The Roseanne Barr Podcast - October 05, 2023


Shannon Hughey | The Roseanne Barr Podcast #017


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 35 minutes

Words per Minute

161.23984

Word Count

15,351

Sentence Count

7

Misogynist Sentences

67

Hate Speech Sentences

72


Summary

In this episode of The Roseanne Bar Podcast, I chat with my oldest friend and confidant, Shannon Hughie Bergevula-Bersanne, who just happens to be my stylist and make-up artist, and she is also my confidant and my dear friend to the star of the TV show Roseanne . She talks about how she got her start as a stand-up comic in the 80s and early 90s, and how she overcame her addictions to drugs and alcohol to become a successful standup comic. Shannon also talks about the time she got high on the set of Roseanne, and the time that she almost died on stage at her first Roseanne show, Roseanne's Bar. She also shares the story of how she turned her addiction to pot into a career, and talks about her journey to sobriety and recovery from drug use, which led her to a life-changing career in the comedy world, including her role as Roseanne on and in s hit TV show Roseanne . Shannon talks about what it's like to be a standup comedian, and what it s like being on stage with James Brolin on , as well as what it was like growing up in a small town in the late 90s in the early days of the late 60s and 70s in New York City, and early 80s. , Shannon shares her story of growing up as one of the only woman in her hometowns in a town called Roseanne s hometown, and , and how it all of her dreams of becoming a star in the community. . . . and much more, you won t want to miss it! I hope you enjoy this one, you'll get a chance to listen to the Roseanne! I can't wait to hear what you think of this one! ! ENJOYING IT? ~ ~ I'll be back next week's episode! ~ PATREON BERGSANER - Thank you for listening to the roseanne Bar podcast! - E. - Bet mgm - Bet MGM - Betemm - MEGM - MOST IMPORTAL - CHEERS! Bet mgM & Game sense - MURDERER - M&M - - CHASED TO Wager Ontario - CHANDLE


