The Roseanne Barr Podcast - ＂My Long Lost Daughter, Brandi＂｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #140

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00:02:14.720 now i love to interview geniuses and my guest today is a genius not only is she a genius she's 1.00

00:02:31.280 a chip off the old block kind of genius it's my daughter uh brandy and brown hi brandy hi happy

00:02:41.380 to be here with you so happy to be here with you now well how are we gonna tell the where should

00:02:51.980 we start with our story where should we start with the miracle there are a lot of miracles

00:02:57.360 ain't there yes you said you and it keeps going right as you get older because you were telling

00:03:04.560 me you stayed at my mom's house just a couple of months ago and you looked in a drawer and found a

00:03:11.220 letter i had written when i was pregnant with you in the home for unwed mothers and you're 55 so

00:03:19.680 that was a 55 year old so yeah so you would have been 17 18 right yeah at the time of writing it

00:03:28.220 it was I mean when you start to be open to miracles they're everywhere and that is kind of the way to

00:03:36.180 for me I think um to see them and to appreciate them so yeah I went to Salt Lake I was in your

00:03:44.220 mom's house my grandma's house and something just led me to her room and there were these three

00:03:50.920 boxes I didn't even understand anyone have words for you know how it was happening I opened it up

00:03:58.080 and there's a letter in there and it caught my eye because it said Denver and I'm in Salt Lake and I

00:04:03.800 was like what is this so I opened it up and I'm reading it and it's your handwriting so I knew

00:04:09.720 it was you writing a letter to your mom but I didn't know the timing like was this before we

00:04:18.240 were separated was this while you were pregnant was this before after I didn't know the context

00:04:23.820 until I read through the whole letter and there was this mention of you saying

00:04:30.560 I felt the baby kick and like everything in me it was this amazing moment to get to

00:04:39.720 to realize what that meant for me but also what that meant for you and what it meant for us

00:04:45.240 and to have this letter that you wrote during that time it never stops the miracles they just

00:04:53.040 wash over you all the time right right and that's how you know there's you know whatever people call

00:05:00.500 it um there's a connection to the divine because there's no way not to see it when you start seeing

00:05:07.120 it um and in that moment in that house like it was sort of this wild rebirth but also this genuine

00:05:14.500 like love for you and what you went through that i can't even imagine and now all these many years

00:05:20.680 of all everything that we've been through since the reunification and coming back really feels

00:05:26.620 like this incredible soul contract that we made with each other before i was even here i think we

00:05:33.300 did too i hate to interrupt but we have to tell the story a little bit people don't know it

00:05:37.620 well you tell it oh we jumped ahead yeah you guys are talking about reunification

00:05:41.500 okay okay well you guys can but just remember you do it because you're good at this and i need to

00:05:47.100 take a drink and that's why i'm here no you had gotten pregnant with brandy when you were young

00:05:53.060 you gave her up for adoption we found her you found her the inquire founder and we were reunited

00:06:00.140 i was 11 when i met you and 10 and a half when i found out that you existed i had no idea so when

00:06:05.880 she says reunification that's when we found brandy and she came back into our family and

00:06:09.640 she has a lovely adoptive family they raised her they did a great job but we know brandy since

00:06:16.360 so here's the crazy thing okay no you okay you say the crazy thing i mean there's a lot of crazy

00:06:22.740 things but then you can share your i mean there's a lot of really wilds okay let me start since i'm

00:06:29.240 the one that had you yeah okay you've earned that first of all it was the most horrific thing

00:06:38.920 in the world to give birth oh no your birth no no but it was i had no idea i asked my mom and

00:06:51.260 grandma and being the liars that they are because they never told me the truth about it they go oh

00:06:57.480 you know you know you'll get through it it's uh you know like women do i mean what were they 0.81

00:07:05.220 that's why i huh what were they gonna say then i mean they should say as i say right now to every 0.99

00:07:11.680 girl out there young girl this shit hurts worse than death it is awful and it goes on for hours 1.00

00:07:19.800 and fucking hours and continually gets worse until you feel like you're shitting a watermelon 1.00

00:07:27.220 I'm telling you what. 1.00

00:07:29.220 That is the truth.

00:07:30.960 I hear you. 1.00

00:07:31.540 I was trying to escape the girls' dorm where they had us all at the, 0.85

00:07:39.420 what was the name of that home for unwed mothers? 0.65

00:07:41.700 Yeah, what is that?

00:07:43.300 Why were you in a home?

00:07:44.480 Oh, it was a Salvation Army home for unwed mothers in Denver, Colorado, 1.00

00:07:48.340 where now we see the whole circuitous story where the Jews fucked us all over. 1.00

00:07:56.500 Oh, I don't know. You're talking about Planned Parenthood? No, we're, you know, I think they all knew our families. Well, I think in the early 70s. So this was 1971. This was the big push. Like there was a lot of coercion. There was a lot of pushing young women to make that choice. There was no counseling. There was no way that you guys could even share last names or find each other later. 1.00

00:08:22.460 so there was a lot of like trauma around all of that and they they sent young women away

00:08:28.700 with the stories so that you know the people in the neighborhood wouldn't talk and all that it

00:08:34.400 was only like a certain amount of time where that happened um and that's kind of where our story

00:08:42.420 begins right yeah it's 1971 1971 the crazy part of another strange synchronicity or maybe not at

00:08:50.420 this point was that family friends that we had in common and that you went there pregnant with me

00:08:56.800 passover and that you and gail my adopted mom okay but here's how it starts and then you can

00:09:05.100 tell that here's how it starts okay i had you number one uno numeral uno and the whole time

00:09:15.960 i was thinking my parents don't want me to keep my baby they're not going to help me and you know

00:09:22.900 i'm not capable as i don't even know what day it is most days right so um

00:09:33.160 so all of them got to get everybody got together oh you're going to salvation

00:09:39.660 Army, Home for Enwood, Mothers in Denver, Colorado. Okay. Anyway, cut to I have you.

00:09:50.240 You come out. But my thinking was, I'm going to meet you again when you're 18 years old.

00:10:00.920 Okay, so these are miracles. So you come out and one of your ears is bent just like my mother's.

00:10:09.660 and you had, you know, you had red hair, just like most of my cousins, and I got to keep

00:10:19.860 you for three days, and it all, we had it all hooked up with the Jewish Family and Children's

00:10:26.480 Services there in, in Denver, and that social worker there, so anyways, they came for you

00:10:34.800 on the third day and i said to you i will see you again when you're 18 years of age

00:10:43.940 and that i had kept my that's why when i wanted to go into show business i kept my name roseanne

00:10:52.120 bar because that's on the birth certificate right because i knew oh she'll when i'm famous she'll

00:10:57.440 come looking for me and then she'll know who i am right and of course amazing it was kind of

00:11:03.860 terrifying that you never know where your kid is and I asked the court can I know about her

00:11:09.480 no I mean it's so brutal they could have easily sent me a text she's fine well they did the

00:11:18.420 closed adoptions then now it's changed in 2016 in Colorado but for a long time you know and they

00:11:25.020 thought I think they were protecting everyone including the young person and it's like it's

00:11:29.840 so much harder to integrate all the information when you're older than from the beginning I think

00:11:34.700 they did a disservice to everybody and the and the adoptee to not have that information um and they

00:11:42.780 have since changed it but yeah then it was all closed you couldn't and they didn't tell you

00:11:47.500 anything so even if and I I kind of believe that I heard you because I I never had that urge to go

00:11:55.260 and then it happened on my 18th birthday we'll tell that story but

00:11:58.820 i think that the closed adoption piece um what they don't tell you is you have to go and search

00:12:08.180 um but let's say i would put it out there that i wanted to find you if you have not also

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00:13:57.360 No, that was way after.

00:13:59.280 that wasn't but i'm just saying once you hit 18 oh you can request but if you didn't sign they

00:14:08.340 still keep it closed now it's different no i did sign i did sign all that whatever i could do i did

00:14:15.400 okay and i think until you're 18 like so either way like that's probably why i thought all that

00:14:22.400 because i thought you would so here's the crazy thing okay now you talk about the crazy well

00:14:27.400 one you and gail who was my adopted mom um missed each other by five minutes a block away from the

00:14:35.100 house that i was raised what does that mean so the wolfson family were actually related to the

00:14:42.300 davises yeah they were married right my uncle perry davis married resa wolfson right and there

00:14:50.420 weren't a lot of adoptions through the jewish family service i think my parents gail and stan

00:14:55.640 Brown waited for three years for a baby girl they had a boy my brother Barry so like how people

00:15:04.060 didn't know is a little bit strange to me but anyway you came to Liz and Stanley Wolfson's

00:15:10.200 Reese's for pregnant with me for Passover yeah I came there for Pesach because it was your family

00:15:17.940 right and you're doing this and like I was trying to think about the fact that you know the story

00:15:24.260 and a family so tied to the lineage

00:15:28.660 and what you must have been going through to be

00:15:31.480 and then a family that was asking you to give that up.

00:15:35.880 But you left early

00:15:37.320 and Gail had come after her Seder to say hi

00:15:41.220 because they were friends

00:15:42.180 and you guys missed each other by five minutes.

00:15:44.080 Oh, I never knew that.

00:15:45.100 Isn't that crazy?

