The Shadoe Davis Show - Aug. 12th⧸2025- W⧸ Forces Vet Jeff Evely..Ticketed over 28K for Going into ＂The Woods＂ in NS

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00:03:30.000 hello my friends and welcome to the show it's shadow at night for tuesday august the 12th

00:03:54.060 2025. Did you know they had a wildfire near Halifax today? The timing is absolutely insane.

00:04:06.100 Just as they closed the woods the other day for people to go hiking, enjoy themselves, enjoy

00:04:13.360 the company of their family in the beautiful forested areas of Nova Scotia.

00:04:18.760 they had a wildfire near halifax i'm going to cover that i'm going to talk about that with

00:04:26.700 our guest tonight jeff evely who took another one for the team my friends this guy has

00:04:31.440 thrown his liberty up there a lot of times for us first with being a member of the canadian

00:04:38.980 armed forces and then with freedom convoy 2022 a court case that lasted a couple of years and

00:04:45.660 And now this one going into the woods and getting a ticket for what we thought was going to be a measly $25,000.

00:04:56.100 It turns out that it's more than that because of a victim fee.

00:04:59.240 It's $28,750.75, something like that.

00:05:05.380 Jeff Ebley is our guest tonight, and he joins in just a second.

00:05:09.000 Hello, Christine, watching from Enola.

00:05:10.860 Kathy is watching tonight from New Brunswick.

00:05:13.080 Oh, yeah. Your premier said something really stupid today, too. 1.00

00:05:17.600 Deborah, hello. How are you? Rita is watching from Woodbridge, Ontario. 0.99

00:05:21.320 Hello, Diane in Regina. Debbie is watching tonight in Bristol, Quebec.

00:05:25.220 Hello, Gloria. Sandra watching tonight from Bridgewater, the Bridgewater area of Nova Scotia.

00:05:31.220 Hello, Sharon watching in Quebec as well. Who else is here tonight?

00:05:34.500 Wallace is watching in Saskatchewan. Michelle in Saskatchewan as well.

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00:06:04.940 And tomorrow, don't forget, we have Grant Abraham of the United Party of Canada.

00:06:08.480 He's also running in that by-election next Monday against Pierre Polyevin.

00:06:11.880 and 208 other candidates or something like that,

00:06:15.560 the by-election in Battle River Crowfoot, Alberta.

00:06:18.800 Normally, I play a 30-second hang-in-there piece

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00:06:24.620 but tonight, instead, I thought I would play Jeff's video again.

00:06:28.360 This is The Woods.

00:06:32.080 Hey, everybody, Jeff Evely here out in Nova Scotia

00:06:36.560 on Mountain Road in Cox's Eve.

00:06:40.680 And as you can see behind me, this is the woods.

00:06:47.840 But over here, this is not the woods.

00:06:52.840 This is the Department of Natural Resources, where the conservation officers work,

00:06:58.340 who issued $25,000 fines for going in the woods.

00:07:04.140 You have to go in the woods.

00:07:05.560 Yes.

00:07:06.500 Sure.

00:07:06.900 You want to show me where the woods is out back here?

00:07:10.680 We'll work right wherever you want.

00:07:12.380 We still have to suggest that they don't.

00:07:16.060 I understand.

00:07:17.340 He just ordered me.

00:07:18.640 He said he's going to double my fine.

00:07:20.820 No.

00:07:21.400 I'm going to defy that order.

00:07:22.900 So, one more time.

00:07:24.900 This is the DNR office on Mountain Road in Coxeneath, Nova Scotia.

00:07:31.340 And this is not the woods.

00:07:34.500 But back here, this is the woods.

00:07:36.780 So, I have a couple of conservation officers with me right now who are not on camera, but have advised me that if I go into the woods, if I defy their orders to go into the woods, then I will be fined, and they also said that they would double my fine to $50,000.

00:07:53.620 So, I'm going to walk down here and go into these woods.

00:07:57.660 i don't know that there's a good spot to do this but i'm just going to make this

00:08:07.760 as painless as i can for those guys and go in here

00:08:11.520 and they have me on camera as well walking in the woods

00:08:26.320 this is not the woods

00:08:28.580 hi

00:08:32.200 I was just out back with

00:08:34.520 three gentlemen there, they said they would meet me

00:08:36.460 back in here

00:08:37.000 without a forest travel permit

00:08:40.280 when proclamation is effect

00:08:41.620 you have a court plea date

00:08:44.700 yeah your due date

00:08:48.600 is the 12th of September

00:08:49.660 so it's a lot quicker, just the ticket

00:08:51.240 okay, yeah, that makes sense

00:08:53.400 so this is

00:08:54.120 I want to go with that to make it quicker.

00:08:55.300 Okay, so this is an SOT, and that is for summons to accused.

00:09:00.460 What is this?

00:09:01.720 Summary offense ticket for today's dig.

00:09:05.620 Your information, Forrest Act 25 Sub 1, fine is $28,870,250.

00:09:15.700 Okay, I thought it was $25,000.

00:09:18.000 It's $28,870.

00:09:19.480 Forced loss, victim fees.

00:09:20.840 Taxes.

00:09:21.560 Oh, victim fees.

00:09:22.540 Yeah.

00:09:22.880 Okay, sounds good.

00:09:23.780 here we go oh i have i take it here for let me see if you can see that

00:09:31.460 twenty eight thousand eight hundred and seventy dollars and fifty cents uh for victimizing

00:09:38.100 somebody. Okay. So more to follow.

00:10:08.100 you know my friend i think when you went into those woods you may have stirred up a hornet's

00:10:20.340 nest yeah you don't say um unbelievable response overwhelming in fact uh that video that you were

00:10:30.060 just showing there is at 3.9 million views my twitter that's insane that's crazy that's that's

00:10:37.620 nuts you you got fined 28 000 what was it 757 dollars and 25 cents i can't remember the last

00:10:45.680 oh yeah it's 28 872 dollars and 50 cents and that's a victim surcharge on top of 25 000

00:10:54.000 there are taxes court fees and a victim surcharge yes what kind of taxes pst you know you don't get

00:11:01.000 the breakdown in the summary offense tickets and they said it would be delayed by months if they

00:11:05.640 did like the long form or something and i was like okay i'll get the checks in the mail i guess

00:11:10.060 you wanted to get it over with you just want to get to court that's the thing right you know i

00:11:15.440 was just trying to make it as easy for those guys as possible um put the the civil back in civil

00:11:22.100 disobedience you know that kind of thing kind of seems like our civility has been lost in the last

00:11:26.760 several years so what what makes you do the things you do and i'm not suggesting that you're crazy

00:11:32.780 i'm not i'm what i'm suggesting here is that you you seem to be able to stir the pot like nobody

00:11:41.880 else aside from a few other people and you know that's a good thing people need this and you know

00:11:50.460 you've been on the left-wing corporate media these last few days and they're trying to vilify you and

00:11:57.720 i know that you know press progress and these other marxist publications are trying to vilify

00:12:03.160 you and you sit there and you take it you're polite you're respectful you're cordial you

00:12:08.520 answer the questions uh and and i think more importantly you make people actually think

00:12:14.340 about their programming it's just a gift maybe i don't know what it is do you think of these

00:12:20.740 answers ahead of time do you anticipate the questions is it natural some sometimes yeah

00:12:27.300 it's i guess a little from column a a little from column b um you know i uh i kind of have

00:12:33.440 prepped answers to certain questions ahead of time but also you know there's a bit of thinking

00:12:42.200 on my feet going on there too um in this case i mean i actually called dnr ahead of time and

00:12:50.100 made an appointment to come down for my 28 000 fine did they know what you were going to do or

00:12:55.900 did you just say i'm coming down to say hi oh they knew exactly what i was going to do i called and

00:13:01.000 i talked to the supervisor uh he said well uh my guys aren't coming on shift until uh 4 p.m and i

00:13:08.440 was like okay i'll come at 4 p.m and i went down there and um you know explained to them uh the

00:13:15.140 situation basically look uh i i want to challenge this in court and the only way that i can do it