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00:01:05.740 and i'm very excited to be uh conversing with my guest tonight who just happens to be my oldest friend
00:01:15.460 in uh in uh the world and she is also uh my confidant my uh stylist and my makeup artist to the star
00:01:28.380 and uh dear friend welcome miss shannon hughie bergevula bersanne bersanne i haven't changed my name
00:01:39.540 she recently was married to a man named john bersanne and it has no vowels in the name interesting
00:01:46.660 well there is an a it's b-r-s-a-n oh there is a vowel excuse me i have to rewind and cut that
00:01:55.820 i'm happy to see you i haven't seen you for a while i know it's been since uh memorial weekend
00:02:06.200 in austin did i see you then yeah remember you got super high and bombed at the mothership
00:02:12.640 that was shannon yeah so you were under shannon and we did joe rogan at the mothership and tony
00:02:17.460 oh my god i remember that i told you i go honey i'm never coming back here didn't i yeah i was
00:02:24.960 bumming i did a terrible job on stage did not oh i thought i died 10 dogs deaths that's what it
00:02:32.320 sounded like by you when shannon was texting me during she's like she's doing great everyone
00:02:35.660 loves it and then i went to pick you guys up and you said it was the worst set you ever did
00:02:40.200 oh yeah i was ashamed of myself was it really that bad though no no i think you just got too high
00:02:47.580 yeah another time that i got too high you know i think i get nervous so i smoke pot and then i forget
00:02:55.320 all my jokes all my punchlines and i get even more nervous so it doesn't even help me it hinders me
00:03:02.180 i'm on the verge of sobriety no there's that that window where if you open it too far
00:03:11.420 it's bad there's that fine line of here's where it's good and then it's too much and then you forget
00:03:19.780 everything and then you're nervous and then you know you're forgetting everything and then you freak
00:03:24.420 out and then you know and that's really great on stage to be going through all those emotions
00:03:29.400 yeah it's not good on stage now you've seen me on stage for several years haven't you how many
00:03:35.040 years well i met you in october 1997 and you were going to barbara streisand's wedding oh that's
00:03:44.600 right didn't you do my makeup for her wedding yes that was the first time did you go i didn't know
00:03:50.380 yeah did i look good she married james brolin did i look good yes of course you look i can't remember
00:03:56.260 what i was wearing hell no do you remember what my makeup and hair was like just you know super soft
00:04:04.500 and beautiful and you know you wanted to look classic it's babs you know you got it i didn't
00:04:11.500 want to outshine her what was the wedding like i'm so people want to know yeah kind of stuff yeah
00:04:17.900 oh it was lovely and she's lovely and he's lovely and i invited him on my show you know at james
00:04:24.480 brolin and he came on to play my fantasy man when i was in my that's right i guess that was my eighth
00:04:32.340 season and uh you know after i'd won the lottery and uh i think it was shortly before i purchased the
00:04:40.180 town a lot of people don't really know how that show how i wrapped that up yeah i don't yeah i know
00:04:47.700 no one cares but well tell us this is a special well i people would lie as in roseanne connor
00:04:54.020 she uh won the lottery and she goes and she buys the town factory that she used to work in
00:05:02.140 that she walked out of when she tried to you know organize it her sister and fellow workers
00:05:08.260 in lanford illinois so she goes back and she buys the factory and she institutes
00:05:15.120 profit sharing which is my politics are of profit sharing for workers
00:05:22.280 and uh so that's what she does and thereby saves the town and that was my final uh that was my next
00:05:31.800 the last season that's sweet because i felt like you know when i first became rich and incredibly
00:05:38.860 famous and wealthy and gorgeous gorgeous i that was my fantasy was to uh you know it really was part
00:05:51.940 of my fantasy was to you know help other people okay wait back to barbara's wedding
00:05:58.660 yeah tell me tell me about that yeah give the people what they want oh it was her wedding reception
00:06:04.760 oh did she have on white still at the reception did she had on a lovely lovely attire is all i
00:06:11.700 remember lovely it was at uh what's his name's house that has that gorgeous house there up on the hill
00:06:18.900 david uh the songwriter foster yeah david foster because he was at beverly's yeah wedding
00:06:26.360 mm-hmm and he that was him and two wives ago he's since remarried twice and so have i she's like
00:06:34.020 35 and he's like 70 or something yeah his new wife is that singer yeah on uh the dark-haired chick
00:06:41.320 what was her name on the uh star search yeah what is it american idol american idol and she's
00:06:48.760 dating yourself it all this all blends together at my age but she was quite good yeah yeah and they
00:06:57.800 have a kid oh they do oh and he'll be about 90 when the kid graduates from high school just like you
00:07:05.400 ma yeah kind of like me no i'm 70 and my my youngest is 28 as you and you're about to turn
00:07:12.820 71 so i'm trying to think of what i should do for my birthday party because i never gave myself a
00:07:20.420 70th birthday yeah that was i have not given myself any birthday parties for quite a while let's have
00:07:26.620 like a but here i am on my own and you know the one thing i missed by being in a relationship for so
00:07:34.060 many years was giving up my parties and i'm going to return to that okay and girlfriends yeah that's
00:07:42.660 the thing is when you're in a relationship you you tend to give up everything you love
00:07:48.660 that's the best part no here's just a thought uh-huh girls weekend jake films us all sounds
00:07:58.820 horrible already five five of your or three or four yeah three's enough and we go to like
00:08:06.620 maybe four the bahamas or something or nash no not nashville somewhere like not too far out of the
00:08:15.180 realm or you can really party down or wait ayahuasca and wherever that everybody says that you barf or
00:08:25.520 crap yourself yeah that doesn't sound fine that's you're gonna do that on your birthday anyway
00:08:29.760 might as well get something out of it jake jake look at
00:08:36.640 i i do want to try that ayahuasca everybody was telling me that it changed their life for trauma
00:08:43.840 yeah which god knows um can we talk about you've been through like i don't know 10 traumas
00:08:52.000 oh that's easy i'd say double yeah 25 okay 25 life-threatening life-ending traumas i'd say
00:09:01.420 emotional traumas and some physical the worst how can you ask me that i don't even i know they've all
00:09:11.280 been blanked i'm thinking of a worse but yeah i don't want to talk about that no let's talk about
00:09:16.140 the worst things that have ever happened that'll be a job people would actually like that to be
00:09:22.160 honest i would love it if you did so i met the worst was huh i met you in 1997 quit slapping the
00:09:29.640 couch oh sorry okay you met me in 1997 yeah i was i was doing a dry uh dry rehearsal i guess you'd say
00:09:39.700 for my talk show which was about to begin and we were doing it at a little theater no no we did it
00:09:47.600 at television city and this we did it at the stage oh we did but it wasn't done yet oh isn't that
00:09:54.940 interesting you thought it was at a little theater it was at cbs television city oh really oh and so
00:10:06.660 jake do you know you know this story don't you i don't think he does which story is this how i
00:10:13.280 connected with her uh no tell me okay weird it's wild i we believe in god and god has a plan for each
00:10:25.820 and every one of us and you can't make this shit up so i did her friend beverly gatika's wedding
00:10:36.060 makeup and then i started doing beverly's hair and makeup and she goes i need you to do my makeup
00:10:42.180 and hair for lionel richie's party rosanne's gonna be there and i'm like okay so i went to her house
00:10:50.340 did it all she went she goes rosanne asked me who did my hair and makeup she loved it and i'm like
00:10:57.320 did you give her my number you know and of course she didn't because those bitches are stingy bitches
00:11:03.080 and they don't want to share well don't say that about beverly okay yeah we'll edit that out okay
00:11:11.220 anyway so then i'm like i'm never gonna meet rosanne quit slapping the couch i'm never gonna
00:11:19.640 is that echoing okay yeah i'm never gonna meet rosanne i don't know how am i ever gonna connect
00:11:26.200 with her so i my friend was visiting i take him down hollywood boulevard in front of man's chinese
00:11:33.040 theater to see the footprints and all this stuff it's very windy a piece of paper blow jake look at
00:11:39.400 me i'm watching on the monitor piece of paper blows up and hits my leg and i'm like and i look at it
00:11:46.900 come meet rosanne bar in an informal gathering of her talk show at cbs television city hollywood so
00:11:54.340 it's like in three days and i'm like okay i'm i have a porn to work on that day doing porn
00:12:02.920 hair and makeup yeah specify hair and adult movie hair and makeup no you said i have a porn to do but
00:12:09.320 you mean the makeup no i wasn't in the right you gotta be you're on a podcast i did the hair and
00:12:14.800 makeup okay so i didn't know there was hair and makeup everyone hilarious i'll do the porn people's
00:12:20.680 hair and makeup and i gotta go because i gotta go see rosanne and so then i get there and they're
00:12:27.860 like do you have false lashes and i'm like oh oh no and they go she needs false lashes so they had to
00:12:34.020 run out and then they go here she comes and i was like that's not true the first time you met me
00:12:41.480 i already had a guy doing my makeup you had done it before and you didn't like you had one hair one
00:12:48.600 makeup and you didn't like any two people i could do both no but didn't you come up to me when i was
00:12:54.600 on stage and go i could do that's part of oh okay go ahead i remember this okay i just thought you
00:13:01.200 were telling another no this was a life-changing thing in my life i will never forget every minute
00:13:07.180 of what happened oh okay okay can i hear about the barbara strideson wedding or no we're past that
00:13:12.120 was it nice oh it was lovely like was there food like what did they dress up yes they had a lot
00:13:17.680 they had lovely food they served lovely food did she talk to you oh yeah well i had been with her
00:13:23.920 several times before that my favorite time with her was we were in new orleans uh because it was
00:13:31.480 napki napty where they sell the shows and jim was selling his show jim pensacola wings of gold
00:13:39.460 and uh we we had the same manager me and jim and uh james she's she's name dropping with babs i love
00:13:49.560 it and uh so we was walking down the street and the sheriff came and he says i'd like to take you
00:13:56.080 ladies gator hunting later this is and uh we'll go in the thing and i was so stupid you know with
00:14:05.720 all of my ticks and problems and my ocd and what have you you know i go i i just i can't go in a
