Rudy Giuliani ｜ The Roseanne Barr Podcast #023
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1 hour and 11 minutes
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174.52187
Summary
Mayor Rudy Giuliani talks the day after the 9/11 terrorist attacks in the United States and how he and his staff responded to the massive fire that broke out on the West Side of Manhattan on the morning of September 11th, 2001. He also talks about the heroic actions of the first responders who rushed to the scene of the attacks and the people who came to the aid of those trapped beneath the rubble. He also shares a story that is not as well known as it should be and talks about how a volunteer firefighter helped save the lives of a woman who was trapped below the rubble of a building on the other side of the destroyed World Trade Center building. He tells the story of how he pulled her to safety and what he did to keep her alive in the aftermath of the attack and the response to the rescue efforts to save the other victims who were trapped in the rubble below the skyscrapers and other buildings on the top floors of the building. Greetings, Earthlings. I m really excited to have Rudy Giuliani on the show today. I love you, I m so proud of you, and I m grateful you are here! Thank you for being here. Love ya. R.Bryan & R.A.B. Thank you, R.S. - Roseanne - R. BANNER R-Roseanne Barr TALKING TO ME ABOUT THIS PODCAST AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I HAVE EVER TALKED TO ME AND THE FASTEST PERSON IN MY LIFE AND THE PEOPLE I MEETED AND MEETING WITH ME AND MY FAMILY AND GIVING ME PRICING ME A BECAUSE I GET TO HEARENERGY AND TALK TO ME. I LOVE YOU AND I'M SO MUCH MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE AND I WOULDN'T LET ME KNOW THE TRUTH AND I HAVE ANYTHING I'T TALK ABOUT IT'S AVAILABLE AND I M TOLD ME ABOUT IT AND I LOVE THEM AND I THOUGHT I'SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND I ME THINK THEY DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT'S DOUBT AND I TOTALLY GET TOO MUCH MORE AND THEY'LL TELL ME AND YESTERDAY'S HAPPY ABOUT IT? I LOVE ME AND HE'S GIVES ME A FRIENDS AND I KNOW I' M TALKS ABOUT IT.
Transcript
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Greetings, Earthlings. Welcome to the Roseanne Barr podcast.
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Well, I'm really excited and so relieved I have to tell you about the family drama we went through
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with the nervousness of having the guest I have today,
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who I'm very excited to speak with and have the opportunity to hear a lot of stuff
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that we don't normally get to hear for all of us.
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The truth. Conspiracy theorists, as they like to call people who like the truth.
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Absolutely. I love you and have always loved you.
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You're terrific. You're just terrific. What a great American.
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You know, every time I just see you or hear your name, it goes back, you know, it goes back to that day.
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And it's indelibly etched there, you know, your leadership and your compassion and your ability to affect everything toward a positive outcome.
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You won't believe this, Rudy, but I was on this turn off all the media kind of meditation thing on that day.
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And so I didn't even find out about it until September 12th.
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My ex-husband called me, he goes, what do you think of all this stuff?
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And I turned it on, and, of course, it was a day later, and, you know, it was the repetition of all of these.
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Yeah, but you had the whole story of the day by that time.
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Yeah, but it was set by then, so it wasn't so chaotic as people who had seen.
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But the thing that impressed me as this person who's very obviously affected by my working class background and blue-collar people and their heroism
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and that being disrespected so often on television and at large.
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But the thing that I was so moved by was here was all these Wall Street guys in their suits.
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And they were just holding out water to the people who do all the honest work that makes everything go.
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And I thought, oh, my, this is some amazing thing happening in our country that the people who do the work, the first responders, you know, the people who save our lives,
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they're being respected and honored by those people who so look down on them normally.
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And then I saw you, and it's just, to me, I'm going to remember that part of it because it was just so hopeful and so good,
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And here you are still in the middle of everything.
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You know, it reminds me of two things about that day, what you're saying.
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First of all, you'd be very interested in knowing a story that is known, but not as prominently as it should.
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Around 5 o'clock that afternoon, I was at the site with all of my commissioners,
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and we were trying to organize what we knew was going to be all night forever.
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So we were getting the lighting equipment in and trying to make it safe because below the ground,
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And any person standing there at that point was at risk of going into the ground.
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In fact, we had some that went in, and we had to pull them out.
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All of a sudden, I see on West Side Drive, I see a whole large number of men walking toward us.
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And as we got closer, I realized they were either highway workers or construction workers,
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So I walked up to them with my police commissioner and fire commissioner,
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and it was a guy who was a leader, and I said, what are you doing here?
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I said, well, you know, to volunteer, you've got to be a fireman or a rescue worker,
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and you have to have the right equipment, he said, well, you can give us equipment.
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You know, what we thought was, this is the way we can contribute,
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There were construction workers who were building the skyscrapers.
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And they came to put themselves in a place where it was a 20% chance you were going to lose your life if you went in there.
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And they said, you know, we never use any kind of protection.
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I said, no, I'm going to get your protection, but you can't imagine what this has done for our morale.
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I saw all the firefighters that were working, looking up, and it's like,
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I guess it's like in a movie where you see the cavalry coming to save you.
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They weren't like firefighters, police officers, soldiers.
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And they're all pretty much working class families.
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My family were four police officers and a fire captain, my uncles.
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The second one that I think you'd appreciate is the fact that from the very, very beginning,
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it was clear that this was an attack on not just New York, but on America.
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And I was not sure in the first couple of hours whether America could handle it.
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Could this generation do what two generations ago did in the Second World War?