00:15:46.920 And it's like there's a million of those in our story. 0.99

00:15:50.020 but like so pearl wolfson was like probably in her 60s or 70s at the time she would have me over

00:15:59.760 for tea and like nobody understood why is this seven eight year old hanging out with this 70

00:16:05.280 and she was amazing world traveled and this really interesting woman and we like loved each other

00:16:11.560 she would show me pictures and i remember and there's not a lot i remember when you're that

00:16:17.520 age like certain things sear and stick um and she would be like there's rose and there's helen

00:16:24.400 she was showing me so i don't know if she knew and was like kind of keeping the secret or if she

00:16:29.860 was just well i think they all knew i think she knew they never said which is kind of amazing in

00:16:37.120 one like one respect but also but she was basically showing me pictures of my family

00:16:44.200 it was all of you you saw me oh yeah wait you were adopted through this jewish thing in denver

00:16:50.620 in denver this is all in denver this family lives in denver yeah and you i'm just so confused her

00:16:56.960 parents lived in denver too no i know that but when you went to the church of unwed or whatever

00:17:01.660 that was in denver i went from salt lake to den was it a coincidence that your family was there

00:17:06.520 or was it they part of the adoption process no they just lived there that's crazy yeah i didn't

00:17:12.640 this is all new to me too and gail was best friends with liz wolfson like i grew up with

00:17:18.640 the whole family so when gail applied for adoption did she know they say no but literally i was the

00:17:25.360 only they did tell me they say they said your baby is going to be adopted by uh an architect and

00:17:35.680 they said your mom did something she was a teacher teacher okay and they already have

00:17:41.760 one jewish son yeah and they have waited for a jewish daughter for many years so it's

00:17:50.240 your daughter's going to be very loved and uh

00:17:56.400 and i go well where is she goes and they're here and she told me they were there in denver

00:18:02.320 that the fam that the adoptive people so let's check this out so there's like 15 jew jewish

00:18:10.800 families in denver and one every hundred years adopt somebody and so they don't put it together

00:18:18.520 that i the person in their family was pregnant went to denver and gave up a jewish baby who just 0.98

00:18:26.900 happens to show up in their house three days after she's born in denver they don't all fucking 0.94

00:18:34.220 they're all they all gaslighted us they had to know and they kept it quiet there's no other way 0.92

00:18:38.960 there's no other way maybe they did they they say they didn't i think pearl knew and it was kind of

00:18:46.060 lovely in a way that she didn't break that confidence but also she wanted me to know

00:18:50.300 where i came from like oh that's cool you never told me that why do why would i remember at seven

00:18:55.400 or eight pictures and then years later when i met you guys i was like oh that's crazy wow isn't that

00:19:01.760 weird and she had passed by then but it was really amazing so all these pieces and parts and i feel

00:19:08.720 like the adoption story and the Jewish story like we're constantly trying to find those pieces to

00:19:15.260 put together the whole puzzle and it's it's wild there's a lot I think that you learn from that

00:19:22.080 but you're constantly seeing the patterns and you're constantly seeing the miracles because

00:19:27.080 that's another like bit of light that you're integrating within yourself to become whole

00:19:33.500 and it's just so cool whatever whatever you know you go there with me didn't you grow up around the

00:19:39.820 street from me and jenny and jessica so you guys were in bear creek i was more in uh i it's not

00:19:46.880 super far it's not super and i would always like and so you were like by tamarack square you were

00:19:53.100 like 15 minutes from i mean i wasn't far from you guys and i think i i grew up i always knew i was

00:19:58.380 adopted it's a weird thing because you you know you come home and the concept of adoption sort

00:20:04.880 of disappears you're this family but there was always this okay there's this whole other family

00:20:10.920 I'm connected to are they playing at the same like I would look around as you probably did for

00:20:17.160 the ear or different things yeah because it's when you're adopted and you don't have that mirror of

00:20:22.920 seeing yourself in your family you're looking for it constantly yeah that would be weird

00:20:29.100 right yeah and so I remember the first time you and I met we were like comparing our arms and

00:20:35.420 legs and like looking scanning each other kind of oh that's where and it's a cool thing when

00:20:42.060 you're not used to having that that was a mind blower but let's go to so I thought it was two

00:20:50.680 weeks before your 18th birthday so okay so we'll go back to yeah so i well should we tell that when

00:20:59.980 we were young talking to god's story because it kind of leads into the other stuff yeah i mean

00:21:04.800 the more we know each other now the more we see my god we're exactly alike it's amazing it is

00:21:12.160 right and so it ain't nurture because you had kind of a rich family and i there's no nurture

00:21:21.900 you had sane parents yeah and and well everyone's has their things no but you lucked out it's nature

00:21:31.400 and nurture for sure but it was like instant and we'll talk about when we first know but why are we

00:21:37.100 exactly alike we are oh no i mean there's that there's no what is that i mean it's the cord

00:21:45.100 always right even with the so i'll tell you some well we should talk about the okay so let's start

00:21:52.660 with you said two weeks before the phone call so this was well what we didn't know and you can tell

00:22:00.880 your story of how the press came to you after the barbara walters interview and they said listen we

00:22:07.900 know you have a daughter you gave up for adoption right do you want to tell that story happened

00:22:13.080 they shoved you in the elevator before the story came out you wanted me not to find out that way

00:22:19.960 right so you hired somebody that's right so but here okay yeah that's so all right so i'll back

00:22:27.060 up so it's my senior year of high school i'm just trying to get through it my birthday's in may it's

00:22:32.740 prom it's this it's that and all that and all of a sudden i'm at the checkout and i see a tabloid

00:22:40.660 and there's at the top is roseanne bar gives up child for adoption i was like oh well that's

00:22:46.900 interesting there were no details it didn't say male female it didn't have any distinguishing

00:22:53.620 information about that all right listen i got to a point where i realized that every time i went to

00:23:00.060 the doctor i'd leave with absolutely nothing useful they say go drink more water and then

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00:24:40.220 About that young person.

00:24:42.000 And it wasn't like I didn't normally read us something.

00:24:44.300 it was just like beep again those things so i read this whole story and it was just the inklings of

00:24:51.560 it and i remember i close it i put it back and i as i'm putting it back i said a prayer i was like

00:24:59.080 whoever this is is gonna like need their lives are gonna change forever i'm gonna send a little

00:25:04.220 prayer to them never even thinking like that was me i was like oh this poor sob is about to get

00:25:11.600 their their life search i'm gonna send a little prayer because that's a lot this was like april

00:25:17.280 23rd or something my birthday is may 16th well what we didn't know is that a week before

00:25:25.600 they can predate so may 9th for my 18th birthday for may 16th once you're 18 the press is like we

00:25:31.920 can do whatever we want yeah that's right and we had our first phone call and we thought oh we're

00:25:38.800 in the clear okay so I come I read that story I come home and we get the call from the private

00:25:45.360 investigator and he calls and I'm not yet 18 so he has to call Gail and Gail and he call me after

00:25:53.340 school and he's like well hello he's like um so I'm working I'm a private investigator your birth

00:26:05.100 mother is um looking for you would you like to talk to her and i'm like wait what like it was

00:26:12.740 like already disorienting and then gail's on the phone so i'm like trying to like how does she feel

00:26:18.340 about this and whatever and i was like well of course yes and he goes well there's something

00:26:22.680 else i'm like okay he goes well your birth mother is very famous and i'm like okay so i'm thinking

00:26:31.820 like I love to sing and I'm thinking okay I know she's Jewish so I'm like oh my god is it Bette

00:26:38.440 Midler and he's like no and I'm like Goldie Hawn you know I'm like going through all the things

00:26:46.400 and I'm like Barbra Streisand and and then I'm out of names because I'm like singers Jewish okay

00:26:52.740 I mean this was like before you know Pink and Goggin whatever the list was and he goes no

00:26:57.360 and he goes it's Roseanne Barr and I I said Jesus I didn't know she was Jewish

00:27:05.160 so he starts laughing here's the crazy part he's like okay so I'm gonna have her call you tomorrow

00:27:12.160 after school so then I have to go through the whole programming oh my god what do I say and

00:27:17.380 I have 24 hours and blah blah blah I hang up the phone like it's weird it's already weird enough

00:27:22.180 that it's birth mother and then it's weird enough this is 1989 where you told me you looked down on

00:27:28.340 the car well I'm gonna tell that story but this is the show was number one you word the story

00:27:34.440 everywhere yeah the biggest star in the world at the time right yeah and it was like been crazy

00:27:39.840 it was weird enough to get a call saying your birth mother's looking for you and then

00:27:45.120 this whole other I was like oh my god are you kidding me so I hang up the phone and I'm like

00:27:51.800 the room starts spinning and I'm like trying to take it in like it changed things and I'm looking

00:27:59.000 at the pictures on the wall and I'm wondering like who of the rest of the family have I like

00:28:04.040 do I not even know from this whole other side what do I say this is so weird I feel this instant

00:28:09.980 connection but we're also strangers and like we don't have a language like it's all this stuff

00:28:14.360 look down on the coffee table and it was like the you know the tv guides that they used to have

00:28:18.760 and it's you and I was like you guys are really funny like this is and I just staring at you I'm

00:28:28.360 like oh so it's you huh like it was just this weird moment it looked like you so then I ran