00:14:15.860 swamp i'm sorry wait you were gonna go gator hunting with barbara strideson and james berlin
00:14:20.660 and you turn it down yeah because i got too nervous babs doesn't do that both she did go
00:14:26.880 and i asked the sheriff the next day uh what did i miss i i said i'm kicking myself in the ass
00:14:33.360 that i didn't go and he goes well you should kick yourself in the ass we had a great time and she
00:14:39.560 loved it she just loved it and so he was telling me you know she never had done anything like that
00:14:46.140 how much she loved it and they all loved her you know and everybody was lining up and she was so
00:14:52.100 kind to all of them and sweet you know and uh so then we was walking around it was starting to get
00:14:58.360 dark and we was she wanted to see bourbon street we had a bunch of guys around us so we were safe and
00:15:04.020 walking bourbon street like security yeah and uh
00:15:09.140 they go uh i go hey let's go down there that uh let's go down there and see all the gays you know
00:15:17.820 and she then her ocd kicked in and she goes oh no i i would i i can't go down there because
00:15:25.440 the gays love yeah she'd be torn limb by limb you know i got a hank of her hair i got her nose
00:15:32.940 yeah well that would be quite the hole so i said oh yeah i didn't think that i didn't think that way
00:15:37.960 but uh but the gays love you too yeah but not like they look can you imagine being gay in new
00:15:45.280 orleans and roseanne bar and barbara streisand turned the corner wait do you say new orleans new
00:15:50.140 orleans all right so you that was it with barbara that's that's pretty cool well i i have had
00:15:57.300 you know i didn't know you were friends with her company many times i didn't know that i only
00:16:01.880 met her when you were looking at her name dropper well it's a podcast even though you say i am i
00:16:06.600 never said yeah yeah i had the pleasure of her company many times and uh and uh she likes a lot
00:16:15.440 of the same kind of antiques that i like she likes uh stokely tiffany lambs yeah and stokely
00:16:22.680 well she's stokely oh it's that really cool american kind of almost amish furniture it's really cool
00:16:31.820 i remember you went to look at her house you were going to buy it i went i was going to buy her
00:16:35.300 house but it just had too many stairs you know even that buck was little and i was just worried
00:16:42.160 about him on stairs so i didn't buy it i remember my ex-boyfriend that was the artist that you know
00:16:47.700 that we will not the artist formerly known as did stuff for her and she had a walk george washington's
00:16:56.300 first she bought george washington's first painting wow when he was like seven years old
00:17:03.080 it was him on a horse that he sketched i've seen that yeah and he was like i'm not starstruck ever but
00:17:10.560 i was sitting on the floor in front of her on my knees that's when you should have known that he was
00:17:16.480 gay so anyway you did um porn makeup right yes can you just tell me what that's like real quick for
00:17:22.460 i know what people want to hear okay is it normal movie set makeup or how's it different yes but
00:17:28.120 here's the deal you have to clean up after oh i'd always say don't come in their face
00:17:34.880 it's my work for me um but and plus if you get it in your eyes which you probably have never had
00:17:45.180 no i haven't had the eyes but it it burns and your eyes turn bloodshot red and get swollen so i'm
00:17:52.100 like please so you're like a cut man and like a boxing match like you have to get the bloodshot out
00:17:57.120 from the cum in their eyes um oh this is what people want i'm just i know the volume uh yeah you
00:18:02.880 not even eye drops takes that away though but anyway here's the funny part so i they're in the
00:18:09.120 makeup chair and we're like i'm doing their makeup and then the guy comes in hi i'm joe schlong and i
00:18:18.000 will be fucking you today and she's like hi joe okay yeah okay what are your likes and dislikes
00:18:24.820 okay don't pinch my titty nipples too hard um i don't want to kiss uh you can pull my hair like all
00:18:34.020 the likes and dislikes and then they're like okay cool okay see you in about an hour so professional
00:18:40.820 oh my god very professional oh my god and and then when viagra came out oh that was the worst
00:18:48.240 because they can't come and you know you need that cum shot yeah that's you know so you have like a
00:18:53.640 stand-in for that or no so we took oh what is that stuff called not survey uh the face wash that's
00:19:02.180 like oh the cetaphil cetaphil i never knew and we go oh like squirted all over the girls
00:19:08.880 oh really just destroyed porn and then they'd fake it and then it looked like cum all over a male
00:19:16.440 faked orgasm in porn this is groundbreaking and those chicks i mean no one hardly ever has an
00:19:24.380 orgasm on a chick well chicks don't do that anyway no i guess the ones you've been with but you know
00:19:30.840 but um so but you used to tell me that a lot of hollywood actors big names would come to the
00:19:39.600 porn set to watch the porns right yes just to watch rock stars actors you know they all love porn chicks
00:19:48.580 because i don't know why do you suppose well i think personally because they don't have they
00:19:56.100 like a certain comedian that i remember doesn't like to get involved they just want to have sex
00:20:03.680 so there's a certain kind of like okay let's have sex you're a porn star okay now there's no
00:20:11.780 are we gonna see each other again i love you you know there it's just like cut and dry sex
00:20:18.300 like a prostitute but you know who they are but what about the big stars that would come just to watch
00:20:24.760 because they're like sex freaks or maybe they want to see it live they don't want to see it like
00:20:32.480 on a video do they try to get involved or get their phone numbers and shit like that i didn't see any of
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00:21:07.760 must be 18 plus play smart i can't say that that's kind of creepy to just show up i'll never
00:21:14.560 forget like can you give us a name does stuff no no i'm not gonna say any names the stuff that i saw
00:21:22.380 was kind of like at one point desensitizing because it's like this girl i think i told you
00:21:34.140 there was one time when a girl was like you know my my husband doesn't know i'm doing this he thinks
00:21:39.800 i'm a dancer and so she's like having a sex scene and they're like okay reverse cowgirl okay missionary
00:21:48.280 you know there's all the little things and then her phone rings
00:21:53.040 and everyone's like be quiet it's her husband and she's like hi honey yep i'm on a break oops i'm on a
00:22:02.980 break you know okay i'll be home in an hour feed the kids oh my god no they had families and stuff
00:22:12.400 why were they just doing it for the money i mean obviously um i think a lot of them just really
00:22:20.460 like sex some did it for the money because they realize if i'm a secretary all week for 40 hours and
00:22:26.740 i make 500 and then i make 500 for one hour having sex i'm good yeah uh-huh but do you think they like
00:22:36.580 the sex some of them like some of them did and there were couples that were husband and wife that
00:22:43.680 they're like okay cool we're into sex we're like let's make a living at it
00:22:49.240 and i you know i don't judge whatever i know i i met uh well i've yeah i like her yeah but i met a
00:23:01.380 lot of people that you know hang out with comedians that are strippers and sex workers and stuff like
00:23:08.320 that and uh you know they're selling a whole bill of goods you know and you know what that's a whole
00:23:18.460 lifestyle like it's all at night and i think comedians and strippers and all that it's like
00:23:24.320 a whole underground lifestyle at night but some of them told me like this one lady i guess i was in
00:23:33.520 my 40s and so was she but that you know she just enjoyed to have sex with people i was pretty shocked
00:23:41.300 because it was not anything that i had ever considered speaking of sex what about testosterone
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00:25:38.480 promo code rb great you were always a one take wonder um so anyway back to jizzing on people's faces
00:25:47.720 um we're talking about no what was the movie the disney movie with the cow where you played the cow oh
00:25:53.340 yeah uh that's over there uh rosanne what was that movie called that joke was down on the farm or some
00:26:00.820 uh home on the range you didn't hear my joke i said rosanne is that okay come on that was funny
00:26:07.660 um no i just want to say i you know i was around her a lot and then we did that uh cartoon thing and
00:26:16.560 she did the voiceover and she would do it they'd go do it like this she'd do it they go do it like
00:26:22.600 um softer she'd do that one take one take every single time that cartoon i was just like wow
00:26:30.380 she's a pro literally but you didn't do that many voiceover cartoons did you no but i had to do a
00:26:39.720 whole bunch of promos every yeah yeah yeah and look who's talking you're the voice of the girl in
00:26:44.580 the sequel the little baby yeah that's true oh i didn't know that yeah yeah with travolta and
00:26:50.520 kirstie alley she's god rest her yeah god rest her she was a good fighter
00:26:56.700 they killed her she she was really fighting there at the end for good stuff wasn't she yeah
00:27:01.200 definitely killed her she was the only you think they killed her i do she was the outspoken
00:27:06.180 hollywood republican well she was fine as a scientologist they protected her but as soon as
00:27:11.060 she started talking about the backs she had to go that's my theory i don't know she was she was
00:27:19.220 pretty old she was older than me was she uh not that old let me look this up i know she was a
00:27:25.720 couple years older than me um wait back to oh i remember we would wake up at like 5 a.m and you'd
00:27:35.080 have to do those promos yeah 71 hey watch me on abc cincinnati and then you do all of that oh my god
00:27:43.980 that was a nightmare all that stuff all right so where were we with the the porn well no he's
00:27:49.400 back no no then you met mom we never finished your story when you met mom yeah you did yeah i said she
00:27:54.540 said you got the job kid and then we did this fantastic this fantastic talk show and we had so
00:28:02.360 many cool people on yeah remember you rolling on the bed with um julio what was the iglesias or no
00:28:10.520 the the son enrique yeah enrique iglesias yeah he's pretty hot you were rolling on that round bed
00:28:18.020 because our stage remember it went in a circle and she had a kitchen remember the people in the
00:28:23.880 audience that they brought in and we found out they were hired from a mental institution
00:28:28.700 and like off the streets and stuff because they couldn't get not they didn't know how to get an
00:28:33.900 audience at cbs there that is a true story yeah they remember they was all mentally ill
00:28:40.460 and stuff and they'd be stealing toilet paper out of i don't remember that lady she goes hey
00:28:46.600 roseanne look i got my toilet paper and she'd hold it up in the crowd she told you yeah well we're lucky