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And around the same time I saw that picture, someone showed me, I didn't see the scene live,
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they showed me the picture of the firefighters putting up a flag, and they had debris, they
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had debris below them, and it looked like Iwo Jima.
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And I looked at that, and I said, they got the same blood.
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These are the sons and grandsons and great-grandsons of the people who went through World War II
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And when you think about it, even now, those are the people we ignore.
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If we don't listen to them, you go talk to them, and they're ready to go do anything
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Well, that's why I want to talk to you, because people are saying that people are so soft here,
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and maybe they have been softened up, at least the ones we see.
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But I reminded them of, what is it called, Jake Dunkirk?
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So I think we're at such a scary time in our country, it takes us back to there.
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Of course, I want to talk to you about all that.
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If you go into the middle of America, which is most of America, except the one that makes
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noise, the part that makes noise, if you go into the middle of America, it's no different.
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They don't want their children taken away from them and have the state bring them up
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Frankly, they're as anti-Marxists and anti-communists as they've always been.
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The difference is that a lot of our Democrat leadership has become, I mean, they're following
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And they're following it as if, you know, as if it were the Bible.
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It's their Bible because it's like a religion to them, except it's an anti-religion.
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And they believe they are each individually God.
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Well, they live in a fantasy world that doesn't exist on the planet.
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But like I say, my parents were, you know, I guess they were first immigrant born Jewish
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American immigrants, and they were all socialists.
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I mean, but like I say, and I was raised that way too, but it was a different socialist because
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that one was about building a middle class, a safety net, and decent pay as, you know, in
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a union, this has nothing to do whatsoever with labor rights.
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And so I began to crack that programming, and it was painful.
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And I mean, to see, for me, I ran as president for president in 2012 on a socialist thing because
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But I was like, well, let's get naked if we're going to talk about socialism, not that fake
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And I confronted all of that as a real socialist, right?
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And then I saw what was frightening to me was the amount of Jew-hating that was within the left.
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It was just starting, and everywhere I would go in America to speak about, you know, Americans
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and profit sharing, which, you know, in some way they could say is a socialist thing, but
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So everywhere I would go to speak, these people who were American, they would, their first question
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to me was, what about the Israeli, like robots, what about the Israeli occupier of the West
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Bank and the Palestinian homeland, what about that, what is your, and their voice would be
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And I'd say, excuse me, what about stand your, what do you know about stand your ground gun
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Because that was around the Trayvon Martin time.
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I go, what do you actually know about the law in your community that controls your entire
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And they'd be like, don't try to say, change the subject from the racist apartheid state of
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And plus I had a Muslim woman as my campaign manager and somebody from nation of, a man
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from nation of Islam here in America who was a pro-American Muslim man who did all these
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great things in Texas for children and education.
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And, and a black, a black woman as my also campaign manager.
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Well, they, these white people on the left, they got in their face and they said, they
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called them not the right kind of Arab, not the right kind of black man, not the right
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And, and my platform was very much a populist platform.
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Then I, you know, I had interviewed Trump in 1998 on my talk show and I told him at the
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And we all three debated because back in that time it was legal to debate and converse.
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We were talking about capitalism versus, uh, you know, all we're talking about economic
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He flattened big fat Michael, like, you know, a pancake.
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And, um, I said, you ought to run for president.
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Then I hear Trump speak and he's saying so much of what I said that I was like, oh my
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You know, it's an amazing thing that people, um, and you can understand it because he came
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up as a celebrity and they, by and large, they just trust a lot of the celebrities,
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uh, particularly people who would be inclined, you know, middle-class people.
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And, uh, but I think they picked up right away that he makes decisions the way, uh, our old
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He can be right or wrong about that, but that's what he's thinking about.
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Then he makes a decision and then you, then you worry about the political party.
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You don't start with the political parties are supposed to advance the good of America,
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I mean, uh, I'll tell you one thing that bothers the heck out of me, you know, how they want
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Anybody who had any association with slavery, uh, like, uh, George Washington, because he
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didn't, because he had slaves or, uh, uh, Jefferson who tried everything he could do to free the
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But why don't they change the name of the democratic party?
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The democratic party almost create created its, its continuation in America.
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The democratic party supported the other side of the civil war and the democratic party
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And right up until Biden, right up, right up until Biden, his best friend was a, I don't
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know, the grand poobah or whatever you call him in the Ku Klux Klan.
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So that party is completely associated with slavery.
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On the other hand, the Republican party was founded to end slavery.
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So, I mean, if they're going to go back to those days, they need a new name.
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No, Rudy, that's why they don't want to go back to those days.
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And did you see that the actual native Americans were petitioning that to bring the name back?
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If the blacks mattered, these cities that are setting records for murder, like Philadelphia
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set a record for murder two years ago, more than ever in 250 years, Chicago, Chicago on
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weekends is like a war zone of St. Louis, Baltimore.
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They were all Democratic Mayor Soros, Soros paid for DA.
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This is all because of the Democrat party and its racism because the people suffering the
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When you go to Nancy Pelosi's district, I, cause I had to go up there because my son went
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And so I'd go visit him, you know, plus I broke my knee and I had to live there for three months
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But I go outside, it was that part where, you know, downtown, everybody homeless, about
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90%, they're black on the streets in Nancy Pelosi's district.
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And then she gets down on one knee with an African scarf, I almost puked.
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They totally disfranchised and took everybody's house and they became homeless and that was
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Nancy and her husband became zillionaires based on his insider trading that other people go
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I mean, they are fabulously wealthy, but she comes out of a, she comes out of a Baltimore
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political Democrat machine that is an example of what's wrong with the old American city.