00:28:35.500 to the bathroom and I'm like looking in the mirror like what a weird reality that I have

00:28:40.340 your picture and I'm like looking in the mirror of us together and I was like oh because I saw it

00:28:46.760 i mean how could you not right um but you're on the cover of the freaking dallas tv guide and i

00:28:53.740 was like oh this is weird this is gonna be weird and then next thing i know because i but i also

00:29:01.200 was like protective of you because it was like none of that stuff meant that to me like it was

00:29:07.320 about you and i was like i don't want to come in anyway i started getting the calls from the oprahs

00:29:14.900 and the this and the that to do all the you know you know offers paying for college to do interviews

00:29:21.360 and the camera crews are outside it was the days of inside edition yeah yeah they could just show

00:29:28.280 up at your door and anytime i tried to leave the house this was not my reality at all i'm just this

00:29:33.520 little you know texas trying to graduate you probably were used to it it was a few years

00:29:40.400 into all that there's a van outside and I was like hostage in the house like it was just such

00:29:45.680 a weird and I was like I don't want to start my relationship with you with any of that like that

00:29:54.140 was not I don't know how I even at 18 understood or knew or you know had the capacity to like I

00:30:04.580 just knew everybody wanted stuff from you and I didn't want anything other than just you and me

00:30:10.240 but it was like it took on then we're on the cover of the national inquirer on my 18th birthday i'm

00:30:16.560 having to walk into school and people are like it was weird to like see the response from everybody

00:30:22.660 um they're chasing gail into the house she parks the car too far and she's diving over the hood of

00:30:29.780 the car and they're like they call the house phone and they're like we won't use that footage like

00:30:34.760 they were kind still kind of but they would not let me my car was in front with the van so anytime

00:30:42.580 i would go even to drive to school oh my god they would rush me with the so i was like what how do

00:30:49.500 i even handle this so i ended up crazy ordering a pizza to the van and as the pizza delivery guy

00:30:58.700 came they saw me like run to the car and they're like okay we're gonna let you off the hook for

00:31:03.480 tonight because that's really funny that you did that and it was like i was trying to find these

00:31:08.700 weird escapes and then we were so nervous we still hadn't met we're like how do we do this

00:31:13.500 without them chasing or ruining that moment well i remember when i called you i talked mostly to gail

00:31:19.900 we had a great tell me your memory of that because i don't think i've heard you talk about

00:31:26.120 i was staying at the mayflower hotel when i was filming the movie she devil

00:31:30.560 and uh that was weird enough because the first night i got a phone call and they go hi

00:31:38.880 and i'm like who's this you know go through it and then it ends up would you like it this is my 0.96

00:31:44.900 wife would you like us to come over and have sex with you what that was my first night ever in new 0.97

00:31:50.520 York on this at the Mayfell just yeah that was a part of the service or do you know who I am 0.99

00:31:59.680 oh my god and they go no we just know when someone checks into room 513 I go oh I 0.95

00:32:08.800 I don't think you and your wife would want to have sex with me so no um but anyway and weird

00:32:19.880 it was weird that's weird plus i was dating um uh or whatever what was being

00:32:28.120 uh with the one who will or won't be named today well we named him but i mean

00:32:35.640 that was a whole other that was a whole other other worldly thing it was like i was

00:32:41.540 because that's when we met i was seeing miracles and being dragged into hell

00:32:50.740 at the very same time interesting it was weird but uh yeah it was weird for me but um

00:32:58.460 well tell me how that call was on my door and they go hi roseanne in my mayflower like how'd

00:33:06.760 you get up here this was the tabloid yeah okay and he says we have this envelope um we know where

00:33:16.220 your daughter and i'm like oh so that's the night that i called the lawyer and he said uh put 25

00:33:25.140 000 in a plan i'll get the information so later i found out he just gave it to the inquirer i mean

00:33:32.720 we thought oh we're being so good

00:33:34.660 and he worked for them

00:33:36.240 we're like why are all these stories

00:33:38.580 they seem to know quite a bit

00:33:40.560 it's so gross

00:33:42.280 we had no idea

00:33:43.760 I had no idea

00:33:44.680 but anyway I said

00:33:46.660 he goes I'll give you the folder

00:33:49.240 if you'll agree to a reunion story

00:33:51.800 with pictures

00:33:52.580 and I said no I will not

00:33:55.400 I will not

00:33:57.420 he goes well we're not able

00:33:59.660 to give you the packet

00:34:00.940 until you agree to that and i go okay it was supposed to be like information about me and

00:34:07.980 where i was in the packet yeah they were like okay what do i have to do okay 25k on the way

00:34:14.440 and the next day they go we found her you know because they called each other and split the

00:34:19.720 money and and uh well either way so then i called you and i was talking to gail mostly

00:34:28.460 and you weren't hardly talking at all and so i go brandy do you feel weird are you

00:34:37.920 why aren't you talking and you said um no i'm just trying to figure this out

00:34:45.260 then we said well we'll see each other and we you know made it she was mad you

00:34:51.900 weren't Bette Midler is what it was well she looked so much like Goldie Hawn yeah that's where

00:34:59.360 I could see like she'd be so disappointed that must have been so disappointing to find out it

00:35:03.160 was Roseanne Barr right I mean it was amazing to and then to have that right in front of me it was

00:35:10.860 like the signs and miracles are there all the time we just don't always notice and I think

00:35:15.800 um but we had to move up our time and our day because we were so worried that you know yeah

00:35:22.980 we wanted our moment before it became everyone else's that's so weird so you guys were rushed

00:35:28.020 that's the part we were rushed because the inquirer said they were going to release the

00:35:31.460 story yeah right and they i was already on the yeah cover right yeah she was already but that's

00:35:37.100 crazy so you guys met in secret i imagine yeah that was wild so gail and i get on a plane and

00:35:43.480 We were coming out to see you and Geraldine, your sister, for the weekend.

00:35:48.320 And it was like, okay.

00:35:50.200 And it was just so weird.

00:35:51.780 Yeah, it was so weird.

00:35:52.480 Are we just supposed to hang out in Beverly Hills and go have a meal?

00:35:57.060 Or how do we unpack this at all?

00:35:59.040 And I remember being quiet on the phone.

00:36:02.260 I just didn't even know how to process or say.

00:36:04.420 But between that time and when we saw each other, I had put this photo album together.

00:36:09.560 I was like, I want you to know these moments, right?

00:36:12.320 we're putting these pieces together and um and as i'm doing that like i learn about you know

00:36:19.320 my other siblings and like i'm trying to picture them during these moments i'm trying to picture

00:36:25.460 what was happening with you as i'm putting this together it's like we had it is it's like a puzzle

00:36:31.700 we're pretty we're putting the pieces back together and um but i remember so we got on a

00:36:37.040 plane we came out to see you and we had it set at this hotel and you were going to get a suite

00:36:44.940 but we like i think gail and i were like nervous we didn't know like how to process it so we're

00:36:50.340 like we'll go downstairs to the cafe for an hour before and like just sit there and you were probably

00:36:56.040 you came early and i go oh my god i gotta have a cup of coffee before i go up there yeah so we're

00:37:02.120 like oh great we have this whole thing planned out and then we almost blew it and we're just

00:37:08.280 i walked in and said um i'd like to have a cup of coffee and then it was like the magnets

00:37:18.200 it was our eyes yeah or like magnets that's okay and we both started running we ran to each other

00:37:26.360 and i had a bodyguard and he grabbed us and shoved us through the cafe into the elevator

00:37:33.720 he's like naughty because he goes no why because he thought people were going to take videos or

00:37:37.880 something yeah yeah yeah yeah everyone knew it was me but i didn't have any control so the first

00:37:44.120 time you met a bodyguard was pushing you into an elevator shaft yeah well so i saw her walk in the

00:37:49.480 door and i'm sitting here and we just were like whoo and so we like sort of ran to each other in

00:37:55.560 the room we're like embracing we're crying or whatever and then everyone's like oh my god like

00:38:00.700 because they thought i don't know people are gonna swoop in and get the story or whatever so yeah

00:38:05.700 he's like we made this plan we're gonna get you in the elevator we're gonna go up to the suite

00:38:09.860 and it was such a sweet moment because it you and gail and we had uh champagne popping and it was

00:38:17.160 like for me to see you two like thank each other yeah for the amazing gifts that you gave to each

00:38:26.600 other and just the um what a wonderful woman what a wonderful woman and mother my baby mama

00:38:35.320 yeah oh my god it was just this moment of like wow i i can't even and prayer and it was so judaic

00:38:45.380 it really was and I think that that's maybe what got us through the time apart because

00:38:52.820 I think that I heard you say oh I'll find you when you're 18 I never it was never

00:38:59.800 um a negative thing or a concern or any of that I don't know maybe at 18 you don't

00:39:06.520 look at your life yet maybe it would have happened later but um there was a knowing

00:39:11.320 well we bonded because i got you for three days yeah that must have been so hard 0.97

00:39:17.200 yeah i didn't realize it was three days i thought that they okay and uh like handmaid's tale shit

00:39:23.520 yeah it was awful and then uh so you downloaded all kinds of stuff to me oh i three days yeah 0.99

00:39:29.380 i i fixed you right up that's where you got all your mental illness from 0.67