00:13:20.720 to take the fine so sorry to bother you guys it's not about you like nothing personal um you know i

00:13:26.520 even said uh i just want a piece of tim houston and uh um you know they they they did the routine

00:13:34.540 like they tried to deter me from going into the woods first um and i like i get that that's what

00:13:41.280 their superiors are expecting them to do um but once we got that you know formality out of the

00:13:46.700 way everything was uh pretty cordial i was uh i shook their hands before i left and thanked them

00:13:52.920 for their courteous approach and you know professionalism um so i was happy with the way

00:13:59.040 that uh dnr received me and and there's a lot of stuff that's not in the video too like there's a

00:14:03.780 much longer uh recording there that was edited out and i had a long chat with the guy um one of

00:14:10.080 the guys that was out back with me and it was just you know guys around the neighborhood and

00:14:14.180 you know somebody in the military so i probably know them um that kind of thing like you know

00:14:18.680 small town chit chat so um yeah the the whole thing uh i was really pleased with the way the

00:14:23.920 whole thing went there's i'm sure a few things you'd rather not reveal in those conversations

00:14:28.580 you had with those guys how did they feel giving you this 25 28 000 ticket anyway did they 0.97

00:14:35.260 i think no stupid they they just seem bewildered i think um to me so um but bewildered by you or 0.98

00:14:44.620 bewildered by the amount of the the ticket that they had to issue or both both i think yeah um 0.99

00:14:51.100 wait i mean you can see the whole thing is ridiculous are you kidding me i was in the

00:14:56.760 woods for like 90 seconds and my sneakers are not a fire hazard um that is absurd the whole thing is

00:15:02.920 absurd so uh initially you know i think uh um when i went in there like it was just kind of

00:15:10.180 standard protocol but as we you know move through this little exercise uh i think uh they kind of

00:15:17.580 you know uh understood and respected what i was doing by the time i left when you first heard

00:15:23.200 about this woods ban and then you went and did your this is the woods this is not the woods and

00:15:28.260 it was funny because i mean they had the yellow tape up in certain sections and not in other

00:15:32.800 sections and people you know even on my uh social media were saying well those are areas that are

00:15:38.620 highly dangerous and that's why they're taped off and i said no there's no rhyme or reason to it

00:15:43.380 were you able to establish any kind of pattern with that tape or was it just thrown up there

00:15:48.500 wherever uh i i you know what there is no rhyme to reason i i guess what they're trying to do is

00:15:58.720 there's there's an open area in the middle of the park where there's a you know kind of an open

00:16:02.680 field and they're trying to leave all that uh accessible and then but you got to walk through

00:16:08.640 the woods to get there don't you well it's nova scotia okay nova scotia is the woods that's kind

00:16:16.440 of the point of the video like what are you telling me to get out of the woods we live in

00:16:20.520 the woods because it's nova scotia tim houston have you been to nova scotia it's the woods 0.97

00:16:25.900 you know the premier of new brunswick said something really stupid they they haven't gone 0.82

00:16:30.860 as far as houston has gone at least not that i've heard but they're warning people or asking people 0.98

00:16:35.860 or maybe even begging people to stay out of the woods and it's not because they think you're going

00:16:40.700 to start a fire i'm sure she's seen your video jeff and and she goes oh my god he makes a great

00:16:48.060 point and there's no way we can argue it so she comes up with an equally ridiculous reason

00:16:52.320 and here she is he going for a walk in the woods is going to cause a fire i can understand why

00:16:57.740 people wait a minute that's that's ridiculous but the reality is it's not that you might cause a

00:17:05.360 fire it's that if you're out there walking in the woods and you break your leg we're not going to

00:17:09.640 come and get you because we have emergency responders that are out focused on a fire that

00:17:15.020 is threatening the lives of New Brunswickers. And if you take your boat out fishing in a pond in

00:17:19.620 Crown Land and you capsize, we're not going to be able to come and help you out because our first

00:17:24.160 responders are focused on an immediate and serious threat to our province. And so it's the possibility

00:17:30.860 of diverting emergency resources away

00:17:33.760 from where they are really needed.

00:17:38.240 So in that one in, I don't know,

00:17:42.220 500,000 chance that you will fall over a rock

00:17:46.280 and break your leg so bad

00:17:48.140 that you can't get up and get out,

00:17:51.420 they're not going to come and get you

00:17:52.620 because they're busy putting out a fire someplace else.

00:17:56.540 oh i mean keep talking please i want these people to keep talking um everybody needs to

00:18:07.520 pay attention to what they're saying oh my god um so uh well i did a post about this actually

00:18:16.080 now that you bring it up because um basically what she's saying there is that you know nova 0.99

00:18:22.800 scotians are are fire hazards but new brunswickers are klutzes both need babysitting and uh 1.00

00:18:33.520 the paternalism what is it the paternalism of the guilty mind central to the essence 1.00

00:18:41.640 of totalitarianism is on full display in the atlantic provinces 1.00

00:18:44.960 so nova nova scotians are fire hazards but but new brunswickers are just klutzes 1.00

00:18:57.500 oh speaking speaking of nova scotians this was funny too let's throw this 1.00

00:19:01.940 the guy sneezes and he starts a fire we gotta have fun we gotta have fun people like well 0.84

00:19:18.840 that's what i i labeled your video as i said you know veteran jeff evely turns this ridiculous

00:19:25.220 woods band into a saturday night live skit that's what you did you know uh i i didn't expect that to

00:19:34.260 go as viral as it did i think well it's not technically viral i think it was like 860 000

00:19:38.860 views or something but um i did not expect that i was just blowing off steam because that was the

00:19:45.400 day that's the first day that i showed up the park and they had all the damn tape up there so 0.54

00:19:50.220 So, Axel, get out of there. You're going to start a fire. Axel, come on, get out. 0.98

00:19:54.680 Yeah, I was I knew what I had to do. I knew I had to go get fined because I had that case in 2023 where I tried to take them to court with a judicial review on charter on charter grounds.

00:20:07.560 Judge dismissed it, said I didn't have standing because I couldn't stand on my rights alone.

00:20:11.600 There had to be money involved. And had I gotten fined, he said he would have awarded standing.

00:20:16.520 so why can't you stand on rights alone is that and you don't you still don't know that answer

00:20:24.420 no that was his ruling though dismissed it on standing marty my rights were violated

00:20:30.780 like yeah that's not harm in the eyes of the court it has to be money

00:20:35.960 marty moore is the lawyer contracted by jccf to defend you am i correct

00:20:41.480 um it's uh chris uh flurry oh chris flurry okay marty moore did did a thing on this today he's

00:20:50.840 uh let's see here he's with the charter advocates.ca based in calgary and he because there's

00:20:57.900 people actually arguing jeff that by going into the woods you are violating their right

00:21:06.720 to safety right this is the same charter arguments that they were trying to make in ottawa during

00:21:13.240 convoy where you were taking away their right to enjoy their property and taking away their freedom

00:21:19.440 of mobility that's what they were saying that's what they were actually saying in ottawa and so

00:21:24.540 now some people are actually saying that by going into the woods you're taking their charter right

00:21:31.160 to freedom away so the argument then has to be how is and and they make it as convoluted and

00:21:38.320 difficult for us as possible right so how is going into the woods how is is it that me going

00:21:44.240 into the woods is a fire hazard right we've heard of fire bans before but we've never actually heard

00:21:51.180 of people being banned from going into the woods Peter McIsaac was on last night you know Peter

00:21:57.320 oh yeah yeah i know peter yeah he's a he's a 30-year uh veteran firefighter conservation

00:22:02.940 officer in nova scotia and and he was saying you know i've never seen this it's it's never

00:22:08.700 happened where you ban people from going and he also mentioned that you can go into the woods

00:22:15.660 if the woods are on your property but if now you see this is where it gets convoluted and crazy

00:22:21.460 like in covet times but if you have a guest comes over and you're sitting in the backyard and you

00:22:26.620 you both decide to go into your own private woods then he can be fined 28 700 and whatever

00:22:34.820 which is absolutely ridiculous do you know the breakdown of what you can and can't do so far

00:22:40.800 in nova scotia or is it changing by the hour well i mean that is the point and at the end of that

00:22:47.420 video the funny video i threw in a christopher hitchens quote i'm gonna butcher it but it's um

00:22:53.800 You know, something like, you know, the true nature of dictatorship is not one of extreme order, but one in which no one can be certain they're following the rules quite right and never relax.