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The only thing wrong with the old American city is it's a dictatorship.
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I broke through it because first of all, the population was a little different.
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I had a, I had a real Democrats for Rudy group that was almost as strong as my Republican
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Today, Democrats in New York want to put me in jail.
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They took away my law license, the Bar Association, because they are ideological Democrats and Trump
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If you just step back from him, what does the guy do that's so bad?
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But now we look at the condition of the country.
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Those people in Ukraine would all be alive if he were president because Putin would never
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I don't think there's anybody in the world that believes that.
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Israel, I think you never would have had this happening in Israel.
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In fact, at this point, if he had been going forward with the Abraham Accords, you'd probably
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have a pretty darn good alliance between Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the other Arab states.
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And that was broken up completely by Biden because Biden's in love with Iran.
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Biden wants to say he's a friend of Israel, and he sent hundreds of millions, and he had $6 billion headed to Iran.
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You can't tell me you're my friend if you're giving $6 billion to somebody who wants to kill me.
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If I'm Bibi, I look at him and say, wait a second.
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You're giving $6 billion to a group of people who are dead.
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The most important thing to them is to destroy Israel and kill Jews.
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Pal, I know Bibi has to pretend, but deep down, he's got to know that this friend of Israel is a bunch of political crap.
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I mean, the guy is a complete supporter of Iran, just like the one who gave Iran cash, Prince Barry.
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Do you know he's the richest president we've ever had?
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You look at them and you say they really are communists.
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Because if you look at a communist party, the big top people in the communist party are millionaires and billionaires.
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So there are about 1.56 billion people in China.
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They're anywhere from upper middle class to fabulously wealthy.
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The rest of China is lower middle class or starving.
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And that's just true in every communist country.
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Thank you for watching our episode with Rudy Giuliani.
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You said I was like a lot very energetic and I'm getting more energetic.
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Yeah, I was going to ask if you were on drugs or something.
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Well, half of it is because today is my 71st birthday.
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And, you know, so that makes me happy and energetic.
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But also I feel like I'm getting a new lease on life, kind of, because of the Field of Green stuff.
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Your granny has been feeling better and playing with you more because Field of Green.
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Yeah, I have more energy to chase after her and cater to her non-ceasing demand.
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I've been noticing you've been scooping it into juice and you were talking about scooping it into wine.
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They don't recommend that they want you to do water.
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But as long as you're getting your whole, whole, whole fruits and vegetables, I'm probably happy about it.
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I feel like I have a glow or more of a lust for life, kind of healthier thing going on.
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So I think it's helping my outlook and my attitude also.
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Because I'm never going to sit there eating all the six cups of fruits and vegetables.
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I think that's why they picked you as a sponsor.
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But also, yeah, it's kind of decreasing my need for cigarettes, too.
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They've shown studies that people that smoke cigarettes, you know, it's tied to emotional
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But it's when you're nutrient deficient, nicotine craving actually becomes stronger.
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Well, I mean, according to this one thing I read on the internet years ago.
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But if you ever notice when you're really full, not stuffed, because then you have to
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smoke when you're stuffed, because then you get the stomach aches.
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But when you're actually like sate and satiated, you don't really want to smoke.
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But you know, no, but I just feel healthier and like not so sluggish.
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So maybe I don't feel like sitting around and smoking.
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I feel like running after your kid and having fun.
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Let's get back to the interview with Rudy, because it's going great.
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Look at Black Lives Matter, which is a communist organization.
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They were doing it before they were even established.
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Patrice Cullors had become a communist dignitary, wealthy person.
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He wasn't building skyscrapers and towers that could go.
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Did you know that his adopted father, Lolo Satoro, was Bush's partner
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I can't believe there's something you didn't know, Rudy.
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When you dealt with the mafia in New York, though, because that's one of the things that made
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Were they more terrifying to deal with than Democrats?
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Than Joe, who doesn't recognize the little granddaughter, who the psychological damage
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being done to that kid has got to be terrified.
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I think that she's lucky she's kept away from them.
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If I were a lawyer, I'd advise her 10 years from now, that name is going to be the worst
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The president who, except for presidents in time of war, lost the most American lives.
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The American president who almost made us a dictatorship.
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He and his administration and Obama are exactly what the founding fathers were most worried
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I mean, if you read when they go off on how this could end, they say it couldn't
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It can happen inside by a dictatorship of the majority.
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And that's why they're bringing all these people in, because they know, they know, they
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actually know they're actually going to eventually lose the black vote.
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And I have a little bit on the spectrum, the autism thing.
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My younger son used to think that was artistic.
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And because I ran for president, I know how I had some, I have inside friends.
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They had to do what they did in 2020, because so many black people voted for Trump.
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That's why they did everything, because they saw it coming, and they were like, oh, hell.
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We've lost our hold on, you know, the people we think we own.
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And they panicked, and that's why truckloads of ballots kept showing up.
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I don't disagree with you, because I watched it start when he went.
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I can't remember if it was the first speech that he gave about, you have nothing to lose.
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I went to the black and Hispanic community, where we were having over 2,000 murders a year,
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They were the people dying, not the white people.
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Every year, 8% of the murdered people in New York were white.
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So, I mean, if murder goes up, 100 murders, 70 are black.
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So, I went into the black community, and I went into the Hispanic community.
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I was running against the first black mayor of New York the first time I ran.
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And I said, you got nothing to lose voting for me.
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And not everybody picked it up, but a lot of people did.
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When he did it, it really picked up in that community.
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I think he got, and the places they picked for cheating with the crooked Democrat cities,
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Think of the places where they, he was ahead when you went to bed.