00:39:33.160 then i just said okay you know there was sort of this like i knew when you're 18 didn't even feel

00:39:42.100 weird it was like oh this is as it was supposed to be minus the the inquire but maybe that's what

00:39:49.420 pushed us like i'm also grateful for that because it brought us together because if i hadn't been

00:39:55.220 famous who knows if we would have right you know and if i didn't have if i wasn't famous i wouldn't 0.96

00:40:01.640 have that pain in the ass following me around and they're the ones that found it they bribed 0.93

00:40:07.240 somebody in the denver county clerk's office yeah didn't the inquire find brandy before the p.i 0.99

00:40:12.400 right like the the national inquiry yeah and the p.i calls no i know they split the money i mean

00:40:18.280 that's an amazing thing isn't that guy who will remain unnamed ended up in prison because he did

00:40:23.980 a lot of not great things but yeah he for sure was on the pay i don't know like on the payroll

00:40:30.060 they're all on the payroll in hollywood that's how the inquire works so it's all bribes no i remember

00:40:35.100 i sued the inquirer in one yeah but enough about that but i think that's amazing so we met that

00:40:41.900 weekend yeah and it was instant and it was and i remember like because i'm an overthinker and i

00:40:47.820 don't know if that's the jewish gene or if that's just our family or whatever but like i was running

00:40:52.460 through all of this and i'm in the car you're driving you're in the driver's seat gail's in

00:40:58.460 the passenger and I'm in the back like kind of in the middle having this moment like oh my god I'm

00:41:03.640 the bridge like between these two women and thank you but also um how do I how do we all get out of

00:41:12.020 this unscathed because I knew it's a lot of work that we've done yeah with each other with all of

00:41:18.280 us and there's like this sort of subtext that they don't tell you about um and I'm actually

00:41:24.100 writing about it now and I'm writing a book about our story but also just the the adoption as an

00:41:30.600 adoptee process of healing it because so many of the books like are not on and I don't want to say

00:41:37.160 the other side it's constant life work that I'm doing but what we all learn from this is absolutely

00:41:45.200 incredible like I don't it is right like to see things in such a different way to learn almost a

00:41:51.100 new language with a new family to give love unconditionally with everybody because there's

00:41:57.360 this sort of and I don't want to hurt anyone both my parents passed in 2024 um so the larger family

00:42:07.120 but anyway there is a subtext of we raised her what are you doing coming back yeah um and there

00:42:16.620 is a subtext of the other side which is thank you for taking care of my my baby cub i got her now i

00:42:23.840 got makeup for lost time and it was this constant yeah and i don't think people understood it and

00:42:29.800 they everyone was lovely and well intended everybody was but there was a lot of my dealt

00:42:35.820 right everybody dealt like you said today everyone stayed they did and everyone which is amazing and

00:42:44.100 I don't know a lot of other families that would have, or other adoptee.

00:42:49.360 It's hard.

00:42:50.140 No, it's a testament to your parents, too.

00:42:52.900 For sure.

00:42:53.080 They were incredible, I remember.

00:42:54.780 We all were like, how can we get through this with everybody?

00:42:59.000 They were open.

00:42:59.700 Like a win-win for everybody.

00:43:01.760 Even when we have to check ourselves or do a thing or get our feelings hurt or whatever.

00:43:06.680 And not everybody in all families, but like the key players, enough.

00:43:10.860 No, it's unusual situations.

00:43:12.920 you have to deal even if you're even if you're like the most mature people in the world it's

00:43:16.860 still a weird how'd you feel when you met your siblings well that's the story i really want to

00:43:22.600 tell oh my god that's the best so my favorite story so anyway hold on so we're in the car

00:43:27.780 and i'm like having this moment and you look through the rearview mirror and there's this

00:43:31.560 flash that we get because and we've talked about this like i my first memory my first core memory

00:43:38.860 i'm three years old in my hall closet as a jewish girl like created my own catholic confessional

00:43:45.820 talking to god and like okay i'm back and how can i help and what is all this about and i know you

00:43:51.460 have your genesis story too so we have this moment where we're looking i'm looking at you in the river

00:43:57.160 mirror where we're like without even words we shared that story so just that attunement that

00:44:05.740 we were always like had this connection and we were walking with the divine shekinah hashem

00:44:10.720 whatever word you use for it the the the direct connect that we always trusted and then we had

00:44:17.840 it together but anyway so this download comes and that night i wrote like a five page letter to you

00:44:27.380 explaining all the ways that i used to have the gift of sight i knew what people were thinking

00:44:32.600 feeling from lots of stuff that you had too so anyway I wrote this whole all the things that I

00:44:39.120 probably couldn't say in the phone call and in during the weekend and all that because I'm a

00:44:44.040 writer it comes out that way and um you know on the hotel stationery and the whole deal and I

00:44:51.500 anyway so you called to say goodbye and I said I have this letter and you said

00:44:59.300 yours will be in the mail i wrote you too and that was our first like oh we'd written kind of

00:45:06.060 each other the same letter to each other like i see you i recognize you and you know let's

00:45:13.240 go i know i know it's so funny because i'm like in uh which book was it i guess it's rose anarchy

00:45:21.880 where i wrote about you know my imaginary friend as a girl was god and you too i mean we're exactly

00:45:30.260 it's it's wild here's the funny story so i thought everybody did this i thought i didn't understand

00:45:38.060 so i invited my girlfriend in to the closet and we're sitting there and she's like what is this

00:45:44.980 we're like we're sitting in a dark closet of the toys in here like what is this and I was like oh

00:45:52.120 not everybody does this right so I was like fine you know I got a little offended but I was like

00:45:59.160 I'm not going to share this space with anyone so cut to it's Super Bowl Sunday Gail leaves Barry

00:46:06.460 and Stanley my brother and father in charge they're not paying attention to me I'm very

00:46:11.180 passive aggressive and brilliant at that and I decided I'm gonna run away from home I packed my

00:46:17.620 little bag I can't cross a busy street so I don't know how far I could go but I was like okay so I

00:46:23.100 sit in the and uh do the download whatever I'm ready well Gail comes home they can't find me

00:46:30.580 I'm not in the house they don't remember the last time they've seen me

00:46:35.160 the neighborhood starts looking for me they call the fire department the police department the

00:46:41.680 whole deal and they're freaking out oh my god and they're looking and i mean it was crazy and

00:46:49.120 my friend oh i know maybe where she is i'd fallen asleep i didn't even get out the door i didn't

00:46:56.900 run away i was the whole time for the two hours that the whole neighborhood was looking for me

00:47:01.960 she opens up and i was pissed because now everyone knew my hiding spot in the closet

00:47:07.320 i was in the confession closet with my you know unicorn backpack i hadn't got out the door yet 0.91

00:47:14.920 this is sleep while this is going on that's but my response was like oh shit now i gotta find a

00:47:20.580 new place to talk to god not like oh i'm sorry i made you guys worry that i was so i feel like we 0.54

00:47:27.800 mine was always like um i have to be alone i'm a kind of a hermit and when it hits me i gotta run

00:47:38.340 it hits me at weird times too i'm like you know i'll be back and then the the i like that we call

00:47:47.120 it download the download of swift information you get some good good downloads i do and i'm

00:47:57.260 so grateful that he has gifted me with that and I always had it since I was three I remember my

00:48:06.520 first uh you know experience with seeing another dimension was at age three and going you're going 0.65

00:48:14.920 to pull this dimension down and make it visible and I have indeed done that that's pretty damn

00:48:24.320 cool over and over and over yeah I think maybe a million times too but but that is what it is I

00:48:32.560 feel like that is what being Jewish means is creating a world where God dwells here yes where

00:48:41.460 heaven is here it's not in an afterlife it's not another faith where you're waiting to the Jewish

00:48:48.100 on earth as it is in heaven that's what that means and it in its in perfection and in its

00:48:56.960 contradiction all of it all of it and it's inside the human machine it's inside the mind heart body

00:49:07.800 and soul yeah you don't have to go out there looking for it right right you're building it

00:49:13.440 within and that i mean that is yeah you're building your vessel to contain divine information

00:49:20.620 right so now you're 55 double nickels my favorite number what are we gonna do are we gonna start

00:49:31.240 doing our revivals and being teaching kabbalah and doing all this stuff we've done a little

00:49:37.720 bit here and there but we have done a little bit here and there i have to say i want to thank you

00:49:42.180 for that because i i grew up very like the traditional jewish aspect of like sunday school

00:49:50.660 and summer camps and all that which was great for like the connective tissue of the holidays and the

00:49:56.940 prayers and all that but i always had this you know more mystical more mystical side right like

00:50:04.420 okay well where's the you know where's that aspect and i didn't know it was in judaism all along i

00:50:11.060 didn't know and I think what was really cool was so we had our moment and then we went back to like

00:50:17.820 life is we knew it I went to college and then I came out to work on the show right and we were

00:50:25.360 like and it was such a weird thing because it was like I was the boss's daughter and yet I didn't

00:50:31.440 even know what that meant yet because we were still like finding a language and how to even do

00:50:37.400 that we we threw it all in there girl we were like working together also working through our

00:50:43.180 own stuff and I think that you know I didn't understand that post reunion you still go through

