00:06:52.200We need some change, real change in this country, and quite possibly one of the men who can give it to us is going to join us on the show tonight, Grant Abraham of the United Party of Canada, will be with us in 30 seconds.
00:07:22.200hello grant welcome to the show thanks for joining tonight i know you're
00:07:40.200busy these past couple of weeks battle river crowfoot it is a mouthful to say
00:08:04.780But there's a lot at stake in this discussion in Battle River,
00:08:09.540this election in Battle River Crowfoot.
00:08:11.220So the two Canadas are up to play for, and what's really going on, I think this will be a theme as we talk tonight, Shadow, what's actually boiling in the pot beneath everything that's going on that the nation's not seeing and not discussing.
00:08:27.720Can you talk about that stuff, some of the stuff we talked about on the phone the other day? Are you willing to discuss that?
00:08:32.480I think I think we we have had long enough where we've been muted and controlled by mainstream media.
00:08:39.660We have politicians that have talking points that that are essentially whipped and muzzled.
00:08:45.400And there's things happening in this country that our parents, our grandparents, for sure, would never have tolerated.
00:08:52.120And there's much to talk about. There's much to talk about.
00:08:55.940So let me ask you, in the last election, in the last election campaign, this show was focused on bringing the right together and making sure that Carney and the liberals didn't win.
00:09:07.340That's what I was particularly focused on.
00:09:10.180The corruption in the conservative party and some of their positions, their questionable positions, I ignored those because I wanted Carney out.
00:09:17.680But now, as things have unfolded, what I'm seeing is a quick decline of our country.
00:09:23.560I mean, China just put 100 percent tariffs on our canola and they took effect in the last couple of days.
00:09:30.240That's going to be devastating for farmers, particularly in Western Canada.
00:09:34.420Mark Carney does not have a deal with the United States yet.
00:09:37.660He's talking about a new Bill C-63 that's going to censor Canadians worse than before.
00:09:42.660He's going to bring back the carbon tax in some way, shape or form.
00:11:31.840Then we heard that COVID had provided us with an opportunity for a reset.
00:11:35.680Then we heard about ample evidence of foreign interference that is so severe and sustained
00:11:40.820that it's undermining our democracy and our political institutions.
00:11:44.920And then if you listen to the liberal leadership debate there in March,
00:11:49.420you had Mark Carney and Christy Freeland tripping over themselves, actually,
00:11:53.660to tell us that we're going to be safe and secure inside the new world order,
00:11:57.360albeit outside of the U.S.'s influence because the U.S. had left the new world order.
00:12:02.700And from my part, and I appreciate your strategic communication there before the general election,
00:12:08.760But for my part, my view has always been that what the Liberals are doing intentionally to this country, the Conservatives are enabling by omission.
00:12:18.500And I ask the question often when I speak, when was the last time you heard a Conservative MP or a Prime Minister or Andrew Scheer or Aaron O'Toole or Pierre Polyev say, excuse me, Mr. Trudeau, Mr. Carney, whoever, can you tell us about post-nationalism?
00:12:36.740Why aren't we dealing with foreign interference?0.55
00:12:38.760what is a new world order? Those questions have repeatedly not been asked. And you would have
00:12:43.860thought those would have been the most obvious and alarming things to ask, especially for an
00:12:48.400opposition that wanted to attain power. So we're actually seeing the implementation of a new
00:12:53.940software program being inserted into the country. It's essentially a collectivist agenda that is
00:13:00.700predicated upon Agenda 2030. And that's what's being folded into our nation. And that's why
00:13:06.980Canadians all across this country are saying where is our country gone and so you know that
00:13:12.260is the preamble to the discussion there's a lot of pieces there to get to your question and maybe
00:13:17.600the best way for me to answer this was there was this very gentleman farmer that came to a couple
00:13:24.500of my meetings in this last couple weeks he came to one then he came back to another one and he
00:13:29.080listened and I always have an open mic the the crowd gets to ask questions we don't do pre-screening
00:13:35.020If you want to get into CPR Polyev, you've got to sign up, take all your details and any questions that you want to ask.
00:13:41.340They get pre-screened. And that's the way those events work.
00:13:44.660So I have an open mic. At the end of the second meeting, this farmer came up to me and he said, he said, can I can I just ask you a question?
00:13:51.300I said, yeah, absolutely. He said, look, he says, I think of what I hear you saying is that Justin Trudeau built the foundation and Mark Carney's here to build the wall for a prison.
00:14:01.280Is that what you're saying? And I thought, wow, he said that. He said that in about 27 seconds. And it took me four and a half hours to explain it all to him with all the evidence, you know.
00:14:14.380So, but I think that's where we're actually at in the country. And that's the wisdom of farmers. They see it. It's what's going on.
00:14:20.880I mean, the campaign in Battle River Crowfoot, Pierre Polyev, is running on a platform of basically continuing equalization, continuing the, let's say, the narrative of confederation and talking about releasing and unleashing Alberta energy.
00:14:38.140And there was another clip bouncing around the Internet where I'm asking Pierre Polyev how he's going to unleash Alberta energy and stay inside the UN Paris Climate Accord.
00:14:48.680and uh you know faith family and freedom is not being conserved by the conservative party
00:14:55.100and uh this is this these are the bigger conversations i think that are happening
00:14:59.420at the doorsteps in town halls in battle river crowfoot and people aren't happy and they're
00:15:04.580seeing that their little blue security blanket is not working for them let me ask you this um you
00:15:12.360how many people were in that debate by the way well the long ballot committee is uh is uh
00:15:18.660distraction in the news uh they they're not out there they don't have signs they don't come to
00:15:23.700debates they're just kind of a an administrative annoyance um i my my view is that the long
00:15:30.640ballot committee benefits the person that has the most name recognition in the writing actually
00:15:36.240it distracts the media from actually uh taking the time or justifying the time to delve in
00:15:42.360to the candidates that aren't uh on the long ballot committee and aren't the most identified name
00:15:48.180And so it's about 10 of us. There are several independents. There's an NDP candidate, a liberal candidate, a PPC candidate, a libertarian candidate, Christian Heritage Party candidate.
00:16:01.480As I said, a couple of independents and then myself as well, as well as Mr. Poliev.
00:16:06.200What was your impression of Mr. Poliev when you were in that debate?
00:16:10.620And, you know, I mean, the clips that I've found and I've got that one that you were just talking about, got that from Instagram.
00:16:17.100They focus on his facial expressions at the end, like he doesn't really know what to say.