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So, he was ahead in Philadelphia, crooked Democratic city.
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He was ahead in Detroit, crooked Democratic city.
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He was ahead in Atlanta, corrupt, crooked Democratic city.
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Actually, that's the one I didn't think they could do.
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I told Newt Gingrich that when the night was over.
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I said, I think they called it just a little too late.
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I thought they had made a, you know, when they stopped the vote count?
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The minute they stopped the vote count, that's the first thing it said to me.
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And I thought maybe they waited just a little too long because technically we were far enough
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ahead in enough states that if this were the election 20 years ago, they would have called
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They would have called, he would have had a, a, um, electoral vote victory that night.
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Not just 20, uh, four years, four years before.
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Uh, but you could tell that they were in the fix because Fox calls Arizona for him after
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I used to be probably their most frequent guest.
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And not only that, I, I helped them get established.
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I gave them the radio station in New York when Turner broadcasting wouldn't put them
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We had our own, we had four, uh, cable stations and we regulate cable in New York.
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And they said, this is a violation of free speech.
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I gave them the foreign language station and they paid me four times what I was getting
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And the city made a big bundle off Rupert, but I got sued by Turner.
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And then after eight months, they settled it and Fox had New York.
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Now they keep me off because I'll go, I'll go on there.
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You know, you know, they want, they want you to go on and particularly maybe now they've
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changed a little, but you can't say stolen election.
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I was scared to even bring it up because YouTube just barely changed their rules about being
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Well, that's why Trump and everybody else is in trouble because they questioned the
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election just like Hillary did every day for four years after she won.
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And the penalty would be 20 years and I'm 79 years old.
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Fannie, Fannie, I can't remember her last name.
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The pretend district attorney in one of the most crooked counties in America wants to put
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Uh, let's compare what she's accomplished as DA and what I accomplished as a prosecutor.
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Uh, she's accomplished zero and I accomplished something, huh?
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But Rudy, you, you didn't trend on Twitter every single day talking about we got him now,
00:30:35.960
That was able to hold America's attention for since 2016.
00:30:42.960
It was completely 100%, not only untrue, invented and paid for.
00:30:51.260
One of the reasons I defended him, I volunteered to defend him was he's been my friend for 30
00:30:57.240
Uh, my son is very close to him and, uh, I was with him for the last four months of
00:31:03.260
the campaign, almost from dawn to when he went to bed.
00:31:08.640
And I knew there was no Russian collusion because if there was, I would have, I'd have felt it.
00:31:20.540
First of all, he wouldn't have thought it was wrong.
00:31:21.900
I mean, if he did it, he would have thought it was okay and, and he doesn't do anything
00:31:27.860
That's what people don't get because he, if he did, he would feel bad because he knows
00:31:35.420
I mean, I was his lawyer and he had, I, there are times, of course, it's privileged.
00:31:39.600
He would come to me and say, uh, uh, tell me, get me an opinion on what's, what's legal.
00:31:46.120
And you would give him the opinion and he would follow that.
00:31:50.120
And I remember another time when somebody recommended doing something that was outrageous
00:31:56.360
and he, I mean, he just threw them right out of the White House.
00:32:01.820
Also, there were people that stopped supporting him.
00:32:06.640
Maybe I shouldn't, uh, people that stopped supporting him because he was too hard on
00:32:11.940
And I'm talking about, I'm sure hundreds of millions basically told them in a nice way.
00:32:24.160
And they said, you know, you'd do far better if you'd soften up a little, you'd raise a
00:32:28.360
And Biden wouldn't be outraising you on the Democrats if you went a little easier on
00:32:41.280
Am I as ready to go punch them in the face and beat them up because I thought they were
00:32:47.880
I mean, I just, I just think that people don't realize, and I didn't realize until
00:32:51.960
maybe five, six years ago, how brilliantly and evil, evil, but brilliant China invaded
00:33:04.080
They own a lot of our companies because our, our companies want the profits in China because
00:33:12.940
I've been told that by Republicans and Democrats, you know, we can give up our business in America
00:33:22.420
They're making the wrong bet because they don't realize the Chinese economy has a hydrogen
00:33:30.420
And it's, it's those seven or 800 million people that can't eat.
00:33:37.320
It's just, at some point, China's going to have to do something about them if it wants
00:33:44.380
And they don't factor that into the Chinese economy.
00:33:47.700
If you factor that into the Chinese economy, it's actually an extremely weak economy.
00:33:53.900
They don't factor that into our economy either, do they?
00:33:57.220
They, they, they, they try, they try very, very hard to hurt our economy.
00:34:01.740
So we'll become part of the Soros, Klaus Schwab, Barack Obama, one world.
00:34:11.280
They're headed to all that stuff about burning down statues, burning flags, taking a knee,
00:34:20.140
I mean, Biden goes out and says America is systemically racist.
00:34:26.940
He didn't know what it meant before he became demented.
00:34:33.920
Can you imagine telling your country you're all racist?
00:34:40.040
I grew up with white kids, black kids, Irish kids, German kids, Jewish kids, Italian kids.
00:34:51.280
And when we had fights, if you were on my side, if you were on my, if the black kid was
00:34:54.800
on my side, he was the best guy in the, that's how it works in the real world.
00:35:00.160
And I, I, I just don't evaluate people on color.
00:35:03.040
And I think people who do, I think there's something wrong with them.
00:35:06.460
They do it because they don't live in integrated neighborhoods.
00:35:16.320
I think of Trump as being on the autism spectrum himself.