00:28:53.320 that we weren't assaulted by yeah they were all crazy and i was trying to make them laugh their eyes
00:28:59.740 was going every witch away you know they're like oh you know what i'm sorry i'm gonna digress for one
00:29:06.420 second i forgot the part where when i was in the audience when you were trying the show out
00:29:13.620 and then that's i forgot that part i skipped yeah i have addd yeah and dyslexia okay so there was a
00:29:23.620 part where i went to the show for your thing and i was sitting in the front row and then she goes do you
00:29:29.840 have any questions she was walking around the audience and i go like this and she goes do i know
00:29:36.900 you that's what she said to me yeah and i was like in my head i heard no but you are gonna know me
00:29:45.140 and then i said what was your favorite pizza and then um after the show i was frozen everyone starts
00:29:53.680 leaving my friend's like if you don't get up there and give her your card this is before there was any
00:29:59.060 security around or any it was 1997 it was before 9 11 and i went up there on the stage i got on the
00:30:08.440 stage and she was in this big chair and everyone's like leaning over her going great job you did great
00:30:15.100 awesome beautiful blah blah and then i was on my knees in front of you on that chair and i go
00:30:21.840 this is my card i was uh i did beverly's hair and makeup at lana richie's party she told me you liked
00:30:29.980 my hair and makeup here's my card give me a call and i go that's not what you said at all you said i can
00:30:36.660 do your hair and i was gonna say okay then i go and you know what i think your hair and makeup look
00:30:43.720 like crap and i could do a better job now that's a salesperson and then she took my card and then
00:30:50.280 that that woman called me 20 because i did feel like i look like crap that guy was spraying shit on
00:30:57.520 my face like grout he was spraying like 14 levels of shit on my face and uh plucking and beating and
00:31:07.640 i did i you know i did a more natural no you're great you've been doing my mom's makeup since then
00:31:14.780 and everyone's always complimenting you know because you know why i like shannon because she
00:31:18.540 and we have to do a lesson for the older women i know because she can slap it on in 15 minutes yeah
00:31:25.580 and your hair in another 10 it's and that's what women our age and all ages really to do you don't
00:31:34.100 have like three hours to sit there can you give tips without showing like something you could tell
00:31:40.020 people that are watching yeah when you are older less is more moisturize moisturize tinted moisturizer
00:31:48.080 don't use a ton of foundation don't use a lot of powder more creams um if you have eyebrows and
00:31:56.540 eyelashes and liner that's really and then nude lips i mean you like a red lip which is fine you can do
00:32:07.040 you know accent one or the other one thing i liked you always said about older women is to keep your
00:32:12.580 hair long because a lot of women when they get that old they say they do that perm the short
00:32:15.920 perm it makes them look old speaking of which i took the toenail clippers to my hair yeah but i like
00:32:21.340 her hair now you don't like her hair i haven't seen it it's under a cap no it looks good show her
00:32:25.900 okay the unveiling i mean it's under a hat you did that with toenail clippers well she had it
00:32:31.080 i got it colored oh that's cute and it's like tozzly yeah i wanted it to look kind of punk rock
00:32:39.040 yeah because i thought i am punk rock you know and you cut it yourself they always try to make me look
00:32:46.020 all suburban and shit no that's awesome yeah right now it looks really cool right really yeah we were
00:32:53.120 telling you in vegas she looked awesome because i like this though like this in the back okay what's
00:32:58.160 that do shannon teach your tips um okay so like if you take your fingertips to the roots of your hair
00:33:04.120 like she was doing to the top let me try that yeah that like roughs it up and it's like teasing it
00:33:11.040 it makes it bigger oh yeah look at that oh i love it honey that's really yeah i like this
00:33:17.980 oh yeah she's my one of my idols debbie harry because you know what being conservative is kind
00:33:26.720 of like punk rock now it is absolutely it is no that's awesome oh my god i love it yeah oh cool
00:33:35.300 i didn't want you to say nothing so i left my hat on that's so cute you guys have been best
00:33:39.600 friends for 30 years and you're still shy about your head now um what about boyfriends
00:33:44.680 oh yeah you were the one that started on all that stuff i thought you were finally going to be
00:33:51.140 normal like me and not talk about sex all the time because that died and then you went and started
00:33:57.800 getting on the uh hormones and then you started being into sex again wait how do you make a hormone
00:34:05.240 kicker in the no this is your joke oh how do you make a hormone you
00:34:12.880 you don't pay her that ain't my joke you told me that i didn't write that well you told me that
00:34:20.740 how do you make a hormone you don't pay her no that ain't it anyway so you got on the pellet can
00:34:28.080 you tell the older because we have a lot of old women that listen to the show yeah so what tell
00:34:31.640 about you went and got on the testosterone right you lost your sex drive right yeah yes okay so and i
00:34:37.860 i liked her so much more yeah she was more available for shopping yeah she wasn't just
00:34:43.620 thinking about sex all the time like shannon always does she developed all i think about is shopping and
00:34:49.660 sex yeah so uh okay so you went on the hormones because i i thought you were crazy and my sister-in-law
00:34:59.000 hooked me up with a killer place and they're out of st louis in kansas city and so i get it's all of
00:35:08.480 course i have to pay out of pocket because it's all natural and it's good for you big pharma will
00:35:15.560 give you estrogen that gives you cancer and all of this shit i have to pay 500 no it's now 700
00:35:23.920 dollars every four months to get a pellet with estradiol which mimics estrogen and progesterone
00:35:31.880 which is a compounding pharmacy it's not like big pharma and um testosterone and is that it
00:35:40.500 estrogen it's a pellet right yeah put it in your and so i just got that like two weeks ago and um
00:35:47.900 i mean my can i like can i talk about my please yeah um when i before i got this and i had just met
00:35:59.200 my boyfriend i had a period then it stopped i was 50 then i was dry as the sahara desert i was like
00:36:08.060 um crepe paper up in my shit and it was terrible i would bleed and it hurt and i didn't want to have
00:36:16.080 sex anymore i had no sex drive it was dead then i remember i went to al pacino's house to do makeup
00:36:23.260 for his girlfriend and i started sweating profusely like on my mustache and my chest and i was like oh
00:36:30.260 my god what's happening the next day i curled my eyelashes they all broke off and i was like i don't
00:36:37.640 even know so i started googling it this is when google first came out in like 13 years ago or no
00:36:46.160 yeah 13 years ago and it was menopause and i did not know what that was because my mom had a
00:36:54.400 hysterectomy my mom no no one ever talked about menopause right right nobody did yeah and i mean did
00:37:01.920 you have hot flashes and everything oh yeah oh yeah all the time it was really weird but i
00:37:08.940 already was uncomfortable in my own body for my whole life so it wasn't shocking
00:37:14.140 you know just another day of the office yeah just another sweaty day i was like god now what's it doing
00:37:22.040 and so yeah then you know my boyfriend at the time was like okay what's happening but i still love you
00:37:33.120 and then i'm like i don't know you know whatever and we became friends first and then i got on that
00:37:41.200 pellet and i was like let's go i feel 25 yeah baby you know and it gave me more energy it gave me
00:37:51.100 more like you recommend it for the older ladies and i do i do it's bi-identical well i went on
00:37:59.740 some of that that joe rogan sent me to his doctor well they put me on the testosterone and estrogen
00:38:06.260 shots and a million other things not estrogen no no it's some kind of cream because there's a cream
00:38:14.320 where's that the testosterone the yam there's yam cream no but you know uh the testosterone though
00:38:20.540 talk about needing to shave with your five o'clock shadow mine i've shaved twice today i know yeah
00:38:28.120 it does bring in the beard and it does bring in the mustache because okay i did laser hair removal
00:38:37.140 and i have a lot of white hairs thank god no i'm and it doesn't remove the white hairs it only removes
00:38:44.300 the black and mine are mostly white like here i have like a full i mean and i'm starting to get it
00:38:52.420 over here now yeah i shaved there i shaved my whole face like a guy i do too i'll never forget i saw her
00:38:59.040 in the shower and she was like
00:39:02.200 puffing her face out shaving that's crazy no one ever talks about this this is good stuff i mean you
00:39:10.920 should see my uh chops your sideburns covered in full yeah she's got like all of his sideburns
00:39:18.620 i have to shave that actually can you know every four days i really do would you be willing to not
00:39:23.900 shave for a month just so i could see well i have so many chin hairs you wouldn't know have you ever
00:39:28.900 plucked like if they come in if you get long enough i'll spend like an hour i do that every day and i'll
00:39:35.900 just cry my and i think these ones the uh soul patch they hurt oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i got those
00:39:43.080 japanese razors those pink ones that's just single edge no i use the single edge japanese razors because
00:39:50.280 they go they're good is that like a derma plane almost yeah no i've plucked these right here and
00:39:57.680 they oh honey i want to tell people when i got that face thing when i drove oh that's great and we
00:40:05.880 haven't even gotten to the academy sorry we got to speed it up yeah we're gonna go we got to suffer
00:40:09.960 an ad too so we got what we have to do one more ad okay when now it's a you want to tell the story
00:40:15.560 and then do the ad or no do let's get the ad over with and then we'll tell the drugstores oh my god
00:40:20.780 this is going so well dude it's great you guys are great um also there's not very many podcasts where
00:40:26.960 women are talking about shaving their face this is a first this is for diet smoke yeah and this is our
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00:42:17.280 wanting you to tell uh jake hasn't heard this story when i got what was that called honey the facial
00:42:23.260 uh i got done the chemical peel you talked me into getting botox that's how it all started and then we
00:42:30.740 went and fillers and then they did like a laser on your face you told me go get that laser and so
00:42:40.500 they lasered her entire face and they gave her valium to keep her calm and her picture her face
00:42:49.520 swelled up like a pumpkin it was spooky and we get in the car she had just gotten a new tesla