00:23:12.680 And that's where we are, is, you know, you can never really know for sure if you're meeting the expectations of these people.

00:23:23.800 and um you you were just talking about like their right to safety you know i could be wrong but

00:23:30.580 you know i'm no lawyer let's be sure but do they have a right to safety i thought you had a right

00:23:35.020 to security of the person um which is it could be argued that's the same thing right security

00:23:40.060 of the person so i i don't think that it is i mean there's no such thing as the absence of risk risk

00:23:46.400 is something that you manage not something you avoid so um you know the i think that's a deliberate

00:23:52.400 distinction and this is just my amateur opinion um but uh yeah i think there's a deliberate

00:23:57.700 distinction between security and safety there so uh you know there are natural phenomena in the

00:24:03.600 world that that uh make you kind of unsafe in a way i guess like i don't know what if you get

00:24:10.020 bit by a spider um what about the old days you're not you could go out until all hours of the night

00:24:16.960 playing hide and seek or whatever with your buddies there's 12e out there climbing seven

00:24:21.540 foot fences banging your head against steel poles on a swing set um getting ripped up by uh

00:24:29.320 jagged wood somewhere out in the field and you wouldn't come home until you absolutely had to

00:24:38.180 come home and these days it's like the government needs to be your parents somehow how have we

00:24:45.840 gotten to this stage and is it just that is it the government is scared that the left is going

00:24:51.660 to come after them if they're not monitoring everything we do or is it something higher

00:24:56.600 and more devious in your opinion um yeah i mean uh i i know what it is i actually talk about it

00:25:05.560 on my own podcast but i think i've spoken on it about it here like there's uh well you talked

00:25:09.740 about the fourth turning the last time you were on i was very fascinated by that yeah yeah that's

00:25:14.880 what it is. And we're not expected to come out of this one until, so just briefly, I mean, it's

00:25:21.280 a crisis era that we enter into every four generations, the last one being the Second

00:25:26.600 World War, then there was the American Civil War, American Revolution, on and on, all the way back

00:25:31.760 to the Garden of Eden. Every four generations, we enter into one of these civilizational

00:25:36.140 threatening crises. And it lasts for a generation. Ours actually started in 2008 with the global

00:25:43.020 financial collapse and we're not really expected to come out of it until about 2030 and what makes 0.99

00:25:48.220 the difference is the boomers retire from like most importantly probably the public service

00:25:54.220 and uh and uh also gen z ages into the electorate and as you can see they're the most conservative

00:26:01.400 generation uh in history and pierre polyev has been out there taking credit for it but it wasn't

00:26:06.820 pierre polyev that made the most conservative generation in history it was justin trudeau

00:26:11.480 So they have had to suffer the most under this tyranny.

00:26:15.240 And, you know, they're not going to be putting up with it once they age into the electorate.

00:26:19.800 You have faith in that generation?

00:26:23.520 Yeah, I do.

00:26:25.000 I mean, you know what?

00:26:26.000 And I'm also, full disclosure, a People's Party candidate.

00:26:30.060 I know.

00:26:30.780 Yeah, that's all right.

00:26:32.360 You know, I was in the last, I ran in the last election.

00:26:36.340 and um uh i we have uh well we're the youngest party demographically so we actually have a youth

00:26:43.360 wing called new gen and i've done quite a bit of work with those guys and i think they're all

00:26:47.280 spectacular like they're they're brilliant guys very tech savvy uh incredibly hard working and

00:26:53.300 um like sophisticated you know when when you're working with them they kind of uh see gaps and

00:26:59.220 anticipate shortfalls um they they give you a top cover they let you know don't forget this or

00:27:04.740 somebody just dumped something in the info box and they're very on the ball so yeah i have a lot

00:27:09.400 of confidence in those guys these are the guys behind the dominion society as well the dominion

00:27:13.460 society of canada you familiar with them obviously no yeah cursorily i uh i came across it on x um

00:27:21.180 but no uh daniel tyree he was with uh with pbc but he's not anymore i i don't know him personally

00:27:29.060 We haven't we haven't really interacted beyond email. Him and Greg Wycliffe. And, you know, I found it interesting. And there's a few other guys on the board. I found it interesting. I had him on last week. And so this is the generation, I think, that maybe just above the generation that you're speaking about.

00:27:44.580 I get kind of confused with kind of the generation Z and generation Y and the millennials.

00:27:50.480 I don't know who's who anymore, but it seems to me the young people are more concerned about their gender than they are about saving the world at this stage of the game. 0.57

00:27:59.880 And that's why I worry, like with your fourth turning philosophy.

00:28:02.820 And I realize that this has been going on for some time.

00:28:05.440 I I don't know that these kids are going to have the strength and courage to be able to fight the machine because they won't even realize they're in it.

00:28:13.080 uh no i think there's a reckoning coming on on that front like you know rise of the 1.00

00:28:19.780 detransitioners um so i think that uh yeah there's going to be a reckoning where they realize just 0.99

00:28:26.480 how badly they've been abused um so and you know and we're going to be going around saying never

00:28:31.380 again uh so um that's uh i mean that's what should happen um and uh i mean i uh i think

00:28:42.520 it will just just observing current trends i didn't mean for this to get into a political

00:28:46.940 discussion that's okay but no no and and you know i'm i'm okay with that and it's all right you see

00:28:51.840 people during the election campaign i was saying look you guys the rights got to unite we got to

00:28:56.780 get behind the conservative party of canada because if we don't and i'm going to explain

00:29:01.040 this for the people that have been saying shadow you're nothing but a conservative party shill

00:29:04.640 again um i got kicked out of a conservative a peer poly of rally during the election campaign i don't

00:29:10.980 know they said i was uh tamara knows better than i do what they called me i can't remember i was

00:29:18.120 in known ag known agitator is what it was somehow some way so they kicked me out of this thing

00:29:22.720 but i maintained that getting the liberals out of power at any cost was going to be better for us

00:29:29.080 because we'd have more runway to at least develop a plan before they just submerged us into this

00:29:34.380 agenda 2030 nonsense and the great reset but now i think maybe it's a better thing that mark carney

00:29:41.880 won this last election or at least is perceived to have won this last election because things are

00:29:47.760 moving so fast and i believe more and more people are waking up and that gives us an opportunity

00:29:53.220 to fight back before they can fully implement this thing what are your thoughts uh yeah it is

00:30:00.460 going to fall apart and i think that you're right that's um current like justin trudeau was just the

00:30:07.840 wizard of oz uh the man behind the curtain was mark carney uh he's even the one who uh you know

00:30:14.380 wrote that article uh in the globe and fail um calling us all seditionists while the convoy was

00:30:21.700 going on and it was uh marco mendicino who referenced mark carney he said people are upset

00:30:28.680 not not nobody's either like smart people like carney so let's bring in the tanks that was the

00:30:34.600 same text right i mean it was a joke or whatever i don't know i think they might have taken a tank

00:30:40.020 if they could get one um so uh um yeah current carney's always been the guy steering this thing

00:30:46.680 and of course he's getting rich off it the entire time like he's getting rich off the demise of

00:30:51.300 Canada. He owns oil in the United States and Nigeria. So he doesn't have a problem with oil

00:30:59.380 when he's making money off it. But if he were to allow our oil into the global market, then

00:31:03.840 the value of his assets would diminish just supply and demand. And he's in bed with China 0.79

00:31:09.760 and the whole green technology market is cornered by them while they basically control the UN, 1.00

00:31:14.900 dominating the audit boards 60 to 80 percent chinese and uh they uh you know they uh come 1.00

00:31:22.580 up with these ridiculous regulations on on climate so that uh you know they can get rich off our 1.00

00:31:28.240 demise so um while they build two new coal fire plant power plants every week so you know i i'm