00:35:21.080
There's a certain way we are with like people like me and probably you too, Rudy.
00:35:28.720
Those of us who talk a lot about what's inside, well, we have to tell the truth because we'll
00:35:34.640
look like, you know, whatever we say has to be true because we don't remember if we
00:35:40.980
It'll just come out, you know, because we just have to say, say, say.
00:35:45.240
So if we're doing something bad, we'll say that too.
00:35:48.940
So we have to have a clean conscience in order to live.
00:35:58.380
He will tell stories about himself that don't make him look like perfect, like things, they're
00:36:08.980
not wrong or illegal, but things that are not flat.
00:36:19.760
I mean, you're not going to get out of him things like, you know, he went to the top of
00:36:25.200
a tree during battle and gave a and gave a medal to a to a guy who refused it.
00:36:31.540
Oh, that he was under sniper fire in Afghanistan.
00:36:34.860
And it turns out the guy, he never gave the guy, not only wasn't he there, he didn't,
00:36:42.900
He wasn't even the guy who gave the medal to this soldier who turned it down.
00:36:50.980
And the guy originally said he didn't think he was worthy, but it wasn't him.
00:36:55.160
So that thing in the White House becomes him on a battlefield almost getting killed because
00:37:01.480
I've known him since 1981, but I even employed his, one of his nieces in City Hall.
00:37:09.320
I worked on the 1994 crime bill with him, and I helped write the 1994 crime bill because
00:37:19.620
And I worked for President Reagan, who was my hero.
00:37:23.100
And his college classmate was my chief of staff.
00:37:31.140
When I got introduced to him, he brought me over and he said, I want you to meet him.
00:37:39.500
He was the dumbest guy in our law school class.
00:37:44.860
But that's why he did, because he has a chip on his shoulder.
00:37:47.820
This is a guy who grew up as the dumbest kid in the neighborhood, the dumbest kid in the
00:37:52.260
That's why you get that, I have a higher IQ than you have.
00:37:55.700
Or I was first in the class and had 35 scholarships.
00:37:58.960
Well, he was second to last, and he had no scholarships, and he got left back in the third grade,
00:38:04.780
and he failed out of law school and had to write a paper to get back in.
00:38:08.560
He plagiarized on the paper, and he charmed the dean's wife, and they let him back in.
00:38:13.100
And then the people in law school liked him because he told jokes, but didn't want to
00:38:16.520
sit next to him because he cheated on everyone, and he would get them in trouble.
00:38:20.440
So then I met him, and for a while I was convinced he was very, very charming, but exceedingly
00:38:28.120
I'd come back sometimes from a meeting with him, and I'd almost say to myself, did he really
00:38:36.840
You know, if I say he's the dumbest man in Congress, you're not going to get it.
00:38:52.340
But so that's why it's hard to tell that he's demented.
00:39:00.820
Which is part of why he got in trouble, because his words had run ahead of his mind.
00:39:08.280
But he was very, I wouldn't say articulate, but glib.
00:39:11.800
So all you have to do is go back and get a speech from 10 years ago, and just play his
00:39:18.260
How about when he was questioning Clarence Thomas to go on?
00:39:22.100
That's when I realized there was a meanness to him.
00:39:24.220
Oh, it was a snide little sneer at a black man.
00:39:34.660
And then right after that, the judge said, I feel like this is a high-tech lynching.
00:39:41.600
That's when I turned against him in terms of, I didn't think of him as a dumb but nice
00:39:49.640
I said, there's something, there's a mean streak here.
00:39:52.240
I always knew he was a creature of whatever they put in front of him.
00:40:01.540
Now he has a very, very serious case of dementia.
00:40:04.580
But he reminds, I mean, they call it the Biden crime family.
00:40:10.640
But he's kind of like somebody that would be on The Sopranos, you know, and his family
00:40:19.700
The brother-in-law, the brother, everybody's making money.
00:40:27.200
Well, he has the whole machinery of the government behind him.
00:40:35.420
I think he is the head in some ways and a figurehead in other ways.
00:40:44.740
Even in good times, he wouldn't be capable of most of these decisions.
00:40:50.060
Even if he weren't demented, Obama would be running it.
00:40:55.600
And he himself said, if only I could get a sock puppet upstairs and I'd be down here in
00:41:05.020
You can see that almost insane caring about Iran.
00:41:13.680
I mean, it's completely inconsistent with any future for America, Israel, or the human race.
00:41:22.840
I mean, even compared to China and Russia, where we've got leaders who are homicidal and in
00:41:31.200
a way, these are hardcore communists who you can negotiate with.
00:41:41.160
This guy is leading a cult, a homicidal cult, where they'll blow themselves up in order to
00:41:47.580
kill you, or they'll justify putting children in front of them so if they die, they take
00:41:54.160
Most of us, if we were going to die, would try to save the 500 children.
00:42:03.980
That's why they get the red flag and the whole deal.
00:42:06.280
They have to have never-ending revolution and blood.
00:42:18.140
It creates tremendous problems way beyond just the Middle East.
00:42:22.600
And if they didn't have an Iran, they would create it.
00:42:28.500
I mean, I keep thinking, you know, from all that cash that he sent, all that cash that
00:42:36.200
When I was a prosecutor, back in what would have been, I guess, in 15 and 16, when he
00:42:42.680
was leaving office, he sent somewhere near $170 million in cash and didn't tell anybody.
00:42:55.600
I mean, you just think, you use your mind a little.
00:43:00.320
Oh, unless you're giving the money to terrorists, because they like to have cash.
00:43:13.000
Obama should be under investigation for that transaction, giving cash and hiding it.
