:07:29.700 that they

01:07:29.920 connected back

01:07:30.660 to one

01:07:31.180 particular account

01:07:32.060 called Smart

01:07:32.940 Schoolboy9 where

01:07:35.320 the person behind

01:07:36.120 this was posting

01:07:37.200 pictures of

01:07:38.120 himself in this

01:07:41.060 kind of dress

01:07:42.000 pretending to be

01:07:43.120 a schoolboy with

01:07:44.980 the mini boots

01:07:45.760 that were all

01:07:46.660 interacting with

01:07:47.900 one another.

01:07:48.380 so he'd created

01:07:49.080 a miniature

01:07:49.940 ecosystem for

01:07:51.320 himself to play

01:07:52.480 out his own

01:07:53.280 fetish and there

01:07:54.040 were some videos

01:07:54.780 where it seemed

01:07:55.740 that he was

01:07:56.340 pleasuring himself

01:07:58.960 to his own

01:08:00.000 reflection.

01:08:01.300 So he's obviously

01:08:02.040 getting off on

01:08:03.200 all of this and

01:08:03.940 this was on

01:08:04.460 Instagram, these

01:08:05.380 were profiles that

01:08:06.280 were accessible to

01:08:07.520 anybody and

01:08:08.160 everybody.

01:08:09.200 You might end up

01:08:10.100 if you were a

01:08:10.640 child going through

01:08:11.440 Instagram coming

01:08:12.500 across something

01:08:13.660 like this and who

01:08:14.560 knows if he would

01:08:15.140 have been trying to

01:08:15.620 get in touch with

01:08:16.200 you himself.

01:08:17.180 Now I would say

01:08:18.440 to be a bit

01:08:20.820 hyperbolic, it

01:08:21.800 seems almost like

01:08:22.900 demonic possession.

01:08:24.260 Some of the

01:08:24.940 disturbing videos

01:08:26.120 that he was

01:08:26.640 posting on here

01:08:27.740 seemed to show

01:08:29.420 him out and

01:08:30.140 about in public

01:08:30.840 as you can see

01:08:31.560 here, filming

01:08:32.940 this, and one

01:08:33.820 of the videos in

01:08:34.760 particular seemed

01:08:37.100 to show him

01:08:37.920 chasing after an

01:08:39.300 actual school

01:08:39.960 child and some

01:08:40.660 of the photos

01:08:41.260 that he was

01:08:41.780 posting were very

01:08:43.020 clearly taken

01:08:44.400 in school, in

01:08:46.460 playgrounds of

01:08:47.440 children that he

01:08:48.440 must have just

01:08:48.920 gone and taken

01:08:49.480 photos of and

01:08:50.340 put onto his

01:08:50.860 Instagram and

01:08:51.720 started producing

01:08:52.400 videos of.

01:08:53.440 People took a

01:08:54.360 load of notice of

01:08:55.180 this, people

01:08:55.860 started to try and

01:08:56.700 investigate into

01:08:57.480 what this was, on

01:08:58.780 Reddit for instance,

01:08:59.820 people started to

01:09:00.420 conduct investigations

01:09:01.380 and they found out

01:09:02.720 that his real name

01:09:03.940 was David Alter,

01:09:06.080 who was a 59

01:09:06.920 year old man who

01:09:08.580 had done things in

01:09:09.460 the past like

01:09:10.040 writing articles for

01:09:11.220 the local paper

01:09:12.120 talking about the

01:09:13.260 importance of

01:09:13.940 school uniforms for

01:09:16.240 children, obviously

01:09:17.660 he had his own

01:09:18.800 reasons for liking

01:09:20.560 that, and there

01:09:23.160 was rumours that

01:09:24.380 he was also being

01:09:26.440 investigated by the

01:09:27.520 police, because he

01:09:28.120 lives in England, he

01:09:28.920 lives in London, I

01:09:30.180 believe, he formerly

01:09:31.500 supposedly lived in

01:09:33.860 Doncaster, and now

01:09:35.060 there's a big load of

01:09:36.480 rumours swirling

01:09:37.400 around about the

01:09:38.200 guy and what's going

01:09:39.500 on with him and

01:09:40.720 whether there is an

01:09:41.420 investigation, and

01:09:42.520 it's all being

01:09:42.980 collected in this

01:09:43.860 Dextero article here.

01:09:45.420 So they say the

01:09:46.520 first biggest rumours

01:09:47.360 that Smart School

01:09:48.500 Boy 9 was either

01:09:49.300 driven out of

01:09:50.140 Doncaster for his

01:09:50.900 behaviour, or

01:09:51.780 arrested by South

01:09:52.800 Yorkshire City in

01:09:54.140 the 90s.

01:09:54.840 Now, they have

01:09:55.720 actually spoken to

01:09:56.660 the Yorkshire

01:09:57.280 Police, the South

01:09:58.080 Yorkshire Police, and

01:09:59.040 they say that there's

01:09:59.700 no investigation that

01:10:01.180 they can make

01:10:01.680 anybody aware of,

01:10:03.060 and that they said

01:10:04.140 that nothing went

01:10:04.960 on.

01:10:06.140 Initially, Redditors

01:10:06.920 on the subreddit for

01:10:07.680 Doncaster shared what

01:10:08.440 they claimed to have

01:10:09.040 happened to Alter, but

01:10:09.820 questions about him are

01:10:10.540 now being monitored and

01:10:11.400 deleted since the

01:10:12.160 case went viral.

01:10:13.400 Somebody shared a

01:10:14.120 screenshot of one of

01:10:14.820 the threads on the

01:10:15.480 Smart School Boy 9

01:10:16.600 page stating some

01:10:17.300 more information about

01:10:18.000 the supposed arrest of

01:10:18.980 David.