00:31:35.580 happy that you're on here because we haven't had a really good talk like this in a while and uh

00:31:40.580 you know no no i seriously and so i want to get into i i have been toying with the idea the

00:31:46.020 audience knows this as well that there's more than one group in play here when we talk about

00:31:51.900 the cabal right it seems like okay we're talking about one overriding entity that controls everything

00:31:57.760 and my philosophy is a little bit different i think that we've got oligarchs definitely running

00:32:03.160 the show they're running politicians they're running governments they're running countries

00:32:06.160 obviously because all of them are bought and paid for and anybody that says different is completely

00:32:12.380 and totally brainwashed or naive one or the other but i think we've got different groups of them i

00:32:19.240 think we've got some pullaways i think we've got some definite alliances like you say between china

00:32:25.460 and the world economic forum but there's also the zionist uh portion of it there's there's so many

00:32:30.860 different ones but it's so hard to keep track over who wants what what's you know it's like

00:32:37.920 they're playing this giant game of real world risk here so what's your philosophy like who who's 0.70

00:32:42.820 running what and how many of them are there um well i'm pretty well known for taking the zionist

00:32:50.120 one off the table right off the bat okay you're not you're not going to find like you know an

00:32:55.240 intelligence report or any kind of like a think tank or something like a serious people um don't

00:33:01.520 take this seriously um so uh it is actually adversarial propaganda um finds its origins

00:33:09.280 uh well i mean i guess you trace like this the blood libel's always been there but like this

00:33:16.100 modern style is uh probably i would say haja min al husseini who was the guy who probably first

00:33:24.440 suggested the final solution to hitler in november of 1941 and they had it published uh on it was on

00:33:32.520 paper anyway uh by january 1942 so um he uh he was the grand mufti of jerusalem and apparently

00:33:40.640 hitler's plan was to deport the jews to the holy land and he was like no don't send them here burn

00:33:45.000 them um and uh so he he uh you know was behind the establishment of like like it's his legacy

00:33:53.940 in the Middle East. This is like Islamo-Nazi 0.78

00:33:56.080 legacy. It's his. That's where 1.00

00:33:57.900 Nazism and 1.00

00:33:59.280 Islamo-fascism or Islamism 0.68

00:34:02.140 intersect. It's with 0.99

00:34:03.880 Hajimin al-Husseini, Grand Mufti

00:34:06.020 of Jerusalem.

00:34:09.780 And, you know, the Protocols 0.98

00:34:12.020 of the Elders of Zion was cooked up by 0.58

00:34:13.640 the Russian secret police. I could go on 0.69

00:34:15.940 about this, but anyway. No, no, go ahead, man.

00:34:17.740 I find it fascinating, and the audience does too.

00:34:20.140 Yeah. I'm just saying, like,

00:34:21.740 I've ruled it out. This is good.

00:34:23.940 Like, and you ruled it out, but even though there's people who say that each politician, especially in the United States, has got a handler, right? 0.76

00:34:31.820 And that is generally an Israeli.

00:34:35.520 And I just, I do the correlations.

00:34:38.040 I look at the comparisons and I go, huh, that seems interesting to me.

00:34:43.320 That's very fascinating.

00:34:44.380 And why is it that the United States always seems to do the bidding of Netanyahu and whoever is running the show and is Israel?

00:34:52.340 Well, I mean, he did say that Netanyahu didn't know what the F he was doing.

00:34:57.680 Publicly, sure, he said that.

00:34:59.320 And he went and bombed Iran. 0.86

00:35:02.140 He threw him under the bus with a surprise announcement while they were both on stage there. 0.58

00:35:07.040 I can't remember what it was now, just before that.

00:35:09.860 Yeah, no, I don't think that's the case at all.

00:35:11.680 I think that, you know, the Israelis have been a source of really valuable intelligence and technology for the United States and the West.

00:35:20.860 I mean, uh, when I was in Afghanistan, actually the UAV detachment that I was with, we had an 0.91

00:35:25.660 Israeli bird. It was a, it was a massive, like it was a plane basically, but it was an unmanned

00:35:29.680 air vehicle. So, um, and it was an excellent piece of kit. Uh, and they also provided like

00:35:34.760 a prototypical iron dome for us. It wasn't very good. Like it didn't really stop the rockets or

00:35:40.020 anything like that. It was supposed, it was just supposed to be an alarm. It wasn't, um, you know,

00:35:44.100 it didn't have any projectiles or anything. Um, but, uh, anyway, it didn't work. Like you always

00:35:49.420 heard the explosion first um so uh um yeah they're they are like close friends and allies and because 0.58

00:35:56.840 of their their proximity in the world in in the middle east there they're surrounded by jihadist

00:36:02.340 organizations um that you know think that israel is a little satan and and uh um and uh the the

00:36:10.380 us is the the big satan or the great satan whatever they say um so what about the ukraine

00:36:17.120 involvement why you see and this is what something else that bothered me as well uh and and to his 0.80

00:36:21.880 credit max bernier said we got to get out of there and i agree with that uh polyev we will stand

00:36:28.620 behind ukraine till the bitter end same as the liberals and also the same thing with israel i'm

00:36:35.420 just trying to understand why they are so adamant about this ukraine thing what's your thought on

00:36:42.820 that uh the ukraine thing is uh pretty misguided i would say um i think i mean we have like canada

00:36:52.500 has no interest whatsoever they're not nato right we are well there there is an interest i would say

00:37:01.000 in preserving um international peace and security and and russia is a legit threat to the international 0.79

00:37:09.020 piece of security. It's just, they're never going to stop. Okay. And what they're doing in Chechnya 0.98

00:37:13.120 is atrocious. Like they're, uh, you know, um, ideologically driven too. That's, that's not

00:37:19.140 something people talk about a lot. Um, and, uh, the, um, uh, they, they never should have allowed

00:37:26.620 into Ukraine in the first place. Like they never moved at all, um, under Donald Trump. And before 0.62

00:37:31.560 that, like on that, well into the Obama administration, like there were the green men

00:37:36.180 with no name tape and stuff that we're in ukraine no we're not russia at all yeah you are um you

00:37:41.540 know we can see what you're doing like they're um so they they're um obviously like aggressively

00:37:46.300 expansionist and belligerent um so there there is a need to contain them i i would say uh but

00:37:53.040 they're absolutely going about it all wrong uh we shouldn't just be thrown then this is what they do

00:37:57.860 with everything they just throw money at every problem and then when it doesn't work out and

00:38:02.060 they're standing in front of the press they're like well we spent all this money on this and

00:38:05.140 this and this and that's what they do is they list the numbers and it's like you know that's

00:38:09.240 their answer to everything is they just throw our money at it um so uh no i i think that i think

00:38:16.240 our equipment too i mean like yes leaving our forces we don't have anything like why wouldn't

00:38:23.820 we send our guys with that equipment why wouldn't it be like an international peacekeeping force and 0.94

00:38:29.220 We have eyes on the ground and we're not just buying off goddamn oligarchs and enriching gangsters. 0.98

00:38:35.540 And we could know who the hell is who for crying out loud. 0.98

00:38:38.380 We send our guys in there. That's a declaration of war, no?

00:38:41.800 No, I think we could do like an international, you know, peacekeeping.

00:38:45.780 I think it'd be like I say peacekeeping, but that's not the right word because it'd be like a containment operation.

00:38:51.580 And I think it would probably be something like a coalition.

00:38:54.580 And then there would be accountability. Like you can't just throw money at us.