00:42:57.100 this was years ago you had that blue one oh yeah here ready check this out guys
00:43:02.320 that one can you see it you don't see nothing you don't see it
00:43:07.880 yeah yes this one oh my god no not that oh yeah that one yeah oh i was scared when i saw her i was
00:43:19.600 like yeah it was really scary it was really scary and then her face like swelled up like a pumpkin
00:43:26.400 and then peeled but it looked good afterwards yeah right yeah um but anyway so they gave her
00:43:33.620 valium and she had just gotten the new tesla and she goes i'm driving bitch and i go no you're not
00:43:41.220 i'm driving no you're not bitch this is my new car i'm not i'm driving so she does she pulls a ue
00:43:49.400 i'm pico and she's like driving you know and it goes from zero to 60 in three seconds and she hits
00:43:57.580 this lady in front of us oh my god and then the lady pulls over and then your mom pulls over and
00:44:05.720 i'm like oh no this isn't gonna go very well and so i look at the lady's bumper and i'm like
00:44:11.120 there isn't any damage she's gonna mess this whole thing up floor it and she pulls out and
00:44:20.460 like 60 in three seconds and and then floors it back home and we were just like laughing our balls
00:44:28.980 off oh i hope that lady doesn't find me it was a black tesla yeah and uh you know there was no
00:44:38.280 damage to it dude i love your hair i've never seen your hair look so cool oh thank you yeah we
00:44:46.600 how'd you get so much texture in it oh i bought this texture you did have someone cut it though
00:44:52.380 right originally you just cleaned it up didn't you well i cut all hers off oh okay no you did it like
00:44:59.120 to make how you want it yeah i want to look how i want oh my god i've never seen your hair look so
00:45:07.380 good that's really my favorite haircut that's you really that's you i feel like it's me yeah and
00:45:14.660 the color i love it's like platinum yeah it's platinum to cover the gray i love it yeah it's
00:45:23.360 really uh and then you've got to do like black eyes you know like that's that'll be punk if you
00:45:30.620 this is like all punky and then black remember how remember when i was at cbgb in new york yes
00:45:40.000 it's like remember that outfit that was a cool look leather it was all leather you you know what i just
00:45:45.740 got good american and she's has you know she's all inclusive and i got a black shell and black you
00:45:53.520 know they're vegan leather but they're like so soft and like form love good american yeah you have it
00:46:01.780 what's vegan leather it's like fake leather but it's really soft i had i was putting on some uh
00:46:09.320 vegan leather bermuda shorts with pockets are so cute and uh i got up to they're old and i got up to
00:46:19.240 walk and by god half of them were still sitting on the chair when i got up to walk away
00:46:24.100 that that shit peels off yeah it does if it's in humidity yeah it made me mad well and they're old
00:46:34.080 yeah it peels off all right now tell me about new york when when you made my mother do the kid
00:46:39.180 oh yeah we always get we always party down in new york we like to go we like to party in new york
00:46:45.080 yes we love new york we love new york and we're shopping oh tell about when we went to bergdorf
00:46:53.560 goodman when we okay one of the times when we went to bergdorf was that when we did the mdma yes
00:47:01.120 in the bathroom on the toilet uh it's like the sex in the city reboot i put that you know the silver
00:47:09.800 stainless steel toilet thing that's flat so i laid out like little sprinkles of it and we would
00:47:15.600 just lick it and then we'd go wait a minute you made my mother do drugs off a toilet is that what
00:47:21.440 no no the toy the the toilet paper thing oh just the toilet paper okay yeah no it's the top no one
00:47:30.000 touches the top just the toilet paper roll in a public bathroom it was just the tips
00:47:34.000 so you guys are doing drugs in a bathroom in new york and then bergdorf goodman and then we
00:47:40.280 shot for like nine solid hours right and walk the streets of new york and i remember there was a guy
00:47:47.160 playing like the um pale the plastic pale and he was bongoing and then there was another guy dancing
00:47:53.760 and we were just like whoa this is so cool and you're like i love this
00:48:00.240 and then we did the k the ketamine she calls it ketamine it's ketamine right oh yes and um so we
00:48:13.860 were staying at the peninsula and then i said hey let's do the ketamine and she looked so good it was
00:48:21.700 it was february 14th she had a red jumpsuit on red lips her black glasses and we're walking the streets
00:48:30.080 like aimlessly high as fuck and then can i say the f word okay and then she's like oh what are we
00:48:38.640 gonna do and then there was this guy and when those pedal biking canopy things and he was playing like
00:48:46.540 rihanna or something yeah it was real and i was like let's go on that we're like okay so then i go okay
00:48:56.580 how much is this and he goes it's like 50 and 20 minutes for 20 minutes and you're like i have money
00:49:04.100 don't worry about it and so we he took us through times square and all the lights and the you know
00:49:12.960 the billboards and he was remember he was swerving yeah he was so fun he was so fun he was like a seven
00:49:20.100 foot black guy from uganda and he was so cool and then she goes stop here i want to dance
00:49:28.200 and then we got out and we danced at our butts off right there in new york city and then so fun there
00:49:37.080 was an ambulance coming and she pretended to freak out which i didn't know she was pretending
00:49:43.620 oh i was getting way into the drama of new york she was like like freaking out and i was like oh no
00:49:51.700 because i thought you were too high or something and i kind of freaked out and then you go i'm acting
00:49:57.960 and then you started dancing again do you guys want to watch a uh a video of what of this night
00:50:04.720 oh yeah you guys into it uh-huh yes all right give me one second all right this is the infamous
00:50:10.320 keter mean night yeah here we go time square
00:50:14.400 time is truly wasting
00:50:17.680 there's no guarantee
00:50:21.920 dollars in the bank
00:50:24.980 dollars in the bank
00:50:26.940 dollars in the bank
00:50:28.980 giving up all around me
00:50:35.760 i don't know
00:50:45.360 this is before the rogue and matrix
00:50:48.480 before you got the stem cells you had to get help
00:50:50.400 that doesn't show me dancing on my part i was way better i thought you were i thought you were
00:51:08.160 great you twerked please i tried to twerk remember where was it that i twerked and then they had to
00:51:14.320 wheel me out in san antonio right oh yeah can i tell a story yeah mom did stand up in san antonio
00:51:20.480 were you there yes you were there that night she was yeah she had the flannel shirt mom went on
00:51:26.000 stage and uh started twerking usually she'll she'll ease into the act yeah she went right up she was
00:51:33.340 feeling cold and she twerked and she got real low and twerked and then couldn't get up and people
00:51:37.980 from the audience had to get up and help her up but to your credit you then did like an hour and
00:51:43.500 40 minute set after right that's how i remember it uh-huh and then at the end of the set you
00:51:48.940 couldn't get off the stage and they had to put you on an office chair and wait for everyone to
00:51:52.220 leave and then we had to wheel you out we had to wheel you out yeah i hurt myself hurt myself bad
00:51:56.780 yeah well then you got the stem cell
00:51:59.020 no it's my knees oh yeah they gave out holding this wait you have stem cell yeah good for you
00:52:05.720 that's is it illegal here or did you know these are these aren't no they're not that kind of you
00:52:12.020 can take that out if you want it's out of your own blood oh okay because um my friend
00:52:17.640 needs she had her own blood stem cells put in her shoulder because her shoulder hurts but she goes i
00:52:23.940 think i'm gonna go to another country because it is it out of the baby's umbilical cord or something
00:52:30.960 the other stem cells the good stuff yeah i don't know i don't want to do that no well you can when
00:52:36.820 you have a baby you can keep the placenta i'm kind of over the hill to have a baby well i might have
00:52:42.920 another baby and you can have the placenta oh good oh good yeah that's cool i would do that for you
00:52:47.900 you need another grandchild i know it's awesome you are spreading the wealth and your see your
00:52:55.560 like legacy your eggs my eggs your eggs are cooked what what else have we done oh well let's see other
00:53:05.880 drugs we've done was we did the mushrooms in the uh forest there the volcanic forest the volcanic
00:53:14.220 forest in pahoa is that hawaii hawaii on the big island yeah yes i never got to do drugs when i was
00:53:21.440 younger yeah tell i was so i you know i do them with shannon because i want to experience she feels
00:53:27.800 safe with me yeah because i never did the mushrooms but then i did them with shannon and we went to the
00:53:34.700 uh volcanic forest and it was well it was just beautiful it was really cool i didn't really feel
00:53:41.480 anything though for one minute i did no you felt something it was it just felt trippy we didn't do
00:53:50.200 enough i didn't want to get too high where shit's dripping like you know yeah but remember you were
00:53:56.460 in the store and yeah i saw the buddha went 3d a poster of the buddha got all 3d jumped out at you
00:54:05.460 yeah yeah that was all i ever then i drove home for four hours so i wasn't i don't even know how
00:54:12.280 you drove i didn't really feel much he's probably like half a block away and took four hours no
00:54:17.460 right four hours we drove i love to drive i did mushrooms once in high school yeah and it was i
00:54:25.660 went camping with my buddy and um we were really safe and i never told you this story but uh it was
00:54:32.420 really funny because i took the mushrooms and then i started hallucinating he had really pretty eyes
00:54:37.020 he had ice blue eyes and i was feeling good and i looked at him and i was like you have beautiful
00:54:42.460 eyes thinking like we're a couple bros you know hanging out i can be honest he got so scared that
00:54:46.900 i was gonna have like trying to have gay sex with him that he ran into the woods and i didn't see
00:54:50.940 him till the next morning he hid from me in the woods thinking i was gonna try no sex with him
00:54:54.360 that was my oh my god and that's sad i was just being nice to a friend like really pretty eyes
00:54:59.600 your son misunderstood whatever but that was my after that i said i'm never doing dark skin but i
00:55:06.260 well then we did okay so one of your sons made the the butter oh yeah the pot brownies and she made
00:55:16.880 pot brownies oh they were good weren't they well shannon couldn't handle it she only took a little
00:55:23.120 tiny bite of it and freaked out like a plebe i passed out on the ground and you kicked me and
00:55:30.960 said you you can't hang with the big dogs when was this she kicked me terrible and i had was making
00:55:40.220 linguine and clams yeah i ate that that's when i i just that's what passed me out like i that was so