01:10:20.720 Initially, I found a

01:10:21.580 Facebook post from a

01:10:22.400 Doncaster local claiming

01:10:23.360 that David Alter had

01:10:24.200 been arrested.

01:10:24.760 I assumed it was

01:10:25.320 recent, but today I

01:10:26.480 found some other stuff

01:10:27.600 saying that it was

01:10:28.160 happening in the 90s.

01:10:30.720 Screenshots show a

01:10:31.500 post from August 13

01:10:32.520 asking the residents of

01:10:33.820 Doncaster if they

01:10:34.460 remember the man

01:10:35.500 nicknamed by locals

01:10:37.000 as David Walter Alter.

01:10:39.220 It says that he got

01:10:40.960 jailed for stalking a

01:10:42.060 teenage pupil attending

01:10:43.160 the local Hall

01:10:43.900 Cross Academy School.

01:10:44.820 Now, again, these are

01:10:45.540 all rumours being

01:10:46.700 posted by people

01:10:47.460 online, but one of

01:10:50.840 the interesting things

01:10:51.880 was that supposedly

01:10:52.720 there's an archive of a

01:10:54.460 Usenet post from

01:10:55.320 1999 where a writer

01:10:57.540 from Doncaster

01:10:58.800 describes him going to

01:11:00.340 a local Tesco

01:11:01.220 supermarket.

01:11:01.900 So this would have

01:11:02.400 been maybe when he was

01:11:03.340 in his mid-30s,

01:11:05.040 dressed in a school

01:11:06.320 boy's uniform, wearing

01:11:07.740 high-platform girl's

01:11:10.000 shoes, and according to

01:11:11.660 their account, when the

01:11:12.220 cashier asked if they

01:11:12.940 had a Tesco club card,

01:11:13.980 he replied, of course

01:11:15.080 not, I'm only 13, and

01:11:16.900 the person added, this

01:11:17.640 guy's about 30 years

01:11:18.660 old and over 6 feet

01:11:19.620 tall.

01:11:20.100 So apparently, if you

01:11:21.340 were to see him in

01:11:22.040 public, as people did

01:11:23.200 back then, it was a

01:11:25.200 laughing stock, it was

01:11:26.240 worthy of laughing.

01:11:27.320 It's when it gets

01:11:27.960 transposed online and

01:11:29.780 you begin to start

01:11:30.740 seeing the truly

01:11:31.760 depraved nature of

01:11:33.100 this guy's fantasies,

01:11:34.640 that it becomes clear

01:11:35.420 this isn't just some

01:11:36.400 eccentric that you

01:11:37.920 laugh at, this is a

01:11:39.060 guy with some very,

01:11:40.160 very serious 0.74

01:11:41.420 abnormalities mentally

01:11:43.340 who needs to be

01:11:44.880 investigated, especially

01:11:45.600 seeing as some of the

01:11:46.280 footage that he has

01:11:47.300 shared seems to be him

01:11:48.580 chasing school children.

01:11:51.000 Very disturbing.

01:11:52.200 Also, David Firth, the

01:11:55.080 man who was the

01:11:55.840 creator of Salad

01:11:56.880 Fingers, has

01:11:57.820 responded to somebody

01:11:58.900 messaging him saying,

01:11:59.940 well, you're from

01:12:00.380 Doncaster, do you

01:12:01.200 remember this guy?

01:12:02.080 And he said, yeah, I

01:12:03.180 think I remember him

01:12:03.940 walking around town in

01:12:04.800 the late 90s or early

01:12:05.800 2000s when I was at

01:12:07.160 Hulse Cross School.

01:12:07.880 So that's interesting

01:12:09.300 that there seems to be

01:12:09.940 different corroborating

01:12:10.960 reports, even from

01:12:12.120 somebody as high

01:12:12.940 profile as David

01:12:13.740 Firth, saying that,

01:12:14.820 yeah, this guy used to

01:12:15.620 be out and about, we

01:12:17.160 just don't know exactly

01:12:18.740 what's going on with

01:12:19.560 him.

01:12:19.860 But given the fact that

01:12:21.060 this guy is posting

01:12:21.820 essentially illegal

01:12:22.940 material online, some

01:12:24.220 of it created by

01:12:25.100 himself, and that

01:12:26.520 we've seen how deep

01:12:28.840 some of these rabbit

01:12:29.620 holes go, like with 0.78

01:12:30.780 the Pipergate situation,

01:12:32.440 where there is a

01:12:33.220 distinct possibility

01:12:35.060 possibility that it

01:12:35.840 might be a front

01:12:36.820 to these profiles for

01:12:38.240 much more sinister

01:12:39.160 activity going on

01:12:40.240 beyond just the

01:12:41.300 surface level fetishism

01:12:43.260 and disgusting nature

01:12:44.560 of the content that's

01:12:45.220 being posted.

01:12:46.040 Yeah, I hope that this

01:12:46.940 guy is being looked

01:12:47.740 into.

01:12:48.120 People say that there

01:12:48.860 is an investigation

01:12:49.460 going on, but it

01:12:50.660 doesn't seem that

01:12:51.140 anything is being

01:12:51.800 confirmed as of yet.

01:12:54.040 Are you still

01:12:54.440 actively posting?

01:12:56.200 I don't know,

01:12:57.420 actually, if he's

01:12:58.200 actively posting

01:12:59.060 still, because I

01:13:00.680 don't think the

01:13:01.500 accounts exist anymore.

01:13:02.340 After this went

01:13:03.220 viral, I looked on

01:13:04.800 Instagram to find the

01:13:05.760 accounts that it was

01:13:06.420 referring to, and I

01:13:07.480 couldn't find any of

01:13:08.280 them.