00:17:06.260And then in the next one that he came to, which was in Drumheller,
00:17:11.080um they're i mean they're very controlled affairs in terms of times and questions it's not truly a
00:17:16.280debate it's actually more of a you know a series of one minute blurbs of people talking but um
00:17:21.580i i felt that he was much more subdued and uh reflective in that in that second meeting and
00:17:29.040uh i just i don't i my my impression is from the conservative party actually they probably
00:17:35.700use logic in their analysis about where to run him in a by-election from seven years ago because
00:17:41.580they've completely missed the context of what's actually going on in Canada geopolitically with
00:17:48.380the Americans, the reality of what Canadians evidenced or saw in the last election with the
00:17:56.120Conservatives deciding to undertake retaliatory tariffs when President Trump asked us simply to
00:18:03.060clean up fentanyl production and human trafficking. He didn't ask us to change the percentage of fat
00:18:10.180in our milk. He was very clear about what those were. And all of a sudden, we had a conservative
00:18:16.080leader telling the nation that we're going to have a retaliatory trade war with the Americans
00:18:21.520that we all know, with a little bit of gray hair out there, that we've never won. And we do the
00:18:26.740best actually sailing off of the goodwill and amazingly favored position we have with the
00:18:31.980Americans. So there are a lot of things that have changed from the kind of the general narrative of
00:18:37.160the blue wall that started somewhere after Saskatchewan and ended before Ontario, north to
00:18:43.000south, that was the conservative wall that protected the West, where people are looking at
00:18:48.440these discussions about what Trump is saying. They're recognizing that there are other threats
00:18:52.380that we're actually hosting. People are seeing that the Americans perceive that we're actually
00:18:58.480a threat to continental security with what we're hosting here ideologically and even
00:19:03.540physically slash kinetically and these are real these are real conversations and this little0.73
00:19:09.480veneer world that Canadians live in and where we only talk about the symptoms on issues
00:19:15.540is wearing thin and people are tuning in to the deeper issues and Alberta's fed up of fed up
00:19:23.360paying there's trillion dollars nearly since 1960 you probably know that it's not quite a million
00:19:29.180dollars yet um we're fed up with ottawa and our lane um you saw in that clip there i was kind of
00:19:36.280spilling off the fact that we learned very clearly uh with the um with the covid and after the convoy
00:19:44.080that there's not a lot of there's not a lot of traction to be found inside our charter of rights
00:19:49.000and freedoms in terms of what we thought that meant and celebrated in the in the mid 80s after
00:19:54.320that came out as proud canadians uh and brian peckford's case not getting to the supreme court
00:20:00.420was a great evidence that they just didn't want to have that conversation yeah there's something
00:20:06.040seriously wrong in this country battle river crowfoot is a is a large riding and i'm sure
00:20:11.620you've been all around it hosting town halls and trying to knock on as many doors as possible what's
00:20:16.080the vibe in that riding I know it's largely rural what's the vibe regarding sovereignty
00:20:21.580um it's a it's a conversation I was talking to someone over the weekend about this and
00:20:30.160I think actually you know I I ran in the federal election the general election uh in April in
00:20:37.000Pinocchio-Didsbury which is a riding just to the west of of here on the other side of Red Deer
00:20:41.720And I think the dial has moved towards independence and thinking about independence.
00:20:48.700The APP here in Alberta has done a great job these last few years in terms of waking up Albertans to what that would mean for them economically or jurisprudentially or even in relation to, you know, being outside of the shadow of Ottawa overreach.
00:21:05.900um so the way i describe alberta right now maybe if they if you took 10 albertans that represented
00:21:13.860the the collective population of alberta um two of them probably aren't tuned in in our care
00:21:20.360if you talk to them generally about ottawa overreach and and the reality of how we feel
00:21:26.320about watching general elections happen and finding out the prime minister before bc's voted
00:21:31.260All those things that we've talked about all our lifetimes, about irritation, the imbalance in the Constitution, the fact that the West is really an economic quality as a subsidizer of central Canada, all of those issues.
00:21:44.820I would say that eight out of 10 Albertans would say, yeah, we're fed up.
00:21:48.740We want to we want to see a smaller government.
00:21:50.880We want to see Ottawa get back in its lane.
00:21:53.460And if and if it takes let's use the word sovereignty, more sovereignty for Alberta, they'd be there.
00:22:00.020If you amp up that conversation and you say, we're not going to become Americans, but we're leaving Canada, we're actually self-determining in international law.
00:22:11.060And this is where I think the language in Alberta is getting more precise.
00:22:15.060It's not just okay to talk about sovereignty anymore.
00:22:18.180If you say sovereignty in Alberta, people say, well, what do you mean?
00:22:21.680Do you mean independence and separation?
00:22:23.500Or do you really mean stay within the monarchy?
00:22:26.580You know, whatever way that they individuate the distinction.
00:22:32.740So I would say eight out of 10 would celebrate the, hey, we need Ottawa, Central Canada out of our lane.
00:22:39.040If you say, look, I think we're going to leave this country and we're going to set up a constitutional republic, we're going to lose the crown.
00:22:47.360There's probably three that would say yes.
00:22:49.980There's a fourth one who is mostly colored towards leaving.
00:22:54.900And the other four are still trying to deal with their fear about Canada pension. What would that look like? You know, we love Canada. We don't want to be Americans. And yet they can't deny the reality of all the things that are being said.
00:23:09.280And I think when you start to I mean, this has been an amazing week in the news, right, because when, you know, talking to Albertans this week, when they're looking at the judgment in B.C., the B.C. Supreme Court judgment, where they're suddenly rolling indigenous land claims onto what we thought was our our Torrens system.
00:23:31.100You know, the title is King, where we've lived in the west of Canada for nearly 100 years, where you couldn't have any equitable interests attached to title.
00:23:43.600Suddenly, you're looking at this ruling saying there can be Indigenous land claims on what you thought was essentially your fee simple ownership on title.
00:23:57.200That falls in line with this agenda within Agenda 2030, within post-nationalism, to disassociate people from ownership, from resiliency, from community, from their culture, values, traditions, laws, and control of borders.
00:24:17.360And this is a big mosh pit of issues that are basically disconnecting people from the Canada that we grew up in and love that's in our hearts.
00:24:28.860But we thought we had a strong foundation.
00:24:31.580And that's what I was referring to in my comment there.
00:24:34.140We thought we had a good foundation, but the basement's rotten.
00:24:37.960And, you know, there's things we could talk about here about the referendum.
00:25:29.160I mean, we don't have any real anything to gain in that at all.
00:25:34.480and we have a lot to lose and we have so far and there there have been other things as well
00:25:39.000they don't really call out the climate uh alarmism as much as they should i i see today that michelle
00:25:45.900remple garner has been piping off and she's been talking about a couple of things uh regarding
00:25:51.440immigration finally and polly have only started talking about this mass immigration in the final
00:25:56.880week of the election campaign whereas before that he was fumbling and stumbling with the whole trump
00:26:02.120issue what is this disconnect is it them trying to reach more canadians is it a strategic thing
00:26:08.000or is it something else altogether are they controlled by the same people as the liberals
00:26:12.220we're dealing with the uniparty yeah i i think it's a uniparty thing i think there's a wizard
00:26:17.000of oz behind the curtain that somewhere that is is controlling the the strings i think for a long
00:26:22.280time they were pushing immigration let's let's be frank about that uh mr poliev was talking about
00:26:28.440and selling the idea of non-stop flights from Mount Restore to Canada.
00:26:34.560And he was completely disconnecting our housing price issues from demand
00:26:41.320that was arising because we have such a massively increased immigration in this country.
00:26:47.460So he's done a complete flip-flop on those issues.
00:26:52.120I suppose I saw the belly of the beast when I was inside the Conservative Party myself,
00:26:56.860and I couldn't rationalize what I held as conservative views,
00:27:02.620what I call Burkean conservatism viewpoints.
00:27:07.260And what I started to see was something else.
00:27:09.760And I spent quite a bit of time in 2023 writing a book on the series of
00:27:14.440evidences that show that the conservative party has actually left the
00:27:18.460conservative people, but they essentially have Stockholm syndrome and they're
00:27:22.860still in love with their abusers because what is it that they're conserving?
00:27:26.500It's not parental. It's not the parental authority. It's not life. It's not the relationship with the US. It's not it's not protecting Canadians in relation to organized crime. I can go on and on and on. And there's this double talk of faith, family and freedom, but they're doing exactly the opposite.
00:27:44.040So I just think my analysis has simply been that the ship called the Conservative Party of Canada has been hijacked by a malevolent force.
00:27:55.900And most of the people are most of those MPs, if they're aware of it, they're locked out of the command center on that ship and the ship's going in a direction.
00:28:05.380And that's where I have a lot of patience and grace for those people, because they they've been probably whipped into positions that they never would have wanted to vote for themselves and know very well that their constituents wouldn't want them to vote for either.
00:28:21.200And, you know, honestly, one of the one of the issues that is waking people up in this Battle River Crowfoot discussion is a social conservative issue.
00:28:31.520There's all the economic stuff that we can talk about, about Alberta separatism and what we could do with 20 billion a year that we didn't send away.
00:28:38.900But one of the biggest issues is this issue of conversion therapy, Bill C-4.
00:28:45.120And that bill was the bill that will criminalize a parent or a grandparent.
00:28:49.560if they try and stop a child transitioning and kind of return their cognitive understanding with their sex at birth.
00:28:59.860And that's what's called conversion therapy.
00:29:01.980And when people realize that that bill was brought in in the 1st of December 2021 by Rob Moore in the House of Commons,
00:29:10.200and it was actually read in not with a yes, no vote for everyone to say yay or nay.
00:29:14.560They brought it in as a unanimous consent motion so that the bill would pass all three readings in one go if no one said nay.
00:29:24.840So if you, you know, I have the clip somewhere and you can hear the Speaker of the House saying, you know, we're going to implement this bill.
00:29:31.540Does anybody say nay? Silence. And he asked again, does anyone say nay? Silence.
00:29:38.360And I think a lot of the, you know, the social conservative, former reformer, reform party people who are hearing this, that they may now be open to prosecution criminally for five years if they get in the way of that transition, that bill was done by the Conservative Party.
00:29:56.700they're they're they're just disgusted and they think how can that happen and they loved their
00:30:02.760former mp mr couric and there's no doubt that that bill happened he did not say nay that day0.90
00:30:08.540uh and they're coming to the realize realization that obviously there are uh muzzles and whips0.88
00:30:15.200inside the conservative party that are are uh silencing and muting what should be good people0.98
00:30:20.760speaking up. So who are these muzzles and whips at the very top of that party? I mean, last time1.00
00:30:27.440you were on, we talked about the men in gray suits, the shadowy figures behind behind the walls. And
00:30:33.480you know, we know the liberals are controlled. We know Mark Carney was placed in the position
00:30:38.380that he's currently in. We know this. I mean, if there's anybody out there by now who thinks that
00:30:43.140governments are governments of any country or any province or state are actually making the
00:30:49.080decisions behind closed doors they're absolutely delusional they're the ones in my opinion who
00:30:53.520should be wearing the tinfoil hats so and again you know this is a it's a very vague question
00:31:01.160because i know you can't actually name names we don't know any of the names maybe steven harper
00:31:05.900you know who could be at the top of this conservative train uh driving it instead of
00:31:11.660pierre polyev but are they different interests running the different parties or is it all the
00:31:17.300same umbrella over top of both and even the NDP for that matter my my view now is that our
00:31:24.340political systems have been hijacked they've been hijacked you know maybe when we talked
00:31:29.900I think the last interview we did was in 2023 shadow and I think I probably wisely said it
00:31:35.440was the men in black or something like that um you know as a metaphor for you know this membrane
00:31:41.740of human evil that is seeking to undermine um the good in humanity and and life liberty and
00:31:48.860happiness if you want to use those terms generically um you know we if you would have
00:31:56.580talked if i would have come on here two or three years ago and talked about the new world order i
00:32:01.700would have been dismissed as being a conspiracy theory i think that's what you're just alluding
00:32:06.500to. Now we have a Liberal Prime Minister actually saying it. Chrystia Freeland is on the Board of
00:32:14.020Directors, is it of the WAF, I think. There's a lot of integration with these agendas. That is
00:32:19.840the marketing agency for the UN agenda. UN Agenda 2030 is an insidious piece of legislation that
00:32:29.420has the ability to sound quite flattering to the ear. But when you actually look at what it means
00:32:36.460to in terms of property, wealth, your ability to own things or transfer things. It's completely
00:32:43.920an assault upon our culture, values and traditions and understanding of a free market society
00:32:51.040that wants small government. And in this case now, it's not just an ideological
00:32:56.820undermining. It's actually a reprogramming that is changing the nation in ways that will be very
00:33:04.800difficult to return to uh probably without a revolution and i don't think we're at a revolution
00:33:10.540stage yet i think there's still scope for intelligent conversation about this but i defy
00:33:15.900people to uh to actually have this conversation about what does a new world order mean we've got
00:33:21.980we've got a a litany of opportunities that haven't haven't been engaged by the conservatives on this
00:33:30.180And why is it that, you know, like, why is it that we're voting for 11 spies that are running as MPs?
00:33:38.120You know, this this whole discussion about foreign interference and the security clearance and why the leader of the loyal opposition of this country wouldn't actually.
00:33:49.720I understand why the liberals aren't telling us completely, because.
00:33:53.720Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:33:54.880i want to come back to this because this is a bomb that you you dropped this one on me the other day
00:33:59.200and i went whoa yeah yeah that's that's heavy because i never did think about that before i
00:34:05.120just took the narrative that well he's not getting his security clearance because because he he
00:34:09.780doesn't need to and if he speaks then he's going to be thrown in jail but you uh gave me a counter
00:34:15.920to that the other day i want to get to that but let's talk about danielle smith we get back to1.00
00:34:20.500the sovereignist thing uh danielle smith seems to take three steps forward for the people who1.00
00:34:27.680truly believe in freedom and common sense and then she takes two ridiculous steps back and does0.97
00:34:33.380something stupid or says she wants a sovereign alberta within a united canada and i i still0.95
00:34:39.940can't quite grip the concept of that and nobody can really figure out and and believe me when i0.99
00:34:46.740say this, that the rest of the country looks at Alberta as the bastion of freedom. At least
00:34:52.780that's what Canada offers as opposed to our neighbors to the south. So when we look at0.63
00:34:57.860Danielle Smith, we see her as the champion of common sense politically in Canada. But the people
00:35:07.180in Alberta see her a little bit differently, don't they? I think that that's true. And I think that
00:35:13.520the duality that you're referencing there is a problem.
00:35:17.620When people ask me about that in meetings,
00:35:20.860I'm supportive of the UCP and the provincial conservatives.
00:35:26.620I think there needs to be cohesion provincially within Alberta
00:42:56.220the committee believes there is ample evidence that Canada is the target
00:43:00.260of significant and sustained foreign interference activities.
00:43:03.760It believes Canada is targeted to exploit the openness of our society
00:43:09.200and penetrate our fundamental institutions to meet their objectives.
00:43:14.320They target ethno-cultural communities, seek to corrupt the political process, manipulate the media, and attempt to curate debate on post-secondary campuses.
00:43:27.320Each of these activities pose a significant risk to the rights and freedoms of Canadians and to the country's sovereignty.0.61
00:43:34.680They are a clear threat to the security of Canada.
00:43:37.780Now, I've never heard kind of a boring kind of chair of a security committee come out and actually say that.
00:43:45.540And when you actually stop and reflect on those words, I don't think they could be much more profound.
00:43:53.760That's from a report that was given to Justin Trudeau on the 30th of August, 2019.
00:44:00.300So why wouldn't we be understanding what these threats are across our nation?0.99
00:44:05.780Why do we have Chinese police stations?0.98
00:44:07.780in our country you know i'll tell you why because the media doesn't want to talk about it and
00:44:12.380nobody wants to be called a conspiracy theorist that's why well okay so i'm crossing the line
00:44:17.280i'm saying this is not normal we should not be accepting this this is not what my grand my
00:44:22.900grandparents went and fought against or my uncles went and fought against tyranny and uh you know
00:44:28.480it's the same tyranny rooted in a different package right now it just doesn't have guns
00:44:32.460so let's talk about pierre polly evidence security clearance let's blow everybody's mind here let's
00:44:39.600do it let's do it so why don't you roll out the main argument for why everyone thinks it's okay
00:44:44.120that he hasn't actually uh uh disclosed this information okay so everybody thinks it's okay
00:44:50.080that he didn't get his security clearances well there's a couple of reasons for it because he's
00:44:55.020already a member of the privy council he's already been a minister he's already got his clearance if
00:44:59.100he needs to get a higher clearance then he could go ahead and do that that's not a problem for him
00:45:04.900what he doesn't want to do is go ahead and sign the non-disclosure which would make him not be
00:45:13.460able to talk about what he sees in the report right with a penalty of jail time so and he wants
00:45:22.440like the whole point is for him to be able to talk about it to the people of this country as
00:45:27.760the leader of his majesty's opposition loyal opposition that's his job right so that's what
00:45:35.980the narrative is right okay and i think that's that's right on i think um i think that's a half
00:45:43.380truth and all of us that have kids know that we have to make sure kids don't tell us half truths
00:45:48.060sometimes they're lies and in this case this is an awkward this is a very awkward conversation
00:45:53.480Because when I brought this up in the debate in Camrose, the crowd erupted because this was just so offensive that someone would challenge this this narrative.
00:46:05.520Right. And but the reality is, is that it's it's it's actually there's another half to this story that makes the first half a misrepresentation, in my view.
00:46:15.540OK, so we've got to remember that, well, there's there's there's all kinds of defenses.
00:46:21.380I am a lawyer, and I'll kind of break this down as quickly and simply as I can.
00:46:25.560There's defenses in common law, and there's also defenses in statute for, you know, breaching a fiduciary duty.
00:46:34.740And that's the kind of duty that Mr. Poliev has to the country as the leader of the loyal opposition, I might add.
00:46:41.500And I, for a long time, I would have processed this discussion simply from a common law perspective and said,
00:46:47.620You know, if you're out walking along with your kid and someone tries to grab your kid and apprehend your child, you completely have the right to defend yourself and to defend your child, including using a proportionate force to do that and including actually hitting, assaulting and battering the person who's trying to kill, you know, take your child.
00:47:09.160and in in law uh the way that the legal minds think is that you know there's an assault on a
00:47:15.260battery and that's a that's chargeable under the criminal code but there's a defense called
00:47:20.300self-defense and is that justified in the case and we can all understand that and and that's part of
00:47:26.380our kind of normal functioning system it's now been embedded in our criminal code but that that
00:47:31.320principle is also true in relation to state secrets and for a long time i simply just talked
00:47:37.140about that self-defense and i'm usually going to use a parallel here called necessity and uh when
00:47:43.040when there are circumstances that arise that actually make it a necessity to disclose information
00:47:48.000that is also the logic of necessity brings a defense now i had a very interesting conversation
00:47:54.140about this lately uh actually in this campaign which is kind of reignited my my legal research
00:48:00.920on this issue and i had a gentleman come up in a meeting who um i'm not going to tell you too much
00:48:06.940about just to protect him. But basically, he provided me with a piece of paper that outlined
00:48:12.800perhaps a hidden or not looked upon piece of legislation back from 1985 that actually guides
00:48:21.720these issues of state secrets. We used to have a Secrecy Act in Canada. In 1985, they changed it to
00:48:28.560the Foreign Interference and Protection of Information Act 1985. And that's a very interesting
00:48:34.480read. And if you read that and kind of interrogate that piece of legislation, you'll see that first
00:48:40.120of all, Mr. Polyev is already under a duty, both a duty to act and to ensure that he doesn't not
00:48:48.560act an omission to the Canadian people. There is a clear ruling, and that's where this 14 years
00:48:57.600comes from, a clear section that if you disclose irresponsibly state secrets, that you will go to
00:49:03.360prison for 14 years. And that's just part of the accountability of having that responsibility of
00:49:11.420information that protect a nation and our people and our sovereignty. But there's also a very clear
00:49:16.840section in that, that if in the event that that person who holds that information reasonably
00:49:22.360believes that it's in the national interest to disclose that information, that they are
00:49:29.240completely exempted from liability under Section 15 of that legislation. So here's the myth here
00:49:35.940in this discussion. And I've asked Mr. Polyev there. I'd love to hear a greater conversation
00:49:41.160from him on it as well. But here's the myth. First of all, the extra non-disclosure agreement
00:49:47.660is, I think, to do with NSACOP. I don't know. It doesn't really matter. The point is, he's already
00:49:53.000under the burden of that piece of legislation which gives him a responsibility and a requirement
00:50:00.340to weigh information and decide if it's in the in the national interest and if if it's not if he
00:50:08.640looks at the information and he discovers that it's not in the national interest then why would
00:50:14.020he not tell us that so we don't need to worry about foreign interference even though a liberal
00:50:18.300mp went on youtube to tell us because maybe people would think he was comping out maybe
00:50:24.200maybe and if he does look at it and think yeah we are riddled with foreign interference that's why
00:50:29.460that's why unexplained things are happening that's why you know there's election interference by
00:50:34.420other nations whatever whatever the issues i don't know what those issues are because i haven't seen
00:50:38.900the information and uh he decided on on a on a reasonable assessment and he if he reasonably
00:50:45.140believed that that information was harmful to our people or to the sovereignty of this nation he has
00:50:51.260a full defense in section 15 to bring the information out albeit if all hell breaks
00:50:57.600loose because the ball the steel bubble gets burst that's containing the truth in this country about
00:51:02.620what's really going on and um yes he may well face a prosecution for 14 years but um the whole thing
00:51:09.780you can look it up online right now it says no person is guilty of an offense under under the
00:51:14.200foregoing session if the person establishes that he or she acted in the public interest
00:51:19.660is there a precedent for that grant yeah well i don't know that i'm sure there probably is i
00:51:25.800haven't done a full research on it but the the gentleman that handed me the pay piece of paper
00:51:29.960uh said look i was involved in national defense and i had to rely on section 15 twice because i
00:51:37.100had to release information that i wasn't authorized to release but it actually preserved a situation
00:51:42.560that was of, you know, life-threatening significance to the safety and security of
00:51:50.300our personnel. And so, you know, that's anecdotal. I know that. You can't go check
00:51:55.400that out. But, you know, that kind of legislation, you know, I'm calling it the Foreign0.71
00:52:00.560Interference Protection of Information Act 1985. You know, that's a newer name. Historically,
00:52:07.720the Commonwealth countries had all called it the State Secrets Act. And that's what governed this.
00:52:12.040And it's well understood because who's going to let the country be jeopardized or forfeited because they're under fear of going to prison?
00:52:19.980I mean, that's, you know, we ask our soldiers to protect our nations, our nation with their lives.
00:52:25.840And if there's information that can be disclosed that would actually mend or maintain the equilibrium of our national sovereignty,
00:52:34.660we expect people to have the fortitude and courage valor may i say even to actually step up and say
00:52:42.700yes i'm you know i may take a bullet here but the nation needs to know so the nation can respond
00:52:48.680so are you you know we're gonna have to surmise here are we surmising that poly have decided to
00:52:56.940not get his security clearance because he may already know the information in there was it a
00:53:02.260political move? Does he have no balls? I don't know. Maybe he's concerned that he can't get0.99
00:53:08.700his security and his extra security clearance. And this is the point here, Shadow. This legislation
00:53:15.580that puts him in the same place that he would have been if he had gotten his extra security
00:53:21.120clearance that we keep hearing about, he's already obligated under this legislation with the same
00:53:26.280penalty the only difference and i and i don't you know this is the thing that i don't know in inside
00:53:32.320the the the conservative world is the security clearance that they're talking about the nsacop
00:53:37.760security clearance um and if if that's the case if you um take that the necessary security clearance
00:53:47.460to get the nsacop information you waive your parliamentary privilege okay okay and the point
00:53:54.640is that what you say then in Parliament can't be held personally against you.
00:53:59.560But in relation to the formation of that ENSECOP,
00:54:03.320ENSECOP stands for the National Security Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians.
00:54:08.560If you sign on to the ENSECOP committee, you waive your parliamentary privilege.
00:54:16.240If they're talking about that as the security clearance,
00:54:19.800David McGinty made it very clear that he would provide the necessary pointers
00:54:23.740on the information to brief any parliamentarians so that they would know.
00:54:28.840He makes the comments on the YouTube video that they would know the degree of the threat
00:54:33.920that would not compromise their parliamentary privilege, but allow them to speak to the issue.
00:54:40.320And the challenge for us as Canadians is that there's really nowhere to hide in this argument
00:54:45.800Because he's already under the burden of the statute, both by duty and by duty to act and not to omit his duty.
00:58:17.700But the brand loyalty might be fading there.
00:58:20.260So we have the People's Party on the one hand.
00:58:22.240We have the United Party, your party on the other hand.
00:58:25.760Is there a difference between the PPC and I don't want to call you guys the UPC because that name is already taken.
00:58:33.060But the United Party of Canada, I mean, where are the differences between the People's Party and your party?
00:58:39.420Well, I think for me, the libertarian philosophy is a hollow one that kind of ends up in kind of, you know, a selfish nihilism that doesn't work in our country.
00:58:52.500It actually it doesn't resonate with the values that actually built the country.
00:58:56.860And I think as people start to examine that and think about it, they they will come to that conclusion or see it.
00:59:02.500um i think the bigger conversation now is that i i have i have crossed the line just as a canadian
00:59:11.320even in looking at the brokenness the rotten basement using that metaphor that i you know
00:59:18.020that was in that clip you know we have a constitutional system that uh has a lot of
00:59:23.980challenges when you start to talk about legitimacy because when you look at the 1867 act and i'll
00:59:30.580Maybe be a bit of a legal nerd here, but when you look at the 1867 Act, there was a clause in it, Section 2, which authorized the passing of sovereignty from one monarch to another as each monarch died.
00:59:47.420In 1893, that section was revoked. And what that essentially meant legally, that after that monarch who at that time that had that oversaw that legislation being passed, whenever Queen Victoria died, the sovereignty of Canada, the control and ownership of Canada actually went into like a holding pattern.
01:00:09.420pattern. Because in law, there's not really vacuums. There's always a pathway for a right
01:00:15.640or an ownership or an interest to go somewhere. And in that case, that revision to our BNA Act,
01:00:22.4001867, what we call our Constitution Act, didn't have a way to pass the ownership of the Dominion
01:00:31.180of Canada. There was, because of the legislation that was passed revoking, and that was 1893,
01:00:37.980I think, or a statute reform act of 1893, all the British legislation.
01:00:44.840So when Queen Victoria died, then what was Canada's status?
01:00:49.920And I think the British held this kind of legal anomaly for about 30 years,
01:00:55.000and then they passed the Statute of Westminster.
01:00:58.540We can talk about Quebec not signing our 1982 constitution, all those things.
01:01:03.660I want to ask you, you know what, you're a historian, man.
01:01:05.980you've got a lot of knowledge here and there's all kinds of interesting
01:01:10.940novel things that have been flying around independent media circles for the
01:01:17.280One of them being the actual constitution of Canada is not in Canada.
01:01:24.900When Pierre Elliott Trudeau went to have that document patriated in the UK
01:01:30.900in 1982, he came home with a photocopy. Is that true?
01:01:35.980That's what I understand true. And this, I think, probably is where I'm trying to go, because if you actually see this kind of this chronology of our history, that's why what that observation that you're making is so important to Canadians at the end of the story, because what happened was there was this anomaly for 30 years where Canada existed without any kind of real control.
01:01:59.240And I'm guessing what happened was the Foreign and Commonwealth Office simply allowed it to live in limbo.
01:02:06.440And then in 1931, there was a statute called the Westminster Act that was passed that essentially severed sovereignty of the British crown over Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, the Republic of Ireland and Canada.
01:02:24.820And what that did was it finally took that sovereignty that didn't pass to the next heir
01:02:30.580because there was no succession clause in the BNA Act anymore because it was revoked.
01:02:35.840And it gave it not to Canada, but it gave the sovereignty to the provinces of Canada that existed in 1931.
01:02:45.620That's an incredibly potent legal position to examine.
01:02:49.880They actually outlined that there needed to be a constitutional convention
01:02:52.740And the people of those provinces needed to decide exactly what they wanted to have as a governance mechanism, and they could decide that.
01:03:03.900And, you know, most of the people in Canada in 1931 were farming or fishing or pulling stumps up.
01:03:10.600They weren't reading legal bills from Westminster in London.
01:03:14.760And that mandate that in 1931 should have made each province decide what kind of province or state they wanted to be, how they wanted to be governed.
01:03:26.500And then came together a couple of years later, once they got that figured out and decided what they wanted the federal infrastructure of the country to look like.
01:03:35.280And instead, what we got was this 1931 legislation basically being appropriated by the powers that be.
01:03:45.320Let's call them the gray suits in 1931.
01:03:48.260And they simply stepped behind the curtain that was the crown.
01:03:52.180And we've had this notion of the crown exist for 94 years.
01:03:58.020Now, sometimes people say, you know, this just isn't historical fluffiness.
01:04:03.260sometimes people say and I've heard lawyers say this that the 1931 Westminster Act is quackery
01:04:10.080and there's not a court in the land that would would necessarily recognize it at least that's
01:04:16.320what I've heard them say I'm not saying that that's right it does create a massive legal issue
01:04:22.200because that is actually the sovereignty that the Canadian Canadian people were given in 1931
01:04:28.600And I say, you know, if we think that that legislation is quackery, we need to talk to the people in the Republic of Ireland because they established a constitutional republic out of the six same pages of paper that our sovereignty was given to our provinces.
01:04:45.920So 1931, the statute of Westminster established that all the provinces of this country were sovereign unto themselves.
01:04:52.340The sovereignty passed to the provinces to be determined by the people in the province through the provincial government structure in terms of what form of government they wanted to have and to maintain.
01:05:10.040And they really should have then decided what the Confederation of Canada looked like.
01:05:14.500So we I don't recall anything in history between 1931 and 1995 that talks about any kind of referendum or anybody in any province talking about what sort of style of government they want.
01:05:29.480Do you recall anything like that? I don't. Is there anything at all?
01:05:43.780And allegedly, this argument that I'm talking about here was actually used to advance the Quebec sovereignty movement.
01:05:52.380I've heard about that. And so what did the 1982 Constitution and Charter of Rights and Freedoms actually do?
01:06:01.240because quebec never did sign the thing no and i think i mean i think technically if i and i'm not a
01:06:09.220um a constitutional convention junkie in terms of reading all the all the stuff but as i understand
01:06:17.120it our constitution is actually not completed finally passing the final reading in terms because
01:06:23.060it hasn't been signed off and ratified so we're kind of this de facto functioning system and um
01:06:29.680It's just ironic that and this takes us into deeper conversations, because when in the last 30 years of our lives, have we ever heard anybody talking about God save the king?
01:06:42.660God save the king, Polyev's acceptance speech, he must have said God save the king six or eight times.
01:06:48.640And all of a sudden we have King Charles rolled out to do a throne speech.
01:06:52.520And where he gave a land acknowledgement, too, which was ridiculous.
01:06:55.140So, you know, if you want to talk about the control functions above the national structure of this nation, you want to talk about New World Order, you want to talk about, you know, Trump's war against the deep state.
01:07:09.000The deep state just isn't some rogue structure within the U.S. government.
01:07:13.720It's an integrated globalist agenda that is interconnected in its strategy.
01:07:20.560And if you heard, I think this is one of the most compelling thing in all those people out there that are the living and the private people that understand the significance of the corporation and sovereign state.
01:07:31.240You heard President Trump say in his inauguration state, I'm going to restore the Republic of the United States, which essentially means he's purging out the corporation of the United States that was established to gather up the tax proceeds to feed the international banking systems.
01:07:49.000there's a there is a this is a this is a much deeper conversation and i don't know
01:07:54.860actually outside of maybe the farthest fringe podcasting if anyone's actually seriously broached
01:08:01.160this conversation i have i have a couple of times there have been there was a guy called doug force
01:08:06.420he's since passed away but i had him on a couple of times and man was he fascinating and and like
01:08:11.600you steeped in knowledge about all of this well we have to i mean shadow i think that it's it's
01:08:19.680not good enough just to say well we don't understand why things are happening the way
01:08:24.040that they are uh we're just going to have to accept them things are happening strategically
01:08:28.440for a reason when when you hear justin trudeau saying we're being going to become the first
01:08:33.100post-nation state or we're being reset or you know why is there so much foreign interference
01:08:38.860with the Chinese, I'll say it, it's the Chinese and perhaps other governments, Iranian perhaps,
01:08:45.540and perhaps even Russian, that are operating in this nation. To what end? The Canadian people
01:08:52.280don't know that. And I'll tell you this, I mean, Stephen Harper passed a piece of legislation
01:08:58.040called the Foreign Interference Protection Act, which allowed foreign governments to use their
01:09:03.440national military infrastructure to defend investment, national investment in Canada.
01:09:10.700And that opened the door up for foreign troops to be in this country. I have a hard time getting
01:09:17.540my mind around how many there are. I can guess. But I'll tell you this unequivocally, the American
01:09:24.920intelligence infrastructure estimates that we have 500,000 of them in Canada. And that's why
01:09:32.420America is looking at Canada and saying you guys really need to sort out your house because you're
01:09:36.780actually becoming a destabilizing threat to continental security and we're not going to
01:09:41.040have it you'll be the 51st state so when we get back to the deep state conversation then you know
01:09:47.760my opinion of that has been that it's you know the bureaucracy pretty much you go through you know
01:09:55.960if you've got a conservative government in there most of the bureaucrats are liberals and they have
01:10:01.380been all their lives and they're going to do a slow walk in inputting the legislation that any
01:10:06.920conservative government will go ahead and legislate right but it's more than that that's how they're
01:10:16.020doing it but who is doing it how many different competing entities are there in this or is it all
01:10:23.420part of the same thing i mean this is where i i try to wrap my head around this grant because it's
01:10:27.860a puzzle and the the picture keeps changing and people keep taking pieces away and adding other
01:10:33.240ones that don't quite fit we got china we've got the israeli thing i don't know what that's all
01:10:39.320about but it seems as though they control quite a bit of policy in the united states anyhow and it
01:10:46.940seems as though not lately with the carny government but polyev once again we're going
01:10:51.880to protect israel with everything we've got right to the end they're our friends and i'm kind of
01:10:58.320wondering why that is again considering that there's been a lot of talk about what's really
01:11:04.680going on in the gaza region in the last couple of years and it's not good yeah i mean what is going
01:11:12.940on here man like and this is i think this is the discussion right shadow because we've we've
01:11:19.240essentially growing up in a post-World War II understanding of kind of a Western order of,
01:11:25.140you know, natural justice, if you will, even between nations. And I think a lot of people
01:11:32.320are having to and are reviewing some of the behaviors that they're seeing in terms of,
01:11:39.080um i think for example i think that people were very surprised at how um the implementation of
01:11:51.220the mrna vaccine was rolled out and uh why certain countries advanced them so so quickly i think
01:11:59.840israel is an example of that they were first they were the first and um you know if you start to if
01:12:07.140you're looking at the evidence and i don't want to go down a vaccine trail i think that there's a
01:12:10.760lot of truth that needs to be told about the vaccine in canada from a canadian perspective
01:12:15.700if we bring it back down to the kitchen table here in this conversation um we were our people
01:12:21.760were completely coerced into that uh taking that vaccine you couldn't eat in a restaurant you
01:12:27.460couldn't travel um and many people had to choose between feeding their their family and paying
01:12:32.420their mortgage and took it. We had a rapid increase in unexplained deaths post-treatment
01:12:45.200or post-vaccination. It's almost a taboo topic in this country. It shouldn't be because if you look
01:12:54.120at the Department of Vital Statistics, right from, you know, kind of from COVID on January of 20,
01:13:00.240say March of 2020 through to March of 2021. There's not really any big deviation in the
01:13:07.780in the in the in the death statistics in terms of the years prior. When you start rolling out
01:13:15.840the vaccine in April, May, June, August of 21, you start to see it spike. That's a statistical
01:13:22.560reality. There's all kinds of narratives to try and explain it. But these aren't just
01:13:26.900These aren't 2% deviations. These are radical deviations. I've looked at some of the insurance corporations in the U.S. that are reporting to their shareholders on the cost of doing business, and they're noting significant increases.
01:13:50.340Like in the insurance industry, there was one black, we'll call it a black event, kind of a shocking event.
01:13:59.040They had like a 2.5% deviation from the normal statistics curves on death in 200 years, and they freaked out about 2%.0.99
01:14:08.380And we've had standard deviations excess in terms of 25% and higher in some strata of age groups.
01:14:20.640I mean, politicians can look at that and say, well, we have an explanation for that.
01:14:26.820I think when the lawyers actually look at that, they're going to see a causal link and they're going to attribute it to something.
01:14:32.260And the more research that's coming out in relation to the disclosure of what the actual contents of what was in that vaccine is going to be shocking.
01:14:41.900And that's why we must never allow the National Citizens' Enquiry report to be lost and why we need to protect some of these doctors that are doing this important research, because this nation can't heal until there's justice for that.
01:14:56.100Well, there's so much that, I mean, you brought that up, and I think that's a great point. But let's talk about what happened recently with this walking in the woods ban, outright ban in Nova Scotia. And they're talking about doing the same thing in Newfoundland and Labrador and New Brunswick. It's ridiculous.
01:15:15.240you can't go into the woods you know you get a 25 000 fine who puts the ideas into these ridiculous0.98
01:15:24.180politicians heads and then they try to justify them saying well it's we don't think you're0.88
01:15:28.100going to start a fire that's ridiculous we think that if you fall and break your leg nobody's going
01:15:33.080to be able to come and get you because they're off fighting a fire someplace else well this is
01:15:38.420This is the climate hysteria, right? And it feeds fear. And, you know, if people have a tendency to want to be codependent on the government and be kept safe all the time, which is kind of the, you know, the ideological shift in this country, then, yeah, you're going to fall into line with all those things.
01:15:58.260And we saw that during COVID. And I guess that's where I was at the beginning of this conversation to say this has been a really easy week for me because Canada is just providing tons of evidence of the deviations of sensible thought that are actually evidencing the undermining of what should be upholding our nation in terms of culture, values and traditions.
01:16:20.220so this this bc supreme court ruling one has now undermined any certainty in terms of title
01:16:25.800there will be financial lawyers working all over the place trying to figure out how to mitigate
01:16:30.800that risk now that a potential uh indigenous claim can undermine their security on a title
01:16:36.540like imagine those conversations in boardrooms across the country right and well you know what
01:16:41.480i've heard too that there there has been some independent media saying look don't worry about
01:16:45.560that ruling in B.C., even though it was the longest court case in Canadian history. It took
01:16:49.200512 days over seven or eight years because the native bands in B.C. don't want your private
01:16:56.220property. They didn't ask for it. So they're not getting that. But what's to stop them from asking
01:17:01.300in the future now that they know they can win? I mean, this is a dangerous precedent that set
01:17:06.280in B.C. last week. Well, our nation prospers because of certainty and understanding of the
01:17:11.700rule of law and whatever the agenda is and you know you're i suppose you're trying to wedge
01:17:17.500in out of us both in this conversation of what is it that's this it's corrosive assaulting
01:17:24.000on our you know understanding of culture values traditions laws and ethics in this country
01:17:30.940because that's why every day grant it's like the law of gravity is no longer functioning
01:17:36.860regularly and it's not and i think that is what we have to look and say is because i mean i guess
01:17:42.680for me that this i really got the red pill on this issue okay i was asking the normal canadian
01:17:47.940questions as a lawyer and saying i don't like the fact that i'm seeing these these shifts in the
01:17:52.320burden of proof so that all of a sudden you know we used to think that it was actually completely
01:17:57.380uh an unchanging principle that you were innocent until proven guilty but now there's these laws
01:18:02.640happening where you're you're guilty unless you can prove you're innocent and these were this is
01:18:06.700pre-2018 stuff um i really got red pilled shadow here here's here's this is maybe a great story if
01:18:14.640i have a minute to tell it yeah i went i went to a uh a by-election meeting in 2020 uh in provincial
01:18:22.180by-election meeting and there was a candidate running and i went to hear what she had to say
01:18:28.040But the lady that actually stood up to introduce her, she was the owner of this cafe in the Fraser Valley, and she stood up and she said, look, she goes, we really need good people in government that are prepared to tell the truth because I'm an elected councillor, and my mayor has assigned me to a committee of people, and we're doing stuff that I'm really not comfortable with in terms of things that are going to change Canada in ways I can't really explain.
01:18:52.320And she kind of did this little preamble. And I went up to her afterwards and I said, look, can you fill me in a little bit on this? And I started asking her some questions. And she told me the name that that there was a there's a not for profit in B.C. that basically is the host facilitator for 52 people coming from across the country, federal, provincial, municipal and indigenous elected and governmental workers.
01:19:16.900And they come together and they are basically working across family, justice, environment, law and education.
01:19:26.620And they essentially their role is to take Agenda 2030 and to massage it in to those four sections, sectors of government across those five headings.
01:19:38.980And that's that's the ideological shift.
01:19:44.980I found out that their annual support was 95% or greater from one donor, the Canadian government, and essentially what that work was, was a shadow committee of Parliament, outside of parliamentary committee, outside of parliamentary scrutiny, and they're sitting doing this work, and I went to her and I said to her, I said, you know, what you told me really freaked me out.
01:20:09.100I said, actually, someday someone's going to look at this work in this country and say that what you're what you're doing there is actually treasonous.
01:20:17.620They're going to look backwards at this and see that this was a this was a Petri dish for the pollinization of a new operating program into our nation.
01:20:27.140That's actually undermining our culture, values, traditions, laws and ethics.
01:20:31.260And you're going to be judged on that.
01:20:33.320And I, you know, and I and so she says, you know what, I think you're right, because I'm not very happy with it at all.
01:20:38.100So I asked her, I said, hey, would you mind smuggling some papers out of that committee for me?
01:20:43.420which she did, and when I read the papers, those papers, I was shocked because they were sitting
01:20:51.600and openly discussing modifying the understanding of words like property and ownership and energy
01:20:59.700and figuring out how to massage in a collectivist agenda into all of our strata of government,
01:21:08.900OK, I was so blown away at the language that was being used that I wrote, I sat down, I wrote a reflection paper to actually break down what their thought was and how distorted it was in relation to what Canada actually is or what we believe it is.
01:21:26.240and um and one of the most shocking things about that those notes that came out of that that
01:21:32.660working committee were that they were actually sitting talking about in their notes like writing
01:21:38.700about it and they're saying what we really need to do is recognize that it you know everyday
01:21:43.360Canadians like you and I or anybody else that we talk to that's upset about where the country's
01:21:47.840going is is that those everyday Canadians have blind spots and we need to figure out how to
01:21:53.520navigate around those blind spots so that it can become palatable for this change of operating
01:21:59.520system to be massaged into our nation okay now um that that was my this committee you're talking
01:22:08.220about called impact canada out of the council oh no no it's not it it was it was it was essentially
01:22:14.680a clandestine committee they weren't allowed to take their their their notes out uh they met once
01:22:20.700a month they did a lot of work and it was uh it was visited by officials from ottawa to ensure
01:22:26.900they were on track uh with with what they were doing and it was all predicated upon agenda 2030
01:22:32.400and that's where we're getting these changes from that's why we're seeing the development of 15
01:22:36.640minute cities um i came across one county in ontario when i was speaking out there and there
01:22:42.240the farmers there are dealing with uh the local county uh board uh trying to figure out the the
01:22:49.320square footage area of their barns, the area of the roof on their barns. And what they're doing
01:22:56.160is once they figure out the value of the area of the square footage on the roof of the barns,
01:23:01.460they're calculating, multiplying that by the annual rainfall. They're figuring out the volume
01:23:06.060of water that's displaced from that roof. And then they're creating a tax or trying to create a tax
01:23:12.060on that displaced water hitting the sewage system in the county. That's agenda 2030 at work. It
01:23:19.080sounds ridiculous but it's coming in you know six of one and a half a dozen of another uh ways in
01:23:24.620this in this nation and i was so shocked at this i mean this is pretty politics for me this is just
01:23:30.760like you know something's something's wrong here uh that is going on in our nation um there's got
01:23:37.460to be an explanation i bumped into this i saw these papers i was just like i cannot believe
01:23:42.960that this is being allowed to happen and so i sent this paper out to a bunch of different people in
01:23:48.440the country. I sent it out to some lawyer friends of mine and said, look, what do you think about
01:23:52.700this? This is what I've seen. I sent it out to basically a pathway that it ended up inside the
01:23:59.920RCMP. I sent it out to some former conservative MPs that I knew. And those two pathways created
01:24:08.860some interest. And I ended up in a conversation with, I don't know, when you're talking to
01:24:13.920plainclothes officers are you talking to the rcmp think so let's say um and that was a very
01:24:19.900interesting conversation and and i met with them with that whistleblower in 2021 i wasn't acting
01:24:25.540for them i'm just trying to be a guide helping at that stage and when we finished that interview
01:24:31.500uh basically the off the record comments in that interview was again spring of 2021 was grant
01:24:38.480if you had come to us with this document and this whistleblower five years ago
01:24:42.700we'd have told you you were crazy so he's talking about 2016 if we come to us in 2016
01:24:47.980we thought you were crazy if you come to us in 2018 2019 we would have freaked out because there's
01:24:54.660so much foreign interference going on in the country that we we didn't know where it was
01:24:58.580coming from and we knew that it had an ideological strategy to it so we would have completely freaked
01:25:05.460out but he said he said where we're at right now in 2021 there's so much foreign interference
01:25:10.380that all we can do is treat this as a philosophical paper and we'll take note of it and we'll take
01:25:15.620note of that not-for-profit and whatever philosophical paper oh that's a quote okay
01:25:20.220they the conversation with the m the two mps that contacted me because it ended up in their hands
01:25:26.800i'm not going to give you their names because i said i wouldn't um but it's indicative of the
01:25:31.860malaise inside the conservative party when i got on the in-camera what i call the private meeting
01:25:37.540you know with them uh online because it was still the high days of covid uh they were all excited
01:25:44.800like they were quite happy and i said guys did you read the paper and they're like yeah
01:25:48.320we absolutely did we're like really glad to read this paper i'm like well why and he said because
01:25:54.300we know there's something going wrong that is kind of unraveling the country but we didn't
01:25:58.600know what was behind it that where all these changes are coming from all at once and i said
01:26:03.760well that isn't that great oh what are you going to do about it and they're like well you know what
01:26:10.040it's just not politically pragmatic for us in the conservative party right now to do anything about
01:26:14.580that and i was like i really fused me out because i was like that's the only reason you're elected
01:26:19.880is to actually protect the country from stuff like this um i would expect you to be out in0.86
01:26:25.400front of parliament rolling around in your ginch until the media shows up to ask you what the hell
01:26:31.960you're doing rolling around your underwear in front of parliament and you say look this is
01:26:36.300what's going on our country's being betrayed ideologically and this and let's you know let's
01:26:40.680follow the money let's follow let's follow the narrative and they just said like we can't touch
01:26:45.600it you know it's it quote it's not politically pragmatic and that is when i started to see
01:26:52.060that even when presented with this stuff there was you know there was a validation of it on
01:26:56.740both those conversations it wasn't like hey we don't believe this no no there was a complete
01:27:01.320validation of it on both fronts one one group was overrun with foreign interference and this0.90
01:27:07.160is the spring of 2021 and the other one had what that that's where i say there was no balls
01:27:12.740cowards it's the same situation now that we're talking about with foreign interference for why
01:27:19.080we're not explaining what these forces are that are actually unraveling our nation0.79
01:27:23.040and in the meantime we've got 400 ostriches who are on the cusp of being killed in edgewood
01:27:28.980british columbia because of a rogue in in my opinion a rogue agency that is answerable to
01:27:34.240nobody the canadian food inspection agency based upon the results of two pcr tests in december
01:27:41.040two they want to kill 400 ostriches out there but that's not the real that's not the real story of
01:27:47.740course not the real story is control of the food supply control of the rural land i mean there's
01:27:53.480not much more rural you can get than edgewood british columbia at least in the southern part
01:27:57.940of our country and also there's uh there's scientific research being done on the on the
01:28:02.560cell structure on the eggs that has profound significance in terms of uh um viral antiviral
01:28:10.220health for treatment of certain diseases and natural antibodies right so that's going to upend
01:28:15.920the the vaccine agenda also you know so how does that work this is and this is the this is the
01:28:22.080conversation uh and actually it's part of what's feeding the death culture in this country
01:28:27.080dude we've been talking about this deep stuff now for the last hour and 25 minutes and the people
01:28:34.780who are watching this are enraptured with this and i think that's great but and i know that people
01:28:42.420have been waking up slowly slowly over the past few years yeah but how do we get them like these
01:28:49.360people who are still sleepwalking through this you know i mean i i had a show uh earlier this
01:28:54.320week with jeff evely he's the guy who got the 28 000 ticket for walking into the woods in nova
01:28:59.380scotia and you know it was a little real and people are still going on there going wow people
01:29:06.720are looking for anything to be upset about these days don't you understand it's tinder dry out here
01:29:11.100people shouldn't be allowed to go it like this breaks my heart every time i see somebody say0.99
01:29:17.340something so stupid like that because they have absolutely like elbows up like we ever had a0.99
01:29:24.800chance against the americans in any way on anything except maybe a hockey game right right so if we1.00
01:29:33.680still have 70 percent of the people in this country asleep at the switch we're doomed how do we wake
01:29:39.680them up is my question so let's just talk about that you know that that whole concept of what
01:29:45.580what we're talking about. I've already mentioned the fact that the Liberals and the Conservatives
01:29:51.500in the general election chose to protect organized crime in this country other than the Canadian
01:29:56.380people and their businesses. That's why we had two government leaders both pushing for
01:30:02.700retaliatory tariffs. And we've got a president in the US now who understands I think very well
01:30:09.260well, what's going on in Canada has probably given up on the leadership in the country.
01:30:15.920And if you look at what he's done in the last two weeks, if you follow any of the U.S. stuff,
01:30:20.860I mean, I think it was just this week, he actually assumed control of the municipal police force
01:30:26.440in D.C. and interlinked the engine, if you will, of the National Guard into that and brought it
01:30:33.700under the White House control structure because they're cleaning stuff up. And if I understand
01:30:38.080things correctly that's happening in other cities across the country in addition to engaging the
01:30:42.780release of special forces into uh central and south america to deal with cartels so there's
01:30:49.700there is something going on here that's that is dealing they all got a bounty on nicholas maduro
01:30:55.100i think too don't they i i don't know i don't know but my point is that there is an agenda that is
01:31:02.600moving toward these entrenched forces. If we want to talk about it as organized crime,
01:31:08.360if we want to talk about it as parasitic foreign interference in our country, or if we want to
01:31:13.540talk about a human membrane of evil that seeks to repress and keep our fellow citizens impoverished
01:31:21.620and, you know, almost walking zombies in terms of talking about symptoms rather than root issues,
01:31:29.180I think that's exactly what Trump's talking about.
01:31:32.360And I think those characteristics make up what it is that we're actually fighting against.
01:31:37.740And we just have the veneer, the apparatus of these agendas housed in our political institutions.
01:31:46.700And we're talking about symptomatic issues all the time.
01:31:51.800Yeah, but we're talking about waking the people up.
01:31:55.520And it always comes back to me that, have you ever seen a video of a cult member trying to be deprogrammed?
01:32:05.300It happened, I watched this thing on Scientology a few years ago, and it was fascinating.
01:32:10.520It was a long process to get this person to start thinking straight again.0.91
01:32:15.760And I see that with the LGBTQ, I see that with, I mean, Carney's spending $14 million to indoctrinate kids into this climate catastrophe in schools across the country.0.86
01:32:25.520That was announced a couple of days ago.0.97
01:43:43.400I mean, I know the time's up here, but, I mean,
01:43:45.280You know, I understand that the Liberal government is developing legislation that will remove the charitable status from Christian churches in this country.
01:43:54.240So all the silent churches that have been out there thinking, hey, we just got to stay in our lane or the war that that inherent war that goes on between pastors and their boards about what actually Christian teaching should be in society versus what the board's risk analysis is for their insurance.
01:44:13.440when it comes to those kinds of conflicts playing out in the church.
01:44:17.200You won't have to worry about that anymore.
01:44:19.040And they're actually in conjunction, if my intel is correct,
01:44:23.680what they're talking about is not only losing the charitable status
01:44:27.260but changing the capital gains rules on church assets.
01:44:32.400So suddenly it's going to be one thing to lose that protection
01:44:35.720of the charitable status, but it's going to be another thing
01:44:38.340if all of a sudden when those churches sell,
01:44:40.080they've got a 30% or 40% capital gains tax.
01:44:43.440Do you want to eradicate the Christian church in Canada and push them underground?1.00