00:38:58.100 and donald trump is gonna you know handle it like trump always does and uh he's moving nukes around

00:39:03.460 and stuff like that that's what should have happened a long time ago like that's what i mean

00:39:07.460 there's no credible deterrence in in the region so whatever it is it should have been like a massive

00:39:13.380 build-up and we should be the ones handling everything not just entrusting 50 million or

00:39:18.660 what is a billion yeah 50 billion dollars to uh uh you know the uh those gangsters and

00:39:24.900 and oligarchs in ukraine it's like they have we know they have ridiculous amounts of corruption

00:39:29.920 and there are factions that are loyal to russia and the whole thing is a mess there's no way we

00:39:35.500 should be trusting anybody there with with our money no way at all well of course we're in no

00:39:40.520 position to do anything because we don't have the military so it's yeah well that's what i'm saying

00:39:44.300 is that i mean with all of that corruption going on between those two countries like some of them 0.57

00:39:49.220 are you know pro-russia some of them are you know working behind the backs of of zelinski all of

00:39:54.120 why are we even involved we don't have a canada does not have a stake in this at all we've brought 0.96

00:40:01.860 in refugees man we've done our bit we've got our own shit to take care of here yeah yeah oh absolutely 1.00

00:40:08.020 we're in no position to do anything but what i'm saying is we're doing the exact wrong thing 0.79

00:40:12.040 and no we shouldn't be doing anything like we're uh completely falling apart and we need some

00:40:16.400 canada time so um it's it's not it's i'm not i'm not really advocating for this approach right now

00:40:24.820 we cannot do it we cannot survive and do that so we must survive first um so uh but but i was just

00:40:33.100 saying i was just explaining like the interest actually is the um the maintenance of the 0.52

00:40:38.660 international peace and security like that's why the west is interested in in containing um russia

00:40:44.300 And, you know, in Canada, we're going to be we're going to have to say we've got to sit this one out, guys. 1.00

00:40:49.140 Sorry, like we can't even get helmets to our troops for crying out loud.

00:40:52.680 So we've got tampons in the men's rooms and the morale is a disaster. 0.92

00:40:57.940 Send lambs to the slaughter to fight Russia. 0.85

00:41:01.260 No, I'm not actually advocating that we do that. 0.86

00:41:03.640 I'm just saying that the way that you handle these things is militarily.

00:41:07.480 And you don't just shovel money into the pockets of crooked oligarchs.

00:41:12.660 Let me ask you a question.

00:41:13.840 we need more canada time we need some canada time right now i like that um let's let's just say the

00:41:19.220 ppc had won the election let's just play suppose and say that that was the case and we had a max

00:41:28.320 bernier government right now what would we be doing and what wouldn't we be doing what would

00:41:34.520 be happening across this country right now i mean freedom reign that's a that's a big question um

00:41:41.740 um but uh yeah i mean i would say uh we would be uh um we would be like well on our way to

00:41:49.360 prosperity by now it's it's not that hard it's just that the government is in the way

00:41:53.860 and uh you know we're gonna repeal all the anti-pipeline and anti-oil tanker

00:41:58.780 uh bills and uh you know drill baby drill get everything going out there um the big one for

00:42:05.400 us out east um that uh you know i was the only guy on stage taking a different position than

00:42:11.160 everybody else i kept pointing that out uh during the debate was uh um we were going to repeal um

00:42:17.400 equalization because nova scotia over here we're sitting on uranium and shale and offshore oil and

00:42:24.260 gas and uh we can't touch any of it because they're so brutally oppressive oh hang on hang

00:42:30.660 on hang on before we do that like uranium didn't they just repeal that 40-year ban like three or

00:42:35.340 four months ago yeah they did yeah i think it was april now some people seem to think that the

00:42:40.400 uranium uh the lifting of the uranium ban has everything to do with this woods band i don't

00:42:47.220 see how that correlates i don't either because they would be doing the opposite like they would

00:42:51.660 keep the ban in place and then they would sneak around but they just lifted the ban so it's like

00:42:56.180 it's legal they can do it right right all right please carry on carry on what were you saying

00:43:01.300 you would get rid of equalization first thing yeah um so uh so we could get people working out

00:43:06.340 here. I mean, we have journeymen around here, you know, like they legit journey all over the

00:43:11.720 country. And that leads to a lot of problems on the home front, too, you know, like family issues

00:43:16.160 and alcoholism and drug issues and things like that. So I think they'd be way better off if we

00:43:21.200 were allowed to work in Nova Scotia. So let's get rid of equalization because it's a welfare trap

00:43:25.160 for the province. You know, if if if they work, if they do their jobs and facilitate our prosperity,

00:43:31.560 then uh their tax base goes up and that means their equalization payments go down um and you

00:43:37.880 know when it's equalization they can get away with putting it all into halifax whereas you know

00:43:44.100 even if even if they hoard the wealth like they are now in in halifax uh on the tax base we would

00:43:53.980 still be a hell of a lot better off and you know it wouldn't be the hunger games out here in uh in

00:43:57.940 Cape Breton because we would have great jobs and, you know, business would be booming.

00:44:06.520 So, so there's, and also, of course, there's a gender ideology, you know, the, the ban,

00:44:13.200 the ban, you know, the gender reassignment for minors. I think personally, I think platforms

00:44:20.640 is 18, but I personally think it should be more like 25. And, and it's not just, you know,

00:44:26.300 anecdotal or based on the brain development like uh by their own data you know um most uh most

00:44:33.380 people desist their gender dysphoria desists uh what is this like um i used to know this

00:44:39.340 i used to have this at my fingertips but i think it's like 88 by age 23 and 93 by age 25 so um so

00:44:47.960 they're going at them way too early obviously uh it's the sickest thing to ever happen in canada

00:44:52.720 yeah yeah um is it a social contagion the gender ideology or is it actually legitimate and i i

00:45:04.180 liken it to remember in the 1990s and i i know this happens today still but you don't hear as

00:45:10.380 much about it as we used to the bulimia thing that was going on with all the teenage girls

00:45:14.220 back in the 1990s it seemed like every second girl had an eating disorder and now it seems the 0.83

00:45:20.360 same with this gender dysphoria like are they just trying to do it to be one of the cool kids 0.82

00:45:25.180 well yeah all the kids all the kids who used to be goth in the 90s are trans now 0.84

00:45:30.580 um it is absolutely a social contagion and it's also a natural constituent of the fourth turning 0.93

00:45:37.500 that's when gender roles are at their narrowest they start off their widest at the beginning of 0.92

00:45:41.220 the saculum and the first turning that was the gi generation they had traditional gender roles you 0.88

00:45:46.840 know breadwinner and housewife um and then uh they got more narrow with the guys growing their 0.99

00:45:52.180 hair out and the uh the hippie boomer generation and then my generation you know we got our ear

00:45:57.500 pierced when we were guys and um and now and now we have this um so but these were all things that

00:46:05.920 you talk about these are all things that you know like the ear pierce would heal over after a few 0.94

00:46:11.060 years of not wearing an earring right but these days you're getting you're getting your boobs 0.80

00:46:16.500 lopped off these days or you're junk right and we can't have that and you couldn't even get a 0.99

00:46:21.380 tattoo until you were 18 for crying out loud they're cutting the breasts off of 13 year olds 0.99

00:46:25.900 yeah um it it's the sickest thing to ever happen in canada and people are getting rich off it like 0.84

00:46:32.500 lupron stock was up like uh you know 156 or something over uh over a year after uh you know

00:46:40.780 they brought in, uh, uh, like a bill C-16, it correlates with that. I'm not saying, um, that

00:46:46.400 it's not, but it, these laws, these kinds of, uh, laws definitely open up the market for this stuff

00:46:53.940 at the very least. And it's not like pharmaceutical companies don't have lobbies. So, uh, I wouldn't

00:46:58.960 mind looking into that, uh, find out what's really going on here, who got rich, um, and, uh, and what

00:47:06.760 happen behind the scenes very much like uh you know the so-called quack scenes um it's a it's

00:47:13.280 a gene therapy so clearly um and it's like i knew it uh they admitted it that's what they said it

00:47:20.240 was that's what it said in their insert their rollout right there it was the gene therapy they

00:47:24.760 said it themselves it's not our words it's theirs well i mean i never got jabbed so i didn't see the

00:47:30.140 insert i guess but holy smokes it's yeah it's insane it's insane i can't believe what's happened

00:47:37.420 so what about climate change let's let's come back to that because i think this will lead us

00:47:41.480 right back to uh the beginning of the of the interview where we talk about the uh the woods

00:47:47.480 band that's an extremely powerful it's not just a lobby it's it's the green new deal in play

00:47:57.220 trillions of dollars and when i say trillions i'm not even kidding i mean there's so many people

00:48:02.520 getting insanely rich off this how on earth could you ever like again there's a ppc government in

00:48:09.160 power how on earth could you ever stop that well it's easy like we would free canada i mean uh

00:48:18.020 you know i i guess easy is probably too strong a word but um yeah i mean uh friedrich hayek

00:48:24.440 said that what we mean when we say a free society

00:48:29.280 is that it is free of coercion.