01:13:08.440 So I assume, now that

01:13:09.660 he's more well-known,

01:13:10.740 that he's decided to

01:13:11.580 delete all of them, but

01:13:12.620 who knows if he's going

01:13:13.320 to stop doing what

01:13:14.120 he's done, because he

01:13:15.240 might just move on to

01:13:16.240 create some more

01:13:16.940 accounts that people

01:13:17.660 don't find immediately.

01:13:19.180 But yeah, that's the

01:13:20.020 dark side of the

01:13:20.680 internet people don't

01:13:21.660 like to think about.

01:13:22.580 I don't like thinking

01:13:23.280 about it, but it's

01:13:23.900 always worth knowing

01:13:24.860 about, because yeah,

01:13:26.040 there are creeps

01:13:26.660 online who do very

01:13:27.980 disturbing and very

01:13:29.040 deranged things that

01:13:30.980 children should be kept

01:13:32.020 away from.

01:13:33.220 Children don't need 0.53

01:13:33.900 to be on the

01:13:34.280 internet.

01:13:35.240 Certainly not.

01:13:36.300 Wow, that was

01:13:37.220 horrifying.

01:13:38.320 It's grim.

01:13:38.960 I already knew about

01:13:40.720 the Schoolboy9 stuff,

01:13:42.700 but I didn't know

01:13:43.100 about the other case

01:13:43.880 as well, and it's

01:13:44.560 just even more

01:13:45.220 depressing.

01:13:46.580 Ugh.

01:13:47.500 There's a comment

01:13:48.220 there for you,

01:13:48.800 Calvin, by the way.

01:13:50.880 Uh, that's a

01:13:52.960 random name.

01:13:54.320 Doing a drive-by,

01:13:56.040 goodbye to Calvin,

01:13:56.960 keep up the great

01:13:57.700 work, and I hope

01:13:58.460 you'll use your

01:13:59.840 American freedom to

01:14:00.820 tell the truth to

01:14:01.520 powers.

01:14:02.500 To the orcs who

01:14:03.580 have infested the

01:14:04.440 UK, also the web

01:14:06.040 is dark and full of

01:14:07.040 groipers.

01:14:07.620 The web is dark and

01:14:08.420 full of groipers, 1.00

01:14:09.040 unfortunately.

01:14:09.520 The web is not

01:14:10.780 always a good place,

01:14:11.860 but thank you for

01:14:12.380 the shout out.

01:14:12.580 What you've just

01:14:12.960 said is the web is

01:14:13.760 dark and full of 0.99

01:14:14.480 Mexicans. 0.99

01:14:17.500 I don't know if

01:14:18.240 you've seen the

01:14:18.760 typical groiper. 0.87

01:14:19.880 Are they all

01:14:20.440 Mexicans? 0.89

01:14:21.460 They're shockingly 0.82

01:14:22.480 over-indexed in the

01:14:23.520 movement.

01:14:24.100 Really?

01:14:24.820 Yeah.

01:14:25.020 Is Fuentes a

01:14:26.200 Mexican? 0.63

01:14:26.700 What's his? 0.98

01:14:27.440 Yeah, he's a gay 1.00

01:14:28.520 Mexican, yeah. 1.00

01:14:30.540 That's libel.

01:14:31.260 Yeah.

01:14:32.020 I don't think he's

01:14:32.700 out, is he?

01:14:33.320 He's allegedly.

01:14:35.420 I've only heard

01:14:36.120 rumors.

01:14:36.660 Okay.

01:14:38.620 But he does say 0.92

01:14:39.400 having sex with 1.00

01:14:40.060 women is gay, so. 1.00

01:14:41.600 That makes him gay. 1.00

01:14:42.080 By default, yeah. 0.94

01:14:42.820 Can we have something

01:14:45.200 a bit more entertaining

01:14:45.940 now?

01:14:46.500 Yeah, sorry, sorry.

01:14:47.940 I had to watch that

01:14:48.960 video, so I thought I

01:14:49.820 might as well put it

01:14:50.580 to good use.

01:14:51.800 I've watched it again

01:14:52.500 now.

01:14:53.500 I mean, I didn't tell

01:14:54.400 you you had to do

01:14:55.140 that.

01:14:55.680 I know, but I already

01:14:56.440 watched it.

01:14:57.500 Anyway, Samson, take

01:14:58.860 it away.

01:14:59.980 Help us.

01:15:00.340 Good afternoon, ladies

01:15:01.260 and gentlemen.

01:15:02.340 A very short one here.

01:15:03.560 Is that the emblem for

01:15:04.620 the Royal Small Arms

01:15:05.640 Factory Enfield I spy on

01:15:07.380 that laptop?

01:15:08.220 It's too blurry to make

01:15:09.580 out.

01:15:10.180 In other news, I have

01:15:11.160 discovered that the

01:15:11.900 leader of the so-called

01:15:12.720 Far Right Riots was

01:15:14.460 neither Nigel Carl or

01:15:15.940 Tommy Robinson.

01:15:17.160 Here's some secret

01:15:17.920 footage identifying the

01:15:19.400 single greatest threat to

01:15:21.120 multiculturalism.

01:15:21.980 We hold the world

01:15:23.000 ransom for $1,000,000.

01:15:28.680 I knew it.

01:15:30.760 I knew it.

01:15:32.820 Bo's eyebrow game is

01:15:34.340 too good.

01:15:36.220 Yeah, we're going to

01:15:36.640 need a bit more than

01:15:37.360 that.

01:15:37.680 We're breaking out the 0.95

01:15:38.700 kitchen towels, ladies

01:15:39.820 and gentlemen.