00:50:50.800 the same growth that you would yeah but now I'm 20 in the toddler phase and so we had all of that

00:50:58.800 we were going through it we didn't I don't even think we understood some of that but you taking

00:51:05.160 me to the kabbalah center not only just to awaken myself but to give us a language

00:51:10.420 yeah that's true huh was so important because then we could work through our stuff through that

00:51:16.580 yeah um and create our own but i don't think people taught like it is a whole new language

00:51:24.240 it's a whole new reality and a whole new connection but actually it's just a clarification

00:51:31.080 of what you always knew but didn't have the roots i love that it's it's outside of the mind control

00:51:37.280 cage it's the actual reality of how things actually work with god at the head it's true

00:51:44.540 and you know they they've taken that from us but of course some of us have taken it back and

00:51:51.560 you know we we really want to share it with people because we're supposed to do that

00:51:56.280 right but now it's like so dark and there's so many people saying terrible things about

00:52:02.140 judaism torah and jews and they're not even true but they're shoving it down people's

00:52:08.400 lies historical lies uh theological lies um why do you think why do you think well because god 0.82

00:52:17.920 says in torah that he created this realm this earth to be the place where good and evil would

00:52:24.520 battle it out to the end and that good wins right but what do you think

00:52:31.240 people are scared of because i think the such the bigger part of the narrative is

00:52:39.160 who people are listening to and why and it's not the proud jews it's the people who hate us and

00:52:44.760 that's how they're learning what judaism is and the october 7th and the holocaust that we have

00:52:50.980 made our story are not our story that's the story of people who want to harm us we need to be able

00:52:57.460 to tell our own jewish joy stories of what actually judaism brings to the world and they

00:53:03.480 don't want us to do that why do you think and we need to and we keep we keep on our back foot like 0.81

00:53:10.460 you know trying to defend and this and that so that we don't ever get to that i don't that's

00:53:15.300 you don't but i don't a lot of people do you're strong in and i appreciate how strong you are

00:53:21.460 because i know history and i know the truth and uh you know i know what was done and i i know

00:53:28.920 and and there's archaeological proof it's scientific fact right and they are not for fact

00:53:35.900 they are not for truth and uh you know they it's demonic it is demonic that's what it is because

00:53:43.940 satan hates the jews satan hates the jews because we are god's people yeah and of course he's going

00:53:53.320 to try to destroy us it's in my show in the book of job the book of job explains it all

00:53:58.820 but what do you think they're like no one tries to suppress something so much unless they're scared

00:54:05.460 of what it carries as what i think well they are scared of what it carries because it carries a one

00:54:13.020 uh it carries oh my god i have to be responsible for the things i think it is and the things i do

00:54:22.480 it's me it's not them right i am them and them are me right and i've got to stop this 0.93

00:54:34.880 this bullshit it's satanic it's demonic it's uh you know there's a right and there's wrong 0.98

00:54:43.820 period always and they are all about double standards and that's how you know when it's 1.00

00:54:51.640 satanic when it singles out the jew it's satanic when it singles out anybody if you're not consistent 0.93

00:54:59.420 in your beliefs, you're demonic. 0.83

00:55:01.820 I know, it is singling out anybody, 0.99

00:55:04.400 but it's usually the Jews. 1.00

00:55:05.800 Well, and also, that's unique.

00:55:08.460 That's something you really care about,

00:55:09.800 but I see that as a pattern in human nature.

00:55:12.100 If you're treating one group differently than every other,

00:55:15.480 you're under satanic mind control.

00:55:16.920 Yeah, double standards. 0.56

00:55:19.120 Double standards. 1.00

00:55:19.980 Jews are just the most recent example, in my opinion. 1.00

00:55:22.780 It's not just recent, it's ancient. 1.00

00:55:25.920 And it's like when Jews behave like human beings, 1.00

00:55:29.420 that is satanic that's how they think yeah when jews behave like human beings and not like uh 0.97

00:55:38.380 they imagine a chosen people would be uh then they get very angry because i think they think that a

00:55:47.900 if a people was truly chosen they would be superhuman but no no well this i think it's

00:55:55.820 really interesting with the chosen because for me it's like i've got a double dose the adoption

00:56:01.740 and the jewish story yeah around chosen or yeah because you're choosing yeah because adoptive

00:56:08.320 parents choose right and then not knowing my history or roots like if it was a one question

00:56:15.540 that's different than every single year with the physicals like it was in my face like you don't 0.60

00:56:22.420 know this you don't know this and then the Jewish thing right but I think people it's chosen for a 0.73

00:56:30.160 mission as is every other soul it isn't chosen above and I think it got a rewrite from bad

00:56:38.480 actors but it's chosen for a mission everybody's chosen for a mission I was going to say that

00:56:45.300 about the goy word um it actually means gentiles and as my teacher told me the definition of

00:56:55.740 gentile is a gentle soul they are not in uproar and a self-war like we jews are yeah and so that's

00:57:07.520 what it means and i'm sick of them saying that we hate no gentiles or that we hate we understand

00:57:12.460 And everybody has their mission.

00:57:14.400 We know our war is within and amongst our own. 1.00

00:57:17.860 I like Gentiles more than Jews, to be honest with you. 1.00

00:57:19.760 Well, most of us do. 1.00

00:57:21.060 They're way cooler.

00:57:22.360 Well, they're gentle.

00:57:23.700 Yeah.

00:57:24.200 Well, they're better in a lot of ways.

00:57:26.160 But they can be led astray very easily, which we're seeing in America right now.

00:57:33.100 Well, let me give you an example.

00:57:34.260 This is where it is.

00:57:35.180 People get confused when we talk about double standards.

00:57:37.420 We just saw this report in the UK.

00:57:39.720 250,000 children raped 0.91

00:57:42.420 by Islamists 1.00

00:57:44.020 yeah by Islamic rape gangs 1.00

00:57:45.680 it's been covered by the government 1.00

00:57:47.800 they didn't want to appear Islamophobic 0.86

00:57:49.660 the only reason I'm bringing it up is

00:57:51.160 everyone that I look at that's anti-Jew 0.82

00:57:53.600 because I deal with the woke Reich a lot 0.92

00:57:55.400 they're like Epstein and this human trafficking 1.00

00:57:58.180 Jews rape children 1.00

00:57:59.620 well here's a clear example 1.00

00:58:01.640 just like the Vatican did

00:58:02.900 it's cover up of child trafficking 0.80

00:58:04.900 child sex trafficking

00:58:05.760 everybody's guilty no group gets away 0.99

00:58:08.280 but all they talk about now is the Jew. 0.97

00:58:10.860 And in the old days, 9-11 is an example.

00:58:12.700 We knew Bush was behind it.

00:58:14.760 We knew the neocons were behind it.

00:58:16.140 We knew about PNAC. 1.00

00:58:17.220 Now it's the Jew. 1.00

00:58:18.540 And all this stuff where we're like, 1.00

00:58:20.160 oh, there's bad here, bad here. 1.00

00:58:21.700 Now it's been replaced by the Jew. 1.00

00:58:24.100 And that's the catch-all for them. 1.00

00:58:25.640 Gee, where does that come from? 1.00

00:58:27.200 That's mind control from fucking German, 1.00

00:58:29.480 MKUltra mind control. 1.00

00:58:31.300 And that's why you're satanic.

00:58:32.520 And where does that originate? 0.94

00:58:35.340 From Satan, I would assume.

00:58:37.280 Well, I don't know.

00:58:37.860 Is this rhetoric?

00:58:39.880 Well, it does originate from Satan.

00:58:42.540 I think so.

00:58:43.560 Yeah.

00:58:44.040 And that's why we're pushing back.

00:58:45.700 That's why I always try and bring it here. 0.81

00:58:47.780 It's not a Jew or poetry thing for me.

00:58:49.800 It's like I don't want to see people fall for demonic mind control that I love. 0.99

00:58:55.060 I don't give a fuck if you're a Christian or Jew or Muslim. 1.00

00:58:57.380 If you're falling for this double standard, you're falling for mind control. 1.00

00:59:01.660 You're falling for demonic mind control.

00:59:03.280 You are now a part of a demonic system.

00:59:05.440 You're using the Jews as your moral hostages, and that is not going to go well for you. 0.97

00:59:14.120 And you're ignoring a proven child rape trafficking organization that just came out. 0.95

00:59:20.340 Well, you know why they're ignoring it.

00:59:21.720 Did Tucker mention it? Did Candace mention it?

00:59:23.900 Have you seen anyone in the woke right mention this?

00:59:27.140 Well, they're all working for the organization that owns all of it. 0.86

00:59:31.300 And, you know, they say Epstein, Epstein and every other Jewish name they can throw out there. 0.96

00:59:36.640 But the fact is, as I've said for how many years now, Epstein would be jack shit and have gotten nowhere if it weren't for the royal family, specifically Andrew and some say the king himself. 0.96

00:59:51.980 and all the other royals who gave epstein the keys to the city of london where he perpetuated 0.96

01:00:00.080 the greatest fraud on the working class of all the world and uh so you know it's always the royals

01:00:08.940 that you know push the jews out to the hungry dogs of the street like okay you're talking about 0.96

01:00:15.140 tucker he's an anglican that that's a you know imperialist uk thing um nepo baby as dan yeah 0.97

01:00:25.760 and uh you know the pope he's in bed with city of london he launders money for him he controls 0.99

01:00:31.940 the un and anti-semitic devil worshiping organization which i'm so glad trump destroyed 0.94

01:00:39.240 it's horrible candace is married to a lord yeah uh-huh she is a baroness and they're all 1.00

01:00:46.700 friggin royals and you know they just feed us bullshit yeah day and night and then put a jew 0.99

01:00:53.040 in the window yeah well you know trump knows it too and that is why trump has done everything 1.00

01:01:01.140 he's done and he broke

01:01:03.100 him. I hope so. And it's

01:01:04.760 actually quite

01:01:07.060 messianic that he did so.