00:55:48.340 good though i think it was all the butter and i had to poop or something that's what i remember
00:55:53.140 sorry i'm so glad you brought that up i'm sorry um but no i mean the shopping i think it's cool that
00:56:00.820 you're having like a second adolescence because you never did that you had you had three kids by the
00:56:04.240 time you were like 25 or something so now you're getting four 24 you had three of us right or four
00:56:09.240 four and then you're like you got famous you're married no this is your this is your like adolescence
00:56:16.080 it kind of is because like i was a mom by the time i was five you were like raising my younger
00:56:21.100 sister and helping out like that i was the old oldest kid so i had to kind of be the junior mom
00:56:28.160 and i always was ultra responsible so i never got a party life and then you had to work and you
00:56:34.720 had four kids and you worked i so i said oh my 60s i'm gonna party and i did i love that i want
00:56:41.420 you to talk about that if you could i think that's such a cool well just there's a lot of probably older
00:56:44.960 people older women especially listen to the show that have never really yeah once your kids are
00:56:48.740 raised it's time to raise the roof get the ketamine up you don't get the ketamine yeah do all
00:56:54.100 that stuff well and it's legal here isn't it yeah oh with the with the doctor's note yes yeah you got
00:57:01.700 to go to a ketamine clinic no i know um it's it's but it does lift your mood for sure she said
00:57:08.880 i feel so good it's almost like i feel normal and i can be around people yeah i didn't i lost fear of
00:57:16.500 like an anxiety yeah yeah because i have anxiety around humans but uh yeah i think that your 60s and
00:57:25.700 70s should be all party i think we should all party our way out fuck this hospice care yeah and
00:57:32.540 that shit dying comfortably party your fucking way out that's why i was glad for your mom your mom went
00:57:39.300 that way she partied her way out to the last day dude she just she didn't want to go to the hospital
00:57:46.040 she knew something was wrong she went in they gave her morphine 10 days later it was all over
00:57:52.680 like why do you want to sit and rot in some yeah i like why do you want to find out your
00:58:00.300 you know you're dying it's like you know something's wrong okay go party till you like it's 1999 yeah
00:58:07.500 where were you in 1999 you know when the um new year's eve why to you know to 2000
00:58:14.800 um well wasn't that when i went to israel the first time i don't know yeah i wasn't i was working
00:58:22.360 yeah i don't know i can't remember you're kidding that's a monumental i know and i thought it was a
00:58:29.260 monumental date too but i can't remember where i was i'll have to look it up my friend marianne who
00:58:36.280 has cut your hair before you know marianne she was cutting adam sandler's wife's hair and she invited
00:58:43.240 her and her guests which was me to the bel-air to their party was it fun it was super fun kathy
00:58:52.120 bates was there quentin tarantino charlize theron winona rider um fiona apple david spade it was just
00:59:00.700 like we were high on on ecstasy sitting in the entryway by the fireplace watching everyone walk in
00:59:09.880 and then we went in and you know they were playing 1999 it was really cool you know and
00:59:17.060 um quentin tarantino smelled like vo i imagine that's probably how it is who's the weirdest
00:59:24.240 celebrity you've met that blew your mind for weird besides mom
00:59:27.640 ha ha oh god do you think of any weird and what way like just the most mind-blowing not what you
00:59:40.100 thought
00:59:40.580 god honey i'd have to think about i i'm drawing a blank right now i don't really want to
00:59:47.980 say who they were just say what they did comedians yeah comedians are the weirdest yes even more than
01:00:01.460 rock stars yeah yeah comedians are the weirdest by far they're worse than actors for the most yeah i
01:00:08.880 did meet a girl the other day that she was a nanny for the guy that created mtv and i don't even know
01:00:15.840 her so and i don't know him and she said the most narcissist that she'd ever met because she was at
01:00:24.640 their hamptons house nannying was oh my girlfriend used to go with him right remember yes and he's
01:00:36.940 gorgeous he is gorgeous yeah well i guess you have to be a little narcissistic to you know end up that
01:00:44.860 big well rock stars you want that adoration yeah well plus they have that energy they put off
01:00:51.180 we've both been with narcissists yeah more than one do you think you're like an expert on dating
01:00:58.020 narcissists like you can give tips i always want i want you guys to give tips that's what i'm getting
01:01:02.580 at do you know any tips don't fall for it like yeah what does it seem too good to be true
01:01:08.500 that's because it is okay here's the thing that i keep seeing on all those id channels
01:01:13.460 they love you so much they tell you how great you are how beautiful how much they love you
01:01:20.800 love bombing in the beginning and then they've got you hooked and then it starts the
01:01:28.720 slow burn yeah the slow trying to control yeah trying to uh no we know you can't ladies do not
01:01:39.980 let anyone control you and keep you away from your family and friends and isolate you
01:01:46.960 yeah that is control it's a telltale sign right what other telltale signs
01:01:51.680 the love bombing love bombing is big that's the biggest and what if it's someone who's just
01:01:59.600 romantic though at the beginning that's where i can't tell the difference that's a tough my shit's
01:02:03.840 all fucked up you gotta tell me why the narcissistic love bombing is worse than just the usual like
01:02:08.700 affection early on in a relationship you've got to figure that one out one of you yeah i don't
01:02:13.620 know we gotta help people here i think if they're it wears off when it's not when it's narcissist
01:02:22.660 it wears off when someone really loves you they tell you all the time like i've been with him for 13
01:02:31.760 years we always are like i love you i love you you know and it's like it was in the beginning it's even
01:02:38.760 more now because it's like we're stronger we started out like friends because you know and then now it's
01:02:45.420 more like i love you so much i respect you i want to be there for you they don't have that they're all
01:02:53.500 about themselves so it turns around from i love you i love you to love me love me show me care for me
01:03:02.740 right i don't know exactly i don't know what the difference is between being romantic and like
01:03:09.940 love bombing i don't know that's a good thing to think about and look into i just know that
01:03:16.440 it's all around flattery yes to know the difference between flattery and genuine
01:03:24.900 caring care maybe if it's is it like if it's true like can you tell like meaning like
01:03:32.600 are they just flattering you things they know you want to hear are they actually like
01:03:35.660 complimenting something that's true about yourself i think they figure out what you want to hear right
01:03:40.640 but what if it's not true then right i'm well then you don't then it won't work it has to be true
01:03:48.220 okay or it won't work you know flattery has to work this haircut makes you look so young i think a
01:03:55.080 good telltale sign from a narcissist is if if you really start decoding what they're saying
01:03:59.740 you'll realize it's really because they're narcissists everything is about a reflection
01:04:04.460 upon themselves yes so the compliment to you is how you make them look better you make them
01:04:09.980 remember that's never about you you guys remember the greek mythology narcissist looking at his own
01:04:16.780 self in the glit the mirror of the modern narcissist but i get i always get the ones that like they
01:04:26.000 it's so funny because it's like it it's like they're always calling me a narcissist because i'm famous
01:04:34.500 so it's like i think they get attracted to me because i'm famous and then they can project their
01:04:42.500 narcissism onto me and then go oh you're such a narcissist because all you care about is is
01:04:49.340 you know working to bring money in right right or something that's interesting and they wanna because
01:04:57.840 you got famous you're a narcissist well they want your stardom they're you know they want your star
01:05:07.240 yeah they start thinking that they um well i mean one of the ones i was with
01:05:12.280 they start thinking they are you and they are the star well he thought he was me and like always
01:05:23.260 mentioned my name in every conversation to like steer it so that it became about him and not me my
01:05:31.280 accomplishments um but it was uh you know it's about gaslighting it's like
01:05:39.200 it's some ugly shit there's a lot of videos on youtube about it yeah you said you've been kind of
01:05:45.920 studying yeah do you remember anything or specific i feel like you could really help a lot of people
01:05:53.500 that's what she sent me some and they remember any of it they say um after
01:05:59.740 huh i'll look some up too okay well they're they're looking for a replacement for their mom
01:06:08.240 and they had a bad relationship with her so they're looking to correct it with you
01:06:14.540 but what they're really looking for is a replay of what they had with mom because they can't
01:06:22.080 really they don't really want to fix it or they're incapable of it so they're just reliving it you
01:06:28.540 know that's a lot of ptsd stuff so it's like their their goal in the long run is to make you
01:06:36.540 reject them so they can feel victimized that that's what they're after so they can go i knew you'd leave
01:06:45.460 but after they do so many offensive things to you to push you away to where you'll either react
01:06:56.220 out of your own anger and hurt or you know just move away because they drove you to it
01:07:03.300 but they don't ever think it's their fault and they gaslight everything so you and then go how come
01:07:09.320 you're not um you know it's all your your fault so how come you are rejecting me well
01:07:17.380 you know and they use all your shit against you to gaslight you so that you think it's your fault
01:07:25.120 not them and they never think it's their fault nothing check this out it's so crazy the nine
01:07:31.020 signs you're dating a narcissist charming first impression can you read that or is it too small
01:07:35.060 no it's too small well i'll just tell you guys hogging the conversation oh yeah feeding off
01:07:42.060 compliments it's all stuff you guys were talking about yes um lacking empathy yes no long-term
01:07:47.660 friends uh picking on you gaslighting you and number nine coming in number nine thinking they're right
01:07:58.380 i have most of these oh yeah yeah i got a lot of yeah maybe we're maybe well they say that there's
01:08:05.640 a little bit of a narcissist in people who are with narcissists yeah i mean i think everybody has
01:08:12.260 narcissistic tendencies at some point but it's also gaslighting because it's like yeah you'd see
01:08:17.460 well obviously i have narcissistic tendencies because you know i made myself into this
01:08:23.560 star you do and uh so i'm always thinking about