01:15:40.480 Oh, it's got the big

01:15:41.160 guns now.

01:15:42.080 What a way to sing out

01:15:43.820 Calvin.

01:15:44.820 You know how people

01:15:45.600 pop a bottle of champagne

01:15:46.800 and that's the

01:15:47.260 Lotus Eater's equivalent.

01:15:48.080 Some water.

01:15:48.840 We're in working

01:15:49.800 hours.

01:15:51.980 Give the desk a nice

01:15:53.600 clean.

01:15:53.940 Look at that.

01:15:54.580 Oh, it's my mouse

01:15:55.400 mat.

01:15:55.580 It's all soggy now.

01:15:56.440 It's your mouse mat.

01:15:57.520 It is, yeah.

01:15:58.380 Let's pull up some

01:15:58.960 comments while you're

01:15:59.520 cleaning.

01:16:00.080 Oh, it's on my's.

01:16:01.020 Ah!

01:16:01.560 Sorry.

01:16:02.280 It dripped on me as

01:16:03.140 well.

01:16:03.840 It travelled.

01:16:08.040 Of course, it's not

01:16:08.980 got here.

01:16:09.960 Now I can say I

01:16:10.760 didn't wet myself.

01:16:11.800 It just dripped on me.

01:16:12.880 It went towards Harry.

01:16:14.640 It was the goblins

01:16:16.140 that did it. 1.00

01:16:16.640 Russian Garbage 1.00

01:16:17.520 Human said, 1.00

01:16:18.420 I wish you nothing

01:16:19.320 but the best,

01:16:20.100 Calvin.

01:16:20.640 You've been a great

01:16:21.240 host and contributed

01:16:21.960 and it is a huge

01:16:23.180 loss to our country

01:16:24.720 to see you leave

01:16:25.700 but I understand

01:16:26.500 your speech

01:16:27.080 and mere presence

01:16:28.260 will land you in

01:16:29.140 danger from the

01:16:29.980 peaceful community

01:16:31.000 of peace

01:16:31.620 soon or later.

01:16:32.940 Keep fighting for

01:16:33.700 the fight.

01:16:35.100 Thank you for

01:16:36.900 everything.

01:16:37.780 Thank you, 0.98

01:16:38.440 Russian Garbage 1.00

01:16:39.260 Human. 1.00

01:16:40.100 And if you guys

01:16:41.180 want to get the

01:16:41.540 inside story or the

01:16:42.260 full story of why

01:16:43.140 I'm going and

01:16:43.660 where I'm going,

01:16:44.460 I did an interview

01:16:45.000 with Dan Wootten

01:16:45.780 on Dan Wootten

01:16:46.540 Outspoken yesterday.

01:16:48.100 Essentially, it's a

01:16:48.840 calling.

01:16:49.180 I'm going to

01:16:49.560 parish but also I do

01:16:50.540 need to get out of

01:16:51.040 here because it's not

01:16:51.620 safe.

01:16:52.820 Calm Rob said,

01:16:53.720 what an absolute

01:16:54.420 shame that we are

01:16:55.400 losing Father...

01:16:55.840 Although these are

01:16:56.340 all about me.

01:16:56.980 This is embarrassing.

01:16:57.740 This is the first

01:16:58.380 part of the comment

01:16:59.720 section that we've

01:17:00.560 got here are all

01:17:01.360 comments about you

01:17:02.440 wishing you well.

01:17:03.400 Okay, well that's

01:17:04.040 lovely.

01:17:04.420 Thank you.

01:17:04.760 Calm Rob says,

01:17:05.500 it's an absolute

01:17:05.960 shame that we are

01:17:06.760 losing Father Calvin.

01:17:07.780 I completely support

01:17:08.740 his decision and

01:17:09.860 fear we will continue

01:17:11.000 to lose our greatest

01:17:12.000 talents and defenders

01:17:13.020 of free speech.

01:17:14.320 Unfortunately, this

01:17:15.080 tyrannical government

01:17:15.860 is only just getting

01:17:17.180 started.

01:17:18.300 I fear you may be

01:17:18.940 right.

01:17:19.220 We've got five years

01:17:19.920 till we can do

01:17:20.360 anything about it but

01:17:21.380 let's hope more people

01:17:22.020 wake up in the next

01:17:22.780 five years so that we

01:17:23.400 can vote our way out of

01:17:24.340 this mess.

01:17:25.180 Otherwise, we're doomed.

01:17:27.020 Tom Gordon, while I wish

01:17:28.280 you all the best, Calvin,

01:17:29.220 very saddened to lose

01:17:30.660 such a great voice for

01:17:31.660 Christendom in this

01:17:33.300 country.

01:17:33.960 Thank you.

01:17:35.220 And Biggie Bigfoot,

01:17:36.540 delighted to hear you're

01:17:37.500 still continuing the

01:17:39.120 common sense crusade.

01:17:40.680 Someone needs to keep

01:17:41.580 reminding the boys at

01:17:43.100 Lotus Eaters that

01:17:43.860 Christ is truly king.

01:17:45.180 Good luck with your new

01:17:47.340 venture, Father.

01:17:48.420 I wish you all the best.

01:17:49.380 Absolutely.

01:17:49.780 We're getting close.

01:17:50.560 I think Carl is so

01:17:51.340 close to conversion.

01:17:53.800 And Andrew Norag said,

01:17:54.840 your presence on the

01:17:55.640 podcast will be missed,

01:17:56.620 Calvin.

01:17:57.260 Praying you have a safe

01:17:58.260 journey to the States

01:17:59.320 and glad to hear that

01:18:00.880 you'll still be

01:18:02.100 contributing to the

01:18:02.960 Lotus Eaters from

01:18:03.640 afar.