00:43:21.340
Then think of how many people were killed as a result of that money, including Americans,
00:43:27.140
because Soleimani, who Trump took out, specialized in killing Americans.
00:43:41.100
The police, like in your family, the firefighters?
00:43:51.900
I mean, it's amazing what we went through with the defunding of the police.
00:43:56.520
So, my police department now has to worry about a much bigger threat of terrorism than ever before.
00:44:03.940
Right now, there is a much greater threat of terrorism in the United States than, let's say, the day before September 11th.
00:44:10.660
Because the day before September 11th, we had a much better idea of who was in the United States.
00:44:17.880
The minute that attack took place, the minute we knew it was a terrorist attack, we knew exactly who did it.
00:44:24.560
Now, it would have been better if we had known about it before.
00:44:27.580
But by knowing about it immediately, no time was wasted in protecting us against any repercussions from it.
00:44:33.900
Nowadays, if there were an attack, it'd be very hard to figure out who did it because he's let in so many people and we don't know who they are.
00:44:46.180
Because we've picked up more terrorists than ever before.
00:44:51.700
For everyone you note, there's at least one or two more that come in secretly.
00:45:04.800
No, but I mean, why isn't the United States government doing anything about an invasion and terrorists coming across the...
00:45:13.920
Because they want to destabilize the United States so that we change our form of government and become part...
00:45:21.700
Well, I know all that, but didn't people take vows to the Constitution to protect...
00:45:34.780
General Milley said that he would call China if Trump was going to attack...
00:45:48.020
Don't we give them our tax money to try to keep us safe from being attacked?
00:46:00.860
No, but it's way too scary because where is the government that's supposed to be protecting the taxpayers that pay for their salaries?
00:46:11.100
In many, many places, it is no longer a government.
00:46:15.460
It's a regime run by Biden and run by Obama as part of the Democrat Party.
00:46:28.500
I mean, if you look at our economy, our economy is clearly more socialist than some socialist countries.
00:46:38.620
All you have to do is look at the fact that Hunter Biden is still walking around after one crime.
00:46:46.580
And that Biden could have been prosecuted and put in jail in 2015, 2016.
00:46:54.060
The witnesses were ready to come over from Ukraine.
00:46:56.280
The FBI, you will find out, had the whole case and buried it.
00:47:06.800
And before me, how many people did they go after?
00:47:10.580
You take a guy like Manafort, they virtually tortured him.
00:47:13.760
They put him in solitary confinement and they bring him back and they tell him what to say.
00:47:18.580
And the man luckily has enough honor to say, go screw yourself.
00:47:23.360
But I worried for my client every day because I didn't know Paul very well.
00:47:29.800
And I said, gee, you know, you keep doing that.
00:47:33.960
Look at the people that have caved now under much less pressure.
00:47:41.380
They'd bring him over and they'd have him like in a cell for 22, 23 hours a day looking at his feet.
00:47:49.740
Then they'd bring him over about every six or seven days.
00:47:54.200
And then they'd have him sit around in a nice office, have a nice meal.
00:47:58.220
And then they would tell him what they wanted to hear.
00:48:01.140
They believed he was the connection between Trump and Putin.
00:48:11.520
No, so they're trying to make him lie for them.
00:48:13.500
Well, they began with the assumption that he was the connection.
00:48:15.720
They found out he wasn't, but they wanted him to say it anyway.
00:48:18.380
And the reality is they made a critical mistake.
00:48:25.380
And he was tied in with the Russian-oriented Ukrainians.
00:48:29.980
Therefore, they thought he was tied in with Russia and he wasn't.
00:48:32.920
Now, let me tell you how that's a bunch of, as he likes to say, malarkey.
00:48:36.440
Do you know the oligarch who paid them all the money, Zoloshevsky?
00:48:53.680
Zoloshevsky was a Russian-oriented Ukrainian who had to run out of the country when the Ukrainians
00:49:04.080
He was paying money to Biden to have the case against his company dismissed so he could come
00:49:11.900
So, basically, that was what the whole thing was about.
00:49:17.340
It was to get Zoloshevsky's company back into Ukraine and have it not taken away from him.
00:49:28.840
Zoloshevsky goes around Ukraine now bragging that he kept his $40 billion company for only
00:49:38.340
That he paid out about $200 million in bribes, the Bidens being one of them.
00:49:42.920
The other thing that we don't want to bother to find out or...
00:49:48.340
Or Saint Zelensky doesn't want to find out this is that the president...
00:49:56.960
His mentor was the biggest money launderer in Ukraine, Kolomoisky.
00:50:13.360
I can give you half the story and I have half the documents.
00:50:37.860
Joe, you know we put a lot of money in foreign bank accounts for you.
00:50:40.560
And the FBI did you a favor and never interviewed the woman who knew it, even though they knew she might get killed.
00:50:53.380
What do you think would happen if we started opening those bank accounts?
00:50:56.760
Now, I'm not saying that's happening, but he's compromised.
00:51:04.300
Now, I'll give you one for which he should be impeached, prosecuted, and put in jail for the rest of his life.
00:51:11.520
He gave up the Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan that is 400 miles from China.
00:51:16.860
You don't have to be a military expert to realize to have an air base 400 miles from your biggest enemy is golden.
00:51:28.220
And if you look at the war going on in Israel, you see what proximity means, right?
00:51:38.300
And not only was it an air base, it was one that we had put billions of dollars in.
00:51:41.540
And it was an A-number-one air base, right virtually on the border of China.
00:51:51.420
He left behind $85 billion worth of equipment that being used by Hamas now.