01:08:28.560 you know my show yeah or my act or something you're on stage in your head yeah which is kind
01:08:37.640 of narcissistic but that's a tendency that's not like a clinical thing but then you know that's kind
01:08:42.300 of an artist too so right i don't know where the line is is how you relate to other people absolutely
01:08:48.440 but i think that i do have empathy for people and you do i do have feeling for people i i've seen
01:08:55.380 you cry it's often that that's used against you it's like well how can we have empathy for everyone
01:09:03.680 but me they say well because they're not treating me like shit you know they don't ever get that part
01:09:12.060 no i you are a tender very loving very giving person and you help so many people and like i remember
01:09:24.920 thinking when i started to get to know you you have this hard outer shell but underneath you're just
01:09:30.960 like this soft loving person who i mean like when i have seen you cry it tears my heart out because
01:09:39.460 you you you put up such a tough persona what she's more of a soft outer shell with the hard
01:09:47.980 no but i'm just saying that you know i was really afraid of the character that i didn't know when i
01:09:59.500 first met her i was very afraid of her and like ball buster oh and then i got to know her and like
01:10:08.600 she's a softy underneath it all she's like anybody else who has a heart and loves and
01:10:16.180 is kind and caring and i think that you are not a narcissist in the way that others that they lack
01:10:27.040 the empathy and the caring and you know how to treat people i think that's true you have maternal
01:10:35.160 empathy you're that you have a soul narcissists do not they're sociopathic sociopathic yes so you're
01:10:42.980 saying you have narcissistic tendencies but you're yes well anyone who is a star well a lot of people
01:10:49.600 i mean i have them i'm not famous like i think everybody has some of it it's when it's it's how
01:10:54.740 you relate to other people when it's affecting your relationships when you're lacking empathy when
01:10:57.840 you're like a fucking sociopath and then it might be a problem but if you yeah you like being the
01:11:02.660 center and manipulative yeah really manipulative to you know manipulate your emotions against you
01:11:10.060 and you don't really see it though because you got yeah pushing your buttons on purpose knowing
01:11:15.380 which ones to press well that's why i think it's good for you guys to talk about like i said your
01:11:18.780 audience is primarily women i look at the numbers and like oh really oh and i'm sure that you know
01:11:23.640 men are with women can be the worst narcissist well it is a you know and you know have you guys seen
01:11:30.100 the golden bachelor yeah i did it's the bachelor but there's 70 he's 71 tell me about yeah oh dude
01:11:37.540 you gotta watch i'm into it because some of there's two of the women that are total g-milfs and that's
01:11:42.080 two more than i expected they're like 70 two of them are gorgeous john goes why do i want to watch
01:11:48.060 a bunch of old bags i go because they're like my age yeah but it's so funny the beginning that he's
01:11:56.400 putting on his suit and his cufflinks and he puts in his hearing aids yeah oh how cute i know and then
01:12:02.700 it's so sad his wife died they were married 43 years and he starts crying she had the bacterial
01:12:10.320 thing that went through her whole body anyway and then like it's seven years later and there's
01:12:16.060 one of them looks like caitlin jenner did you notice that yeah he needs to vote for her off
01:12:21.180 she's got to go i can't even look at her it totally looks like caitlin it actually looks more like
01:12:25.360 caitlin than caitlin if that makes sense i don't know how to describe it thank you no it's so fun
01:12:30.140 and these chicks are it's kind of embarrassing as a woman of our age they're like throwing themselves
01:12:37.240 out they're your age in fact you both would be very very attractive on the show maybe you could be
01:12:43.160 the golden bachelorette oh my god he keeps telling me to go oh dude we need to pitch this golden
01:12:49.840 bachelorette celebrity bachelorette you need to go a bachelorette golden bachelorette in paradise
01:12:55.860 oh mg this is amazing do i have to take my clothes off no it's a tasteful show that's what's good about
01:13:02.360 it no no you have to marry someone oh dude this is okay if anyone at abc oh no it's an abc show
01:13:10.200 okay no it'll be like a hulu have you guys seen naked attraction no what's that no you know what
01:13:18.300 they had a skate fest they had a row a naked roast where i didn't get i couldn't stay up that late but
01:13:26.040 they were taking their clothes off and then roasting each other naked how horrifying bodies
01:13:31.400 yeah is that horrifying it was a big fat guy and he was all excited to get up there he was
01:13:36.920 walking you through and he's like i'm gonna be a naked roast and he looked like me but even fatter
01:13:41.280 no about 50 pounds and he was like i'm going up tonight and mom's like naked and he's like yeah
01:13:46.420 i'm gonna roast me and it's like what the fuck is wrong with this guy that's my biggest nightmare
01:13:50.440 that would be the worst that would be the worst i almost wanted to go on there for a minute i
01:13:55.920 thought if i have another drink or two i'm so glad i got you out of here it's on max formerly
01:14:02.520 i told hannah about it yeah um so it's a british and those guys are freaks yeah they are and like
01:14:10.720 they're all well three of them were uncircumcised and the one guy had an elephant ears and eyes and
01:14:19.420 then the trunk was the uncircumcised trunk you mean tattoo yeah so imagine his dick is uncircumcised
01:14:27.120 with the balls hanging down and then there was big elephant ears tattoo with eyes so it looked like
01:14:32.720 an elephant that's nice show sounds great and so they're so they're in boxes and they show them from
01:14:39.700 here down oh yeah and then she goes so old i saw this years ago and how did it's on now do they pick
01:14:46.900 so they pick like she eliminates it's like down and she's like oh that's too big of a willy i didn't
01:14:54.760 oh my god and then they show their stomach and the one guy that she picked had a fake leg
01:15:00.120 with the elephant tattoo and um then the next girl was bisexual they had three girls and three boys
01:15:07.820 and the girls in england apparently are all shaved like a little baby gross and you know they're all
01:15:16.020 uncircumcised the women too well yeah no it sounds horrifying but then so they're just picking a pair
01:15:25.620 of genitals for their then they show their stomach then they show their face and hear their voice and
01:15:30.480 then they pick who they want to go out with and then they meet on a date fully clothed so they're nude at
01:15:36.680 first and then the person picking has to come out nude too so it's like your dates mine yeah
01:15:43.800 no but i do think you could be the golden celebrity bachelorette i think there's something to it i think
01:15:56.080 this could be well you could go on the golden bachelorette as because it's like it's like 35
01:16:00.260 women compete for one guy but you you you know it would be her with their no it's 20 did you notice
01:16:07.560 there's less girls on the older one because they can't handle as many not just that like there how
01:16:14.240 many attractive 70 year old women are there there's like 17 on the planet what about the chick that
01:16:20.680 prince wrote sexy dancer for yeah that's what she said i don't i don't believe it i didn't believe it
01:16:27.240 when she said there was one though that's there's only one problem with that is that i don't wish to
01:16:32.220 date or meet anyone really no you've had it did we break a major story on your podcast we're kind
01:16:38.720 of talking around it i mean oh that i'm single now no one knows ladies and it's all amicable and
01:16:46.720 friendly we're not yeah it's all friendly yeah and we weren't talking about anyone specific early
01:16:51.060 you've been no we weren't actually tom arnold you were talking about with that one time
01:16:55.780 a lot of relationships yeah um so congrats on being single i say this to everybody whenever i
01:17:03.100 meet someone they're like oh i just got a divorce i'm like congrats dude that's the greatest fucking
01:17:06.740 thing that's ever going to happen to you so if you're out of a relationship i just got to the
01:17:09.980 point being 70 and soon to be 71 the rest of my life i don't know how long i have but
01:17:16.720 i certainly don't want to be you know listening to someone
01:17:21.820 you know i don't i don't listen to the same old same i just want to be on my own to you know
01:17:29.760 have what's left of my life just for me i know but here's my kids and grandkids when i want to
01:17:37.640 let's just say but i want to travel and uh you know i mean i got invited to uh go to some
01:17:44.640 interesting places and i'm fine to go with other old women and uh i just like to be man free
01:17:52.720 i like it in my life yeah you've been with a man pretty much for once in my life i've always been
01:17:59.300 with a partner man you've been single three years since you were 18 i believe total yeah
01:18:04.860 yeah it's time for me to uh yeah it's true it's time for me to just be me and and move on with
01:18:13.780 yourself yeah i want to take care of myself and for whatever amount of time i have left on this
01:18:20.260 planet i want to write i want to write okay and i just want my free time to be free i think that's
01:18:27.720 great okay so it's not any you know it's not like my marriages which were horrible you know
01:18:38.760 but you have five wonderful children no two um and i have grandchildren grandchildren yes i have
01:18:46.980 lovely women friends and uh you know some nice men friends too yeah and i'm never wanting for company
01:18:53.640 you know in fact i the only thing i really i do like being alone it's really weird but i do and
01:19:01.500 especially since i came to hollywood and started that whole career deal i've never had enough alone
01:19:08.380 time i've always had to be working or doing something supporting that work or you know some other kind
01:19:16.480 of thing that you know dog legs into it publicity or interviews or whatever but this is just i just
01:19:24.260 want to go to spas and lay somewhere yeah you know and i thought you're gonna say lay someone
01:19:30.180 no i just want to lay on the beach and uh yeah and you never know guess where we're gonna be next
01:19:36.200 month i mean we're in florida check the tour dates yeah oh yeah i'm really looking forward to that
01:19:42.140 gonna be meeting the man i'm meeting the big man the t-man the big guy oh boy the big big man
01:19:51.260 this is exciting no no not the big guy and the criminal the big no not the big guy no trumpster
01:19:58.300 yeah wow that's exciting so excited that's why i want you to come tomorrow and help me pack okay i've
01:20:04.120 got to get i've got to get my perfect trump meeting outfit you know because i i am gonna go to
01:20:10.300 you need to look like classic official commanding respect like you know it can't you're not gonna
01:20:23.160 dress quirky you're gonna no i'm not gonna be respectful there won't be respectful there won't
01:20:29.000 be any quirk in this one it'll be oh my god drop dead uh look at that i have a picture
01:20:40.020 an actual photo that you can hold of you at tavern on the green with trump on our talk show
01:20:49.720 i took snapshots you know i don't know how come i don't have a copy of that i think i gave it to you
01:20:56.120 you better give me another one because i lost it that's at home and i'll i'll just take a snapshot
01:21:01.640 of it do you think i love that you always have the better photos of my career and life than i do
01:21:08.500 and then sometimes you'll think of it and i oh here's you with sammy davis jr no no no i have you
01:21:14.780 with muhammad ali and i don't yeah what's that uh tony curtis and um what was the little jewish guy
01:21:22.640 that died uh jackie mason jackie mason thank you yeah you remember that no i just know i thought you
01:21:31.100 were there at remember tony curtis i told you all that story yeah we talked about on this very
01:21:36.800 podcast your date with tony curtis and the driving clubs and that's when you admitted that you also
01:21:41.020 had a crush on donald john trump so you might be able to make a move in this florida no he's a
01:21:47.020 married man that doesn't mean shit no i'm not going to i i won't mess with a married man i'll keep
01:21:54.220 or a single man or any kind of man uh but no i would never be so presumptuous as to think that i
01:22:02.180 had a chance with donald john trump when i look at his gorgeous wife well can you imagine hold on
01:22:09.740 just for a second if if something did happen you and donald trump became an item what that would do
01:22:16.400 to this country and just fucking how great that would be like kelsey and taylor swift it would be
01:22:21.440 no way because he has melania she's only the most gorgeous yeah she's gorgeous yeah but he gets
01:22:27.320 bored of that he's been with pretty women like i said that when we're talking about dating he's been
01:22:30.740 with beautiful women he maybe wants to try something new i asked him on the talk show have you ever
01:22:36.220 been with a fat woman remember what did he say he said no he never said well hell you ought to give
01:22:44.460 it a try bud yeah but he wasn't interested okay hypothetically speaking if a like a
01:22:51.380 james broland type started there are no james broland type interest there's only james broland
01:22:58.740 and you must behold him and that's all there is to it she's not ready to ask her in a year let her
01:23:05.200 enjoy yourself yeah yeah yeah okay okay say some more that i might be interested in he would show
01:23:10.660 interest but he was why does he love barbara you know it's that is the perfect thing she's got going
01:23:19.480 for herself there this guy is gorgeous he's you know talented he's successful he's very bright
01:23:29.920 and he was he charming oh yeah did he talk to you at the like yeah he came on my show i remember that
01:23:39.120 and uh he's funny his son is really cute and a good actor too good but uh you know he adores
01:23:49.760 every word that comes out of her mouth i mean he adores fingernail remember her fingernails are like
01:23:58.060 yeah but he you know he's kind of an ideal sort i see you with that like gray haired cowboy
01:24:08.860 type that's what i want for her like a texas oil man howdy miss rosie i'm gonna get her back to
01:24:17.140 texas well out there i i've given up i don't think there's any yeah when you give up is when god
01:24:24.140 that's when it happens and if she's not on the pellet it doesn't matter anyway i don't know what
01:24:28.520 they'll expect of me and uh you know who knows if i could fulfill it you know i probably can't
01:24:34.860 so i probably can't i probably can't you know please any man really because i'm just you don't
01:24:47.080 know what you're capable of no i can't because i just you know i mean it's a 20 year we're all
01:24:53.920 being a little i was thinking about this yesterday we're being a little insensitive because everyone
01:24:56.920 keeps asking her this i mean it's a 20 year relationship it's yeah when are you gonna fuck
01:25:00.860 someone new give her yeah no no no i know but when you get on the pellet eventually and it comes
01:25:07.160 roaring back i hope it's my sex drive i'm terrified that i would receive a sex drive again yeah it's not
01:25:14.660 fun i wish i could get rid of it i was looking we were having some um latino men putting in a screen
01:25:21.720 in porridge on her and i was like clicking i'm like really since you got on the testy testy and i told
01:25:33.320 my i went you know last week and i said i still i'm like cuckoo for cocoa puffs and she said really
01:25:40.560 well you didn't have to come back in and i said i don't know and she goes well you know just wait
01:25:46.360 if it's if it starts to wane but i'm like you're always like that yeah i don't know you any other
01:25:55.460 way well you were always like that except for those few fun years those few fun years no but i mean
01:26:04.200 i mean i guess i'm happy for you that you've found your verve and zest for life her calling
01:26:10.560 in love but i just don't see myself doing i just i don't see myself really ever having sexual
01:26:18.420 relations again in my life what if you met a guy that said i love you i want you to eat all the
01:26:23.860 cuticle meat off my fingers no i don't want to eat anyone else cuticle meat but my own only your own
01:26:30.160 what if he's like i get so turned on i just want to watch you eat the cuticle meat off your fingers
01:26:35.020 and i'll cook you dinner and you can watch bit shoot ew well now this is how you get her into
01:26:40.640 what bit shoot hillary clinton videos the storm is coming i want you to watch q videos and eat your
01:26:49.480 finger and i'll bring you food wait well now that might do it do you think the donald is q still
01:26:55.700 he's q plus because you had that theory yeah no i always said he was q plus
01:27:03.160 now where do you see us in 2024 who me and you or the world the world well me and you will always
01:27:12.100 be hanging out having fun 2024 i see well you have to ask me what the first half or the second half
01:27:20.800 is there a better part of it or no well just give us both we need both i think it's going to
01:27:28.980 continue to be very chaotic and uh this is your prediction okay and uh i think that people really
01:27:41.160 need to pray with other people particularly people outside of their own particular prayer circle okay
01:27:48.640 because um obviously to me i'm going to say this and it's going to make people mad obviously none of
01:27:55.440 our prayers are working yeah i was gonna say that and so i think it's time for something new
01:28:00.860 prayer is not based on hatred and ego and uh prayers with people outside you can honest prayers
01:28:08.300 uh for uh uniting humanity against a cult of death that has us all marked as prey and uh p-r-e-y
01:28:20.600 and i think that as soon as we can do that the better it'll be and the happier we'll be and if we
01:28:28.820 come to that conclusion soon it'll be to our favor and uh there'll be less chaos because you know
01:28:38.860 we need to get on top of our chaos inside ourselves and therefore when we do that therefore it won't
01:28:48.860 occur in the world when people realize that that's what it's really all about this body and this mind
01:28:56.060 this soul yours that's the control panel people don't really understand that yet that's the control panel
01:29:06.260 yeah and if you fix your own circuitry shit won't happen in the world it's shit you don't like
01:29:15.560 about yourself that you're afraid to look at won't occur in the world wow that's deep yeah i think that
01:29:25.280 that's it and i think that that'll probably if we all pray and pray outside of our groups i think
01:29:32.640 we can crush the evil that's trying to rise because the light has to put the dark out
01:29:41.020 well what it really says is it says that
01:29:45.700 darkness needs to see the light darkness needs to perceive that there is light
01:29:55.200 because that's the mind baller darkness doesn't know that light exists but as soon as it is made aware
01:30:03.580 of that fact everything will change that's what i loved about kabbalah is it was all about light and
01:30:11.400 dark there was no good and evil god and devil and it was light and dark yeah but it's also about
01:30:21.520 that being a duality that we've had in in our human brains and consciousness for thousands and
01:30:30.440 thousands of years whereas now we step into the third thing not a duality but the third thing
01:30:38.200 the third thing destroys duality and duality is you know the division of the mind and the consciousness
01:30:48.520 so the third thing is new and it it's uh non-binary it's non-binary i hate that word but that's a good
01:30:59.820 thing the way they use it they don't even get it but it is the word and of course they're trying to
01:31:05.760 real hard to beat it down and co-opt it and make it sexual but it isn't sexual it's
01:31:11.940 being out of the matrix of the duality because that's that is the darkness because everyone has dark
01:31:22.760 and light yeah but when dark beholds light that changes everything because it's like huh there's light
01:31:33.200 here's the darkness it's just empty um bleak nothing and then it sees something goes hey there's something
01:31:46.840 and that changes everything wow that's really cool it is cool this is a cool time it's a real
01:32:00.380 if you have raised awareness it's fucking punk rock to the max from a god level he's like god's like
01:32:10.360 nah nope your shit ain't working going for a new thing and he's showing us and giving us
01:32:18.180 all the apparati that we need to get there but you know we're we're stuck in the gravity of negativity
01:32:27.800 and we can't see it we'd rather cling to death yeah why let me go because we we really really want
01:32:39.000 to pretend that we're finite beings we want to pretend because that's the duality you live and you
01:32:45.120 die well what if you don't you've lived other lives i like when we go out people always go is this
01:32:51.140 your daughter that pisses me off stop no but i feel they always say that or is that your sister i that's
01:33:02.020 that's better shannon goes those people thought i was jewish and i go trust me that's not a good say
01:33:11.280 what i said that's not a compliment
01:33:14.280 okay okay you want to wrap it up yeah i love you so much i love you so i'm so happy to see you i'm
01:33:26.620 so i'm always happy to see you and we have to go eat pizza yay thank you for being my guest i want
01:33:32.580 you to come back and you know demonstrate your makeup techniques because you are a great makeup and
01:33:38.280 you really are i mean you're a pro and you're and i think that you know women can learn a lot from
01:33:44.240 what you can teach we did one already yep and i've been doing a lot of them on older gals who either
01:33:51.220 need to take it back down soften it up or add a little more but don't do too much don't do too little
01:33:59.200 just a little bit you know yeah we'll figure it out yeah okay thank you very much thank you very much
01:34:05.940 i love you so much i love you too okay okay bye
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