01:18:04.080 Thank you very much for

01:18:05.040 all of those wonderful,

01:18:06.100 lovely, heartwarming

01:18:06.860 comments.

01:18:08.900 So we've got some about

01:18:10.440 Winston Churchill as well.

01:18:11.580 Oh, great.

01:18:11.880 We've got some more

01:18:12.440 video comments.

01:18:13.300 Oh, yeah, of course.

01:18:13.920 Yeah, of course.

01:18:14.560 North Devon is an area

01:18:17.060 of outstanding natural

01:18:17.980 beauty, but is facing

01:18:19.060 irreversible change.

01:18:20.620 Fresh residential

01:18:21.300 developments are

01:18:22.020 springing up, but with

01:18:22.880 access being limited to

01:18:24.060 a few winding and

01:18:25.080 narrow roads.

01:18:26.380 The narrowness of the

01:18:27.180 roads is part of the

01:18:27.940 historic charm of the

01:18:28.780 area, including driving

01:18:29.860 through towns like

01:18:30.620 Halsworthy, where the

01:18:31.380 main A388 will suddenly

01:18:32.920 narrow to barely wider

01:18:34.040 than a lorry.

01:18:35.040 The driving experience is

01:18:36.160 fraught with danger as

01:18:37.160 the traffic increases.

01:18:38.660 I've noticed a far

01:18:39.480 greater reliance on the

01:18:40.400 air ambulance to collect

01:18:41.360 those in need, which

01:18:42.180 highlights the strain

01:18:43.040 in the system.

01:18:44.560 I actually went up

01:18:46.700 there in July because

01:18:48.400 that's where my mum's

01:18:49.420 side of the family are

01:18:50.120 from, and I saw how

01:18:52.180 Ilfakum had changed 0.98

01:18:53.580 because that's where my

01:18:54.420 family had a hotel, and

01:18:56.820 it's very, very different.

01:18:58.340 It's a bit dilapidated, and

01:19:00.580 yet loads of people from

01:19:02.700 London and that sort of

01:19:04.300 surrounding area are moving

01:19:05.860 to North Devon and Cornwall

01:19:07.940 to buy houses, and so it's

01:19:09.800 pushing up the cost of

01:19:10.860 living for the people that

01:19:11.640 already live there.

01:19:12.340 I'm terribly sorry to

01:19:13.840 have to do this.

01:19:14.660 I always end up doing it.

01:19:16.260 No way, we're nearly

01:19:17.400 finished!

01:19:18.300 What is wrong with you?

01:19:19.820 We've got nine minutes,

01:19:20.980 Harry.

01:19:23.020 This has been a very

01:19:24.600 eventful podcast.

01:19:26.140 I can't believe he's just

01:19:27.040 walked out.

01:19:29.080 I've spilled water, we've

01:19:30.420 got, you know, flies in here.

01:19:33.080 Harry's gone to the

01:19:33.780 toilet.

01:19:34.820 Anyway, let's carry on,

01:19:36.360 business as usual.

01:19:37.060 I hope to see a part

01:19:41.140 two of the history of

01:19:42.120 money, and something I'd

01:19:43.420 realized recently was

01:19:44.440 brought up in this video,

01:19:45.560 and that's war is hell of

01:19:46.580 expensive.

01:19:47.440 Why did Nixon lift the 0.99

01:19:48.320 gold standard?

01:19:49.160 We ran out of money to

01:19:50.140 fight in Vietnam.

01:19:51.140 The war would have 0.97

01:19:52.000 necessarily ended without

01:19:53.140 funds.

01:19:53.860 Then I realized that this

01:19:55.100 happened before.

01:19:56.200 The Romans diluted silver

01:19:57.520 coins to increase the

01:19:58.620 currency supply, and they

01:19:59.920 fought a lot of foreign 0.64

01:20:00.880 wars.

01:20:01.760 I'm no historian, so I

01:20:03.140 ask, how common was

01:20:04.580 inflation, and how commonly

01:20:05.880 did it correlate to war?

01:20:08.160 I know this was a

01:20:09.060 question for Beau, but I

01:20:10.920 spoke to Beau about this

01:20:11.860 because I was told about

01:20:13.160 it, but also I agree with

01:20:15.060 Beau's answer that

01:20:15.980 inflation is very much

01:20:17.980 correlated with war, to a

01:20:20.560 significant degree, in

01:20:21.880 fact, and that wars are

01:20:25.180 expensive, and if you can

01:20:27.080 tax your population by

01:20:28.680 other means, by inflating

01:20:29.780 the currency, it causes

01:20:31.840 less disruption.

01:20:34.320 You know, of course, the

01:20:35.480 population's already at

01:20:36.760 war, they're already 0.59

01:20:37.560 facing the risk of

01:20:38.840 potentially dying, or

01:20:39.800 someone they know

01:20:40.440 dying, and then you're

01:20:41.600 saying, oh yeah, by the

01:20:42.260 way, we're increasing

01:20:42.900 your taxes, then if you

01:20:46.300 do it via inflation, it's

01:20:47.380 a bit more stealthy, you

01:20:48.240 can get away with it.

01:20:49.140 So if we had fewer wars,

01:20:50.340 we'd be better off.

01:20:51.480 Yeah, it's funny that,

01:20:52.260 isn't it?

01:20:53.520 At the same time, the

01:20:54.500 US is funneling money to

01:20:55.720 BlackRock for the war in

01:20:57.320 the Ukraine, as well as

01:20:58.340 for rebuilding the

01:20:59.100 Ukraine and all that

01:20:59.880 money, where's that money

01:21:00.680 from BlackRock going?