00:48:31.200 And the only reason these guys are making money

00:48:32.820 is because they got government in their pocket

00:48:35.060 and they're using government to coerce the population

00:48:37.940 into buying their products.

00:48:40.500 And, you know, China's got their fingerprints all over this. 0.56

00:48:43.900 And like I mentioned before,

00:48:45.880 there are 60 to 80% of the audit boards at the UN

00:48:49.240 across the board.

00:48:51.200 The IPCC, the International Panel on Climate Change,

00:48:54.100 is part of the UN, which is a democracy of dictators. And they're in no position to tell

00:49:01.980 us how to live. This is absurd to begin with. And their audit boards insist on a climate model

00:49:10.560 that assumes constant solar output irradiation. But the fact of the matter is we know that solar

00:49:20.200 output varies um so there are like 26 other models from which they could choose with a variable solar

00:49:27.020 output that can and do uh predict the changes to our climate that we actually observe uh just based

00:49:34.400 on you know uh most you got to incorporate the astrophysics astrophysics right well you're

00:49:39.580 talking about the natural climate change as opposed to this man-made climate catastrophe

00:49:44.440 that they made up anthropogenic you know what i did at the uh the debate it went around the whole

00:49:49.940 stage it's so obvious that it's a cult i'm like how can you not see yourselves but it went from

00:49:54.360 every candidate there were seven on the stage and uh every one of them uh when when it was climate

00:49:59.440 change the first thing out of their mouths climate change is real and i was just like npc holy smoke

00:50:06.980 and it came around to me i think i was the last one it came around to me and i went climate change

00:50:12.040 is real anthropogenic climate change not so much as it had been made um and uh and then yeah i

00:50:19.320 explained all the what was the reaction when you said that i think did you get booed no no it was

00:50:25.720 people didn't know what you were talking about because they're they're so clued out or so

00:50:28.820 brainwashed maybe even i very stepped off the stage and i was just kind of hanging around

00:50:32.980 in uh the uh i guess what is center 200 a stadium i guess um and uh you know i was just kind of

00:50:40.180 center on the floor and people would come by. People were nice. And some people were just kind

00:50:43.500 of looking at me like, who the heck is this guy? But no, they were nice enough. And the debate was

00:50:48.220 well. Of course, it was kind of rigged because they distribute the potential topics for debate

00:50:56.180 beforehand, which is normal. I expect that. But every single one of them was just a left-wing

00:51:02.160 talking point. So they were trying to, CBC was trying to trap me in the left-wing paradigm. But

00:51:08.580 But man, I broke through on a few points and I actually got them to do a whole round of debate on immigration.

00:51:15.240 And of course, that was not on the potential topics that were distributed.

00:51:19.120 But they actually they were like, OK, we're going to have to talk about this now because this guy won't shut up.

00:51:25.900 So it's interesting that you got that on to the menu for that debate.

00:51:30.040 That's great because it needs to be discussed in this country.

00:51:33.400 what i'm hearing is that the oligarchs are not going to allow the politicians to change these

00:51:40.760 migration i mean we've got that what 2018 u.n migration pact or not they like this it's good

00:51:46.880 for their wallets right yeah yeah but it needs to stop i mean you you can't go to a tim hortons

00:51:52.780 these days and feel like you're in canada any longer come to think of it it's difficult to

00:51:58.640 go anywhere in this country and feel like you're in the canada that we grew up in absolutely 0.77

00:52:02.820 um yeah and uh mass immigration like i'd work out we're calling for a moratorium on immigration so

00:52:10.200 you know zero immigration until we get this mess cleaned up and the kids can buy houses again um

00:52:15.800 so um and uh you know managed immigration like it was good for a while and i think that there's a

00:52:23.340 distinction to be made between you know where there were profiling people who came here under

00:52:27.860 managed immigration or mass immigration because they brought in like what was it like 85 000

00:52:33.180 criminals from india it was something insane like that like these people have actually been to jail

00:52:38.120 and somehow they're getting in through our immigration system yeah that explains a lot

00:52:42.900 i can't remember the actual number but yeah there's a lot of them and some of them they say

00:52:47.800 are like what do they say there's 20 000 to 500 000 somewhere between those two numbers of illegal

00:52:55.420 migrants in this country they don't know exactly how many because they slipped through the border

00:53:00.840 in the dark of night and they don't know where they are and they're expecting them to leave the 0.97

00:53:07.780 country of their own free will like they're on the buddy system or something the visas are expiring 0.70

00:53:13.800 like what is it five million expiring this year that's insane yeah these people are insane and 0.78

00:53:18.700 the uh the u.n compact on migration i i point to the chinese all the time we're talking about

00:53:23.780 the UN, because they do say in a book that was published in 1999, it's called Unrestricted

00:53:30.100 Warfare, and it's on Amazon. It's based on leaked Chinese military documents. And they sketch out

00:53:37.520 the whole plan to take down the United States in the West. And it's, you know, every motherless 0.97

00:53:44.040 commie-grishy underhanded tactic in the book. And one of them now, this is my term, but this 0.67

00:53:50.240 what i take from the book is is um weaponized migration and uh you know this this it's all

00:53:56.960 they they reference the art of war from sun tzu in the fifth century bc uh the supreme art of war

00:54:02.400 is to subdue the enemy without any fighting um so uh you know that that's that's the agenda it's

00:54:08.160 state collapse um and yeah they're overwhelming us with all the wrong kinds of people uh terrorists

00:54:15.200 and organized crime and were completely infiltrated with a united front which is the overseas arm of

00:54:22.400 the chinese communist party and they basically own pei at this point nobody ever talks about that but

00:54:27.780 i don't think pei is coming back um and are we in the cloward pivot pivot strategy right now is

00:54:33.900 that what they're putting down on us uh it's i would say it's basically the same idea um probably

00:54:40.900 arrived at you know independently um uh they don't call it the clover pivot i think clover

00:54:47.200 pivot came out in the 60s and unrestricted warfare came out in the 90s so it's it's possible there's

00:54:52.060 some crossover there but i'm kind of a hybrid between the two have they mentioned jeff anything

00:54:57.280 to do with climate change with with this uh woods ban in the last few days yes i haven't heard it i

00:55:04.980 thought they're intentionally staying away from the climate change narrative here because they

00:55:10.880 don't want people to think that they're tying the two together they're being really sneaky about it

00:55:14.900 but you say they have have they been hammering it out there i i mean i maybe maybe i'm just uh

00:55:22.380 assuming they are well no no it's it's just that i mean you locally you're going to hear a lot more

00:55:28.000 about this stuff than we are in the rest of the country right like national news stories

00:55:32.440 tend not to be as detailed as local news stories i haven't left the house since i got my ticket so

00:55:37.740 i totally spaced on that i lost it but that's all right how many interviews have you done in

00:55:54.180 the last three days like a dozen oh i have no idea no it's been non-stop and uh you know i kind

00:56:00.360 of got to be sneaky about getting some food um stuff like that but look i i think it's important

00:56:05.940 Um, obviously I thought it was important enough to, uh, to go, uh, and get a $28,000 fine.

00:56:13.840 Um, and, uh, this is also part of the strategy.

00:56:18.240 I think the public awareness is important because that judge should feel like he's being

00:56:22.720 scrutinized while he's rendering that decision.

00:56:24.860 We've gotten a lot of bad precedent, especially, you know, rotten decisions from the lower

00:56:29.620 courts um and uh um so so i think that uh that yeah i mean it's appropriate i think uh you know

00:56:38.400 it's not going to be enough to go stand in a courtroom again and get dismissed out of hand

00:56:43.460 like i was the last time let me ask you this and this is not anything that i'm trying to promote

00:56:50.560 or encourage i want you guys watching to understand that right now but would it be

00:56:58.840 really cool to get i don't know maybe two three four thousand people together

00:57:04.300 in nova scotia at a muster point and just go into the woods yeah it would be fabulous um

00:57:13.940 am i going to organize it probably no no no no no i would never suggest that but wouldn't that

00:57:21.540 be something i mean what do you think they would do that's a great question uh and it's a great

00:57:28.880 idea uh you know and if somebody wants to take that on i'd be happy to throw my support behind

00:57:36.120 it um but uh right now i got enough on my plate no i get it i get it and i'm not suggesting that

00:57:44.920 you should because you've done you've done your fair share and then some my friend i mean you've

00:57:49.500 done a lot and we're appreciative uh for that but let's just say that somebody decided you know

00:57:55.120 i think i want to go for a walk in the woods with 5 000 of my closest friends in nova scotia what do

00:58:02.060 you think the response might be from the government and from the media uh that's a

00:58:09.980 great question you know it'd be really hard to uh call like a thousand people going into the

00:58:16.380 woods a bunch of white supremacists or whatever they haven't really called me that but oh they

00:58:23.200 will don't worry about it they will they'll get to that globalists only referred to me as a right

00:58:27.940 wing politician and not as a 20 year veteran of afghanistan and iraq like yeah entirely right

00:58:35.580 and there was no mention of the charter or rights or of course not oh my god look man when do you

00:58:43.560 go to court with this do you even know yet no i just have the deadline of 12 september to have

00:58:50.180 our notice of intent submitted to contest the the ticket um and then once we submit that noi

00:58:57.320 um don't give us a court date to uh have the matter heard okay man i get i know it's late

00:59:03.040 out there i'm gonna let you go you've been doing this for three straight days and uh i really

00:59:08.280 appreciate personally everything that you've done i mean you got some balls of steel man doing this

00:59:13.540 because that's a big number right that's like 28 grand 29 grand almost that's a big number

00:59:20.120 and i would you know i would feel generally in a normal world i would feel absolutely confident

00:59:26.600 going into court saying you guys are in breach of the charter of rights and freedoms i win case

00:59:31.360 closed but like you say with all these ridiculous decisions we've been getting at the lower court

00:59:36.000 level these past few years who knows it's like rolling the dice i wouldn't be surprised if i

00:59:41.300 walked away with like a reduced fine or something like that that's the kind of petty nonsense that 0.58

00:59:46.160 you know they get up to so yeah we'll appeal that probably knowing the jccf guys like they're uh

00:59:53.420 they're pretty solid i have a lot of confidence in them and uh like i said i worked with sorry i

00:59:58.540 worked with them uh and chris flurry for my convoy stuff um and uh yeah i think they're a spectacular

01:00:03.900 organization that canada desperately needs um so i'm happy to be working with those guys again

01:00:10.060 all right jeff thanks a lot man and uh get some sleep we'll talk to you again all right

01:00:13.980 Thanks brother. Have a good night. You too. Bye-bye. There's Jeff Evelyn.

01:00:43.980 jeff mentioned to me before we went on tonight that and i think we brought this up in the

01:00:52.980 conversation we had also that the left-wing corporate media had been paying some attention

01:00:58.780 to him in the past few days more than globalist news as he calls them who called him a right-wing

01:01:05.760 politician without mentioning that he was a decorated veteran of the canadian armed forces

01:01:10.800 um but here's a piece and i i threw this up at him before we went on

01:01:16.520 because he'd mentioned the chronicle herald halifax newspaper had interviewed him and so i said you

01:01:24.240 mean this article right here and he went what the hell headline is that pedophiles have a charter

01:01:30.720 right to loiter by playgrounds do nova scotians have one to walk in the woods and he laughed and

01:01:37.860 he went, what? What is that? I said, actually, it's an interesting article. On Friday, Jeff

01:01:45.820 Evely thanked Department of Natural Resources officers for giving him a $28,872.50 fine for

01:01:53.520 going in the woods. He then shook hands with the officers who he'd asked to watch him walk briefly

01:01:59.120 into the forest beside their office on Mountain Road in Coxsey, Cape Breton.

01:02:02.820 our rights and freedoms are the legacy of our fallen soldiers said the 20-year veteran of the

01:02:08.940 canadian armed forces who served in afghanistan and iraq i've witnessed more canadians loaded

01:02:13.800 into a hercules in flag-draped coffins i know what it costs to win these freedoms so far so good

01:02:19.860 right evely intends to argue in court that the province's fire proclamation travel ban enacted

01:02:25.960 august 5th that puts a 25 000 fine plus tax how do you what tax is this exactly it's not a good

01:02:34.680 it's not a service it's a fine and there's a victim surcharge in there also on anyone caught

01:02:43.720 going into the woods on private or public land until october 15th or until conditions improve

01:02:48.860 is a violation of all of our charter rights his legal team is looking at a precedent setting 1994

01:02:55.100 ruling by the Supreme Court of Canada that found a law prohibiting pedophiles from loitering at

01:03:01.020 playgrounds violated their charter rights by presuming malevolent intent. It will fall to

01:03:09.460 the courts to decide whether the ban is a justifiable infringement of those rights,

01:03:13.180 considering the drought's impact on the potential for rapid wildfire spread. And by the way,

01:03:17.420 they did have a fire that was allegedly started by sparks from a splitting rock on the outskirts

01:03:24.540 of Halifax today. Interesting timing, don't you think? Anyway. But that measured talk isn't what's

01:03:33.640 happening online. On social media, it's ugly. Those who oppose the woods ban are characterized

01:03:39.080 as bad people who don't care about their neighbors. Hello, COVID response, remember?

01:03:45.920 Those in favor are characterized as sheep glad to allow government to tramp on their civic freedoms.

01:03:50.520 the bigger question may not be the woods band but whether we're losing our ability to talk to each

01:03:56.600 other civilly about issues of grave significance to our society it's so easy to get caught up in

01:04:02.740 this idea of a common enemy that we should rally around our common adversary said simon sherry a

01:04:08.840 clinical psychologist this issue around the forest could be a great point of debate this could be a

01:04:15.720 dialogue where people raise legitimate points on both sides so they could be reasonably discussed

01:04:20.120 in the public sphere.

01:04:21.340 Well, I would agree with that.

01:04:23.840 Except for one thing. 0.54

01:04:25.920 The government is obviously acting

01:04:28.340 outside the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

01:04:33.860 And this is a bridge too far.

01:04:39.560 But maybe this should have come out

01:04:41.400 when they started making seatbelts necessary

01:04:45.320 and lawful.

01:04:48.080 who are they to tell me that i have to wear a seat belt

01:04:52.420 think about that one i never really did

01:04:58.740 evilly like the rest of us has a right to walk his dog axel in the forest under the canadian

01:05:08.380 charter of rights and freedoms everyone has the right to life liberty and security of the person

01:05:13.220 and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental

01:05:17.460 justice at Section 7 of the Charter. That's the liberty part. But he, like you, doesn't have the

01:05:23.880 liberty to ride a motorcycle without a helmet. Why not? Again, seatbelt. Section 1 of the Charter

01:05:31.240 states our liberties are subject to reasonable limits prescribed by law, as can be demonstrably

01:05:36.900 justified in a free and democratic society. So is it reasonable for them to say to me that you have

01:05:44.500 to wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle, or that you have to wear a seatbelt while

01:05:48.760 riding in a car.

01:05:55.580 To limit our freedoms, the government has to show three things. A compelling objective,

01:05:59.680 such as reducing the risk of wildfires. I don't know how this does that.

01:06:05.680 The infringement on the right is reasonable and proportionate. This is not. And that it's

01:06:11.660 Confringing on the right in as minimal a way as is reasonable.

01:06:15.400 Again, not.

01:06:17.500 In this case, you couldn't get a much more compelling objective than reducing forest fires.

01:06:21.820 Now, this is from Wayne McKay, who's a constitutional scholar at Dalhousie University's School of Law.

01:06:28.400 He says, more compelling objective than reducing forest fires and all the destruction that occurs.

01:06:34.340 So he's acknowledging that human beings, by going into the woods, will cause fires.

01:06:40.300 That's what he's saying here.

01:06:41.660 So the question that remains is, are you doing it in a proportionate way and in the least violating way possible?

01:06:47.500 You see, that's not even a question.

01:06:50.920 Because he's assuming that humans are starting these fires intentionally.

01:06:56.360 And maybe some are.

01:07:01.020 But I think 99.99% of the people that want to go into the woods for a hike just want to go into the woods for a hike.

01:07:08.340 And if there's a fire ban, then we respect that, because we're not stupid.

01:07:17.440 Eveli's argument is that it's not the least violating thing possible.

01:07:23.180 A number of steps could have been taken by the government well before a blanket ban,

01:07:27.240 which would have mitigated the wildfire risk to ensure that the minimal impairment requirements were met, said Eveli.

01:07:33.840 They blew right by it. It's a maximum impairing of my liberties.

01:07:38.340 And there is actually precedent for this with the Randy Hillier case in Ontario.

01:07:44.880 Blanket bans are over the top, is basically what the court ruled there.

01:07:51.100 The particular liberty in question is liberty of movement.

01:07:54.220 The Supreme Court of Canada has ruled on this.

01:07:56.580 The seminal case is Haywood.

01:08:00.080 R. v. Haywood, said Marty Moore, a lead attorney with Calgary's Charter Advocates,

01:08:04.580 which will be providing Eve Lee's offense through the Justice Center.

01:08:07.140 1990 or sorry 89 convicted sex offender robert lauren haywood was warned by police who found

01:08:14.080 him loitering by a vancouver playground with a telephoto lens equipped camera that he could be

01:08:18.820 arrested the next time officers found him there he was arrested for vagrancy under section 179b of

01:08:25.720 the criminal code the police got a warrant for the camera's film and found multiple pictures

01:08:30.480 of children's crotches taken at the playground.

01:08:34.440 But Haywood challenged the arrest and conviction

01:08:37.480 in lower courts, arguing through lawyers

01:08:39.540 that the law prohibiting convicted sexual offenders

01:08:41.820 from loitering around schools and playgrounds

01:08:44.160 was overly broad and an infringement

01:08:46.400 on his Section 7 charter rights.

01:08:49.540 Now, I don't know if I agree with that,

01:08:50.960 considering he was a convicted sexual offender.

01:08:55.920 So he's got a history.

01:08:56.920 the supreme court found in a 5-4 decision the criminal code vagrancy law assumed convicted

01:09:03.860 pedophiles have malevolent intent whether they loiter around schools and playgrounds when they

01:09:08.700 it dismissed the crown's argument the law was a justifiable infringement under section one of

01:09:14.280 the charter to protect children from pedophiles what is the matter with this country it seems

01:09:19.520 like they take everything in the charter and they screw it up and make it the opposite of what it

01:09:25.800 really was intended to do. The law restricts liberty far more than is necessary to achieve

01:09:33.920 its goal. It applies without prior notice to the accused, to too many places, too many people,

01:09:39.760 for an indefinite period with no possibility of review. That's what the decision said. Thereby,

01:09:45.200 the court stated it violated Haywood's Section 7 right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty

01:09:50.880 according to a fair, according to law and a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial

01:09:56.180 tribunal. Moore contends if a pedophile by a playground with a telephoto lens has a charter

01:10:03.640 right to be presumed to have no malevolent intent, a veteran should get the same presumption when

01:10:09.400 they go for a walk in the forest. Anybody should, as long as they're not a convicted arsonist, a

01:10:15.160 firebug. It's like saying that because there are people who drink and drive, we're going to ban

01:10:21.480 all people from driving, said Moore. It's not a logic consistent with the Canadian conception of

01:10:27.400 the rule of law. It's more the broad brush of totalitarian government. McKay doesn't share

01:10:31.860 Moore's perspective. Cautioning that he can't prejudge the courts, McKay said, well, it's very

01:10:37.780 broad. The damage that might occur from wildfire if they don't do it that way is very serious.

01:10:42.300 again what are the chances of that prove to me that the chances are significant that a fire

01:10:50.980 will start because somebody goes for a hike in the woods that's the point here and the fact that

01:10:58.800 our freedoms are being impinged upon again but we can't go on the basis we can't just say well

01:11:06.340 if i go into the forest the fire is going to start you can't say that it's like saying if

01:11:11.740 you didn't get the vaccine, then you're a danger to everybody, and you're going to die from COVID.

01:11:17.920 What? How can you say that? There's no proof of that. There never was.

01:11:24.920 There still isn't. There never will be.

01:11:31.060 You would think that would be an unwinnable argument, but with the way our courts have

01:11:35.340 been going these past few years, who knows? He noted the courts don't require perfection

01:11:40.460 from government in the heat of an actual emergency and that a strong argument could be made the more

01:11:45.200 nuanced restrictions of woods travel might be hard to educate the public on and to enforce

01:11:50.460 a lower fine meanwhile might be ineffective now there was a meme flying around today on social

01:11:59.640 media about all of the different fines for different things in nova scotia and i think

01:12:04.400 The highest one I saw was $5,000.

01:12:08.820 This one is $25,000 with a victim fee and a surcharge

01:12:12.180 for a total of $28,757.50.

01:12:17.560 Whatever.

01:12:20.840 Neither New Brunswick nor Newfoundland and Labrador,

01:12:23.200 both of which are contending with large out-of-control wildfires,

01:12:26.100 have yet gone as far as Nova Scotia, which is not.

01:12:29.720 new brunswick has closed crown land to forestry operations and people traveling through it no

01:12:37.000 fines have been announced for violating this closure which doesn't apply to but is encouraged

01:12:41.340 on private land both those provinces have instead placed significant fines on starting

01:12:46.380 fires outside in violation of burning restrictions that's reasonable

01:12:49.760 guess what PEI and not PEI uh New Brunswick and Nova Scotia not Brunswick

01:12:59.840 Newfoundland and Labrador they both have liberal governments I believe I know New Brunswick does

01:13:05.840 anyway I wish Jeff well this guy has done a lot for us and he's doing more

01:13:16.840 and i hope he wins this thing and if you want to make a donation to help the justice center

01:13:22.760 for constitutional freedoms argue this case go ahead to their website jccf.ca and do what you

01:13:30.780 can the extension is coming up in just a second for the all-access night hawks on shadow davis.com

01:13:37.440 guys i was sent a video last night by a friend of mine

01:13:42.940 and i watched part of it before i fell asleep and i found it so compelling that i

01:13:49.580 watched it again today and then again this afternoon and i don't normally do this on

01:13:59.100 the extension but i'm going to put a video on that's pretty accessible for most of us usually

01:14:03.960 the material we get on the extension is stuff that i have dug up that goes back in some cases

01:14:09.920 years it's very difficult to find that i have to get special permissions for in some cases

01:14:15.980 um and that's what makes that extra content special

01:14:23.180 tonight we're going to play for you something extremely alarming that i found alarming

01:14:30.060 anyway and you might also that has to do with uh bio digital convergence

01:14:36.380 and that that's the ultimate goal everything else is simply a distraction to keep us focused

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01:15:09.880 He's the leader of the United Party of Canada.

01:15:14.020 Grant and I had an amazing conversation yesterday.

01:15:16.920 He's running for that empty seat in the by-election in Battle River Crowfoot versus, excuse me,

01:15:24.060 versus Pierre Polyev and all those 208 other candidates or however many there are.

01:15:29.900 And he's going to go deep with us tomorrow night, Grant is.

01:15:32.940 So I look forward to that conversation.

01:15:35.300 So I'll check you guys out tomorrow night at 8 o'clock.

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The Shadoe Davis Show - August 13, 2025

Aug. 12th⧸2025- W⧸ Forces Vet Jeff Evely..Ticketed over 28K for Going into ＂The Woods＂ in NS

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