00:52:03.500
All of a sudden, the Taliban became better armed than most of the countries in that area of the world.
00:52:08.920
They were the biggest arms dealers for the last two, three years selling our arms.
00:52:16.880
You've got to believe that some of that equipment that's killing Israelis and some Americans.
00:52:31.800
And in one White House record, I'm half Jewish.
00:52:37.680
You know, my friend said that to me, and I said, well, she's not Jewish at all, but she said she's from the Midwest, so she has.
00:52:47.000
And so we were hanging out, and somebody, she comes to running back.
00:52:59.320
It depends on how you look at it, but being mayor of New York.
00:53:03.340
Being mayor of New York and growing up in a neighborhood that actually was Italian, Irish, and Jewish with friends.
00:53:08.760
You know, I feel like I know everything about Judaism.
00:53:13.360
And then when I ran, one of the reasons I won was the Jewish vote.
00:53:20.740
And I, at the last minute, wanted to go, because my friends were going.
00:53:25.880
And they said, oh, they'll let you into the Hanukkah party.
00:53:28.000
So they're being very strict this year about the parties.
00:53:34.140
I'd walk into the residence three nights a week.
00:53:37.180
So I called Madeline, and I say, Madeline, could you give me two tickets to the Hanukkah party?
00:53:44.000
And she says, no, I can't, Mr. Mayor, because you're going to the Christmas party next week.
00:53:50.000
And Mrs. Trump said, we have to be very strict, because last year, numerous people were double and triply.
00:53:56.720
In other words, they would go to the Hanukkah party and two Christmas parties.
00:53:59.580
So we really would like his close friends to set a good example.
00:54:21.660
How do you think, Marilyn, a Republican could get elected in New York if he wasn't Jewish?
00:54:34.820
And there's a little record there saying, half Jewish.
00:54:52.700
Will you wait until I finish the interview, FBI, please?
00:54:56.220
There's no reason to knock down the door with a, you don't need those machine guns to arrest me.
00:55:01.740
I wish I could get invited to an effing Hanukkah party at the White House for once in my life.
00:55:23.040
Were you, I don't know what you can and can't talk about.
00:55:25.200
Were you talking about Jenna Ellis and Meadows or?
00:55:34.780
Because I'm just saying, we've had Michael Cohen.
00:55:39.400
We have this crazy woman who says Trump jumped over the, like he's a, it's like Harrison Ford in Air Force One.
00:55:53.900
I don't even think a body could fit through it.
00:55:56.400
But according to her, he jumped from the back seat of the limousine to the front seat, knocked a Secret Service agent aside and grabbed the wheel.
00:56:05.920
Like he's, you know, I said he's Harrison Ford in Air Force One.
00:56:14.620
She's making all kinds of allegations against me that are completely absurd.
00:56:17.580
I, I, I groped her in front of a hundred people.
00:56:23.600
And I, somehow I, she had, she had a, a coat on because it was zero degrees out.
00:56:29.780
And I put my hands all the way up her dress and her coat, which means I would have to have gone down on my knees.
00:56:37.180
And, and, and, and, and, you know, and the press writes it like it's true.
00:56:43.520
She never mentioned it until she wrote her book.
00:56:46.000
I mean, she testified a hundred times, didn't remember it.
00:56:48.360
She put it in a book because that's one of the things she featured to sell her book.
00:56:52.460
Now I know how crooked the publishing industry is because when I published my book, they wanted me to put two or three things in it that weren't true.
00:57:09.980
The, the, I usually tell people with these crappy books, the worst part of the book, you don't need to read it.
00:57:15.480
The worst part of the book is advertised to sell it.
00:57:21.340
But then have you know, that brings me to how many of these Democrat supporters and Democrats themselves, women have brought false rape allegations against the Republicans and they never get punished for it.
00:57:37.420
But then the one credible rape allegation, Tara Reid, they call her a liar.
00:57:46.220
There's the same degree of evidence and probably more on that one as all of the other ones.
00:58:11.760
Which means there's no justice because there can never be two systems of justice.
00:58:15.680
The minute you have two systems of justice, it means that one group is getting injustice.
00:58:20.880
How about Trump is indicted for moving papers around Mar-a-Lago?
00:58:26.720
The other guy isn't indicted and Trump has a arguable right to take those papers as a president.
00:58:35.080
No right to take any papers out of the White House.
00:58:47.280
Has them every place where it had access to the people paying him.
00:58:55.280
Next to a guy who was a business partner of the spy chief of China.
00:59:02.100
His son passed those documents every day for a year.
00:59:08.480
And there are entries in the hard drive that look like intelligence reports reprinted by Hunter.
00:59:23.600
So, there's at least probable cause to believe that his was not just a dispute over who owns these documents.
00:59:34.320
But he was doing it to give some value to the country that gave him $30 million.
00:59:43.540
And they expect us to go, you know, around like business as usual.
00:59:53.600
Imagine, let's pick a Republican and a Democrat.
00:59:56.200
Suppose Russia had given $20 million to Kennedy or to Reagan.
01:00:06.720
I think they'd have been put in jail for the rest of their lives.
01:00:13.120
And I'm picking the two most popular of their party.
01:00:16.180
Every Democrat would have turned on Kennedy in those days.
01:00:18.580
And every Republican would have turned on Reagan.
01:00:22.480
It's unthinkable that they would have taken money from the Soviet Union.
01:00:25.820
It's unthinkable that his family took money from China and we made him president.
01:00:31.500
And then we can see the decisions that he makes that are pro-China or anti-American.