01:21:01.560 Well, probably back to the

01:21:02.160 Biden family, probably,

01:21:03.100 allegedly back to the

01:21:03.800 Biden family.

01:21:04.520 It's almost like there's

01:21:05.520 some sort of military

01:21:06.240 industrial complex.

01:21:07.700 Send the taxpayers'

01:21:08.700 monies to these big

01:21:09.800 corporate entities and

01:21:10.740 then back to the

01:21:11.360 politicians, and then

01:21:12.140 everyone's happy except

01:21:12.820 for the taxpayers.

01:21:13.860 It's a money laundering

01:21:14.740 operation, really, isn't

01:21:15.800 it?

01:21:15.900 It's just a way to steal

01:21:16.640 from the taxpayer.

01:21:17.600 100%.

01:21:17.900 So we have some

01:21:19.620 comments here for

01:21:20.940 yours.

01:21:22.180 Would you like me to

01:21:22.720 read them or show you?

01:21:23.460 Sure, go for it.

01:21:24.520 So Thomas Howell says

01:21:25.780 Churchill was a hero and

01:21:26.920 heroes can be flawed.

01:21:28.140 Amen.

01:21:29.260 Baron von Wargoose says

01:21:31.200 those criticizing Churchill

01:21:32.460 are usually the ones who

01:21:33.820 praise Lenin, Mao, Castro

01:21:35.280 and Klaus Schwab.

01:21:36.700 I refuse to be lectured

01:21:37.500 about morality by people

01:21:39.080 who owe allegiance to 0.96

01:21:40.340 genocidal maniacs who are 0.99

01:21:41.960 willing to create a hell on 1.00

01:21:43.040 earth in the name of

01:21:44.000 revolution.

01:21:44.880 That is true, although I

01:21:46.540 don't like any of those

01:21:47.280 people.

01:21:48.840 Who do you like?

01:21:49.660 Who is a hero of yours?

01:21:53.240 Good question.

01:21:54.320 To be fair, we shouldn't

01:21:54.880 have idols, but heroes are

01:21:56.460 slightly different.

01:21:56.920 I shouldn't put people

01:21:57.760 on board.

01:21:57.820 Apologies, gents, I

01:21:58.800 think that Josh spilling

01:21:59.860 that wood touched me

01:22:00.760 over the edge.

01:22:02.060 Welcome back.

01:22:02.960 I was holding onto it

01:22:03.880 just fine until then.

01:22:05.380 I quite like Ray Mears.

01:22:06.860 Okay, okay.

01:22:07.780 I wouldn't say he's a

01:22:08.720 hero.

01:22:09.320 I just enjoyed his

01:22:10.700 bushcraft shows and

01:22:12.540 teaching and appreciation

01:22:13.680 of nature to the British

01:22:14.760 public, I think is

01:22:15.540 important.

01:22:16.960 Harry, do you have any

01:22:17.440 heroes?

01:22:19.660 He's got to be a

01:22:20.340 musician, isn't it?

01:22:21.480 Devin Townsend.

01:22:22.820 Probably someone like

01:22:23.740 Devin, actually, yeah.

01:22:24.580 There you go.

01:22:24.980 He's a Canadian

01:22:28.160 heavy metal musician

01:22:29.160 who has experimented

01:22:30.400 with lots of different

01:22:31.000 genres, generally

01:22:32.000 speaking like

01:22:32.620 guitarists, because

01:22:33.980 I'm a guitarist, so.

01:22:35.260 Very good, okay.

01:22:36.120 So, a very hairy

01:22:37.080 Harry says, Winston

01:22:38.060 Churchill is often

01:22:38.900 criticised for losing

01:22:39.860 the empire, but in

01:22:40.720 this regard, not only

01:22:41.500 did he serve as

01:22:42.400 Secretary of State

01:22:43.220 for the colonies, but

01:22:44.740 he did everything he

01:22:45.740 reasonably could to

01:22:46.480 save it.

01:22:47.340 Despite what many

01:22:47.940 say about the

01:22:48.500 Bengal famine,

01:22:49.280 Churchill deeply

01:22:49.920 cared and even asked

01:22:50.880 Roosevelt for help in

01:22:52.060 relieving India, but

01:22:53.160 ultimately losing the

01:22:54.020 empire was not

01:22:54.640 necessarily a bad

01:22:55.700 thing for Britain.

01:22:57.020 As the 19th century

01:22:57.980 British Foreign

01:22:58.600 Secretary Canning

01:22:59.460 said, the empire

01:23:00.220 should serve us, not 0.98

01:23:01.860 us serve it.

01:23:03.300 Yeah, there's

01:23:04.220 certainly a good

01:23:04.720 argument for that.

01:23:05.620 I do agree it

01:23:06.140 should serve us, but

01:23:06.780 I do think it was a

01:23:07.260 bad thing that we

01:23:07.700 lost the empire.

01:23:09.600 Yeah, I mean, bad

01:23:11.460 thing for the other 0.68

01:23:12.320 countries, because it

01:23:13.400 costed us more money

01:23:14.980 to administrate it and

01:23:17.040 to, you know, import

01:23:18.560 our technological

01:23:19.340 innovations abroad than

01:23:21.180 we got in return.

01:23:22.740 But also our

01:23:23.600 military might was

01:23:24.340 spread across the

01:23:25.100 empire, and now we

01:23:25.640 have no military

01:23:26.200 might, so now we're

01:23:26.840 relying entirely on

01:23:27.720 the Americans.

01:23:28.880 Well, yeah, I was

01:23:29.700 going to say, I think

01:23:30.540 as a position of world

01:23:32.340 power and dominance

01:23:33.560 that it put us in a

01:23:34.520 much better position

01:23:35.400 than the one we're in

01:23:36.920 today, certainly.