01:01:09.440 I hope so. He's scaring me lately but that's

01:01:11.040 another episode. I know

01:01:13.260 you think that but no it's

01:01:15.240 not Trump it's God.

01:01:17.460 Well that's what I want to bring

01:01:18.740 you back to.

01:01:20.960 I'll be right back.

01:01:23.360 What do you think

01:01:24.600 so to me

01:01:26.740 as I'm looking at the world 1.00

01:01:28.920 um Judaism is the medicine that the world needs how do we how do we get that out there instead of

01:01:39.200 saying what's wrong and um who's doing what and all that yes I think you guys speak to that very

01:01:48.380 well week you know on this podcast but what is your message more to the medicine that Judaism

01:01:56.800 provides the world because I see it all the time I see it with the weekly Torah portions I see it

01:02:02.980 with Rosh Chodesh with the women with the Shekinah like I think there's just anytime there's a

01:02:10.060 suppression of thought or ideas to me there's like oh well there's something really in indigenous

01:02:17.240 communities and wisdom with women with Jews we have the medicine the world needs yeah and they're 1.00

01:02:25.260 scared of it and it is about women it's all about it's all about women and um that's why they don't 1.00

01:02:32.220 like it because israel is the liberator of women right and they don't like it they don't even see 0.91

01:02:40.640 it do they no they're under such heavy satanic mind control that they would call the liberator 0.83

01:02:47.600 the worst nation the liberator of women in that whole region uh-huh in yeah and then i mean as

01:02:55.800 the seed of that everywhere of all three abrahamic religions that are you know two of which are

01:03:02.480 incredibly anti-women so how do you see this balance we're so out of balance because

01:03:09.240 the male has taken over right the shekinah has been in exile how do we no that's not true 0.66

01:03:16.680 okay tell me the male the male is the one who channels the male is the one who raises her

01:03:24.660 okay so what do we need that's why i went like you know on the holidays when the men

01:03:29.840 have to dress in white and lay flat on the floor when the women don't

01:03:34.800 the men have to humble themselves more in order to accept uh 0.58

01:03:40.440 And the fact that that is up to them to raise the female and the mother to save, protect, honor the mother, their mother.

01:04:02.700 And, you know, but women are the wild card.

01:04:06.600 that's the whole story of well that's the whole story of 1.3 billion women right well like i told 0.88

01:04:14.240 jake the day that the women in gaza said f you to hamas and went to the israeli corridors

01:04:20.420 i knew that was huge and it is huge iran woke up all the men too in and they are now like uh you

01:04:28.420 know demonstrating against hamas in the streets of gaza it's the higher intelligence and the same

01:04:34.960 with you know why i lost my job because i was communicating with women journalists in iran about 0.97

01:04:41.980 the shit fucking deadly satanic iran deal of obama and valerie jarrett and i did want to ask you that 0.97

01:04:50.620 how did you feel when your mother was uh fired and the whole jewish humiliation routine i had 1.00

01:04:59.500 the gauntlet how did you feel it was rough because you and i had been at the up fronts a few weeks

01:05:05.140 before all that when they were celebrating you and it was all a big thing and and you know i worked

01:05:11.860 i was working in peace building but also kind of in media so like when the show came back it was

01:05:18.380 so important because middle america's voice had you know all this stuff with sinclair news and it

01:05:24.980 was obvious like certain sound bites were being put out from and both coasts were you know um kind

01:05:32.620 of in charge of that narrative and a lot of people in middle america from your original show just

01:05:38.700 didn't have a voice and felt that and were the punch line and joke instead of being listened to

01:05:45.700 what they were going through and it was a hard time and now they call them the uh racist trump

01:05:50.880 supporters right and so that's like the framing right so when the when the reboot came I was so

01:06:00.320 excited because you could tell they were like oh someone's talking to us and not talking down but

01:06:05.920 like actually having a conversation um because when we work together like anyway I think there

01:06:15.020 were certain things that changed in hollywood in terms of like more diversity of different groups

01:06:21.300 and colors but not a diversity of thought right and so just bots you know i understood

01:06:28.000 um what was happening it's the pattern recognition right and knowing you and your whole history

01:06:35.820 of who you raised up who you supported and the way that they made it into the racist thing when

01:06:42.480 it wasn't at all and it was I didn't even know how to be there for you or hold it because I could

01:06:48.540 tell what they were doing and they were trying to and it was just the juxtaposition of you and I

01:06:53.240 having just been in New York together celebrating um then the tweet hitting and then again the

01:07:00.480 the doxing of your mom's house and people like where we've gotten to in civil society that we're

01:07:07.360 like okay with these things and the canceling and all of that instead of like having a learning

01:07:12.280 moment or having a conversation and was like heartbreaking because I didn't know how to be

01:07:17.140 there for you in that moment and also I knew we as your kids couldn't say anything and that you

01:07:24.700 couldn't say anything and that the spin as we're seeing now is everybody else telling the story

01:07:30.460 instead of the actual people that could have had a voice in that moment to speak their truth they

01:07:35.960 don't allow that no they don't allow that at all and um you know whatever anyone thought like in

01:07:44.100 how you said it or the missteps or the this or the that like just the cruelty of how and these

01:07:50.840 were people that we worked on the show together who doubled down and made it way worse than it

01:07:58.440 would have ever been had they not it was the deepest like heartbreak to see like people that

01:08:04.480 i i don't know if you felt this way but like they were your family yeah you gave them careers or at

01:08:12.540 least help their careers to some extent like at the very least they could have just not said

01:08:17.140 anything well i wrote all the lines that came out of their mouth that people loved them saying

01:08:22.160 that was so hard to like and not know how to be there for you with that had to feel like just

01:08:30.920 complete utter betrayal um it did it felt like oh my god they're gonna try to kill me well it was

01:08:37.560 utter betrayal i didn't feel like it it was absolutely betrayal yeah 100 and it was weird

01:08:42.560 because you would you would think better of people that you're close to but well you would think

01:08:46.400 that know you that know your work that know decades of what you stood for what what the show was about

01:08:52.240 what the issues are like it's absolutely absurd to anyone who knows you even in the littlest bit

01:08:58.420 that that's how they painted it as a racist tweet that well it was there like uh michael

01:09:03.880 fishman's a perfect example for him it was his chance to you know virtue signal so he knew he

01:09:10.080 was doing it wrong but he was like this is an opportunity that might help me and that's the

01:09:13.520 grossest thing and that's the grossest thing people yeah like i just that's unforgivable

01:09:19.140 goodman and and and and you know maybe laurie they're kind of kept quiet i didn't like it they

01:09:24.720 should have stood up for mom but at least they were kind of quiet right for someone like fishman

01:09:29.180 or sarah that was hard or whitney to go out there and be like oh this is my chance to talk about this

01:09:33.080 on a podcast and built my name that's the grossest thing i've ever seen i'm not even mad about it

01:09:37.840 anymore i'm disgusted which is worse than that well it's hard i thought it was just uh you know

01:09:43.920 i was so glad you know that i was a jew and that i had all that in me to hang tight yeah um because

01:09:52.940 if i didn't have that i don't think i would have lived i had that like you're walking through the

01:09:59.100 fire right now but um there's a reason for it and uh you helped you helped the women in iran

01:10:09.660 and that's all i wanted to do with that tweet and it did yeah and i saw evidence of that every

01:10:17.160 single day more getting stronger and stronger and now you know just now i was thinking people

01:10:24.480 might be able to understand what i was saying in my tweet just now just now 10 years later well

01:10:30.820 you got to ask yourself like the the people's responses and that they went to that that's their

01:10:36.320 own mirror for them to look at right why they were and why they iterated it and all of those things

01:10:42.460 but i think you're right like and you're a lot of ahead of the curve and we as your kids like

01:10:48.120 you say stuff and we're like uh well you know we're considering it but we're like

01:10:52.900 maybe not there yet and then there's always a period like a few years later we're like

01:10:57.280 oh i understand now that's gonna happen with the royals with all the stuff about the royals that's

01:11:03.300 gonna that's like your mk ultra from 20 years ago that's now mainstream the royals will start

01:11:07.720 happening how about like in 2011 when i coined the greatest hashtag ever which i see they've

01:11:14.740 scraped from x or whatever what hashtag pedo ponzi ponzi pirate priest class

01:11:26.540 i can't wait till people get that of phallic pharonic or there's more to it

01:11:32.700 Well, I want to have phallocratic feudalism.

01:11:37.600 Yeah.

01:11:38.040 Pharonic.

01:11:39.160 Well, it was phallocratic pharonic feudalism.

01:11:42.480 I kept adding.