01:00:44.420
What about the movie, Dinesh D'Souza, Police State?
01:00:48.680
Well, Police State is, unfortunately, about as true as you can be.
01:00:56.420
And it's a movie that if I saw it 10 years ago, I would have told you that could never happen.
01:01:12.380
And also, it gets very bad because now you can give me any conspiracy, and I even know
01:01:16.660
it sounds crazy, but I'll just say, well, let's just wait a minute and examine it.
01:01:50.180
Well, if you take the case in Georgia, it's hard to see how they could get to the point
01:01:52.940
of trying the case before the election because they got three in front of it.
01:01:55.740
But in any event, even if they tried one or two of these cases against him, the appeal
01:02:07.100
And I'm just hoping that Trump's lawyers take a case to the federal court, put them all together
01:02:19.080
We're on about chapter 10 of Let's Frame Trump.
01:02:22.300
It started with Russian collusion, then the hard drive being Russian disinformation, for
01:02:33.080
I'm suing Biden for defamation because during the second debate, he said, I'm a Russian pawn
01:02:42.440
They had validated that hard drive eight months before.
01:02:48.540
So they knew it wasn't Russian disinformation and he said it anyway, but that stuck with
01:02:58.780
So they've tried so many attempts that I want them to put it together in one suit and say,
01:03:04.480
hey, it's quite clear they violated his civil rights and all these cases should be dismissed.
01:03:13.700
I mean, the one in Georgia, he's questioning an election.
01:03:19.620
His four lawyers are indicted for representing a man who's questioning an election and giving
01:03:33.140
And we believe that's a sacred right that they have.
01:03:35.860
A president doesn't have the right to have counsel that's on his side.
01:03:44.280
I've got to agree with the anti-American swine in the newspapers.
01:03:51.980
I mean, they've taken away all of his constitutional rights.
01:03:58.340
Well, they did it while he was the president, too.
01:03:59.740
How about when they searched my office, not my house, they searched my law office?
01:04:09.640
A year and a half later, they send a letter to the grand jury.
01:04:12.540
They couldn't find probable cause that I committed a crime.
01:04:28.460
What about the Patriot Act that made all that stuff possible?
01:04:41.980
But we did that thinking we could entrust that to honest people to protect us.
01:04:48.100
Some of those things are very valuable if used by honest and honorable people and very dangerous.
01:04:54.840
And it's a shame because when we cut those back, which we're going to have to do, we're going to be not as safe in a certain way.
01:05:02.380
But when you think of the daily erosion of our rights as against the one attack that might protect us from, we have to do it.
01:05:14.900
Right now, certain parts of America are not America anymore.
01:05:28.980
And that was part of the problem with the case.
01:05:31.280
And they were smart enough to do their cheating on the home field.
01:05:37.860
They did their cheating and think, right, crooked Philadelphia, crooked Detroit, crooked Atlanta, crooked Maricopa County.
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They didn't do it in places that are Republican or places that are neutral, that are in between, that go back and forth.
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These are places where the Democrat Party, like, they didn't need Chicago.
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I remember the riots in Baltimore and the congressman who represented Baltimore got up and said, nothing's been done for this area of Baltimore in 40 years.
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Well, he had been the congressman for 20 years and his family had become millionaires.
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And I know that game because as mayor of New York, I replaced a mayor like that.
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I replaced a mayor who became a multimillionaire, although he had never worked outside of government.
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He became a multimillionaire because of bribes paid for inner city broadcasting for cable television in New York.
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He was one of the people that could vote cable.
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And the company was a shell company, and then they eventually sold it to Time Warner.
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I mean, a lot of that original cable business is dirty as you can get.
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I mean, there were a couple of big trials, but in New York, it was so dirty.
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And the Democratic politicians in New York fought over the millions they were going to get.
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New York was one of the last places to get cable.
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New York City, because our politicians, the crooks who ran New York, all Democrats, couldn't agree on the millions they were going to get.
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Eventually, David Dinkins got a couple of million, and he walks out and he tells his secretary, I finally became a millionaire.
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And the secretary was ready to testify against him.
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And they even had a document that almost conclusively proved it.
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And the U.S. attorney wouldn't bring the case because he's afraid there'd be a riot.
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They control every aspect of the black community's lives.
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Yeah, and it's the blacks who have been left behind.
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So you have a very vital middle class, even rich black community now.
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And I believe that over time, and this is one of the things that a Trump victory will do,
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I believe they're going to start losing some of that, which is why they're bringing in the...
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You know, in New York, a lot of people in America don't know this, but this is really sinister.
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The New York City Council has voted to allow non-citizens to vote.
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Now, it's been held up because it's hopefully unconstitutional.
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But then they'll try to change the Constitution.
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They know you can't keep people in subjection forever because even if these people are poor
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and even if these people are hidden from things, it's a big world and they're seeing what's going on.
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And I think they're on the way to losing the Hispanic vote.
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And I hope that all the immigrants who are here illegally, if they are allowed to vote,
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please vote for Trump because, you know, he doesn't want you to live like the place you came from.
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Why we were so nervous about having Rudy is because we're Jewish, so we're extremely paranoid,
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Because he's about to be a father of two quickly in a few months.
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He goes, I've tried to call them and they haven't called me back.
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I said, we have to pre-interview the mayor just so I could hear your voice and make sure
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And then today when you guys were showing up late, I was like, I got tricked by AI.
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I said, Rudy, and they're not going to show up.
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And then it turned out that the other bridge was more crowded than that bridge.
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And of course, the two ladies didn't let me forget it.
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I said, he goes, what are we going to do if he doesn't show up?