01:23:37.660 So, I'll read one more.

01:23:41.760 Matthew Hammond,

01:23:42.420 wasn't the downfall of

01:23:43.260 Britain as the military 0.91

01:23:44.280 superpower related to the

01:23:45.720 creation of the NHS and

01:23:47.600 backing away from their

01:23:48.540 responsibilities of the

01:23:49.600 British Commonwealth?

01:23:50.800 Churchill supported the

01:23:51.620 creation of the NHS,

01:23:52.680 which could be a

01:23:53.440 legitimate criticism.

01:23:55.360 Yes.

01:23:56.080 That was a massive

01:23:57.840 problem for us, spending

01:24:00.680 all of that money, and

01:24:01.480 that was at least

01:24:02.080 government, yes.

01:24:02.900 Although, yeah, I

01:24:03.480 didn't know that

01:24:03.860 Churchill supported it,

01:24:04.760 though.

01:24:05.200 I will say that, again,

01:24:07.140 we're going to

01:24:07.660 Roosevelt was scheming

01:24:10.300 behind the scenes to

01:24:12.180 basically grab India

01:24:13.240 from us during the

01:24:14.460 Second World War as

01:24:15.560 well.

01:24:15.760 He was saying that he

01:24:16.900 would support Indian

01:24:18.040 independence.

01:24:19.160 So, Roosevelt, despite

01:24:20.460 being our ally in the

01:24:22.540 war front, in terms of

01:24:24.540 actual political aims on

01:24:26.120 the grander scale, was

01:24:27.300 working against us.

01:24:29.060 We should have just

01:24:29.460 given India, to be

01:24:30.400 honest.

01:24:31.540 You can have it.

01:24:33.320 You'll waste all your

01:24:34.740 money building toilets

01:24:35.580 that they won't use.

01:24:36.320 Hey, the UN already

01:24:38.660 does.

01:24:39.380 That's true, yeah.

01:24:40.240 In the end, we did

01:24:41.220 win.

01:24:42.400 Chase Ball says, this is

01:24:43.860 for the Europe segment.

01:24:45.240 In Canada, we have many

01:24:46.620 churches miraculously

01:24:47.500 burning down, mosques and 1.00

01:24:49.220 synagogues untouched. 0.99

01:24:50.820 Governments just blames it

01:24:51.860 on climate change, the

01:24:52.920 pesky, Christophobic

01:24:55.720 climate change.

01:24:56.380 Oh, no.

01:24:57.400 Why was that a tongue

01:24:58.020 twister for me?

01:24:59.040 Kevin Fox says, only 50%

01:25:00.780 of homes in Senegal have

01:25:01.880 toilets.

01:25:02.980 Well, it's on the edge of

01:25:04.460 the Sahara, isn't it?

01:25:05.340 So it's quite a desert-y.

01:25:06.860 And they just, they sort

01:25:08.200 of cover it with sand.

01:25:09.120 What, like cats?

01:25:09.940 Yeah.

01:25:10.520 They just have a litter

01:25:11.300 tray.

01:25:12.640 Omar Awad says, they must

01:25:14.180 be getting their model 0.97

01:25:15.260 migrants from the same

01:25:16.240 place experts get their

01:25:17.300 model climates.

01:25:20.020 Unerringly accurate?

01:25:21.440 Inaccurate.

01:25:22.160 Inaccurate.

01:25:22.640 That's the one, yeah.

01:25:24.040 I can't read anymore.

01:25:25.060 Ever since I spilt that

01:25:25.840 water, I've been beside

01:25:26.680 myself.

01:25:29.040 Charles says, make

01:25:30.480 hanging great again.

01:25:32.580 That sounds really bad out

01:25:33.920 of context, but yes, I

01:25:35.200 agree.

01:25:35.580 Sorry, did I just give

01:25:36.240 that thumbs up?

01:25:37.140 I meant, oh, no.

01:25:38.420 Oh, no, that's terrible.

01:25:39.400 But also, it's a perfectly

01:25:40.480 legitimate policy proposal.

01:25:43.020 And Lord Nerevar says,

01:25:44.260 Europe actually does seem

01:25:45.800 to be fighting back now.

01:25:47.340 They've been inflicted with

01:25:48.960 one too many migrant 1.00

01:25:50.100 stabbings, and that's just

01:25:51.120 it.

01:25:51.520 I wouldn't be surprised

01:25:52.360 to see a big swing in

01:25:53.320 pretty much every upcoming

01:25:54.760 election.

01:25:55.280 I think that's already

01:25:55.940 going on, to be honest.

01:25:57.500 Look at France, look at 0.90

01:25:58.620 Germany, look at Britain, 0.96

01:26:00.780 to a lesser extent.

01:26:02.700 There are moves now.

01:26:03.520 I'm having the impact,

01:26:04.240 yeah, so hopefully

01:26:04.860 momentum will build.

01:26:07.500 Harry.

01:26:08.180 I'll read through a few

01:26:09.000 of mine.

01:26:09.800 Andrew Narrag, in regards

01:26:10.880 to Harry's segment, I

01:26:11.860 only have one thing to

01:26:12.660 say.

01:26:13.020 Demons!

01:26:13.720 They're all possessed by 1.00

01:26:14.700 demons.

01:26:16.280 Yeah.

01:26:16.900 Yeah, maybe.

01:26:18.360 Honestly, maybe.

01:26:19.260 It wouldn't shock me at

01:26:21.520 this point.

01:26:22.640 I just think people are

01:26:23.860 evil.