01:11:43.600 Yeah. 1.00

01:11:43.880 It's like the LGBT is now like 40 things. 0.55

01:11:46.140 But it is that.

01:11:47.520 I want to anoint you as the... 0.92

01:11:49.880 It's the satanic. 0.92

01:11:52.060 I want to anoint you as the...

01:11:56.740 Bring more light.

01:11:57.980 Like, don't let that pull you down into a lower frequency

01:12:01.520 by spending too much time there oh it hasn't you can you know what i mean you can speak truth or

01:12:06.600 power you can say all those things but also bring the other piece which i think is so important that

01:12:11.900 i think a lot of i think it's time to start talking about judaism no almost no american

01:12:17.860 jews know a thing well it's painful to carry when you've seen what carrying it means for your family 1.00

01:12:24.080 right well but they wasn't even carrying it they was coming up with some hybrid shit that came 0.94

01:12:29.260 from a bunch of lunatics i think there are a lot more but the real stuff now october 8th 0.92

01:12:36.260 people were like oh our grandmas we thought were crazy telling us don't get too comfortable there

01:12:42.120 people are gonna turn even in rooms people are seeing it and i think um well because it's a

01:12:48.040 tactic of royal power yeah well it is a nazi playbook i mean it goes back before even then

01:12:57.520 It's an anti-Semitic playbook.

01:12:59.520 It's a eugenicist playbook. 0.99

01:13:02.080 And they've been trying to breed humans like they did with the African slaves they brought here. 0.99

01:13:08.420 Human husbandry. 1.00

01:13:09.980 Yeah, that's what it is.

01:13:10.900 They've been doing that forever.

01:13:11.960 Yeah. 1.00

01:13:12.280 Epstein was doing that shit. 1.00

01:13:13.740 Yes, he was. 1.00

01:13:14.980 Yeah.

01:13:15.420 I think for me.

01:13:15.960 And why?

01:13:16.620 Because the royals helped set him up to do it. 0.98

01:13:20.340 Because they are Nazis. 0.96

01:13:22.100 Let's be real. 1.00

01:13:22.920 They're German. 1.00

01:13:23.820 They're not English, for fuck's sake. 1.00

01:13:25.940 they set up all these fake countries just so they can have war and sell weapons 0.99

01:13:30.320 i mean that's a lot of it i think that i think

01:13:33.960 i've been really going deep with the god just wants us to witness it to be brave enough to

01:13:42.960 open your eyes and witness what's right in front of you and people cannot do it they go and they 0.97

01:13:48.900 give them an easy out look at the jews but hey look at how power works look how it works you 0.63

01:13:58.140 to tell you the answers are outside of you that's how it works i think i'd love to hear more about 0.53

01:14:07.440 like the pattern recognition that we see but also the understanding that

01:14:14.920 we also have the antidote well we do absolutely it's not only to be able to recognize but then

01:14:22.480 what do we do and i think people don't realize you know people ask here's like what would you do

01:14:28.540 during the holocaust like people ask these questions what would i have done whatever

01:14:33.520 you're doing now because you're buying the same thing yeah and wherever i know what i would have 0.94

01:14:39.760 done had i been there tell me i would have shot every jew in power who spoke for me yeah i would 0.99

01:14:52.320 have shot them in their beds just like the maccabees was going there no just like the 0.99

01:15:00.140 maccabees did that's how the maccabees won they snuck down from out of the mountains using 0.94

01:15:07.060 bonfires bows and arrows and they shot the colluding high priest of the temple

01:15:14.860 right through the neck and then paraded his head around on a stick yeah and the romans or

01:15:21.680 i mean it was the greeks then ran in horror because i mean you can't get more real than that 1.00

01:15:28.980 yeah it's like was it proportionate fuck you you're trying to kill me i'm gonna kill you yeah 1.00

01:15:37.980 i'm gonna kill you before you kill me because that's what god told me to do fuck you why did 1.00

01:15:46.060 you look at the camera for that so they can see my eyes fuck y'all you don't even know but if this 1.00

01:15:52.420 if this iteration of anti-semitism and i say that because i love you sorry brandy what we said 0.99

01:15:58.580 we're getting say what if if it's the same iteration in the same pattern right for anti-semitism 0.98

01:16:04.980 jew hatred however we want to say it for the times it's we have to kill our leaders who collude 0.99

01:16:13.180 with our genocidal enemies i agree with that's one yeah okay well let's not kill them because 0.99

01:16:20.640 i don't want to go to prison but i what i do on shabbat is i pray against them that they be removed

01:16:28.560 Not that they die, but they'd be removed and replaced with a person of conscience.

01:16:34.540 Hmm.

01:16:35.620 That would be great.

01:16:37.260 That would be great. 1.00

01:16:38.140 Because the Jews, we do have the antidote, 1.00

01:16:42.420 and the antidote is in Jewish meditation and prayer. 1.00

01:16:48.900 That's what it's about.

01:16:51.760 Prayer.

01:16:52.280 Like the transmutation, the transformation.

01:16:56.700 Connecting heaven and earth. 1.00

01:16:58.560 uh arousing the upper court the upper world hear you not not sit there babbling asking for shit 0.99

01:17:11.320 when you pray but to actually ask to be a living channel of your source 0.90

01:17:20.520 there's nothing more fun than that it's pretty great it's pretty fun

01:17:26.540 can i ask you a quick question that's i know we're in a good zone but i don't want to forget it

01:17:32.100 you meeting me and my sister oh yeah oh shit that's the best because that was a time i was a

01:17:39.880 time okay you were you were in dallas at this point right so yes yeah so do you mind if we do

01:17:45.500 this i just wanted it i love it this is really hilarious so i asked her that and she never

01:17:50.320 answered we do we went off i'm here that's why i'm here relief i appreciate you bringing it back

01:17:54.280 That's why I'm here, baby.

01:17:55.680 Okay.

01:17:56.600 So after you're not like me at all, but in that you don't go off on tantrum.

01:18:01.480 Yes, she does. 1.00

01:18:02.100 Brandy never shuts the fuck up. 1.00

01:18:03.340 It was sarcastic. 1.00

01:18:05.600 I know.

01:18:06.300 I was like, how the house is seven of us this week with all the ADHD and neurodiversions.

01:18:11.620 It's going to be fun.

01:18:12.840 I'm here to keep everyone on.

01:18:14.780 That's what he thinks.

01:18:15.720 But anyway, so we love you for that.

01:18:18.820 And you are in these moments.

01:18:20.260 You are that for sure.

01:18:21.040 In every moment in history.

01:18:23.080 Since the beginning of time.

01:18:23.760 tell about meeting your siblings so i go uh it's my first time to come out and meet the siblings

01:18:31.840 i'm so excited uh i and anyway i think you guys had a house in renting a house in malibu yeah

01:18:40.300 so i show up and i'm i mean what does one pack from texas when you're going to meet your

01:18:47.700 didn't you have a white leather jacket with the oh my god y'all contempo casual lace matching

01:18:54.880 shorts with lace on the bottom and this jacket like cowboy hat all white no frosted brownie

01:19:01.020 lipstick the the texas you know 80s hair it was i probably killed the ozone layer myself in the

01:19:07.420 80s texas and whatever and i show up and jess is in her goth face before it was cool yeah all black

01:19:16.040 like so the juxtaposition of the all white i was there whatever yeah well i'm getting to you

01:19:21.180 and then the you know with the and you could only see one eye yeah like and it was all you know and

01:19:28.180 pale so and then you were what 11 yeah i was 11 when you and i met but go to jenny next but you

01:19:36.380 ran for me because you were like i don't know who this is yeah i was weird like you and i was like

01:19:40.960 sitting in the house and mom would like leave the room and just try to give jess and i time

01:19:48.060 and we were just sitting in silence like we were like what is happening so then we're talking real

01:19:54.300 goth i mean real god like creepy oh yeah emo is watered it was like you must you didn't know what

01:20:01.400 language she was going to speak if she did i mean it was like a whole thing and we were looking at

01:20:06.020 each other like what could i possibly say to here's your sister so then we tom is like we're

01:20:13.640 gonna go meet jenny um so we get in the car and we're like he's we're driving a hundred miles an

01:20:20.480 hour up highway whatever the pacific coast highway like people are trying to run us off the road the 0.99

01:20:26.020 heyday of still all of that with them anyway we show up and jenny is in a lockdown facility

01:20:35.440 mental hospital mental okay i'll let you guys say that i'm trying to find the pc term she'll be here

01:20:40.980 later this week she can tell this story too so next week next week we okay so we walk in

01:20:47.240 and all of a sudden i just see jenny this sweet little angel like well not little she's like 300

01:20:52.640 pounds at this point jake tell the truth i'm telling my story and you will not slander my

01:20:59.360 sister your sister okay so she's like runs up to me puts her arms around me

01:21:05.900 she's like Jake he's so horrible hugs me she's like oh my god my long-lost

01:21:14.420 sister I'm so happy to meet you and I'm looking and I'm going why is she locked

01:21:18.260 up she seems the most normal of like everyone and then so we have our little

01:21:24.560 moment like instant whatever and then i'm like and then tom's like we're going to family therapy

01:21:30.860 which is like my worst nightmare so i don't know if you guys knew this but like i was totally

01:21:35.960 opposed okay they tried to get me parents divorce to sit on the other side of this ginormous table

01:21:42.120 with gail shrink and i was like yeah i was like no there's no way there's gonna be any confidence

01:21:47.740 here and this is no thank you and then the other was when my brother had some issues with substance

01:21:54.220 abuse we'd go to family therapy in a lockdown facility like this one and and they would it

01:22:00.840 never ended well yeah so I'm like well okay I mean I had some context but I'm like literally

01:22:08.140 the first time meeting you and you're like cowering like you couldn't make eye contact

01:22:11.800 with me and the whole nine so we go in and I was like okay well it'll probably just be a

01:22:16.680 continuation of family therapy like they're not gonna call on me it's not gonna be a thing like

01:22:22.080 I don't know what where you left off and where so the doctor is like well how does everyone feel

01:22:29.000 to have brandy with us and I was like are you shitting me right now like I'm looking for a hole

01:22:34.120 in the ground to it was the whole session was and she could tell like none of us have talked 0.63

01:22:40.260 none of us like she started to set up play dates for each of us during that week she's like well

01:22:46.980 You'll go walk on the beach.

