The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad - April 06, 2025


Sam Harris is Very Mad at Joe Rogan (The Saad Truth with Dr. Saad_816)


Episode Stats


Length

4 minutes

Words per minute

142.44604

Word count

594

Sentence count

33

Harmful content

Hate speech

1

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Summary

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Sam Harris is disappointed that Joe Rogan allows people like Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump on his show who spread disinformation and misinformation about Israel. What does that say about the limits of free speech and open debate in a free society?

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 Hi everybody, this is Gatsad. I just saw a clip on X where Sam Harris is sharing his profound disappointment that Joe Rogan would allow all sorts of people on his platform that quote, you know, spread disinformation and misinformation.
00:00:23.920 He mentions a guy by the name of Dave Smith. I'm not exactly sure who he is. I know he's some kind of anti-Israel guy.
00:00:31.740 And then he mentions the fact that he speaks to guys like Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump and so on.
00:00:38.300 And these guys are way too dangerous to be given this platform.
00:00:41.940 Again, this demonstrates the consequentialist bent that Sam has when it comes to freedom of speech, freedom of inquiry, open debate in a free society.
00:00:58.040 I may not like what Dave Smith says about Israel and I might think that it's completely wrong.
00:01:05.380 The few snippets I've seen, I, you know, don't think very highly of his analyses, but I certainly have never had the reflex to go in public and say, hey, Joe, why are you letting these guys on your show?
00:01:21.240 Because I completely internalize the deontological principle that in a free society, you speak to people.
00:01:31.080 Now, you may choose not to want to speak to them because you don't want to give them, you know, your time.
00:01:37.140 I don't necessarily debate creationists, not because I'm trying to shut their voice,
00:01:44.420 but because I don't think it'll be a worthwhile exchange to discuss evolution with the creationists.
00:01:53.680 There's nothing that I can share with them that would alter their position and therefore an engagement would be futile.
00:01:59.860 But I never have the reflex to say, hey, Elon, why are you allowing these people on X?
00:02:05.980 These people are sending me all kinds of mean anti-Jewish insults.
00:02:10.020 Please cancel their accounts and so on.
00:02:14.420 Precisely because I understand that in a free society, short of direct incitement to violence and so on, all bets are off.
00:02:24.140 You either believe in free speech absolutism or you don't.
00:02:26.960 So the reflex that Sam has, which is, you know, there are too many important issues to allow all the rubes, the plebs, the great unwashed to, you know, be exposed to all this. 1.00
00:02:40.020 It is for us, the anointed ones and I as your leader, the Malibu meditator, to decide who's allowed to speak, who's not allowed to speak, who should be given a platform, who shouldn't be given a platform.
00:02:52.640 I mean, imagine having the goal to go to Joe Rogan, who, you know, I obviously know very well.
00:02:59.000 He's a good friend.
00:02:59.960 I've been on a show 11 times and Sam has been on his show.
00:03:03.360 Imagine now turning on him and saying, boy, how come Joe allows people, allows some people to go on his show with whom I disagree?
00:03:13.660 That's not how it works.
00:03:17.400 So, you know, the descent of Sam into immoral consequentialism and violation of every deontological principle continues unabated.
00:03:28.820 Again, it's a very powerful lesson, which is don't commit that fallacy.
00:03:36.860 There is an endless number of things that Sam has said, for example, as relating to COVID that are profoundly wrong.
00:03:46.320 Imagine if we had said, hey, don't allow Sam to go on any shows anymore.
00:03:49.800 He is a purfayer of disinformation and misinformation.
00:03:53.200 No, let him go on shows.
00:03:55.000 Let him espouse his position.
00:03:56.860 And then if there are better ideas, then if nothing else, the punishment will be that his words would come back to haunt him.
00:04:04.540 So, more disappointment from the great Malibu meditator.
00:04:09.820 Cheers, everybody.