01:26:25.160 Not all people, but

01:26:26.540 people have a capacity

01:26:28.180 to be horrifically bad.

01:26:30.140 It's just a sin, but that

01:26:31.260 stuff, what Harry was going

01:26:33.180 over, is just evil.

01:26:34.340 That is demonic influence

01:26:36.280 there.

01:26:36.600 And not to say that that

01:26:37.740 would absolve him of

01:26:40.180 responsibility or anything,

01:26:41.560 certainly not.

01:26:42.460 Edward Longshanks,

01:26:43.140 well done, Harry, for

01:26:43.840 highlighting these issues.

01:26:44.820 When I have children, I'll

01:26:45.660 watch over the internet

01:26:46.400 activity as much as

01:26:47.960 possible.

01:26:48.920 You have to draw a fine

01:26:51.240 line with children, because

01:26:52.440 of course they are going to

01:26:53.160 try and push back against

01:26:54.660 you.

01:26:55.100 If you go far too hard on

01:26:57.340 it, you might end up

01:26:59.900 alienating them, making

01:27:01.460 them feel like they want

01:27:03.340 to go behind your back to

01:27:05.100 do things.

01:27:05.680 Kids will push back and

01:27:06.900 rebel, but there is

01:27:08.420 definitely a fine line where

01:27:09.480 you do need to keep your

01:27:10.280 kids away from this stuff.

01:27:11.380 Absolutely, it's just very

01:27:13.280 difficult, especially

01:27:14.240 nowadays when kids are

01:27:15.480 going to be exposed to it

01:27:16.660 at schools as well.

01:27:17.940 If you go to great lengths

01:27:19.700 to stop your kids from

01:27:20.500 having access to phones in

01:27:22.040 the home, and maybe only

01:27:23.480 get them a flip phone that

01:27:24.500 they can use when they're

01:27:25.440 going out and about so

01:27:26.400 that they can stay in

01:27:27.020 contact with you, perfectly

01:27:28.320 reasonable thing to do.

01:27:29.180 I was only on a flip phone

01:27:30.260 for a very, very long time

01:27:31.660 when I was a young boy and

01:27:33.660 a teenager.

01:27:34.800 When you get to school,

01:27:35.900 sadly, it's a race to the

01:27:37.660 bottom.

01:27:38.200 All bets are off, and

01:27:39.140 that's a terrible thing.

01:27:40.200 Schools should really be

01:27:41.120 going about confiscating

01:27:42.200 the phones.

01:27:42.660 I was amazed.

01:27:44.160 There's a new policy

01:27:45.000 about no phones in

01:27:46.000 schools.

01:27:46.380 A lot of schools have

01:27:46.980 this, you can either hand

01:27:48.180 in your phone at the

01:27:48.940 start of term and get it

01:27:49.660 back at the end of term,

01:27:50.340 or just if you get caught

01:27:51.420 with a phone in school,

01:27:52.240 you get punished.

01:27:53.520 I remember being in

01:27:54.580 school, and my phone

01:27:56.280 broke, and so my mum

01:27:58.320 said, oh, I've got a

01:27:59.160 spare phone, and the

01:27:59.900 only problem is it's hot

01:28:00.880 pink, and it's like a

01:28:01.800 hot pink flip phone.

01:28:03.380 And I was almost

01:28:04.400 disappointed that no one

01:28:05.780 bullied me for it.

01:28:07.340 I'm just like, don't

01:28:08.980 just accept it.

01:28:10.100 That's even worse.

01:28:12.060 I was just Josh with

01:28:12.780 his pink flip phone.

01:28:14.080 I was just like, yeah, my

01:28:15.280 phone broke, and I've

01:28:15.980 got my mum's old phone.

01:28:16.900 I'm like, all right,

01:28:17.340 fair enough.

01:28:17.820 Clearly, Josh, they saw

01:28:18.960 the pink phone in your

01:28:20.260 hand and just went,

01:28:20.900 uh, makes sense.

01:28:21.660 Yeah, it tracks.

01:28:22.420 Yeah, it makes sense

01:28:23.260 there.

01:28:23.860 I'll read one more.

01:28:24.380 It's compensating for my

01:28:25.220 masculinity.

01:28:26.020 That's what I was doing.

01:28:26.760 I'll read one more

01:28:27.620 comment.

01:28:28.480 Poods B says, this

01:28:30.120 whole segment, thanks.

01:28:31.840 I hate it.

01:28:32.620 But anyway, I think

01:28:36.800 that's all we've got

01:28:37.440 time for.

01:28:38.340 And first and

01:28:39.500 foremost, thank you

01:28:40.120 very much, Father

01:28:41.200 Calvin, for everything

01:28:42.480 you've done.

01:28:43.180 Thank you.

01:28:43.620 I mean, you're not

01:28:44.160 leaving us.

01:28:45.540 I'm not leaving.

01:28:46.000 I'm not dying.

01:28:46.460 I'll still be here.

01:28:47.100 I just won't be in

01:28:47.540 the studio, unfortunately.

01:28:48.620 That's true.

01:28:49.320 But it's been a

01:28:49.920 pleasure working with

01:28:50.720 you.

01:28:51.240 And make sure everyone

01:28:52.680 to send your best

01:28:54.300 wishes Calvin's way.

01:28:56.540 And of course, you

01:28:57.560 know, he's not

01:28:57.980 disappearing.

01:28:58.860 He'll still be doing

01:28:59.580 the same thing.

01:29:01.540 And thank you very

01:29:02.580 much for watching.

01:29:03.460 And goodbye.

01:29:04.400 Thank you.

01:29:04.760 God bless.

01:29:05.320 Half an hour,

01:29:06.100 Common Sense Crusade.

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