01:22:48.400 Obviously, I can't, you know, with Jenny.

01:22:50.480 And she had Jess and I. 1.00

01:22:52.280 Because she couldn't walk. 0.97

01:22:53.800 Oh, my God, Jenny. 0.92

01:22:55.480 Stop it. 0.99

01:22:56.220 Jenny. 0.74

01:22:56.840 We're going to hog tie him when you come here tomorrow. 0.99

01:22:59.100 She'd get harpooned. 1.00

01:22:59.640 He's so fat. 0.99

01:23:02.040 That's why he says all this. 0.94

01:23:05.920 Projection.

01:23:06.420 But anyway, we'll talk about that later.

01:23:11.200 Yeah, we should. 1.00

01:23:12.400 I'm going to have Jenny sit there. 1.00

01:23:14.000 And she's, anyway. 1.00

01:23:14.800 Jenny will have to sit over there.

01:23:15.900 she's gonna take him down when she comes in she probably so i don't know should i tell this part

01:23:20.680 of jess's story or do you want her okay so she was going to a can you fill in the gap of what

01:23:28.140 the meeting was a a i guess we'll just say that i don't want to anyway and the and the doctor's

01:23:34.840 like well you'll go with her so the nanny at the time drives we're still have not barely spoken

01:23:43.240 to this meeting and they all think I'm there like to be part of this get the chip the first day

01:23:49.640 whole thing right and I was like okay well I guess I'll do whatever I'm supposed to do because I'm

01:23:54.480 trying to bond with my sister and uh it was the most horribly uncomfortable and it was like all

01:24:01.980 these kids of Hollywood celebs and people that have been through it at a very young age I'm very

01:24:08.620 pristine still a virgin like i don't you know and i'm feeling bad being a voyeur to these stories

01:24:14.360 that i shouldn't be hearing but they're like here's your one day chip i'm like so we go outside

01:24:19.040 and i'm standing there and jess is like smoking a cigarette and her girlfriend comes over and we

01:24:24.980 still haven't really like even like had a moment to like it's so funny so her friend comes over

01:24:33.900 and she's like who's this and jess is like my long-lost sister and i'm like oh my god like if

01:24:40.860 it couldn't even be more awkward and i was like can i have a smoke because this is like and we

01:24:45.920 bonded like over the cigarette the whole way home we're like and the they're like what happened and

01:24:53.620 it was like oh well maybe she's not that good girl because she had a cigarette with me and from then

01:24:57.980 on but it's just so funny see cigarettes have really healed the plant no you're still we're

01:25:04.240 still gonna make you quit but and then we had our walk on the beach like so it was kind of

01:25:09.100 lovely but also like oh shit what are we all in for in this and it was and now i mean cut to now

01:25:16.160 you have your own child yeah so this is what's wild and i i've loved watching you with ari the 0.71

01:25:23.940 i mean always but like now that he's 19 and you guys can like relate like in a whole different

01:25:29.940 way and he's has like your sense of humor there's so many things like i've just been waiting for

01:25:34.840 this moment but also what i didn't really think about is the multi-generational aspect of adoption

01:25:44.500 because he started asking these questions like all kids do trying to figure out like

01:25:49.820 who is what and what tree and but he was asking in a way that to me because i'm trying to heal it

01:25:56.860 as we're doing it and find new language and words and different definitions i mean the

01:26:02.860 immute immutes the the hebrew word for um adoption is to strengthen really yeah and i was like oh

01:26:11.900 and but he would ask these questions like who's my real and like he didn't mean anything by it

01:26:18.060 young kid but for me those words i had replaced real bio adopted like it was just you know it

01:26:27.520 took a while for us to get there but like how do i tell him this story so no one's more than less

01:26:33.640 than right and you don't even think about those moments where you have this gift to write it

01:26:41.140 differently so that he doesn't do that right and he was like well who's blood and who's this and

01:26:46.540 I'm like who's real who's not and Stan and the line and you and and I didn't want him judging

01:26:54.520 anyone for any of it or any choices made or um well is Stan less because he's not biological is

01:27:02.540 is Roseanne more because she is and like what words I mean it's so deep to go to each one of

01:27:10.620 those like we had those conversations that went on and on and i think i hope i mean you could ask him

01:27:17.440 i hope that we were the cycle breakers for our family in that where he doesn't carry and i don't

01:27:23.800 think he does um he loves everyone and he's so blessed to have he had a nana a nani a granny

01:27:31.540 a babushka i mean it was a lot for him to but also he's really lucky wow the bridge so he's 0.99

01:27:40.020 now another bridge right between

01:27:41.640 all the families and so blessed to

01:27:44.080 and I think we don't

01:27:46.080 talk enough about

01:27:47.460 that. I love

01:27:50.020 how he's all fucking 0.98

01:27:51.160 just like me too 1.00

01:27:54.220 he's ADHD

01:27:55.720 CI whatever

01:27:57.380 I know but we have a

01:27:59.840 shorthand language I'm like

01:28:01.280 get over there and do it

01:28:03.320 and he did he sat and played for

01:28:05.960 an hour he was learning that song for you

01:28:07.920 and I was like cool 1.00

01:28:09.120 yeah it's a shorthand we all need a little bossing around from granny i mean it's just

01:28:14.800 great for me this is my story that a story of miracles for for a girl uh who had it kind of

01:28:24.760 rough growing up and believed all along that god would uh make everything come out for the best

01:28:32.620 um and of course he did and it's just more proof of how lucky i am to have a connection to him

01:28:43.960 amen amen amen and i love you i love you are so gorgeous i'm so thrilled with the way i did

01:28:53.260 your makeup as i think you're looking i mean i saw you doing your eyes things um glad to be the

01:29:02.280 what a great conversation baby well i want to hear more about how you got through that each

01:29:08.320 time each iteration i don't know if we're at time or whatever but like you said something that really

01:29:15.100 stuck with me even during that time but the show and the canceling and the whatever like you knew

01:29:21.340 you could get through it because of judaism because of hashem and i think a lot of people

01:29:27.000 out there need that a lot of people are hurting they don't understand why do they hate us so much

01:29:31.860 what's the targeting what what are the pieces and parts of judaism like beyond just the pattern

01:29:37.760 recognition what is the what are the tools and i would love to hear you talk more about maybe one

01:29:43.980 that helped you through that time that feels like because they're to me they're all tools

01:29:50.180 shabbat is a tool yeah the moon cycle is a tool the parasha the weekly parashas are tools

01:29:56.300 the tree of life but like what was it for you that really helped you get through that well the

01:30:02.980 one thing that judaism why it's so fantastic is that it teaches us that there is nothing but god

01:30:12.600 and that's how i got through you know it looks like you're you're suffering you're going down

01:30:18.640 you're having a rough time that's so you can learn so you can grow and you will grow because

01:30:25.800 there is nothing but god and there's only one everything and he always wins and what do you

01:30:34.460 of course he wins he created everything he wrote the story yeah what do you think of course he's

01:30:39.500 going to win in the story he wrote right but what do you're very lucky to be able to read that story

01:30:47.440 and understand it with, what, 6,000 years of memory bank.

01:30:53.220 So we won't let them define who we are by their satanic definitions.

01:30:59.520 We will hold fast to the creator, the creator of all life.

01:31:14.800 It's just great.

01:31:16.040 i'm excited to go and be teaching with you and to be getting this out there we're going to teach

01:31:22.500 because we think well when darkness is you know when darkness is getting strong we do have the

01:31:29.520 antidote we do have the light uh we'll teach people to go to the wall and flip the switch

01:31:35.500 because that technology does exist in torah and um

01:31:40.840 yeah there's a big

01:31:47.860 big change coming

01:31:49.200 and of course

01:31:51.660 God's behind it

01:31:53.240 and everybody's going to come home to God

01:31:55.940 Amen

01:31:58.620 Amen

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The Roseanne Barr Podcast - June 26, 2026

＂My Long Lost Daughter, Brandi＂｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #140

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The Roseanne Barr Podcast - June 26, 2026

＂My Long Lost Daughter, Brandi＂ ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #140

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＂My Long Lost Daughter, Brandi＂｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #140