In this episode, comedian and writer Roseanne Barr joins me to discuss her new book, "The Parasitic Mind" and how we can all be parasitized by ideological pathogens like MK-Ultra, mind control, and mind viruses.
00:03:20.500And that's when I faced the second great war in my life, which was the war on reason, the war on science, the war on logic, on common sense.
00:03:29.960And so what I did in The Parasitic Mind is I tried to come up with a way to explain how could it be that in the 21st century we could be debating what is a woman, what is a man?
00:03:40.720There must be some kind of zombification process that can cause otherwise perfectly reasonable people to completely lose it.
00:03:49.380And so maybe I could explain why I use the parasitic metaphor.
00:04:23.340But when it is parasitized by a hairworm, the hairworm needs the wood cricket to jump into water in order for it to complete its reproductive cycle.
00:04:32.740And so it will merrily commit suicide in the service of the reproductive interests of the hairworm.
00:04:42.280I will now use that framework to argue that human beings can be parasitized by ideological pathogens.
00:04:51.720And so what the book was, I go through all of these parasitic ideas, and then hopefully I offer an effective mind vaccine.
00:05:00.680And, well, MKUltra Mind Control, which we've been under in the United States since I was a girl.
00:05:08.400I mean, I just look around and I get terrified at how well it's worked.
00:05:14.540And we'll talk about that later, because I want to talk about, is there any hope for the United States and Canada where you now live, right?
00:05:26.160Or have we been totally Islamicized already?
00:05:32.740It seems to me that we have become totally Islamicized.
00:05:37.120I, unfortunately, I want to always be optimistic and give people hope, but I fear that it is getting late.
00:05:45.560Now, it wouldn't be late, Roseanne, if I saw that the West was open to recognizing the problem and then implementing the right autocorrective procedures.
00:05:58.560But all I see is people doubling down, hence the topic of my next book, which is suicidal empathy, right?
00:06:06.240That is the best phrase ever invented for the Western world in 600 years.
00:06:16.620So what I just described earlier with the parasitic mind, so we are both a feeling and thinking animal, right?
00:06:23.400We have a cognitive system that causes us to think.
00:06:26.360And we also have an emotional system, right?
00:06:28.540As an evolutionist, I study both why our brains evolved to think the way they do, but why our emotional system also evolved to feel the way that it does.
00:06:36.920So for me to completely zombify you, I need to take control both of your thinking ability, hence the parasitic mind, and your emotional system, hence suicidal empathy.
00:06:49.100Now, empathy is a perfectly noble virtue to have when it is meted out in the right amount at the right time to the right people, right?
00:07:00.560But when it becomes, when it's gamed such that I care more about 6'4 John, who became Linda, and now is a girl, and therefore I have to care about her feelings more than about the 100 biological women, that's suicidal empathy.
00:07:19.120When I care more about MS-13 gang members than I care...
00:07:52.200And so it makes perfect evolutionary sense that as a social species, we invest, to your point, we invest heavily in our children.
00:08:01.640Of course, women more so than men, but men too are great dads in the animal kingdom.
00:08:06.880So it makes perfect sense that we would have evolved this reflex of being empathetic to others.
00:08:12.240So, for example, theory of mind, which is the ability of me to put myself in your mind when I am engaging in a meaningful interaction with you, is a perfectly reasonable thing.
00:08:23.080By the way, autistic children don't have theory of mind.
00:08:26.300One of the ways that you're able to diagnose a young child is when they fail a theory of mind task.
00:08:32.640So empathy is a great thing, but as Aristotle taught us thousands of years ago, the devil is in the details.
00:08:40.880As long as it's in the right amount to the right people in the right context.
00:08:45.900What the West has done is it has abdicated that sweet spot, and it has completely led to a hyperactive misfiring of our empathy module.
00:08:56.060And so most of our domestic failures and foreign failures stem from this suicidal empathy.
00:09:02.720So get ready for the next book, Roseanne.
00:09:05.360I can't wait for the next book, but I really want to dabble here for a minute because as a woman, and you know my definition.
00:09:22.820A woman is somebody whose breasts hang down to her belly and who has a prolapsed uterus from giving birth to five ungrateful little bastards who've never had to work for anything in their whole lives.
00:09:43.680And one of them is with us right here, yes?
00:09:49.520I used to say that to him when he was a wayward teen.
00:09:52.240However, now he's a lovely father and a husband.
00:09:55.960But anyway, I think that this whole thing, the whole number of the mind control that they've done, I'll say, that I've seen in my lifetime, was the perversion of women's rights.
00:10:11.520And getting women, young girls, these young women, to stand out there cheering for violence and cheering for men in women's bathrooms, I mean, boy, they really messed up everything with that one.
00:10:28.860They got women to be complete lemmings.
00:10:31.840Well, and that's exactly the combination of the one-two punch of parasitic thinking and suicidal empathy, right?
00:10:39.560It's hashtag queers for Palestine, right?
00:10:42.780I mean, I always tell people, I mean, you know, I'm from the region, right?
00:12:27.480But you must be an active subscriber to receive your free dessert.
00:12:32.280In Montreal, where we emigrated from Lebanon, from 1975 to 1998, and the reason why I mentioned 1998 is because I remember the exact year when I first saw a woman wearing an Islamic veil, and that was in 1998.
00:12:52.080So the first 23 years of my life in Montreal, Canada, I never saw any Islamic sartorial, you know, stuff.
00:13:04.180From 1998 to today, Roseanne, I could walk on any street in Montreal, and depending on the neighborhood, between 20 to 50% of the women I come across are veiled.
00:13:50.500All of this stuff is driving me crazy.
00:13:52.380Have you ever seen the footage of, in any Islamic country, let's say, before the Islamic hardliners came, right?
00:14:01.100You know, you had these most, I mean, Lebanon, where I grew up, I almost never saw a veiled woman.
00:14:05.740So my first 11 years of my life, I mean, I might have seen 10 veiled women in my entire life in Lebanon, whereas now almost everybody is veiled.
00:14:16.360It's just the stripping away of all women's rights.
00:14:20.080And they really want to strip away women completely, race women, even as a biological sex.
00:14:29.800And they, at the UN level, they have passed these unbelievable laws that have filtered down even into American insurance companies that use the, because I look at that.
00:14:44.280But like a lot of insurance companies that pay for these transgender operations on children and adults who have gender dys, body dysphoria, whatever it's called.
00:16:30.240And the date in question was a graduate student in women's studies and postmodernism and so on.
00:16:37.140And so he calls me before we go out to dinner to kind of give me a heads up because he knows that, you know, we might get into some difficult conversations.
00:16:47.240About halfway through the dinner, I turned to this lady and I say to her, I hear you're studying postmodernism.
00:17:20.880She said, well, because there is some Japanese tribe of some Japanese island where within their folkloric mythological realm, it is the men who bear children.
00:17:31.820So by you restricting it to the biological realm, that's how you keep us barefoot and pregnant.
00:18:22.280So they're running around looking for information.
00:18:24.960Of course, you find fake information on the Internet and everywhere as much as you do accurate, and you can't tell.
00:18:33.980And then three months later, something you thought everybody said was bullshit, it shows up in a credible source.
00:18:40.640So you can't tell, but it seems like to befuddle everybody, to trick everybody, to take people's time so that they take their eye off the real ball,
00:18:51.620which is they're stealing all our money.
00:18:55.540You're speaking to the guy who has a taxation system where I pay, once you add up all the taxes, about 70% of my earnings.
00:19:05.360So don't get me going on stealing my money, because that's probably the only thing in life that has brought me more misery than going through the Lebanese Civil War.
00:19:16.340Yeah, and it really tears at your conscience, too, because I knew about USAID, and I said,
00:19:27.000I tried to go to Marin County and tell all the Jews up there, you know the money you're giving to the Democrats is going to pay for slay, to kill Jews.
00:19:41.200I mean, once you decode all the layers of bullshit, it's the same old imperialist crap it's always been, isn't it?
00:19:51.960I mean, yes, although I'd like to be a bit more charitable in that I think that some of the parasitic ideas are not necessarily willful mind control.
00:20:04.220And let me explain what I mean by that.
00:20:06.220So I argue in the parasitic mind that many of these parasitic ideas start off with a noble goal.
00:20:12.740But then in the service of that noble goal, if we have to murder and rape truth, then so be it.
00:20:20.380So, for example, equity feminism is a great idea.
00:20:23.980It basically says men and women should be treated equally under the law.
00:20:27.860Now, if that's the definition of feminism, all of us would say, yeah, sign me up.
00:20:32.760But then radical feminists come along and say, in the desire to squash the patriarchy, we need to now promulgate the idea that men and women are indistinguishable from one another.
00:20:46.180All differences between men and women must be due to social construction because that will allow us to defeat the patriarchy more easily.
00:20:54.340And so what started off as a nice idea and good objective gets killed and hence the parasitic idea spreads because so what if I murder truth?
00:21:15.960We now have to impose on the rest of us the idea that men, too, can menstruate and that men, too, can bear children because that's the only way that those...
00:21:27.820Well, because the women are saying they're men.
00:21:33.160But, you know, the whole are women men and are men women thing is the same kind of fantasy as the whole concept of Palestine, as the whole concept of Monsanto, you know, the foods they make Americans eat, fake food, bullshit food, and none of the rest of the world has to eat it.
00:21:58.660But just the level of mind control that they, you know, manipulate people like puppets on a string, you know, to take up all their time so that their conscious minds, their creativity, anything they could be doing to better themselves is sidetracked into these ridiculous fake issues that have nothing to do with the price of butter at all.
00:22:24.560And imagine this, Roseanne, so I've been a professor now for 31 years.
00:22:30.040Imagine when parents are sending their kids to universities that will charge $60,000, $70,000, $80,000, and you're studying, you know, lesbian dance therapy and postmodernism and feminist glaciology.
00:22:49.380I mean, if at least, I don't mind you study anything, you could study literature, I'm not saying you should only study, you know, cancer research and neuroscience, you could study whatever you want, but as long as it intellectually enriches you so that when you come out of, you know, $400,000 of debt, you are a better person for it.
00:23:11.340But where do you go when you study postmodernism?
00:23:15.720So not only are you parasitizing the young kids' minds, you're also stealing the parents' hard-earned money because you are failing in your fiduciary responsibility to actually intellectually enrich those kids.
00:23:29.040And then Biden gives them all a, you know, get-out-of-jail-free card and makes me, the American taxpayer, pay for them to basically go to college to go out and take strikes and say, kill all the Jews.
00:24:13.840So this is why, by the way, you may or may not know this, I took a leave from my home university.
00:24:20.280I'm currently a visiting professor at a Michigan university, precisely because someone of my profile, who's as publicly open about all the positions I take, it's become nearly impossible for me to go to campus.
00:24:37.540Now, imagine that this, this is not happening in Yemen and in Lahore, Pakistan.
00:25:13.440Claire, I want to go into this next subject, because I'm like, the only hope we have in this world, for all of us who are critical thinkers, and love actual history, not fake rewritten history, by, uh, you know, whatever they are that went to them colleges, that just accept bullshit as fact.
00:25:35.480Which, um, which that is something beyond, uh, suicidal empathy.
00:25:42.140I just say it's an addiction to bullshit.
00:25:44.920They'd rather have their bullshit like heroin every day, and they put it above the lives of their own children.
00:25:50.940Their addiction to bullshit is such that it's just demonic.
00:25:55.700But the question is, why are they susceptible to the bullshit?
00:25:59.580And I think it's because, going back to suicidal empathy, because they have been taught that the Jew, so if we're going to talk about that region, the Jew is always the oppressed, oppressor.
00:26:16.380So, I'll tell you a great story, by the way, and I, I actually, I mentioned it, well, I discussed it in my forthcoming book, and I discussed it a few days ago, when Douglas Murray came on my show.
00:26:29.040So, forgive me if, if the story is going to be repetitive for you, but some of your listeners might not know it.
00:26:34.560So, I put out on social media, Roseanne, I said, here's a photo of 20 rapists in a town in England, it's called Huddersfield, but there are many of these towns.
00:26:48.240These are the British grooming gangs, which are almost exclusively Pakistani Muslim men.
00:26:56.380And so, I said, so I put this photo, and, and their names were listed.
00:27:01.500So, it's, you know, Muhammad this, Ahmad this, Hussain that, and so, sarcastically, and I know that you're a very sarcastic person, so you'll appreciate this.
00:27:10.940I said, you know, I'm not smart enough to know what is the common theme across Muhammad, Muhammad, Muhammad, Muhammad, Muhammad, Muhammad, Muhammad.
00:27:22.820Now, without missing a beat, I receive a torrent of responses, not sarcastic responses, not facetious responses, where people said, yes, you know who's to blame for those grooming gangs?
00:28:26.500The Muslim Brotherhood in Qatar and all their money that they launder through Switzerland to come up with their NGOs to brainwash Americans from owning all the media, from, you know, maybe making ABC fire me, because I said Muslim Brotherhood, to, you know, everything else in America, to all, everything, TikTok, YouTube.
00:28:51.380When I go anywhere and write the words Muslim Brotherhood, I'm banned immediately.
00:28:58.520We're under some heavy-duty mind control.
00:29:03.260And, you know, it's all Swiss banks, the neutrality.
00:29:45.960So, number one, we're going to conquer the West through the womb of our women, which is exactly right.
00:29:52.780Number two, we're going to conquer the West through hijra.
00:29:57.060Hijra is the Arabic word for immigration, migration.
00:30:00.560And, of course, we've got the suicidally empathetic reflex to let in millions of people who don't share our values.
00:30:06.720And, number three, which is arguably the one that they've been most successful at, we are going to use your miserable freedoms against you.
00:30:33.620And then all of my idiotic colleagues, and they're called professors, don't side with the Trump administration to get rid of this cancerous guy.
00:34:01.800But no, they should not be our spokespeople.
00:34:04.620I think Jews who were, you know, I just had a tall Iran on here.
00:34:12.700And we said Jews who originate from the Middle East and were driven from their homes should be the only spokespeople.
00:34:19.380Now, in America, when they're talking about Israel or any other subject that entails anything about Jews or Jewish history, because these guys have rewritten it all or forgotten.
00:34:31.140They don't even know what they're talking about as it applies to us living in the world and staying living right now.
00:34:37.400People from all Arab states, all Jews have been Nakba'd and their wealth of thousands of years assumed and they had to go to Israel.
00:34:52.740So you mean, you mean the course that you and I took together at Oberlin about Islamic history, where the Muslim countries were terribly loving and revered the Jews?
00:36:16.980So this comes from conversations that I've had with, because Arabic is my mother tongue, where they literally say, exactly, I'm glad you raised this.
00:36:49.860So this is what I call a lack of a cultural theory of mind.
00:36:54.280Remember earlier I talked about theory of mind, which is I need to put myself in your mind to be able to have a meaningful conversation.
00:37:01.340Well, the West doesn't have cultural theory of mind, meaning that they presume that the noble virtues that they express to the other will be fully appreciated and reciprocated.
00:37:14.080But that's not how it's viewed by the Middle East.
00:47:01.180I have triangulated many lines of evidence that hopefully gives you a tsunami of evidence.
00:47:08.340Now, here is where my mind vaccine fails.
00:47:11.800The only way I could give you that mind vaccine is if you're willing to at least come to the station to hear out my presenting you the data.
00:47:22.720If you go la, la, la, la, la, la from the start, in other words, to use the vaccine analogy,
00:47:28.520I could only give you the vaccine against measles if you show up to the clinic.
00:47:32.920If you don't show up to the clinic, I can never give you the vaccine.
00:47:36.100So the challenge is to get people to have the humility to at least allow me to give you the vaccine,
00:54:48.840Those things have stood the test of time because they actually speak to an evolutionary reality, which, by the way, other primates, for example, reciprocal grooming.
00:54:59.480You've probably seen it on a National Geographic episode, right?
00:55:10.300You will pick up the parasites with the understanding that then there'll be reciprocity.
00:55:17.640If I do it to you, if I literally scratch your back and you don't reciprocate, then you're a social cheat and you're going to be ostracized from the ban.
00:55:30.260So when you have a unidirectional, asymmetric compassion from one group to the other without ever an expectation of reciprocity, you don't need fancy Professor Saad to tell you you're going to run into trouble.
00:55:45.240And so that leads me to say, you know, about having double standards, because they've really groomed it into us to have double standards when it comes to the Jewish state.
00:56:00.800It is unbelievable, their double standards of war.
00:56:08.520And I mean, on October 8th, they were in the streets of New York condemning Israel.
00:56:45.880Because they could literally, in 15 seconds, I appeared on Joe Rogan recently, where I said, if it were the case that Israel wanted to genocide the Palestinians, do you know how many seconds it would take to achieve that?
00:57:17.260They're very good at getting genocide, not as good as committing genocide.
00:57:22.120But yet, I can't go to my campus downtown Montreal because there are signs everywhere saying, you know, you're a baby killer, you're a Zionist, and so on.
00:58:12.520Dear so-and-so, thank you very much for your lovely words.
00:58:16.380Don't you think that the last line of your email is exactly why we are currently in the problem we're facing?
00:58:23.800So that's the problem, Rosanne, is that most people are actually on our side, but they're afraid of their shadow, and none more so than academics.
00:58:32.800I mean, you would think in academia we're protected by tenure, right?
00:58:36.720I mean, the whole point of tenure is so that you can be emboldened and courageous to speak your mind without having the threat of being fired, yet I've never met a more cowardly, castrated group than professors.
00:58:53.540It's sickening how many, well, speaking of castrated, it, you know, oh, God, we won't even go into it, but, you know, it really, they're such fake intellectuals.
00:59:10.400That's what gets me, is they're just phony, they're not intellectuals.
00:59:16.280As a matter of fact, one of the things that has frustrated me the most in my academic career, Rosanne, so I thought, so my sort of romance of academia was that my children would grow up at Shabbat dinner, and I've invited all my colleagues, and one day we're talking about art history, the next day we're talking about the history of the papacy.
00:59:41.740And the reality is that most of my academic colleagues, while they are great in the hyper-specialized fields that they are specialists in, they completely stay in your lane people, whereas a real intellect is able to have a meaningful conversation with Rosanne Barr one day, with Joe Rogan the next day, with an art historian.
01:00:04.420And I mean, if I may, forgive me, not to toot my own horn, but the reason why I think I was able to achieve the platform that I have achieved, it's because I'm not elitist, I'm not arrogant, I get a lot more of a kick out of a trucker writing to me, telling me, hey, you know what, you keep me sane, I listen to your show when I'm doing the run from this place to this place.
01:00:27.200That makes me happier than receiving an email from a colleague at Stanford telling me how great I am.
01:02:05.080So Fermat's Last Theorem was a theorem that Fermat, who was a French mathematician about 300 plus years ago, had proposed, which for hundreds of years, all of the greatest mathematical minds have not been able to solve.
01:02:23.460And then in the mid-90s, it was finally solved by Sir Andrew Wiles, a professor of mathematics at Princeton.
01:02:33.680And so the book that I'm currently reading recounts the story of all of the people who tried and failed until this guy came along.
01:02:51.000How did you, like, what was the catalyst that got you interested in mathematics?
01:02:57.720I just always was obsessed with numbers as a kid.
01:03:02.100When people would be talking, I'd be counting how many words they were saying on my fingers, how many words they were saying on my fingers, like, just always.
01:03:19.920And, you know, studying Judaism deeply, that kind of compounded it, you know.
01:03:28.080But then when you get into, like, really studying about mathematics, you can see it's so mystical.
01:03:35.420I mean, the numbers themselves are just so mystical.
01:03:38.380They have such a great story to tell if we could find the language, you know.
01:03:46.880You know, it's funny that you say this, because I remember when I was a math student, I would go out with this other friend of mine who was studying communication.
01:05:31.340Yeah, and like getting into, well, I'll just say this one, but like, you know, there's this guy that writes these great books.
01:05:43.000I can't remember his name or any name of the books, but I'll mention it later.
01:05:46.860But he broke down the Torah code into mathematical language, which I have somewhere, maybe not in this house, my other house in Hawaii.
01:05:57.400But it broke down the prayers into sound waves, too, on computer with, you know, mathematical formulations that turned them into sound waves and then to colors.